The REAL Reason Hades Kept Meg Under His Control For So Long...
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- The REAL Reason Hades Kept Meg Under His Control For So Long...| Disney's Hercules
Hades had to be one of the most charismatic villains in all of Disney history, which is probably why he was so likable despite being such a bad guy. In fact, several times throughout Hercules, it almost seemed like Hades wasn’t the actual villain at all, but instead was simply a misunderstood and mistreated sibling to the more powerful Gods. Interestingly enough, there’s actually a theory that claims Hades was the true hero of Hercules. And to make things even crazier, this theory also implies that the dark God of the Underworld had a secret motive for taking Meg’s soul that actually makes a lot of sense.
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In Greekolgy Hades is actually a good guy. Zeus did more horrible and disgusting things than what Hades did
Ikr
He's not particularly good, he kidnapped his wife. He just usually keeps to himself.
@I Scheele compared to Zeus Hades is a Saint, besides that he was supposedly pretty chill
@@bellaknightR597 thanks
@@ischeele7203 there is that version that, Zeus allowed hades to take Persephone as he was in love with her, I recommend looking at the video that Red from OSP made
i feel bad for hades and meg both got the short end of the stick meg got hurt when her ex broke her heart and hades just wanted to keep things balanced
He was also just doing his job. Hades never actually lied to Hercules at any point in the movie and he did let him retrieve Meg’s soul after she had died and did tell Hercules that he would die in the process and he wasn’t wrong as it was only gaining immortality at the literal last second that saved him and helped him succeed. Hades didn’t pull any other tricks to prevent Hercules from leaving the Underworld.
I always felt like there was an older brother/younger sister kind of relationship between Hades and Meg. I mean, he never outright abused Meg, just manipulated her for his agenda and he was pretty fair with his dealings. Always gave others a chance instead of just outright killing them.
Actually NOT killing them makes a lot of sense when you conisder who he is... If you dissapoint or annoy him, why whould he want you in his undworld you any sooner than is nessary. So long as you are living you are someone elses problem.
In mythology Hades is actually pretty nice worst thing he ever did was kidnapped his wife.
Zeus on the other hand there's a laundry list of things and several words I'm not allowed to say.
Ikr, the kidnapping is the only thing people have to argue against people saying that Hades was one of the nicer gods. They don't have anything else😂
Yes, but there are other stories where it says Zeus gave Hades his daughter and made his wife go crazy
Not something you hear every day. “Great guy, worst thing he ever did was kidnap a girl, force her to marry him, and trick her into being cursed to stay with him half the year.”
@@allainef4f true but another stories people have said that Persephone found a way through the underworld through the back door so something else to think about
That's quite an interesting theory, I never thought about it like that but my favourite story in Greek mythology is of Hades and Persephone falling in love. He kidnapped her and took her to the underworld, worried that she might become homesick since her mother is responsible for keeping the world alive with harvest, he had beautiful gardens built for her.
The finest love story, if I ever heard one👍
@@cjmob123 it's right up there with Romeo and Juliet
the "beginning" and the "end" should never have been together
What about the story of Orpheus
I always saw Hades as a neutral character that nay wanted some respect and a different position in Greek deity lineup. He was also just making sure a prophecy that the Fates had made come true and we know that ancient Greeks did take prophecies as serious matters.
I’d have more sympathy for Hades if he was actually kind to the souls in the underworld instead of treating them like servants or pests.
We had to learn about Greek mythology in school back in the 90s and 2000s. I remember being unable to do my assignment because it was about Zeus, and I learned he had r-worded his own sister (his canonical wife btw) who married him out of shame. He also r-worded a lot of other women. When people tell me that Hercules he is the son of Zeus, my reaction is "Yeah, him and every other idiot in greece". So, Disney did us a huge favor by rewriting the real villain, who has always been Zeus. When you look into the myth9ology (be prepared to dislike the greek gods, you've been warned. lots of r-wording, even on the floor of a goddess's throne) Hades really is more of a hero than any of the other gods
4:29 *younger brother. Zeus is the youngest of his siblings. Hades, Poseidon, Hestia, Demeter and Hera (yes, that Hera) are all older than him.
Hades I the oldest of the 3 brothers and gives off major middle sibling energy 😂
Hades is the eldest in the actual myths but the youngest in the Disney version
Too bad they didn't tell the actual story from Greek mythology. Zeus wasn't a caring loving father like the movie portrayed, and Hercules wasn't Hera's son either. But unfortunately not a "kid friendly" story.
In Greek Mythos Hades is the oldest, then Poseidon, and Zeus is the baby with Hera, Hestia, and Demeter being his older sisters as the story goes.
No wonder Zeus acts like a baby
@GoingWeird 😂 no, the Ancients described the Gods as being just as flawed as humans.
Hades is my favorite God and Disney Villain
Actually, it was Hiura that threw the Smithy God off of mass Olympus when she saw him, although Zeus was a philanderer, who couldn’t keep it in his chiton
Maybe that is why Hades skulked around the party before making his presence known.
He wanted to see if Hercules was as powerful as he fear and Zeus as careless as knew knew and thought.
And seeing the kid lift Zeus so easily being praised by Zeus
As well as taking a Thunder bolt Zeus over rulling Hera in taking it away and being carefree in how Zeus threw the bolt nearing hitting many gods and goddesses until (I think) Aries deflected it into a column.
And I bet he offered when he offered the candy he expected Hercules to grab his finger because children do that all the time and see if Zeus would chastise Hercules for hurting someone else or apologize to Hades for that happening or somehow take accountability.
BUT NO instead Zeus made jokes and clearly didn't care about Hercules hurting others.
That wasn't candy. I've read that it was rattle of some kind
@@bellaknightR597 oh but why did he call it a sucker?
I always liked Hades in the mythology, he seems allot more reasonable than his brothers Zeus and Poseidon.
if i remember correctly hera was hercs tru villain out of rage and jealousy she had tricked herc into killing his family and tormented him. she also butchered anouther one of zueses sons multiple times till it stuck.
This is what good writing and good acting do to make a movie timeless... James woods rocked this role ❤❤❤
I still think it's disrespectful to Hades from the story and none of what is seen in this video justifies hades breaking the titans out of Tartarus
Plus what he say's about Zeus destructive tendency, while ignoring the scenes in the temple when former gives advise on how to be hero to his son Hercules makes this video indirect weak attempt at justifying Villain bad deeds, while also ignoring Hades attempts of killing Hercules in various ways, endangering other people and his goal of taking over mount olympus.
There's only two versions of Hades I like. James Woods version and Hades from Lore Olympus. Plus yeah like everyone said...Hades was never a bad guy!! I wish people would stop making him so... Its the same for Anubis.
I love Disney Hercules it was one of my favorite Disney movies growing up
Hades was definitely the best part about
Yes I could see how he would be a good guy
Meg is my favorite woman Disney character that not a Disney princess
But dang she should be
Plus Hades is the only god that did his job
What about Hermes the messager god
@@Charlottemarriott780 Hermes was actually pretty funny in the movie to
@@rowlandandrew9597 it’s rare to have someone that can both do their job well and be funny about it
I thought Hades really wasn’t the bad guy but rather misunderstood and that he was only doing his job. Plus all he wanted was a change of scenery since being surrounded by dead people for centuries would eventually become depressing. Hades never actually deceived Hercules and he did give him a chance to retrieve Meg’s soul.
1 thing about Meg and Hades specifically is he might have also tried to protect her from the other gods such as his brother thunder and nephew the Sun.
We all know Zeus and while in the movie his creating was not addressed and reckoned for Hercules it doesn't mean that he still wasn't like that but why would Hercules ask about that and why would anything tell him about that
And while Apollo isn't the same he still causes problems in his love life mostly in that often they get crushed does young or both (certain expectations so exist please see Greek Mythology for more information)
And also I have heard things that indicate he might have been protecting him from Poseidon too.
Under his aegis he can tell them to back off she's under his domain not any of their's and (reluctantly) back down.
Which may disillusion Meg more if she knew and just views him as a lame boss and the other gods as just uncaring about individuals if she doesn't know.
not sure 🤔 but my guess is probably both the villain 🦹♀️ and the hero 🦸♀️ of the story 😉
I agree with you he was secretly the hero
We can also delve into Zeus' criteria for Hercules to restore his godhood by becoming a "true hero."
When Hercules overcame adversity, saved countless people, and became a positive role model for the masses to aspire to, this wasn't enough to satisfy Zeus, and instead of explaining things and instructing him, you know, that thing fathers are supposed to do for their kids, he peaces out of the conversation and leaves Hercules confused and frustrated.
The action which ultimately makes Hercules a 'true hero' and restores his godhood? Self-sacrifice; altruism. Giving up his life for the wellbeing of another. It happened to be the woman he loved, but when Zeus explained the nature of his 'true heroism', he described Meg as "that girl." Implying that sacrificing his life for *any* other person would have worked. For Zeus, being a 'true hero' doesn't mean doing good and having integrity, it means self-sacrifice.
To all the children who watch this, don't believe Disney's version of Greek mythology, because you're gonna fail big time 🤣
In mythology class of course.
Actually, it would either be history or English class because there is no class specifically based on mythology @Herofactory-qi2xz
@@Larka661 Is that so?
Yes, because mythology isnt a subject in school. @Herofactory-qi2xz
Only images if the hades in the movie was like the mythology hades I'm sure we would love hades even more than we already do
i agree with most of this except one aspect..: Hades Freeing the Titans from Tartarus/Tartaros.. if he wanted to keep the Gods and Herc in check, therefore keeping the world Below safe, Why release the Titans at all? all that would have done is end the lives of Millions if not Billions of people thus sending countless more souls down to the underworld for Hades to torment. Yes Zeus would have died in the Titan attack. But the Titans would have killed EVERYONE ON EARTH if not reined in. Hades would not have been able to keep the Titans under his control forever nor does he have the power to send them back by himself. He is certainly NOT the good guy by any means
He is in real life
@@bellaknightR597 thats true
Thing is, both Posiedon and Hades were the OLDER brothers in the Greek Mythos. Also, Hades KIDNAPPED his "wife" Persephone and tricked her to marry him and force her to live in the Underworld.
There’s a version where hades fell in love with Persephone and Zeus allowed her to kidnap her, hence blaming everything on Zeus
@@Ghost_a_Rat And that said "kidnapping" was more of a fiance pre-wedding tradition than an actual kidnapping.
Then there's another version where the blame can actually go to Aphrodite and Eros, bored and looking for people to make fall in love. Queue Hades taking a stroll out of the underworld and the two love gods decide he's been alone down there enough, fire an arrow at him right as he passes by Persephone and Demeter's abode.
True, but the other bros are worse. Check the story of Medusa and alll of Zeus's other half mortal kids and their moms.
@ 4:19 Ehm... Hephaestus, what are you looking at? xD
I feel this is just a head canon because he Hades in the movie overthrows all the gods and frees the titans that didn't care for humans at all.
Does Hermes know he just got confused for Poseidon?
Hades was just doing his job, he was hated for being something he wqs not just cuz he had that kind of a job.... keeping the balance betweent the world of the living and the dead
Interesting theory, but there is still one glaring hole for me. If the theory is at least mostly correct, then why was he planning to release the Titans? Even if he did think that a Zues raised Hercules was a bad thing he was still planning on releasing the Titans with or without Hercules being born and still would attack the other gods and release the Titans with full knowledge of the danger and devastation that would come from that. If you can explain why he would release the Titans to keep the balance between the Mortal and Immortal world, then I will be more willing to believe the theory.
He is a good guy 10000000%
I do not believe that Mal in Descendants father is actually good considering that he is a Disney villain after all.
So just because the parents are evil doesn't mean the kids will be. Evil isn't genetic.
This theory falls apart when you take into consideration that the rest of the gods on Olympus were either siblings to Zeus or Zeus’ children. If this unbalance were to be true, then Hades would have had to restore balance by destroying all the other gods. And in doing so, Hades would still be the villain.
I don’t need your protection
it hades was such a good guy why release the titans
I think the theory has a lot of merit, though the trying to take over olympus was likely fuled at least partialy by hades resentment
your telling me Hades had feelings for meg?
GREAT VIDEO DELUXE DISNEY'S MEG BACKSTORY.
It's always a good wife who has to reign in an over zealous man.
The music you used here really makes me restless and nervous. I was unable to listen to the words and wanting to skip forward. Would you kindly use a more calm tune in future videos? :) That would be very helpful to take in the information better.
Hades good guy
Yesssss 👀🔥🔥👀
My favorite god in Greek mythology is Hypnos the god of sleep he has great stories and I do love hades in Disney’s Hercules but they should’ve really be Achilles because that was Hercules Greek name
My favorite Disney villain is the shadow man from the princess and the frog😅
Achilles is a completely different character. The true name is Heracles which means glory to Hera. The reason that name was chosen was because In the original myth Hercules was the son of Zeus and a mortal woman. So it was basically Zeus’s way of saying sorry I cheated
@@timothynunan8601 okay okay good to know someone else who knows Greek mythology in my experience that a rare
Do you have a bass knowledge or do you have a interest in Greek mythology?
There is a giant hole in you theory which I otherwise find compelling.
Why bring the Titans back?
He did not then bring them out say ok you're free serve me because I caused it to happen which would be an exploration of those kinds of natural phenomena just remove Polythemus over there and set up for a second movie where the gods and Hercules seal them into Pandora's box.
Or Hades loses control of them and Hercules helps him seal them and explain all this to him before his job to keep balance and win Hercules over our fail to buy still get his help because many giant monsters wrecking havoc
Meg is kinda hot Get it? hot? Fire puns!!😂
Interesting
I just want to put my input on things I know so here's what I know. Yes, Hades is not a bad guy. He didn't even want to go to his nephew's christening. He was just doing his job also. Hear me out and Greek mythology. There is Persephone Queen of the underworld and the goddess of spring and one of the stories Zeus gave up his daughter Persephone and she married Hades also. One more thing. Hercules was born mortal Zeus had gotten immortal pregnant also. Hades didn't hate Hercules hadiest asked Hercules if he could tame service. Just an input.
He married Demeter's Daughter?
I guess kratos did the right thing by killing Zeus huh.
I think Zeus did fear Hercules overthrowing him as Super Cool God King Emperor of Everything which is why he made Hercules prove himself a true hero and when he asked for a life with Meg he stripped away his immortality rather than give the new motorized Meg her own immortality after all she proved the size of her heart being big and heroic by LITERALLY DYING for Hercules true under her servitude with Hades she was immortal but she knew she was as Hades himself put "off the hook" she knew now death was possible and still gave her life for Hercules
So by the speciality of True Hero Zeus gave to Hercules she passed and was able to gain Immortality and goddesshood too.
Instead Zeus feared being usurped in the future made his son mortal again.
This is revisionist. reason being, a lot of the gods have dominion over a lot of natural aspects and they aren't as destructive about it. there is no reason to think that Hercules would have been destructive if he have had his full powers. The reason he was destructive as a mortal is because his parents had no means to get him to control his strength as it was godly. no way hades actually cares about mortals on that level, that's wishful thinking.
You don’t protect
Her royal fakeness
🤔
nno