Fake Cold Steel Knives vs Real / Recon 1 AD-10 Voyager XL Counterfeit Copy Chinese China Demko
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- How to tell the difference between fake and genuine Cold Steel Knives when looking at pictures online. If you own a Cold Steel Recon 1, AD-10 or Voyager XL then check them in detail because there are a lot of fakes being sold by seemingly legit sellers.
Don't trust eBay or Amazon feedback alone because most people get duped by the fakes and leave positive feedback.
This is a picture of what the fake Triad Lock looks like... it is a mess: ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H92f16ed76...
Here is what it is supposed to look like: • Tri-Ad Lock, and Why i...
USA eBay sellers that consistently sell fake Cold Steel Knives:
s55day (All fakes)
ohyasales (mixes real and fake)
samsqualitygoods
kedziekoins
All China sellers
Counterfeit knives are a growing problem that not only undermines the integrity of genuine products but also have a significant impact on the economy. These fake knives, often made in China, are nearly identical to their US-made counterparts and are sold at a fraction of the cost. However, these counterfeit knives are often made with inferior materials and construction, which can lead to dangerous situations and can put the lives of the users at risk.
The production and sale of counterfeit knives not only harms the legitimate knife manufacturers and sellers but also harms the economy. It also creates an uneven playing field for legitimate businesses and can lead to lost sales and revenue for them.
Consumers should be aware of the risks associated with purchasing counterfeit knives and take the necessary steps to ensure they are purchasing genuine products. This includes buying from reputable sellers, checking for signs of authenticity, such as holograms or serial numbers, and being wary of products that are priced significantly lower than the market price.
As a society, we must take the issue of counterfeiting seriously. It's not just a matter of losing money, but also a matter of safety, and it's essential to support the legitimate businesses and companies, who invest in research, development and quality assurance. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
This is a picture of what the fake Triad Lock looks like... it is a mess: ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H92f16ed76c0d49e7b64871db77911a7bV.jpg
Here is what it is supposed to look like: th-cam.com/video/9YFsS6hwqfQ/w-d-xo.html
Wow. The lock bar isn’t even contact with the stop pin. That stop pin is what reinforces the lock back design. It acts as a force multiplier for withstanding compression forces.
@@4runner1grfe I try to explain this to people when they claim their fake knife "has a solid lockup".
I bought a fake cold steel kobun off temu. I was throwing it at a tree, and the cheap plastic that held the blade in broke after four throws. The blade on the other hand was actually amazingly durable. I was hitting the blade with an aluminum bat, and it didn't chip at all but put deep gashes in the bat. The handle was trash, but i made a new hamdle for the blade, and it became a nice heavy use knife.
Thanks a ton for providing this detailed comparison to know what to look out for, especially for us who only purchase one and cannot compare for ourselves.
I love cold steals. And in the last year. I purchased a recon 1 Spear point. And a ultimate hunter with the black handle. Both are fake. Sunk over $300 on to gas station knives. Buy from a reputable source. Not eBay. Just bite the bullet. Buy once cry once. Thank you for the information.
Reputable dealer reimbursed you?
@@tunyung No I bought the fake ones off the Internet. First and last time I’ll do that.
@hawkknight4223 well, you got "cold steals"
@@jamesstephenson2346 Yeah, effing voice text screws that up every time.
@@hawkknight4223I'm sorry you got burned bud
Great info. Thank you for taking the time to put this together. I really appreciate it. I have a AD15 and plan on picking up an AD10 real soon. Can't wait to get my hands on that pocket tank.
I highly recommend the AD-10 , I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.👍
I didn't even know that they were making Cold Steel fakes. Thanks.
Very helpful video, happy to report that I’ve purchased the genuine article 😁
Thank you very much! Your video helped me a lot to identify the authenticity of a Recon-1 Tanto that I just bought!
Thanks for the very helpful info . I've been looking to buy a CS knife. Where I am it's next to impossible to know what is being sold . Once I saw the "real" knives (for me) it is much clearer to see a fake vs. a real CS knife . I'm at the point of buying from a reputable seller in the US and paying the import tax here, to get the real thing .
Wow thanks for taking the time and spending the money to educate! 👍🏻
Good informative video Mike , I own quite a few Cold Steel Knives and I have seen those fakes clones on the Chinese website and a few years back I purchased two Ti Lite VI
although I knew they were fake I had know idea how dangerous they was and they needed work done to them before the lock up would function although they was very sharp ,they was extremely dangerous and I would bit someone has had a malfunction with one of those old Ti Lite VI clones.
Good video and you points came across very well. ♠️⭐🎱⚔️🎱⭐♠️
Oh one other thing you many not have known the
Voyager never was cold in CTS HXP only Aus8a and now Aus10a
to the best of my knowledge.♠️⚔️♠️
There’s a couple other differences with the voyager too
The logo isn’t black it’s like brown
The grind doesn’t go back as far it just goes straight down
The thumbstud looks different
Thanks for doing this I have the voyager xl and the AD-10 and they’re so good for the money
Thank you for posting this. I purchased a 4max Scout and Voyager XL tanto from Amazon on a great sale. Seller appeared reputable, had extensive positive reviews. I started worrying they might be fake when I came across comments her on YT from people warning specifically about fakes with a lot of these large Triad Lock models. This video helped me greatly to confirm that I did purchase a genuine product.
Amazon is highly reliable. Not impossible that the knife is fake, but the incidence is very low. Ebay and particularly Aliexpress are more problematic.
That’s been my experience with Amazon - no problems so far. My only worry is that with their return policy, someone will slide a knockoff they picked up somewhere else in as a “return”.
@@puddintame6310I've regularly gotten a lot of fake products from Amazon. Optics, red dots, flashlights, shoes, literally almost anything name brand has all been fake. I quit buying name brand products from Amazon for this reason. Nothing like spending $1,000 on an optic to get an obviously fake product. Maybe I got bad luck but one time I bought and returned 3 different Surefire lights because every single one they sent me were fake, all confirmed by Surefire themselves. I had an Eotech, Trijicon and Sig Sauer optics all come back fake. The Eotech was so bad it didn't come in the normal packaging and it was obviously an LED, not a holographic optic. I was told it was returned but seriously, why are they re-selling returned products as new anyways? Especially $700 holographic weapon sights.
My first legit Cold Steel knife was the Finn Bear that I bought from eBay.
Afterwards, I also bought the Super Edge and the Secret Edge off eBay, believing that they'd also be legit. Obviously they were fake, so it's a bit of a hit or miss when shopping online.
My blood is boiling when i see fake knifes. Thanks for the video i did not know they copied Cold steel!
These videos are so valuable, thanks so much.
Thank you for pointing out all the differences between a fake one and the real one. Now the clones have been corrected and it’s almost impossible to tell the difference so you might be buying a clone and you don’t even know it.
Very helpful, I got one from ebay for 59$ and I’m happy to say i got the genuine one! Amazing deal
Thanks for the detailed video
Thank you for the info! I had to check my 4 cold Steels and fortunately they are real. Appreciate your video!
Thanks for doing this. i just got an AD 10 for 118.00 feom amazon, but it's real it was on sale,🤯 thank god, i have a max 4 scout coming to and it also has the new cold steel logo with the box around there logo. Im so glad you made this video. im sure you help a lot of people out with this video
Super helpful video! Just got a voyager and this was really helpful to verify that it’s real.
Would be nice to post a video on 4max scout. Saw counterfeit with a price tag of $23
Thanks
Getting a Luzon XL today and a Voyager later this week. Should help me see if they are real
Do a side by side destruction test
Great video. Thank you! 👍
Never seen the screws pre installed. Also the Amazon has the price of the now closed LTSPECPRO website, so inexpensive is not always a tell.
Thank you, I needed to see this
Thank you for detailed video
I called a guy out about his fake CS at a gun show for sale he tried to bs me but I have 52pcs and counting didn't work.
Thank you sir.... it was awesome information.. thanks again...
On the Voyager the blade is sharpened better on the real one where it comes down to the choil.
Compre una Cold Steel SR1 en amazon USA como puedo saber si es original??? Viene con el nuevo logo en la hoja
If it has the new logo then it is most likely real.
Hi, thanks for sharing. How much does that spear point recon 1 in that steel sell for?
The real one is about $100. Fake is about $18.
Prices vary though.
Thank you for this video. From what you posted, it looks like the AD-10 I got on Amazon is real.
I have an original recon 1 clip point, aus 8 steel, I bought it in 2014 and it only cost me 50$. Funnily enough it almost looks like your fake has better handle material than the genuine article. I think the pocket clip screws on the other side are exclusive to certain knives, as it seems alot of other models don't have it either.
fake has really shitty locking system
Thank you- great information.
great job. many thanks
This helped a lot when I ordered a fake but thanks to u I was able to refund it
Is it safe to buy CS products on Amazon?
I have all three models. Thank You for the info. All My blades are real.
So hard. I have a Raja 2 that I'm pretty sure is fake but its been tough as nails
i got the fake ad10 from china but shipped from texas :) what steel does the fake ad10 have? i like the knife may order the real one later if it is a big difference...fake one is sharp and locks tight with good grip...
The fake has a steel similar to AUS8. It will dull faster but it is easy to sharpen.
The main thing is to not trust the lock 100%. It may feel tight but it is nothing like the real deal.
Normal use and tasks you should be fine though.
@@MikesCarInfo thank you for around 100 for the real one i may just get a small fixed blade...
Thanks for this video, I got sold a clone recently of the ad10 and it had all the indicators including the dot by the S. Its choil was in the right place, about the only thing that didnt red flag. Flimsy box and no clip. I thought I was buying a shipped from sold by Amazon item but got a 3rd party seller accidentally when I placed the order without double checking to see if the sellers changed from inventory moving around. Getting a full refund and just ordered one for $50 more off blade HQ. Its more expensive but atleast ill be getting the real deal.
I've bought 6 cold steel knives from Amazon and the boxes always come I m damaged
I have a brand new spear point recon 1 that has all of the correct features but the blade coating is not shiny. And I bought it from knifeworks which I trust completely.
They always say they didn't know on ebay too. Ty!!
Some counterfeits are made with decent alloys like 9Cr18MoV, that the chinese through a proper termic treatment achieve an acceptable level of retention.
To clonate like this in the origin is socially impossible.
Thank you!
Needed Video! Well done, Bro! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
Al final usas las navajas para hacerte un bocadillo y poco más las originales muchas más calidad pero muy alto precio
I've purchased 6 cold steel knives and every times the boxes come damaged miracle the knives weren't damaged I purchased on Amazon
Just bought one for 110 on amazon ships and sold from amazon is it real??
Most likely but I would still look it over when it arrives just in case.
The grind as well on the AD 10 vs the fake, the original has a higher grind as opposed to the knock off
I only paid $90 for mine from blade HQ like a year ago
Thanks to these comparison videos the clones are almost perfect. If you purchase a new clone of this same knife today? It’s identical.
Do the fakes imitate tri-ad lock or are they all obvious lock backs?
Check out the pinned comment on this video. The fakes are more like lock backs but with poor angles.
Thank you very much! Is there a Chinese copy of Cold Steel VERDICT (AUS10A)? thank you . 🤝
gods work
Just bought the AD15 from Amazon and didn't realize they changed there logo so I thought it was a fake Amazon sells real products so was just trying to find a video to see new logo
Amazon is not 100%. Some people get shipped fakes and do not even know it. Depends on the Amazon seller.
My AD-15 from Amazon was fake 😒
I didn’t even know there are cold steel knife fakes on the market.
wow those fakes look so convincing. i'll bet with any hard use, you would know it was fake. are they trying to pedal these on Amazon too by chance?
YES...sadly 😢
COLD STEEL obviously dominating the folding market ..
you surer not mixing up older models? plenty of older ones are still selling outta stores especially here in canada
No. Older models do not have the characteristics that the fakes have. You can see all the older models here: www.coldsteel.com/catalog-archives/
Thats what I was thinking, I recently purchased a recon 1 at my local knife store and it past all the tests except mine has the old logo.
Those are all Fake cold steel folders that he said was fake, and all real Cold Steel folders that he said was real ,it's a good informative video. Share it ⚔️🎯⚔️
@@Jay-zw4co There's a point there.
Should one ask local store some precise information on how long they've had that knife for sale, and which provider was it ?
Or should that be naive ?
😂 I got the fake one but I knew it was fake I like the handle mainly bought it because of the ergonomics
I hope someone would come up with a video IDing the steels used in counterfeits. I get that steel will not go above 7cr quality but just for the sake of discussion, what if the counterfeits (not just of cold steel) have actually decent/passable steels (at least 5-7cr). Of course they should go and have their own brands, thats not my point.
What im just curious about is if the steels of knockoffs would (easily) break under “normal” use, or that if theyre accepted knife steels
Not all counterfeits are the same. I had a few that wouldn't even take an edge. The best counterfeits are 8Cr13MoV and hold a good edge. Some claim to have D2 steel but one counterfeit seller admitted that all Chinese copies just have 8Cr13MoV at best.
@@MikesCarInfo your reply is probably the most substantial info i have on the issue. I too doubt they will have anythjng better than D2. It probably is just safe to say that they wont break easy, but sharpening, corrosion resistance, will always be something we’ll be left in the dark with until we actually use them ourselves.
Im also just on the issue of blade steel. Im not even going to build quality (especially with folders). So thank you again
I have 2 cold steel recon 1 tantos and both are made by cold steel. My first recon 1 tanto has a shiny finish on the blade while my secong recon 1 tanto has a shiny finish but not as reflective as my first buf they are both real as the i checked both really careful not just on the knives but the boxes as well and they are exactly the same. Also i paid 130 for my first and 90 for my second but only because i found a good deal.
The fakes generally have a shinier black coating ✌🏼
What about cold steel knives sold straight from Amazon?
I think you'll have pretty solid luck on Amazon. I haven't ever gotten a fake blade from any manufacturer on Amazon. Just check on reviews and specs.
Yea I got a voyager Xl tanto then an AD-10 THEN the new talwar NOW I’m getting the micro recon 1 from amazon and so far until I get the micro recon they all seem real to me
They are good, but prefer buying directly from amazon (in terms of the seller), they are going to be more diligent as to not sell counterfeit shit, whatever it is.
My AD-15 from Amazon was fake as hell.
The best way to make sure you aren’t getting a fake is to buy from a reputable dealer. If you’re buying one new off eBay at a price that’s “too good to be true”, it’s a fake. Just buy from a good retailer and accept the price. You’ll be getting a real one. That way you’re not spending money on a fake, then finding out you got a fake, you have to spend money on a real one. You’re actually saving money by purchasing a known real one from the start.
Do you know any reputable dealers that buy/sell used or pre-owned knives?
@@MikesCarInfo nope. I’ve only ever bought new.
@@FriedPi-mc5yt One of my concerns is that it is hard to justify getting into knife collecting if the value of them plummets because the only safe way to buy them is when they are new. If fakes can be identified properly then it helps the secondary market and people are less likely lose their investment... Hence the reason for this video.
@@MikesCarInfo I would rather avoid the problem of fakes altogether and just buy new. I don’t have to worry about buying a second hand knife that someone abused or getting a fake. If someone is building a knife collection of knives that are still in production, it doesn’t make much sense to buy used knives if you’re worried about the price falling. Since the minute you use them, the price plummets. If it’s to collect and hope for a value increase. Then you buy new, never use it and keep it in the factory box. If you’re looking for an older beater knife to use, then I guess off market is your only choice. But I wouldn’t consider them collectibles. Collector knives are a whole different area of discussion because you’ll never get a “deal” on many truly collectible knives. Personally I would find an online retailer that deals in used knives rather than buying from some rando on eBay.
I got a fake CS Kobun Tanto and it was obviously a fake. Poor grind and rediculous grind errors on the blade. Handle plastic was off. The clip was plastic vs stainless steel. The copyright mark was gone. I think your missing something about the trade mark laser eyching. The fake ones are always rusting. Go on Alibibaba they are selling AD-15 for $12.
Im looking in YT for any video that proves actual metal content between authentic and knockoffs.
I have a feeling that some knockoff models are really from overproduction by factories that are china- based (or wherever these companies have deals with)
Edge retention has been tested in other videos and the fakes dull quickly. Not to mention the screws, parts, shape, materials, mechanisms are all different as shown in this video. If it were overproduction then they would be identical.
No EBay!!Amazon only and make sure it’s (Free Return).👍🏾
I got taken by an Ebay seller on a fake Kobun. I was ignorant of the replicas and paid almost $40 for a plastic POS.
China buying Cold Steel company few years ago.What are you talking about?
I bought an AD 10 sold and delivered by Amazon so I think I'm fine
Yo m kedaria hasta los clones 😂😂😂😂 saludo desde España
Are Amazon knives legit
Not always.
3:07 Both the fake and real pocket clips are “shiny metal”.🤔
One just happens to be black and the other one is silver. 🤓
I buying only Chinese clones.
You know, I wonder if they'd fake
lesser expensive models, like LUZON.
Probably not, for they'd get little profit.
Would be kind of a decent robbery 😂
There's also fake on medical drugs
here in Argentina. Top brands get faked,
rather than non top ones.
.
They have a fake RAT 1 knife th-cam.com/video/i3ga1R6inBc/w-d-xo.html
Always buy from a reputable dealer, problem solved.
Then new problems... Collectible knife industry ended. Secondary knife industry ended. Value of knife drops to zero once you buy it. and so on.
Got a fake ad 10…..for 28 euros….it’s awesome…don’t try to destroy them to see how though they are
They wil do fine….for the money;))
Chinese clones are good budget knives and do same job like original’s.
fu
Nice vid, thanks!
You can’t buy a knife on E-Bay. You actually can’t buy anything on E-Bay. If you buy a knife, you have to buy from blade HQ, the knife center or similar places.
I've happily bought plenty of things off eBay, including a few knives.
Disgusting, this trying to copy 100%.
Which they can't, they mess up. It's not as good. And it lacks moral to do so.
Being inspired is good. Make your own design, and take and learn from others.
But not a 100% copy.
That's stealing, crime.
so actually i buy this one for 15$ and i destroy him as much as i want and if i lose it who cares i just get another one
Yeah, sure, as far as it doesn't fail
in a very wrong way.
Or either worse, you're left holding
the handle only, when you just flipped out your badass ColdSteel, right after you blamed on badass guy's mother...
haha
😂
.
Sweet Jesus, get on with it.
Thanks for your patience, or lack thereof! 😄 Detailing knives isn't like cutting through butter, it requires time and precision. Just like in cooking, the best things are worth the wait. Stick around, and you might just learn to appreciate the craft behind the cut. Cheers!
@@MikesMedia precision LMAO.
@@joewatts2940 I can tell you didn't even watch the video.
@@MikesCarInfo lol i did, though
Pretty weak comparison. You should have disassembled them both. The replica looks really bad inside, many of them have the ''triad'' lock made wrong. You are actually misdealing people by giving an impression that the replica is not that bad, while it is bad and even dangerous.
Description of the video. "How to tell the difference between fake and genuine Cold Steel Knives when LOOKING AT PICTURES ONLINE."
You didn't watch the video. If you did you would have heard me say what the video was about and that the fakes will most likely break and hurt you.
Why don't you fill your EMPTY TH-cam channel with disassembly videos and show us how it is done? Lazy? Weak? Can't get out of bed?
@@MikesMedia Well you say you show the difference between real and fake knives. But the real difference is in the inside. I have seen some disassemblies of the fakes and it is shocking. Maybe don't get all offended I am actually giving you a good video idea as you have all those fakes already. And that video would really show the real reason people shouldn't buy the fake knives not just some arbitrary phrase like ''they are bad quality''.
@@johnsun3854 At this point I can only assume you don't understand English and rely on a translator to communicate online since your comprehension skills are so poor. I am not going to bother repeating myself for the third time.
@@MikesMedia Is that the way you argue, just repeat your point over and over and don't listen to whats being said by the other person? And at the end attempt some kind of a lame insult? OK.
@@johnsun3854 I stopped repeating myself because you ignored it the first(video) and second(comment) times.
As cheap and shitty as real cold steel is.. why fake it?