Personally philosophy helped me so much because I tend to overthink all the time. I am always thinking about something so having knowledge in philosophy allowed me to filter my thoughts and get the upper hand over the destructive ones
For me your point just clarifies your lack of understanding of philosophy. The assumption of “philosophy is only useful for introspection and thinking and has little to no use in reality” is an evidence of a modern misconception that affects our world nowadays. Originally, philosophy was always a tool for real world use, but as the time passed (specially with modern and contemporary philosophy) this sense started to lose itself. The decaying of the west is literally a consequence of the practice of a philosophy, and its exactly when people dont understand that ideas has consequences that events like this happens. I agree with you that wisdom without action is meaningless, but teleologically philosophy was never supposed to be like that. Bad philosophy has no use in real world, but not all of it.
I don’t think it has no use in reality, but I think it can not be used as a tool for self help. People tend to think they make progress by exploring philosophy but it won’t help you make progress unless you actually do the work that needs to be done.
@@bridgesyt Oh, alright. I agree with that. But when you say "I think it can not be used as a tool for self help" aren't you assuming that things you can learn in Philosophy are not useful to better yourself / your life? The thing is: if you don't practice what you learned, it has no use in fact. So, if you don't take action over the knowledge you got, its meaningless. But I don't think its correct to assume that it cannot be used as a tool for self help. It cannot be used as a tool for self help if you just read and don't do shit about it. Ideas shape and always shaped the world.
You’re right, but even if you have the greatest idea in the world it’s worth nothing if you don’t put it to action. That happens a lot, with people who explore philosophy and find satisfaction in it and think they make progress without putting it to action.
@@bridgesyt You can literally apply the idea of usefulness being in the action of anything Money is not useful if all it does is sit in your bank account A car is not useful if it just sits in your drive-way shoes are not useful if you do not wear them I could go to college for anything and get every single degree in the world but what use is it if I do not actually apply it to anything I do not think I have every seen a Philosophy that said just think and never do never change The understanding of what to do how to do it and why to do it IS Philosophy to me but maybe i have the wrong interpretation
@@bridgesytI fail to understand how thoughts without action make the thought inherently wrong. Some ideologies have the particularity to demobilize by “curing the symptoms without curing the disease”, but that’s only a subset. In general, the thoughts are what guide the following actions, so what’s wrong here exactly? Having a view of the world influenced by such and such philosophy is already huge given that our tools of analysis become our modes of operation.
Meditations - MA ! Best book I've read, changed my life and mind forever and no I feel more fit within thr modern world. Not only fit but able to manipulate thanks to the knowledge
"Why do these arguments keep going; even if they raise questions that are impossible ever finally to resolve? The reason is that we live some answer to these questions all the time. In our public life, and in our personal lives, philosophy is inescapable, even if it sometimes seems impossible." -Michael Sandel
very true. personally has happened to me. thinking about everything isn't really practical- esp when you fall into this "idk and that's ok mindset" where you're not even finding something true you're just observing- so what's the point? i don want opinions i want straight up what is the truth. philosophy though can be helpful. stoicism is a wonderful way to look at life. this is the type of thinking i normally cater to- looking at the sky and being grateful for its beauty. not endless dialogues on online forums about nietchze or kant... though another benefit of philosophy-it has taught me to argue and be logical.
Great analyze and I like how rarely anyone speak about this but you did point out better than most people but there's one point I want to address is that when you said "it rarely give us the tools to move forward, reflection has it limits and when used as as substitute for action, it becomes a barrier to progress" For what I can tell is that reflection is also an action on it's own and can be use to understand yourself better and thus...helping us find the right pattern and a standard to do almost anything in life. Like wise there is a quote that you mentioned in the video "I think, therefore I am" in the most specify way is that everything that live also think...An insect think what can they eat and which predator to run away from which identify their own self. And I think it's better to interpret that Philosophy is just a way of living itself rather than a waste of time and energy contributing nothing to outside world. Philosophers spend all their day thinking because they are the best at it and they don't expect others to think all day like them, they expect others to live in an accordance based on their own moral standard. Thinking will only becomes a barrier to progress if no action is taken (true) But living without a clue or moment of clarity about what how you truly are designed for will only make us a nobody that know what the existential thought of what it means to live, we are differ from other living being because of it.
Funny thing is that this video is just going to make me think more, and overthink about how my overthinking is paralyzing me. It’s like a self inflicted prison.
This has been my belief for the last year towards philosophy and philosophers. I am a communist, a political agitator, and right now I’m studying law because I want to actively change the systemic injustices in the world. Yes one needs to have a firm grasp on reality, their material conditions and those around them, an understanding of how the world and global economy works (including that of imperialism) but my friends who studied philosophy are pretty much just alcoholics who profess shit and do nothing. I’m so tired of fake and disingenuous academia. We need to be real with ourselves. We need to acknowledge where our goods and services are coming from and how a large majority come from over-exploited peoples and nations and we need to make a change.
Your position is literally rooted in a Philosophy, and a bad one. You are just another good example of why studying philosophy. If you don’t understand it, you are just a slave to any ideology.
@@Fireneedsair bro. Really think. How can you call the belief that the means of production being collectively owned by the people of society opposed to a few oligarchs who do anything and everything to maximize profits including but not limited to: exploitation, subjugation, enslavement, genocide, ecocide, coup de tats, etc. a “corrupt ideology.” You really think the system we have currently, capitalism, which has not only allowed, but perpetuated blatant government corruption and the subjugation of the masses is not a corrupt ideology? If you were to think critically, and perhaps read books, you’d realize the fact that the people have no say what is produced is actively destroying the planet. The US spends half of our budget on military production, which in turn forces the rest of the world to compete and spend massive amounts of finite resources on weapons of mass destruction which cumulatively means that a third, if not more, of our earths finite resources are going towards war and murder opposed to investing in what would advance humanity. The pure ideological form of communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society in which people cooperate towards the furtherment of society, meanwhile, the core concept of capitalism is competition. I swear if you’re actually watching philosophy videos and still thinking so surface level, there might actually be no hope for you. If that is the case, I’m sorry for our future.
@@Fireneedsairngl this comment really did frustrate me, like bro what do you do that is trying to better the world? Do you participate in local government? Do you feed homeless? Do you volunteer? I speak about communism because I care about others and want to live in a more caring world, but yet you say it’s a corrupt ideology? Why? What leads you to that? Have you read Marx? Have you heard or read any modern communist scholars? The communists are the front line against the injustice in Palestine! We are the forefront against colonialism and imperialism but yet we are corrupt? Come on bruh, do better. I left another comment and it appears that it was deleted. If that’s the case I am truly saddened as I liked this channel. I can’t imagine a philosopher silencing someone who spent the time to engage in constructive dialogue on their page so I hope my assumption is wrong. But as it seems to have been deleted whether by this channel whom I’m subscribed to or TH-cam or not, again the root belief of communism is the struggle for a moneyless borderless classless society in which everyone cooperates for the furtherment of society. Capitalisms core is competition. The withholding of x (whether it be resources or information) for the furtherment of an individual. The ruling class would rather spend all of our earths finite resources on war and bloodshed to maintain their hegemony than give even an inkling of power to the working class people. Capitalism is a blatantly corrupt ideology and it shows when you take one glance at the leaders of capitalist countries like in the US. The corruption is blatant. Get real.
@@harrygains2642 I don’t engage in stupid ideologies that have KILLED tens of millions . You ain’t bettering the world thru COMMUNISM. You are obviously a young FOOL. I better the world by seeing it as it and responding correctly. Stop wasting your life with a FAILED DISGRACED ideology before you lecture me child
I have to say it, philosophy is not a comfort of words,its a logic by perspective to understanding how and why works, people have different perspectives making different philosophy and thats totally alright,its actually better so we understand how life work in certain perspectives so we then can make ourselves logics,theres never right or wrong in philosophy as many people say
Siddartha, a philosophical novel by Herman Hesse goes into how reasoning that our desires are bad, treating our senses as distracting illusions, and trying to escape from the vessel that carries our soul is lowkey bullshit. It’s philosophy that goes against the specific sector of philosophy that you’re addressing. Does that still make it bullshit?
Philosophy is nothing more than bitter personal experience and literal intellect recorded on paper as the alcohol begins to take effect and the word salad begins to flow. Alan Watts is a prime example.
About halfway through the video and I can tell it’s unlikely you’ve actually read many philosophers. Aristotle and Seneca are two philosophers I could easily name of the top of my head that argued philosophy is useless without action. Your understanding of Socrates is pretty shallow as well. Very poor understanding of philosophy in general
Philosophy often, more often than not, turns into intellectual vanity and serves no purpose after that. Also in my view If you havent achieved anything in life you have no busniess asking questions about the meaning of life.
Philosophy of one's dictate their psychology thus every single action they take. So yeah I personally know so many individuals who claim their lives changed drastically by adopting a novel philosophy into their mind and life alike. Another one of the AI voiced channels, scripted by some other AI.
Personally philosophy helped me so much because I tend to overthink all the time. I am always thinking about something so having knowledge in philosophy allowed me to filter my thoughts and get the upper hand over the destructive ones
tats great for u, how do beginners get started? I also overthink a lot, which philosophy books do u recommend?
i plus this @@rabinrai5203
if philosophy offers comfort, you're practicing it wrong
For me your point just clarifies your lack of understanding of philosophy. The assumption of “philosophy is only useful for introspection and thinking and has little to no use in reality” is an evidence of a modern misconception that affects our world nowadays. Originally, philosophy was always a tool for real world use, but as the time passed (specially with modern and contemporary philosophy) this sense started to lose itself. The decaying of the west is literally a consequence of the practice of a philosophy, and its exactly when people dont understand that ideas has consequences that events like this happens. I agree with you that wisdom without action is meaningless, but teleologically philosophy was never supposed to be like that. Bad philosophy has no use in real world, but not all of it.
I don’t think it has no use in reality, but I think it can not be used as a tool for self help. People tend to think they make progress by exploring philosophy but it won’t help you make progress unless you actually do the work that needs to be done.
@@bridgesyt Oh, alright. I agree with that. But when you say "I think it can not be used as a tool for self help" aren't you assuming that things you can learn in Philosophy are not useful to better yourself / your life? The thing is: if you don't practice what you learned, it has no use in fact. So, if you don't take action over the knowledge you got, its meaningless. But I don't think its correct to assume that it cannot be used as a tool for self help. It cannot be used as a tool for self help if you just read and don't do shit about it. Ideas shape and always shaped the world.
You’re right, but even if you have the greatest idea in the world it’s worth nothing if you don’t put it to action.
That happens a lot, with people who explore philosophy and find satisfaction in it and think they make progress without putting it to action.
@@bridgesyt You can literally apply the idea of usefulness being in the action of anything
Money is not useful if all it does is sit in your bank account
A car is not useful if it just sits in your drive-way
shoes are not useful if you do not wear them
I could go to college for anything and get every single degree in the world
but what use is it if I do not actually apply it to anything
I do not think I have every seen a Philosophy that said just think and never do
never change
The understanding of what to do
how to do it
and why to do it IS Philosophy to me but maybe i have the wrong interpretation
@@bridgesytI fail to understand how thoughts without action make the thought inherently wrong. Some ideologies have the particularity to demobilize by “curing the symptoms without curing the disease”, but that’s only a subset. In general, the thoughts are what guide the following actions, so what’s wrong here exactly? Having a view of the world influenced by such and such philosophy is already huge given that our tools of analysis become our modes of operation.
Meditations - MA ! Best book I've read, changed my life and mind forever and no I feel more fit within thr modern world. Not only fit but able to manipulate thanks to the knowledge
"Why do these arguments keep going; even if they raise questions that are impossible ever finally to resolve? The reason is that we live some answer to these questions all the time. In our public life, and in our personal lives, philosophy is inescapable, even if it sometimes seems impossible."
-Michael Sandel
Philosophy has comforted me,destroyed me,built me,and provided me great wisdom to do many things but yes I agree we must think and then act.
Thats a very good philosophy man
@@nerdakash4920 Thank you my friend!
very true. personally has happened to me. thinking about everything isn't really practical- esp when you fall into this "idk and that's ok mindset" where you're not even finding something true you're just observing- so what's the point? i don want opinions i want straight up what is the truth.
philosophy though can be helpful. stoicism is a wonderful way to look at life. this is the type of thinking i normally cater to- looking at the sky and being grateful for its beauty. not endless dialogues on online forums about nietchze or kant...
though another benefit of philosophy-it has taught me to argue and be logical.
Great analyze and I like how rarely anyone speak about this but you did point out better than most people but there's one point I want to address is that when you said "it rarely give us the tools to move forward, reflection has it limits and when used as as substitute for action, it becomes a barrier to progress"
For what I can tell is that reflection is also an action on it's own and can be use to understand yourself better and thus...helping us find the right pattern and a standard to do almost anything in life.
Like wise there is a quote that you mentioned in the video "I think, therefore I am" in the most specify way is that everything that live also think...An insect think what can they eat and which predator to run away from which identify their own self. And I think it's better to interpret that Philosophy is just a way of living itself rather than a waste of time and energy contributing nothing to outside world. Philosophers spend all their day thinking because they are the best at it and they don't expect others to think all day like them, they expect others to live in an accordance based on their own moral standard.
Thinking will only becomes a barrier to progress if no action is taken (true)
But living without a clue or moment of clarity about what how you truly are designed for will only make us a nobody that know what the existential thought of what it means to live, we are differ from other living being because of it.
Funny thing is that this video is just going to make me think more, and overthink about how my overthinking is paralyzing me. It’s like a self inflicted prison.
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Philosophy is often selfhelp. Think about aristoteles
So essentially, it's not bullshit, it's just that people dont take the action of implementing the philosophy in their day to day lives.
This has been my belief for the last year towards philosophy and philosophers. I am a communist, a political agitator, and right now I’m studying law because I want to actively change the systemic injustices in the world. Yes one needs to have a firm grasp on reality, their material conditions and those around them, an understanding of how the world and global economy works (including that of imperialism) but my friends who studied philosophy are pretty much just alcoholics who profess shit and do nothing. I’m so tired of fake and disingenuous academia. We need to be real with ourselves. We need to acknowledge where our goods and services are coming from and how a large majority come from over-exploited peoples and nations and we need to make a change.
Your position is literally rooted in a Philosophy, and a bad one. You are just another good example of why studying philosophy. If you don’t understand it, you are just a slave to any ideology.
Well buddy I’d rather be a philosopher than a commie. At least philosophy is not a corrupt ideology
@@Fireneedsair bro. Really think. How can you call the belief that the means of production being collectively owned by the people of society opposed to a few oligarchs who do anything and everything to maximize profits including but not limited to: exploitation, subjugation, enslavement, genocide, ecocide, coup de tats, etc. a “corrupt ideology.” You really think the system we have currently, capitalism, which has not only allowed, but perpetuated blatant government corruption and the subjugation of the masses is not a corrupt ideology? If you were to think critically, and perhaps read books, you’d realize the fact that the people have no say what is produced is actively destroying the planet. The US spends half of our budget on military production, which in turn forces the rest of the world to compete and spend massive amounts of finite resources on weapons of mass destruction which cumulatively means that a third, if not more, of our earths finite resources are going towards war and murder opposed to investing in what would advance humanity. The pure ideological form of communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society in which people cooperate towards the furtherment of society, meanwhile, the core concept of capitalism is competition. I swear if you’re actually watching philosophy videos and still thinking so surface level, there might actually be no hope for you. If that is the case, I’m sorry for our future.
@@Fireneedsairngl this comment really did frustrate me, like bro what do you do that is trying to better the world? Do you participate in local government? Do you feed homeless? Do you volunteer? I speak about communism because I care about others and want to live in a more caring world, but yet you say it’s a corrupt ideology? Why? What leads you to that? Have you read Marx? Have you heard or read any modern communist scholars? The communists are the front line against the injustice in Palestine! We are the forefront against colonialism and imperialism but yet we are corrupt? Come on bruh, do better. I left another comment and it appears that it was deleted. If that’s the case I am truly saddened as I liked this channel. I can’t imagine a philosopher silencing someone who spent the time to engage in constructive dialogue on their page so I hope my assumption is wrong. But as it seems to have been deleted whether by this channel whom I’m subscribed to or TH-cam or not, again the root belief of communism is the struggle for a moneyless borderless classless society in which everyone cooperates for the furtherment of society. Capitalisms core is competition. The withholding of x (whether it be resources or information) for the furtherment of an individual. The ruling class would rather spend all of our earths finite resources on war and bloodshed to maintain their hegemony than give even an inkling of power to the working class people. Capitalism is a blatantly corrupt ideology and it shows when you take one glance at the leaders of capitalist countries like in the US. The corruption is blatant. Get real.
@@harrygains2642 I don’t engage in stupid ideologies that have KILLED tens of millions . You ain’t bettering the world thru COMMUNISM. You are obviously a young FOOL. I better the world by seeing it as it and responding correctly. Stop wasting your life with a FAILED DISGRACED ideology before you lecture me child
I have to say it, philosophy is not a comfort of words,its a logic by perspective to understanding how and why works, people have different perspectives making different philosophy and thats totally alright,its actually better so we understand how life work in certain perspectives so we then can make ourselves logics,theres never right or wrong in philosophy as many people say
Siddartha, a philosophical novel by Herman Hesse goes into how reasoning that our desires are bad, treating our senses as distracting illusions, and trying to escape from the vessel that carries our soul is lowkey bullshit. It’s philosophy that goes against the specific sector of philosophy that you’re addressing. Does that still make it bullshit?
Philosophy is nothing more than bitter personal experience and literal intellect recorded on paper as the alcohol begins to take effect and the word salad begins to flow.
Alan Watts is a prime example.
I don't understand myself 😢
About halfway through the video and I can tell it’s unlikely you’ve actually read many philosophers. Aristotle and Seneca are two philosophers I could easily name of the top of my head that argued philosophy is useless without action. Your understanding of Socrates is pretty shallow as well. Very poor understanding of philosophy in general
Quite good. Explains my life…
no way this is a real video 😭
Its ludicrous how philosophy has been romanticized. It no longer is a " Path to wisdom " but the total opposite.
Philosophy often, more often than not, turns into intellectual vanity and serves no purpose after that. Also in my view If you havent achieved anything in life you have no busniess asking questions about the meaning of life.
Philosophy of one's dictate their psychology thus every single action they take. So yeah I personally know so many individuals who claim their lives changed drastically by adopting a novel philosophy into their mind and life alike.
Another one of the AI voiced channels, scripted by some other AI.
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