Thank you Philip! So interesting how SE describes theme and his books as a way to attack his own beliefs because I’ve always come away from reading these books with a very sobering view of myself, which is one of the things I love about them. You can’t help but keep it real with yourself... interesting that he was doing that as a tool for himself as well. AP is also offering such great insights as well, and is always so interesting to listen to and the genuine friendship between him and SE shines through and seems to put him at ease, which makes it even more enjoyable. Thank all three of you for this video. Gonna finish, but wanted to let you know that I appreciate this conversation from you!
Thanks, Iskar! As you say, Erikson and A.P. offer some real gems in this discussion. That’s a great insight about how reading Malazan encourages self reflection, and I’ve experienced that too. I hope you enjoy the rest of the chat!
Loved the way Erickson described leaving space in the narrative for Esselemont. Like a Jazz musician leaving space for another to fill in, riff and improvise and pass it back. Its what i enjoy most about the Malazan story right now. Its sooooo much fun. Love it. Bring on The Jhistal, Witness, and Walk in Shadow. Eagerly waiting to hear what gets played next.
Always great to watch these kinds of conversations. Glad to see Father Ochre joining you and AP. The puns were on point :D More concretely: Philip, your handling of the flow of these conversations is amazing. Sometimes we take things for granted, but I want to tell you explicitly that you do a great job in this type of discussions. On a lighter note, an initial attempt at High House Wutube: Elders: - Father Ochre ( Erikson) - Father Verdigris ( Esslemont) Ascendants - Magi 1 ( Prof. F'ireb'all) - Magi 2 ( Dr. Ph'antasy) - Guardian of the Wutube ( Iskar Jarak) - Assassin ( Ruthan Badd) Feel free to add and modify
Thanks so much, Niflrog - I really appreciate it! I’m the flow man, and A.P. is the razzle-dazzle guy! 😁 There’s definitely room for more members of The House of WuTube, such as the Knight (Niflrog)!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thankfully it is! At times when I have bad anxiety and need an escape the books and now the videos on youtube have been a great source for me of something to throw my mind into that feels rewarding and healthy. Something good to obsess over lol
I love hearing Erikson talk about his books! You can tell he really listens to what people say about his books, and enjoys hearing the different ways people interpret what he's written. He may say what he intended to convey, but I never feel like he says a reader is wrong if they didn't quite take something the way he meant it. He just seems so respectful when he gives his explanations and intentions!
This was wonderful! I loved your question regarding the writing process for implementing themes, and I loved Erikson's response! I can already see examples in the first five books of how characters are in conflict with certain themes. You all addressed how certain themes that become prominent in a book can be identified in previous books. That's definitely been my experience for each book I've read! I'll notice a theme but then see its connection to previous books. It's a been a while now since I read Gardens of the Moon, but one theme idea that came to mind for me during this discussion was alliance. There were so many strange alliances in that book, shifting allies, and begrudging allies. I thought of the scene you mentioned between Lorn and Tattersail as one example. That might be a stretch, but that came to mind. Thanks for this wonderful discussion!
Thank you, Johanna! Alliance is definitely an important theme for Gardens of the Moon and the series as a whole, so great insight! I also loved Erikson’s response to the question about incorporating themes. It was a joy to talk with him and A.P.
Wow this was such a treat and a fantastic experiance to watch. Seeing Mr Erikson back was just so brilliant and as always watching him discuss his writing is a phenominal treat, as is having both you and A.P adding your own insights and contributions to the conversation. I cant wait to see the three of you discuss the entire series together when your reread is done. I think for that one you may need to break it into two parts lol. Such a great video for weekend, honestly this has made my weekend.
Thank you, Jack! I’ve started thinking about the big finale video already too, and I hope Erikson will join us. It also occurred to me that two parts might be wise! 😂
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I enjoy it anytime D'Octor Ph'Antasii & P'Rofessor Fireballs have a chat with Mr Erikson. Always fun and full of insights, I learn so much.
Omg this just made my weekend. Every online Erikson sighting now feels like a victory over bad-faith bludgeoning and that's something I will always show up for.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy also I have seen Malazan on a lot of peoples top 10. It’s definitely on mine. And usually they ones who don’t have it haven’t read it yet
@@darren2880 It’s my number one. I also have seen it on many “best fantasy” lists online. Time Magazine totally dropped the ball with their “Top 100 fantasy” list, however.
I’m so grateful that you all are doing what you are doing with this read along. To have access to the thoughts of professional readers and such free and transparent access to the author is an unparalleled experience. You all have made my favorite fiction series even more enjoyable and meaningful than I could have ever wished. Keep up the good work!
Thank you, Gabriel! Expressions of gratitude like yours in this comment are all I need to keep me going on this channel. It’s a privilege, of course, to talk with people like A.P. Canavan and Steven Erikson. But every interaction, every comment left by a viewer, has been a vital part of this experience for me. Cheers!
A month ago this popped up in my feed, after 10 minutes I closed the video and added to my watch later list, thus began my re-read of the series. Moved onto Bonehunters this week, so I came back to watch this half-way theme recap video, great insights. The second read of this series is such a different experience. Thank you for this upload and the resulting prompt to start the series again
Thank you for the wonderful comment, MrEtown! I’m happy the video spoke to you in that way. On the verge of completing my reread with A.P., I completely agree with you about how impactful the second read is. Every book blows me away. My very best to you as you continue your reread!
I am so addicted to these videos as I'm doing my own series reread, so first of all thanks for what you do! It must feel great to state your opinions on themes of these books and have the author agree with you and build off your analysis to state his own opinions. I'm really enjoying A.P on these videos too and you guys work well together!
Thanks, Blake! The discussions with A.P. have been my favorite part of being on TH-cam, and having the chance to chat with Steven Erikson has been such an amazing honor, not to mention enriching for my experience of his books. I’m so glad the videos are enjoyable for you!
Great discussion! And you savvily walked the line as host/moderator/participant. We're just all so damn lucky that Steve has made himself available to the community like this. So rich and rewarding.
Thank you! I wholeheartedly agree with you about how lucky we are that Steven Erikson has shared his insights with us in such an open and friendly way. Also, I love it when people use the word "savvily" in connection with anything I do, so thank you for making me smile!
I likewise am learning so much from these conversations...delving into the thematic, and structural points has been so instructive and enjoyable. Cannot thank all three of you enough!
I’m very happy to hear this! The professor in me loves it when learning is happening, and I certainly learned a lot during the discussion. Thank you for the positive feedback!
Did this video break the length record for Malazan videos? Loved the puntastic start and then the approach to writing themes within the books! This is perfect weekend listening material for me! 🥰
@@rupertcrump1312 haha, that was a mini heart attack :D but yeah, listening to some of my favourite people while struggling to make cake helps a lot with morale!
Fantastic conversation again. I feel privileged being able to read the series almost alongside you and listen to your enriching discussions. Keep up the good work. Love from Hungary
Thanks so much for the kind words, and I’m happy that our discussions have been enriching for you. They have been crucial in deepening my appreciation and love for Malazan as well. Happy reading to you!
Another day, another Malazan video, and another round of P'Rofessor Fireballs puns. Thank you Philip for your opening question about Erikson's technique. It's always facinating to get insights into a fellow creative's process.
I loved Erikson's answer to that question. I keep picturing an old, worn-down barrow in the landscape, covered with wind-blown grass. Beneath the surface lies the theme.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy yes, that was a great way of explaining it. What resonated for me was also that what ever he tells us is his way of doing it and everybody else will have to figure out their own process. I think that's so true. If I would explain how I paint it would only be of limited use to others. Also explanations are nice but to learn a craft you have to practice it.
@@brush2canvas849 So true! Everyone works out their own approach to creative endeavors. Somehow, I enjoy learning about how the creative process unfolds for others too. There might be some reflection of myself even as I appreciate the differences.
My favourite thing about the interviews with Steven Erickson... He’s perfectly happy to discuss themes from the Malazan series, but he’s already done the hard work writing them and letting his work speak for itself speaks enormously about the humble merit he gives himself.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Yes, it has felt like a somewhat feverish dream. I had some time on the plane recently, which helped. Basically all of my spare time over the past month has been poured into these novels. And we Australians have just entered full lockdown, so now I guess I will have even more time to dedicate to them. See you on the other end of The Bonehunters!
Great discussion! Just starting on Bonehunters (first time Malazan reader) so this was a good discussion to propel me into the second half. Thank you to Philip, A.P. and Steven!
Wonderful discussion. Was wondering if you could possibly make a video on reading tips, such as how to read quicker coupled with increasing focus and comprehension. Thank you, and be well!
Thank you! I consider myself a slow reader because I’m always pausing to admire sentences. I know only one genuine tip for reading faster while increasing comprehension, and that is to read more and more until you get better. Pretty lame advice, I know. But I’m suspicious of people who claim to teach speed reading. Reading fast decreases comprehension and makes you miss details. I could be wrong, but that’s my take without having done any comprehensive research on the topic. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy My whole perception for reading changed, as I used to see it as a chore in school being forced to read books but as I get older and am discovering my interests I am finding reading to be a great hobby. I will continue to read, and hope to improve the skill. I just finished "Interview with the Vampire" by Anne Rice, and am starting Stephen King's "Dead Zone" now. You have a real gift for eloquently describing these stories, and I appreciate the work you put into these videos. Cheers!
I'm late to the party but we've finally finished watching this. Thank you! :) The puns were fantastic, and so was all the conversation. I'm very grateful for every single discussion you guys record! It'd be nice if you guys got SE to join the Crack'd Pot Trail discussion :P
Oh, that’s a wonderful idea, Rox! Then there would be three of us giving poor A.P. a hard time. 😁 I’m glad you enjoyed this discussion - even the puns! It was an incredibly enjoyable experience for me, and I’m happy if any other Erikson fans take pleasure from it. Cheers!
Hello Dr. Chase! No fire puns from me, this video has reached its quota :) Just finished Midnight Tides yesterday so here I am. After reading through the comments I don't know how much I can add beyond everyone's already effusive praise but here goes. Philip -- perfect host/moderator (plus, bonus insight!) AP -- absolutely next level profound analysis Steve -- the Holy Father (joking but... lol) I just want to say how enjoyable these are. The insights into what you and AP think/feel, alongside the inner workings of Erikson's weird and crazy brain... it adds so much to my first-time reading experience. I can't even imagine reading these books with no extracurricular material, and I admire anyone who did. But I don't need to imagine it because I have you guys, plus so many other content creators. Last thought is I just keep coming back to Erikson and the gift he gives us with his time and transparency. It is a truly wondrous thing. I ALMOST enjoy listening to him talk (about... ANYthing) as much as I enjoy reading his books. Each book I finish, I rush to listen to the interview he does with the Ten Very Big Books podcast, videos like this, interviews wherever I can find them that won't spoil the later books. And it all just increases my love for the series, and makes me wonder what we did to deserve a gift like Erikson himself. Anyway please keep up the good work!! I'll be watching AP's Critical Convos from this book tomorrow I think, and then hopefully back here to your channel for more Malazan content as I get further into the series!
Hello, Chris. Your wonderful comments here are a perfect illustration of why we make these videos. Even without any fire puns. 😁 I’m so glad you enjoyed the discussion and took some things from it. Also, I completely agree with everything you wrote about A.P. and Steven Erikson. They are both brilliant and kind, making them pretty fun to hang out with. My very best to you as you continue to read the series!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Aw thanks sir! I'm glad that I can brighten your day a little and reaffirm your work here. See you on another video soon!
"Hark Kaminsod! Witness the Summoning of Eri-Cke-Shon the Co-Creator, by A'ei-Pi the Hibernian APostate of Eri-Cke-Shon the Co-Creator and Philippos of Yaankeey, Oracles of the Malazan Co-Creators!" Thank you to you both, Professor Chase and Doc AP, for a great Midway Discussion! Always fun to get Erikson's own take on the themes and the writing process: Loved the metaphor of themes as a "Hidden enemy"/"Buried Underlying Structure"! As a tangent: I openly admit that one thing I love about (by many loathed) "Phantom Menace", is how the Ancient Ruins and the partial buried statues on Naboo almost without any Dialogue give Naboo both a feeling of a genuine, but Forgotten and Mysterious, Past (akin to Angkor Wat or Stonehenge) and an Atmosphere of Human and Societal Hubris worthy of Shelley's "Ozymandias", making it without any shame my favourite setting in Star Wars. As such, Erikson's masterful use of present but mysterious past in general and archeological features in particular, is one of my favourite features of his writing. Less serious: Since Doc AP has announced the "Death of the Author", does this offically give you both the title of "Literate Necromancers"?
The layers of the past Erikson presents in his books make up one of my favorite features of the series. It’s not just compelling world building - the past is almost a character influencing the present. Aren’t all critics necromancers of a sort, preying upon the corpses of all those dead authors (since the author is, of course, dead)? 😁
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Precisely that Professor: The Past not only makes the Physical Malazan World a Character of it's own and shapes/scars the characters and societies with Nostalgia and Past Trauma, but is a Character on it's very own, well put! I think many writers are good at showing how geography and societies shape individuals (and vice versa), but few manage to show the impact of the evolution of time on geography and societies, and some not even with individuals! Erikson masters them all!
If its possible, can you please forward this message to Steven Erikson Sir, First, I loved the MALAZAN BOOK OF THE FALLEN series and I fell in love with the series since the 1st book and have kind of binged through the entire series in 7 Months. And at the end I was left with the feeling that I wanted more, not of all as many including Fiddler and the gang have earned a well earned rest but Ganoes Paran, he has so much potential and I just wanted to know if there are any plans for a spin off series that revolves around High fist Master of the Deck Ganoes Paran and his army perhaps discovering more of the different elder warrens with a new foe. I and many others would just love to see more of him.
Hello, Suryansh! That's a great suggestion, I think! I'll pass on the message the next time I have a chance to chat with Steven Erikson, though that might not be for a while. I'm happy to hear that you've found Malazan so immersive and awesome!
I was pleasantly surprised you mentioned witnesses wrt the Chain of Dogs ending. That's a great theme that I feel often goes unspoken or unnoticed by the readers and I was planning on pointing it out right before you did. It's also a theme that recurs in the (spoliers for Memories of Ice in replies)
Yes, witnessing is all over the place, both within the books and on a meta level between the reader and books. And that scene you mention is definitely one of the most powerful!
One theme I got from Gardens was the notion of “just following orders”. Very easy to sit in judgement, i.e Lorn being furious with Tattersail, but much harder to act when you’re in that situation, Lorn releasing Raest against her own morality.
Most definitely! The temptation to excuse conformity to wrong actions because we are all cogs in the wheel, denying personal responsibility in the process, is a big Malazan theme. Thanks for the excellent comment!
Starting House of Chains on June 1 with Mike’s Malazan Army so I’ll need to come back after another 2 books. Honestly I can’t imagine a better time to be a new fan of this series. Thanks for all the great content.
Our pleasure, and I wish you much fulfillment in your Malazan read - Mike’s read along is the perfect way for new readers to immerse themselves in the series!
It was a ton of fun for me. We talked a while longer after recording, and I felt like we could’ve chatted for hours and hours more. I hadn’t even realized just how long the recorded discussion was!
I agree with you on most of the things besides the crippled god. I'm halfway through the series. And i think its the opposite way. The crippled god is mentioned constantly. And you see him plotting and pulling strings. He is for me the constant presence that is looming over the story. But the chracters don't know about it. Besides Quick Ben. I loved it that way.
Well it took a while but the quarter dropped (as they say in Dutch) about rejoice. The theme is central, where I had more of an issue with the plot, but the plot is not the point... Interesting as always, thanks for the discussion.
Currently nearing part 4 of Reapers Gale and I’m loving the content. I’ve burnt through this series, it’s made me read 500 pages yesterday. It’s already my new favourite. Thx for all the vids
Chiming in on the last few minutes about plots and themes of the series. There plots that go through the books and varying themes, but the overall plot remains hidden for some time. It is this ambiguity that can both be enjoyable and frustrating. Would love to read some of the theories banded about when the books were first published. And I think verisimilitude is the P'rofessors ochre.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy And if you Google the word.the example given is 'the detail gives the novel some verisimilitude.' But it is just one of those words that will jump out to me now.
Super interesting comments of A.P on walking in the other shoes. Amazes me how difficult is sometimes. It happens to me all the time not with Toc but Felisin. I know she's influenced by a mad goddess, that she had suffered a lot of things, and that she deserves compassion and everything around at a theoretical level. But somehow I cannot get over the times she's really so disgusting and emotionally sadistic with everyone during the desert traveling in Deadhouse Gates. And I admit it makes me feel bad. Because I feel real disgust for a character beyond the "empathy breaking point" when it's supposed to be redeemed in the eyes of the reader... I think it's because reminds me a lot of a real someone in my past... how powerful these books are, yeez
Thank you! As far as I can recall, we do not know the ages of the Sengar brothers. I assume that Tiste Edur can potentially live as long as Tiste Andii, but I don’t see anyone like an Anomander Rake among them. Trull and his brothers must have been born well after the events of the prologue since they are ignorant of them, or at least the “real” version of them, until later in the story. Characters who appear in Kharkanas and have some association with the Tiste Edur, such as Scabandari, have a god-like status among the Edur, again suggesting they are younger, though some might be thousands of years old. I’d love to ask Erikson your question!
It’s interesting that Erikson seems to have considered himself *obligated* to squeeze two books together in The Bonehunters. I wonder if he ever considered making the series eleven books instead!
@@captainbritain7379 from what he said here and looking at the size of the latter books im guessing either he didnt or couldnt. Obviously i am always in favour of more Malazan from Stephen Erikson or Ian C Esslemont so I wish he could have had more books but maybe he just didnt need it outside of this instance?
I bet he could’ve written twenty books if he’d wanted to. I’m content with the ten we have, but, of course, there’s Kharkanas and The God is Not Willing coming too!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Yes i plan to backtrack and Read Kharkanas when the 3rd is up for pre-order and THe God is Not Willing after I finish Assail by ICE. We have been blessed by a wealth of Malazan and I cant wait to devour all of it lol
Hello there, Malazan nr1 Romanian reader and fan here, High Denul User Dr.Harp. I salute you! First of all i am happy to see Steven Erikson again! With your permission and help, have a question for Steve, and i belive you can ask him while going through Bonehunters. In the ending of the book, when Fid starts to play his fiddle and in process he's breaking his audience heart, well my heart was broken also. What i mean is , throughout the books ending by the time Travore returns to the ship, all the fighting , tragedy, delicious honor scenes, betrails, riots, blood , sword clashes and screams ,I had SONG in my head, telling me it was Fid singing, and the song was for those who fell but also for that night's events. Anywhay my question is this: Did Steven Erikson had a certain song in his mind when he wrote this? If he dad, what was the song?
Hello, Ofrim! That is an awesome question, and though I won’t have a chance to ask Steven Erikson, it’s possible that A.P. might. So, though I can’t promise an answer for sure, I’ll try to ask A.P. to ask Erikson so that we can tell you the answer when we do our spoiler discussion of The Bonehunters. Cheers!
A quick question, I will pose it to other Malaztubers. What author, living or dead, would you like to see let loose in the Malaz world and what would you like them to tackle?
Excellent question, though I suspect that, rather than being quick in answering, I could make a half hour video on this by myself, or if discussing it with A.P., we’d go on for an hour and a half. Anyway, how about Ursula Le Guin writing the story of a girl with talent becoming a mage?
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I would definitely watch that video Philip. 👍I left my own answers on Quick Jen's Kindly and Pores video. One of them is Tehol and Bugg in a post CG Lether written by Oscar Wilde.
I just finished Midnight Tides a couple of weeks ago so I’m just now getting to this video. I’m about 40 minutes in, but I wanted to pause to express my agreement on Mr. Erikson’s great character work. As I read, I come across a character and think I’m going to hate this guy but by the end of the book, I have some compassion or empathy for that character. While I might not agree with his or her actions, I understand in some cases what is driving the actions. Also, I don’t know what it says about me that I really want to read the Bauchelain and Korbal Broach novellas Mr. Erickson has written. I never expected to want to follow along with 2 necromancers. Lol. Should I wait to finish the 10 book series before reading the novellas?
I think you’d be absolutely fine to read the six published novellas (in volumes one and two) anytime now without fear of spoilers for MBOTF. You met Bauchelain and Korbal Broach in Memories of Ice, so the novellas will simply build on those characters with some of the most bizarre, uncomfortable, and hilarious scenes in the Malazan world. Happy reading, Carolyn!
One VERY tangential question which has come to mind after seeing the trailer for Edgar Wright's Sparks documentary on the Mael brothers is... did that band factor in the name of our favorite aquatic god?
Have you ever considered converting these videos into a Podcast format? I enjoy watching/listening, but 2 hours is a bit long to sit in front of my laptop.
I’ve never done a podcast, but it sounds like a fun thing to try. Of course, you could wander around while the video plays on your laptop or phone without watching. You would miss seeing our handsome faces, though!😁
It's always nice to know you have materials to pass your 2hrs driving especially with something like that. Great as always and especially I liked how AP pull the light in the right direction so we can see the play of Shadow in this series
AP during the MOI discussion be channeling my favorite long dead, totally non controversial German bearded boi "Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living."
The puns great. Imass a lot of them. We’re just trying to have a goat time. That’s all I have to say about Driss. I lied I can still Jhag around. I will not be Chained. Sorry to Bugg you.
Another excellent talk - thanks again as ever! Bit short though 😂 The layers and insights just keep piling up, as do the puns 😌 Very much looking forward to the next half, Kharkanas, Bauchelain and Korbal Broach , and hopefully sooner rather than later Rejoice 🤓 By that time we'll have several new books to talk about 😋
It was a bit of a pun-pile at the beginning, wasn’t it? There’s much to look forward to, and I will read Rejoice - I’m committed now since, when we weren’t recording, I told Steven Erikson I’d read it after I finished everything Malazan! And I look forward to it. We’ll try to make these a bit longer just for you, Rob! 😁
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy What little of that video I watched was rather illuminating (couldn't watch too much, as I have only read 2.333... Malazan books so far). But it is bookmarked for when I do manage to get thru the 1st five. (Currently tackling Hobb's Farseer, amongst other things)
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Will do. It has been since these books first came out that I read them. Barely recall them at all, just remember that I was utterly enthralled by them. I'm reading them and taking notes on how she writes character, studying her as a prime example of expert character work. And her prose is definitely as wonderful as Guy Gavriel Kay or Tad Williams, so that is inspirational as well.
Estou empezando a ler Malaz, e non lle vexo ningunha dificultade á lectura, non entendo como todo o mundo di que o 1* libro non hai quen o entenda. Considero que está moi claro, incluso o proceso de entender o que son as sendas
Gotta love how Steven 'Stoneface' Erikson just sat there plotting through that whole introduction. I do wonder though, is this the start of something new or just a pun off?
Thank you Philip! So interesting how SE describes theme and his books as a way to attack his own beliefs because I’ve always come away from reading these books with a very sobering view of myself, which is one of the things I love about them. You can’t help but keep it real with yourself... interesting that he was doing that as a tool for himself as well. AP is also offering such great insights as well, and is always so interesting to listen to and the genuine friendship between him and SE shines through and seems to put him at ease, which makes it even more enjoyable. Thank all three of you for this video. Gonna finish, but wanted to let you know that I appreciate this conversation from you!
Thank you, Iskar! This is a long one, but, as you've observed already, there are some real gems in here from Erikson and A.P. It's so sure that reading Malazan is in many ways an exercise in self reflection, which is one of the many reasons why we love this series so much. I hope you'll enjoy the rest of the video, my friend!
I'm very glad to see Steven Erikson again.
I am too!!!
Me three!
I wonder if we are te only 2 Romanians who have read Malazan books. 🤔
@@Wordsalad69420 I know at least two others!
@@Wordsalad69420 Check out Claudia Iovanovici's channel. Well worth it.
I got SO excited when I saw this in my feed this morning! ☺️
Well that is no pressure then... 😂😂
I hope that you enjoy it.
Thank you, Brittany! I hope you’ll enjoy the chat.
Thank you Philip! So interesting how SE describes theme and his books as a way to attack his own beliefs because I’ve always come away from reading these books with a very sobering view of myself, which is one of the things I love about them. You can’t help but keep it real with yourself... interesting that he was doing that as a tool for himself as well. AP is also offering such great insights as well, and is always so interesting to listen to and the genuine friendship between him and SE shines through and seems to put him at ease, which makes it even more enjoyable. Thank all three of you for this video. Gonna finish, but wanted to let you know that I appreciate this conversation from you!
I’m camping and terrible connection... sorry it added my comment twice, but that’s how much I love this video 🤪
Thanks, Iskar! As you say, Erikson and A.P. offer some real gems in this discussion. That’s a great insight about how reading Malazan encourages self reflection, and I’ve experienced that too. I hope you enjoy the rest of the chat!
Yay!! I love these midway discussions, specially on such a long series like Malazan. Cant wait to watch!
I hope you'll enjoy it!
Loved the way Erickson described leaving space in the narrative for Esselemont. Like a Jazz musician leaving space for another to fill in, riff and improvise and pass it back.
Its what i enjoy most about the Malazan story right now.
Its sooooo much fun. Love it.
Bring on The Jhistal, Witness, and Walk in Shadow.
Eagerly waiting to hear what gets played next.
I love the Jazz analogy, Andrew! Those two are an amazing duet, indeed, and each enriches the other, I think.
Always great to watch these kinds of conversations.
Glad to see Father Ochre joining you and AP.
The puns were on point :D
More concretely: Philip, your handling of the flow of these conversations is amazing. Sometimes we take things for granted, but I want to tell you explicitly that you do a great job in this type of discussions.
On a lighter note, an initial attempt at High House Wutube:
Elders:
- Father Ochre ( Erikson)
- Father Verdigris ( Esslemont)
Ascendants
- Magi 1 ( Prof. F'ireb'all)
- Magi 2 ( Dr. Ph'antasy)
- Guardian of the Wutube ( Iskar Jarak)
- Assassin ( Ruthan Badd)
Feel free to add and modify
Thanks so much, Niflrog - I really appreciate it! I’m the flow man, and A.P. is the razzle-dazzle guy! 😁 There’s definitely room for more members of The House of WuTube, such as the Knight (Niflrog)!
If Mage 1 and 2 combined Voltron-like, would they become D'octor P'unny?
@@marsrock316 Or D’Octor Fanballs!
-Mender of Pots ( Niflrog)
So. Much. Malazan. Content. I'm glad I chose this year to retry the series.
Perhaps the Errant nudged you? It's a great year for Malazan content on BookTube!
I was just saying the same on the discord this morning! What a time to get back into Malazan!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Surely the true Master of the Deck and not the old and lazy pretender :P
@@rupertcrump1312 there’s never a bad time! But, yes, BookTube is exploding with Malazan content these days.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thankfully it is! At times when I have bad anxiety and need an escape the books and now the videos on youtube have been a great source for me of something to throw my mind into that feels rewarding and healthy. Something good to obsess over lol
I love hearing Erikson talk about his books! You can tell he really listens to what people say about his books, and enjoys hearing the different ways people interpret what he's written. He may say what he intended to convey, but I never feel like he says a reader is wrong if they didn't quite take something the way he meant it. He just seems so respectful when he gives his explanations and intentions!
That is exactly how I feel, and I’m grateful that he’s so gracious with his time by chatting with fans and being so accessible and kind.
This was wonderful! I loved your question regarding the writing process for implementing themes, and I loved Erikson's response! I can already see examples in the first five books of how characters are in conflict with certain themes. You all addressed how certain themes that become prominent in a book can be identified in previous books. That's definitely been my experience for each book I've read! I'll notice a theme but then see its connection to previous books.
It's a been a while now since I read Gardens of the Moon, but one theme idea that came to mind for me during this discussion was alliance. There were so many strange alliances in that book, shifting allies, and begrudging allies. I thought of the scene you mentioned between Lorn and Tattersail as one example. That might be a stretch, but that came to mind. Thanks for this wonderful discussion!
Thank you, Johanna! Alliance is definitely an important theme for Gardens of the Moon and the series as a whole, so great insight! I also loved Erikson’s response to the question about incorporating themes. It was a joy to talk with him and A.P.
And how the alliances shift or the character's opinion of past/current ones. Or the nature of betrayal and the idea that betrayal can be justified.
Wow this was such a treat and a fantastic experiance to watch. Seeing Mr Erikson back was just so brilliant and as always watching him discuss his writing is a phenominal treat, as is having both you and A.P adding your own insights and contributions to the conversation. I cant wait to see the three of you discuss the entire series together when your reread is done. I think for that one you may need to break it into two parts lol. Such a great video for weekend, honestly this has made my weekend.
Thank you, Jack! I’ve started thinking about the big finale video already too, and I hope Erikson will join us. It also occurred to me that two parts might be wise! 😂
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy if return of the king can have an extended edition then i feel all 10 malazan books deserve at least 2 parts lol
@@rupertcrump1312 Sounds right to me!
Just finished Midnight Tides today and went inmediately here. Thank for this.
Congratulations on finishing Midnight Tides! I hope you enjoyed the discussion. I learned a lot from it myself!
MY FAVORITE MALAZAN TRIO
Ha ha! Thank you!
I can't get enough of these discussions, they are always so enlightening. This made cooking dinner a lot more fun. :)
I hope both the dinner and the discussion were pleasant!
Just sat down with a fresh coffee and my favourite gang pop's up on my feed, Opon's luck is in my favour today.
The gang is back! Enjoy the coffee and, hopefully, the chat!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I enjoy it anytime D'Octor Ph'Antasii & P'Rofessor Fireballs have a chat with Mr Erikson.
Always fun and full of insights, I learn so much.
@@deano2506 We aim to please!
Omg this just made my weekend. Every online Erikson sighting now feels like a victory over bad-faith bludgeoning and that's something I will always show up for.
Indeed! This was a joy for that reason and also just to indulge in the insights that Erikson and A.P. both shared.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy also I have seen Malazan on a lot of peoples top 10. It’s definitely on mine. And usually they ones who don’t have it haven’t read it yet
@@darren2880 It’s my number one. I also have seen it on many “best fantasy” lists online. Time Magazine totally dropped the ball with their “Top 100 fantasy” list, however.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy agreed
Def feel the same way here Emily Z
Thank you gentlemen for enriching my weekend. Loved this conversation. Have a great weekend all. 👍
Thank you, Seth! I’m happy to have contributed to your weekend!
I’m so grateful that you all are doing what you are doing with this read along. To have access to the thoughts of professional readers and such free and transparent access to the author is an unparalleled experience. You all have made my favorite fiction series even more enjoyable and meaningful than I could have ever wished. Keep up the good work!
Thank you, Gabriel! Expressions of gratitude like yours in this comment are all I need to keep me going on this channel. It’s a privilege, of course, to talk with people like A.P. Canavan and Steven Erikson. But every interaction, every comment left by a viewer, has been a vital part of this experience for me. Cheers!
A month ago this popped up in my feed, after 10 minutes I closed the video and added to my watch later list, thus began my re-read of the series. Moved onto Bonehunters this week, so I came back to watch this half-way theme recap video, great insights.
The second read of this series is such a different experience. Thank you for this upload and the resulting prompt to start the series again
Thank you for the wonderful comment, MrEtown! I’m happy the video spoke to you in that way. On the verge of completing my reread with A.P., I completely agree with you about how impactful the second read is. Every book blows me away. My very best to you as you continue your reread!
Great to see Mr Erikson back :)
Yes, indeed!
No bullying!
I am so addicted to these videos as I'm doing my own series reread, so first of all thanks for what you do!
It must feel great to state your opinions on themes of these books and have the author agree with you and build off your analysis to state his own opinions. I'm really enjoying A.P on these videos too and you guys work well together!
Thanks, Blake! The discussions with A.P. have been my favorite part of being on TH-cam, and having the chance to chat with Steven Erikson has been such an amazing honor, not to mention enriching for my experience of his books. I’m so glad the videos are enjoyable for you!
Stayed up wayyyyy to late last night editing, so this is great treat to wake up to
Happy birthday! Either belatedly or in advance, unless today is actually your birthday. 🥳 😁
I'll be brief: this was a tremendous treat. Thanks to all three of you! Very special.
I’m so glad someone can be brief! 😁 I’m also glad you enjoyed the discussion! Thank you, Johan!
Great discussion! And you savvily walked the line as host/moderator/participant. We're just all so damn lucky that Steve has made himself available to the community like this. So rich and rewarding.
Thank you! I wholeheartedly agree with you about how lucky we are that Steven Erikson has shared his insights with us in such an open and friendly way. Also, I love it when people use the word "savvily" in connection with anything I do, so thank you for making me smile!
It makes me happy that Steven joined the discussion despite those unfortunate "debate" a few weeks back 👍
It makes me happy too, Bernhard!
I likewise am learning so much from these conversations...delving into the thematic, and structural points has been so instructive and enjoyable. Cannot thank all three of you enough!
I’m very happy to hear this! The professor in me loves it when learning is happening, and I certainly learned a lot during the discussion. Thank you for the positive feedback!
Did this video break the length record for Malazan videos?
Loved the puntastic start and then the approach to writing themes within the books!
This is perfect weekend listening material for me! 🥰
Thank you, Livia! We might have indulged in a bit of frivolity there in the beginning. One hopes it wasn’t too punishing!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy shows what I know i was dispaointed when it ended and thought it could have gone on longer lol
Hope it helped you get through your cake making (im Crump has a bag of munitions on the discord dont worry im not just stalking you)
@@rupertcrump1312 That makes me happy to hear!
@@rupertcrump1312 haha, that was a mini heart attack :D but yeah, listening to some of my favourite people while struggling to make cake helps a lot with morale!
Fantastic conversation again. I feel privileged being able to read the series almost alongside you and listen to your enriching discussions. Keep up the good work. Love from Hungary
Thanks so much for the kind words, and I’m happy that our discussions have been enriching for you. They have been crucial in deepening my appreciation and love for Malazan as well. Happy reading to you!
Another day, another Malazan video, and another round of P'Rofessor Fireballs puns.
Thank you Philip for your opening question about Erikson's technique. It's always facinating to get insights into a fellow creative's process.
I loved Erikson's answer to that question. I keep picturing an old, worn-down barrow in the landscape, covered with wind-blown grass. Beneath the surface lies the theme.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy yes, that was a great way of explaining it. What resonated for me was also that what ever he tells us is his way of doing it and everybody else will have to figure out their own process. I think that's so true. If I would explain how I paint it would only be of limited use to others. Also explanations are nice but to learn a craft you have to practice it.
@@brush2canvas849 So true! Everyone works out their own approach to creative endeavors. Somehow, I enjoy learning about how the creative process unfolds for others too. There might be some reflection of myself even as I appreciate the differences.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy exactly! It's somehow oddly comforting.
My favourite thing about the interviews with Steven Erickson...
He’s perfectly happy to discuss themes from the Malazan series, but he’s already done the hard work writing them and letting his work speak for itself speaks enormously about the humble merit he gives himself.
He is incredibly gracious that way. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Just finished Gardens of the Moon. Now I need to careen through the next four books so I can eventually watch this!
Happy reading!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Done! *phew* I am now about to move onto The Bonehunters.
@@JD-td8kl Wow! That was fast!!! I’m about to read Bonehunters too. Looks like you’ll race by me!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Yes, it has felt like a somewhat feverish dream. I had some time on the plane recently, which helped. Basically all of my spare time over the past month has been poured into these novels. And we Australians have just entered full lockdown, so now I guess I will have even more time to dedicate to them. See you on the other end of The Bonehunters!
@@JD-td8kl See you then, and my best wishes to you and your loved ones for enduring the lockdown. Stay safe!
So glad to see Mr Erikson back again
I am too! 😄
Great discussion! Just starting on Bonehunters (first time Malazan reader) so this was a good discussion to propel me into the second half. Thank you to Philip, A.P. and Steven!
We are happy to be of service! I hope you’ll enjoy the second half of the series, Danie!
excellent video. I enjoyed it very much.
Thank you! I’m happy you enjoyed the discussion!
Thank you so much Mr. Erikson for writing these books and being a cool writer overall.
Amen to that!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy :D
Wonderful discussion. Was wondering if you could possibly make a video on reading tips, such as how to read quicker coupled with increasing focus and comprehension. Thank you, and be well!
Thank you! I consider myself a slow reader because I’m always pausing to admire sentences. I know only one genuine tip for reading faster while increasing comprehension, and that is to read more and more until you get better. Pretty lame advice, I know. But I’m suspicious of people who claim to teach speed reading. Reading fast decreases comprehension and makes you miss details. I could be wrong, but that’s my take without having done any comprehensive research on the topic. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy My whole perception for reading changed, as I used to see it as a chore in school being forced to read books but as I get older and am discovering my interests I am finding reading to be a great hobby.
I will continue to read, and hope to improve the skill. I just finished "Interview with the Vampire" by Anne Rice, and am starting Stephen King's "Dead Zone" now.
You have a real gift for eloquently describing these stories, and I appreciate the work you put into these videos.
Cheers!
@@1337rico Thank you so much, and I wish you much fulfillment and many wonderful journeys in your reading!
Such an enjoyable discussion. I will be starting Bonehunters soon. Looking forward to it
I’m happy you enjoyed the chat, Andrea! Best wishes with The Bonehunters!
I'm late to the party but we've finally finished watching this. Thank you! :)
The puns were fantastic, and so was all the conversation. I'm very grateful for every single discussion you guys record!
It'd be nice if you guys got SE to join the Crack'd Pot Trail discussion :P
Oh, that’s a wonderful idea, Rox! Then there would be three of us giving poor A.P. a hard time. 😁 I’m glad you enjoyed this discussion - even the puns! It was an incredibly enjoyable experience for me, and I’m happy if any other Erikson fans take pleasure from it. Cheers!
Hello Dr. Chase! No fire puns from me, this video has reached its quota :)
Just finished Midnight Tides yesterday so here I am. After reading through the comments I don't know how much I can add beyond everyone's already effusive praise but here goes.
Philip -- perfect host/moderator (plus, bonus insight!)
AP -- absolutely next level profound analysis
Steve -- the Holy Father (joking but... lol)
I just want to say how enjoyable these are. The insights into what you and AP think/feel, alongside the inner workings of Erikson's weird and crazy brain... it adds so much to my first-time reading experience. I can't even imagine reading these books with no extracurricular material, and I admire anyone who did. But I don't need to imagine it because I have you guys, plus so many other content creators.
Last thought is I just keep coming back to Erikson and the gift he gives us with his time and transparency. It is a truly wondrous thing. I ALMOST enjoy listening to him talk (about... ANYthing) as much as I enjoy reading his books. Each book I finish, I rush to listen to the interview he does with the Ten Very Big Books podcast, videos like this, interviews wherever I can find them that won't spoil the later books. And it all just increases my love for the series, and makes me wonder what we did to deserve a gift like Erikson himself.
Anyway please keep up the good work!! I'll be watching AP's Critical Convos from this book tomorrow I think, and then hopefully back here to your channel for more Malazan content as I get further into the series!
Hello, Chris. Your wonderful comments here are a perfect illustration of why we make these videos. Even without any fire puns. 😁 I’m so glad you enjoyed the discussion and took some things from it. Also, I completely agree with everything you wrote about A.P. and Steven Erikson. They are both brilliant and kind, making them pretty fun to hang out with. My very best to you as you continue to read the series!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Aw thanks sir! I'm glad that I can brighten your day a little and reaffirm your work here. See you on another video soon!
"Hark Kaminsod! Witness the Summoning of Eri-Cke-Shon the Co-Creator, by A'ei-Pi the Hibernian APostate of Eri-Cke-Shon the Co-Creator and Philippos of Yaankeey, Oracles of the Malazan Co-Creators!"
Thank you to you both, Professor Chase and Doc AP, for a great Midway Discussion! Always fun to get Erikson's own take on the themes and the writing process: Loved the metaphor of themes as a "Hidden enemy"/"Buried Underlying Structure"!
As a tangent: I openly admit that one thing I love about (by many loathed) "Phantom Menace", is how the Ancient Ruins and the partial buried statues on Naboo almost without any Dialogue give Naboo both a feeling of a genuine, but Forgotten and Mysterious, Past (akin to Angkor Wat or Stonehenge) and an Atmosphere of Human and Societal Hubris worthy of Shelley's "Ozymandias", making it without any shame my favourite setting in Star Wars. As such, Erikson's masterful use of present but mysterious past in general and archeological features in particular, is one of my favourite features of his writing.
Less serious: Since Doc AP has announced the "Death of the Author", does this offically give you both the title of "Literate Necromancers"?
The layers of the past Erikson presents in his books make up one of my favorite features of the series. It’s not just compelling world building - the past is almost a character influencing the present. Aren’t all critics necromancers of a sort, preying upon the corpses of all those dead authors (since the author is, of course, dead)? 😁
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Precisely that Professor: The Past not only makes the Physical Malazan World a Character of it's own and shapes/scars the characters and societies with Nostalgia and Past Trauma, but is a Character on it's very own, well put! I think many writers are good at showing how geography and societies shape individuals (and vice versa), but few manage to show the impact of the evolution of time on geography and societies, and some not even with individuals! Erikson masters them all!
@@MacScarfield Beautifully said, and I couldn’t agree more!
Literary necromancer... I'm stealing that one, if you don't mind 😂
@@oniflrog4487 Just as critics steal from the corpses of those dead authors!
Thank you very much for the discussion :-) enlightening, as always :-) Much appreciated!
Our pleasure! And thanks so much for watching and letting us know you enjoyed it!
If its possible, can you please forward this message to Steven Erikson
Sir,
First, I loved the MALAZAN BOOK OF THE FALLEN series and I fell in
love with the series since the 1st book and have kind of binged
through the entire series in 7 Months.
And at the end I was left with the feeling that I wanted more, not of
all as many including Fiddler and the gang have earned a well earned
rest but Ganoes Paran,
he has so much potential and I just wanted to know if there are any
plans for a spin off series that revolves around High fist Master of the Deck Ganoes Paran and
his army perhaps discovering
more of the different elder warrens with a new foe. I and many others
would just love to see more of him.
Hello, Suryansh! That's a great suggestion, I think! I'll pass on the message the next time I have a chance to chat with Steven Erikson, though that might not be for a while. I'm happy to hear that you've found Malazan so immersive and awesome!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thanks..I really appreciate it
Man, these make me feel spoiled to have such a behind the curtain look. You guys are awesome
I’m glad you feel spoiled! It’s our pleasure, and thank you for watching and commenting!
I was pleasantly surprised you mentioned witnesses wrt the Chain of Dogs ending. That's a great theme that I feel often goes unspoken or unnoticed by the readers and I was planning on pointing it out right before you did. It's also a theme that recurs in the (spoliers for Memories of Ice in replies)
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Yes, witnessing is all over the place, both within the books and on a meta level between the reader and books. And that scene you mention is definitely one of the most powerful!
Commenting early to say that the exchange of puns was amazing.
If you keep encouraging him he will never stop torturing me... 😭😭😭
In that case, I will continue pun-ishing A.P.!!!
@@ACriticalDragon i am pretty sure that is the idea lol
So... The series is an island... Remember that the empire also extended from Malaz Island.
Great Channel Phillip. Congratulations
Excellent point! Thanks so much for the kind words and for watching the discussion!
One theme I got from Gardens was the notion of “just following orders”. Very easy to sit in judgement, i.e Lorn being furious with Tattersail, but much harder to act when you’re in that situation, Lorn releasing Raest against her own morality.
Most definitely! The temptation to excuse conformity to wrong actions because we are all cogs in the wheel, denying personal responsibility in the process, is a big Malazan theme. Thanks for the excellent comment!
Starting House of Chains on June 1 with Mike’s Malazan Army so I’ll need to come back after another 2 books. Honestly I can’t imagine a better time to be a new fan of this series. Thanks for all the great content.
Our pleasure, and I wish you much fulfillment in your Malazan read - Mike’s read along is the perfect way for new readers to immerse themselves in the series!
So many convergences recently. And this is the biggest so far.
It was a ton of fun for me. We talked a while longer after recording, and I felt like we could’ve chatted for hours and hours more. I hadn’t even realized just how long the recorded discussion was!
So disappointed that you didn't let Erikson talk more, Philip.
So disappointed. 😂😂😂😂😂
This was so much fun to do, and I always appreciate the opportunity to talk with you about literature. Thank you, Philip.
Might as well get that over with, eh? It's always a magical experience to chat with P'Rofessor Fireballs, and that Erikson guy got in a few words too!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy well we had to let him talk a little, but we all know that our views are far more important. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ACriticalDragon Naturally! After all, we know what Barthes says about an author’s inevitable fate.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy St'van Imass... The undead author.
I agree with you on most of the things besides the crippled god.
I'm halfway through the series.
And i think its the opposite way. The crippled god is mentioned constantly. And you see him plotting and pulling strings. He is for me the constant presence that is looming over the story. But the chracters don't know about it. Besides Quick Ben. I loved it that way.
It will be very interesting to hear your feelings on The Crippled God when you finish the series. Cheers!
Thanks so much for this!
Delighted to deliver it!
This is gold for fans and aspiring writers. I hope you can bring on Esslemont to chat with you three in a future video as well. Fingers crossed!
That’s most certainly a goal and a cherished wish for me!
Well it took a while but the quarter dropped (as they say in Dutch) about rejoice.
The theme is central, where I had more of an issue with the plot, but the plot is not the point...
Interesting as always, thanks for the discussion.
I’m glad the quarter dropped! I’m looking forward to reading Rejoice after I’ve finished all the Malazan stuff. Thanks for watching!
Currently nearing part 4 of Reapers Gale and I’m loving the content. I’ve burnt through this series, it’s made me read 500 pages yesterday. It’s already my new favourite. Thx for all the vids
I'm very happy to hear you're loving Malazan! Also, I'm extremely impressed by 500 pages in a day!!! Malazan sits at number one for me too.
Chiming in on the last few minutes about plots and themes of the series. There plots that go through the books and varying themes, but the overall plot remains hidden for some time. It is this ambiguity that can both be enjoyable and frustrating. Would love to read some of the theories banded about when the books were first published.
And I think verisimilitude is the P'rofessors ochre.
Are fireballs ochre? 🔥 I think they might be! At least they are a verisimilitude of ochre.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy And if you Google the word.the example given is 'the detail gives the novel some verisimilitude.' But it is just one of those words that will jump out to me now.
Super interesting comments of A.P on walking in the other shoes. Amazes me how difficult is sometimes. It happens to me all the time not with Toc but Felisin. I know she's influenced by a mad goddess, that she had suffered a lot of things, and that she deserves compassion and everything around at a theoretical level. But somehow I cannot get over the times she's really so disgusting and emotionally sadistic with everyone during the desert traveling in Deadhouse Gates. And I admit it makes me feel bad. Because I feel real disgust for a character beyond the "empathy breaking point" when it's supposed to be redeemed in the eyes of the reader... I think it's because reminds me a lot of a real someone in my past... how powerful these books are, yeez
It just goes to show you how well Malazan characters capture the complexity of real people. All the best, Raul!
Fantastic episode - regarding midnight tides, Do we know the ages of the Tiste Edur - the Sengar brothers? and do they live as long as Andii?
Thank you! As far as I can recall, we do not know the ages of the Sengar brothers. I assume that Tiste Edur can potentially live as long as Tiste Andii, but I don’t see anyone like an Anomander Rake among them. Trull and his brothers must have been born well after the events of the prologue since they are ignorant of them, or at least the “real” version of them, until later in the story. Characters who appear in Kharkanas and have some association with the Tiste Edur, such as Scabandari, have a god-like status among the Edur, again suggesting they are younger, though some might be thousands of years old. I’d love to ask Erikson your question!
Just need to read Midnight Tides and then i will be back!
Hi Saeed, we go through the books sequentially, so you can actually watch almost all of this. Midnight Tides is at the end.
@@ACriticalDragon Oh that's good to know. Thanks for the info.
Enjoy Midnight Tides, Saeed!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thank you so much! Really looking forward to it.
It’s interesting that Erikson seems to have considered himself *obligated* to squeeze two books together in The Bonehunters. I wonder if he ever considered making the series eleven books instead!
I think he was only contracted to make 10
@@rupertcrump1312 I thought so. I wonder whether he ever considered trying to extend the contract to fit in more stuff.
@@captainbritain7379 from what he said here and looking at the size of the latter books im guessing either he didnt or couldnt. Obviously i am always in favour of more Malazan from Stephen Erikson or Ian C Esslemont so I wish he could have had more books but maybe he just didnt need it outside of this instance?
I bet he could’ve written twenty books if he’d wanted to. I’m content with the ten we have, but, of course, there’s Kharkanas and The God is Not Willing coming too!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Yes i plan to backtrack and Read Kharkanas when the 3rd is up for pre-order and THe God is Not Willing after I finish Assail by ICE. We have been blessed by a wealth of Malazan and I cant wait to devour all of it lol
The Troy analogy reminds me of Maximus in Gladiator, who is told he kills too quickly and that he must entertain the crowd.
That’s a film I could watch again!
Yay Shavencrat brothers love.
They deserve it!
Steven Erikson is God ❤️
The greatest writers reach an audience that extends well beyond the span of their mortal lives - I believe Steven Erikson will do so!
Hello there, Malazan nr1 Romanian reader and fan here, High Denul User Dr.Harp. I salute you!
First of all i am happy to see Steven Erikson again!
With your permission and help, have a question for Steve, and i belive you can ask him while going through Bonehunters. In the ending of the book, when Fid starts to play his fiddle and in process he's breaking his audience heart, well my heart was broken also. What i mean is , throughout the books ending by the time Travore returns to the ship, all the fighting , tragedy, delicious honor scenes, betrails, riots, blood , sword clashes and screams ,I had SONG in my head, telling me it was Fid singing, and the song was for those who fell but also for that night's events. Anywhay my question is this: Did Steven Erikson had a certain song in his mind when he wrote this? If he dad, what was the song?
Hello, Ofrim! That is an awesome question, and though I won’t have a chance to ask Steven Erikson, it’s possible that A.P. might. So, though I can’t promise an answer for sure, I’ll try to ask A.P. to ask Erikson so that we can tell you the answer when we do our spoiler discussion of The Bonehunters. Cheers!
A quick question, I will pose it to other Malaztubers. What author, living or dead, would you like to see let loose in the Malaz world and what would you like them to tackle?
Excellent question, though I suspect that, rather than being quick in answering, I could make a half hour video on this by myself, or if discussing it with A.P., we’d go on for an hour and a half. Anyway, how about Ursula Le Guin writing the story of a girl with talent becoming a mage?
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I would definitely watch that video Philip. 👍I left my own answers on Quick Jen's Kindly and Pores video. One of them is Tehol and Bugg in a post CG Lether written by Oscar Wilde.
@@sethulakovic3722 Oh, awesome idea! He’d go Wilde with the dialogue!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy,, 😂😂😂
Great video man! I was wondering if you have read Jady city/Jade war?
Not yet, but eventually I’ll get to it. From what I’ve heard, it sounds excellent!
I just finished Midnight Tides a couple of weeks ago so I’m just now getting to this video. I’m about 40 minutes in, but I wanted to pause to express my agreement on Mr. Erikson’s great character work. As I read, I come across a character and think I’m going to hate this guy but by the end of the book, I have some compassion or empathy for that character. While I might not agree with his or her actions, I understand in some cases what is driving the actions.
Also, I don’t know what it says about me that I really want to read the Bauchelain and Korbal Broach novellas Mr. Erickson has written. I never expected to want to follow along with 2 necromancers. Lol. Should I wait to finish the 10 book series before reading the novellas?
I think you’d be absolutely fine to read the six published novellas (in volumes one and two) anytime now without fear of spoilers for MBOTF. You met Bauchelain and Korbal Broach in Memories of Ice, so the novellas will simply build on those characters with some of the most bizarre, uncomfortable, and hilarious scenes in the Malazan world. Happy reading, Carolyn!
One VERY tangential question which has come to mind after seeing the trailer for Edgar Wright's Sparks documentary on the Mael brothers is... did that band factor in the name of our favorite aquatic god?
Perhaps A.P. knows the answer to that one! If not, the next time we chat with Erikson, we should ask. I love tangential questions!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy That would be awesome! And thanks to you (and all) for these great talks! -Scott
@@tightyellowshorts Our pleasure, Scott!
Ohhhh these puns are fabulous
Thank you! Not everyone loves them, so I’m glad you don’t see them as punishment! 😁
Recently finished Mt so was able to watch fully. Absolutely brilliant conversation. So much great insight. Thanks
@@SpitfireStoryboards Thanks for coming back to finish watching! It was definitely an enlightening discussion for me.
Have you ever considered converting these videos into a Podcast format? I enjoy watching/listening, but 2 hours is a bit long to sit in front of my laptop.
I’ve never done a podcast, but it sounds like a fun thing to try. Of course, you could wander around while the video plays on your laptop or phone without watching. You would miss seeing our handsome faces, though!😁
That would admittedly be a greater tragedy than Y'Ghatan.
@@nw82534 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Or Capustan and Coral put together!
No experience there myself, but isn't it possible to upload the audio files as a podcast?
@@robpaul7544 Unless it's literally just a video on YT being called a podcast, there's a bit more to it than that.
absolutely essential. there is little better to be found than this, and for free, at that!
We aim to please! In truth, I’d talk about these books all day, and doing so would be its own reward. Thanks for watching!
Midway Malazan.. just sounds cool. I'm on book 8 and still feel like I'm behind haha. Ty for this you guys, this is a treat 🤓👍
It’s our pleasure! And thanks so much for watching and expressing your appreciation!
Really looking forward to AP&co reviewing Apto&co soon in Crack'dpot .
Oh, it’s going to be fun watching A.P. analyze Apto! 😁
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Definitely a critical analysis.
@@Paul_van_Doleweerd It’ll be like watching Inception or staring at an Escher illustration!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I sure he's sherding himself in anticipation.
It's always nice to know you have materials to pass your 2hrs driving especially with something like that.
Great as always and especially I liked how AP pull the light in the right direction so we can see the play of Shadow in this series
This was a fun conversation for me, and it makes me happy to think it might be for others too. I wish you pleasant driving, Shmuel!
AP during the MOI discussion be channeling my favorite long dead, totally non controversial German bearded boi
"Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living."
That fella had some quotable moments, didn’t he?
The puns great. Imass a lot of them. We’re just trying to have a goat time. That’s all I have to say about Driss.
I lied I can still Jhag around. I will not be Chained. Sorry to Bugg you.
*claps slowly while grinning
The return of the goat! This is udderly fantastic!!!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy But is it a crimson goat?
@@Paul_van_Doleweerd After the sacrifice, yes.
Tehol thing is terrible... 🤣
Another excellent talk - thanks again as ever!
Bit short though 😂
The layers and insights just keep piling up, as do the puns 😌
Very much looking forward to the next half, Kharkanas, Bauchelain and Korbal Broach , and hopefully sooner rather than later Rejoice 🤓
By that time we'll have several new books to talk about 😋
It was a bit of a pun-pile at the beginning, wasn’t it? There’s much to look forward to, and I will read Rejoice - I’m committed now since, when we weren’t recording, I told Steven Erikson I’d read it after I finished everything Malazan! And I look forward to it. We’ll try to make these a bit longer just for you, Rob! 😁
Dr Chase was on fire 🔥 at the beginning when he was introducing Dr Canavan!
Ha ha! It was a sizzling introduction! 😁 Thanks, Glenn!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy What little of that video I watched was rather illuminating (couldn't watch too much, as I have only read 2.333... Malazan books so far). But it is bookmarked for when I do manage to get thru the 1st five. (Currently tackling Hobb's Farseer, amongst other things)
@@TheGeekyHippie Nice! Enjoy Hobb’s gorgeous writing, Glenn!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Will do. It has been since these books first came out that I read them. Barely recall them at all, just remember that I was utterly enthralled by them. I'm reading them and taking notes on how she writes character, studying her as a prime example of expert character work. And her prose is definitely as wonderful as Guy Gavriel Kay or Tad Williams, so that is inspirational as well.
@@TheGeekyHippie I agree about her characters and her prose - simply one of the best!
Oh god, what was that beginning, I don't know wether to laugh or not haha. You really Warrented this pun fest will never die, no?
Come for the literary analysis, stay for the bad jokes and puns.
I suppose you could laugh and groan simultaneously? To "grauph" is the only appropriate response!
Have you started on wizard and glass yet book four in the dark tower series yet 🤔🤨😏
Not yet! I’ll be starting The Waste Lands in a couple days. 😁
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy the wastelands is so amazing I hope you enjoy reading it 😊☺️💝💖🥰
@@cynthiaholmes5124 I expect to love it!
😂🤣 the puns were Greatness
Thank you! Definitely in the tradition of Malazan humor! 😁
It took me 2 months to complete deadhouse gates didn't like it upto whirlwhin but damn the ending jeez what an ending fuck.
It’s quite an ending! I’m glad that pushing through Deadhouse Gates paid off for you.
Estou empezando a ler Malaz, e non lle vexo ningunha dificultade á lectura, non entendo como todo o mundo di que o 1* libro non hai quen o entenda. Considero que está moi claro, incluso o proceso de entender o que son as sendas
Me alegro de que estés disfrutando de Malazan y de que no te resulte demasiado difícil. ¡Feliz lectura!
Gotta love how Steven 'Stoneface' Erikson just sat there plotting through that whole introduction.
I do wonder though, is this the start of something new or just a pun off?
We did get a few smiles there, but we shall see what results the plotting shall have!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I suspect you will be honored, even as your future character is eviscerated...
@@marsrock316 Evisceration is the least of my worries!
@@marsrock316 Probably head in the crook of a tree type thing.
Aaahahaha the puns 😂
Poor Steven Erikson! 😁
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy chef's kiss
Idk why but Erikson looks exactly how I thought he would ahah
He looks like an author, doesn’t he?
Brace yourself for 'Crack'd Pot Trail'.
Oh, I’m incredibly excited for it!
Thank you Philip! So interesting how SE describes theme and his books as a way to attack his own beliefs because I’ve always come away from reading these books with a very sobering view of myself, which is one of the things I love about them. You can’t help but keep it real with yourself... interesting that he was doing that as a tool for himself as well. AP is also offering such great insights as well, and is always so interesting to listen to and the genuine friendship between him and SE shines through and seems to put him at ease, which makes it even more enjoyable. Thank all three of you for this video. Gonna finish, but wanted to let you know that I appreciate this conversation from you!
Thank you, Iskar! This is a long one, but, as you've observed already, there are some real gems in here from Erikson and A.P. It's so sure that reading Malazan is in many ways an exercise in self reflection, which is one of the many reasons why we love this series so much. I hope you'll enjoy the rest of the video, my friend!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy One could almost say not long enough. This did not feel like 2+ hours. Great work as always!
@@josephmissig5301 I’m happy it went by fast for you, Joseph. It certainly did for me. Thank you for watching and commenting!