Hey there, R here, thanks for stopping by and watching this video, just wanna say, hope you have a good day, also, let me know what other games you want me to go over?
Something I just noticed while watching is that everything refers to/shows the parents having been dismembered but the corpses in the coffin appear whole from what we can see. When Fran sees herself killing her parents the mother's head is cut off, but in the coffin it's attached and doesn't look like it's just been sewn back on for the burial. Just adds more questions about what is or isn't real.
The way I always interpreted this detail was with the idea that Remor killed Fran's parents and twisted her memories to show her a false event. Yes, her parents were dead, but definitely not by her hands. Everything Remor did was just to twist her mind into the perfect state for the Doctors experiments. That's what I believe at least
@@hyablusa517 To extend that point, what if Fran was being told by her aunt that she(Fran) was the reason for her parents deaths, as "If they didn't want to protect you then they would have lived". Furthermore, I believe that the 5 realities are real, but not at the same time. The 5 realities are projections of the soul, so they can bend and twist based on what strong souls are near. Duotine strengthens a users soul, allowing them to see the projected reality, even causing souls to remain after death.
Some of this actually makes a lot of sense especially when considering Little Misfortune, namely the idea of Fran being in a coma and having to find some sort of acceptance in order to pass into the afterlife, as some journals and other texts in Little Misfortune suggest that certain figures, like the fox or maybe even Mr. Midnight, are actually GUIDING lost spirits to the afterlife, and protecting them from evil entities that wish to take them somewhere else.
I'm pretty sure that Fran didn't kill her parents: are you (game creator) really gonna tell me that a 10 years old little girl was able to kill two adults without none of them tried to stop her, and that she was strong enough to cut them into pieces with a simple knife? Fran's parents weren't asleep to she could catch them by surprise, they were awake and at least one of them could stop her in time. To cut arms, legs and heads with a knife is very difficult, it gets a lot time and I doub that Fran has such strength... so if that is a difficult matter, split a person in two is imposible for her.
To try to make logic in an otherwise surreal and dark story that has no clear narrative is kinda pointless because all you can do is speculate on what happened.
@@BeyondDaX I can't help to be logical, it's in my nature since I was arounds Fran's age XD Some of us are just like this: always asking why, always trying to know how things work, always being as logical as posible (and emotional too XD). But besides my personality's traits, I think that the creator of the game left some real clues for us. I don't think that everything in this story is pure ambiguity, because if it would be like that we could just say that all the game was just a Fran's terrible nightmare or that she died the same night that her parents and cat and she's in the limbo trying to put orden into her mind before go to Heaven XD We must trust and assume that some things are narrated in an objective way (like the death of her family, the experiments, the mental assylum), if not... well, this would be madness.
I think it’s more likely that She also Hallucinated How they died like Post-Trauma Justification Sometimes An Child Mind is much more terrifying than Others so She went and saw That they died *but* That was twisted by her mind into This Madness Of An Game named *Fran Bow*
Let's imagine that the asylum theory is correct. If Fran was raised in an asylum and her 'house' was just a figment of her imagination, then why did Grace ask the doctor to take her 'home', when there was no home? She couldn't have been pretending to say that, because she didn't know that Fran was listening in to the conversation, right?
2 years late to this comment but Fran Bow got ported to Xbox so I finally got to play it on my own so- If that theory is the correct one, then perhaps that conversation wasn't exactly real. (Remember Fran takes the pills to even see this conversation in game) so perhaps she did overhear grace and the doctor speaking, but due to being high on her pills, did not understand, and filled in the blanks with what she wanted to hear, which was to go "home" as Grace was likely used to keep Fran in check, a spring board if you will for her delusions of a happy home, which likely were used to bring Fran back to a baseline over her youth as not to break her too soon. So she sees/hears Grace insisting Fran needs to go home, and villainizing the doctor further, increasing her agony.
I'd say the third theory of the worlds and monsters being real because of a tiny little game called Little Misfortune. Little Misfortune takes place in the same universe Fran Bow does and due to certain information plus the twist found at the end of the game it very much leans into the supernatural worlds and creatures (like Itward) being real.
aahhhh same !! I remember this game feeling so uniquely nightmarish and surreal the first time I watched a playthrough of it ,, and hearing songs from the ost (particularly The White Rabbit Question and When Things Are Said) makes all of those feelings come flooding back.
Maybe they saw Mr midnight as a betrayal because he brought Fran happiness. And they thought that Frans parents gifting Mr midnight to Fran, as them being too attached to Fran. Since I'm just going to assume Frans parents knew eventually Fran would be used for experiments. And they figured that Frans parents had become top emotionally attached to Fran and they wanted to back out of the project and it enraged Dr Oswald, who ordered grace to drug Fran. And through the hallucinations caused by the drugs, Fran ended up killing her parents.
I think Grace was the murderer, maybe while she spent time with Fran, she may’ve been drugging her as well as giving her many nasty thoughts, eventually, she must’ve knocked Fran unconscious using drugs, giving her nightmares, Grace then killed Fran’s parents, and when Fran wakes up, she finds herself in the middle of that gory mess with knife in hand, spiraling her down into some sort of reverse denial, knowing she didn’t kill anyone, but all she remembers is awful imagery, so she’s ultimately fooled into thinking she legit did it in some blind violent outrage, and she may do it again at any point without her knowing
I don't think Fran killed them. Dismembering someone takes insane strength. Also it's mentioned that her parents were surgically cut up. So (I forgot her name) but another person must've done it.
i think they're real, in little misfortune, the use of the 5 realities happen again but this time only with the 4th reality, where both itward and benjamin originate from, i think it's simply that the 3rd reality is the one most disconnected to the other realities, and when one dies or with the use of duotine, they can access the other realities
is there a chance that leon could be itward? in the picture of him being hung he looks like the skeleton and when he gets into the world between conscious and unconscious itward is the only creature he doesn’t meet. he also knows about the fact that he can kill the kamalas with water. the only other character who knows this information is itward. he relieves that the only way he can leave the world is to become friends with the creatures or even being them. this might also be the reason why clara and mia dislike him. if itward is in fact leon then they could possibly blame him for what happened because he physically did carry out the experiment. in the other world he realises his errors and tries to make them see the good of it but they don’t listen to him. the fact that he’s the only adult that’s managed to get to the other world he might have been given the role of guiding kids to light. the visions of the cats were flash forwards to let itward know about another patient was going to join him in the reality. this also shows that oswald thought that fran was special so in that world she was also special. this could mean that possibly leon knew about fran going to be part of the experiment when he was going insane so knew that he also had to save her. this is why he knew about her situation. he also helps her deal with pain and guilt as he personally had experienced it as an adult and knew she couldn’t fight on her own. also in the photo of the nurses and oswald leon is the only doctor not still visible in the hospital anymore. i think he must’ve died due to an overdose of duotine or maybe in fact killed himself when he was supposedly stopped. he is now living in the other reality. he is also quite tall, not as tall as itward looks but he is the tallest in the photo so that could allude to itwards involvement. i don’t believe anyone is going to read this but it seems like an interesting theory and i don’t think anyone has said it yet!
I find it hard to believe a little girl could cause all that damage to two full grown adults with just a butcher knife. I think Grace was the real killer and Remur was lying to try and break Fran.
I think that her parents were already killed or dismembered somehow, and Fran had stumbled upon them, and with Remor’s manifestation of the insecurity and paranoia Fran might have finished them off with the knife or stabbed their already dead bodies
But it's also hella sad, horror ganes often show a biased representation of asylums, they are better now but the horrors of mistreatment, improper care and life endangering "treatments" Is hella real in the late 1800s and early 1900s
@@justapassingbycommenterrem5642 They’re better, but I’m not sure by how much. We’ve gotten much better at hiding & ignoring the tragic stories as a society. I still come across stories of rampant abuse, murder & suicide in those places. Investigations that go nowhere, because no one really cares about the people in these places.
I like that you actually put so much heart into your content , it's amazing that you uploaded the first video like yesterday or today and now you already have the ending
Kinda like the idea she never left the asylum. It's so dark. Terrible. Though it turns this whole adventure into a kind of 'making peace with yourself and your life before passing on' deal. Which goes interesting with Little Misfortune, where she has to safely find her way to the afterworld after being tricked and killed by evil forces, escaping her unkind world in the process.
Something I noticed is that Fran's clothes are a combination of the straitjacket and the yellow dress you see in her closet later in the game, you can even see the belts in her back. Does this mean she's been held in a straitjacket through the whole journey?
I believe that everything has to be real, or at least a vast majority of it is real. Several people having the exact same hallucination is basically impossible. Even if they take the same drug, a hallucinogenic is a hallucinogenic, it doesn't control what you hallucinate.
This is a tough one to explain. Every explanation leaves stuff out though. Take Mia and Clara. How did they die? Dr Deern says they died shortly after they were sewn together. Itward says they killed each other while blaming him for their fate. Another letter says they hated each other and they killed each other out of spite. We see a tiny infant in a crib that has been sewn together and a picture of two old people sewn together. Dr Deern says they were sewn together "so Dr Oswald could see how it affected their DNA", yet blood transfusions had been a thing for over hundred years (1818) by this point. They know what would be the result. Much of it feels like a small girl who has no idea what is going on is putting things together based on her imagination and hearing conversations she does not quite understand. Or, maybe it is metaphorical and not meant to be taken literally. Or maybe it is all real, the veil between worlds grows weaker as ancient gods stir from the slumber of uncounted eons. Fran Bow is cute and charming, but you are better off not trying to look too closely at the story. That way lies madness.
Thanks for explaining Fran Bow’s ending it was very confusing,but you helped me and everyone in the GamerSault community understand Fran Bow’s ending,great job GamerSault
Idk if it’s a detail I missed, but I never got the impression she couldn’t open the door to her house due to her not having a body. It was a locked door. My brain went to the assumption that since the murders that it has been sold and someone else lives there now. It is not longer her home, it’s someone else’s now.
19:13 I can't believe I only just now realized this..! Of course water would cause the Kamala to react that way. Water, is a universal sign of rebirth. So perhaps after being given or exposed to water, the Kamala is exposed to a rebirthing process- Which turns them into those lighter beings. The Valokas.
I really don’t think it happened in her head. There’s too many things that doesn’t add up, like how Fran unchained herself, or how she knew of information that she wouldn’t have any access to like the twin’s hatred of their mother or Oswald’s plan
what about when returning the office key she took the pills and but them back with out the woman seeing. That could not have been a hallucination due to it having a effect to that realty, i think this proves that its not all about the pills.
no i’ve been obsessed with fran bow and sally face for like 2 years, thank you for making this to bring the community back together my heart is so happy
I think that, with Little Misfortune in mind, everything both happened and was in her mind. While she couldn't have created all of that herself, with the help of Duotine, she could perceive the other realities and even go into them. When inside the well, if you take the pills on the 2nd floor, she will actually fall down, as she was standing on what would be thin air, bun on another reality wasn't. The being on those other realities actually exist and, in the super reality, the human perception just goes crazy and can't really get everything together correctly, despite things actually being there, so you get those trippy visuals. Things to note as well are the missing pages in the journal being found on Little Misfortune, which would be wild for another kid to imagine something Fran imagined, in sync.
Considering Little Misfortune having many of the same elements expanded upon, and the fact that the state of the five realities has changed due to events that happened before Misfortune, I believe that what happened was real.
Okay, I've loved Fran Bow ever since I watched Jacksepticeye's playthroughs of it in 2016, I've only just realised that Remor is a suedonym for remorse. He is the manifestation of the fear, guilt, anger sadness etc. Fran experience's because she's remorseful that she killed her parents (unknowingly) under the influence of Doctor Oswald, Aunt Grace and the duotine.
The name of profesor León shouldn't be spelled as "lí-on": león means lion in spanish, yes; but león is spelled as le-ón (the "le" of lemon and the "ón" of turn on). When an accent (á, é, í, ó, ú) appears over a letter, this one must be pronounced with strength, that's what accents are for. P.s: Yes, I'm spanish jajaja.
@@emyogurtkawaii5563 yeah remord means remorse xD i'm sorry I don't know how I forgot the word when I was commenting it's literally the same word 😂 damn i must have been tired
The last scene I assume that Palontras or good doctor gave her an assisted death because he can't stand seeing her being experimented on anymore, freed her from suffering.
I wanna believe that fran bow didn't kill her parents and dismembered them, remember she's just a child. They, are adults, they are stronger than fran. My theory is that Aunt Grace hates her sister just like clara and mia situation, she was jealous coz her sister found happiness and love, while aunt grace did not. Aunt grace then told Oswald that Her sister betrayed them. Then proceeds to either Aunt grace killing her parents and tell fran that she killed them, or Oswald hired someone to kill fran's parents to avoid spreading information about his asylum, after that, Oswald told lies to fran that she killed em'. Another theory is that "Remur" prince of darkness, is just a hired man cosplaying as remur to manipulate people into believing negative thoughts, it's a way to attack people mentally. I really hope matpat will make a theory about this... Also, good video!
Theory: Remore and Margo (Little Misfortune) are brothers (whether just them or not) and they both chase after children. Both attacking the child's emotions. Remore does this in visions and dreams while Margo does this through a game. Itward and Benjamin (Little Misfortune) are both protectors of children chosen by Remote and Margo.
I can't believe it took me this long to realize that Kamalas and Valokas are literally words from the finnish language. Kamala meaning awful and valo in Valokas meaning light, so someone or something that is bright. I still learn something new everyday it seems by watching old videos🙃
You have some really good theories on this. I love the complexity and attention to detail in this game. I can't help but feel terrible for Fran. The poor girl can't catch a break. She just wants to live a good life with her loving parents and loving cat, but can't for all these crazy doctors. You are very historically accurate about the whole human experiment thing. The only thing I have to question is the ultra-reality. You make many valid points that it could be all in Fran's mind, but there's something that doesn't agree with that theory. Why, if other people are taking this drug, can others see the exact things that Fran sees? Aren't hallucinations and the kamalas based on personal experience and interperations of reality? When Fran freed Doctor Deern, he sees the exact scene and "hallucination" that Fran sees. I doubt that everybody who consumes this drug have the same experience. But yes, saying all of this was real seems surreal itself. Perhaps the other realities exist, and duotine is a drug that expands the human mind to the extent they can understand these realities. Remor says he can't be seen in the third reality. Perhaps, because this was around WW2, that humans had made a drug with such psychological affect that people were able to comprehend the concept of these other realities? WW2 was a popular time for drug and human experimentation, it could check out.
Although I agree with most of this theory I just wanted to add my own thoughts on whether the characters like itward are real or not. I think that they are real and exist in a different reality and itward and mr midnight who might possibly be a hallucination or a spirit of her cat to lead her to the other side or heaven. The reason I think this is from the second game the creator made called little miss fortune. At the end of the game we see familiar characters from this game like the beetle pig and itward. This is in a sort of in between to the after life. This could be where strange entities lead children to the afterlife and away from there suffering like how Benjamin does for little miss fortune in the second game. This is just my theory but I think it explains some things.
Actually I started to think about what happened to Aunt Grace and Dr. Oswald when Itward kind of push them off, like back to Dr. Marcel theory. Even though it was too late to save Fran, I imagine that he successfully bring justice for her and that the part where Itward save Fran were the police that arrested Aunt Grace, Dr. Oswald, and every staff member for their crimes. This is my theory on what happened to Aunt Grace and Dr. Oswald when Itward saved Fran.
This story is so much deeper like I thought, but couldn’t completely understand because pieces I didn’t see in play throughs. I love R’s explanations and theories they really help to achieve theory closure.😊🤔
With Little Missfortune, it's pretty much confirmed that the Five Realities and the monsters reside within (Remor, Mother Mabuka, Itward, etc) are also real.
I know one thing for sure is Fran didn’t kill her parents, she’s a little girl there was no way she could overpower two adult and kill them like that with such force
I've loved the analysis on this matter, not only is it really well explained (and deeply pleasant to listen to!) but i'm enjoying a lot all the different theories and there's so many things i never noticed, thank you so much for the great job!
This story reminds me of American McGee's Alice. It had a similar idea of Alice witnessing her parents death at a young age and being so traumatized that she started to escape to Wonderland, which is a sick twisted fantasy world corrupted by her trauma. The second game even has Alice jumping back and forth between Wonderland and the Real World as her trauma continues to get worse and she has trouble figuring out which is real and which is fake
I have a mini theory on Frans mental psychology, she could be schizophrenic and the pills enhance the schizophrenia, inward and mr midnight are her protector parts of her schizophrenia, and remore is her guilt, fear, doubt, and pain of her schizophrenia that got the best of her and lead her to murdering her parents at a young age. She grew up in the mental asylum, when she trys to escape she falls off a cliff, which leads her to be in a coma then at the end she decides to let go of trying to wake up and finally goes to live in her version of a heaven.
I don't agree the fifth reality being a construct of the drug: the boy in the asylum mentions "he" does not allow him to help her. How can different people's incarnation of Remur cooperate with one another if they're only a construct of our imagination? Also how did Fran bow know dr.deern's dad abused him? I don't agree with Fran dying that early in the story: After Fran bow escapes the asylum into the hedge maze, we see the guard alive walking over and then walking back to the asylum. With this I only believe Fran bow dies when she is shot and her brain is experimented on. Perhaps without Fran bows spirit, Oswald's experiments turn out to be a failiure I do agree Mr midnight is probably dead. Grace may have gotten another black cat, the skeletal remains, or just a construct in Fran bows head.
I actually seen kamola type entity when i was 5 or 6 years old i seen a house which was most of the time closed most of the time with no one there and i play alone but one day i seen a way when i steps in every thing Turned black when i steps back every thing become normal so the i ran out of there then i woke up for somedays i didn't get any dream byt then i got a dream with the same house but there was a entity out the door and a little boy who informed me to notice the kamola now i think what would happen if i gone in the dark then i never got that house in my dream 😅
This game shows a lot about twin experiments. I wonder if Fran Bow was a twin and the other daughter was given away for adoption to other people in the experiment group to see how they would differ.
My first impression was that it was mostly real, except that Remor lied about what happened to Fran's parents. He seems to only care about causing as much misery as possible, and he would've picked up on her survivor's guilt, so it'd make sense for him to show her whatever would be the most painful regardless of whether it's true. Although... With how this setting works, it's possible that she didn't do it *and* he wasn't lying. That could've been another Fran. DXD
Also I kinda wonder if Remor was really motivated by pure sadism the whole time, or if he was like, playing emotional 5D chess to get Fran (and others) to achieve the same kind of enlightenment that Leon did? I don't think we really hear much about his precise motives, but it's interesting that he doesn't try to prevent Fran from going to Ithersta in the end. Also it looks a lot like he's literally a doctor, with voluntary patients and everything. (This would be seriously messed up, but what isn't in the 5th Reality. DXD )
I only noticide that fran never had a normal childhood as when she was a 10 year old girl they gave her a cat she said that it is her only friend which mean that if she wasn't allowed to go outside, maybe the parents took her home only to be with her 24/7 but maybe kept her in a the house similar to what the doctors would have done
I go with the theory of Fran being in a vegetative state and doctors are experimenting with her, so, when palonthras take her soul, she dies in the reality and finally goes to Ithersta.
I'm so glad to have found you because I had FoundFlix for horror movie analyses and now you for horror games :D Really love your in depth explanations, I can't wait for more videos!
About the twins I noticed that one body in the well is a lot more decomposed than the other, and when they separate in the ritual one twin has a bloody spot in her abdomen and the other one doesn't. Does this mean that the one who was weak died and the stronger survives? Maybe the surgery was too much for that one twin and she started to get really ill while still attached to the other and that's why the angry twin tried to cut her off instead of helping her?
Im interested in the fact, that when some unknown people found Fran, took her and started walking to the asylum, the one of them *at least one of them) was dressed in the robe, like an occultist. I think that these people summoned Remore on purpose, and sat down to wait for Fran in the forest, knowing she will appeared sooner or later.
I think the scream Fran heard wasn't her mother but Aunt Grace as Grace was the one who dismembered her own sister and brother-in-law. She hid when Fran came in and Remor manifests and lies and tricks her.
The notes of the doctor are to concise and complex for me to even accept the concept that she was imagining everything. A child of her age ain't gonna hallucinate the written word with precise dating and layout like that. So it is likely both. There are moments of hallucination but also moments where things are very real.
To be bloody honest my favorite character is Dr. Deern (Itward as well) I don't know why, but, I feel like he's just a guy who tried to help uncover the truth of the asylum (even though he had a hand in the evil, delish, inhuman experiments... to degree) and cares about Fran's wellbeing.
What if fran had commit suicide, as she said she chooses happiness, after learning the truth about her parents aunt and dr oswald as she said she doesn’t want to suffer anymore, so this would explain why she goes to ithersta or heaven in the end, as she is dead.
I feel that the different realities are both there and not there. Fran is clearly able to learn things that she didn't know previously and would be impossible for her to know. The part i believe is made up is the environments she enters to learn these things and are simply her young mind trying to make sense of the things she is experiencing.
Hey there, R here, thanks for stopping by and watching this video, just wanna say, hope you have a good day, also, let me know what other games you want me to go over?
Little Misfortune
Little Misfortune takes place in the same universe as Fran Bow, which seems to prove that some of the forces that go on is real
Little Misfortune
Life Tastes like cardboard. You need to do it
Life Tastes like cardboard. You need to do it
Something I just noticed while watching is that everything refers to/shows the parents having been dismembered but the corpses in the coffin appear whole from what we can see. When Fran sees herself killing her parents the mother's head is cut off, but in the coffin it's attached and doesn't look like it's just been sewn back on for the burial. Just adds more questions about what is or isn't real.
YES it's so true
The way I always interpreted this detail was with the idea that Remor killed Fran's parents and twisted her memories to show her a false event. Yes, her parents were dead, but definitely not by her hands. Everything Remor did was just to twist her mind into the perfect state for the Doctors experiments. That's what I believe at least
@@hyablusa517 I thought it was her guilt doing it too. Sometimes survivors guilt can twist memories into something that didn't happen.
@@savannahhague4989 That's definitely a real possibility, one i never considered
@@hyablusa517 To extend that point, what if Fran was being told by her aunt that she(Fran) was the reason for her parents deaths, as "If they didn't want to protect you then they would have lived".
Furthermore, I believe that the 5 realities are real, but not at the same time. The 5 realities are projections of the soul, so they can bend and twist based on what strong souls are near. Duotine strengthens a users soul, allowing them to see the projected reality, even causing souls to remain after death.
I think Oswald doesn't want Fran to have a pet because it's another connection that brings positive emotions which goes against the experiments.
Finally! I couldn't find the right way to express this. Thank you for doing a great job at explaining.
The 1 dislike is the therapist trying to deny this lmao
What about the other four?
@@bobfan956 the nurses after being told they will get more cash
Damn there’s 48 now
All 77 are all of the members of the asylum denying this
There are dislikes?
Some of this actually makes a lot of sense especially when considering Little Misfortune, namely the idea of Fran being in a coma and having to find some sort of acceptance in order to pass into the afterlife, as some journals and other texts in Little Misfortune suggest that certain figures, like the fox or maybe even Mr. Midnight, are actually GUIDING lost spirits to the afterlife, and protecting them from evil entities that wish to take them somewhere else.
You should explain the story of "little Misfortune" next!
Liking so he sees this, little misfortune is not really an horror game, but both games are connected. It also has a really great story
Sounds good
"I'm a little lady, y'know? That's what I am."
hi iroh :)
@@PablarEscabo it's kinda horror with the death and kidnapping and stuff in it
I'm pretty sure that Fran didn't kill her parents: are you (game creator) really gonna tell me that a 10 years old little girl was able to kill two adults without none of them tried to stop her, and that she was strong enough to cut them into pieces with a simple knife?
Fran's parents weren't asleep to she could catch them by surprise, they were awake and at least one of them could stop her in time.
To cut arms, legs and heads with a knife is very difficult, it gets a lot time and I doub that Fran has such strength... so if that is a difficult matter, split a person in two is imposible for her.
To try to make logic in an otherwise surreal and dark story that has no clear narrative is kinda pointless because all you can do is speculate on what happened.
@@BeyondDaX I can't help to be logical, it's in my nature since I was arounds Fran's age XD
Some of us are just like this: always asking why, always trying to know how things work, always being as logical as posible (and emotional too XD).
But besides my personality's traits, I think that the creator of the game left some real clues for us.
I don't think that everything in this story is pure ambiguity, because if it would be like that we could just say that all the game was just a Fran's terrible nightmare or that she died the same night that her parents and cat and she's in the limbo trying to put orden into her mind before go to Heaven XD
We must trust and assume that some things are narrated in an objective way (like the death of her family, the experiments, the mental assylum), if not... well, this would be madness.
Plus when we see the grave the skeletonslook whole,even if someone sowed the bodies together it would not fix the bones.
@@Terron-de-pimienta but when Fran killed her parents she was corrupted by a demon, may I remind you.
I think it’s more likely that She also Hallucinated How they died like Post-Trauma Justification Sometimes An Child Mind is much more terrifying than Others so She went and saw That they died *but* That was twisted by her mind into This Madness Of An Game named *Fran Bow*
Let's imagine that the asylum theory is correct. If Fran was raised in an asylum
and her 'house' was just a figment of her imagination, then why did Grace ask the doctor to take her 'home', when there was no home? She couldn't have been pretending to say that, because she didn't know that Fran was listening in to the conversation, right?
2 years late to this comment but Fran Bow got ported to Xbox so I finally got to play it on my own so-
If that theory is the correct one, then perhaps that conversation wasn't exactly real. (Remember Fran takes the pills to even see this conversation in game) so perhaps she did overhear grace and the doctor speaking, but due to being high on her pills, did not understand, and filled in the blanks with what she wanted to hear, which was to go "home" as Grace was likely used to keep Fran in check, a spring board if you will for her delusions of a happy home, which likely were used to bring Fran back to a baseline over her youth as not to break her too soon. So she sees/hears Grace insisting Fran needs to go home, and villainizing the doctor further, increasing her agony.
I'd say the third theory of the worlds and monsters being real because of a tiny little game called Little Misfortune.
Little Misfortune takes place in the same universe Fran Bow does and due to certain information plus the twist found at the end of the game it very much leans into the supernatural worlds and creatures (like Itward) being real.
*Le gasp*
I saw a playthouh of little misfortune, and the second I saw Itward I had a feeling it was all connected in some way!
God I miss Fran Bow, it brings such nostalgia
aahhhh same !! I remember this game feeling so uniquely nightmarish and surreal the first time I watched a playthrough of it ,, and hearing songs from the ost (particularly The White Rabbit Question and When Things Are Said) makes all of those feelings come flooding back.
Apparently there is a continuation in progress. Not sure how, but I hope it's well-executed.
Maybe they saw Mr midnight as a betrayal because he brought Fran happiness. And they thought that Frans parents gifting Mr midnight to Fran, as them being too attached to Fran. Since I'm just going to assume Frans parents knew eventually Fran would be used for experiments. And they figured that Frans parents had become top emotionally attached to Fran and they wanted to back out of the project and it enraged Dr Oswald, who ordered grace to drug Fran. And through the hallucinations caused by the drugs, Fran ended up killing her parents.
I think Grace was the murderer, maybe while she spent time with Fran, she may’ve been drugging her as well as giving her many nasty thoughts, eventually, she must’ve knocked Fran unconscious using drugs, giving her nightmares, Grace then killed Fran’s parents, and when Fran wakes up, she finds herself in the middle of that gory mess with knife in hand, spiraling her down into some sort of reverse denial, knowing she didn’t kill anyone, but all she remembers is awful imagery, so she’s ultimately fooled into thinking she legit did it in some blind violent outrage, and she may do it again at any point without her knowing
I don't think Fran killed them. Dismembering someone takes insane strength. Also it's mentioned that her parents were surgically cut up. So (I forgot her name) but another person must've done it.
@@dustymcwari4468 Grace is never shown to have harbored any resentment to Fran’s parents. It’s more likely Mr. Midnight killed them by her logic.
i think they're real, in little misfortune, the use of the 5 realities happen again but this time only with the 4th reality, where both itward and benjamin originate from, i think it's simply that the 3rd reality is the one most disconnected to the other realities, and when one dies or with the use of duotine, they can access the other realities
is there a chance that leon could be itward? in the picture of him being hung he looks like the skeleton and when he gets into the world between conscious and unconscious itward is the only creature he doesn’t meet. he also knows about the fact that he can kill the kamalas with water. the only other character who knows this information is itward. he relieves that the only way he can leave the world is to become friends with the creatures or even being them. this might also be the reason why clara and mia dislike him. if itward is in fact leon then they could possibly blame him for what happened because he physically did carry out the experiment. in the other world he realises his errors and tries to make them see the good of it but they don’t listen to him. the fact that he’s the only adult that’s managed to get to the other world he might have been given the role of guiding kids to light. the visions of the cats were flash forwards to let itward know about another patient was going to join him in the reality. this also shows that oswald thought that fran was special so in that world she was also special. this could mean that possibly leon knew about fran going to be part of the experiment when he was going insane so knew that he also had to save her. this is why he knew about her situation. he also helps her deal with pain and guilt as he personally had experienced it as an adult and knew she couldn’t fight on her own. also in the photo of the nurses and oswald leon is the only doctor not still visible in the hospital anymore. i think he must’ve died due to an overdose of duotine or maybe in fact killed himself when he was supposedly stopped. he is now living in the other reality. he is also quite tall, not as tall as itward looks but he is the tallest in the photo so that could allude to itwards involvement. i don’t believe anyone is going to read this but it seems like an interesting theory and i don’t think anyone has said it yet!
I think you might be onto something
^^ You are definitely on to something.
An interesting theory I have not heard before!
Definitely possible
bro i read it now in 2024 and this theory is amazing i really appreciate you for writting this 👍😁
I find it hard to believe a little girl could cause all that damage to two full grown adults with just a butcher knife. I think Grace was the real killer and Remur was lying to try and break Fran.
I think that her parents were already killed or dismembered somehow, and Fran had stumbled upon them, and with Remor’s manifestation of the insecurity and paranoia Fran might have finished them off with the knife or stabbed their already dead bodies
Fran Bow is such a creepy game- I’m already having nightmares watching these videos 😅
The one got my nights for 2 months is simulacra
But it's also hella sad, horror ganes often show a biased representation of asylums, they are better now but the horrors of mistreatment, improper care and life endangering "treatments" Is hella real in the late 1800s and early 1900s
but it’s also sad
@@justapassingbycommenterrem5642 They’re better, but I’m not sure by how much. We’ve gotten much better at hiding & ignoring the tragic stories as a society. I still come across stories of rampant abuse, murder & suicide in those places. Investigations that go nowhere, because no one really cares about the people in these places.
I like that you actually put so much heart into your content , it's amazing that you uploaded the first video like yesterday or today and now you already have the ending
Kinda like the idea she never left the asylum. It's so dark. Terrible.
Though it turns this whole adventure into a kind of 'making peace with yourself and your life before passing on' deal. Which goes interesting with Little Misfortune, where she has to safely find her way to the afterworld after being tricked and killed by evil forces, escaping her unkind world in the process.
Something I noticed is that Fran's clothes are a combination of the straitjacket and the yellow dress you see in her closet later in the game, you can even see the belts in her back.
Does this mean she's been held in a straitjacket through the whole journey?
I believe that everything has to be real, or at least a vast majority of it is real. Several people having the exact same hallucination is basically impossible. Even if they take the same drug, a hallucinogenic is a hallucinogenic, it doesn't control what you hallucinate.
exactly!
This is a tough one to explain. Every explanation leaves stuff out though.
Take Mia and Clara. How did they die? Dr Deern says they died shortly after they were sewn together. Itward says they killed each other while blaming him for their fate. Another letter says they hated each other and they killed each other out of spite. We see a tiny infant in a crib that has been sewn together and a picture of two old people sewn together. Dr Deern says they were sewn together "so Dr Oswald could see how it affected their DNA", yet blood transfusions had been a thing for over hundred years (1818) by this point. They know what would be the result. Much of it feels like a small girl who has no idea what is going on is putting things together based on her imagination and hearing conversations she does not quite understand. Or, maybe it is metaphorical and not meant to be taken literally. Or maybe it is all real, the veil between worlds grows weaker as ancient gods stir from the slumber of uncounted eons.
Fran Bow is cute and charming, but you are better off not trying to look too closely at the story. That way lies madness.
Thanks for explaining Fran Bow’s ending it was very confusing,but you helped me and everyone in the GamerSault community understand Fran Bow’s ending,great job GamerSault
Idk if it’s a detail I missed, but I never got the impression she couldn’t open the door to her house due to her not having a body. It was a locked door. My brain went to the assumption that since the murders that it has been sold and someone else lives there now. It is not longer her home, it’s someone else’s now.
i think that when fran goes to “heaven” that she isn’t in a coma but rather having a near death experience.
me whos studying to be a doctor
......fluffy?
*8 years later*
nurse: why are you wearing that?
me covered in cotton: to be fluffy
Wait is this for real?
@@silvathefox7239 i mean im in college and plan to become a pediatrician and plan to do this so not so far from the truth
@@agent001rena2are you a paediatrician yet?
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I can't believe I only just now realized this..!
Of course water would cause the Kamala to react that way. Water, is a universal sign of rebirth. So perhaps after being given or exposed to water, the Kamala is exposed to a rebirthing process- Which turns them into those lighter beings. The Valokas.
I really don’t think it happened in her head. There’s too many things that doesn’t add up, like how Fran unchained herself, or how she knew of information that she wouldn’t have any access to like the twin’s hatred of their mother or Oswald’s plan
what about when returning the office key she took the pills and but them back with out the woman seeing. That could not have been a hallucination due to it having a effect to that realty, i think this proves that its not all about the pills.
no i’ve been obsessed with fran bow and sally face for like 2 years, thank you for making this to bring the community back together my heart is so happy
I kinda thought Itward was Leon…just because of the pictures in his diary.
I think that, with Little Misfortune in mind, everything both happened and was in her mind. While she couldn't have created all of that herself, with the help of Duotine, she could perceive the other realities and even go into them. When inside the well, if you take the pills on the 2nd floor, she will actually fall down, as she was standing on what would be thin air, bun on another reality wasn't.
The being on those other realities actually exist and, in the super reality, the human perception just goes crazy and can't really get everything together correctly, despite things actually being there, so you get those trippy visuals. Things to note as well are the missing pages in the journal being found on Little Misfortune, which would be wild for another kid to imagine something Fran imagined, in sync.
Considering Little Misfortune having many of the same elements expanded upon, and the fact that the state of the five realities has changed due to events that happened before Misfortune, I believe that what happened was real.
Okay, I've loved Fran Bow ever since I watched Jacksepticeye's playthroughs of it in 2016, I've only just realised that Remor is a suedonym for remorse. He is the manifestation of the fear, guilt, anger sadness etc. Fran experience's because she's remorseful that she killed her parents (unknowingly) under the influence of Doctor Oswald, Aunt Grace and the duotine.
I watched your first video earlier today!! I hope you get big!!! You should explain the game House. The pixel one!
The name of profesor León shouldn't be spelled as "lí-on": león means lion in spanish, yes; but león is spelled as le-ón (the "le" of lemon and the "ón" of turn on).
When an accent (á, é, í, ó, ú) appears over a letter, this one must be pronounced with strength, that's what accents are for.
P.s: Yes, I'm spanish jajaja.
finally this comment
By the way, the name "Remor" could be tied to the word "remord" in french which means regrets. It strengthen the theory.
Not to mention "remorse" in English. I love when names have deeper hidden meanings like that fjfjdjsjs
@@emyogurtkawaii5563 yeah remord means remorse xD i'm sorry I don't know how I forgot the word when I was commenting it's literally the same word 😂 damn i must have been tired
@@vrexxpotvin9304 Lol ur good djdjsjs
Well, reality is our perception of things. So even if it wasn’t real, it was still real.
The last scene I assume that Palontras or good doctor gave her an assisted death because he can't stand seeing her being experimented on anymore, freed her from suffering.
I loved this game (and still do) so im glad to see people still talking about it :)
What if the 5 realities are the 5 stages of grief? Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance… just something I was thinking about…
this game, and little miss fortune, is amazing games. they are between scary, weird and wanting to tell a story behind a sad face.
I wanna believe that fran bow didn't kill her parents and dismembered them, remember she's just a child. They, are adults, they are stronger than fran. My theory is that Aunt Grace hates her sister just like clara and mia situation, she was jealous coz her sister found happiness and love, while aunt grace did not. Aunt grace then told Oswald that Her sister betrayed them. Then proceeds to either Aunt grace killing her parents and tell fran that she killed them, or Oswald hired someone to kill fran's parents to avoid spreading information about his asylum, after that, Oswald told lies to fran that she killed em'. Another theory is that "Remur" prince of darkness, is just a hired man cosplaying as remur to manipulate people into believing negative thoughts, it's a way to attack people mentally. I really hope matpat will make a theory about this... Also, good video!
Theory:
Remore and Margo (Little Misfortune) are brothers (whether just them or not) and they both chase after children. Both attacking the child's emotions. Remore does this in visions and dreams while Margo does this through a game. Itward and Benjamin (Little Misfortune) are both protectors of children chosen by Remote and Margo.
I can't believe it took me this long to realize that Kamalas and Valokas are literally words from the finnish language. Kamala meaning awful and valo in Valokas meaning light, so someone or something that is bright.
I still learn something new everyday it seems by watching old videos🙃
i want to believe that she got out, that mr. midnight didn't die. that all of it is actually real. But im not so sure now.
Thank you this has been driving me crazy
Everyone’s comments are smart but does anyone else think the “good doctor” looks like a giant axolotl
You have some really good theories on this. I love the complexity and attention to detail in this game. I can't help but feel terrible for Fran. The poor girl can't catch a break. She just wants to live a good life with her loving parents and loving cat, but can't for all these crazy doctors. You are very historically accurate about the whole human experiment thing. The only thing I have to question is the ultra-reality. You make many valid points that it could be all in Fran's mind, but there's something that doesn't agree with that theory. Why, if other people are taking this drug, can others see the exact things that Fran sees? Aren't hallucinations and the kamalas based on personal experience and interperations of reality? When Fran freed Doctor Deern, he sees the exact scene and "hallucination" that Fran sees. I doubt that everybody who consumes this drug have the same experience. But yes, saying all of this was real seems surreal itself. Perhaps the other realities exist, and duotine is a drug that expands the human mind to the extent they can understand these realities. Remor says he can't be seen in the third reality. Perhaps, because this was around WW2, that humans had made a drug with such psychological affect that people were able to comprehend the concept of these other realities? WW2 was a popular time for drug and human experimentation, it could check out.
Although I agree with most of this theory I just wanted to add my own thoughts on whether the characters like itward are real or not.
I think that they are real and exist in a different reality and itward and mr midnight who might possibly be a hallucination or a spirit of her cat to lead her to the other side or heaven. The reason I think this is from the second game the creator made called little miss fortune. At the end of the game we see familiar characters from this game like the beetle pig and itward. This is in a sort of in between to the after life. This could be where strange entities lead children to the afterlife and away from there suffering like how Benjamin does for little miss fortune in the second game.
This is just my theory but I think it explains some things.
Actually I started to think about what happened to Aunt Grace and Dr. Oswald when Itward kind of push them off, like back to Dr. Marcel theory. Even though it was too late to save Fran, I imagine that he successfully bring justice for her and that the part where Itward save Fran were the police that arrested Aunt Grace, Dr. Oswald, and every staff member for their crimes.
This is my theory on what happened to Aunt Grace and Dr. Oswald when Itward saved Fran.
This story is so much deeper like I thought, but couldn’t completely understand because pieces I didn’t see in play throughs. I love R’s explanations and theories they really help to achieve theory closure.😊🤔
You put these together so quickly yet so so so well!!
With Little Missfortune, it's pretty much confirmed that the Five Realities and the monsters reside within (Remor, Mother Mabuka, Itward, etc) are also real.
Hey R! I love this “radio voice” you’ve been using. Keep it up!
The thing with the bleeding Eyes is wrong. The bleeding is, when the Person is under the Controle of Mabuka
I just watched your other Fran bow video yesterday and wondered when will you upload the next part, and then I saw this :)
I know one thing for sure is Fran didn’t kill her parents, she’s a little girl there was no way she could overpower two adult and kill them like that with such force
My Brain feels like it’s becoming Big Brain.
Welp. At least you tried to make sense outta this absolute *Acid Trip* of a game.
I thought it was all in her head at first, until she crawled under a bed to see a conversation in a different room.
I randomly stumbled on the first video and guess I stumbled on it at the right time haha!
I've loved the analysis on this matter, not only is it really well explained (and deeply pleasant to listen to!) but i'm enjoying a lot all the different theories and there's so many things i never noticed, thank you so much for the great job!
This story reminds me of American McGee's Alice. It had a similar idea of Alice witnessing her parents death at a young age and being so traumatized that she started to escape to Wonderland, which is a sick twisted fantasy world corrupted by her trauma. The second game even has Alice jumping back and forth between Wonderland and the Real World as her trauma continues to get worse and she has trouble figuring out which is real and which is fake
man, your voice is so relaxing I fell asleep befoe you reached your conclusions
I have a mini theory on Frans mental psychology, she could be schizophrenic and the pills enhance the schizophrenia, inward and mr midnight are her protector parts of her schizophrenia, and remore is her guilt, fear, doubt, and pain of her schizophrenia that got the best of her and lead her to murdering her parents at a young age. She grew up in the mental asylum, when she trys to escape she falls off a cliff, which leads her to be in a coma then at the end she decides to let go of trying to wake up and finally goes to live in her version of a heaven.
I just finished the other Fran bow video nice
SOMEONE ACTUALLY COVERED THIS GAME YES I WAS WAITING FOR GAME THEORY BUT THIS WORKS TOO
the back of Fran's dress also has strap-like features like a straitjacket
I don't agree the fifth reality being a construct of the drug:
the boy in the asylum mentions "he" does not allow him to help her. How can different people's incarnation of Remur cooperate with one another if they're only a construct of our imagination? Also how did Fran bow know dr.deern's dad abused him?
I don't agree with Fran dying that early in the story:
After Fran bow escapes the asylum into the hedge maze, we see the guard alive walking over and then walking back to the asylum. With this I only believe Fran bow dies when she is shot and her brain is experimented on.
Perhaps without Fran bows spirit, Oswald's experiments turn out to be a failiure
I do agree Mr midnight is probably dead. Grace may have gotten another black cat, the skeletal remains, or just a construct in Fran bows head.
It makes me so happy Fran bow is still talked about and loved today
If Fran Bow was a series or a movie, it could either be directed by Guilhermo Del Toro or Tim Burton...
I actually seen kamola type entity when i was 5 or 6 years old i seen a house which was most of the time closed most of the time with no one there and i play alone but one day i seen a way when i steps in every thing Turned black when i steps back every thing become normal so the i ran out of there then i woke up for somedays i didn't get any dream byt then i got a dream with the same house but there was a entity out the door and a little boy who informed me to notice the kamola now i think what would happen if i gone in the dark then i never got that house in my dream 😅
This game shows a lot about twin experiments. I wonder if Fran Bow was a twin and the other daughter was given away for adoption to other people in the experiment group to see how they would differ.
I think the five realities actually exist
I like how you dodge the word "kys" and "commit sui"
Ou yes! I just saw the first video on the story timeline and I’m so glad this is now out!
This video was so well made! It was super interesting and clear. Thanks!
I'm convinced that the cat that hissed at misfortune was mr midnight
Mia Clara reminds me of Cara Mia… “My Beloved”. Just a thought but it could be something.
My first impression was that it was mostly real, except that Remor lied about what happened to Fran's parents. He seems to only care about causing as much misery as possible, and he would've picked up on her survivor's guilt, so it'd make sense for him to show her whatever would be the most painful regardless of whether it's true.
Although... With how this setting works, it's possible that she didn't do it *and* he wasn't lying. That could've been another Fran. DXD
Also I kinda wonder if Remor was really motivated by pure sadism the whole time, or if he was like, playing emotional 5D chess to get Fran (and others) to achieve the same kind of enlightenment that Leon did? I don't think we really hear much about his precise motives, but it's interesting that he doesn't try to prevent Fran from going to Ithersta in the end. Also it looks a lot like he's literally a doctor, with voluntary patients and everything.
(This would be seriously messed up, but what isn't in the 5th Reality. DXD )
I only noticide that fran never had a normal childhood as when she was a 10 year old girl they gave her a cat she said that it is her only friend which mean that if she wasn't allowed to go outside, maybe the parents took her home only to be with her 24/7 but maybe kept her in a the house similar to what the doctors would have done
I go with the theory of Fran being in a vegetative state and doctors are experimenting with her, so, when palonthras take her soul, she dies in the reality and finally goes to Ithersta.
I'm so glad to have found you because I had FoundFlix for horror movie analyses and now you for horror games :D
Really love your in depth explanations, I can't wait for more videos!
About the twins I noticed that one body in the well is a lot more decomposed than the other, and when they separate in the ritual one twin has a bloody spot in her abdomen and the other one doesn't. Does this mean that the one who was weak died and the stronger survives? Maybe the surgery was too much for that one twin and she started to get really ill while still attached to the other and that's why the angry twin tried to cut her off instead of helping her?
Im interested in the fact, that when some unknown people found Fran, took her and started walking to the asylum, the one of them *at least one of them) was dressed in the robe, like an occultist. I think that these people summoned Remore on purpose, and sat down to wait for Fran in the forest, knowing she will appeared sooner or later.
Knock knock by pickaxelodge or something.
There's a character called Lodger or the lodger.
In Russian it's called tyk-tyk-tyk
I think the scream Fran heard wasn't her mother but Aunt Grace as Grace was the one who dismembered her own sister and brother-in-law. She hid when Fran came in and Remor manifests and lies and tricks her.
The notes of the doctor are to concise and complex for me to even accept the concept that she was imagining everything. A child of her age ain't gonna hallucinate the written word with precise dating and layout like that.
So it is likely both. There are moments of hallucination but also moments where things are very real.
To be bloody honest my favorite character is Dr. Deern (Itward as well) I don't know why, but, I feel like he's just a guy who tried to help uncover the truth of the asylum (even though he had a hand in the evil, delish, inhuman experiments... to degree) and cares about Fran's wellbeing.
Love the video man 🤩 your too underated keep up the great work.
Girlie was in denial for so long, insisting that her cat was still alive 😭
When hearring fran's love for the cat you would think that the cat was with her all her life but she got the cat a few days before everything happened
What if fran had commit suicide, as she said she chooses happiness, after learning the truth about her parents aunt and dr oswald as she said she doesn’t want to suffer anymore, so this would explain why she goes to ithersta or heaven in the end, as she is dead.
It been years and now we get this yes
Itward's ship lowkey looks like that pig that Fran killed to look for Mr. Midnight
One of the most f***ing sad stories in game EVER, along with Sally Face.
I think I am gonna watch something wholesome now, I have cried too much!
I feel that the different realities are both there and not there. Fran is clearly able to learn things that she didn't know previously and would be impossible for her to know. The part i believe is made up is the environments she enters to learn these things and are simply her young mind trying to make sense of the things she is experiencing.
You should explain the story of cry of fear its a great game!
your voice is perfect for that kind of videos
I'm crying rn ....I never realized how sad her story was 😭😭😭😭😭😭
i just finished the first video as this one came out!