The Authority of Husbands Over their Wives According to St Thomas
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Beautiful! My husband and I have a properly ordered marriage like this and we are both so grateful - we thank God for it daily. To all the younger couples out there - it takes perseverance, selfless love, and lots of prayer to get it right. It took awhile when we were first married to find the proper balance (according to God’s will) of obedience ( on my part) and authority (on his part). Don’t give up!
I fully agree with the post about it takes time to get right. Took us 8 years to figure it out, but here we are about to celebrate 11 years and tbh these last 3 have been the best of our entire relationship. It's definitely a gift.
Sister, may he love and sacrifice his life for you and your family. May the Lord bless you for not rebelling against His created order. Please boldly and lovingly speak this truth to our sisters in Christ who deny it.
I want you guys to hear what these women are saying: even the good ones fight it for years and years and years before they finally give in. And we wonder why the marriage rate is in the toilet? Spoiler alert: it ain't the men.
@user-ij2cg8ft1f really, dude? You have very little to go on with these comments and your assessment is way off. My husband played just as big a party in not getting it right as I did.
This homily transformed our marriage. Thank you Father!
I struggle with this as my husband is a good man taking care of all our physical & emotional needs but not strong in the most important the spiritual needs of our souls. I grew up in a strong & loving father who was the head of the household & the most important was our souls: family Rosaries, holy Mass & everything was Theocentric. Sometimes I have to say this TV programs isn’t good for our children & he ignores me. I’m praying for his conversion
I hear ya….me too.
I'll try to pray for you. May God bless you with a God-fearing husband!
This is why I have left my fiancé, we have two little toddlers and I just converted. He has been an awesome father and provider. In faith and marriage concerns that is where we lack. I will no longer live in sin, I pray the lord would work on his heart. While either bringing us back together or bringing us our God given spouses.
@@featherbeautyxo Paul says dont leave ur husband for that reason bcz he will make you righteous. You’re depriving your kids from their daddy…. Keep praying on him and bring him to your side thru display of good behaviour … this is your cross to bear sister!!!
@@r.m5883 thank you, although we are not married and he his not willing to marry in the church or meet with a priest for marital preparation. I pray for him constantly
If only men and women embraced their roles and purpose to serve each other rightly we'd have stronger families and an ordered society
This is an excellent take on the authority the husbands have over their wives. Husbands only have authority over their wives and children as pertains to the common good of them all.
It's like Peter, and his successors, having authority over the universal Church for her common good.
So true bro. However, authority/leadership is not synonymous with dignity. Joseph was the head of the holy family and had leadership role but Mary was higher than him in dignity. Her unsurpassed dignity is because of her virtues. Our feminist sisters and even we the men see leadership as the only source of dignity hence the the unhealthy rebellion and competition. We should aspire to a virtuous life in order to grow in dignity in God's eyes.
Remain blessed
Mr. Benedict
Using the Douay Rheims Bible and the Catechism of the Council of Trent. No where in the Bible nor the Council of Trent is there a Distinction between the higher Good and Obedience of a Wife. It does speak of the Man having his Household under Subjection and Ruling his House well. But that does not give the Husband Permission to Abuse nor Disrespect his Wife and Children.
The Bible also speaks of Societal Structure. Example: God is the Head of Jesus, Jesus is the Head of Man,
Man is the Head of Women. PERIOD
Woman are not to be Empowered as they are in Today's Modern Society.
Haven't you noticed that the World is Completely upside down and has become Completely Morally Corrupt? Woman do have their Rightful Place with Respect and Honor in Society. (Absolutely)
May our Souls be Saturated with the Holy Spirit. 🔥✝️📿🙏
And when a man fails to love his wife as Christ loved His Church, but rather with tyranny, anger and fear? Is he even then equal if obviously not superior? How hard it would be to not become rebellious. Lord grant peace for the sisterhood of those who suffer silently.
As a young woman, it took me a while to accept/understand this. But after I did, I could only see the beauty of it. I needed to meet faithful exemplary good catholic men and couples for this.
I would suggest to people against it to just give themselves sometime to think and reflect about it and to go to a Church where couples live this way. May God give them the joy that he's given me when I finally understood this.
Women were misled by the devil, who on earth wants the pressure of working ? Men always knew how hard holding down a job was, now the woman is stuck working outside of the home n coming home doing the majority of the housework, n exhausted...
I've always said the same. Lots of women are now in worse positions due to the increased expectations society demands on them. Unfortunately, feminism has dictated the culture of women and what's expected of them. Mothers at home are negatively endorsed but this has backfired on society. Now than ever before, there are record low marriage rates and birth rates in developed nations. Look at Denmark, for example.
I’m a dad and husband and being a house wife with little kids is actually probably the hardest and most exhausting “job” out there. The easier path is definitely having a full time job.
100% correct! Gloria Steinem did nothing for me!! Went back to work when my youngest went to first grade due to needing to help support our 5 children. Such a sad day for me and very difficult for all! 😞
Women have always contributed to the Household. Yes and oftentimes this means working out of the home like the Proverbs 31 Model.
This isn't " feminism " nor is it fighting God. It's called life and necessity.
@@joecardone4887 That's laughable
You can see the non-submissive women already starting to get passive aggressive in the comment section. Sad.
What's sad is that this garbage is presented as Church teaching/dogma. I am a Trad Roman Catholic, I go to Church in St. Mary's Ks. Adults do not obey other adults, and women are not supposed to "obey" husbands. anymore than husbands should wives.
This "teaching" goes right along with women never having leadership roles anywhere. This was argued for centuries until relatively recently in human history. I am an attorney at law, and I take a leadership role as such. Women and men are equal, not just in dignity, but in intellect, emotion and psyche. I am widowed now but in my happy wonderful marriage I took the lead when a situation demanded my skills, and my husband did when the reverse was true.
Now God willing We-The-People are about to throw out a REAL tyrant, Joe Biden and Kari Lake is running for Az. Gov. People who believe this stuff think SHE should not be running for governor! Margaret Thatcher should not have been Britain's PM! And my personal favorite: Catholic wives/mothers who are TOTALLY IN CHARGE of their children's education, home-schooling them? Should not be doing that. Give me a break.
Now couples who prefer the Trad form of marriage, where women CHOOSE to obey husbands? This is their choice and I have heard that some of these marriages are quite happy. But it is NOT "a woman's duty" to obey her husband, otherwise she can't be married.
Even most “Trad” Roman Catholics are still modernist in this age… Kyrie Eleison
@@kathybrown7658 it seems you never actually understood your roll in the marriage.
Truth & Life App
1 Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.
2 I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you.
3 But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.
1 Corinthians 11:1-3 RSV-CE
@@kathybrown7658 Saint Paul literally says women need to obey their husbands and be submissive to them. Wake up. Feminist nonsense.
I’ve noticed many self professed “traditional Catholic” women are still basically feminist in outlook. I don’t really get worked up about it anymore, but it is depressing
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful! 💕
I love listening about this topic. It just reminds me how lucky I am and how incredible my husband is. He fits perfectly what is said here. Something about watching him be that kinda man just makes me feel so blessed and so loved.
Be blessed❤
I’ve read a few comments from some women complaining about their husbands not being Catholic. Im curious why you would marry them in the first place knowing they didn’t share your beliefs and then act surprised later.
I haven’t seen the comments but it could be that they converted after they got married.
I am so glad I am a woman. I would make an awful husband. His job ia actually harder than ours. This was a very insiteful homily.
@@rf4537 good thing marriage is a choice and you don't have to marry someone who acts like a child
@@Personaje123what is this bitterness for? God chooses whom you marry and whom you do not marry, everyone is His child and is ordered to be childlike in nature. Stop demeaning the love of God for children, and inappropriately using the innocence, virginity, chastity, obedience, reverence and respect and Godly fear that a child has, in a sick and twisted and perverted way.
@@Personaje123 Man has any wants or needs whatsoever = he is a child
It is vital that those seeking marriage receive proper instruction before entering this holy state. I fear that all too many marriages are "not from God". The Church invests some seven years training a man for the priesthood but even then, sometimes it does not turn out well. As young people, all too many of us are slaves to our hormones and in fact, marriage is not our true vocation. Not only are two lives ruined, but also those of any children issuing.
Yeah Donald Trump stomped on holy matrimony several times
A good homily on essential doctrines, I wonder if more priests will ever discuss the epidemic of narcissistic abuse from women and constant attacks on men. I doubt it, most conservatives and now it seems more supposedly traditional Catholics are feminists who do not believe women can make mistakes or do bad things of their own free will.
Completely agree ... that's just the post boomer society we live in. The traditional priests need support, the teachings of the church are good, the problem is the good traditional priests and doctrines have been attacked for decades, they were attacked and smeared terribly, so a lot now have been beaten down to either avoid the subject or treat it more watered down because even then they get angry feminists on their cases. Also the left holds Christians to different standards. e.g. feminists will cover up for a mosque visit "oh so exotic and respectful" but if a church says dress modestly and no yoga pants they will try to destroy you, and unleash the media (which has no problem attacking Christians while covering up the other groups). Anyway I went onto a tangent why likely more priests don't speak out, and when they do it needs to be supported by us and it needs to be encouraged.
Agreed about that most (even self proclaimed conservatives etc.) are feminists on some level, so they will deny it, but it shows in discussions and behaviour.
@@ecclesiaxxi6210 yeah it’s more or less baked into the way people talk about gender issues now, even if someone claims to be traditional. Traditional Catholic bloggers will talk about young men not “doing enough” and then provide zero constructive solutions. If you bring up the ways women are abusive or not trying to live according to the faith it’s a man’s fault (somehow) and that you need to sit and take it. This is a recipe for creating unstable families. I can’t really get upset about this stuff anymore because I just accept no one in the Catholic media space will actually help men to build healthy lives. Men need to lead families, of course, but no one seems to have an answer about what to do when women refuse to follow. The only thing seems to be vague platitudes or more rage about men not being “strong” enough.
Women are Nurtures, Not Leaders. Is there a element of leading in Nurturing? Yes but not in the same way as the Man. I strongly recommend that everyone consult the (Catechism Of The Council Of Trent.) Especially concerning these matters. One of things that it mentions is the woman is not to work outside of the Home without the permission of the husband.
In today's societal climate that could lead to Divorce by the wife's Disobedience and Attitude of Rebelliousness which is common in today's societal climate. Unfortunately.
Father May the precious blood of Jesus Christ protect you may mother Mary cover you with her blue blanket in St Joseph covers you with his unpenetrating armor thank you Father you are awesome a priest forever
Marriage is two halves of a whole , each filling the role natural to each.
The Angelic councils apply to marriage as much as to the religious life , your wealth is first for your family , so the Angelic Council of poverty , your body belongs to your spouse , therefore the Angelic Council of Chastity , the husband has the office of patriarchal priesthood which is this spiritual guidance of his family , his wife is to aid him in this role bowing in obedience to his leading , and the husband to the church. and therefore the Angelic Council of obedience.
As said , if one bulit a up and the other tears down , what do they gain but strife.
The greatest damage to marriage and the family was when they took
Love , honor and Obey out of the marriage vow.
It didn't make a woman a man's equal , it removed the man's place from the family.
This is the strongest I’ve ever heard a priest come out on the subject against women. However he was still holding back.
It is astounding how quickly the standards and moral of a society can change, and on top of it the truths we speak against these evils stings it so bad that they silence and 'cancel' us for speaking it.
@@leaf4958
Pardon, when speaking of men most often we mean man’s fallen nature… same with women. The homily is addressing men and women’s fallen tendencies. I give him most credit for telling women that authority doesn’t belong to them and imagine the judgment you will receive for stealing that authority that does not belong to you.
@@leaf4958 I'm hoping he meant "against feminists". Father's message was obviously "for" both men and women.
" Against women "
This is why feminism has gained legitimacy.
@@PB_324
Yes it is because snow flakes get butt hurt so easy today. A thousand homilies that critic men are out there and no one sees issue with that, but be critical of women and somehow that crosses a line
Satan delights in imbalance and anger - he finds cracks caused by such, and goes to work in those cracks to divide the angry from their good. With this said, too many men abused their strength and had long since stopped being their authentic self - giving women reason to be angry - enter satan to convimce women they deserved better by usurping mans role. And there goes the slippery slope - with women, now, the enemy of their own children.
Excellent
Who is this priest and what parish is he located? He is spot on!
Fr. Kluge, he was at my parish Mount Carmel in Littleton, CO, but has been moved I forget where too. Awesome priest!
Sadly my husband does not believe in the Catholic faith. He actually doesn't believe in Religion. What does a wife do when the husband does NOT necessarily believe in Heaven or Hell?. :( He does say he is closer to being Agnostic than anything else.
1 Corinthians 7:14. Prayer and fasting don’t hurt either. Praying for you.
Many wives have converted their husbands. Get the diary of Elizabeth Lesuer too.
Pray the Rosary and ask Mary for help.
Don't underestimate the power of the Rosary.
If you don't believe me read - The Secret of the Rosary by St. Louis de Montfort.
This book is considered the gold standard on teaching about the Rosary.
St. Monica not only prayed for the conversion of her son, St. Augustine, but also for the conversion of her pagan husband. Be persistent in prayer like St. Monica. ❤️🔥
You continue to carry on your faith, pray the rosary, attend holy mass, say novenas for him: St. Joseph etc., read hood and holy books and leave it so he can see it. Stay away from anything that is wrong that he does like tv shows
I hope this helps
Please pray for my teeth, as one has disease in it and I don't want to have it taken out or pay, 1,000 to have a root canal on it as I want that money so that Fr Emile will celebrate a Holy Latin Holy Gregorian Holy Masses for the Holy Souls as 100 Holy Latin Masses will cost me 680.00, and daddy Vincent's trip to his dietician today as daddy won't eat much
Beautiful and excellent homely Father!
SENSUS FIDELIUM. 🙏💪👍🙏
Oooh I recognize this priest's voice 👍🏼
Who is he? I usually am familiar with the voice, but I don’t recognize his.
@@veronicaperts9097 Fr. Kluge
Amen.
✝
This is great
You won't hear these words from NO clergy from the top down, keep the traditional Catholic faith.
So any man who is bad will automatically not be worthy of the title head of the family coz he isn't caring for his lil society
What are the wifely duties
Sex, care of the home, care of the family.
listening by minute 9, have not heard about what St Thomas said (or it is not clear what are his quotes)
. I guess I will google it
I think you should just listen to the homily and internalize the message
I think that this was very good, however, when the priest said that both husband and wife have a right to earn money, he did not stipulate that the woman is not to work outside of the home - she can work in the home (write a book and earn money provided it does not interfere with her wifely and motherly duties). This is Catholic Teaching.
No pope, to this day, has actually given permission to the woman to work outside of the home, and with good reason. It is not good (unless it is absolutely necessary) for a woman to be in the workforce. It is not good spiritually or economically.
In Christianity, according to the Bible, a husband has a number of duties:
To present his bride to God throughout their lives as perfectly holy and virtuous as can be.
To protect his wife with his own life, physically, emotionally and "spiritually".
To "lay down" his life, counting her more important than himself.
To lead his wife and his family into the best things for them.
To be the best that he can be in God's power.
To not withhold his body from her.
And the wife’s duties?
@@michaelibach9063 I think June will need to answer that as she did on men... as I wouldn't have guessed some of those. From the woman's point (off the top of my head), being faithful, respecting her husband (especially publicly), submitting to his authority and being under him, follow his lead, he is the head of the family, you should be a support and helper (you give your opinion/advice and he explains his position, there will be discussion but he makes the final decision and you accept) ... be by his side (as he should be by yours) in sickness and in health, and create a good/happy/cozy/loving home ... be virtuous ... and both the husband and wife should help each other to heaven, pray together, when one is down the other supports/helps.
I'm sure there is a lot I missed as this is just what comes to mind right now (inc. cooking, cleaning, having & raising the children, but that's the basics) ... I think there is a lot of good stuff in Proverbs in the Bible. Also it's easy to see from the greatness of Christendom how things were (good for both).
If you follow Christianity (not "boomer" Christianity), both men and women have different duties/responsibilities, and I guess privileges too, which makes sense as we were created differently with different strengths/weakness and preferences. It works.
And to love her as Christ loved his church. This is the most important
whats the name of the song?
Thank you
Beautiful Homily. Thank you for sharing Steve.
Does anyone know the name of this priest?
Man who misuses his power creates a woman who then wants to steal someone's authority. So this is on man.
Not according to Genesis. It was part of the curse.
I'm a faithful Catholic who practices my faith well and this is a bunch of sexist garbage. Women are not inferior and we should not be treated as such. I hope women know you can find a lovely nice normal man who doesn't need to put you down. This horrible take has died out for a reason. And thank God for that.
All the hedging to the feminine in this Homily is why traditionalist’s constantly lose.
You’ll never get the laity (especially women) to defer to Monarchy of the Church (in direct hierarchy to God) if you can’t unapologetically declare that a husband is the head of the family. Period. No yeah buts… No exceptions.. No equality. That word appears nowhere in the Gospels.
@@brianmurphy9570 I listened to a homily that sounded good on the surface, but hedged everywhere by using revolutionary language like “equality” (yes I know Saint Thomas used it) or stating that a man should seek his wife’s counsel in some matters and he shouldn’t see her as one of the children.
The problem is It’s 2022 not 1950. Anyone with an internet connection can see that women (collectively) have no concept of “common good” (for family or society). Quick example; women initiate 80% of divorces with the grand majority being “no fault”. Not exactly stellar for society.
The straw man argument of the lazy shepherd doesn’t hold for the grand majority of all men throughout history (or there’d be no society).
However in 2022 the grand majority of all women are harlots and the property of the State and social media corporations. Not the Church or the husband.
This Homily is 70 years out of touch with the reality of our present day, and the Church has proven (as a whole) unable to hold women accountable for their baser instincts.
If you can't tell a woman to shut up, you don't live in a patriarchy.
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In my honest opinion,
I honestly believe that women in the Catholic Christian faith should be treated fairly and equally and let the woman speak for herself and stand up for herself. In my previous relationship with my previous girlfriend. I've tried my best to let my ex girlfriend speak for herself and let her express herself and I even respected her.
Why do so many religious moralizers speak in this stilted, overly-precise manner that comes across as self-conscious, sanctimonious, and arrogant? To say nothing of sounding effeminate like this priest does? I ask not out of a desire to oppose his argument, but to improve its effectiveness.
Because you have serious issues.
The constant reference to protestantism is overtoned, thus spoiling an otherwise good, but lacking particular examples, sermon.
Sounds like a personal problem that you have with the video and not a problem with the video itself
@@swagout7472 what does that mean? The video or the video itself ?
Holy Gospel according to Saint Matthew, please Fr please address the Gospel Saint properly , don't leave out their rightful title
In extremely dangerous moments, sure. Otherwise? Women are far more well educated now and since men are not as perfect as Thomas thought ... no. There are times, both ways, that men and women need to listen to each others' expertise. Then love flows.
“A free man becomes a slave under the powers of his wife”
-Saint Thomas Aquinas
“It is impossible for a husband to know the common good without consulting seriously with his wife”
At all times both parties need to listen to each other. It’s just that the man is the one who Must execute properly after receiving counsel from his wife.
Saint Thomas Aquinas never said men were perfect and his teachings are very nuanced. Like so much else in life. A husband is only superior in his ability to perform, and only if he’s been conditioned for that which unfortunately many have not been these days.
How does "education" of women changes anything?
Nothing like passive aggressive women needing to make sure their “power” isn’t squished with comments like these…
It's not about the quantity of "education". Men have the privilege of reason, women have the privilege of emotion. The head rules the heart but the heart is essential.
@@100Denario Thomas wasn’t talking to you dude, he was responding to the original post.