Deleting TA + Further GB Deletes - How I Data-Drive Decisions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- In today's video, I'll walk you through the mechanics of how I approach city design using both objective data tools and my own intuition. We'll dive into the process of deciding which buildings to store, delete, and deploy. Plus, I'll explain the reasoning behind more Great Building deletions. Stay tuned to optimize your city effectively!
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I am in OF era and i deleted my phantom towers and im getting rid of my key masters too, the quantum incursion military boost blldgs come in handy and can be upgraded. I am not going to level my TA anymore; i am going to get rid of my truce tower. i deleted virgo project. i am at 2500 red power and working on getting it up to 3000 military red boost. I just started my second season of QI and im gettin used to adding to my daily routine. city population monitoring is key to overall direction of city design. When i get more building expansions from higher ages i am going to start replacing event bldgs with wishing wells and FOI to get more diamonds. the titan trio great buildings are my priority for the six months of leveling so i can make more room in my city... the balanced city approach makes the most sense when you look at how you maintain FP farming and managing military boost. I am a gbg fighter and i am deligently working my way up the game ranking. I stay in each game era long enoght for me to build enough capacity to move up to the next level, not a big fan of camping out for too long in any given era.
I like to follow your channel, you provide decent explanations for city design and decent game strategy for longevity. take good care man and have an awesome day.
Thanks for the detailed comment. At least a few of you watch the whole video. My goal is to show how I fish and then hope others will benefit from that. To each their own game and prefs. You’ve got the right mindset for balanced play, which is my pref as well.
There's talk about a GB over haul in the works.
I’d be amazed if there weren’t! Glad to hear
Ubernerd had a chat with Inno apparently some GBs will be getting buffs. What ones and what type hasn't been disclosed yet.
Ciders are crack
Thanks to Bonfry (hope I spelled that correctly) for this Video. I was concerned when MooingCat recently announced he'd be making fewer videos and although I love UberNerds videos, it's nice to have found another FoE youtuber.
Anyway, like many i am waiting (and still waiting) for Inno to put out an official update on which GBs are getting buffs and when.
Inno, if you read this, please hurry up.
I've only had the guts (to date) to delete my ToR and LoA, but would love to say goodbye to CoA + CdM and one day in distant future to Traz. I'm nowhere near as advanced in play as most of you. I'm camping in PE and thankfully have FE units and am at early stages of OF cMap and story questline. Yes, the OF units will be nice, but it's those 6 OF cMap expansions that keep me motivated.
INNO should make most of the GBs a bit smaller by shrinking at least one full line of the gb square total space
Don’t we all wish. I actually think they might go the opposite direction because when this game first started, and for many years, land tiles were at even more of a premium than they are now. Given special buildings continue to shrink. I hope you are right. Certainly the SAT buildings are smaller, but there are three of them almost adding up to a 5 x 6 space yet costing three times the amount.
Kept my TA but got rid of my kraken. 🤔 Kinda wish i kept it now, now that i have space for it again 🤣.
Great minds think a like Bonfry, stored my Phantom ToCs. Saw that i was able to replace them with better buildings that give me more.
Really need to pull the finger out and get myself foe helper downloaded on my laptop. Would love to see a tutorial from you mate. Would be a massive help to all. Keep making great vids like you have. Let the haters hate.
Great to hear from you, sorry for the late response. Summer gets a little bit weird here in the valley of the sun Arizona. Truly, we are indeed talking about opportunity cost, and the benefits of deletion and replacement. Appreciate the encouragement and the suggestion. I will dig into a primer for FoE Helper.
I've also got a bunch of Sleighbuilders, awesome buildings for doing production type quests and give goods when you age up, although that aspect has been nerfed lately with all these new event bldgs lol.
Correct I agree there has been some Nerf, but I still stick by them because there are big reasons to keep the goods production aspect of them. Once you get into advanced ages, it’s a lot more expensive to produce goods and these buildings just pop them out for free without, secondary and tertiary resources
Interesting to see how the Cider Garden City has grown since your last video (I've not watched the QI one yet). Well reasoned points as always. The Hydra/TA equivalence was one of it's main strengths when it first released, but now the SAT goods shortage has passed we're starting to see some huge Hydras, Pegasus, and Centaurus develop - we've got two level 100 Hydras on my world. For me in Future I've only got a lvl 16 Hydra, but it's a slow burn for me in getting the goods and the shear cost of it.
Just 2?
One of the reasons I hold on to my sleigh builders. Free goods with no co-gen costs from the settlement. But I construct those too. Funny how the SAT GB's shrank vs average GB size, but with putting down 3 of them, its still a good amount of real esate - but worth the output.
Love your vids,. I caution any player right now thinking of deleting a Gb to wait a bit, until we see what Inno do with GB rebalancing. after we see what they do, I may or may not delete my Traz. CoA. CdM and TA. I've been swapping out event buildings every month.
I totally agree and cautioning everyone as well, and I try to make it clear in the videos. I’m not recommending anyone do anything I’m showing how and why I’m doing what I’m doing based on the context of my own gameplay. It can be tedious to get through the entirety of my videos, but I’m continuing to hear from watchers that have taken the time that they’ve stayed in the game and grown much quicker because they have taken that time. I hope more will do so since I’m not really doing this for my own benefit. Appreciate the kind comment and your viewership!
When I realized that I could get more units daily by placing Knights Pavilions much cheaper than leveling a Traz, I decided to remove it. The KP also gives goods, gold, happiness and population and if you want lower age units and goods you just don't level them up. Saved lots of space and don't miss the GB. Then again, I am not a huge fighter so might not work for players that are more fight focused.
Awesome. This is all I’m asking for any player to do. Look at their inventory and evaluate what they can optimize based on what they have and what their gameplay is like!
thank you for video. again good stats and another look for aspects of game.. keep going great work nice city
Got 2 new subs from me as I had to switch to my other account to comment. Hey, anyways I've been playing these kinds of games since AoE way back in the late 90s however this game is still very new to me. Curious if you could do a guide for new players or just a tips and tricks for progessing from early game. Alright that's all I got, keep up the vids 👍
Nice, AoE was big for me too. I’ll try to put a new player commentary together!
Thanks, did not realize there was a tool in FOE helper that can solve my headache regarding building efficiency.
how do we get it ?
@@radidov5333 Foe helper?
It's a plug in you can load on Chrome, Firefox, Brave, etc. Go to extension manager in your browser and install it there. I may just do I video on it.
@@foeadvance7024 do it plz. Im ignorant in the matter. I dunno what the name of the extension, etc
I'm in SAT and have dumped CC, TA &COA. Plan is to drop TRAZ next. Then my KRA & CDM as soon as I have something to replace them.
I definitely agree on these. Of these listed I've kept CC & KRK because I like the visual on them. But at some point they will get smoked.
People in my guild give me a hard time about deleteing GBs that give diamonds. I prefer to have more attack buildings for GBG than making my city a diamond farm. GBs require too much space. I'd rather have event special buildings that give fragments, attack, and troops than a small chance for diamonds. I'm in SAAB and I can't wait to get to Titan so I can also delete my Traz. Honestly, I think the only GBs worth keeping in your city now are Arctic Orangery, Blue Galaxy, the Arc, Statue of Zeus, Observatory, Saturn Gate Centaurus, and Saturn Gate Hydra. Building anything else is super ineffecient (some guilds want you to have AI Core too but it's not that great).
I think you’re very much on point with your list. Clearly your latter building choices are guild focused, which is commendable by supporting a guild. You were going to get a ton of fights. Make no mistake, the game has become all about fighting and the rewards related to it. There is a tertiary value on goods, as they are required to fuel the furnaces of treasury and GbG, but a good guild will mitigate these things. Thanks for checking out the channel and happy forging!
@@foeadvance7024 I'm a big fan Bonfry. Thanks for all of the helpful videos. Finally got myself to Titan!
The problem, as I see it, is that we dont know if Inno has plans for future upgrades for these older GB's..Ive deleted over a dozen great buildings over the years but hesitate to do so now because of the recent behavior Inno has been displaying regarding upgrades
I completely agree. I’ve learned in this game, that Inno moves very slow. As I mentioned in the videos, I don’t recommend deleting any building you would not freely afford to replace in the future if it got way better. So far, we have minimal evidence of this. In the meantime, I can reap incredible benefits on any given piece of real estate that is freed up. The game masters know this this really is a real estate efficiency game. Sometimes we have to tear down to rebuild and then tear down to rebuild again.
How do you store units in the inventory???????
Stored units are different than ones you make in your Barracks buildings. Stored ones are called unattached units. You get them from winning them in GE, GbG, events and having buildings that award you with unattached units such as event special buildings. Also an Alcatraz GB will make units based on its level and add them to your inventory of units. Watch some videos about the Alcatraz or traz.
currently ranked 27 on H world and I could never imagine deleting a traz and I have 16 majestic wonders (12 units) +town hall and whatever random crap some newer building gives. I also hate the kraken and surprised to see TA going over Kraken. My city is full of jesters so I do the panda chain strat with BG and make 6-10k FP a day. I'd love to delete some of the GBs but since inno said they are looking to buff some GBs I decided to keep the GBs for now. Hopefully its soon and not blue stats GBG soon...
Thanks for the comment. I think as usual most viewers are not watching the entirety of my videos. It’s just part of how this works. I explained with detail, why I chose these buildings. If you listen regarding why I deleted the Taz, you might consider deleting yours as well if you had the supplemental units that I’m getting every day. Fellow players in my guild ditched their traz’s months ago and are getting 10k plus fights in per season, there’s reasons for that. The whole reason I make these videos is to not show. I’m the best or the most knowledgeable or even recommend you do what I do. It’s to move through the process so we can all benefit each other with ideas that are totally out of the box.
Get rid of the CF, it does nothing at this point. I dumped mine and built a seed vault instead.
Agreed. I deleted it a bit after making this video.
I'd get rid of the kraken instead of the terracotta army. It's seriously useless but the TA at least gives double % (red and blue) within one building and according to rumours, blue stats will soon be required in GBG too.
Yeah, I went over that in the video because I just like the Kraken and that’s all there is to it. I’m a big Cthulhu fan and there’s no way I’m ever going to delete it. That’s definitely one of the main points of my video which is to be as logical as you can about city efficiency but also, playing the game you want to play because you like some of the visuals. The same goes for why I’m keeping the Himeji. I blend art and science, and I’m just trying to show my work to help others refine their processes
nah man, ta is trash these days
I heard that there were plans to update/upgrade some of the GBs but I haven’t been able to find anything about it. Does anyone know anything about it? Can you point me to where to find it? With event buildings getting so good several GBs are Meh! Many really do need updates much like they did with Settlement buildings
Rumors yes, and likely some slow changes over time. I'm not deleting anything I'm unwilling to rebuild.
Sorry for saying this, but anyone making decisions to delete the most essential GBs in the game is going to regret it long term, as the main currency in the game is FPs, you can only spend them on GBs, and even thou many GBs ATM are under the value of the current event buildings meta, Inno has hinted that they are aware of the problem, and have hinted GBs rework in future ... Which is the only logical path to go, or to eliminate GBs completely and FPs as a result of it
I’ve been looking for info on that, would you happen to have a link about the hinting on the topic
@@ekeats2425 it was in one of the videos in early 2024 on youtube, when they were talking about things to come in the game, where they mention the road map they have for the entire game, can't remember which but I know multiple players have confirmed this info to me that they seen the same thing ... I didn't hallucinate it :-E
Thanks for the comment. I have no misgivings about this perspective. As I note in the video, this is not for everyone. I am only deleting buildings. I would gladly rebuild after reaping many benefits of filling those spots with something that’s going to greatly benefit me more during this time (in which Inno may or may not improve one or more great buildings). In the meantime, I’m going to deploy assets in my inventory that are far more valuable (until that time comes, if ever). Inno is notorious for moving incredibly slow, some topics spanning years for them to address, so I’m taking the spoils now, and if I have to rebuild an Inno Tower later because it becomes amazingly valuable, then I will.
@@foeadvance7024 I haven't watched the entire video to be honest, i just commented based on topic, as i see a lot of players now days thinking the same thing, which is very short term and stupid thinking, due to the fact that this is a long term game ...
the reality of the game is atm, that you only need AO and Arc ... and even Arc is debatable in the idea that everyone deletes all their GBs because event buildings are better atm :D
the Orange Dreams is better then Inno and CdM for example, so ... why keep CdM? The answer is simple, the game and it's main currensy is based around FP and only thing you can spend FP on are GBs ... and yes, collections now even range up to 10K daily ... still, my ego nor my logic oriented brain won't allow me to delete a GB that is essential ...
for example, I actually do not use my CF at all, except when i move to a new era ... in reality, that CF even thou is lvl 128, is a pure waste of space for me ... and still im not deleting it ... at least not until i see what the changes will be ...
what if they change requirement for building and leveling as well and make them, same like Titan GBs for example? that you need goods for every level? Then that deleted GB that you had on high level, got deleted, and rebuilt for new costs, instead of just upgraded for free ...
some may say, that wouldn't be fair, but ... settlements were updated the same way, and almost nobody played them until they got updated ... but the people who completed them, got a free upgrade with 0 new effort, same like the players who won't delete essential Gbs, will get a free update with 0 effort ...
and even thou that decission short-term makes sense, long term it's teaching the player to think in a wrong way ... which is short term perspective, by being baited by shiny new things that currently make more sense but long term make 0 sense because they get outdated 2 events later, while the game isn't a short term / short session / short glorification game like LoL, DotA, CS:GO, and alike, it's a game of patience ...
Inno has a roadmap they are following, and are gradually releasing updates 1 by 1, and seem to be leaving GBs for last intentionally, so that they would squeeze as much money as possible from people during transition phase ...
as someone who plays the game for 8 years, and has seen the game go trough many changes, I would highly advise against the above given advice in the video, and against deleting any of the 15-16 key GBs that were considered essential to the game for the past 12 years
@@foeadvance7024 here is another good example of people thinking short term ... just a year ago, everyone was laughing at me for leveling my Blue Galaxy, 1 year later, Blue Galaxy is the most important GB in the game :)
What happens, when a new era comes out, and the best unit will not be the fast arcitype?
In the past I've just used previous era units until I research whatever the new best era units are.
oh my deleting TA before CC
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I know right! Because I like the building. Is what it is.
I built the ai core strictly because it looks cool AF
Heard!
At least it's not Alcatraz this time...
Traz is long gone lol.
You ripping everything out (Donkey, Himeji, Phantom Tower...) yet the only thing you say you'd put down is Cider Gardens. Yet you say, you don't want a city full of Cider Gardens. Which is it?
Well it’s neither yet. Once again, as I said in the video, I’m showing you MY PROCESS and the journey of making on these decisions. This game is fluid and dynamic. Here’s a thought, I invite you to make your own YT channel and put your own content out exactly the way you want to see it so others that troll your content without watching all of it for context can feast away.
OMG this was a massive yawn festival. Too much talking, no purpose, no direction, just opinions, no factual basis. A very bad video.
Seriously? So you didn’t listen to the beginning when I said this isn’t for everyone, I’m narrative and conversant, and if you want bullet points go somewhere else. So GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. This is a process game played over thousands of hours and your in a hurry? Go watch Uber and Mooingcat.
@@foeadvance7024 I love both Uber and Moo but I like your vids too. You all bring something different to the table. Keep it up bud.
I'm gonna stand up for my friend and fellow TH-camr, Bonfry. He does a hell of a job with these videos. He has a style that is very enjoyable and always provides content of value to the listeners. It was not a secret that the video was 32 minutes long when you decided to check it out. A tip of the cap to Bonfry and the channel!
There's a nicer way to say that, isn't there? At the very least, this video made me think twice and recheck my stats.
still a bad video, all his normal buildings are mostly garbage just like all those cider gardens. He could exchange sleigh builders whit jester stage to get finish productions fragments