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- Is the Brembo BBS Recaro Package worth getting on the 2023 Mazda Miata Club? See what's all included in this MX-5 Performance pack & if you should get it! Comment below!
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Absolutely yes! This sport package along with the KW suspension and aftermarket exhaust brings Miata to a next level of performance.
Nice thanks for watching!
Love the Brembos and the wheels! This feature really makes the car stand out. Nice review.
Sure does! Thanks for watching!
I bought my 2023 MX-5 RF GT in June with the Napa leather seats and I don't regret a thing. Makes a long ride quite comfy!
Oh nice! Is that the brown leather?
@@CarGuy11 yeah it's very, very nice.
They are nice, but the smooth leather doesn’t hold you in too well :/
@@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 I have no problem with it.
Well, I've had a '16, '17, '19 and I'm on my 2nd '23, the 1st was totaled back in January. The 3 prior to the 1st '23 were just color changes, both 23's are and were Grand Touring in Platinum Quartz w/ Terracotta Napa Leather seats. The only changes done to both of the '23's were to install the Goodwin RoadsterSport Race muffler's. Sounds close to the 64 MGB I had back in the day. The feelings are still there, but not the reflexes these days. I've been waiting for anyone to comment on the expensive canvass ragtops, but they never do. All those old MG's came with Vinyl tops with plastic rear windows. Hell, even the magnificent Morgan's come with vinyl ragtops. I think pointing out that in one of your driver reviews would be helpful to a lot of people out here. Good video, thanks, Carl
Oh ok thanks for watching! What is the cost?
If you can swing for it i'de say go for it. Yes can all be done aftermarket,but the fact factory offers it i think is pretty nice. Special cars that won't be with us for long.
Agreed!
Bilstein shocks also come with the kit. I understand they are on the grand touring as well, but back in 2016-17 it was called the bbb kit, bilstein, brembo, and bbs. But now it adds the recaro’s, and the body trim came with it but could be separately ordered. Another small known trim is the alcantara inserts that were orders ls back in 2021. Including dash, door cards, shifter boot, and handbrake boot and handle, all alcantara to match the recaro’s.
Ah ok good info thanks!
The Bilstein shocks are standard with the Club even without the BBS Brembo Recaro package and also standard on the Grand Touring trim with manual transmission. In the USA.
@@RPO767 it’s good to know but, the bilsteins just add to name brand effect, the particular models of bilstein shocks used are really not that great. But, as a package from the manufacturer, the club with all package upgrade is THE model to purchase (at least as a starting point for sporty ride). Manual transmission is a MUST, compromised suspension has always been the trade off, either the vehicle has Cadillac pillow ride (which compromises at peak handling, or, precise handling, which gives a hard ride to the driver). I can say I love the mx5 platform of near 50/50 weight distribution, small size to make you feel in control of the entire vehicle, and legal power. You can do a 3-4 gear redline blast onto a public highway from an on ramp without blowing past the legal speed limits and/or flying past limits of driver control. If you’ve ever done that on a 1000cc super bike, you’ll know what I mean….a driver/rider can break laws in 1st gear…2nd is jail time….3rd gear at redline is near death lol.
To be honest, i expected a little more from the package. Brembo brakes and BBS rims look awesome, but aren’t a big improvement as being the rotor same dimension. Bilstein are a bit of a delusion, i’m going to change sway bars because the car isn’t very sporty to drive. Recaro seats are fantastic, but i’m a bit disappointed by the cost of the car. It’s a very good looking car, but it’s just starting point for a fun-to-drive toy. Lot of cash have to be spent on.
The Recaros are absolutely absolutely worth it to me. Those seats are incredibly comfortable. So much better than the leather seats. I’ve done a 6 hour road trip no problems, 3 hours in the standard leather seats in my GT I had before the club, my back was in pain. The BBS wheels are hard to keep clean, look terrible with any dust on them from the Brembos, and there is a strange brake imbalance with having such powerful brakes only on the front with not so sticky tires. Recaros definitely, the rest I could live without 🤷🏽♂️ I’m 5’8” 175 lbs so that car is tailor fit for me. Your results may vary
Ah ok good info thanks!
Heck yeah. IMO, the club is the best overall trim. A little suspension and engine goodies and this car will surprise you how quick and agile it can be.
Sure is fun!
just got my 23 club with the brembo, bbs, recaro package and it is so worth it. the seats alone are 100x better then the regular seats.
Agreed!
Sure, if you like the tight shoulder area poking into your back
I think it’s absolutely worth it if u absolutely must to have a mix-5!
Agreed!
I just ordered a base and only option - the sound red exterior color. The price is $29,810. They discounted it to $29,000. So it comes with gloss back wheels standard and the black cloth top. I don’t plan on tracking so I don’t feel I need BREMBO brakes or the Recaro seats. These seats felt a bit too restrictive with a narrow center and larger bolsters. Plus they felt harder than the standard seats too. In addition I think the 16” wheels will look and feel better with more rubber for a retro look. They also will provide a smoother ride. So yes the added $4500 makes the car look cool but in the red with standard gloss black wheels it still looks great and I save about $9,000. The added aero black gloss cosmetic bits are easily added by the dealer later for essentially the same look as the club. For $29k it’s an amazing toy!
Sounds good to me. Didn’t realize the base wheels are black.
Wow, you did REALLY well at 29K!!!
I opted for the BBR Sport Package. Looks absolutely stunning in Mica Black. Dam she looks good all polished up. Honestly, it doesn't matter where I go, I "ALWAYS" get tons of compliments on my soft top MX-5.
No regrets whatsoever ----> Enjoy your new ride man, they are incredibly amazing roadsters!
Only problem with the Sport and 16” wheels is the wheel fender gap is just ridiculous. I had to lower mine immediately, it was just ugly. I’m not sure why Mazda doesn’t adjust this.
Of coarse it all comes down to budget, and yes, we all want all that nice stuff, but I'd be more than happy with just the base model .Thank you. 😊
Yes sir
As for aftermarket items: It would be wonderful to see clamp-on "Vent Windows". Vent Windows eliminate most of the wind buffeting.
Which particular buffeting do they address? I’m buying one soon and chose soft top over RF because of noise with the hard top in down position.
The Riccardo hurts my a** “the normal leather seats are super soft . It’s beautiful! Like a baby jaguar 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Haha
As an owner of the ND2 with sport package, I suggest people who wants the aftermarket looks and performance with stuffs from big and nice brand purchase the package, while those who will mod their cars anyways don't.
Btw the Recaro seat does worth the money, as it is nearly the same feeling as those aftermarket basket seat, while it has the Bose speaker installed on the headrest area, and also heated seat function that aftermarket chair won't give you
Makes sense thanks for sharing!
You can get a base MX-5 for $28,000+ and install some of these upgrades.
In the Uk we cant get this pakage seperatly as an add on we have to go for the highest spec to get it which is about 39000 pounds for an RF 2 litre.
Ah ok thanks.
Been a bit underwhelmed by the Brembo brakes to be honest on mine.
Being 6' tall, I am wondering if the Recaro seats add even the slightest bit of legroom? I have only sat in an MX-5 with the regular seats and felt like I needed just a tad bit more legroom. Nobody ever has them on the lot for me to sit in.
Hmm I honestly don’t think so but I guess it’s worth hunting one down to try.
I will say my husband is definitely more comfortable in the passenger seat with the recaros, he’s 5’10, 240lbs. Never complains about them, but was not comfortable in the leathers
Any 6 footer can easily fit in the Miata, it's not even a question. Height generally isn't a problem until you get past 6'2" depending on how you're body is proportioned, of course. I owned a ND1 GT soft top and my 6'2" 180lb friend fit just fine. His head didn't touch the roof at all and he had plenty of legroom.
I would love it if the MX 5 came with a more aggressive sounding exhaust note more than these upgrades
Agreed it’s a very quiet exhaust. th-cam.com/users/shorts38r9Ax3WEZ0?feature=share
Goodwin Street or Race exhaust for around $600 makes this car sound incredible!
4500 too much for what you get. I’d pay 1k for the Recaros but the rest is not much better than what it replaces. I passed and just got the base club.
Gotcha
I think that is the way to go. Replace the suspension with coil-overs and other mods with the $4500 saved.
I don’t know of it is AUD or USD but in Europe, these go well over 1.000 EUR (1.100 USD) each. Secondhand… I have them in my ND and apart from getting in and out (looooow and I am 50+) they sit and look fantastic.
Surprised to see that the suspension is not upgraded. Sport versions over here have a Bilstein setup. The body kit is an option.
Soul red exterior paint was my only option!
Best color for sure!
Don’t want the aero, don’t need the Brembo, BUT for the life of me, I cannot find any way to add OEM Recaro with heating and Bose to any Miata :/
NO buy the standard version of the MD, and then spend time treating it with aftermarket tuning treats.
It will make the car more personal, and special, if you choose the toys, not Mazda
Fair point!
Just bought the Club, with the package, in pearl mica, last weel, and the answer is 100% STILL Miata. LOVE this car.
Awesome congrats!
What about the hard top ? Can I still order it
Yes the RF model is still available.
I can do a Cobra/Volk Racing/Wilwood package, for way less than Mazda charges for its performance package. Haha!
What about body kit?
No you can't, not if you're getting things new like you get from Mazda. Those Recaros with the rails and sliders are gonna be about $4000 alone and they won't be heated or have the speakers inside. Then the BBS wheels are a few thousand, the Brembo brake kit is close to $2000 installed and the body kit on top of all that. With installation of all these items included I'd say you're paying about half of what you would if this wasn't through Mazda.
Recaro seats for NC model is more better. Its have lift for all seat not for only under knees section.
Ah ok.
Wish I could get aftermarket recaros for my UK car
Is this package available there?
@@CarGuy11 not that I’m aware of , all Uk . Arms come in totally different spec from new and I’m not aware of Mazda offering aftermarket options
@@CarGuy11 For the 2023 model year, the HOMURA is the top of the three trim levels, here in the UK. It has the Brembo/BBS items as standard, but there is no opportunity to option in the Recaro seats at all. The front/side/rear aero package is a dealer fit option package, or can be asked for in the constituent parts, if you don't want them all.
Can you let us know what Mazda dealers charge for the Recaro seats to be supplied and fitted, say to a six month old car that was not specced with these seats from the factory please?. It would really help us when speaking to our UK dealers. Thanks.
Wow ok. You can’t buy the Recaro seats separately in the States. Just the package.
@@CarGuy11 thanks
Brembo, yes. BBS, yes. Recaro, no. I prefer the cloth seats, they hug you while the Recaro doesn't. But if you are fat than the Recaro would be a good idea, while being skinny the cloth seats would be better.
Good review. Please don’t forget that utube is international and the specs you’re talking about are American only. Australia gets different specs as New Zealand differs again England also differs. Every country in the world gets different specs depending on what that country negotiates with Mazda Japan. Good review but should specify you are talking about American Miata otherwise known as MX5 everywhere else. Please note. No disrespect intended.
Ok thanks for pointing that out and appreciate you watching!
@@CarGuy11 look forward to your next review. I’ve ordered my ND3 2024 gt due to what I’ve seen on the internet however I don’t have confirmation on it yet because Mazda Australia doesn’t know yet not even the exact price. But at least I have my NC to enjoy in the meantime.
@cptndave1 Cool hopefully I’ll be able to review the 2024 this year.
I don't think that car is gloss black. It looks like that Machine Gray to me.
The accents & body kit are gloss black.
Bought the sport version for 26k, no it’s not worth $12k for the upgrade.
My only concern is that I’m 50. Due old people like me sport something like a Miata. Most likely I’ll buy one next year including the extra package
Sure and your not old!
I had a 2020, which I got rid of because of damage caused by a road hazard, but looking into buying another in the next week or so. The WRX that I replaced it with just isn't the same. And I'm nearly 65!
50 and the Miata is still great to me, I’m one of the youngest members of my Miata club group! It’s not as easy to get In and out of anymore and I would not daily drive it, but it’s so fantastic to have it when I want it.
Old people? 56 and loving my 300 whp 2018 Club. 😂
Not for me. I think $4500 is a bit too expensive for the modest upgrades you get. Honestly, the Recaro seats are the only part I'd want. The Brembo brakes and BBS wheels don't bring much in the way of performance to the table, although they do look good. I'm planning to purchase a ND3 GT soft top, which has quite a few nice features over the Club, and use the money I save to upgrade the suspension, which is the only upgrade the car really needs. Honestly, I don't understand why so many people flock the Club with performance pack, given its much higher cost and diminishing value when compared to the GT.
Ok i thought the GT came with sport suspension standard now.
@@CarGuy11 Yes, the GT gets everything the standard Club gets (Bilstein dampers, LSD, strut brace, etc) but there are many aftermarket coilovers available that perform far better than stock in all driving situations. If I could get a GT with the Recaro seats and upgrade the dampers, I'd be very happy.
lol, already ordered it.
Nice!
Nope, it would all be replaced anyway.
It is worth it if u have an extra 4.5k to burn. Me no.
That’s fair.