Blue shirt's toss is hypnotic! It memorizes me when he tosses it for some reason-great job to both of you. I'm sure in the present day, you guys probably are 4.0+ now.
Thank you, Meike - I actually was even thinking of that exact point earlier today. My forehand motion at the time of this video was more natural than it is now; I could maybe even take a few notes from my past self here.
Guy in blue gets to the ball in time, then doesnt give himself enough room to hit a clear shot.. makes it very hard for himself. Very nice technique the guy in red has. Beautiful serve.
Red shirt left handed player is definitely the better all around player. If not a full on 4.0 almost there. Blue shirt can put the ball in play well. Has his own made up technique for almost every shot. Serve is weak, forehand way too close to the ball every time, backhand path for both slice and top spin is just weird. These guys look like they are having a good time though, and that’s what matters the most.
Yeah blue shirt could do with several coaching sessions, especially on serve. It’s all arm for blue shirt, he needs to coil and release more from the shoulder. His technique is letting him down by pushing the ball back without adding interest. Red shirt clearly has had coaching. Of course great to have the players down on the court hitting balls!
Wow, a fun observation. I spent years in drum corps/marching band, where we had to train often in ballet and dance. And I continue to train acrobatics (tricking), as I have for the last ten years. th-cam.com/video/e_Xwfe0VzVg/w-d-xo.html I struggly immensely with spatial awareness and control of small muscles, which hurts me often in tennis, but those pre-existing skillsets have been a good springboard.
So true, I watched this and there was definitely less tennis-like movement being done yet smooth and controlled, dance perfectly matches. By how an experienced tennis player looks it is off but by how someone that moves in ballet it matches.
This reminds me of my club where you here stuff like 'oh my god my racket was in the wrong place' and 'nice shot'...'actually it was off the frame' lol.
your backhand is sometimes a bit weird but hey if it aint broke :D your forehand is really nice reminds me of Nadal/Federer Hybrid. The Voley and Serve i was impressed looks almost pro level when hit right
never saw two mimos playing tennis that well. Btw, the red guy is clearly on another level thant the blue one. i'll say 3.5+ and the blue is arould 2.5
The blue shirt is lower in ranking. His grip was problematic. But he was very fit and had good sense of the ball so he was in good position most of the time. The red had better training in all shots, from serves to forehand, backhand and volley.
Blue: definitely not a consistent 3.5+, weak 3.5 with a 2.0 serve. Red: serve is 4.5ish, forehand 4.0, backhand as aesthetic as inconsistent 3.0 (I really like how it looks).
really , you look like 4.0 and he the 3.5, if that's the case , once you get the consistency, you'll be a tough cause your very athletic and long limbed, got a nice serve, get to the net quick.
this looks like more like a swordfight than tennis :) jk, good match, i love how recreational players always make some cool improvisations on serve , just like your opponent
I have a great forehand, but my other shots are not that good. After recording myself I was shocked how bad my backhand and my service look. My forehand however looked exactly how I thought it would.
Red shirt has good all around skills. Guys in my league rushed the net a lot this summer and it really is a problem for us baseliners. In fact it's a good way for crappy players to get points. This guy though could hit too.
Guy in blue has no racket drop, a very common problem because you can not see that motion. You need a coach to fix it. Good 3.5 tennis, looks like fun,this is my level.
@@SeireaTennis How long have you been playing? With a little bit more consistency you will start beating these pushers pretty easily. You def have the game to improve. I would just say stay HYPER aggressive on the returns no matter what when plying a pusher like that. Just keep practicing pounding those returns, and you will soon be hitting a ton of return winners. honestly he should win zero service games :)
@@ashleywalls4097 Been playing for 2.5 years now. Consistency is definitely the key word! Lacking fundamentals BIG TIME, so I often have no idea what I'm actually doing in any swing; just praying. Lots of work to do! Thank you.
DayJhreaming ok start with cross court depth. Work the ball cross court and deep until you get the short ball. Then attack to the weakness. So to attack a weakness you must know the weakness. This probing should start in warmups. Work both forehand and backhand in warmups. Try to find any chink in the armor then work hard to exploit. A lot of tennis is attacking your opponents weakness and defending yours.
Hey, I'm glad it's to your liking. I use a Canon T6i with stock lens, at the widest setting (18mm, I believe). I record at 720p, 60fps. I also use a camera fence mount, which allows one to hook the camera onto the top of any tennis park fence.
Possibly the strangest serve I've seen in a while from the man in blue. I'm not sure how that happened. In any case, he needs to learn a proper serve motion. He will always be limited by that wrist twirling serve. He will never generate pace or control. Also, he needs to use is off arm to give himself range on his forehand. Also, he needs to uncoil on his forehand. He isn't using his body at all on most shots.
1. Backslide slice of Red Guy, has too much Hook in the Backswing.... The racquet scoops all under the ball as a result and lifts it up in the air resulting in a weak slice that sits up in the court. He will find out against higher level players who hit faster heavier drives, that the ball will just sit up in the court and fall short. 2. Tapping short balls on the run does not always work. Drive through them. Aim for the Netcord. Stop all this weak tapping. 2. Serve of Blue guy needs fixing up. Its not correct. He swings up the ball. He should switch to swinging the racquet right to left instead of lifting the racquet up and tapping the serve in, he hasn't got a proper serve.. But look at 5.11 at this Forehand that he hits, from the corner. A penetrating flat drive. I would've done this with the Reverse Finish rather than using the normal flat finish to put more spin on the ball . But he can drive the forehand flat. when he wants to. A weak backhand slice that scoops all under the ball and lifts it up too high in the air, the Red Guy has a much more improved version of the scoop slice.]
Two pros who evaluated me recently agreed that it'd be best to match me at 3.5, because despite my horrendous inconsistency, 3.0s would probably look at my form and be intimidated. Thus I'm matched with 3.5s and usually lose, which I don't mind at all...I crave to hit with players better than me. I keep videos with this length and content because I've worried that they'd be unwatchable otherwise. However, your comment feeds my fear that the content is gross misrepresentation, so coming soon are videos where I'll be including more errors, as I focus the videos toward specific things I'm working on. I do take this as a compliment though; I'm glad the highlights look good!
I hear you. If u just started playing tennis around 4-5 years ago and tried to learn the game instead of just playing the ball in, this will happen. I did get beat up at 3.5 by a lot of players who are pretty good but with awkward techniques. N always were told by the opponents that I am no 3.5. So I guess the only way to get better is to play more and respect everyone's game.
New balls. He hit incredibly flat during this time, and his serve barely clears the net with no topspin. I also usually hit quite flat; I don't trust my fast-racquethead spin production yet, especially on the forehand side.
@@germanslice Got news for u. We are so skewed by pro serve speed. 50 is actually pretty fast for 4.0 and lower. Try and get to a speed gun. U'l be shocked at how slow we hit vs the pros.
@@regularmouse4230 If you channel that power into a right swing path and extremely good court tactics, no matter how consistent a dude can be, he has a very high chance of not hitting the ball at all.
That’s not true. The guy in red is definitely 3.5 and if he just went out and hit a lot of balls and worked with a coach, he’d be 4.5 in no time with a few wins. The other guy, you would be correct.
Blue shirt's toss is hypnotic! It memorizes me when he tosses it for some reason-great job to both of you. I'm sure in the present day, you guys probably are 4.0+ now.
It's like he's casting a spell. Summoning some angels or something.
its rather utterly annoying to see. What does he believe he does? 😆 No offense meant, I know it's on me... but can't change it. 😅
0:37 I'd look up at the camera too; =D
Was thinking the same thing 😂
Great serve plus one pattern at 2:45. Wide serve to open the court and then nice job using your forehand to open backhand side!
Thank you, Meike - I actually was even thinking of that exact point earlier today. My forehand motion at the time of this video was more natural than it is now; I could maybe even take a few notes from my past self here.
@@SeireaTennis never mess what works??
Guy in blue gets to the ball in time, then doesnt give himself enough room to hit a clear shot.. makes it very hard for himself. Very nice technique the guy in red has. Beautiful serve.
Nice attacking style. Great game.
Red shirt left handed player is definitely the better all around player. If not a full on 4.0 almost there. Blue shirt can put the ball in play well. Has his own made up technique for almost every shot. Serve is weak, forehand way too close to the ball every time, backhand path for both slice and top spin is just weird. These guys look like they are having a good time though, and that’s what matters the most.
Yeah blue shirt could do with several coaching sessions, especially on serve. It’s all arm for blue shirt, he needs to coil and release more from the shoulder. His technique is letting him down by pushing the ball back without adding interest. Red shirt clearly has had coaching.
Of course great to have the players down on the court hitting balls!
Red shirt is barely a 3.5 lmao. He has no power and he can’t end points well. Not even close to 4.0
@@yashpujara9468 right
@@yashpujara9468I don’t know where you play but where I play he would be a VERY strong 3.5, almost 4.0
the red guy far better beyond 3.5
Question: have you ever trained in classical dance/ballet? They way you move and carry your shoulders is very "aligned" and it reminds me of dancers.
Wow, a fun observation. I spent years in drum corps/marching band, where we had to train often in ballet and dance. And I continue to train acrobatics (tricking), as I have for the last ten years. th-cam.com/video/e_Xwfe0VzVg/w-d-xo.html
I struggly immensely with spatial awareness and control of small muscles, which hurts me often in tennis, but those pre-existing skillsets have been a good springboard.
So true, I watched this and there was definitely less tennis-like movement being done yet smooth and controlled, dance perfectly matches. By how an experienced tennis player looks it is off but by how someone that moves in ballet it matches.
This reminds me of my club where you here stuff like 'oh my god my racket was in the wrong place' and 'nice shot'...'actually it was off the frame' lol.
I enjoyed the match a lot ! loved how u ran for those drop shots i love that desire to win
beautiful courts
your backhand is sometimes a bit weird but hey if it aint broke :D your forehand is really nice reminds me of Nadal/Federer Hybrid. The Voley and Serve i was impressed looks almost pro level when hit right
looked like a fun game. thumbs up :)
never saw two mimos playing tennis that well. Btw, the red guy is clearly on another level thant the blue one. i'll say 3.5+ and the blue is arould 2.5
Good match, guys. Both of you hits some very good shots, winners even.
The blue shirt is lower in ranking. His grip was problematic. But he was very fit and had good sense of the ball so he was in good position most of the time. The red had better training in all shots, from serves to forehand, backhand and volley.
Blue: definitely not a consistent 3.5+, weak 3.5 with a 2.0 serve.
Red: serve is 4.5ish, forehand 4.0, backhand as aesthetic as inconsistent 3.0 (I really like how it looks).
That’s not a 4.5 serve.
hey nice play! keep up the good tennis!
Red shirt’s serve is way better than the rest of his game
Agreed.
Nice match!! You have good ground strokes
redshirt guy has good snap shot forehand
blueshirt guy has a frikin benoit paire forehand
Good analogy! 👍👍👏👏🎾🎾
Amazing game guys. Thanks for your efforts 👍
Guy in blue must be the Salt Bae of tennis serving, trying to sprinkle some spin on the ball before launching it...
really , you look like 4.0 and he the 3.5, if that's the case , once you get the consistency, you'll be a tough cause your very athletic and long limbed, got a nice serve, get to the net quick.
he certainly is not a 4.0
Meh, really impossible to tell based only on highlights
Red is strong 3.5(perhaps weak 4.0). Blue is average 3.0.
1:30 wtf is that serving motion? 😂
Btw that guy needs a vibration dampener in his racquet asap, the sound is horrible
And he needs to replace the cheap strings that came in that microgel reissue...
No racquet drop on the serve is very common, watch any public court.
@@info781 It's not even about the lack of racket drop, the start of the motion is fast but then becomes slow right before hitting XD
@@recolinotyu Agreed, he brings the arm up but does not bend the elbow to swing the racquet around, he flicks it with he wrist.
😂😂 I thought the same exact thing at time.
Nice match gentlemen!! 👍👍👍👏👏👏🎾🎾🎾🎾
this looks like more like a swordfight than tennis :) jk, good match, i love how recreational players always make some cool improvisations on serve , just like your opponent
you guys have unusual ground strokes
I love the guy in red’s clothes - those pants look hilarious! Oh and what happens with his leg on his 2nd serve? Looks like some kind of kung fu move!
Lol the entire video looks like a skit
@@judgeprime3730Ha ha, yeah
I’m 3.5, so in reality I’m this bad?? Cause I’m my mind I feel like I look like Djokovic
Try vidding yourself. That's a real eye opener. Vid slows things WAAAY down. U'l b shocked
We imagine ourselves as slower versions of the pros, but we are not.
I have a great forehand, but my other shots are not that good. After recording myself I was shocked how bad my backhand and my service look. My forehand however looked exactly how I thought it would.
Lmao same
The dude in red is between a solid 3.5-4.0. Back hand needs a bit of improvement and he's a 4.0. Great foundation
Love your backhand, it's like a Shapovalov and Henin hybid
That is a hell of a compliment, holy cow. Thank you.
Is the court wet?
dude you were way higher than 3.5. I considered myself a 3.5 and when i saw the way you play i got sad :D
Saw the beautiful color of those trees and knew it was only a matter of time before a leafblower fired up. Isn't that a shame
Red has a really good serve motion.
Blue shirt guy has a funky serve motion.
Red shirt has good all around skills. Guys in my league rushed the net a lot this summer and it really is a problem for us baseliners. In fact it's a good way for crappy players to get points. This guy though could hit too.
the strokes are weird but surprisingly effective
Where is this park? Looks nice and, more importantly, has empty courts.
red is a federer fan for sure
Shocking tennis
guy in Red plays very nice. I am a 4.5 and I wish i had his volleys.
Reds aggression makes him clearly better than blue, he’s a 4.0 IMO. Blue is who I am now at 3.5, red is who I’m trying to change my game to be like
Blue shirt is consistently jammed on the forehand, hitting it too close to the body
Guy in blue has no racket drop, a very common problem because you can not see that motion. You need a coach to fix it. Good 3.5 tennis, looks like fun,this is my level.
even if it's highlight you look more 4.0 than 3.5 :) nice play
in cali, this is what 3.5 looks like. Everyone is sandbagging honestly.
@@agrious39 Although vid slow things way down. Everyone is better than vids show. I play 4.5 in Los Angeles. These guys look solid 3.5 to 4.0 to me.
@@Bubbles99718 agreed
@@patrickjmoynihan thx
So who is supposed to be the power 3.5 and consistent 3.5+ here? I guess if full match was shown it could be more apparent.
03:56 that ball bounced twice
Red has a solid overall game and particularly good volley and serve skills
Looks good
Who won?
Blue shirt dominated me, as is the continuing norm!
@@SeireaTennis How long have you been playing? With a little bit more consistency you will start beating these pushers pretty easily. You def have the game to improve. I would just say stay HYPER aggressive on the returns no matter what when plying a pusher like that. Just keep practicing pounding those returns, and you will soon be hitting a ton of return winners. honestly he should win zero service games :)
@@ashleywalls4097 Been playing for 2.5 years now. Consistency is definitely the key word! Lacking fundamentals BIG TIME, so I often have no idea what I'm actually doing in any swing; just praying. Lots of work to do! Thank you.
DayJhreaming ok start with cross court depth. Work the ball cross court and deep until you get the short ball. Then attack to the weakness. So to attack a weakness you must know the weakness. This probing should start in warmups. Work both forehand and backhand in warmups. Try to find any chink in the armor then work hard to exploit. A lot of tennis is attacking your opponents weakness and defending yours.
Clumsy footwork on blue shirt...need to b fleet footed. Red shirt uses split step nicely but still a bit heavy on the footwork.
Why doesn't the dude in blue ever lob it? loses so many points like this.
He's lobbing well these days
Didn't know Penn Jillette played tennis
look like 4.0 to me, though we aren't shown the dud points
3.0 vs 4.0
If he is a 3.5/4.0 I must be a 5.0! No way I’m losing to Michael Bolton’s nephew
Sounds like you’ll get disqualified soon for your sandbagging lol.
It’s a 3.5 usta not UTR. UTR he is a 5.0 or so.
I don't know what my rating is. I taught myself. But I think I can take those guys. Js
For 3.5 good points but I suggest you both work on backhands
What camera do you use for filming your tennis matches? The quality is extremely smooth and it's placed at the perfect angle.
Hey, I'm glad it's to your liking.
I use a Canon T6i with stock lens, at the widest setting (18mm, I believe). I record at 720p, 60fps.
I also use a camera fence mount, which allows one to hook the camera onto the top of any tennis park fence.
I think you are in 3.5 and blue one 3.0
Possibly the strangest serve I've seen in a while from the man in blue. I'm not sure how that happened. In any case, he needs to learn a proper serve motion. He will always be limited by that wrist twirling serve. He will never generate pace or control. Also, he needs to use is off arm to give himself range on his forehand. Also, he needs to uncoil on his forehand. He isn't using his body at all on most shots.
I feel like I was looking at a left-handed mirror image of myself!!!!! LOL
1. Backslide slice of Red Guy, has too much Hook in the Backswing.... The racquet scoops all under the ball as a result and
lifts it up in the air resulting in a weak slice that sits up in the court. He will find out against higher level players who hit faster heavier drives, that the ball will just sit up in the court and fall short.
2. Tapping short balls on the run does not always work. Drive through them. Aim for the Netcord. Stop all this weak tapping.
2. Serve of Blue guy needs fixing up. Its not correct. He swings up the ball. He should switch to swinging the racquet right to left instead of lifting the racquet up and tapping the serve in, he hasn't got a proper serve..
But look at 5.11 at this Forehand that he hits, from the corner. A penetrating flat drive. I would've done this with the Reverse Finish rather than using the normal flat finish to put more spin on the ball . But he can drive the forehand flat. when he wants to. A weak backhand slice that scoops all under the ball and lifts it up too high in the air, the Red Guy has a much more improved version of the scoop slice.]
You're sandbagging HARD at 3.5. Come on dude.
These are the best highlights. 70% of my points end with an error. Most 3.5s I'm matched with beat me.
Two pros who evaluated me recently agreed that it'd be best to match me at 3.5, because despite my horrendous inconsistency, 3.0s would probably look at my form and be intimidated. Thus I'm matched with 3.5s and usually lose, which I don't mind at all...I crave to hit with players better than me.
I keep videos with this length and content because I've worried that they'd be unwatchable otherwise. However, your comment feeds my fear that the content is gross misrepresentation, so coming soon are videos where I'll be including more errors, as I focus the videos toward specific things I'm working on.
I do take this as a compliment though; I'm glad the highlights look good!
I hear you. If u just started playing tennis around 4-5 years ago and tried to learn the game instead of just playing the ball in, this will happen. I did get beat up at 3.5 by a lot of players who are pretty good but with awkward techniques. N always were told by the opponents that I am no 3.5. So I guess the only way to get better is to play more and respect everyone's game.
@@SeireaTennis Hell, let it all hang out. It's fun to watch the different levels. 3.0 is ( almost) as fun to watch as 5.0's.
Simply the red is better.
I assume red shirt is the 4.0?
I was the red shirt, and I'm 3.5. He can keep the ball in, I...am working on it.
Agree with previous comment: you look the 4.0 technique wise, your opponent looks like a 3.0 (a mediocre one)
You sure you're just a 3.5? Looks like a 4.0 to me.
looks like a 3.0 vs a 3.5. the blue one lacks power and consistency... has difficulty with medium paced shots.
Is it me or does it seem like the balls are dead
New balls. He hit incredibly flat during this time, and his serve barely clears the net with no topspin. I also usually hit quite flat; I don't trust my fast-racquethead spin production yet, especially on the forehand side.
@@SeireaTennis The guy in blue's serve is only going about 50 mph or less, over the net its not exactly what I call a penetrating flat serve.
@@germanslice Got news for u. We are so skewed by pro serve speed. 50 is actually pretty fast for 4.0 and lower.
Try and get to a speed gun. U'l be shocked at how slow we hit vs the pros.
you're good bro, but why does he toss the ball like that. you could probably teach him.
No way red shirt is a 3.5, 4.0 everywhere in the world.
th-cam.com/video/gveHXxhITLk/w-d-xo.html
Not 3.5 - def 4.0
I feel bad for the guy on a blue shirt LOL
What the hell is he wearing
Both players slice with an eastern grip. This is an easy fix.
5:52 out
My level might be the blue one. But my serve is a bit better than him.
Blue shirt got no lob game...
Red is 4.0
Red is 4.0, easily
Power, if done right, outclasses consistency (soon).
Nope, entirely wrong
@@regularmouse4230 Nah nah, I prefer power any day lol
@@regularmouse4230 If you channel that power into a right swing path and extremely good court tactics, no matter how consistent a dude can be, he has a very high chance of not hitting the ball at all.
Trump vs Harris
Wow your backhand slice is atrocious. You need to fix that. Your other strokes are not bad.
I tought 3.5 players are strong, what i see is weak forehands , weak backhands, weak serves, my grandpa can beat them
2.5 v. 2.5
That’s not true. The guy in red is definitely 3.5 and if he just went out and hit a lot of balls and worked with a coach, he’d be 4.5 in no time with a few wins. The other guy, you would be correct.
@@chuckfriebe843 No. While I agree that he is 3.5+, getting to 4.5 is a BIG step up. It would take a Very dedicated year or even 3 to get there.
Nonsense. 3.5...one player a bit stronger.
@@Bubbles99718 perhaps
OMG these guys are so bad....why is this on TH-cam....?
This is 3.5 tennis.
For players like me to find their level hopefully without idiots dropping in to criticise.
Some people enjoy it. Feel free to watch the pros on TV if it isn't to your liking.
OMG JYD P you are an asshole. Tennis is not only for competition but also for fun