I would pay up to 200 or even 300 for a solid 4G feature phone. If it is a quality build, with GOOD camera, whatsapp, navigation, and all basic things provided.
@@UltimoGamesa good camera on a feature phone is pushing it my guy. It'll be bulky and hefty real quick. You are wishing for something you won't actually use 😑
Ordered one last week; it looks good! Got confirmation that it works on O2 in the UK (Band 20); looking forward to trying it out. I'd been suffering from smartphone addiction and wanted a good quality, reliable modern equivalent of my classic Nokia 3310. I find the negatives of a smartphone outweigh the benefits for me!
I'm in the same siuaton right now. HOw have you found using this device in the last year? Could you stick with it and did it help your digital addiction?
Hello i am here because i recognized your name from a link someone supplied me to check what feature phones are available on my carrier. you have been a huge help in my transition from a smart phone to feature phone. thank you!
I upgraded to this from a Nokia 6310 as this is 4g. Best phone I've ever owned. Little trick I've found to make the battery last for days one end. I work in a warehouse and we don't get signal inside the building. This phone features airplane mode. I use this often in areas where I either can't use my phone or it struggles with signal and I average a charge every week. Jus wish it u did email and TH-cam buts it is still a fine handset
Such a nice review. I knew 8210 is overall better phone than 5710 . But i still think 2660 flip is good phone than out of three. As it has sos and hearing aid features which is useful for kids and elderly people in a family and it can also be useful as secondary device for younger generation due to its flip action which looks awesome.
Yesss, I would like to use this as my main sim connected phone , and keep my old android smartphone like a mini tablet so Wi-Fi only, for the few apps I need but not available on the 8210’s OS. It would be perfect if I could just have ALL the apps as they’re very low bandwidth requirements and I don’t want to carry the darn smartphone at all, but second best thing would be just to piggyback on it’s connection 🙄
You should know that Nokia nowadays is not the same as it used to be. I got myself a Nokia 800 Tough, which they claim is built to military standards - waterproof, dustproof, and shockproof. But It didn't take long for it to stop turning on. I had to take it for repairs, they replaced the motherboard and battery. After just a month, it refused to turn on once again. Seriously, how can I trust the quality of this brand as before?
@@JoseBriones I just discovered that in the phone book, each contact can only record one telephone number, and it is even defaulted as "Mobile number," which cannot be changed.
Wondering about screen quality, how do you think it compares to the 225? I suspect the 225 and 5710 share the same screen, whereas the 8210 and 2660 have a nicer screen. I found the 225 to be pretty poor (even in this category).
When my cheap crappy budget smartphone died I got rid of it and bought a Nokia 8210 4G. I like it much better than the 1 Plus it replaced. I feel much better for not having a smartphone!
Thank you for the review. I looked at this phone however some amazon reviews said it never offered predicted text so put me off but now seeing your video has sold it me now. Thank you.
Excellent review as always, many thanks Jose Is it possible to delete pre-installed apps such as Facebook and can you install other apps such as Signal on Nokia S30+ devices? Thanks.
If this phone has 4G LTE why wouldn’t it work with US carriers? I’m in LOVE with Nokia’s throw back phones and I’m willing to buy one in a heartbeat if any of the carriers over here support them.
It’s due to the bands. The LTE bands from this phone are not supported in North America. Maybe one day we’ll have unified bands in different countries.
Did anyone call with it ? After 3 months with tests, I never heard that anyone has tried to call with it. How is the call quality compared to an android phone ?
These are the questions needed to be asked. Every single dumbphone, hmd global made, is made from the cheapest materials. The first thing i check when i buy a phone is how is the sound from ghe earpiece.. hmd global = utter BS. I have a cheap android only on 2G mode and the call quality is amazing. So it's not a network thing
Looks good, my fam had these once. Though, they could've just used the S60 or Belle versions, rather than the S30. I'm pretty sure I can buy something way better than this for cheaper, of the same kind. For below $20, I can already see several options that can match this thing.
@@JoseBriones need a hand ;-) how do you disable data on 8210 4g? I tried everything but i can't disable data without disabling the whole calling capability, i have a Plan only with calls and messages. Edit: found it, under sim cards, a Little counter intuitive
I'm just trying to frind out about the mp3 player interface. No reviewer has opened that app so far. How is your music organised? Can you make playlists and if so, is it fairly easy or rather tiresome?
@@bnstndrd I'd basically just want spotify, email, internet and a camera. + the standard alarms and timers. And yes, unfortunately not their business model. Their screen time thing is one password away to unlimited usage. They should have a cooldown or soemthing. I find deleting google and insta apps helps a lot. But after 15 years of behavioral conditioning, its hard to share the habbit
Does it have a Map app? Not that I want to watch TH-cam, but occasionally I might need to watch something for work. Can you watch TH-cam if needed? -Thank you!
Have you run into any problems with feature phones and updated sim cards? I can't seem to get 5g sim cards to work properly on these devices for some reason.
I had a call for 10 minutes. It’s very limited but for 2G, it was fine. I’d assume it would be better in 4G LTE environments. Sadly I can’t test that, other reviewers have and say that it has been 6-7/10 so I will defer to them on this one since my experience mirror that even on 2G for a 10 minute call.
Jose, this is unrelated to this video but I am trying to find a way to get in touch with you. I'm a software developer and I'm getting my mp02 this week. If you still want to/are working on an exploit to add maps, spotify and email to the device, let me know!
I assume KaiOS still haven't fixed their group texting issues since you didn't mention it. I know their workaround, but it's not very good. Fix group texting and these Nokia devices become a lot more useful IMHO.
1) No watsup so you cannot communicate with people abroad without paying money 2) Gmail doesn't work on mine says "connection failed" 3) No WiFi, so if you are in a country where you don't have a net-data plan, you cannot even send a short email. Older models of Nokia Dumbphones like 2720 outperform this one in every way. Big disappointment for me, as I still want a dumphone with watsup and gmail, and I don't need all these stupid games.
not worth it. cannot delete apps and i don't play games listen to radio etc. i just want to phone and message. it is not the kind of phone you want if all you want to do is phone and message. the radio sound frequently goes on, it is difficult to find my own phone number, a search for "me" doesn't work. messaging takes too long and to difficult to send anything but very short messages and for me too many useless apps is the biggest downfall--none of them are deletable.
@@81pieda nope, the Nokia 2760 came out in March. That’s hardly a sign that Nokia are ditching KaiOS. In fact the 2760 is exclusive for the US market and these 3 devices are not for the US market at all. So again, nothing like being a sign of abandoning KaiOS. That’s a bit like saying when the 2760 came out: ‘what, no S30+ devices? Nokia are clearly abandoning S30+’. Which you would know now is clearly ridiculous.
Im still waiting on a QWERTY dumb phone with WhatsApp
Blackberry key 2
Jio phone 2
I would pay up to 200 or even 300 for a solid 4G feature phone. If it is a quality build, with GOOD camera, whatsapp, navigation, and all basic things provided.
I am waiting too
@@UltimoGamesa good camera on a feature phone is pushing it my guy. It'll be bulky and hefty real quick. You are wishing for something you won't actually use 😑
Ordered one last week; it looks good! Got confirmation that it works on O2 in the UK (Band 20); looking forward to trying it out. I'd been suffering from smartphone addiction and wanted a good quality, reliable modern equivalent of my classic Nokia 3310. I find the negatives of a smartphone outweigh the benefits for me!
I'm in the same siuaton right now. HOw have you found using this device in the last year? Could you stick with it and did it help your digital addiction?
Same me 🙏🏻
Hello i am here because i recognized your name from a link someone supplied me to check what feature phones are available on my carrier. you have been a huge help in my transition from a smart phone to feature phone. thank you!
I upgraded to this from a Nokia 6310 as this is 4g. Best phone I've ever owned. Little trick I've found to make the battery last for days one end. I work in a warehouse and we don't get signal inside the building. This phone features airplane mode. I use this often in areas where I either can't use my phone or it struggles with signal and I average a charge every week. Jus wish it u did email and TH-cam buts it is still a fine handset
Its good they are still making good basic phones nowadays.
I am sure they will become mainstream again, smartphones are big, bulky, expensive, harmful, intrusive, clumsy, elusive..
Such a nice review. I knew 8210 is overall better phone than 5710 . But i still think 2660 flip is good phone than out of three. As it has sos and hearing aid features which is useful for kids and elderly people in a family and it can also be useful as secondary device for younger generation due to its flip action which looks awesome.
If this could hotspot I would buy it as my main device. It’s gorgeous and simple.
Yesss, I would like to use this as my main sim connected phone , and keep my old android smartphone like a mini tablet so Wi-Fi only, for the few apps I need but not available on the 8210’s OS. It would be perfect if I could just have ALL the apps as they’re very low bandwidth requirements and I don’t want to carry the darn smartphone at all, but second best thing would be just to piggyback on it’s connection 🙄
You should know that Nokia nowadays is not the same as it used to be. I got myself a Nokia 800 Tough, which they claim is built to military standards - waterproof, dustproof, and shockproof. But It didn't take long for it to stop turning on. I had to take it for repairs, they replaced the motherboard and battery. After just a month, it refused to turn on once again. Seriously, how can I trust the quality of this brand as before?
You can't. They are not the same and I have mentioned that in other videos.
@@JoseBriones I just discovered that in the phone book, each contact can only record one telephone number, and it is even defaulted as "Mobile number," which cannot be changed.
Thank you for all reviews.
Wondering about screen quality, how do you think it compares to the 225? I suspect the 225 and 5710 share the same screen, whereas the 8210 and 2660 have a nicer screen. I found the 225 to be pretty poor (even in this category).
The 225 is better than the 5710, but yes the 2660 and 8210 have better looking screens than the 225 and 5710.
@@JoseBriones appreciated!
I'm ditching my iPhone for the Nokia 8210 4G because I want to go back to basics and just have a basic phone for calling and texting nothing else
When my cheap crappy budget smartphone died I got rid of it and bought a Nokia 8210 4G. I like it much better than the 1 Plus it replaced. I feel much better for not having a smartphone!
i just need two devices with me, a feature phone and iPad.
I’m still using my 18yo N95 and nothing will get me to downgrade to a smartphone. I have a life to live.
Watching this video on my iPhone 14 pro max and thinking to get this phone🙂
Thank you for the review.
I looked at this phone however some amazon reviews said it never offered predicted text so put me off but now seeing your video has sold it me now.
Thank you.
Bring backs memories! 😅
Excellent review as always, many thanks Jose Is it possible to delete pre-installed apps such as Facebook and can you install other apps such as Signal on Nokia S30+ devices? Thanks.
No app installation or removing on this unit or any other S30+ devices.
Not mentioned in here but on the live stream, I like the new list version of the menu. That’s much nicer IMO.
Hi. Is it possible to block a number on this device? Like from a built-in option
hello jose, nice review. would you say this is the best s30 phone? is it better than 225 4g? thanks!
If this phone has 4G LTE why wouldn’t it work with US carriers? I’m in LOVE with Nokia’s throw back phones and I’m willing to buy one in a heartbeat if any of the carriers over here support them.
It’s due to the bands. The LTE bands from this phone are not supported in North America. Maybe one day we’ll have unified bands in different countries.
@@JoseBriones are they going to release a North American version of this phone?
@@JoseBriones the world seriously needs a one single standard band for hassle free product for mankind.
Thanks for the review José!
Hi! What is the set up of messages here? is it like a chat setting? or is it like the 6310?
thanks for the review Jose ! Do you know if this has VoWifi, or if any of the non-kai os nokia have VoWifi
No VoWifi sadly
I want a feature phone to be a flip phone. Flat/straight phones might be confusing for elder. Flip phone, at least it is easier to answer and hang up.
Check my latest review :)
@@JoseBriones hahaha yes, what a coincidence !
The 8110 4g didn't have the same plastic as the 90's version either, it was flimsy and the phone looked old quickly, I wasn't rough with it.
Thanks for video. Can the phone share Internet? Is there some sort of the USB tethering?
No tethering of any kind sadly.
How is the speaker of the phone? Thinking to a feature phone for listening music and normal use
7/10
Did anyone call with it ? After 3 months with tests, I never heard that anyone has tried to call with it. How is the call quality compared to an android phone ?
It's worst than an android phone. Call quality is 6/10 imo
@@JoseBriones Thank you Jose. I am deeply grateful for your reply. It comes at a great time. And it makes me very happy.
These are the questions needed to be asked. Every single dumbphone, hmd global made, is made from the cheapest materials. The first thing i check when i buy a phone is how is the sound from ghe earpiece.. hmd global = utter BS. I have a cheap android only on 2G mode and the call quality is amazing. So it's not a network thing
Looks good, my fam had these once. Though, they could've just used the S60 or Belle versions, rather than the S30. I'm pretty sure I can buy something way better than this for cheaper, of the same kind.
For below $20, I can already see several options that can match this thing.
Nokia 5710 Or Nokia 8210 Or Nokia 2660 flip, Which is better in terms of build quality, durability, Speaker, Voice Quality, Battery life
Is this going to be the 2023 version of this phone?
Probably not a 2023 version. This is it for this phone for a while.
@@JoseBriones is this the version from a few years ago then?
I like device but I'm sticking to my 215
I changed from 225 to 215 because I didn't like the buttons on 225
Hi, thanks for the video! What is the web browser version? Is it possible to order Uber via browser on it?
No uber sadly. It's opera mini and very slow
@@JoseBriones Is it the 4.4 mini opera version? And if so, is it possible to install on this phone and check if the opera mini 8 works?
How is audio call quality? Is it good ad i heard?.
How is it call-wise compared to nokia 6300 4g and Nokia 225 4g?
I’d say it’s a 6/10 or 7/10. Very comparable to the 225 4G or the 6300. A bit better speaker though.
@@JoseBriones feature phones that come close to a 8 or 9 on 10?
@@JoseBriones need a hand ;-) how do you disable data on 8210 4g? I tried everything but i can't disable data without disabling the whole calling capability, i have a Plan only with calls and messages.
Edit: found it, under sim cards, a Little counter intuitive
Can it be used as a WiFi hotspot?
No it cannot.
@@JoseBriones thank you. Can it be used for usb tethering?
I'm just trying to frind out about the mp3 player interface. No reviewer has opened that app so far. How is your music organised? Can you make playlists and if so, is it fairly easy or rather tiresome?
This device does not have an easy way to organize songs. I'd get a digital audio player for music needs.
@@JoseBriones Thanks for the answer!
I’ve tried “dumb phones”
I’ve realised I want a dumb iphone, that blocks all time wastage apps
Yeah. That’s not their business model sadly.
So basically an i phone basic with an operating system similar to the i pod nano (with the fm radio in it).
@@bnstndrd I'd basically just want spotify, email, internet and a camera. + the standard alarms and timers.
And yes, unfortunately not their business model. Their screen time thing is one password away to unlimited usage. They should have a cooldown or soemthing. I find deleting google and insta apps helps a lot. But after 15 years of behavioral conditioning, its hard to share the habbit
@@petercruz1993 I'm glad I switched to a dumb phone.
What are your top 3 recommendations for non-smartphones under $100 for use in North America?
Nokia 2760, AGM M7, Nokia 225 4G. They all have pros and cons, but under $100, these are probably the best.
Overall, what device has the longest battery life of every phone you reviewed in the past?
The Nokia Series 30 devices like this one have great battery life. Better is only the Servo R22 and only because it’s massive.
@@JoseBriones is the servo r25 longer battery life then the new sonim xp5+?
Does it have a Map app? Not that I want to watch TH-cam, but occasionally I might need to watch something for work. Can you watch TH-cam if needed? -Thank you!
No maps. TH-cam you could watch it.
Can it read mp4 files
Have you run into any problems with feature phones and updated sim cards? I can't seem to get 5g sim cards to work properly on these devices for some reason.
Not in the US. I have two 5G cards and they have worked without issues for my tests.
Why couldn't they release this in the US? Such a better design than the 225
Yeah. It would be nice. But such is life.
Ive heard from so many people that this phone turns of in cold wheather and has alooot of bugs/errors, is that true or are they lying?
It's true. The system is not stable in cold weather
How many contact nos can be saved in this phone, i mean i have abt 2700 contacts so can i save them all ?
About 500
@@JoseBriones ok isme nano sim dal sakte hai kya, sim slot kaunsa hai ?
Can someone please explain how to delete text messages on this device
Can it read mp4 files
Good 👍
i miss the blackberry.
Hi, may i know what the purpose of having 4g lte in a dump phone?
Some countries have shut down 2G and 3G, so 4G LTE is needed to make calls.
It uses VoLTE which is calling over 4G. VoLTE has much better calling sound quality. And yes, 2G/3G will eventually shut down everywhere worldwide
Not really sure how you judged call quality when you were saying you could only get 2G and in a very specific spot?
I had a call for 10 minutes. It’s very limited but for 2G, it was fine. I’d assume it would be better in 4G LTE environments. Sadly I can’t test that, other reviewers have and say that it has been 6-7/10 so I will defer to them on this one since my experience mirror that even on 2G for a 10 minute call.
@@JoseBriones yeah fair enough. That’s probably more to do with speaker / mic quality, which becomes the bottleneck. Thanks for that.
Is uber and google maps available on it?
No.
Jose, this is unrelated to this video but I am trying to find a way to get in touch with you. I'm a software developer and I'm getting my mp02 this week.
If you still want to/are working on an exploit to add maps, spotify and email to the device, let me know!
Check my about page: th-cam.com/users/JoseBrionesabout email is there. Reddit and Discord are the other two ways as well.
@@JoseBriones thank you! I'll see you there :)
I assume KaiOS still haven't fixed their group texting issues since you didn't mention it. I know their workaround, but it's not very good. Fix group texting and these Nokia devices become a lot more useful IMHO.
This device runs S30+ instead of KaiOS
@@81pieda oh! Icons look really similar to my 6300. What is the group texting situation on S30+?
Group texting is broken on Series 30+. KaiOS 3.0 finally fixed group texts!!
Kaios needs a complete overhaul of their operating system. It's a pretty design but it lags too much.
1) No watsup so you cannot communicate with people abroad without paying money
2) Gmail doesn't work on mine says "connection failed"
3) No WiFi, so if you are in a country where you don't have a net-data plan, you cannot even send a short email.
Older models of Nokia Dumbphones like 2720 outperform this one in every way.
Big disappointment for me, as I still want a dumphone with watsup and gmail, and I don't need all these stupid games.
Does this phone has sms threaded view?
It does not
not worth it. cannot delete apps and i don't play games listen to radio etc. i just want to phone and message. it is not the kind of phone you want if all you want to do is phone and message. the radio sound frequently goes on, it is difficult to find my own phone number, a search for "me" doesn't work. messaging takes too long and to difficult to send anything but very short messages and for me too many useless apps is the biggest downfall--none of them are deletable.
Does it have a hotspot?
No. It doesn't.
Any dumbphone with Spotify and Whatsapp?
Check the dumbphone finder at dumbphones.org
Does it have a Note/Memo app?
Yes it does.
@@JoseBriones you messaged me that I won, thank you for selecting me. I would like to know what I have won & how to claim it.
Why it doesnt work well in Us?
Not enough LTE Bands
@@JoseBriones I just ordered it, do you think I should cancel before it arrives or give it a try? Thanks
Other day I saw a video yours telling you use iPhone
For some people, it’s a good option if you lock it down.
Can we make conference calls with this phone ?
Yes.
Battery life ?
2-4 days
@@JoseBriones thanks brother ❤️👍
I don’t understand why they are going backwards from say like the 6300 4g which supports WhatsApp. Can someone explain ??
Nokia kinda seems to have abandoned KaiOS and only uses S30+ on their latest phones. WhatsApp isn't available on S30+
@@81pieda so sad for Kai OS. I really have faith in that operating system and I’m sure having Nokia behind them was a huge deal
@@81pieda well their other recent phone did support KaiOS, so who knows.
@@mattdebyl8806 their 3 latest (2022) models all run S30+, you're probably referring to one of their 2020 or 2021 devices
@@81pieda nope, the Nokia 2760 came out in March. That’s hardly a sign that Nokia are ditching KaiOS. In fact the 2760 is exclusive for the US market and these 3 devices are not for the US market at all. So again, nothing like being a sign of abandoning KaiOS. That’s a bit like saying when the 2760 came out: ‘what, no S30+ devices? Nokia are clearly abandoning S30+’. Which you would know now is clearly ridiculous.
4:02 The UI here is very out of place
2260 build quality vs this?
2660 is better.
Where's the Inbox?
Messages app
how to delete the fn games ?????????
🤬
🤬or at least hide it in a folder that i can move to its most undiscoverable location
You can’t.
I think Qin keypad phone is better
It’s better if you need more apps for sure!
too big