Plenty of examples of cheaper tunnels in Europe (Laerdal (worlds longest road tunnel) for example). Most of the ones I have been involved with are far more expensive, but move a far greater number of people (2,845 every 2.7 minutes in each direction for example). You need to compare apples with apples. These small capacity people mover systems have their place. But you can't compare them to a modern metro@@Meinan4370
@@Meinan4370 because these tubes do not consist of any safety feature every other tunnel has. No ventilation, no emergency exits, no safe passage, no comunication lines, no water drenage. And they are to bumpy to ride it fast.
Just look at those RGB gamer lights. 😲 The tunnel is so long, it's like you're staring into the Infinity of space on board one of Musk's Starships! For a couple of minutes... Then you have to remember to call an Uber to get you across town. Amazing 21st century tech.
@@AardvarkDK I don’t need to answer your question. I was addressing the “claustrophobic” comment. You brought up your fear of human drivers, which hadn’t been mentioned in this thread. Your anxiety about drivers has nothing to do with me or what I wrote.
from the centre of the south hall to the centre of the west hall at LVCC is a 12 minute walk according to google maps. Plus you get to see all the exhibits along the way, refreshment facilities, rest rooms, air con all the way. from the centre of the south hall to Loop south is a 2 minute walk, mainly outside in the heat; then the escalators down, waiting for a car, and getting you and your fellow travellers loaded, say another minute to be generous; a 3 minute ride to the west Loop station, possibly dropping off and picking up someone else at the central station. 1 minute to exit the station and a 3 minute walk to the centre of the west hall, again, outside for half of it. Minimum 10 minutes. That is assuming the cars and people are not queueing, which they are at busy times. I'm still waiting for a video of this to show me I am wrong but nobody seems keen to do it.
Must be, they put a sliding door on an underpass in "miles from anywhere, Texas" and said they would be doing trials later this year (2023). AND investors pumped US$650 into TBC for a 11% stake.
@@thedubwhisperer2157 I think they have renamed it the cyberhypergiganeuro-X pod. It will travel so fast and so quiet you will never be able to see or hear it.
@@AardvarkDK golf carts are slow, not safe. "giant ad", lmao Elon spent $200 million on Boring Company to sell 70 cars to use in a loop? yeah ok. you do know if Tesla just launched a $5 million ad on Super Bowl, they would see hundreds of thousands of cars. terrible argument.
No hard shoulder. No emergency exits. Imagine a tesla catches fire in there. Who calls this innovation? Just build a subway that ensures safety and fits hundreds of people. This is just an overhyped and extremely cheap looking private tunnel.
You're not getting the whole picture. The battery range of EVs is likely to see a decrease in the future as the automotive sector transitions away from the current model. Privately owned vehicles will have a limited range as to not collectively become an unnecessary burden on our natural resources. For distances greater than the immediate surroundings you will have to drive to one of these where your vehicle will be placed on a maglev carriage and you will essentially be taking a train, with your vehicle performing as a cabin. The tunnels will be evacuated of gases to create a reasonable degree of vacuum. This is still 10-15 yrs off but you have to start somewhere. FYI, the current recipe for lithium batteries is FAR from the safest or most stable but it is easily the cheapest way to create a battery with the highest energy density. This is a necessary evil to establish the technology as a viable replacement for ICE vehicles. Once natural selection renders the combustion engine as extinct in the automotive sector the manufacturers will not have to compete with the energy density of fuel oil and will be able (under environmental protection requirements) to produce cleaner battery tech at the cost of the usable range it can provide
Speaking now as a Las Vegan, this is what happens when fools and hucksters come together. (See also: MAGA.) Local government lifted the usual safety requirements by pretending this thing isn't a transportation system. No, it's a 'ride.' So as mentioned below, if there's a break-down it's jammed, but more worrying is the possibility of a battery fire. Toxic smoke and no visible means of evacuation. It's a stupid idea that is also annoying as hell to local drivers.
A train would take three times as long and cost three times as much to construct than this project which does reduce traffic from the convention center.
@@chrismueller4439 They don't really get jammed because there's a fixed amount of vehicles in the system. I suppose in rare cases where the vehicle malfunctions. I don't see it being much of an issue.
@@wemakecookie Since this is "great, cheap public transit", I guess The Boring Company must have signed hundreds of contracts with cities all over the world. Could you provide a list?
No safety features of any kind! I think I saw one fire extinguisher. The horror that will ensue when a battery ignites in the tunnel. The absolute worst part is it saves almost no time from walking.
They have thought about it, and they have taken steps to reduce the risk of it happening. They've also created emergency systems and procedures (with the help of the Clark County Fire Department) that would be used in case of an emergency.
@@John-vk1ij Yeah, I agree it would be potentially complicated but the details on the boringcompany.com/loop are as follows: "Loop has no internal touch hazards (e.g. a 600 volt third rail), enabling safe evacuation, minimizing potential fire sources, and eliminating any dangerous effects of (unlikely) water intrusion (Teslas can safely handle some rain). In the unlikely case that a fire does occur, the tunnel’s redundant, bidirectional ventilation system will remove the smoke to allow passengers to safely evacuate. Loop tunnels are outfitted with emergency exits, fire detection systems, fire suppression systems, and a fire-rated first responder emergency communication system. The systems are tested frequently with local Police and Fire Departments."
Until they tow out the malfunctioning car. It hasn't happened yet as far as I know, but they're ready to tow it out quickly, because as you say it would jam up the tunnel if it ever happened. We know this from what happens when trains malfunction.
@kevinbailey8827 Bro, how are you even comparing a car to train? Even if We are specifically talking about breakdowns It's still transports a larger number of people individually Thus still making it more efficient Then this bullshit loop system... You need to get over it, this was not innovative, and was a waste of taxpayers money, money that could want to something. More reasonable and realistic like I don't know a light rail system. It's literally just slow-moving cars and in a R.G.B tunnel. 😂
@@Mrtev215 A car can carry three people far more efficiently than a train can carry 3 people. Think of the energy it would take to carry three people on a train. Trains can be more efficient when they are full, but often a train is not full. That is why electric cars are very competitive with trains in terms of energy used per passenger per meter. You can make trains efficient by making sure they are full. Just have the passengers wait however long it takes until there are enough people for the train to be efficient. Meanwhile, the car leaves right away and takes its passengers to their destination while the train passengers are still waiting. As one car leaves, another takes its place, so it can take more passengers. Also, with so many passengers, not all of them are going to the same place. The train has to start and stop many times as it visits many stations to drop off passengers and pick up other passengers.
Europe, Asia = builds tunnels to fit thousands of people on fast subways
USA = builds tunnels to fit a dozen cars in slow tunnels
They were actually driving around 30 to 40 mph in the tunnels. Their speed changes depending on how many cars they have there.
These tunnels were extremely cheap to manufacture compared to Asia and europe
Plenty of examples of cheaper tunnels in Europe (Laerdal (worlds longest road tunnel) for example). Most of the ones I have been involved with are far more expensive, but move a far greater number of people (2,845 every 2.7 minutes in each direction for example). You need to compare apples with apples. These small capacity people mover systems have their place. But you can't compare them to a modern metro@@Meinan4370
@@Meinan4370 because these tubes do not consist of any safety feature every other tunnel has. No ventilation, no emergency exits, no safe passage, no comunication lines, no water drenage. And they are to bumpy to ride it fast.
@@eanayayo Auto pilot should be able to do higher speed, but if 1 car breaks down it'll stop the tunnel.
wasn’t expecting a weird newjeans remix playing in the background, but it was very on brand for Elon tbh
What was the name of the original song?
@@samaschenbrenner “ETA” by Newjeans
Ah yes, Elon truely solved public transportation
This is even stupider than I was already led to believe.
trainbros triggered.
At least put some arrows which end of the tunnel is nearer. What kind of engineers sign off these things?
Very good point. As I understand it this is a requirement under the fire code.
It would be nice to have a sign every 10% like a loading screen
They called it The Boring Company for a reason
Just look at those RGB gamer lights. 😲 The tunnel is so long, it's like you're staring into the Infinity of space on board one of Musk's Starships! For a couple of minutes... Then you have to remember to call an Uber to get you across town.
Amazing 21st century tech.
imagine not knowing they're still building the 68 mile tunnel.
Was that Sandy Munro waiting for his ride in the last few frames?
What a claustrophobic nightmare
Now do elevators.
@@kevinbailey8827 Wow, your elevators have human drivers that get fatigued, Kevin? Where do you have those?
@@AardvarkDK Oh, it’s human drivers you’re against?
@@kevinbailey8827 You answer my question first.
@@AardvarkDK I don’t need to answer your question. I was addressing the “claustrophobic” comment. You brought up your fear of human drivers, which hadn’t been mentioned in this thread. Your anxiety about drivers has nothing to do with me or what I wrote.
People don’t know it takes 10 times as long above ground
But that didn't require a massive investment of public taxes. This is a total waste of money
Eventually, trains will replace the cars. It's building up infrastructure.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 This is all privately funded btw not a public project.
@@michaelcorcoran8768What?? Building roads and maintaining them absolutely is a huge chunck of public spending. You think the roads are free?
from the centre of the south hall to the centre of the west hall at LVCC is a 12 minute walk according to google maps. Plus you get to see all the exhibits along the way, refreshment facilities, rest rooms, air con all the way.
from the centre of the south hall to Loop south is a 2 minute walk, mainly outside in the heat; then the escalators down, waiting for a car, and getting you and your fellow travellers loaded, say another minute to be generous; a 3 minute ride to the west Loop station, possibly dropping off and picking up someone else at the central station. 1 minute to exit the station and a 3 minute walk to the centre of the west hall, again, outside for half of it. Minimum 10 minutes. That is assuming the cars and people are not queueing, which they are at busy times. I'm still waiting for a video of this to show me I am wrong but nobody seems keen to do it.
Why not just build a subway system or reserved bus lanes? This seems like the most inefficient, non-scalable way to move people around.
Cool music
some remix of a New Jeans song
I thought Elon is aiming for building highspeed pod underground something? Is it still in progress?
lol, absolutely not. And it never was.
Must be, they put a sliding door on an underpass in "miles from anywhere, Texas" and said they would be doing trials later this year (2023). AND investors pumped US$650 into TBC for a 11% stake.
The high speed underground pod will be available just after the Hypeloop becomes a mass people-moving reality.
@@thedubwhisperer2157 I think they have renamed it the cyberhypergiganeuro-X pod. It will travel so fast and so quiet you will never be able to see or hear it.
@@thedubwhisperer2157 Is that before or after humans have established a permanent base on Mars?
if they at least used those airport to plane buses they use in Europe... this is like just throw money away stuff, at this point.
Or golf carts. But, let's face it, this is all just a giant ad for Tesla.
@@AardvarkDK golf carts are slow, not safe. "giant ad", lmao Elon spent $200 million on Boring Company to sell 70 cars to use in a loop? yeah ok. you do know if Tesla just launched a $5 million ad on Super Bowl, they would see hundreds of thousands of cars. terrible argument.
Vegas would benefit immensely by light rail. This is silly
light rail cost billions
I thought these cars would be driven by themselves. Why the driver?
fire department won't let them yet
@@runlit120 Why?
No hard shoulder. No emergency exits. Imagine a tesla catches fire in there. Who calls this innovation? Just build a subway that ensures safety and fits hundreds of people. This is just an overhyped and extremely cheap looking private tunnel.
People don't want trains because they are scared of social interaction
Your criticism is reasonable and fair. However, humanity advances through those who try new things.
@@HBGP-007we tried the loop, its a massive fail
You're not getting the whole picture. The battery range of EVs is likely to see a decrease in the future as the automotive sector transitions away from the current model. Privately owned vehicles will have a limited range as to not collectively become an unnecessary burden on our natural resources. For distances greater than the immediate surroundings you will have to drive to one of these where your vehicle will be placed on a maglev carriage and you will essentially be taking a train, with your vehicle performing as a cabin. The tunnels will be evacuated of gases to create a reasonable degree of vacuum. This is still 10-15 yrs off but you have to start somewhere.
FYI, the current recipe for lithium batteries is FAR from the safest or most stable but it is easily the cheapest way to create a battery with the highest energy density. This is a necessary evil to establish the technology as a viable replacement for ICE vehicles. Once natural selection renders the combustion engine as extinct in the automotive sector the manufacturers will not have to compete with the energy density of fuel oil and will be able (under environmental protection requirements) to produce cleaner battery tech at the cost of the usable range it can provide
Ur just a skeptic hater.......what's the record so far?
Views incoming....
oh gosh, its so slowly
faster than subways on average.
@@runlit120with 1/100th of the thruput.
@@nomms nope. PRT systems are calculated on all directions not single direction. Vegas Loop will do 2 million/day capacity for $0 tax dollars.
It's all fun and games until you have a battery failure on a tunnel with no exits
You're kinda dumb huh?
There are two exits… at the very least one if the cars in front carry on. Battery failures are very rare.
there are ventilation systems.
Speaking now as a Las Vegan, this is what happens when fools and hucksters come together. (See also: MAGA.) Local government lifted the usual safety requirements by pretending this thing isn't a transportation system. No, it's a 'ride.' So as mentioned below, if there's a break-down it's jammed, but more worrying is the possibility of a battery fire. Toxic smoke and no visible means of evacuation. It's a stupid idea that is also annoying as hell to local drivers.
I get the first part of your comment, but why is it annoying as hell to local drivers?
@@desertmodern7638he's just making up shit
lol ever heard of a train?
It’s targeted toward an audience that wants privacy and wants to have nothing to do with the ordinary people walking around the strip.
A train would take three times as long and cost three times as much to construct than this project which does reduce traffic from the convention center.
@@Meinan4370 And it would move 10 times the people.
Why is everything and everyone encouraging SOCIAL ISOLATION
Only in the US of A would any adult find this impressive...
Yet everyone in the car, except me, was from outside the US :)
so THAT'S why there's no more traffic jams in Las Vegas
I hope it expands quickly. Great, cheap public transit.
so you expand quickly, you get a single jammed road. the future is here!
@@chrismueller4439 They don't really get jammed because there's a fixed amount of vehicles in the system. I suppose in rare cases where the vehicle malfunctions. I don't see it being much of an issue.
a fixed amount in the system. so this means wait times for entering the tunnel. @@wemakecookie
@@wemakecookie Since this is "great, cheap public transit", I guess The Boring Company must have signed hundreds of contracts with cities all over the world. Could you provide a list?
Oh dear. But on the plus size I have a bridge to sell you.
He invented the tunnel
No safety features of any kind! I think I saw one fire extinguisher. The horror that will ensue when a battery ignites in the tunnel. The absolute worst part is it saves almost no time from walking.
there's literally emergency exits, ventilation systems, sump pumps for water leakage, hose connections under the drive surface. try again?
Just think about what would happen if one tesla catches fire.
They have thought about it, and they have taken steps to reduce the risk of it happening. They've also created emergency systems and procedures (with the help of the Clark County Fire Department) that would be used in case of an emergency.
Why would it catch fire?
@@FernandoC Trivia: Just like any other car, Tesla car can catch fire too.
@@John-vk1ij Yeah, I agree it would be potentially complicated but the details on the boringcompany.com/loop are as follows: "Loop has no internal touch hazards (e.g. a 600 volt third rail), enabling safe evacuation, minimizing potential fire sources, and eliminating any dangerous effects of (unlikely) water intrusion (Teslas can safely handle some rain). In the unlikely case that a fire does occur, the tunnel’s redundant, bidirectional ventilation system will remove the smoke to allow passengers to safely evacuate.
Loop tunnels are outfitted with emergency exits, fire detection systems, fire suppression systems, and a fire-rated first responder emergency communication system. The systems are tested frequently with local Police and Fire Departments."
😂😂😂😂
lmao
What a JOKE!!! OMFG!!!
very narrow very slowly, if one car in front malfunction, entire tunnel will be crammed
Until they tow out the malfunctioning car. It hasn't happened yet as far as I know, but they're ready to tow it out quickly, because as you say it would jam up the tunnel if it ever happened. We know this from what happens when trains malfunction.
Subway trains malfunction also.
@kevinbailey8827 Bro, how are you even comparing a car to train? Even if We are specifically talking about breakdowns
It's still transports a larger number of people individually Thus still making it more efficient
Then this bullshit loop system... You need to get over it, this was not innovative, and was a waste of taxpayers money, money that could want to something.
More reasonable and realistic like I don't know a light rail system. It's literally just slow-moving cars and in a R.G.B tunnel. 😂
@@Mrtev215 A car can carry three people far more efficiently than a train can carry 3 people. Think of the energy it would take to carry three people on a train. Trains can be more efficient when they are full, but often a train is not full. That is why electric cars are very competitive with trains in terms of energy used per passenger per meter.
You can make trains efficient by making sure they are full. Just have the passengers wait however long it takes until there are enough people for the train to be efficient. Meanwhile, the car leaves right away and takes its passengers to their destination while the train passengers are still waiting. As one car leaves, another takes its place, so it can take more passengers.
Also, with so many passengers, not all of them are going to the same place. The train has to start and stop many times as it visits many stations to drop off passengers and pick up other passengers.
@@kevinbailey8827 Where did the train hurt you? Did it touch your peepee?