Very honest video on target. I use the same grinder cm 802 and I`m having all the issues you mentioned. I haven`t attempted to fine adjust the burr yet because I don`t think it`s a good idea. When I go beyond number 10, for example 5, grinder so is not able to work properly and get clogged most of the time. It has capability of grind finer but it doesn`t have the ability to push them out. Which is precisely reflected with your pump actions. It`s a good grinder when you use 10 and above settings, but when you go finer, it`s inevitable that you`ll experience issues. I feel kind of regret for buying this. I`m an espresso guy and this one doesn`t properly provide finer beans for espresso range, which is around 5.
Very great video, looking to buy one of these, lil tip is to spray a bit of water on the beans before grinding them, this works even what grinder u have👍🏼
I am going to give you a huge thanks and give myself a huge facepalm. This was actually on the handbook but I had forgotten about it and if it wasn't for your video, I would never realise it. The factory settings were spot on to use in my Krups XP50000 something with unpressurized basket but whenever I tried it on the Delonghi Dedica, also with an unpressurized basket, the coffee was too coarse. I will try this at lunch and then post the results
Al quitar los tornillos, el molido del café es más fino con diferéncia. Muchas gracias By removing the screws, the coffee grind is finer by far. Thank you very much
I need advice and opinion to the Graef hobby barista community out here. Very nice video, I was waiting for this a long time. I use my Graef cm800 for 1 year now, and it is very inconsistent as well. I found 2 more problems and a fix. First I change the grind setting to filter coffee(very coarse) and then back to my espresso setting(without changing screw setting) then I check the grind. When I change the grind setting further to "way too fine" and change it back to my espresso setting, the grind size will be finer than before when I came from the coarser setting. It's kind of a memory effect from where I came from. The coffee sometimes tastes like earth when I don't pay attention to this. Very nice video, I was waiting for this a long time. Did you realize, that the grinder is very sensitive on how the burs are put in place? I have the feeling that I don't know which screw placement. I believe my screw setting is messed up so that I get a lot of very, very fine powder in addition to the grind setting. The grind size is changing, but it is like I am in the wrong "mode" and I should change screw setting about 180 degree or some arbitrary number I don't know. Or the grinder just is like this, and it always produces very fine powder in between the grind. This is why my coffee tastes WAY better when I use under exacting grind settings, because I have less powder in between.
Thanks, interesting insights! The screw-based grind adjustment freaks me out because it's really hard to keep the track of. I only adjusted it once and left it there.
I dont understand. You use level 10 for espresso, but on the first tip you say that it is for grinding even finer.. then why dont you use simply level 1 for espresso instead of 10 + the modification?
I bought a set from Amazon for the bathroom, then realized that the small one is suitable for the grinder. You can take a look at single small ones after checking the dimensions. This was the bundle I bought back in the day: www.amazon.co.uk/nirox-Nirox-Plunger/dp/B07GRS83DD
Hello, I bought mine one month ago on Amazon warehouse and I'm only getting 0,5gr of retention, 2gr seems to be quite a lot. Regarding consistency I'm not having any issue, maybe you should buy a new burr and clean your machine. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the feedback, very valuable information for people who are considering to buy this machine. I think most of my issues are due to the machine being almost 4 years old and not being maintained well enough.
@@ColorsofSoundTH-cam Hello, yes probably. Open it completely and give it a real clean up. Burr are also really cheap for this machine so you should give it a try. Also you can buy the machine on Amazon for 60 euros (refurb).
hi there.. does anyone have the gaggia classic and the graef cm800? any recomends about grind settings and gramms? I know its depends on different factors… would be really happy
If you are pushing down, would that possibly be tightening the grinding gap also, and you could do your number 1 hack with slightly more turner s as nd lick the screws back in place?
Unfortunately it's really hard to answer... I just made 1 adjustment on the burr and used it continuously as it was possible to grind both for espresso and filter coffee on that setting.
I tried it. At first it did grind a lot finer and my coffee got a lot better, but after a few days coffee stopped coming out of the grinder. I guess the fine powder clogged it. I cleaned it and took out some of the washers which got me back to a not fine enough coffee. I wouldn't recommend this grinder to anyone wanting to grind for espresso. It's a poor choice.
The part "adjustment" helped me a lot. Now I am getting the grinding consitency which I need. Thank you very much!
Very honest video on target. I use the same grinder cm 802 and I`m having all the issues you mentioned. I haven`t attempted to fine adjust the burr yet because I don`t think it`s a good idea. When I go beyond number 10, for example 5, grinder so is not able to work properly and get clogged most of the time. It has capability of grind finer but it doesn`t have the ability to push them out. Which is precisely reflected with your pump actions. It`s a good grinder when you use 10 and above settings, but when you go finer, it`s inevitable that you`ll experience issues. I feel kind of regret for buying this. I`m an espresso guy and this one doesn`t properly provide finer beans for espresso range, which is around 5.
great video! i had trouble with my CM 800 and now i could understand how to fine tune it. saved me a lot of money, thank you so much!
Very great video, looking to buy one of these, lil tip is to spray a bit of water on the beans before grinding them, this works even what grinder u have👍🏼
I am going to give you a huge thanks and give myself a huge facepalm.
This was actually on the handbook but I had forgotten about it and if it wasn't for your video, I would never realise it.
The factory settings were spot on to use in my Krups XP50000 something with unpressurized basket but whenever I tried it on the Delonghi Dedica, also with an unpressurized basket, the coffee was too coarse.
I will try this at lunch and then post the results
I am very happy with you’re video. I have this grinder and I am happy with it. 👍🙏🤩🐕🙋🏼♂️🇳🇱✊☕️🇩🇪
Which grinder you're advise to buy?
Al quitar los tornillos, el molido del café es más fino con diferéncia. Muchas gracias
By removing the screws, the coffee grind is finer by far. Thank you very much
"If I use violence, I'm gonna get some of the beans back" great quote
I need advice and opinion to the Graef hobby barista community out here.
Very nice video, I was waiting for this a long time.
I use my Graef cm800 for 1 year now, and it is very inconsistent as well.
I found 2 more problems and a fix.
First I change the grind setting to filter coffee(very coarse) and then back to my espresso setting(without changing screw setting) then I check the grind. When I change the grind setting further to "way too fine" and change it back to my espresso setting, the grind size will be finer than before when I came from the coarser setting. It's kind of a memory effect from where I came from. The coffee sometimes tastes like earth when I don't pay attention to this. Very nice video, I was waiting for this a long time.
Did you realize, that the grinder is very sensitive on how the burs are put in place?
I have the feeling that I don't know which screw placement.
I believe my screw setting is messed up so that I get a lot of very, very fine powder in addition to the grind setting. The grind size is changing, but it is like I am in the wrong "mode" and I should change screw setting about 180 degree or some arbitrary number I don't know. Or the grinder just is like this, and it always produces very fine powder in between the grind. This is why my coffee tastes WAY better when I use under exacting grind settings, because I have less powder in between.
Thanks, interesting insights! The screw-based grind adjustment freaks me out because it's really hard to keep the track of. I only adjusted it once and left it there.
I dont understand. You use level 10 for espresso, but on the first tip you say that it is for grinding even finer.. then why dont you use simply level 1 for espresso instead of 10 + the modification?
My coffee grinder has stopped working. Do u know where in the U.K. I could get it fixed?
Lesley McBride
Thanks a lot, you saved my money 😅😅
I saw the cm 702 model. And it hides the kernels inside. Do you think it's worth getting?
Привет! Помоги разобраться в кофемолках Граеф!! На официальном сайте их всего 4 : CM 702 ' 802' 800' 900!!! КАКУЮ ВЫБРАТЬ????
Great review, thank you, I will select another grinder ;-)!
I hope you enjoy it!
Hallo,nice video.What scale do you use to cut your espresso. 10 or 15?
Thanks, usually I'm around 10, 15 has been too coarse for espresso for me.
Where can i order this "pump"?
I bought a set from Amazon for the bathroom, then realized that the small one is suitable for the grinder. You can take a look at single small ones after checking the dimensions.
This was the bundle I bought back in the day: www.amazon.co.uk/nirox-Nirox-Plunger/dp/B07GRS83DD
Hello, I bought mine one month ago on Amazon warehouse and I'm only getting 0,5gr of retention, 2gr seems to be quite a lot. Regarding consistency I'm not having any issue, maybe you should buy a new burr and clean your machine. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the feedback, very valuable information for people who are considering to buy this machine. I think most of my issues are due to the machine being almost 4 years old and not being maintained well enough.
@@ColorsofSoundTH-cam Hello, yes probably. Open it completely and give it a real clean up. Burr are also really cheap for this machine so you should give it a try. Also you can buy the machine on Amazon for 60 euros (refurb).
@@lelolain do you have any links to order the replacement burrs? Thanks!
@@lelolaindude do you have link for the burr to replace for this machine?
hi there.. does anyone have the gaggia classic and the graef cm800? any recomends about grind settings and gramms? I know its depends on different factors… would be really happy
It’s trial and error, but do make the burr chamber adjustment I mention in the video.
If you are pushing down, would that possibly be tightening the grinding gap also, and you could do your number 1 hack with slightly more turner s as nd lick the screws back in place?
Definitely, the moment I realized the difference after pushing down, my game has stepped up with this grinder.
How many of the adjustment dots on the outside of the machine would you say is the equivalent of one screw hole?
Unfortunately it's really hard to answer... I just made 1 adjustment on the burr and used it continuously as it was possible to grind both for espresso and filter coffee on that setting.
I tried it. At first it did grind a lot finer and my coffee got a lot better, but after a few days coffee stopped coming out of the grinder. I guess the fine powder clogged it. I cleaned it and took out some of the washers which got me back to a not fine enough coffee.
I wouldn't recommend this grinder to anyone wanting to grind for espresso. It's a poor choice.
I used it for over a year and it worked great for espresso
@@ruinerblodsinn6648I've used this grinder for 10 years now and it still grinds fine enough to choke my espresso machine.
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Horrible espresso grinder, it just doesn’t work.