How to Avoid Astrological Burnout: Don't Be Afraid of Saturn - Episode 5
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- Today, we delve into the often misunderstood planet of Saturn, exploring the common fears and misconceptions surrounding this planetary giant in our continued series on avoiding astrological burnout. Although Saturn is frequently associated with limitations and challenges, we'll unearth its rich history as one of the most mystical and romantically imagined planets in astrological tradition. Join us as we explore the multifaceted nature of Saturn, aiming to equip you with a more enriched, inspiring, and stress-free approach to navigating its transits.
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Pink Floyd's "The Wall" is a very Saturnian metaphor. In the story, Pink built a metaphorical wall around his heart to protect himself from being emotionally hurt. Then he found that he was safe, but terribly lonely, and still afraid. In the end, there's no such thing as safety, because the wall itself will hurt you. People think Saturn is about boundaries, limitations, regulations, rules. But if those boundaries are lies, Saturn will tear them down. He counters Neptune in that way. Especially when he links up with the Sun or Pluto. And when he's together with Uranus, KABOOM!
Good morning/afternoon/evening to everyone here today! Hope you're all doing well :)
So important to consider these aspects of Saturn’s symbolism. A lot to consider there. I didn’t know that Frida Kahlo had a prosthetic leg- so glad to learn more about her and the significant role illness and disability had in her life. Obviously it didn’t stop her from making a brilliant impact on the world. Definitely want to see a “don’t be afraid of Mars” in the future. Mars is a very misunderstood archetype.
Thank you so much for this!! I have deeply disliked and almost rejected the Saturn rulled parts of myself for so long. This gave me a whole new beautiful perspective.
Thank you!
I love that you looked at Nina Simone’s chart! One of my greatest heroes. She said, “it’s an artists’ DUTY to reflect the times.” 🔥💗🎶
I’ve got Saturn & Venus in Leo. I’m a social worker, writer, fire dancer. I’m constantly questioning society! 🧐😜
Saturn in Sag 3rd H Rx. I felt this "society SOCIETY " 😅 still have to dance to my own drum.. regardless👍 ✌💜💚💛🎵🎶🎵
I’m looking forward to the upcoming talk on why not to be afraid of the 12th house. I’m a Pisces rising and Pluto is About to go back into my 12th house possibly for the rest of my life. I can’t say that I’m not worried that it will somehow take away my faculties and personal agency. Especially because my natal Mars will make a whole sign house opposition to it from the 6th.
Same (Pisces Rising as well) but natal Mars in Capricorn
“I don’t see (the planets) as more or less spiritual”. I recently had the same realization about different parts of myself (referring to IFS). I love how those two systems can complement each other. Thank you for your work!
🪐 Saturn as a gatekeeper of realms, potentially neuter or shares duality as feminine, walks the line of opposition which is exalted in libra. Rules the signs that bring back the light to begin again or transcend as a creative process that requires form to manifest. Makes sense the joy of Saturn would be the house of isolation and spiritual diligence, a contemplative place between the material and transcendent, a liminal space that finds its comfort outside of “society” 🤫 😂
Love the mini master class thanks 🙏
this was an amazing talk, thank you for going in such depth. I'm very saturnian, and I understood myself and felt understood here.
I especially loved learning about Saturn's connection to the discovery of outer planets. and loved learning that some of my favorite people were saturnian as well.
love that you're going to do this for houses too.
I'm having my 2nd Saturn return in the 10th and boy i am feeling deterioration! Some big things in fall..relationship, home & career yet i know it's a necessary 'living in the wild/re-build/turning point' time. The word limbo has been swirling in my mind but i'm going to replace it with threshold. So much better.Thanks for the pep talk Adam, i will be listening to this on repeat, so much wisdom! 💖
Same, but in my 12th.
As a Cap Rising and a Pisces Sun, Saturn includes the gift of the wise grandmother. Thank you, this video helps me to understand my Saturn transit even better.
Thank you Adam! Love Love Love this! Heavily 🪐saturn ruled over here. Capricorn ascendant, Sun and Mercury. I think we are totally bad ass and malefic planets dont scare me lol. All that capricorn energy AND i have Saturn, Mars, and Pluto in Scorpio. So...
Thanks for this deep dive into my chart ruler! Finding out I was a Capricorn rising was helpful but I always hear the same thing - patriarchy, dark, cold, dry, limits. Glad for this deeper insight!
Okay, this is blowing my mind. I just picked this at random, being a Capricorn rising, but had always identified myself more with my Sun in Aries. I've hated the Saturn Capricorn and been plagued with setbacks most of my life, and all the cliches we think of Saturn. After a huge shake-up in my life that turned it upside down, I am reinventing myself as a tarot reader, astrologer, and author. I am also a loner and studying esoteric subjects like Hermeticism, and am definitely the "black sheep" of the family (they abandoned me after the stroke) and often refer to myself as a "heretic." These are things I never knew could be associated with Saturn. I think I may be a LOT more Capricorn than Aries! PS. Someone once referred to me and a friend as the Far Side for her because she was so silly, and me as "The Dark Side!"
"Comfortable with death and decay"... I was a hospice nurse. Also, Pluto in the 8th!
Oh my goodness, hard same with me even to the development as a professional Astrologer, tarot reader, and hermeticism.
@@mistyhufford294 Heavy Capricorn in your chart? I remember about 30 years ago me and a friend went to an astrologer and she was telling her all these good things, then she got to my chart... pause and heavy sigh. I thought, "That explains a lot."
I started learning astrology with placidus, this places Saturn in my 7th, AQua moon & stellium in the 4th square Saturn, moon trine Uranus in the 12th. I spent time as a child in church, Sunday school & felt comfortable there, but also questioned everything. When I lost my mom, the answers were insufficient & I left church. Also, Venus in Cap trine Saturn, square Uranus. This all made sense to me, I was doing ancestry work looking for my biological father, my mother passed when I was 17, the exact degree of both Saturn & my moon. However when I use whole sign, Uranus moves to the 1st, Saturn in the 8th, this also makes sense. Saturn frustrates me like everything I saw growing up, but I see what he wants to teach me, I know my reality would be smoother sailing if I just reconcile & incorporate this teaching. Ancients thought of Saturn with the hard work of the harvest, but also I think, the fair distribution of it. Saturn & I have a challenging relationship, I tend to Uranus, but with the awareness that I am going against established norms, someday I will find the balance. Right now I am weaving, putting my spin on an old technique, I love the feeling of completion when knotting my work. Thank you Adam, this was awesome🙏
Read that whole thing. Lol 🤦♀️
right? Saturn hits a nerve, literally, in my left shoulder, lol@@SiriusDogStar369
Born with Saturn Conjunct my Sun by 1º in the 5th and have always saw this as you first described…limiting self-beliefs, a downer in general, teaching me hard lessons, hard work, etc….but I relate so much more to this placement now that I have watched and listened. The quote you gave from Fuccino about Astrology being Saturnian stuck with me the most since learning, practicing then teaching others about astrology gives me the most joy. I’m going to have to take a new look at my chart through a more informed understanding of Saturn.
Adam, thank you SO MUCH for this. Well articulated and so helpfully insightful. Brings much relief! Been studying Saturn particularly, lately, and i can say its been getting me down a bit...this definitely helped lighten the perspective and gives me fresh vision in my view of the freakin conjunct of Saturn with my Sun (and Mercury🥴). Your insight is much appreciated!
Nice, thank you! 🙏🏻✨
Omg yes please! ‘Don’t be afraid of 12th house’ episode 🤞🏼. I have Pluto there in Libra, at anaretic degree and composite of 7 planets stellium in there in Capricorn with my partner
This is illuminating and helps me better understand the alternate ways of looking at astrology. What a relief! This is healing. Thank you, Adam!!
This was beautiful. I’ve been praying recently to make friends with Saturn in my first house Pisces Asc. Adam you always give such a richness and depth to the planets.
I created a small altar to Saturn as it is also transiting Pisces' rising.
I light a small tealight candle and affirm that my lessons for the day will be clearly recognized and as gentle as possible.
Pisces in saturn here. Second return. Pisces moon, too. With the i initial whoosh of aries rising, hullow!! :;)
I have Saturn passing through my first house, too right now. I am asking the master of boundaries to help me set healthier ones .Love your Saturn and he will love you back.
Think of the celebration "Saturnalia".
Saturn conjunct my south node by 25 min in Aquarius kicked my butt last few years. I also just started a 19 year Saturn Mahadasha. 😢
This is great info on Saturn! Thank you!
For what it's worth, I feel like Saturn 🪐 is the immovable object to Mercury's⚡️🌡unstoppable force, to borrow an idea! I'd rather be on its side, as it's not so much fear, but a kind of bracing! Now, I'm intrigued by its mysticism and romanticism, which I assumed was the purview of Jupiter and Venus, respectively! 🎉 Here we go.... deep distillation of a paradigm shift of perspective on Saturn!
Oh hey, Jane's Addiction did a song about the immovable object / unstoppable force...rang right into my mind. Ty!
@nelliedrew7363 oh, didn't know that! I only know about the quote in The Dark Knight film! Stuck with me.
Thank you
🤯 Brilliant. I'll be watching this again and again. As a Cap rising, this was so healing to hear. Thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you, Adam. My melancholic temperament loved this episode❤
And, is it any wonder that " Into The Wild" is one of my favorite movies 😉 society!
And out of the "blue" this morning, before I watched this episode, the song " Don't Fear The Reaper" by Blue Oyster Cult popped into my mind. Lol
This is such a good talk. Saturn is is so meaningful and intriguing in my chart… and in the past year specifically, and I’m still under the influence- since it’s in Pisces… This was very illuminating. Thank you Adam. Can’t wait to start on Nov. 18🤩
I've had 2 ♎ do me in( do wrong to me) now I get it..s node in Libra ⚖️ ...😊
This was so, so, so helpful. I've always struggled with Saturn, but this is a ton of fantastic information--thank you!!
I’m loving this series! Thank you so much 🙏✨
Thank you Adam for this beautiful melancholic reflection on Saturn!
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Side note, I would love love love to see you interviewed by Mel Robbins, I can see a meeting of brilliant minds and fabulous content conversations to revel in ✨✨✨🤩❤️
Thank you Adam, this interpretation has shed new light and inspiration on my Saturn Ascendant conjunction.
Saturn has been very, very good to me. I think of him of my cosmic bodyguard.
Thank you for sharing this amazing presentation. I am Cap rising with Jupiter & the moon conjunct the ascendant. I first became acquainted with astrology using Placidus, so Jupiter and the moon are 12thH as well as Neptune (degree based conjunction with ASC etc) and Uranus. I so look forward to the “don’t be afraid of the 12th house” talk. For the last few years, I have been looking at the sunrise when I can.
“Nothing Gold Can Stay” by Robert Frost is my go-to. Like, even panic-recited it once. I bet I learned it when we read _The Outsiders_ in school. Just offering my perspective on how I’ve come to learn the 12th/Saturn being a Cap rising.
Saturn 🪐 is such a hard ass but he’s not a fair weather person like Venus or Jupiter he’s make keeps it real with you but his subtle complaints have weight to them.
Love this. Thanks for the deeper insight. 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Although not easy, I appreciate my 12th house NN and Uranus in Scorpio, Neptune in 1st and Saturn in 9th. My chart is ruled by Pluto and Mars and sun sign Aries also ruled by Mars. I am very misunderstood by my family, however, gratefully, my husband is very supportive...
i'm a 12th house Pisces, and my peyote/ayahuasca/UAP/NDE experiences have super-charged my dreams and hypnogogic states over the last 15 years or so. unfortunately, the cast of characters in my 'shamanic' dreams don't wear nametags. but i'm pretty sure they are the placements on my chart/Jungian archetypes including Saturn
Saturn is hot now, Venus is chillin. New world!
Thankyou for all the new ways to percieve Saturn. Great to hear how Saturn was percieved in ancient times. Still digesting :)
Feminine. mysicism and romance?
I can believe, how the negating princip can be a motivating factor for action by holding up the ideal with the still not perfect.
How two things can be looked at simultaniusly.
Then there is the melancholi, there is alot of beauty because it lives in the heart. A lot of atmosphere, dense, dark.
A little suppriced though about it not seeing things clearly.
I always thought of it as being busy percieving reality in a very Logic and rational way. Very ineresting actualy.
Also i always saw it as the opposite of the Moon, thats what i have been Reading so far.
I remember singing in a choir from the Sabian symbols as being part of capricorn.
So many things run through me, but the first thing i thought of was what some call Nordic Noir.
This is the athmosphere so saturnic i feel.
There is a beautiful piano theme from a movie Series called Beck. (A crime inspector)
Called: Beck soundtrack intro.
And another intro to same series that visualy realy captures the athmosphere of Nordic noir.
Called:
Beck 27 intro final master.
See you :)
Thank you for this perspective. My Cap Asc, Aqua Moon, Pisces Sun feels validated in a new way - as a ‘child of Saturn,’ lacking fatherly figures somewhat isolated me from girlfriends who are able to naturally navigate masculine energies, also ties into my Aries Venus/SN conj. At this point celibacy feels like the best option while the yin and yang are learning to come into better balance..maybe another leg of Saturn discipline? Maybe an inevitability considering the ruler of my 7th opposes my chart ruler (Moon opp Saturn)? Maybe preparation for an upcoming 12th house profected year haha #grabbed
With gratitude and blessings ❤
This was extremely helpful!
This might be a bad take, but I think partially influenced by hustle culture and the death of romance, a lot of people in gen z love Saturn and hate/fear Venus.
😂I can see it..the pluto in scorpio generation??
@@margolyn8291Pluto in Sag
Very interesting, but why was Neptune removed from the charts of celebs you shared?
So illuminating!
Moon too please! I mean, who isn't slightly scared of their feelings? ;P
Thanks again!
Good reason to celebrate: Saturnalia!
Thank you so much 💜
Thank you,
Adam, pleeeease cover Mars! As it's coming into a conjunction with my ascendant, I've had multiple cut and burn kitchen accidents, a wrist injury, so much blood and it's not even exact yet. I'm FREAKING OUT.
And now COVID lol
ya astrology makes me feel like a loser, like right here in your face you see these blessings that will continue to elapse you
Interesting you mentioned both Timothy Leary and Ram Dass who were both Harvard professors and fired for their psychedelic experiments.
Not gonna lie...Saturn does stress me out. I have Saturn in Aries/6th house stelium with Mercury, Chiron, North Node, Venus Rx, and my Sun. Even my birth was traumatic resulting in injury. My health is not good and Im worried about my 2nd natal Saturn Return. My first one was scary health wise. I have worked in the healthcare service sector pretty much my whole life too.
#grabbed when Saturn was on my Moon/Uranus in 5th house (scorpio), my daughter died during childbirth. I almost dies 3x when retro Saturn transited over my natal Sun in aqua (8th) 😢
Maybe I'm too sagittarius for me to like Saturn 😅 it hasn't been easy everytime he does something to my chart
Please please please do a Mars video!!
I've been cursing Saturn alllll day today 😆
Nina was very Saturnic. Love her music and feel for her pain, but very abusive as a mother
Thank you so much for this. I have Saturn AND Pluto in the third house (Scorpio) and Chiron in the 10th house..... I would love to find out what this means. I do feel a deep sense of difficulty and fear / phobia communicating with and being understood by Authority, so maybe that's it. Anyone have any thoughts or have the same placement.....???
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You explain astrogology with well-needed nuance, as opposed to many astrologers. But what bothers me about astrology in the online space is, why is it so vague and conflicting? I am new to this, so it may be my own limitation. But, I mean to say, terms and concepts seem to be mishmashed and all over the place.
An example would be, for example, I have my SUN and VENUS in the twelth house, in the zodiac Leo.
What I don't understand is, if 12 th house represents ostracization, loss, grief, insanity, discipline, then how does that reconcile with Venus' traits and influences, which represents Wealth, Beauty, Love, Luxury, Romance, Pleasure?
I would like to point out, that since my sun is in twelth house, I would agree that the core theme of my life has been, from the day I was born, of rejection, grief, mysticism and meaning.
I would appreciate your ... Thoughts on this problem?
It's not a problem but a lack of training and understanding, and I mean absolutely no offense by that. But it's the truth. Most people need more training to understand the nuances of placements like what you described without feeling like it's a jumble of contradicting information. It's not. Most people at first just don't have the conceptual and technical training to know how to read charts, which is why we need to study more, and then it starts to make more and more sense!
@@Adam-Elenbaas I took no offence. Currently I am asking chat gpt (which might not be the best idea), but even his explanation is making a lot of sense.
Also, I do apologize if my question came across as rude or dismissive.
It only roots from my aching desire to make sense of my extremely odd inner and outer life trajectory.
I only feel, in the area of astrology, 'semantics' can play a disruptive role in correct understanding of planets. Which makes eloquence, care with terms, meanings and language a necessity and an indispensable asset. This is of course not addressed towards you, but to the general astrological landscape online.
I’m very afraid of Neptune.
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Like this episode very much 🤩 I‘m a big Saturn fan 🪐 I see it as helper at the gateway of any kind of border. I am deeply interested in experiancing the fine part of the world (the other side). My work as a Shiatsu therapist gives me great opportunity to explore energy and body. I have Saturn in my 2nd house. Opposit to merkury and sun.
This series is so valuable. thank you so much.
Nina Simone has always been very inspiring to me.
The combination of strength and poetry has always fascinated me. Now I understand ❤
First house Saturn gets easier with understanding the nature of Saturn, ironically one of its significations (the watery darkness of ignorance)
I remember my panic when I was discovering astrology as I was marching saturnicaly on my Saturn return 😂through the pop Astro content 🥲.