Byzantium gone HORRIBLY wrong...No Step Back
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That save was crazy
Nobody cares
These subs where the mvp
@@excaperr4722 yeah if i want commercials i watch tv and if he keeps this up i unsub quicker then tacobell gives me the shits
@@____________6145 well he needs money - you can ignore them if you want, but the sponsors are paying him good money lol
Historical Focuses Off is so close to being amazing. Once Italy has a tree and stops dying in 38 trying to invade Yugoslavia I think it'll be a really fun mode~
Italy NEEDS something A-Historical man
The only issue I've noticed besides that is that Turkey is bugged and won't form the Ottoman Empire even if manually set to do so. They never invite the Ottoman loyalists back so they can't the Ottoman focus and they just do Reconfigure foreign policy anyways.
Italy is op with by blood alone dlc
Didn’t age well
Pure epic spartanness.
I honestly love seeing the manpower go up after the decisions are taken. I hate when people end the video before all of it’s calculated.
31:26 Who would win? The strongest naval power in the world or 10 underwater tubes?
DA TUUUUUBES
I do not understand how the subs destroyed everything. can someone explain?
@@PhilipposACostalatest Submarine tech and always engage. If the subs are set to always engage then over time the British ships will eventually get hit enough to start sinking. The British ships also have a very tough time detecting the submarines too so they don't sink alot of them .
With 1940/1944 Submarine hulls as well as maximum level snorkels are nearly impossible to detect. And since ammunition doesn't exist in the game, eventually the subs will have launched so many torpedoes over time that the British are bound to lose ships. That naval battle was probably going on for months.
I feel like it's my birthday new vid from bitt3r back to back
A note about static AA, with max AA in the districts, plus a Radar position or two, and some fighters on intercept, you can actually do really extraordinary damage to the enemy airforce. I did so as France in a war against the Axis, with no UK involved. My airforce was utterly outmatched, but the static AA got a ton of kills.
Was static AA changed? Because it was basically useless before
@@cc0767 maybe, i never used it and always went with CAS and fighters but i’ve seen a few people say that static AA and up to date radar is pretty good
Static AA do NOT taking out enemy airforce! They shot down plane only in strategic bombing, port strike or air supply missions. So no fighter or CAS are destroy by them. It have none influence on air or land fight. They reduce enemi air superiority a little bit but it's not significative because you need fighter to win it. Static AA is by far the worst building in the game. Their purpose is irrelevent against IA.
@@christianthompson7915 radar gives your fighters a huge boost, so maybe its just that?
@@cc0767 i don’t know. i never use radars, i always use CAS and fighters with anti aa on my defense infantry
Seeing Bitt3r get excited every time he starts to claw back a save never gets old. These seem like they may be tiring but they're very enjoyable thank you. o7
31:37
Excuse me but WHAT THE FUCK? Let's do the math here real quick :
You had 10 submarines in that battle and you sunk 73 enemy targets.
One of them is a convoy, let's be real generous here and say it was sunk by a deck gun.
So we have 72 enemy ships torpedoed to Davy Jones locker.
So 72 divided by 10 gives us 7,2. So each of your subs sunk 7,2 ships.
You were using sub 3's from my understanding, tech based on the later U-boats which had 6 torpedo tubes which take quite some time to reload and reflood.
So essentially, in however much time that battle took, each of your subs fired a full salvo of torpedoes, each tube aimed at a different target, all of them hitting their targets perfectly. Then they reloaded their tubes, while presumably, the British fleet started cooking water for tea on the wrecks of their burning ships, and either all of your ships took another extra shot, or three captains decided to yolo it and fired another full salvo hitting once again ALL targets in a sea zone LITTERED with burning and sinking ships.
And the madness doesn't end there! Battleships, Aircraft Carries, some heavy cruisers, those boats have bulk heads! One torpedo hit usually doesn't send them to the bottom.
So either your fleet expended Greece's yearly production of torpedoes in one engagement, hitting every shot while perfectly avoiding detection and enemy counterfire, or, sub 3's are actually Ohio class SSGNs with 24 ballistic missile tubes.
Fuck, subs are stupid in this game.
Grease navy: sir we sank a entire battle group… grease
navel high command: at what it cost?
Navy: 3 subs and our entire torpedoes stock
navel high command: I see this as an absolute win.
@@unifiedhorizons2663 grease
@@Akkise grocko
SUB 3's definetly just ohio class
That's all assuming the battle was like a few hours or a day. Naval can be several days...so it's a lot more likely hey didn.t need to be lucky with each hit. That said; it was still luckly had enough torpedoes.
That motorized naval invasion was actually nuts. Well done once again man
that was insane, bloody impressive and good job!
Bitt3r when someone doesn’t use superior firepower: starts going on a 30 minute rant on why superior firepower is the best
Then there’s me, who actually really likes Grand Battleplan
I’m not sure this still works but there’s a zero supply exploit? Strategy that lets you have troops with 0 or near 0 supply.
Because the supply factors are additive and not multiplicative in hoi4, each factor has huge effect. So logistics wizard + good logistics level on general + logistics company + deep battle doctrine can get you a -100 supply use everywhere. Really helpful against strat bombing.
sounds like its the same as 100% entrenchment
As far as I know, general and doctrine bonuses and division bonuses work separately. You can get -65% from generals and -20% from doctrines, up to -85%. This is lowered by -40% multiplicatively to 9% supply consumption. Close to zero, but not zero, and you'll need to forgo the bold attack army spirit for the logistical one to have a hope of getting 10 logistics skill.
Do you want a Greece guide or a disaster save. Literally everyone:YES
Haven't watched yet, but my byzantium instincts are tingling, telling me Bulgaria must fall first, then a hard push with CAS and Tacs into turkey to capitulate them and form byzantium
Yes, but there was a lot more crying than hoped for to get there
From my little bit of toying around with it, in order to get static AA to be worthwhile you also need to have Radar and keep it up to date. With radar and static AA you can do an ok job of taking out enemy airforce. With JUST static AA, they're essentially worthless.
Static AA do NOT taking out enemy airforce! They shot down plane only in strategic bombing, port strike or air supply missions. So no fighter or CAS are destroy by them. It have none influence on air or land fight. They reduce enemi air superiority a little bit but it's not significative because you need fighter to win it. Static AA is by far the worst building in the game. Their purpose is irrelevent against IA.
@@aurelienrodriguez3252 This is not true! Static AA DOES do damage against fighters and CAS, but it depends on the mission. For instance, they do nothing against Interception fighters, but they WILL hit air superiority fighters.
Thanks for another great video! I learned a LOT from your disaster saves and I'm very grateful to you, bitt3r!
I love how Lithuania is like Switzerland in eastern europe.
P.S. Really good video! Kept me hooked to see how the industry rehabilitates itself.
Reminds me of my Siberian Tiger vs Axis playthrough at late 1946-June 1947
Yep, those encirclements are certainly getting "UOOOOOHHHH" certified by me. And safe to say this is the best disaster save i've ever seen so far. Good game, Bitt3rSteel!
32:07 me too bitt3r me too. Don’t know how you managed it but you did it again. Always a great time when u upload👍
I notice that you cannot join faction with USA when USA is the faction leader or they cannot join with you when you're the faction leader because they have national spirit "Home of the Free" unless if you and USA both have the same ideology and can join faction together. You can't join that because you and USA have different ideology! You need USA has the same ideology as you if you have a chance. Alternatively, if they goes in the fascist path to make a civil war and then that national spirit is gone and you're free to join with USA regardless of different ideology. That's the fact.
I see what they we’re planning, a motorized rocket artillery army to obliterate infantry
Exactly what I was planning to do, also the reason I had those semi-motorized divisions was to have more divs with better pushing power than reg infantry as I did not have enough trucks to build the same amount of my full motorized divs when those were trained. Tanks were not in my mind outside of *maybe* a very late game thing, it was entirely a motorized rocket artillery goal.
I'm pretty sure Greece felt the same way about Thessaloniki, as you did during the Balkan wars. lol
Oh my god Bitt3r, you've fucking done it, you've restored the glorious Byzantium. I was NOT expecting this. It seems that struggle and necessity really is the source of human ingenuity.
That Zap Branigan reference was on point. "Hold girdle hold"
Finally a person that says the word hoplites like how it is said in greek.
That thumbnail is *chefs kiss*
When that Bulgarian attack happened I was deadass holding my breath for Bittersteel. HoI4 is a hell of a drug.
Hi Bitt3rSteel! What are your thoughts on Feedback's video on the perfect combat width?
There is no (relevant) video about that (with 'No Step Back' enabled)! :)
@@Thorisotto It varies based on terrain but you can make a division which is not optimal in most terrains but ok in almost everything.
I've done a lot of testing with that video and pretty much all of the widths run into serious overwidth problems, especially 27w. Smaller divisions are better on offense now because they can stack support companies and are less likely to go overwide. 20-22w are the way to go IMO, and 5/0 infantry with both rocket supports on SF R+R shred literally anything if you can afford extreme losses.
This one was definitly quite intresting, and sadly most of my greece campaigns end like that, just becouse of Italy and their bad focus tree
Why play Greece when you can play Bulgaria instead?
The unstoppable trio of Greece, Canada and South Africa.
Spartans never die. They just go missing in action.
*Don't build a supply hub next to the coast, just build a port!!!*
its waaay cheaper
This
This was amazing to watch, i tought it was lost the moment you opened the game but my god the catharsis when you beat the germans .... i was on the edge of my seat! Unsure how you won witth those subs! I have this game where i played communist sweden, conquered all of scandinavia at the cost of war with the allies, but have like 4 full fleets of 1940 subs + 2000 naval bombers and the dont do nearly as well as your sub fleet :D is it imba or do i suck :D
I’m curious about the area around Gjirokaster, just north of Greece. In 1914 for a bit, there was the Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus.
When you got on to seeing his doctrin it sounded like you were about to cry
Yes, the master returns. Your disaster videos are what being me back every time!
Hi Bittersteel, how are you? As an Half-Italian Half Cuban I would reeeeeally like to see you conquer the WHOLE america with Cuba. If you want to make it more difficult you can play as a Communist Nation. Cheers, Crokodile
when greece tries to make byzantium but it's modern day greece
I dont usually watch hoi4 gameplay videos but your content is amazing. Love it!!!
That was some sparta spirit if I've ever seen one
Glad you are back with the videos love your content bittr
Absolutely incredible!
11:43 Interestingly, though, supply in Izmir is actually not bad. Hmmm.
Romania pulls a funny
grease why you do me like that!
"Sofia is wide open" - no HOI4 Player ever
Good job bitter it’s not a shock you won this good job :)
You could have gotten green air. Ligt aircraft designer fullu upgraded fighter 2-3 and then 10 factories on it and in 43 air would be green. Would have required you to drop cas trucks aa and trains but would have been worth
You're The LegendofTotalWar of HOI4
HOLY SHIT that was tough!!
Even the AI is able to reinforce meme
Holy moly what a comeback! Great vid!
Spartans never die
Gonna make it to the finish line
I love these challenges.
Honestly wanted to see it keep going
31:37 got a bit german there with the numbers (85 destroyers)
“We are no longer on our own” SA and canada being kicked from your faction:
Perfect timing, byzantium is exactly what I'm messing with currently. 😍
Greece often has impossible changes
That's a solid save
Going for the fighter 3's early, and making sure they have the designer that gives them a 20% agility bonus might just about have been enough to deter alot of the Cas on interception. Maybe 200 planes?
Brilliant campaign! Display of true mastery!!!
your equipment stockpile was looking very diverse towards the end there
Spartans never die!
That required a lot of patience xD
AA is actually really strong this patch, small nations are just not very forgiving of mistakes :P
The first time hearing Bitt3rSteel. I wonder how will react to 1945 Endzig (sorry if I misspelled it) Germany
Love all of your content
Congrats on pushing out the enemy from their location and creating a new nation... cant wait for the next video.
you can tell its a great sponsor because the video they sent looks like, or is, in the wrong resolution
14:00
If America is the faction leader and you are NOT the exact same ideology as them, you cannot AT all join their faction or have them join a faction not of their ideology.
Best morning now
Unless you're making strat bombers strategic destruction is not good
Yugoslavia's massive border against the Central Powers might have saved you, actually, as faction members do get a negative modifier towards joining wars if they "share dangerous borders" with the enemy side. The Yugoslav AI agreed with you that entering the war with Germany's faction would be a mistake.
This really shows how it feels like to lead the eastern Roman Empire, hair-brained scheme after hair-brained scheme to desperate hold on.
To be fair to the guy they were trying to build a mobile army they just didn't know how to do that.
Excellent video!
This was absolutely awesome. Love the non historical!
what da tube’s doing ?
10 vs 72
its like one of those german tiger stories but underwater
its the meme im not stuck with you
you are stuck with me
Hey dude, you sound a bit tired in this one. Remember to put yourself and the family before HOI4. All the best and thanks for the video!
Please do a part 2 this play through was amazing
Imagine being a soldier in these disaster saves
That's a halo reference. It must be
Wasn't there an option to let Turkey have those Anatolian territories? Strengthening your primary enemy (for the time) seems counterproductive.
epic
what a chad gameplay!
Excellent job as always
I mean I see why he went down mobile warfare because he was making katyushas, lots of trucks and going down the left path is actually pretty decent for motorised infantry (the doctrine isn't just for tanks btw) but he just didn't have the industry and didn't use it in his template properly. I guess he just didn't expect to be fighting the entire axis with the UK on the defensive in which case the doctrine isn't great.
Ah yes, turkish war of independence
THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Great vid
Best one yet !
Well played!
I rly dont understand so many things. But love your video :)
Well done Bitt3rSteel :D
That was one epic video
whats up with the voice quality for bitter steel? no hate or anything it just seems like its gone down in recent videos
Hmm, thanks for the comment. I'll have a chat with my editor and see if we can pinpoint the issue. My set up hasn't changed, so it is probably a software issue somewhere
You Know What The Most Non-Historical in this Gameplay?!?!?!?!?!?!? 31:25
I humble myself before you sensei! ... How many times did you try?
This is to stressful for you man
The things I do for Byzantium
1922 #2
Can you do a no step back Germany guide?