acasia lee what do you think of Jim Jeffery's opinion on gun control? I know it's ignorant of me to ask if you even know about it, just because you're from the country. I'm just curious.
M H the per capita murder and violent crime rate (including breaking and entering) is all that matters. Iceland is always going to have a lower murder rate than the US even if Iceland legalized murder. This is due to the population difference. Per capita is the most important.
The Romans had it right the first time: commit a serious crime, and you get nailed to a long wood board, mounted through the hands and feet and let to bleed slowly. Scared mostly everyone but the most evil well into order back then.
Ben, you're so smart so when you make an error that is fairly easily checked, I'm sad. Full auto firearms are NOT illegal, just heavily regulated (see: NFA of 1934). The Hughes amendment prohibited non-LE/Mil people from purchasing _newly manufactured_ (after May 19, 1986) machine guns. People can buy and own firearms that were registered before that date, if they have the cash and can pass the ATF check. As noted below, a 3-round burst would be a feature in a select-fire weapon. Semi-auto weapons just reload after each trigger pull. There are so devices that allow a semi-auto to fire like a full auto (e.g., Bumpfire stock). Under these circumstances, the assailant could have used regular semi-autos with possibly similar results, due to the defenselessness of the victims and the distance from the attacker. As I noted in another video, "sawed-off" (or short barrel) shotguns are also covered under the NFA and require a ATF check.
What about the 2 minutes he spends in this video talking about how heavily regulated automatic weapons are and that they are only illegal for the people who have jumped through the numerous hoops incurred?
I find it pretty disgusting that people are trying to politicize this tragedy just a day after. Have a fucking heart. The only thing we should be concerned about right now is helping the victims, and trying to understand what exactly happened.
goodgirl140 It disgusts me that these heartless "people" (Can we even call them that?) try to use this massacre as an opportunity to push their agendas. How senseless can one be?
I find your virtue signaling pretty disgusting. It's important to know where (politically) this is coming from and if you don't like it then you can stfu and go stick your head back in the sand.
No, Ben.... With semi-automatic weapons, you don't hear "bursts" of 3 shots. They only fire one single shot for each time you pull the trigger. These bursts only happen with AUTOMATIC weapons, that have a selector for SEMI / AUTO / BURST / SAFE. The BURST and AUTO are not present on civilian issues. Only FIRE / SAFE options.
It's over now. Had to do some community service. But, since I graduated from law school, I've always kept my eyes opened, and there was a presidential pardon that our corrupt female president (we kicked her out last year) gave to benefit some criminals from her political party that were convicted of corruption. Since the pardon was for all who got less than 4,5 years, and had already done over 1/4 of whatever the penalty was, I called my lawyer and we succeeded in obtaining the pardon. So, I didn't do much, anyway, and didn't pay the fine either. And the asshole got crushed by a truck!! Karma is a bitch!! LOL
M240 bravo's don't stutter like the bump stock was doing. The fire rate was not consistent. I agree with drum or large magazines though. Watch some bump stock videos. th-cam.com/video/pqxoiAjSrAU/w-d-xo.html
Half of the "comments" coming out of the left at the moment are something along the lines of "they deserved it". I would say unbelievable... but I know the definition of that word.
Claudius Atlas Shit talking key board warrior then goes on to politicize the shit out of this incident... "fuck you and fuck your guns" right boy?... Good one slugger.
I'm not an American and I don't live in America so I don't really have a dog in this fight when it comes to gun laws in the US. On the one hand it seems like common sense to me for guns not to be freely available to every Tom, Dick & Harry to just walk in to a store and buy one. But that is because i live in a nation (The UK) where hardly anyone has guns. Even most of the police don't have guns here! On the other hand, I read that the USA has more guns than people. So again my common sense reaction would be that if you outlawed guns tomorrow then the only people who would be disarmed would be people who do not want to break the law i.e. the kind of people who pose no threat to anyone in the first place. Murderers, rapists, bank robbers, gangsters etc.... Do not care about the law. Murder, rape, theft etc... are ALREADY illegal yet criminals still do that stuff, so why would anyone expect them to obey gun laws when they don't obey any other law? It's too late to ban guns in America (wether you agree with guns or not) and the best way to minimise overall crime is to make sure as many good guys have guns and as few bad guys have them as possible. Banning guns would have the exact opposite effect of that and leave the good guys unarmed and at the mercy of the bad guys.
Semi automatic fires one shot per trigger pull, not a "burst". A burst would fall under the classification of a fully automatic firearm. See previous comment.
+Colin O'Meara People like you fail to think about the future. The Germans were the most popular example of how a government can turn on its people. Automatic weapons are completely necessary.
ThatBugBehindYou disagree. You got to be kidding me! How often does the government turn on a country and require you to need an automatic weapon?? You’re talking about a situation 80 years ago!! The risk of innocent people being killed by automatic guns (which as you know, are deadly weapons designed to kill at a rapid rate with high efficiency) far outweighs the risk of the government turning on you and having you needing such a weapon. Next thing you know you’re going to say in case of a zombie apocalypse. Unbelievable how adamant some people are about having these weapons. A laughing stock to the rest of the world at the pure stupidity. It really is baffling
You should be the President for the entire human race. Less emotions more facts & always offering solutions. Too much class mate. God bless you! a fan from the Fiji Islands
I think Ben would agree with me that we should put our faith in God, not men. Even if the man in question is Ben Shapiro. He's not infallible and he has acknowledged mistakes in the past. That said, I think he simply misspoke. Lord knows I couldn't speak for an hour on the air every weekday without misspeaking. Hell, I feel good if I can make it 10 minutes.
Attacks like this are why I support the death penalty. I know the attacker is dead, but people who carry out or even help cause events like this do not deserve to live.
Agreed with the distrust of court systems. Sometimes people are found to he innocent all along AFTER being executed. Whoops! Can we put them back together again?
Ben, could you make more videos on schooling people about morals as a way to prevent things like this. Also I would like to hear more about this book and what it talks about. Thank you may Christ guide you, although I know you don't believe in him.
For all the people claiming Ben is politicizing this and standing in their graves I strongly disagree. It's one thing to discuss current affairs, it's another to use a particular incident for your political agenda. Ben clearly stated at the beginning of the show that it's important to wait for the facts to come out before making any cases. He talks only facts. Sure he talks about gun control too, but not this particular situation. He is being patient and reasonable of this situation while the rest of the media goes batshit. Those are my two cents.
No, it's quite clear that he's already formed the conclusion in his mind that this is a mental health issue and that he's just waiting for information that vaguely relates to a mental health issue so that he can turn the issue into one that can be used to fuel his anti-mental disability bias. Ben has long been quick to blame mental disorders for mass shootings. He outright stated this on Piers Morgan's show and on Dave Rubin's as well. Ben cites no scientific evidence to back up his claim that mental disabilities are the cause for mass shootings and ignores the evidence that shows that mental disabilities have virtually no relation to violence, and that many other characteristics are better predictors of violence such as being male, being a substance abuser, and having a previous history of violence. Ben even just randomly brought up mental illness out of nowhere in the video, which further shows that he's looking to preemptively blame this on some unclear problem in the mental health system, and blame psychiatrists for not being able to predict who's going to go on a mass murdering rampage even though they aren't trained nor expected in any way, shape or form to possess an ability to know who is going to act out violently.
As far as I can tell, the shooter's father was an abusive psychopath who was locked in prison when he was just a few years old. He escaped prison again when he was fifteen and then was locked up again when the shooter was in his mid-twenties. This seems like a case where the shooter was abused by his father when he was young, had a hard life, then decided to go out with a bang and kill people.
Elaine Teut stop watching TV. All TV news is fake news. You need to get your news from MULTIPLE online sources so you can check sources and compare narratives
Adam Flaherty my guess (this is purely from my 'imagination') is that the shooter lived a long boring normal life and up to his sixties he relised that he was going to die without making an impact and so decided to "go out with a bang". It explains why his brother saw no signs because he said the last time he saw him was 6 months ago and so the shooters plan must've been recently and also why he went through the effort of amassing 23 guns, modifying them, sending his girlfriend on a vacation just to steal her hotel key card, and killed himself just as the police arrived because he knew he made his mark on the world.
NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving - which is a privilege, not a right - then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege. - DJT
RB Fx Trading Coach At least he's common sense on Islam mistreating people. Honestly think he just needs a good discussion with the right person and some scary data sheets to look at.... I don't like to think he's knowingly saying wrong things, he's honestly just surrounded by different culture. Needs to visit US and speak to intellectual constitutionalists and be faced with "If made illegal only criminals have the most dangerous equipment, up to the point that the government can easily take notice such as with a tank Or aeroplane... Then again the pentagon did lose all those millions back before 9/11...." Honestly I think that because of his position as a teacher of evolution he is only really exposed to a certain community, and misses out on the philosophical and logical consequences in legal matters... But maybe that's just me....
I think it's highly possible it was someone else that killed him and left the scene...Why would this man break two different windows? Why would a 64 year old with a great life who had planes and multiple house's with no known criminal back ground do this? Why would he just randomly snap like this? Of the gun stores that he "shopped" at the staff interviewed said he had boughten handguns and a shotgun, clearly not the weapon used. He had a girlfriend and had been married before he had called his family in FL to make sure their ok after IRMA? doesn't sound like someone who'd commit such a heinous act. I think we all need much more info to jump to conclusion because it really doesn't seem like he'd fit the profile for something like this. Also as a side note why would he bring 10 plus weapons into the hotel room? I mean you'd only need one rifle to "get the job done". Anyways we need to save judgment for second and find out everything possible about this case then we can judge. Also we need surveillance tapes from the hotel released.
GracetheGreat ridiculous suggestion. Jail is hell? Haha no no, not for a man like that. For him, a man who wants to die anyways, should be dropped off in the hostile middle east wrapped in American flags. Let THEM skin him alive by people as crazy as he is. This is why the death penalty is needed...
I think it's highly possible it was someone else (or more) that killed him and left the scene...Why would this man break two different windows? Why would a 64 year old with a great life who had planes and multiple house's with no known criminal back ground do this? Why would he just randomly snap like this? Of the gun stores that he "shopped" at the staff interviewed said he had boughten handguns and a shotgun, clearly not the weapon used. He had a girlfriend and had been married before he had called his family in FL to make sure their ok after IRMA? doesn't sound like someone who'd commit such a heinous act. I think we all need much more info to jump to conclusion because it really doesn't seem like he'd fit the profile for something like this. Also as a side note why would he bring 10 plus weapons into the hotel room? I mean you'd only need one rifle to "get the job done". Anyways we need to save judgment for second and find out everything possible about this case then we can judge. Also we need surveillance tapes from the hotel released.
i hate richard dawkins i read some of his books he's INSANELY biased to the point where is is stupidly close-minded. he makes fallacious arguments and ALWAYS ignores the main point. he skittles around the main point to try to force some agenda and he's really condescending. not a fan of him.
Love you man blessing upon your family I can't stop watching your lectures or anything bc it's true and real I don't like the thug stuff but it's ok I know that's not you I do think your our next president seriously your qualified bro⚡🔑💟
I am not for nor against guns. Im much more against the people behind them that use it to murder innocent lives. Still, I would like to hear exactly HOW banning guns would be useful, as I do lean a little more on honoring the amendment that gives us the right to bear arms. If someone could explain their side well, please feel free.
There is no sound argument from gun-controllers about this. It's basically just "pass more laws because it will make government bigger and the citizens smaller." It will make a lot of idiots _feel_ better too of course. But no, it won't actually prevent bizarre mass-murder scenarios like this from happening. A major breakthrough for me was when I was a university student and at the same time I was learning about guns and developing them as a hobby: I realized that there were tons of laws and rules and funding and that there would be severe consequences; but that there was nothing that could actually stop a person from buying a couple guns (legally OR illegally), putting them in a backpack, walking into a populated area on campus, and murdering a bunch of people.
I know it's kind of a comedy skit but honestly checkout John olivers gun laws about Australia. As an Australian I've never been in fear of being shot, only when I served in the military and was deployed did I gain an actual understanding of why they should be banned. A gun literally let's you point click and end another person's life...that's a pretty insane thing when you break it down.
+Curtis Russell The same concept of "point and click" applies to various melee weapons like knives, clubs, etc. Not to mention explosives, trucks, the list goes on. We only have ~11,000 homicides in the US yearly with firearms, including JUSTIFIABLE self-defense by citizens and police officers, not to mention mere accidents. Consider the fact that over 300 million people live in The United States, and that we are a free and open society with importance placed on the freedom of individuals. Does it surprise you then to find the extremely rare case now and then where some psychopath abuses those liberties and tries/succeeds to murder strangers for no real reason? And do you realize how much robbery/rape/murder is PREVENTED yearly by weapons in the hands of common citizens (in the US)? It's in the tens of thousands, easily.
Ben says a semi auto is a 3 round burst and that it is legal. A 3 round burst is considered an automatic weapon and most (if not all) weapons that fire a 3 round burst can also be automatic. A 3 round burst weapon is banned in the National Firearms Act of 86'. It's no big deal just an FYI with all the fake news about guns going around.
Orthodox Jews do not believe in hell. Highly christianized, super moderate American jews pretend to be very orthodox, but they tend to adopt Christian teachings that do not exist in the Torah, "Hell" being one of them
Well I mean we believe in a type of hell kinda, called gehinom where one is purified (through punishment) after death until they are able to go to heaven
AnonymousSources actually its extremely hard to do properly. The parts are not readily available at all, fulk auto sears are very hard to get and are very very heavily regulated. If you try to modify your own semi automatic weapon to be full auto its usually impossible, or it will fire until empty uncontrollably.
With the right tools and materials you could make a f117 as well. The point Vulphulx was making is that it is more difficult to convert semi to fully auto. To convert an Ar15 you would need a complete new m16 receiver. Saying that it could be done with a skilled gunsmith equipped with a fully stocked workshop doesn't refute that.
Rarely known fact: A silencer does does not actually silence conventional ammo. A big part of the sound of a gun is the shock wave of the bullet travelling above the speed of sound thru the air. If you want to shoot a gun on the range with a silencer and no hearing protection, you will need to make sure you purchase ammo where the bullet travels below the speed of sound.
Ben's reputation is built mostly on his je ne sais quoi. Simply put, it is his pious tone and immovable posture that creates the illusion of intellectual infallibility. But alas, he is just like us. Emotional and irrational at times, obstinate and beholding of erroneous views. Yeah, he's not always right... (correct). And I think he is someone who rarely concedes defeat. Anyway. Ben is clearly driven by emotional hysteria in this video, and makes claims that if an opponent made, would be torn to shreds. Like the religious barb, stupid. Probably regrets it I'd reckon. Or the fully-automatic weapon rubbish in the opening few minutes. His incorrect claim was made in haste before the knowledge of bumpstocks was realized. So, he's gone off half cocked in his attacks on the left. This is not his finest hour. Stick to taxation and trickle down economics, that's my advice.
few points to be made... A)this video should be ad-free. I think its very insensitive to talk about a subject as grave as this. 13 minutes in and i'm being sold a bouquet of cinnamon cider roses. B) Perhaps even more insensitive is people, like ben, pushing their political agenda so shortly after a tragedy has occurred. Obviously this is a pressing issue, but I personally believe that this time should be dedicated to grieving for the families who lost loved ones and encouraging support for those who were wounded. C)fully auto weapons are not illegal. They are very regulated as you mentioned, but they can still be legally acquired if you really want...just requires passing ATF check and a fair sum of money
We are all inherently evil. If God hadn’t placed limitations into humanity, we’d tear each other apart instantly. Sin is the problem, Jesus is the solution! Prayers for all the victims families.
It was a bump stock. They have made a open ended bill to ban any rate increasing device. Keep your ears to the ground people. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile.
The importance of the silencer would be to hide the muzzle flash, you can see this flash in the video. so in this case it would have made a difference... But I agree Hillary's tweet is in poor taste
Flash hiders are legal, cost $30, and can be put on a gun in 5min. You don’t need a silencer to hide flash. If you used a silencer with full auto like that, you would start seeing fireballs spitting out the end of the silencer. It would not do much. Also, the sound you hear in the vids are from the bullets passing the sound barrier. Since the shooter is far away, you don’t hear the muzzle. A silencer would not stop the bullets from breaking the sound barrier, and so it would have sounded the same. The asshole who shot up everyone would have just had less hearing damage... until he killed himself of course
Yeah so maybe you can't see the muzzle flash in the video, but people on the ground said they saw it.. I only commented because there is a tiny bit of truth in what Hillary said. Not that I agree with her timing or agenda, but Ben didn't really show both sides of the argument.
Not how silencers work at all... your talking going from jet engine to jack hammer in decibels. A gun with a silencer(in these calibers) is still very loud.
Quick side note. There is no such thing as a "silencer." There are only SUPPRESSORS which try to lessen part of the sounds created. The whole James Bond "silenced" gun thing just isn't true. This shooter in Las Vegas is a terrible person. Thanks to everyone helping in any way.
agreed, 59 dead over 500 hurt, by one man, time to seriously look at what weapons are allowed to be purchased. I don't have a problem with someone having a pistol at there home to protect family, but to purchase these machine guns, is crazy.
Jocko Adams but a cars sole purpose isn't to kill something, a gun serves no other purpose then to fire a piece of metal at near 1000m a second and end the life of whatever it's aiming at. I agree that the vast majority of people who own guns will never do something like this but the problem is that it only takes one person to commit an act like last Vegas.
I would like to know who sold all those guns to the Las Vegas monster. Was it a legal transaction? Was everything done by the book? If the answer is yes, then the rational byproduct would be to ban all outdoor concert areas surrounded by tall buildings. If the answer is no, I would like to see those guys facing the music and getting themselves some nasty jail terms. That's called responsibility. You own your gun and you also bear the responsibility for their use. And I'm also for traceability , you know, being able to trace the origins of all firearms.
th-cam.com/video/_U6tORrODJE/w-d-xo.html Here is an example of it. A bump stock (or slide stock) is a buttstock with a recoil spring in the rear pad, so that when the gun fires, it pushes back towards you, then recoils it forwards again. The way you use it is to not actually pull the trigger with your finger- you keep your trigger finger stiff over the trigger, then push forward on the gun, and the recoiling allows it to be repeatedly pushed into your trigger finger. Two things to take from this demonstration is that: 1. The fire rate is erratic, and inconsistent. 2. This shooter has practiced the tactic of bump shooting with this tool. The fire rate in the Vegas shooting was completely consistent throughout the volley of fire, only stopping to feed the gun with more ammunition (which could have only been a belt-fed, not magazine-fed). A lot of ranges don't allow you to use bump stocks, even though they are legal, and it requires a lot of range time to understand the way to accurately, and correctly fire with a bump stock. Bump stock shooting also changes when firing at different angles (firing upwards / downwards), and since he was dozens of stories up, he had to have been firing at near a 45 degree angle downwards, which would make it harder to keep the fire rate consistent. I am looking more into the incident now, and there are early reports (which are usually very hard to trust), that bump stocks, AND fully automatic weapons were found in his room, so as I concede that I can always be wrong.
bob thornton yeah. I've been searching up and down the internet for pictures and have not found any with traces of blood or anything of that matter but I'm still waiting to conclude if this is "real or whatever"
Ben, I agree with your views but you (and dailywire) should have stepped outside the normal video format, by removing sponsors from this video and demonetized it. Or else it just looks disingenuous to profit off tragedy. Phill Defranco's coverage of this story had absolutely no sponsorship and stated he is demonetizing it himself.
I have no problem with it. He has to do it because of his contract with the sponsor. Plus he has to make money to bring us the content we watch because videos and camera and space cost.
Talking Head his sponsers are what makes his show possible, eitherwise he wouldnt be able to talk about this stuff. i see the logic behind it so its fine to me
you always sounded smart when I watched you but you have not done your research this time Ben Shapiro ! semi-auto means every time you pull the trigger one bullet comes out! a burst fire is what the military uses firing a 3 round burst on the standard M16 A2 not the M4 which is capable of Full Auto and all of the above . fully auto is when you hold the trigger down and it continuously fires until the magazine is empty.
Respect blood...don't inject someone else's soul into your body. Only the soul of Jesus saves us from infinite death, and soon he will deliver us eternal life as was promised by God. Amen
You're saying that my blood cells contain my soul? What's your reasoning for saying that? Can I donate bone marrow? Can I donate a kidney to a loved one?
Brendan Galvin I would like to let you know if she does truly believe this (about the soul) then she never has picked up a Bible. Or if she did it’s she needs to read it closer and in context because I can tell you it’s not correct.. by far.
If you take all the gun deaths (excluding democide ) in U.S.history and add them all up,that number would pale in comparison to the number of deaths that would occur if we banned all guns. Much like the drug war the "solution" would be far worse.
Dawkins.. this isn't truly relevant since it is just In response to an off the cuff remark, but I despise that guy, and I am an agnostic. He has given up on learning, saying you know something you can't know and dismissing these great religious works that have helped me endlessly as a writer and thinker is so ignorant. He is a believer and by choosing to believe in something he can't know he has abandoned his determination to find the truth; a lifetime of pursuit is not a waste of time.
Ben could you provide us with the reference of that book on evil? I'm not native English speaker & cant catch the author's name - and I could use it for a dissertation myself. Thank you!
Ben, semi auto is when you pull the trigger, one bullet comes out, and you must let go and repull the trigger to fire another. full auto is when you pull and hold the trigger and bullets continuously come out. What you're describing is burst fire and it's considered a form of full auto fire.
Your great Ben, but you need to educate yourself a little more about guns before going on air. You got the auto vs semi-auto thing pretty much completely wrong.
i live in Brazil, a country that has 70.000 MURDERS per year [not counting the unclear cases or the 'disappearance' cases], and having to deal with the media hotshots here saying ON AIR that 'there must be something wrong with the U.S.' makes me wanna throw up.
Ben - semi-auto is not burst fire. That's an optional setting for a full auto. A semi auto requires a separate trigger pull for each shot. We can't be certain, yet, that this was the shooter. He wasn't hard to find. There was a window broken out. Is it POSSIBLE that someone else was the shooter and used this guy as a patsy? 10 rifles there, but seems that he only used 1 or 2. So why have 10? Why break the window rather than go to the roof, where it would have been much harder to tell where he was? If he planned to die anyway, as would seem to be the case, why not go down closer? If he was using a bump-fire, that takes some practice to use well. Did this guy practice?
3333glen Sounded like he had a modified fully auto rifle, those tend to malfunction frequently. Probably had multiple modified rifles as backups in case they malfunctioned. I definitely don't think he was bump firing that accurately for that long of time. He probably didn't go to the roof because it would look pretty suspicious for a guy walking up with guns or a duffle bag up to the roof, and most hotels don't allow roof access to guests unless it's part of the penthouse or reserved for parties The only reason he stopped shooting people was the smoked emitting from the rifle he was firing, triggered the fire alarm and alerted authorities to the room he was in. When he realized they were coming into his room, he turned the gun on himself.
Something is just not right with this whole situation... a wealthy senior citizen purchases a plethora of illegal weapons (where the fuck did an old guy find these weapons, much less how did he get them to his room?), last I heard he had 19 weapons up there.
As much as I really really hate to agree with anything Hillary, if he was firing from far back into the room with a high end silencer, it would have been significantly harder to hear the shooting over the music. Those speakers are really loud.
The shooter's story is weird because a 100% lawful guy all his life, happy-go-lucky wealthy retiree gambler, does not become a terrorist at the age of 64 all of a sudden. And no untrained killer can be shooting 8 minutes straight before his heart gives up from the agony (most people can't catch their breath after they shoot 1 bullet against just 1 person). And someone who "snaps" gets one gun and shoots 2-3 at a supermarket - he does not accumulate 23 weapons plus ammo in a hotel room (that's spectacularly weird itself - nobody noticed??? - and how did he transport 23 weapons to Las Vegas - he drove there with a truck??). The person described as the 8-minute shooter 'all of a sudden' does not exist. The guy they found dead didn't do the shooting.
I'm so sorry for all the families who lost loved ones and I sincerely hope all those still in the hospital make a full recovery. I can't possibly imagine how terrifying that would have been. But I also have to say that guns in the hands of citizens are NECESSARY for freedom, period. These kinds of attacks cannot be prevented. Proper healthcare (mental) and security can certainly reduce these occurrences but they are never going to go away, its the price of freedom. That is the truth and no one wants to say it. Additionally, all this silencer nonsense is so fucking stupid. First of all its completely irrelevant. Second of all they aren't called silencers, they don't silence anything. They are called suppressors and they are called suppressors because they serve two purposes: SUPPRESSING the sound and SUPPRESSING the muzzle flash. They don't get rid of either, not even close. Third of all Hilary Clinton is total SCUM for bringing it up. Couldn't even wait 24 hours. Unbelievable
(BEN! 12:52,) The guitarist from the Band that was playing ,is totally in favor of gun control now,i mean the DEMOCRATS gun control , he changed his mind when he and his loved ones were helpless,they all had their guns at the BUS ,their guns could not save them and he realized that with a pistol,the maniac wouldn't have done as much damage as he did ,it was well over 800 bullets sent towards innocent helpless people SAD DAY
Ben, you're a logic guy, you can't say "there's no real evidence" about something that hasn't been tried. I can't give you data, about something that hasn't been measured.. so that's an invalid point, i could say, hey let's try it out for 10 years, and see how much of this decreased, if at all.. but of course, you won't agree to that, because it's really about your personal freedom to own arms. To that i say, your freedom to prepare for cases in which a hand gun isn't enough, isn't in balance with the freedom of 59 concert goers to enjoy the music without it instantly transformed into a civilian made killbox. but the main point i want to make is : There is no evidence, what so ever, no logical roadmap, even in theory, that in the case of usurp government, someone owning an ar-15 can make any sort of a difference. I would go as far as saying, you aren't really allowed to say that, nor assume it. because, what is that based on ? can you cite one instant in history, where a civilian being armed managed to stop such a thing ?
I think the facts are pretty simple. A guy went crazy and decided to use a ridiculous weapon that nobody should have for any reason except "I like these guns" to kill many innocent people. I'm Australian and every time this happens in your country I feel horrible for you, and I am reminded that I live in a safe country where it is virtually impossible to get weapons like this. Gun control works and most Australian agree with me!
A good place to start is for the people of America to TAKE TWO KNEES. We use our freedom to live self-centered lives (except when there is a massive crisis), and then we wonder why all these things are happening to our land. The country needs a genuine wave of repentance. May God send it to our hearts. Without his mercy and grace, we are doomed as any other empire from the past.
I cannot stand Bernie Sanders. Literally cannot stand that hypocrite's voice. Thankfully his clip was short. He infuriates me. On another note - there is an audio going around the internet of a Puerto Rican police officer who said that the mayor is intentionally holding back supplies for votes. It's very interesting. #waitingforJesus #Benforpresident
One of the rifles did indeed have a slide stock for bump firing, which is not surprising since many who tried to identify what weapon he used where confused by the change in rate of fire while shooting. That being said, dude had a lot of money and could afford pre-ban fully automatic weapons. So even an outright ban on slide stocks and echo triggers wouldn't have even stopped him from legally getting such weapons.
Why is it about 80 plus motor vehicle deaths occur everyday in the U.S. , but no one sites vehicles as the problem? Every time someone kills with a gun it seems to be about the gun not the shooter.
He owned over 20 guns. Why are people allowed to own an arsenal? Semi Automatic? 3 bullets one second that's 180 bullets in a min. you want to own a gun own a pistol with no more than 8 bullets.
Is it legal to own a fully automatic weapon in the US? Why or why not? Answer Request▾ Follow5 Have this question too? Request Answers: Request From Quora We will distribute this question to writers, and notify you about new answers.  D. Bain, studied at Trinidad State Junior College (2002) 109 Answers in Guns and Firearms  Jaiden Lewison, Music Producer, Gamer ,Technology 2 Answers in Guns and Firearms  Jeffrey Dees, 25C Radio-Operator at U.S. Army Reserve (2015-present) 36 Answers in Guns and Firearms View More or Search 9 ANSWERS  Brent Grace, Project Manager/Management Consultant at State (2011-present) Answered Jan 17 2016 The short answer: yes. Under the National Firearms Act of 1934 full auto firearms are required to be registered with the ATF. In order to register, you must have a tax stamp. To obtain the tax stamp, you must pay the ATF $200. The ATF will ask for some additional paperwork including fingerprints and a photograph - basically everything they need to do a background check. In conclusion: you can own a full auto if you pay the ATF $200. They will send you a "tax stamp" to let you know it is legal for you to possess the firearm in question. The main issue with full autos is that the registry was closed in 1986; meaning no fully automatic firearms made after 1986 can be registered. So to obtain a full auto today, you have to find a full auto made before 1986 and convince the current owner to sell it to you. The limited supply means you will pay a pretty penny for a full auto firearm today. The other way to obtain a full auto, legally, is to obtain a "post-'86 dealer sample". The way you can that is to be an FFL and have a law enforcement organization request that you obtain a sample - maybe an MP5 - so that the law enforcement organization can evaluate the weapon(s) for possible use. After you obtain this "dealer sample" you're allowed to keep at as long as you remain a going concern (e.g. stay in business). 15.8k Views · 6 Upvotes Upvote6 Downvote Share Comment... RecommendedAll  Jimpeel Answered 13h ago Yes. It is legal to own a fully automatic Class 3 firearm. This is pursuant to the National Firearms Act of 1934 or NFA 34. Those who wish to own a Class 3 weapon must undergo an extensive background check by not only the Department of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms but also their local sheriff's department. It's far more extensive than the background check given for buying a rifle or pistol. A $200 tax must also be paid for every Class 3 item that is registered. Suppressors, short-barreled rifles and shotguns, and destructive devices are also included as Class 3 items. An interesting fact about Class 3 weapons is that no lawfully owned Class 3 weapon has been used to commit a crime since 1934. The exceptions to that have been police officers who have used their duty weapons in a crime. You can look that up. It's the truth. If the shooter in Las Vegas lawfully owned the machine guns, or submachine guns, that he used it will be the first time since 1934 that lawfully owned Class 3 firearms have been used in a crime. Las Vegas is host to the largest machine gun shoot in America every year. People bring their lawfully owned Class 3 firearms and everyone has a fun time legally and safely. The public is invited. You can go and shoot a machine gun, submachine gun, short barreled rifle or shotgun, or suppressed weapon. 6.5k Views · 29 Upvotes · Answer requested byMario Vera Suggestions Pending Upvote29 Downvote Share Comment... RecommendedAll  Mike Shurkin, Shooter and safety instructor, occasional range officer. Answered Jan 10, 2016 It is legal, but there are limitations on legal ownership of full auto guns that make it difficult and very expensive. There is a $200 tax on purchase, a months-long wait to get paperwork processed, and the cheapest and lowest quality full auto gun starts at about $5000. A fully-automatic M16 rifle can cost around $40,000. 9k Views · 3 Upvotes Upvote3 Downvote Share Comment... RecommendedAll  Ben Chin Answered Oct 26, 2016 It is legal to own an automatic weapon provided there is one for sale to a civilian or the weapon was grandfather as a civilian use one before President Reagan’s signing into law back in the 80’s. One you are clear of and have satisfied both Federal and local State and or City permits and pay for a tax stamp, you can assume possession of the weapon or its sear (the mechanical device that allows full or partial automatic fire). The supply of such civilian weapons is limited hence the prices are ever increasing. A civilian cannot purchase ex military or LEO agencies automatic weapon either. Nor can one alter the sear of a non automatic weapon to that of a full automatic weapon under penalty of felony count. 6.9k Views · 2 Upvotes Upvote2 Downvote Share Comment... RecommendedAll  Hunter Montgomery, Firearms owner/enthusiast for entire life. Answered Oct 28, 2016 It is absolutely legal. You just have to pay $200 for the tax stamp, wait about 5-9 months sometimes double that for your permit to come through and then prepare to spend anywhere from $5000 to well over $150,000 depending on what you want. Oh and on top of that, you have to find a dealer that has one for sale, is willing to sell it, and has the balls to sell it. This process will take over a year if you are lucky and under ten if you aren’t lucky enough to have the money to burn. You also have to provide the ATF with your photograph, fingerprints, and a metric shit tonne (that’s the proper technical term) of paperwork just to acquire this tax stamp. Basically you will end up just short of being able to sell firearms if I’m not mistaken. It’s a super long and complicated process. OF course you could just go the short and very illegal route and acquire one through less savory means,
guns don't kill any one, it needs a human to pull the trigger , nukes don't kill any one it need a human to push the buttom , lets keep selling assault weapons ,maybe we should sell nukes too, its all at the same excuses, machine guns and nukes ,don't kill by them selfs ,
"Silencers" (correctly referred to as suppressors) greatly reduce muzzle velocity, and the effective range of any firearm. Supressors suppress some of the ear damaging sounds but they are far from "silent". Supressors also slow bullets down by a large percentage, making rounds much less effective at longer ranges. Honestly if a "silencer" was used at this range it's likely more people would have been injured rather than killed outright. It's apparent many people don't actually know the federal gun laws at all! which is a shame because (IMO) they are actually quite responsible when in reflection to the second amendment. If anything they balance a little more toward infringement of the 2nd amendment however, "some" people agree with "some" of the Fed laws already in place when it comes to fully automatic weapons. I'm NOT going to spell them out here BUT ALL OF YOU SHOULD EDUCATE YOURSELVES! Including the definitions, so you know what your talking about before commenting on (ANY) issue really! Unfortunately ONLY responsible law abiding citizens follow laws, apply for permits, pass background checks, and pay fees! Criminals DO NOT and they NEVER will. Someone hell bent on doing evil often succeeds in MANY situations with or with out a firearm and honestly armed citizens save themselves and other people in a lot of cases. Ask a police officer! From robbery to murder most police WANT law abiding citizens to be armed! YOU are your first and sometimes your only line of defense if someone decided to do evil upon you. Once you truly understand what that means, you'll see why it truly doesn't matter if law abiding citizens have full auto weapons or not! FEAR is a product of EVIL. Education, moral values, precaution, and preparedness should always trump fear! Freedom isn't free, it comes at the greatest of costs and it's well worth the price! If you think giving up your right to bare arms is a good idea, you obviously know NOTHING about world history or the evil that seeks to take your freedom from you.
Dawkins "every country has it's psychopaths, America has its guns" Ben "this happens everywhere in England.... To suggest this stuff only happens in america is just not true. "Pushes religion has the morale high ground"" Dawkins literally said EVERY COUNTRY HAS ITS PSYCHOPATHS literally putting words in his mouth. I like you ben but in this episode you were very emotional and this made you slip up a lot.
In Japan, where gun ownership is restricted to shot guns and air rifles, there was just six gun deaths in 2014 as compared to 33, 599 in the USA. If Japan had the same size population as America this figure would still only be 18. In America you are now twice as likely to be killed by a gun than to die in a car accident. And yes the USA figures do include suicides and accidents, but they also include the 900+ people shot dead by your police, and the 110 police shot dead by criminals. And since you have bought up the subject of atheism, 31% of Japanese are now atheists. A figure which increases every year. If you go where the evidence leads you (the scientific method) you can come to only one conclusion - Japan is a much safer country to live in than America. And by a long way. I also have to tell you that in 2017 godless Japan is a far more moral country to live in than America.
Full-auto weapons can be purchased in the United States, but require what is called an ATF Tax Stamp; meaning you have to register. AK47's are legal, and are fully auto. However, reports as of now on this shooter are that he was using a modified AR 15 (meaning the gun was converted from semi-auto to fully-auto at home) which IS illegal. And tampering or modification of a semi auto to fully auto is illegal because it has not gone through the ATF. No legislation you can think of can stop that.
Hey Ben YOU are not familiar with firearm laws. NEW manufacture of automatic weapons was ended in 1986. You can buy automatic weapons today .... as lonng as you can pass an ATF background check and can afford the market price, which is steep. Average price of an automatic M16 is about $15K
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With all due respect... How can anybody, especially someone of this level of intelligence, say that 50-60 people were murdered when there has not been one convincing photo of a real dead person???? Show me one, just one, photo of a real bullet hole in a real person. Not 50 photos of 50 victims.... SHOW ME ONE!!!!!
It is legal to own a full auto weapon if you pass the necessary background checks (which this guy would have) and wait 4-18 months for your ATF tax stamp. Once the ATF sends this back you can pick up your full auto weapon. the same thing happens when you buy a short barrel rifle, suppressor, some explosive devices, etc... It is confirmed that a couple of the weapons in the hotel room were modified with a bump fire stock. This is completely legal for someone to purchase and does not require any background checks to own.
Semi-Automatic doesn't fire in 3 round bursts; that's called "burst" on the selector. Non-Automatic means you need to load or cock the weapon before you can fire a round (bolt action and old weapons) Semi-automatic means a round fires every time you pull the trigger (almost every weapon sold today except shotguns) Burst Mode means the weapon fires 3 rounds every time you pull the trigger (Only ever saw this on a military weapon. it is illegal without a special permit) Automatic means the weapon fires until you release the trigger (illegal for anyone without a class 3 license)
Not to necessarily correct Ben, but to at least make his comments a little more clear. They are called SUPPRESSORS, not Silencers. The ONLY time that a bullet is truly "silenced" or at least make the bullet so quiet that the sound of the firing pin hitting the back of the bullet is louder than the bullet going off is when a "sub-sonic bullet" is used. However those bullets are super expensive in comparison to regular bullets, when using a regular bullet it still makes quite a loud noise; just not loud enough to damage the ear drums. As a matter of fact, in Britain they are required to use suppressors when hunting with rifles. And that is the only gun allowed (within lots of background checks and money) because they don't want others to freak out when they hear hunters fire their rifles.
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Came to your news as soon I saw the news - from Australia
same for both!
acasia lee what do you think of Jim Jeffery's opinion on gun control? I know it's ignorant of me to ask if you even know about it, just because you're from the country. I'm just curious.
Sydney checking in
what am I, chopped liver? haha
Adelaide boy here
Have we tried making murder illegal?
I think so. I think it's called 1st and 2nd degree murder
M H the per capita murder and violent crime rate (including breaking and entering) is all that matters. Iceland is always going to have a lower murder rate than the US even if Iceland legalized murder. This is due to the population difference. Per capita is the most important.
The Romans had it right the first time: commit a serious crime, and you get nailed to a long wood board, mounted through the hands and feet and let to bleed slowly.
Scared mostly everyone but the most evil well into order back then.
:-) The "war industry" lobby would never let it happen.
mariokarter13 No no no, let's make murder LEGAL and instead guns ILLEGAL which will raise demand for the black market and fuel a civil war...
Semi Auto fires one round per pull of the trigger not 3. Sad this was stated by Ben Shapiro.
Ben's gun knowledge is #fakenews
Ben, you're so smart so when you make an error that is fairly easily checked, I'm sad. Full auto firearms are NOT illegal, just heavily regulated (see: NFA of 1934). The Hughes amendment prohibited non-LE/Mil people from purchasing _newly manufactured_ (after May 19, 1986) machine guns. People can buy and own firearms that were registered before that date, if they have the cash and can pass the ATF check.
As noted below, a 3-round burst would be a feature in a select-fire weapon. Semi-auto weapons just reload after each trigger pull.
There are so devices that allow a semi-auto to fire like a full auto (e.g., Bumpfire stock). Under these circumstances, the assailant could have used regular semi-autos with possibly similar results, due to the defenselessness of the victims and the distance from the attacker.
As I noted in another video, "sawed-off" (or short barrel) shotguns are also covered under the NFA and require a ATF check.
Doctor Quackenbush thanks a lot
Illegal for YOU to purchase/posses. I don't think you understand how difficult it is to get a permit for a full auto weapon.
but you do know that a semi auto can fire a hundred rounds per minute?
What about the 2 minutes he spends in this video talking about how heavily regulated automatic weapons are and that they are only illegal for the people who have jumped through the numerous hoops incurred?
Doctor Quackenbush anything is easily checked, everyone makes mistakes, no need to get so emotional
I find it pretty disgusting that people are trying to politicize this tragedy just a day after. Have a fucking heart. The only thing we should be concerned about right now is helping the victims, and trying to understand what exactly happened.
goodgirl140 It disgusts me that these heartless "people" (Can we even call them that?) try to use this massacre as an opportunity to push their agendas. How senseless can one be?
it kind of evident what happened
goodgirl140
Agreed.
it is very sad and disgusting....it wasnt even a day...just hours!
I find your virtue signaling pretty disgusting. It's important to know where (politically) this is coming from and if you don't like it then you can stfu and go stick your head back in the sand.
No, Ben....
With semi-automatic weapons, you don't hear "bursts" of 3 shots. They only fire one single shot for each time you pull the trigger.
These bursts only happen with AUTOMATIC weapons, that have a selector for SEMI / AUTO / BURST / SAFE.
The BURST and AUTO are not present on civilian issues. Only FIRE / SAFE options.
It's over now. Had to do some community service.
But, since I graduated from law school, I've always kept my eyes opened, and there was a presidential pardon that our corrupt female president (we kicked her out last year) gave to benefit some criminals from her political party that were convicted of corruption.
Since the pardon was for all who got less than 4,5 years, and had already done over 1/4 of whatever the penalty was, I called my lawyer and we succeeded in obtaining the pardon.
So, I didn't do much, anyway, and didn't pay the fine either. And the asshole got crushed by a truck!! Karma is a bitch!! LOL
BUMP FIRE STOCK, TURN UR AR N2 FULL AUTO USING RECOIL OF GUN
Not full auto. Images on daily caller show a bump stock.
M240 bravo's don't stutter like the bump stock was doing. The fire rate was not consistent. I agree with drum or large magazines though. Watch some bump stock videos.
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Half of the "comments" coming out of the left at the moment are something along the lines of "they deserved it". I would say unbelievable... but I know the definition of that word.
Bullshit. Shapiro mentioned that it's disgusting to use an tragedy to push a political position. That applies to you.
Life is politics.
"They deserved it" because they're conservative. Conservatives usually listen to country music.
Claudius Atlas
Shit talking key board warrior then goes on to politicize the shit out of this incident... "fuck you and fuck your guns" right boy?... Good one slugger.
I'm not an American and I don't live in America so I don't really have a dog in this fight when it comes to gun laws in the US.
On the one hand it seems like common sense to me for guns not to be freely available to every Tom, Dick & Harry to just walk in to a store and buy one. But that is because i live in a nation (The UK) where hardly anyone has guns. Even most of the police don't have guns here!
On the other hand, I read that the USA has more guns than people. So again my common sense reaction would be that if you outlawed guns tomorrow then the only people who would be disarmed would be people who do not want to break the law i.e. the kind of people who pose no threat to anyone in the first place.
Murderers, rapists, bank robbers, gangsters etc.... Do not care about the law. Murder, rape, theft etc... are ALREADY illegal yet criminals still do that stuff, so why would anyone expect them to obey gun laws when they don't obey any other law?
It's too late to ban guns in America (wether you agree with guns or not) and the best way to minimise overall crime is to make sure as many good guys have guns and as few bad guys have them as possible. Banning guns would have the exact opposite effect of that and leave the good guys unarmed and at the mercy of the bad guys.
You might not be an American but you get it .
exactly.
Semi automatic fires one shot per trigger pull, not a "burst". A burst would fall under the classification of a fully automatic firearm. See previous comment.
Jeremy White doesn’t matter, no automatic weapons should be legal. Completely unnecessary and deadly
Correct; burst fire is only on illegal fully automatic, not legal semi. Might have been echo, but I thought I heard more than one auto ...?
+Colin O'Meara
People like you fail to think about the future.
The Germans were the most popular example of how a government can turn on its people. Automatic weapons are completely necessary.
The point of my statement was to correct 6:30 into the video the difference between a fully automatic firearm and a semi automatic firearm.
ThatBugBehindYou disagree. You got to be kidding me! How often does the government turn on a country and require you to need an automatic weapon?? You’re talking about a situation 80 years ago!! The risk of innocent people being killed by automatic guns (which as you know, are deadly weapons designed to kill at a rapid rate with high efficiency) far outweighs the risk of the government turning on you and having you needing such a weapon. Next thing you know you’re going to say in case of a zombie apocalypse. Unbelievable how adamant some people are about having these weapons. A laughing stock to the rest of the world at the pure stupidity. It really is baffling
You should be the President for the entire human race. Less emotions more facts & always offering solutions. Too much class mate. God bless you! a fan from the Fiji Islands
limiting man's freedom is not the solution to prevent man from doing unworthy things with his freedom. That is the juridic basis of our gun rights.
Well said
Ben, a semiautomatic means one squeeze of the trigger fires one round. Semiautomatic does not imply bursts.
I think Ben would agree with me that we should put our faith in God, not men. Even if the man in question is Ben Shapiro. He's not infallible and he has acknowledged mistakes in the past. That said, I think he simply misspoke. Lord knows I couldn't speak for an hour on the air every weekday without misspeaking. Hell, I feel good if I can make it 10 minutes.
32:31 is that a supply truck driving behind San juan's mayor? She needs to blame herself!
Attacks like this are why I support the death penalty. I know the attacker is dead, but people who carry out or even help cause events like this do not deserve to live.
Agreed with the distrust of court systems. Sometimes people are found to he innocent all along AFTER being executed. Whoops! Can we put them back together again?
Ben, could you make more videos on schooling people about morals as a way to prevent things like this. Also I would like to hear more about this book and what it talks about. Thank you may Christ guide you, although I know you don't believe in him.
For all the people claiming Ben is politicizing this and standing in their graves I strongly disagree. It's one thing to discuss current affairs, it's another to use a particular incident for your political agenda. Ben clearly stated at the beginning of the show that it's important to wait for the facts to come out before making any cases. He talks only facts. Sure he talks about gun control too, but not this particular situation. He is being patient and reasonable of this situation while the rest of the media goes batshit. Those are my two cents.
No, it's quite clear that he's already formed the conclusion in his mind that this is a mental health issue and that he's just waiting for information that vaguely relates to a mental health issue so that he can turn the issue into one that can be used to fuel his anti-mental disability bias.
Ben has long been quick to blame mental disorders for mass shootings. He outright stated this on Piers Morgan's show and on Dave Rubin's as well. Ben cites no scientific evidence to back up his claim that mental disabilities are the cause for mass shootings and ignores the evidence that shows that mental disabilities have virtually no relation to violence, and that many other characteristics are better predictors of violence such as being male, being a substance abuser, and having a previous history of violence. Ben even just randomly brought up mental illness out of nowhere in the video, which further shows that he's looking to preemptively blame this on some unclear problem in the mental health system, and blame psychiatrists for not being able to predict who's going to go on a mass murdering rampage even though they aren't trained nor expected in any way, shape or form to possess an ability to know who is going to act out violently.
As far as I can tell, the shooter's father was an abusive psychopath who was locked in prison when he was just a few years old. He escaped prison again when he was fifteen and then was locked up again when the shooter was in his mid-twenties. This seems like a case where the shooter was abused by his father when he was young, had a hard life, then decided to go out with a bang and kill people.
Adam Flaherty where are you people hearing all these rumours. Nothing has been on TV.
Elaine Teut stop watching TV. All TV news is fake news. You need to get your news from MULTIPLE online sources so you can check sources and compare narratives
Adam Flaherty conjecture?
Adam Flaherty my guess (this is purely from my 'imagination') is that the shooter lived a long boring normal life and up to his sixties he relised that he was going to die without making an impact and so decided to "go out with a bang". It explains why his brother saw no signs because he said the last time he saw him was 6 months ago and so the shooters plan must've been recently and also why he went through the effort of amassing 23 guns, modifying them, sending his girlfriend on a vacation just to steal her hotel key card, and killed himself just as the police arrived because he knew he made his mark on the world.
NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving - which is a privilege, not a right - then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege. - DJT
Dawkins is also showing himself to be a highly educated but no commonsense person.
I'm pretty sure it's common sense that things that don't live will die.
RB Fx Trading Coach At least he's common sense on Islam mistreating people. Honestly think he just needs a good discussion with the right person and some scary data sheets to look at.... I don't like to think he's knowingly saying wrong things, he's honestly just surrounded by different culture. Needs to visit US and speak to intellectual constitutionalists and be faced with "If made illegal only criminals have the most dangerous equipment, up to the point that the government can easily take notice such as with a tank Or aeroplane... Then again the pentagon did lose all those millions back before 9/11...." Honestly I think that because of his position as a teacher of evolution he is only really exposed to a certain community, and misses out on the philosophical and logical consequences in legal matters... But maybe that's just me....
Radi Bear if something doesn't live it by definition can't die...since you need to be alive for that.
Enemies of America attack liberty and freedom under the guise of tragedy
Mancheeze there are plenty of regulations at gun shows saying that you "don't need anything to get a gun" at a gun show is incredibly dishonest.
So awful! I wish that man was still alive, honestly, so we could shut him behind bars for the rest of his life. Hell before the real hell.
@bob thornton
a good first reaction, but it has to be understood who/what/why in the first place, just in case there are more people who need needles
His papa was a Bank robber. Like father like son.
too costly, the chair of wouldnt b bad
I think it's highly possible it was someone else that killed him and left the scene...Why would this man break two different windows? Why would a 64 year old with a great life who had planes and multiple house's with no known criminal back ground do this? Why would he just randomly snap like this? Of the gun stores that he "shopped" at the staff interviewed said he had boughten handguns and a shotgun, clearly not the weapon used. He had a girlfriend and had been married before he had called his family in FL to make sure their ok after IRMA? doesn't sound like someone who'd commit such a heinous act. I think we all need much more info to jump to conclusion because it really doesn't seem like he'd fit the profile for something like this. Also as a side note why would he bring 10 plus weapons into the hotel room? I mean you'd only need one rifle to "get the job done". Anyways we need to save judgment for second and find out everything possible about this case then we can judge.
Also we need surveillance tapes from the hotel released.
GracetheGreat ridiculous suggestion. Jail is hell? Haha no no, not for a man like that. For him, a man who wants to die anyways, should be dropped off in the hostile middle east wrapped in American flags. Let THEM skin him alive by people as crazy as he is. This is why the death penalty is needed...
feel so bad for those victims. i do pray for you. God bless you guys
I think it's highly possible it was someone else (or more) that killed him and left the scene...Why would this man break two different windows? Why would a 64 year old with a great life who had planes and multiple house's with no known criminal back ground do this? Why would he just randomly snap like this? Of the gun stores that he "shopped" at the staff interviewed said he had boughten handguns and a shotgun, clearly not the weapon used. He had a girlfriend and had been married before he had called his family in FL to make sure their ok after IRMA? doesn't sound like someone who'd commit such a heinous act. I think we all need much more info to jump to conclusion because it really doesn't seem like he'd fit the profile for something like this. Also as a side note why would he bring 10 plus weapons into the hotel room? I mean you'd only need one rifle to "get the job done". Anyways we need to save judgment for second and find out everything possible about this case then we can judge.
Also we need surveillance tapes from the hotel released.
cameron smith mk ultra
i don't think using this event to talk about politics is appropriate
Witnesses saying multiple shooters. And a woman saying "your all going to die tonight" 45 minutes before the shooting. She was kicked out by security.
Semi auto isn't 3round burst they classify 3 round burst as full auto semi auto one bang per trigger pull
Chris Sharpe Isnt 3-round only available on full auto weapons, in semi-auto mode.
i hate richard dawkins i read some of his books he's INSANELY biased to the point where is is stupidly close-minded. he makes fallacious arguments and ALWAYS ignores the main point. he skittles around the main point to try to force some agenda and he's really condescending. not a fan of him.
How can I contact Ben, I was at the concert next to the stage, I was actually hit with debris and shrapnel, I'd like to offer my perspective on it.
max howard okay thank you
We want to know your story too!
Kelly Wolfe check my profile, I posted a video about it
Love you man blessing upon your family I can't stop watching your lectures or anything bc it's true and real I don't like the thug stuff but it's ok I know that's not you
I do think your our next president seriously your qualified bro⚡🔑💟
I am not for nor against guns. Im much more against the people behind them that use it to murder innocent lives. Still, I would like to hear exactly HOW banning guns would be useful, as I do lean a little more on honoring the amendment that gives us the right to bear arms. If someone could explain their side well, please feel free.
There is no sound argument from gun-controllers about this. It's basically just "pass more laws because it will make government bigger and the citizens smaller." It will make a lot of idiots _feel_ better too of course. But no, it won't actually prevent bizarre mass-murder scenarios like this from happening.
A major breakthrough for me was when I was a university student and at the same time I was learning about guns and developing them as a hobby:
I realized that there were tons of laws and rules and funding and that there would be severe consequences; but that there was nothing that could actually stop a person from buying a couple guns (legally OR illegally), putting them in a backpack, walking into a populated area on campus, and murdering a bunch of people.
I know it's kind of a comedy skit but honestly checkout John olivers gun laws about Australia. As an Australian I've never been in fear of being shot, only when I served in the military and was deployed did I gain an actual understanding of why they should be banned. A gun literally let's you point click and end another person's life...that's a pretty insane thing when you break it down.
+Curtis Russell
The same concept of "point and click" applies to various melee weapons like knives, clubs, etc. Not to mention explosives, trucks, the list goes on. We only have ~11,000 homicides in the US yearly with firearms, including JUSTIFIABLE self-defense by citizens and police officers, not to mention mere accidents.
Consider the fact that over 300 million people live in The United States, and that we are a free and open society with importance placed on the freedom of individuals.
Does it surprise you then to find the extremely rare case now and then where some psychopath abuses those liberties and tries/succeeds to murder strangers for no real reason? And do you realize how much robbery/rape/murder is PREVENTED yearly by weapons in the hands of common citizens (in the US)? It's in the tens of thousands, easily.
I SNATCHED JHOPESCHILL
The argument isn't banning guns it's stronger gun regulation and vetting process.
MyThoughtsBelow Yes put more restrictions on a law abiding citizen while criminals simply bypass it. That'll fix it.
Ben says a semi auto is a 3 round burst and that it is legal. A 3 round burst is considered an automatic weapon and most (if not all) weapons that fire a 3 round burst can also be automatic. A 3 round burst weapon is banned in the National Firearms Act of 86'. It's no big deal just an FYI with all the fake news about guns going around.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I though Jews didn't believe in Hell.
Flyingferrets5 you're wrong
They believe everything that Christians believe, only that Jesus isn't God
Orthodox Jews do not believe in hell.
Highly christianized, super moderate American jews pretend to be very orthodox, but they tend to adopt Christian teachings that do not exist in the Torah, "Hell" being one of them
Well I mean we believe in a type of hell kinda, called gehinom where one is purified (through punishment) after death until they are able to go to heaven
Wouldn't that be considered Messianic instead?
It was a full-auto missle tank with a quantum silencer, for whisper-quiet MOAB effects.
_Correct, it doesn't take much to convert a _*_Semi-auto_*_ to _*_full auto_*_ if you know what your're doing with readily available parts._
AnonymousSources actually its extremely hard to do properly. The parts are not readily available at all, fulk auto sears are very hard to get and are very very heavily regulated. If you try to modify your own semi automatic weapon to be full auto its usually impossible, or it will fire until empty uncontrollably.
With the right machining tools and know how you can make an AR lower and full auto parts for it from scratch.
With the right tools and materials you could make a f117 as well. The point Vulphulx was making is that it is more difficult to convert semi to fully auto. To convert an Ar15 you would need a complete new m16 receiver. Saying that it could be done with a skilled gunsmith equipped with a fully stocked workshop doesn't refute that.
Scientific Discovery Channel notice how that is illegal, the answer to this problem isnt gun control its criminal control.
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The camera man was not moving even during the shots he just kept filming…
What a time to be alive
Why? 15 minutes of fame. Quite simple.
Rarely known fact: A silencer does does not actually silence conventional ammo. A big part of the sound of a gun is the shock wave of the bullet travelling above the speed of sound thru the air. If you want to shoot a gun on the range with a silencer and no hearing protection, you will need to make sure you purchase ammo where the bullet travels below the speed of sound.
Ben's reputation is built mostly on his je ne sais quoi. Simply put, it is his pious tone and immovable posture that creates the illusion of intellectual infallibility. But alas, he is just like us. Emotional and irrational at times, obstinate and beholding of erroneous views. Yeah, he's not always right... (correct). And I think he is someone who rarely concedes defeat. Anyway.
Ben is clearly driven by emotional hysteria in this video, and makes claims that if an opponent made, would be torn to shreds. Like the religious barb, stupid. Probably regrets it I'd reckon. Or the fully-automatic weapon rubbish in the opening few minutes. His incorrect claim was made in haste before the knowledge of bumpstocks was realized. So, he's gone off half cocked in his attacks on the left. This is not his finest hour. Stick to taxation and trickle down economics, that's my advice.
I smell a possible Manchurian Candidate.
boeingdriver29. What is a Manchurian Candidate?
Clive Goodman Someone who has been brainwashed by the government in the past and can be activated at some point to commit crimes.
Kali Southpaw your part of the problem.
few points to be made...
A)this video should be ad-free. I think its very insensitive to talk about a subject as grave as this. 13 minutes in and i'm being sold a bouquet of cinnamon cider roses.
B) Perhaps even more insensitive is people, like ben, pushing their political agenda so shortly after a tragedy has occurred. Obviously this is a pressing issue, but I personally believe that this time should be dedicated to grieving for the families who lost loved ones and encouraging support for those who were wounded.
C)fully auto weapons are not illegal. They are very regulated as you mentioned, but they can still be legally acquired if you really want...just requires passing ATF check and a fair sum of money
We are all inherently evil. If God hadn’t placed limitations into humanity, we’d tear each other apart instantly. Sin is the problem, Jesus is the solution! Prayers for all the victims families.
Bay Area Toneworks I agree. Mankind needs a new heart and only Christ can do that.
God doesn't exist and you should speak for yourself. If you are "evil" then you must be doing evil things
Bay Area Toneworks youre a nut
Darran Kern I can agree with the second part but how can you be 100% sure God isn't real?
kern we are speeking for oursleves we aint speaking for you because that is impossible go comment somewhere else u stupid 12 year old
It was a bump stock. They have made a open ended bill to ban any rate increasing device. Keep your ears to the ground people. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile.
The importance of the silencer would be to hide the muzzle flash, you can see this flash in the video. so in this case it would have made a difference... But I agree Hillary's tweet is in poor taste
BFfanMAN the silencer would have eventually burned off, but im not a gun expert so idk.
Flash hiders are legal, cost $30, and can be put on a gun in 5min. You don’t need a silencer to hide flash.
If you used a silencer with full auto like that, you would start seeing fireballs spitting out the end of the silencer. It would not do much.
Also, the sound you hear in the vids are from the bullets passing the sound barrier. Since the shooter is far away, you don’t hear the muzzle. A silencer would not stop the bullets from breaking the sound barrier, and so it would have sounded the same. The asshole who shot up everyone would have just had less hearing damage... until he killed himself of course
Yeah so maybe you can't see the muzzle flash in the video, but people on the ground said they saw it.. I only commented because there is a tiny bit of truth in what Hillary said. Not that I agree with her timing or agenda, but Ben didn't really show both sides of the argument.
I read in one of the news articles that he was found because the smoke from the shooting set of the fire alarm.
Not how silencers work at all... your talking going from jet engine to jack hammer in decibels. A gun with a silencer(in these calibers) is still very loud.
Quick side note. There is no such thing as a "silencer." There are only SUPPRESSORS which try to lessen part of the sounds created. The whole James Bond "silenced" gun thing just isn't true. This shooter in Las Vegas is a terrible person. Thanks to everyone helping in any way.
who needs over 40 guns?
yutubecoach everyone.
agreed, 59 dead over 500 hurt, by one man, time to seriously look at what weapons are allowed to be purchased. I don't have a problem with someone having a pistol at there home to protect family, but to purchase these machine guns, is crazy.
Who needs more than one car? But just because an asshole kills someone with a car, should the reasonable majority not be allowed to own more than one?
i get your point, i agree more than one, unlimited is kind of scary to build up an arsenal to fight a major war. No need to have machine guns too.
Jocko Adams but a cars sole purpose isn't to kill something, a gun serves no other purpose then to fire a piece of metal at near 1000m a second and end the life of whatever it's aiming at. I agree that the vast majority of people who own guns will never do something like this but the problem is that it only takes one person to commit an act like last Vegas.
I would like to know who sold all those guns to the Las Vegas monster.
Was it a legal transaction? Was everything done by the book?
If the answer is yes, then the rational byproduct would be to ban all outdoor concert areas surrounded by tall buildings.
If the answer is no, I would like to see those guys facing the music and getting themselves some nasty jail terms.
That's called responsibility.
You own your gun and you also bear the responsibility for their use.
And I'm also for traceability , you know, being able to trace the origins of all firearms.
Anyone that thinks this is a bump stock has never fired an automatic weapon, or a semi-auto weapon with a bump stock.
whats the difference?
I hadn't heard of a bump stock until today.
th-cam.com/video/_U6tORrODJE/w-d-xo.html Here is an example of it. A bump stock (or slide stock) is a buttstock with a recoil spring in the rear pad, so that when the gun fires, it pushes back towards you, then recoils it forwards again. The way you use it is to not actually pull the trigger with your finger- you keep your trigger finger stiff over the trigger, then push forward on the gun, and the recoiling allows it to be repeatedly pushed into your trigger finger.
Two things to take from this demonstration is that: 1. The fire rate is erratic, and inconsistent. 2. This shooter has practiced the tactic of bump shooting with this tool. The fire rate in the Vegas shooting was completely consistent throughout the volley of fire, only stopping to feed the gun with more ammunition (which could have only been a belt-fed, not magazine-fed). A lot of ranges don't allow you to use bump stocks, even though they are legal, and it requires a lot of range time to understand the way to accurately, and correctly fire with a bump stock. Bump stock shooting also changes when firing at different angles (firing upwards / downwards), and since he was dozens of stories up, he had to have been firing at near a 45 degree angle downwards, which would make it harder to keep the fire rate consistent.
I am looking more into the incident now, and there are early reports (which are usually very hard to trust), that bump stocks, AND fully automatic weapons were found in his room, so as I concede that I can always be wrong.
Blueshirt oh shit. So did they find any shell casing in the room? Anyone know
bob thornton yeah. I've been searching up and down the internet for pictures and have not found any with traces of blood or anything of that matter but I'm still waiting to conclude if this is "real or whatever"
Ben, I agree with your views but you (and dailywire) should have stepped outside the normal video format, by removing sponsors from this video and demonetized it. Or else it just looks disingenuous to profit off tragedy. Phill Defranco's coverage of this story had absolutely no sponsorship and stated he is demonetizing it himself.
Pretty disgusted that you plugged your sponsor after that intro.
Talking Head Lol get over it. Ben still needs to make money so he can bring us this important content!
what? he always plugs a sponsor right after intro
I have no problem with it. He has to do it because of his contract with the sponsor. Plus he has to make money to bring us the content we watch because videos and camera and space cost.
Talking Head does it bother you when a major network cuts to commercial after delivering terrible news?
Talking Head his sponsers are what makes his show possible, eitherwise he wouldnt be able to talk about this stuff. i see the logic behind it so its fine to me
you always sounded smart when I watched you but you have not done your research this time Ben Shapiro ! semi-auto means every time you pull the trigger one bullet comes out! a burst fire is what the military uses firing a 3 round burst on the standard M16 A2 not the M4 which is capable of Full Auto and all of the above . fully auto is when you hold the trigger down and it continuously fires until the magazine is empty.
Respect blood...don't inject someone else's soul into your body. Only the soul of Jesus saves us from infinite death, and soon he will deliver us eternal life as was promised by God. Amen
Millenial Sunshine so the soul is within the blood?
You're saying that my blood cells contain my soul?
What's your reasoning for saying that? Can I donate bone marrow? Can I donate a kidney to a loved one?
Brendan Galvin I would like to let you know if she does truly believe this (about the soul) then she never has picked up a Bible. Or if she did it’s she needs to read it closer and in context because I can tell you it’s not correct.. by far.
fire123546789 yeah, theres nothing in the bible prohibiting this.
Jesus, coming soon.
Since 100 AD
If there's a will, there's a way. Gun control won't stop psychos from carrying out a cowardly attack like this.
If you take all the gun deaths (excluding democide ) in U.S.history and add them all up,that number would pale in comparison to the number of deaths that would occur if we banned all guns.
Much like the drug war the "solution" would be far worse.
Semi auto doesn't fire bursts of rounds, they fire one round per trigger pull. A 3 round burst is full auto as far as the laws are concerned.
Dawkins.. this isn't truly relevant since it is just In response to an off the cuff remark, but I despise that guy, and I am an agnostic. He has given up on learning, saying you know something you can't know and dismissing these great religious works that have helped me endlessly as a writer and thinker is so ignorant. He is a believer and by choosing to believe in something he can't know he has abandoned his determination to find the truth; a lifetime of pursuit is not a waste of time.
Ben could you provide us with the reference of that book on evil? I'm not native English speaker & cant catch the author's name - and I could use it for a dissertation myself. Thank you!
Ben, semi auto is when you pull the trigger, one bullet comes out, and you must let go and repull the trigger to fire another. full auto is when you pull and hold the trigger and bullets continuously come out. What you're describing is burst fire and it's considered a form of full auto fire.
Ben your great,smart,intelligent and just plain a good guy but why do you wear your Skullcap all the time? Are you trying too prove a point?
Your great Ben, but you need to educate yourself a little more about guns before going on air. You got the auto vs semi-auto thing pretty much completely wrong.
Shapiro 2020. Please save us.
a little bit insensitive putting your advertising right in front of the listeners wanting to know what happened in this tragedy
TH-cam is re-writing history. Ben is close to a radio show from 50's promoting ads while his show continues.
What race tends to listen to country music?
And are the majority of that race republican or democrat,conservatives or liberals?
Re: the what "science" has and hasn't proven, there's a difference between what science says and what scientists say. They're not always the same.
3 round burst is illegal as well! That IS NOT what "semi-automatic" means.
Ben.. Three shot burst is NOT semi-auto. Semi auto is one shot per trigger pull.. Come on man..
Changing the laws won't stop a determined person from fulfilling their Fantasy
i live in Brazil, a country that has 70.000 MURDERS per year [not counting the unclear cases or the 'disappearance' cases], and having to deal with the media hotshots here saying ON AIR that 'there must be something wrong with the U.S.' makes me wanna throw up.
btw. guns are banned here
Ben - semi-auto is not burst fire. That's an optional setting for a full auto. A semi auto requires a separate trigger pull for each shot.
We can't be certain, yet, that this was the shooter. He wasn't hard to find. There was a window broken out. Is it POSSIBLE that someone else was the shooter and used this guy as a patsy? 10 rifles there, but seems that he only used 1 or 2. So why have 10? Why break the window rather than go to the roof, where it would have been much harder to tell where he was? If he planned to die anyway, as would seem to be the case, why not go down closer? If he was using a bump-fire, that takes some practice to use well. Did this guy practice?
3333glen Sounded like he had a modified fully auto rifle, those tend to malfunction frequently. Probably had multiple modified rifles as backups in case they malfunctioned. I definitely don't think he was bump firing that accurately for that long of time.
He probably didn't go to the roof because it would look pretty suspicious for a guy walking up with guns or a duffle bag up to the roof, and most hotels don't allow roof access to guests unless it's part of the penthouse or reserved for parties
The only reason he stopped shooting people was the smoked emitting from the rifle he was firing, triggered the fire alarm and alerted authorities to the room he was in. When he realized they were coming into his room, he turned the gun on himself.
semi auto is 1 trigger pull per 1 bullet. i guess you are not familiar with guns ben.
Any information on the mental health of the murderer?
Zein he was a normal guy. Check out the Wikipedia article it tells you everything
Something is just not right with this whole situation... a wealthy senior citizen purchases a plethora of illegal weapons (where the fuck did an old guy find these weapons, much less how did he get them to his room?), last I heard he had 19 weapons up there.
Curb your delusions, Richard Dawkins.
As much as I really really hate to agree with anything Hillary, if he was firing from far back into the room with a high end silencer, it would have been significantly harder to hear the shooting over the music. Those speakers are really loud.
Always the voice of reason...Thanks Ben
Any semi competent machinist can manufacture a machine gun.
I trust this dude! #RealNews Rare to find these days....
The shooter's story is weird because a 100% lawful guy all his life, happy-go-lucky wealthy retiree gambler, does not become a terrorist at the age of 64 all of a sudden. And no untrained killer can be shooting 8 minutes straight before his heart gives up from the agony (most people can't catch their breath after they shoot 1 bullet against just 1 person). And someone who "snaps" gets one gun and shoots 2-3 at a supermarket - he does not accumulate 23 weapons plus ammo in a hotel room (that's spectacularly weird itself - nobody noticed??? - and how did he transport 23 weapons to Las Vegas - he drove there with a truck??). The person described as the 8-minute shooter 'all of a sudden' does not exist. The guy they found dead didn't do the shooting.
I'm so sorry for all the families who lost loved ones and I sincerely hope all those still in the hospital make a full recovery. I can't possibly imagine how terrifying that would have been. But I also have to say that guns in the hands of citizens are NECESSARY for freedom, period. These kinds of attacks cannot be prevented. Proper healthcare (mental) and security can certainly reduce these occurrences but they are never going to go away, its the price of freedom. That is the truth and no one wants to say it.
Additionally, all this silencer nonsense is so fucking stupid. First of all its completely irrelevant. Second of all they aren't called silencers, they don't silence anything. They are called suppressors and they are called suppressors because they serve two purposes: SUPPRESSING the sound and SUPPRESSING the muzzle flash. They don't get rid of either, not even close. Third of all Hilary Clinton is total SCUM for bringing it up. Couldn't even wait 24 hours. Unbelievable
(BEN! 12:52,) The guitarist from the Band that was playing ,is totally in favor of gun control now,i mean the DEMOCRATS gun control , he changed his mind when he and his loved ones were helpless,they all had their guns at the BUS ,their guns could not save them and he realized that with a pistol,the maniac wouldn't have done as much damage as he did ,it was well over 800 bullets sent towards innocent helpless people SAD DAY
Ben, you're a logic guy, you can't say "there's no real evidence" about something that hasn't been tried.
I can't give you data, about something that hasn't been measured..
so that's an invalid point, i could say, hey let's try it out for 10 years, and see how much of this decreased, if at all..
but of course, you won't agree to that, because it's really about your personal freedom to own arms.
To that i say, your freedom to prepare for cases in which a hand gun isn't enough,
isn't in balance with the freedom of 59 concert goers to enjoy the music without it instantly transformed into a civilian made killbox.
but the main point i want to make is :
There is no evidence, what so ever, no logical roadmap, even in theory,
that in the case of usurp government, someone owning an ar-15 can make any sort of a difference.
I would go as far as saying, you aren't really allowed to say that, nor assume it.
because, what is that based on ?
can you cite one instant in history, where a civilian being armed managed to stop such a thing ?
I think the facts are pretty simple. A guy went crazy and decided to use a ridiculous weapon that nobody should have for any reason except "I like these guns" to kill many innocent people. I'm Australian and every time this happens in your country I feel horrible for you, and I am reminded that I live in a safe country where it is virtually impossible to get weapons like this. Gun control works and most Australian agree with me!
A good place to start is for the people of America to TAKE TWO KNEES. We use our freedom to live self-centered lives (except when there is a massive crisis), and then we wonder why all these things are happening to our land. The country needs a genuine wave of repentance. May God send it to our hearts. Without his mercy and grace, we are doomed as any other empire from the past.
I cannot stand Bernie Sanders. Literally cannot stand that hypocrite's voice. Thankfully his clip was short. He infuriates me.
On another note - there is an audio going around the internet of a Puerto Rican police officer who said that the mayor is intentionally holding back supplies for votes. It's very interesting.
#waitingforJesus #Benforpresident
One of the rifles did indeed have a slide stock for bump firing, which is not surprising since many who tried to identify what weapon he used where confused by the change in rate of fire while shooting. That being said, dude had a lot of money and could afford pre-ban fully automatic weapons. So even an outright ban on slide stocks and echo triggers wouldn't have even stopped him from legally getting such weapons.
Why is it about 80 plus motor vehicle deaths occur everyday in the U.S. , but no one sites vehicles as the problem? Every time someone kills with a gun it seems to be about the gun not the shooter.
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He owned over 20 guns. Why are people allowed to own an arsenal? Semi Automatic? 3 bullets one second that's 180 bullets in a min. you want to own a gun own a pistol with no more than 8 bullets.
Is it legal to own a fully automatic weapon in the US? Why or why not?
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Brent Grace, Project Manager/Management Consultant at State (2011-present)
Answered Jan 17 2016
The short answer: yes.
Under the National Firearms Act of 1934 full auto firearms are required to be registered with the ATF. In order to register, you must have a tax stamp. To obtain the tax stamp, you must pay the ATF $200. The ATF will ask for some additional paperwork including fingerprints and a photograph - basically everything they need to do a background check. In conclusion: you can own a full auto if you pay the ATF $200. They will send you a "tax stamp" to let you know it is legal for you to possess the firearm in question.
The main issue with full autos is that the registry was closed in 1986; meaning no fully automatic firearms made after 1986 can be registered. So to obtain a full auto today, you have to find a full auto made before 1986 and convince the current owner to sell it to you. The limited supply means you will pay a pretty penny for a full auto firearm today.
The other way to obtain a full auto, legally, is to obtain a "post-'86 dealer sample". The way you can that is to be an FFL and have a law enforcement organization request that you obtain a sample - maybe an MP5 - so that the law enforcement organization can evaluate the weapon(s) for possible use. After you obtain this "dealer sample" you're allowed to keep at as long as you remain a going concern (e.g. stay in business).
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Yes. It is legal to own a fully automatic Class 3 firearm. This is pursuant to the National Firearms Act of 1934 or NFA 34.
Those who wish to own a Class 3 weapon must undergo an extensive background check by not only the Department of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms but also their local sheriff's department. It's far more extensive than the background check given for buying a rifle or pistol. A $200 tax must also be paid for every Class 3 item that is registered.
Suppressors, short-barreled rifles and shotguns, and destructive devices are also included as Class 3 items.
An interesting fact about Class 3 weapons is that no lawfully owned Class 3 weapon has been used to commit a crime since 1934. The exceptions to that have been police officers who have used their duty weapons in a crime. You can look that up. It's the truth. If the shooter in Las Vegas lawfully owned the machine guns, or submachine guns, that he used it will be the first time since 1934 that lawfully owned Class 3 firearms have been used in a crime.
Las Vegas is host to the largest machine gun shoot in America every year. People bring their lawfully owned Class 3 firearms and everyone has a fun time legally and safely. The public is invited. You can go and shoot a machine gun, submachine gun, short barreled rifle or shotgun, or suppressed weapon.
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Mike Shurkin, Shooter and safety instructor, occasional range officer.
Answered Jan 10, 2016
It is legal, but there are limitations on legal ownership of full auto guns that make it difficult and very expensive.
There is a $200 tax on purchase, a months-long wait to get paperwork processed, and the cheapest and lowest quality full auto gun starts at about $5000. A fully-automatic M16 rifle can cost around $40,000.
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Ben Chin
Answered Oct 26, 2016
It is legal to own an automatic weapon provided there is one for sale to a civilian or the weapon was grandfather as a civilian use one before President Reagan’s signing into law back in the 80’s.
One you are clear of and have satisfied both Federal and local State and or City permits and pay for a tax stamp, you can assume possession of the weapon or its sear (the mechanical device that allows full or partial automatic fire).
The supply of such civilian weapons is limited hence the prices are ever increasing. A civilian cannot purchase ex military or LEO agencies automatic weapon either. Nor can one alter the sear of a non automatic weapon to that of a full automatic weapon under penalty of felony count.
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Hunter Montgomery, Firearms owner/enthusiast for entire life.
Answered Oct 28, 2016
It is absolutely legal. You just have to pay $200 for the tax stamp, wait about 5-9 months sometimes double that for your permit to come through and then prepare to spend anywhere from $5000 to well over $150,000 depending on what you want. Oh and on top of that, you have to find a dealer that has one for sale, is willing to sell it, and has the balls to sell it. This process will take over a year if you are lucky and under ten if you aren’t lucky enough to have the money to burn. You also have to provide the ATF with your photograph, fingerprints, and a metric shit tonne (that’s the proper technical term) of paperwork just to acquire this tax stamp. Basically you will end up just short of being able to sell firearms if I’m not mistaken. It’s a super long and complicated process. OF course you could just go the short and very illegal route and acquire one through less savory means,
guns don't kill any one, it needs a human to pull the trigger , nukes don't kill any one it need a human to push the buttom , lets keep selling assault weapons ,maybe we should sell nukes too, its all at the same excuses, machine guns and nukes ,don't kill by them selfs ,
"Silencers" (correctly referred to as suppressors) greatly reduce muzzle velocity, and the effective range of any firearm. Supressors suppress some of the ear damaging sounds but they are far from "silent".
Supressors also slow bullets down by a large percentage, making rounds much less effective at longer ranges. Honestly if a "silencer" was used at this range it's likely more people would have been injured rather than killed outright.
It's apparent many people don't actually know the federal gun laws at all! which is a shame because (IMO) they are actually quite responsible when in reflection to the second amendment. If anything they balance a little more toward infringement of the 2nd amendment however, "some" people agree with "some" of the Fed laws already in place when it comes to fully automatic weapons. I'm NOT going to spell them out here BUT ALL OF YOU SHOULD EDUCATE YOURSELVES! Including the definitions, so you know what your talking about before commenting on (ANY) issue really!
Unfortunately ONLY responsible law abiding citizens follow laws, apply for permits, pass background checks, and pay fees! Criminals DO NOT and they NEVER will.
Someone hell bent on doing evil often succeeds in MANY situations with or with out a firearm and honestly armed citizens save themselves and other people in a lot of cases. Ask a police officer! From robbery to murder most police WANT law abiding citizens to be armed! YOU are your first and sometimes your only line of defense if someone decided to do evil upon you. Once you truly understand what that means, you'll see why it truly doesn't matter if law abiding citizens have full auto weapons or not!
FEAR is a product of EVIL. Education, moral values, precaution, and preparedness should always trump fear! Freedom isn't free, it comes at the greatest of costs and it's well worth the price! If you think giving up your right to bare arms is a good idea, you obviously know NOTHING about world history or the evil that seeks to take your freedom from you.
Dawkins "every country has it's psychopaths, America has its guns"
Ben "this happens everywhere in England.... To suggest this stuff only happens in america is just not true. "Pushes religion has the morale high ground""
Dawkins literally said EVERY COUNTRY HAS ITS PSYCHOPATHS literally putting words in his mouth. I like you ben but in this episode you were very emotional and this made you slip up a lot.
In Japan, where gun ownership is restricted to shot guns and air rifles, there was just six gun deaths in 2014 as compared to 33, 599 in the USA. If Japan had the same size population as America this figure would still only be 18. In America you are now twice as likely to be killed by a gun than to die in a car accident. And yes the USA figures do include suicides and accidents, but they also include the 900+ people shot dead by your police, and the 110 police shot dead by criminals. And since you have bought up the subject of atheism, 31% of Japanese are now atheists. A figure which increases every year. If you go where the evidence leads you (the scientific method) you can come to only one conclusion - Japan is a much safer country to live in than America. And by a long way. I also have to tell you that in 2017 godless Japan is a far more moral country to live in than America.
Full-auto weapons can be purchased in the United States, but require what is called an ATF Tax Stamp; meaning you have to register. AK47's are legal, and are fully auto.
However, reports as of now on this shooter are that he was using a modified AR 15 (meaning the gun was converted from semi-auto to fully-auto at home) which IS illegal. And tampering or modification of a semi auto to fully auto is illegal because it has not gone through the ATF. No legislation you can think of can stop that.
Hey Ben YOU are not familiar with firearm laws. NEW manufacture of automatic weapons was ended in 1986. You can buy automatic weapons today .... as lonng as you can pass an ATF background check and can afford the market price, which is steep. Average price of an automatic M16 is about $15K
BS"D
O man! B"H you are so genius
Mitzad halacha, laruts for president, ata lo aita iachol, velomdim et ze mi Iosef haTzadik, but man,
you should do something to help your country your blessed country, you should do it almost for sure.
ask your own Rav, but you could do so much good.
a gut yohr!
All the best
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With all due respect... How can anybody, especially someone of this level of intelligence, say that 50-60 people were murdered when there has not been one convincing photo of a real dead person???? Show me one, just one, photo of a real bullet hole in a real person. Not 50 photos of 50 victims.... SHOW ME ONE!!!!!
It is legal to own a full auto weapon if you pass the necessary background checks (which this guy would have) and wait 4-18 months for your ATF tax stamp. Once the ATF sends this back you can pick up your full auto weapon. the same thing happens when you buy a short barrel rifle, suppressor, some explosive devices, etc... It is confirmed that a couple of the weapons in the hotel room were modified with a bump fire stock. This is completely legal for someone to purchase and does not require any background checks to own.
Semi-Automatic doesn't fire in 3 round bursts; that's called "burst" on the selector.
Non-Automatic means you need to load or cock the weapon before you can fire a round (bolt action and old weapons)
Semi-automatic means a round fires every time you pull the trigger (almost every weapon sold today except shotguns)
Burst Mode means the weapon fires 3 rounds every time you pull the trigger (Only ever saw this on a military weapon. it is illegal without a special permit)
Automatic means the weapon fires until you release the trigger (illegal for anyone without a class 3 license)
Not to necessarily correct Ben, but to at least make his comments a little more clear.
They are called SUPPRESSORS, not Silencers. The ONLY time that a bullet is truly "silenced" or at least make the bullet so quiet that the sound of the firing pin hitting the back of the bullet is louder than the bullet going off is when a "sub-sonic bullet" is used. However those bullets are super expensive in comparison to regular bullets, when using a regular bullet it still makes quite a loud noise; just not loud enough to damage the ear drums.
As a matter of fact, in Britain they are required to use suppressors when hunting with rifles. And that is the only gun allowed (within lots of background checks and money) because they don't want others to freak out when they hear hunters fire their rifles.