Fun fact: Kanto already had a Fighting type specialist. He is a former gym leader in Saffron. His gym is now literally a gym. He is the one who gives you either of the two Gen1 Hitmon's.
@@starlight0313 I mean...you are not wrong. But also, Sabrina could handily beat every other gym leader in Kanto and at least half the Elite Four. So, isn't as if she doesn't deserve the gym.
Having a Ground type Kalos Gylm Leader found early in the game with Diggersby as their ace only to show up later in a theoretical "challenge mode" where their ace turns into mega Garchmop would have been amazing/hilarious
One change I’d make for the flying gym leader for Kanto: I’d make the ace Dodrio. It’s BST may be lower than Pidgeot’s, but it’s speed and attack are higher in every Kanto game and it gets Drill Peck unlike Pidgeot, which is objectively the best flying move until Gen 4.
@@RodimusMinor1987 thank you. Now that I think about it; the only major flying type specialist who even uses a Dodrio is Falkner in his Johto Leaders Tournament team. Winona, Skyla and Kahili all ignore it.
He should’ve had an actual Skarmory in the games. It would’ve helped to give more Johto Pokémon to Johto leaders, and it would actually give Skarmory to a prominent trainer
Imagine a Pokémon game where every type has a leader and you just get to choose. Once ya get through 8 you can access the league, but completionist can feel good about fighting all 18.
I like the idea of, even if still linear, having 14 Gyms alongside the Elite Four, with the parts of the region you explore being different based on the version you play and then the 6 you didn't fight before the League being postgame (and/or having the antagonists interrupt the Champion battle for a longer main game). One of the shared gyms between versions could be in the main hub city of the region and be fought at the same point in the journey (we'll say 5th Gym, and be a similar test of skill turning point to the Gen 3 Norman encounter, where you go through the city early-ish on but have to wait to fight it). The other shared gym could be an early town/Gym in one version and a later visited town/Gym in the other.
you might like the gbc romhack crystal clear, its an openworld game based on crystal, you can start from any city and the trainers/gyms scale with how many badges you have. its not all 18 types, but since its gen 2 only dark is missing
@Samoht Still Lives!!!! Best of the best are the champions, so it makes sense for them to be the only ones with no restrictions on their team. I think E4 are fine being type-locked, with just having better pokemon, better counters to super effective types, better AI, etc. than gym leaders
18:53 I have a confession, I thought pyroar was a dark fire type until the video made me look it up for affirmation. It made a lot of sense in my mind; it used dark type moves like dark pulse and snarl often, it’s quite intimidating (pretty sure it has that for an ability), and was weak to my Lucario’s aura spheres.
It is also a Pokemon used by Malva and isn't she associated with Team Flare? I can see the thought process that it is dark type when the Pokemon evil teams usually use them. And Lysander too! Edit: edited because I made this comment before finishing the video because I am one of those dumbasses.
@@afriendlycampfire260 I've actually wanted to try one, and it'll probably be an ice one I think. Although, now I'm getting a sense of "wow now I have all these options" 😂
I came up with a story for chuck: Chuck was Brunos apprentice, and as he went off into the real world, Bruno gave Chuck his Poliwrath and Primeape. Chuck became a gym leader and he only used the Pokemon that Bruno gave him, as he had an attachment to them.
ye but chuck is literally older than bruno lol, plus he already had a story. he is the practice partner of falkner's dad, the former flying type gym leader in johto
I like the concept of having Gengar for poison instead of ghost. Gengar is usually known for ghost but using it for poison can give other pokemon some time to shine
I think Houndour can work for Kanto as well for the Dark Gym Leader, cuz you actually can only find it in Kanto in the Johto games. The reason Pyroar is part Normal, is because its associated with Sound based moves (Hyper Voice, Noble Roar) and the like.
I honestly want a Pokemon game where there is a gym leader for every type and you have to collect at least half of the badges to get into the main tournament or something. Upon winning that, the post-game would be collecting the latter half.
@@User-wt8gd There are 17 in the game so far; the only one that has yet to be added is Dragon. I've played Reborn; it's a great game, but it's super long and super hard. Also, people die in it. EDIT: Reborn's "sequel," Pokémon Rejuvenation, also has 18 gyms, though only 15 are in the game. There is a Dark leader, a Fairy leader, and a Dragon leader, but in the current build, you never battle them.
many people dont like the monotype act for every gym leader, and having 18 in a videogame would be a big problem, also boring with just a fighting type you can sweep 5 gym leaders, no thanks Also whats left for the Elite four???
@@artist0154 That's an understandable criticism, though ideally the game designers would take that into account to balance things out. As for the E4, instead of being type masters they could be strategy masters using Pokémon of all types. For instance, one could be all about having tanky Pokémon, one could be about hitting hard and fast, one could be about throwing around status, and one could be a baton passer. There are bound to be potential issues with this as well, but it is a way for the E4 to exist despite all types being used up in the gyms. If anything, I personally would enjoy trying a game with all the types having their own gym as a shake up to the traditional 8-gyms-in-a-given-order style we are used to, despite flaws like the fighting type sweep you mentioned.
I think it would have been a really interesting idea if this Hoenn Gym Leader's ace was different depending on your version, since Seedot and Lotad are version exclusives and the lines are direct counterparts of each other. They could use the fully evolved stage you can't get in your version: Ludicolo in Ruby, Shiftry in Sapphire and Emerald. They'd both be on the team regardless but the one that the player can't normally find is given that ace position.
Lots of gyms could probably use this idea, another one I am thinking of is blaine. In kanto games (more specifically the one's where starter isn't eevee/pikachu) he doesn't use ninetales or vulpix in his team, but he uses arcanine as his ace. I think it would yhave been cool if it was swapped with ninetales if you were playing red/firered.
Gen 3 has a looooot ov version exclusive or duos (forgive my spellings XD) Loatad and seedot Plusal and minun Solrock and lunatone Zangoose and svriper Volbeet and ilumise Bagon and belldum Wingull and swolow Zigzagoon and poochiena Huntail and gorabis Feebas and magicarp The fossils (in oras) Gardevoir and gallade Glalie and frostlass
I actually really like the thought of an early ground-type gym leader having diggersby as their ace It's the Kalos region's equivalent of raticate or bibarel, and it can allow the gym-slash-gym leader to have a construction or excavation theme
Scarlet and Violet. There where type specialists for 17 of the 18 types. 8 Gym leaders, 5 Team Star leaders and the Elite 4. Only Rock didn't get a specialist in Gen. 9@@catsarecoolio15
For the Kanto dark gym, seeing as Alolan forms are being brought in, I feel like it might as well have used some Johto Pokémon like Murkrow, who is technically a Kanto Pokémon anyway, seeing as it can only be found in Kanto in the gen 2 games
Yeah, I think all the Dark types of Gen 2 can only be found in Kanto, with the exception of Tyranitar, which is in Mt. Silver which is the border between Kanto and Johto. Though i understand why he doesn't use them as they're not Gen 1 Pokemon like the Alola Forms are (Well technically just regional forms of Gen 1 Pokemon, but same thing in my opinion). Though I believe he could have used a Gyarados as well as it's the last Gen 1 Pokemon that isn't Galarian Moltres, with the ability to gain the Dark Type at least Edit: Forgot Umbreon which is accessible in Johto, as well as Sneasel, though that Pokemon is only accesible in Johto by Ice Path of Crystal Version, no other version and Kanto and Mt. Silver in every version so
I think the issue is they started appearing in kanto like maybe 3 years after the original kanto story. Assuming that dex order is the discovery order, there were more than 40 mons before they discovered murkrow.
@@---oq5kb although discovery order isnt canon because the starters are never native species to the region except some particularly rare ones like Rillaboom is from Galar. Especially piplup, which should be native to Kalos, not Sinnoh despite what legends says
For gym leaders who have to have repeats, it would be cool if they had the same pokemon but with drastically different stats, moves, abilities etc. For example, a 3 Genger team could have a bulky counter, so assualt vest set with focus blast, dark pulse, and ice beam, a hyper offensive one with say nasty plot and 3 attacking move/choice specs/choice scars set, and a status spreader. Could be interesting.
Agreed. The great part about Pokemon is how diverse you can make a team, even a team with repeats because of different moves, abilities, and so on can make it unique and good.
I just had an idea for a couple of future videos. The first one would be ‘How hard is it to complete the regional Pokédex in each [set of] game[s]?’, then later down the line would be ‘Can you complete the national Pokédex (if it’s an option) within a generation?’
7:36 dude, he also has a slowbro instead of _slowking_ which was literally the slowpoke evolution introduced in johto. I also understand not giving him alakazam since that was sabrina's ace, but why not an espeon? You could say that one of the kimono sisters had an espeon but they gave karen an umbreon.
I think a cool video idea would be looking at inconsistencies/contradictions in Pokédex entries, like how a lot of drapion’s entries contradict themselves
@@omarmendez0402 the Johto games already have Jasmine for steel types. They don’t need a fifth type specialist overlap (dragon, fighting, poison and psychic are each represented by two major trainers in the Johto games).
6:16 Theory: Whitney would've been a Fairy-type Gym Leader had the type been introduced back then. Her ace would've been an underleveled Granbull, with Clefairy being her starting member. The theory is due to 1: she's childish, and 2: she acts cutsey. Also 3: She would totally give out a TM for Charm or Draining Kiss. They fit her almost as much as Attract did.
@@iffatmansoor5589 I'm pretty sure they could have found lore from around the world to justify Miltank being a Fairy type. Like the Fairy cattle from Scottish folktales such as the White Fairy Cow of Calanais
18:56 The Pyroar evo. line is part Normal because other fire type Pokémon have fire powers within them while Pyroar can just breath fire and is also a normal animal
And he still had one in the Johto games even though no one was using Heracross and he ended up using a Heracross in the FRLG post game anyway. The fact that it actually would’ve given him some good coverage for psychic types makes it even more aggravating.
Actually, a Kanto dark gym is possible without making them exchange. Because in GSC, certain dark types like Murkrow and Houndour, despite being introduced in the *Johto* games can only be found in Kanto, thereby making those Pokémon native to Kanto and not Johto. They would definitely need to be an earlier gym if those were their only Pokémon, but it's not unheard of for gen 1 trainers to have multiple of the same pokemon.
here's an idea for ya Mikey, how about If every gym leader had their own theme? instead of using just one type we get themes to mix it up a bit and make it more interesting
I personally would have a music themed gym for example. I guess my ace is Rillaboom since while I like singing more, the only one's I can think of are too girly for my tastes (and Meloetta is also a legendary) so the next best thing is drums. Thankfully Galar was really kind to rock and metal fans like myself though.
For the changes to Will's team, wouldn't changing the Slowbro and one of the other Kanto mons out for Slowking and Espeon make sense, giving more Johto mons?
Espeon should’ve been Will’s ace from the beginning. It’s so much better than Xatu. Yes, one of the Kimono Girls and Sabrina each use one, but make the former a post-game battle and replace the latter’s with a Girafarig for ghost immunity and that problem is solved.
@@jaretco6423 I think you can get Sneasel and Tryanitar's preevolution before reaching the elite four, but that is still located in Kanto so you're not wrong.
It would of if we replace Will’s Exeggutor with an Espeon, which something I would do. In fact replace the Slowbro with a Slowking and follow MandJTV and replace the other Xatu with a Graiffiarg and we got a perfect team for Will and a Jhoto Psychic gym leader.
21:07 Also the specialist should be Lillie since she has an Alolan Vulpix in Anime as well as getting the ice type z crystal and she already has the look so it's just too fitting
I would LOVE to see Michael make a video about the four "missing" Elite Four type specialists: there's never been an Elite Four specializing in Normal, Electric, Fairy, or Grass, and it'd be interesting to see him try to make that work.
Normal types for the most part are early game pokemon. They can good but most aren't up to the level of other elite 4 members. They also like electric only have 1 weakness so yeah.
@@RFDN0 Oh I understand the reasons behind it, I just figure it could make for an interesting video topic. I also understand why not Grass (WAY too many weaknesses) and Fairy (too new), but would still be fun to see what Michael could do with it.
If he were to do that, he should go beyond just the team roster. He should also include some basic design concept; doesn't even need to commision an artwork, just visualise it in some other way.
You always put so much more effort in your videos, than it is seems in the first place. This Video is a good example. Looking up all those compositions is so time consuming. Great work
There's more options for Kanto Gym Leaders, if you include cross gen evos. Dark - Umbreon Dragon - Kingdra Ghost - Annihilape Fairy - Sylveon Steel - Steelix, Scizor, Melmetal (Let's Go Kanto dex)
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I think Diggersby with Huge Power during an early gym would make a fantastic choice, it'll give the spike in difficulty like with Miltank from Gen 2. Getting absolutely clapped by Swords Dance boosted Returns, Quick Attacks and Bulldozes would be nice.
Also, Piers uses an Indimidate Scrafty in SWSH, so a gym leader using a Pokémon with a hidden ability actually isn’t unheard of anymore. Only thing is that if it’s an earlier gym leader, it might not have a full move set. I guess getting rid of Swords Dance would suffice due to the boost from Huge Power already and we’re talking about the early game.
There are actually specialists of Grass, Poison, Fairy, Bug and Ground in Hoenn of you count the Battle resort trainers in ORAS. Still agree with your selection and I liked the video. 😊
For a Kanto dark type leader you could use Johto pokemon too since Johto gym leaders already use mostly Kanto Pokemon and it's not unreasonable to think someone would pop over on the Goldenrod train to catch a quick Murkrow or something
I call dibs on being the fairy type gym leader in Sinnoh. I would dress similarly to Fantina but with pink and more princess like cause I love pokemon contests. I agree with the team though I would replace one of them (mainly Mr. Mine) with Chansey or Blissey cause I'm pretty sure its a fairy type, and its pre-evolution would of been introduced in Sinnoh.
@@taranoreilly5101 I preorder pokemon pearl, so I'm gonna attempt the same challenge that Mikey did with Pokemon Y, except I'm going to be his folly by being the first Fairy type Gym Leader. This does mean checking if this game lets me wear my contest outfit outside of contests (if not, then something fancy will do) because its both challenging and interesting. I will meet some hiccups like Bryson the Gym leader (and half of team Galaxy), but there's plenty of strong fairy types I can use now thanks to the new ace evolutions or pre-evolutions. And to keep up appearances, I'll attempt to get at least two of them be my contest aces.
@@robertlupa8273 odd, i just checked and apparently the writers of that episode were dumb. They saw that Chansey is part of the fairy egg group, and assumed it was fairy
I would love to see a video where you go through the generations and add a few new pokemon to round out the pokedexs. whether it would be evolution/pre olutions of previous mons or even new mons with new unique type combos
Remember your play through videos like “Can you beat Pokémon FireRed with only normal type moves” and “Can you beat Pokémon Platinum”? Do it again with “Can you beat Let’s go Pikachu with a team of field move users without them ever forgetting their field moves”, with Pikachu knowing Floaty Fall before Sky Dash and Splishy Splash before Sea Skim, a traded Farfetch’d with Cut before Chop Down, a traded Alakazam with Flash before Light Up and Teleport, a Machamp with Strength before Strong Push, a Pokémon that knows Dig like a Diglett, and a Chansey that knows Soft-Boiled, and when the field move counterpart is used, the corresponding Pokémon that knows it has to be following the player (Farfetch’d for Chop Down, Alakazam for Light Up and Pokémon center entry, Machamp for Strong Push, Diglett/Dugtrio for Escape Rope usage, and Chansey for potion and recovery usage).
That generation 1 normal gym looks like a nightmare to go up against. Chansey, TAUROS, Snorlax, and Kankasghan all on the same team? Hurts my soul to think about
I feel like the Gym Leaders having Pokemon not of their type makes sense (in some cases). It covers weaknesses or can throw challengers off (like Aaron's Drapion not being weak to Rock)
I agree. Like Raihan. He is a dragon specialist, but he uses ground types, because his ace (G-Max Duradulon) and other Dragon, Flygon, are both imune to Sandstorm, which is Raihan's strategy in his gym battle.
This is actually the first time I've ever heard of Ryuki. Never faced him when leveling up to complete the Pokedex. Funny how you learn something new every day.
Are you suggesting them based on generations rather than the regions? Because in gen 2, the only dark types added are either exclusively found in Kanto or evolve from a Kanto Pokémon. Houndour and Murkrow are both found between Saffron and Celadon. Sneasel is found on the way to Mt Silver (accessible only from Kanto). Umbreon evolves from Eevee. That's already 4 Pokémon without having to get Alolan variants of Kanto Pokémon
He isn’t talking about a Kantonian dark type gym leader in a Johto game. Witt the Alolan forms, he’s probably thinking more like how Mina is in Let’s Go as a fairy type specialist even though that type didn’t exist in Gen 1.
@@courage1363 yeah. That’s why he looked at dark types exclusively from the perspective of Let’s Go. If we went with the idea that it’s a Kanto dark type gym leader in the Johto games, it would just be the team he gave the Johto dark type gym leader.
@@robertlupa8273 Wouldn't it be hard to come up with teams like that for all of them though? After all, leaders are limited to the 'mons in the regional dex. They're also limited by level, so the early leaders especially are disadvantaged in terms of movesets. I think it'd be possible to arrange for the 8th leader of every region to follow a particular strat, maybe the 7th and 6th as well, but definitely not all of them
I personally love the idea of Themed teams and Non-Type Specialist Team For example, Weather Teams, Terrain Teams, Trick Room and Doubles would be nice. Though such strategies, would be difficult to implement for the earlier Gym Leaders as well as this possibly being to challening to new players, who would benefit from learning basic type advantages first, the hole reason why Type Specialist were created to begin with. This Idea would however be perfect for Spin-Off titles such as Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness as those were meant for more experienced Players and as a Spin-Off wouldn't really have any need to follow the norms of Mainstream games
I know making them more pure specialist is appealing to some but I actually like when Gym Leaders, Champions, and E4 have some diversity in line with a theme. not only does it make the fight harder (people who have swept certain monotype leaders even without setup can attest) it also makes their character more apparent. giving Steven fossils plus a Pokemon that would be super useful in excavation just makes sense and makes him a more full character. just my opinion, love this content (enough to watch pre-beard Mikey again)
Great video, the only criticism I have is having Froslass as a Pokemon for the Hoenn Ghost gym leader since Roserade was also mentioned in the same way but was not allowed since it came out in Sinnoh
Yup. Also, every fighting type specialist has used either a member of the Machamp or Lucario lines on one team or another (both in the case of Bruno’s HGSS rematch team).
@@jaretco6423 1) he said “almost.” 2) there is no ice specialist, but Faba is technically a psychic specialist. He just isn’t a Trial Captain, Kahuna or Elite 4 member.
Yorec. Ah. You're right. My bad. There's also that boy & girl from X & Y that made an return in Sun & Moon that u can battle. But there not technically an Gym ( or Kahuna ) or Elite Four member. And didn't Faba specialists Fairy types after dropping from Psychic types and was he an Gym Leader in Shield?
I feel like the Steel-type Kanto leader would use Steelix possibly, since it's the evolved form of a Kanto Pokemon. This could work for other leaders with the same problem too, like you did with Electric
7:53 Micheal: remove tyranatar and make macargo the ace Me : did you forget what happened when you used it in your team huh (HGSS without catching challenge)
I feel like you should redo this but allow previous stage evolutions for their Ace Pokemon - it just makes sense to me that they're training another "Ace" Pokemon, if possible. Like if a leader has a Gardevoir, then having a Kirlia open the battle just makes sense to me. It helps reduce repeats significantly. EDIT I also don't like the "Highest BST is the Ace" rule - I feel like a Pokemon like Seviper fits the "Ace" role way more than Swalot
Given how loose Kanto can be with typeing, I think for this type of thing you should just fudge it a little bit and pick "related' types to fill out the ranks. or assume they are a mid game gym leader with and don't have 5 pokemon so you can get away with Yes a mid game gym with Wigglytuff, Clefable, Mr Mime seems pretty tough!
Yes the Kanto Fairy gym leader would work 4th to 5th Gym better then 8th. But I could replace the Fairy repeats with Fairy like Pokémon like Kanto Ninetales and Raichu. (But maybe we should just stick to the repeat team)
@@ethantreadway9478 Well at least Pokemon in the Fairy Egg group in my opinion, like Raichu and Chansey, just like how Lance uses Pokemon of the Dragon Egg Group with Aerodactyl, Charizard and Gyarados or how Bugsy uses Drapion which is part of the Bug Egg Group
@@matheussandbakk9959 Chansey is fine, but I wouldn’t give them Raichu since that’s Lt. Surge’s ace. Either a second Wigglytuff or maybe even a Clefairy works better.
I think it's mentioned a few times in the anime that there are many more gyms then the ones you see, possibly for every type or possibly just for every good trainer. (like it's said that Cilan and his brothers started their own gym, not that he took over the grass gym of the previous gym leader, so there could be like 20 diffrent grass gyms)
Gary in season 1 has 10 badges and 7 or 8 of them are from gyms we never see in the game. So that's 15 or 16 gyms by itself (the 8 Ash has plus the 7 or 8 mystery ones), so for gen 1 there HAD to be at least two gyms that were the same type. Ash also encounters one individual and two groups of people trying to start their own gym (implicitly: ground, bug, and electric). And obviously the games CAN'T be the 100% accurate representation of how the regional really is. Nobody sleeps. Nobody has a toilet. There are huge mystery areas that are completely blocked by 4 foot tall rocks. It makes sense that there are other gym leaders. Especially if you think about how many trainers there were at the League at the end of the first season, knowing that you have just under a year to gather all the badges to qualify, there'd HAVE to be more than 8 gyms or else they'd be constantly busy.
Kanto does have dark types, in one of the most wtf moves in Pokemon history Murkrow and Hondour could exclusively be found in Kanto in their debut generation!
I think he should do a video ranking every regions gym leaders by how strong they are in world. For example, for Kanto, the strongest would probably be Koga because he eventually joined the elite four.
In terms of rank the winner is a tie between Iris and Wallace, they did the exact same jump from Gym Leader to Champion...however I'd give it to Iris because she explicitly defeated Alder, and it's unknown if Wallace actually beat Steven, Delta Episode's ending implies he didn't. Also, Iris' Challenge Mode rematch is the third-strongest Trainer IN THE SERIES, and has the exact same average level as the second (Platinum Barry). And I'm 99% sure she'd beat Barry, his team sucks against Dragons. Even HGSS Red would struggle against her in all honesty, Hydreigon and Haxorus both probably one-shot most of them.
@@ethantreadway9478 I think that's the point he's making though. The fact Koga was able to join the Elite Four means he's likely stronger than the other Gym Leaders.
21:35 I'm surprised you haven't done a "Pokemon Sword/Shield but I am an Electric Gym Leader" yet. I guess I'll be adding that to my list of video suggestions along with full teams for all of Ash's traveling companions/classmates. (which would be a decent way to send off Ash after he wins the world tournament and leaves the Anime)
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1:10 you could have included mega gyarados
Fun fact: Kanto already had a Fighting type specialist. He is a former gym leader in Saffron. His gym is now literally a gym. He is the one who gives you either of the two Gen1 Hitmon's.
Oh yeah, the Fighting Dojo, right?
@@unitds27-delta yes
Yeah didn’t Sabrina kick his ass and take his position as the Saffron City Gym Leader.
@@cobaltprime9467 well duh, he was a fighting type specialist and sabrina uses psychic type
@@starlight0313 I mean...you are not wrong. But also, Sabrina could handily beat every other gym leader in Kanto and at least half the Elite Four. So, isn't as if she doesn't deserve the gym.
Having a Ground type Kalos Gylm Leader found early in the game with Diggersby as their ace only to show up later in a theoretical "challenge mode" where their ace turns into mega Garchmop would have been amazing/hilarious
Their Diggersby would literally have to have Huge Power to be challenging.
@@ethantreadway9478 "Kalos", "Challenging"
@@ethantreadway9478 Choice Band Huge Power Diggersby would catch more than one player off guard
As far as earlygame rodents go, diggersby is actually pretty buff. I think it could present a decent challenge if fought early enough.
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One change I’d make for the flying gym leader for Kanto: I’d make the ace Dodrio. It’s BST may be lower than Pidgeot’s, but it’s speed and attack are higher in every Kanto game and it gets Drill Peck unlike Pidgeot, which is objectively the best flying move until Gen 4.
Good thinking also no flying type trainer has had a dodrio as an ace
@@RodimusMinor1987 thank you. Now that I think about it; the only major flying type specialist who even uses a Dodrio is Falkner in his Johto Leaders Tournament team. Winona, Skyla and Kahili all ignore it.
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Also Falkner used one in the anime against Ash which was kind of unfair but as Ash had is kanto pokèmon Falkner used his strongest team
@@RodimusMinor1987 I was just talking games. If we’re bringing the anime up, Gary had one.
And Tri Attack would serve it well on Gen I or III teams.
it’s so cool how all of mikey’s sponsors are EXACTLY what grunty boy needs in that moment
It's so convenient!
It’s almost like he plans them because he knows………………….
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He needs to do one where it doesn't just to throw everyone off
Someone play that clip of bulbasuar telling squirtle he is getting to close to the fourth wall
Mikey: i know that Shedinja has 1 Hp, but who cares for a Gym leader?
Bugsy in HG/SS: *Has a Shedinja in the Rematch*
In Falkner’s defense, hes often depicted with Skarmory as his ace. Just outside of the realm of the games.
His ace as 1st gym leader should be HootHoot however.
@@ethantreadway9478 I could see that
He has a dodrio and a hoothoot in the anime
@@ethantreadway9478 actually in the video mentioned, im pretty sure michael uses hoothoot and murkrow as falkners team
He should’ve had an actual Skarmory in the games. It would’ve helped to give more Johto Pokémon to Johto leaders, and it would actually give Skarmory to a prominent trainer
Imagine a Pokémon game where every type has a leader and you just get to choose. Once ya get through 8 you can access the league, but completionist can feel good about fighting all 18.
I like the idea of, even if still linear, having 14 Gyms alongside the Elite Four, with the parts of the region you explore being different based on the version you play and then the 6 you didn't fight before the League being postgame (and/or having the antagonists interrupt the Champion battle for a longer main game).
One of the shared gyms between versions could be in the main hub city of the region and be fought at the same point in the journey (we'll say 5th Gym, and be a similar test of skill turning point to the Gen 3 Norman encounter, where you go through the city early-ish on but have to wait to fight it). The other shared gym could be an early town/Gym in one version and a later visited town/Gym in the other.
*cough* The Johto games.
you might like the gbc romhack crystal clear, its an openworld game based on crystal, you can start from any city and the trainers/gyms scale with how many badges you have. its not all 18 types, but since its gen 2 only dark is missing
@Samoht Still Lives!!!! Best of the best are the champions, so it makes sense for them to be the only ones with no restrictions on their team. I think E4 are fine being type-locked, with just having better pokemon, better counters to super effective types, better AI, etc. than gym leaders
I'm making a home made region with a similar system
Make a “Fixing every major Pokémon trainers Pokémon move sets” like Blues, Opals and others
Yes needs to happen
Also he is running out of vid ideas
Ah yes leech seed exeggutor
@TheAce he didn’t fix their move sets. Opals weezing knows tackle. It’s the 5th gym.
It's others not orthers
@@reddoraemon8404 Wow. I didn’t know.
18:53 I have a confession, I thought pyroar was a dark fire type until the video made me look it up for affirmation. It made a lot of sense in my mind; it used dark type moves like dark pulse and snarl often, it’s quite intimidating (pretty sure it has that for an ability), and was weak to my Lucario’s aura spheres.
18:56 never understood this quote.
It's normal type because Normal is associated with mammalian Pokemon and has been since Eevee, and you can't get much more mammalian than a lion.
I like that its fire bcs its the only fire normal pokemon and i want to see all pokemon type combos used one day
It is also a Pokemon used by Malva and isn't she associated with Team Flare?
I can see the thought process that it is dark type when the Pokemon evil teams usually use them. And Lysander too!
Edit: edited because I made this comment before finishing the video because I am one of those dumbasses.
@@princeapoopoo5787 Isn’t Malva an Elite 4 member? I’m pretty sure she isn’t evil
Me wanting to do a monotype run: "Jee idk what pokemon to use, and I don't want to research"
Mikey: "I Got you fam"
So what type did you choose or its just a joke
@@afriendlycampfire260 I've actually wanted to try one, and it'll probably be an ice one I think. Although, now I'm getting a sense of "wow now I have all these options" 😂
@@huntertausch1909 You could use one of the starter types so you don’t have to remove your starter from the team.
@@tiorayuki3196 shut
@@tiorayuki3196 the
I came up with a story for chuck: Chuck was Brunos apprentice, and as he went off into the real world, Bruno gave Chuck his Poliwrath and Primeape. Chuck became a gym leader and he only used the Pokemon that Bruno gave him, as he had an attachment to them.
i think that somewhere in canon,chuck is brawly master. but bruno being chucks master is very interesting
considering chuck looks older than bruno, maybe it was the reverse? with chuck giving bruno the 3 fighting types he uses.
I love this
Yeah, Bruno couldn't find any replacement fighting pokemon fast enough and decided onix would have to suffice for the time being.
ye but chuck is literally older than bruno lol, plus he already had a story. he is the practice partner of falkner's dad, the former flying type gym leader in johto
I like the concept of having Gengar for poison instead of ghost. Gengar is usually known for ghost but using it for poison can give other pokemon some time to shine
Theory: Michael likes interacting with grunty boi. I mean why doesn’t Mikey call the cops on him? Because he likes having interactions with him.
grunty boi clearly his long last twin brother grunty boi Clearly lost his memories during one of his early missions with team rocket.
Grunty boi is now just Michael's annoying younger brother
pog
another theory is that grunty boi ties mikey to his chair, like he never stands up in the sponsorship portions of the video
Michael is tsundere
I would love to see Mike design a series of gyms that specialize in Stats rather than Types.
So like the stat trainers from Sinnoh?
@@robertlupa8273 Exactly, but using a broader selection of Pokemon. It has been a while since Sinnoh.
Or using a theme a bit like Raihan with his weather/sandstorm team.
@@HTheHunter 8 gym leaders. 4 weathers, 4 terrains. could happen and it would make an interesting challenge
@@MrcreeperDXD777 except those apply to types, so it would be more limited
I think Houndour can work for Kanto as well for the Dark Gym Leader, cuz you actually can only find it in Kanto in the Johto games.
The reason Pyroar is part Normal, is because its associated with Sound based moves (Hyper Voice, Noble Roar) and the like.
I honestly want a Pokemon game where there is a gym leader for every type and you have to collect at least half of the badges to get into the main tournament or something. Upon winning that, the post-game would be collecting the latter half.
reborn has all 18 types gymleaders but ou have to beat em all to get to league. or maybe not, the game isn't really finished yet
@@User-wt8gd There are 17 in the game so far; the only one that has yet to be added is Dragon. I've played Reborn; it's a great game, but it's super long and super hard. Also, people die in it.
EDIT: Reborn's "sequel," Pokémon Rejuvenation, also has 18 gyms, though only 15 are in the game. There is a Dark leader, a Fairy leader, and a Dragon leader, but in the current build, you never battle them.
I would add that you can collect more badges before the first E4 attempt, but the difficulty of the E4 scales up with each additional badge attained.
many people dont like the monotype act for every gym leader, and having 18 in a videogame would be a big problem, also boring with just a fighting type you can sweep 5 gym leaders, no thanks
Also whats left for the Elite four???
@@artist0154 That's an understandable criticism, though ideally the game designers would take that into account to balance things out.
As for the E4, instead of being type masters they could be strategy masters using Pokémon of all types. For instance, one could be all about having tanky Pokémon, one could be about hitting hard and fast, one could be about throwing around status, and one could be a baton passer.
There are bound to be potential issues with this as well, but it is a way for the E4 to exist despite all types being used up in the gyms. If anything, I personally would enjoy trying a game with all the types having their own gym as a shake up to the traditional 8-gyms-in-a-given-order style we are used to, despite flaws like the fighting type sweep you mentioned.
it's pretty much confirmed this is the case considering some of Ash's rivals have some unrecognisable badges
@@tiorayuki3196 i want da smoke, gimme da smoke.
I think it would have been a really interesting idea if this Hoenn Gym Leader's ace was different depending on your version, since Seedot and Lotad are version exclusives and the lines are direct counterparts of each other. They could use the fully evolved stage you can't get in your version: Ludicolo in Ruby, Shiftry in Sapphire and Emerald. They'd both be on the team regardless but the one that the player can't normally find is given that ace position.
Lots of gyms could probably use this idea, another one I am thinking of is blaine. In kanto games (more specifically the one's where starter isn't eevee/pikachu) he doesn't use ninetales or vulpix in his team, but he uses arcanine as his ace. I think it would yhave been cool if it was swapped with ninetales if you were playing red/firered.
Gen 3 has a looooot ov version exclusive or duos
(forgive my spellings XD)
Loatad and seedot
Plusal and minun
Solrock and lunatone
Zangoose and svriper
Volbeet and ilumise
Bagon and belldum
Wingull and swolow
Zigzagoon and poochiena
Huntail and gorabis
Feebas and magicarp
The fossils
(in oras)
Gardevoir and gallade
Glalie and frostlass
Poor dark types, so under represented. Good thing we have Mikey to help correct this grievous error!
It's what Karen has always been trying to do
I love that Grunty Boi breaks into Michael's house whenever he needs something minor, like a phone case.
I like to think that they're roommates
@@rainydaze3589 but mikey is unaware of this fact
@@rainydaze3589 Oh my god, they were roommates :0
My favorite part of this bit of the video was Grunty Boi pulling a Private Donut.
I actually really like the thought of an early ground-type gym leader having diggersby as their ace
It's the Kalos region's equivalent of raticate or bibarel, and it can allow the gym-slash-gym leader to have a construction or excavation theme
Can we just give Michael major kudos for showing love to lesser known Trainer sprites, like the Bug Catcher?
But then when he inevitably changes the thumbnail, it’ll be something completely different.
@@michaelnelson1127 I hate that too, especially if the new thumbnail has that terrifying Mikey face. You kniw the one.
th-cam.com/users/shorts_SfSxY8vQVk?feature=share
Not lesser known, but lesser appreciated.
I quite like the use of eeveelutions. More gym leaders should run them imo
There should be an eevee themed gym
@@cyberwarrior5939 YES
@@cyberwarrior5939 the ace should of the Gym Leader is G-Max Eevee.
Maybe in scarlet violet if they add another Eeveelution each gym Can have one.
honestly just buff the eveelutionas not alot just enough to make the bad ones decent and the good ones even more usuable
i’m glad they finally had a game with a specialist for every type
?
@@catsarecoolio15Scarlet/Violet iirc
Scarlet and Violet. There where type specialists for 17 of the 18 types. 8 Gym leaders, 5 Team Star leaders and the Elite 4. Only Rock didn't get a specialist in Gen. 9@@catsarecoolio15
@@catsarecoolio15Gen 9
And then rock…
Alternative title: "Mikey makes Dark Type Gym leaders for every generation"
except gen 8.
@@awesomenate3058 yup
@@awesomenate3058 And gen 7
Ground types too lol. Plus a lot of the evil teams seem to cover dark pretty well.
So true
For the Kanto dark gym, seeing as Alolan forms are being brought in, I feel like it might as well have used some Johto Pokémon like Murkrow, who is technically a Kanto Pokémon anyway, seeing as it can only be found in Kanto in the gen 2 games
My thoughts exactly.
Yeah, I think all the Dark types of Gen 2 can only be found in Kanto, with the exception of Tyranitar, which is in Mt. Silver which is the border between Kanto and Johto. Though i understand why he doesn't use them as they're not Gen 1 Pokemon like the Alola Forms are (Well technically just regional forms of Gen 1 Pokemon, but same thing in my opinion). Though I believe he could have used a Gyarados as well as it's the last Gen 1 Pokemon that isn't Galarian Moltres, with the ability to gain the Dark Type at least
Edit: Forgot Umbreon which is accessible in Johto, as well as Sneasel, though that Pokemon is only accesible in Johto by Ice Path of Crystal Version, no other version and Kanto and Mt. Silver in every version so
I think the issue is they started appearing in kanto like maybe 3 years after the original kanto story.
Assuming that dex order is the discovery order, there were more than 40 mons before they discovered murkrow.
@@---oq5kb although discovery order isnt canon because the starters are never native species to the region except some particularly rare ones like Rillaboom is from Galar.
Especially piplup, which should be native to Kalos, not Sinnoh despite what legends says
"Why is it normal fire?" because it's based on the legend of the Nemean, one of HErcules' targets. So they wanted it weak to fighting.
It coulda been dark/fire and they would’ve gotten the same result
@@DG_Totibut dark is supposedly the "evil" type and nothing about Pyroar says it's evil (other than being used by Lysandre)
Missing Gym Leaders, huh? That's an interesting idea, I'm surprised it hasn't seen wider recognition before now...
Right!? Gee I wonder if some other awesome youtuber thought of it first.
Ps. Emperor Cubone, your videos are awesome just saying.
I saw the title of this video and immediately thought that “hmm, didn’t Emperor Cubone literally do the exact same thing?”
Omg emperor cunone?
Hmm wonder who else did something like this
This is exactly the content i wish there was more of on TH-cam
For gym leaders who have to have repeats, it would be cool if they had the same pokemon but with drastically different stats, moves, abilities etc. For example, a 3 Genger team could have a bulky counter, so assualt vest set with focus blast, dark pulse, and ice beam, a hyper offensive one with say nasty plot and 3 attacking move/choice specs/choice scars set, and a status spreader. Could be interesting.
Agreed. The great part about Pokemon is how diverse you can make a team, even a team with repeats because of different moves, abilities, and so on can make it unique and good.
I just had an idea for a couple of future videos. The first one would be ‘How hard is it to complete the regional Pokédex in each [set of] game[s]?’, then later down the line would be ‘Can you complete the national Pokédex (if it’s an option) within a generation?’
This man makes sponsors actually interesting AND funny with Grunty Boi. I applaud.
7:36 dude, he also has a slowbro instead of _slowking_ which was literally the slowpoke evolution introduced in johto. I also understand not giving him alakazam since that was sabrina's ace, but why not an espeon? You could say that one of the kimono sisters had an espeon but they gave karen an umbreon.
I agree
it makes sense that almost every type in Alola has a specialist because of the Z-moves gimmick. never thought of that.
Also makes sense as to why it is one of the only Z-crystals you get as an over-world item, along with Dragon and Flying.
@@katherinegarlock2249
*Psychic and Flying
Dragon is from a Trial.
I think a cool video idea would be looking at inconsistencies/contradictions in Pokédex entries, like how a lot of drapion’s entries contradict themselves
That’s why my entries try to stay as true to gameplay as possible
22:06 well actually now Hop's G-max is the Starter he picked once you've finished the dlc and did the star tournament so yeah. This is up for grabs.
The steel type Kanto gym leader could also technically have Galarian Mouth/Perrserker, but the same problem exists without that
It 0% possible because Perrserker is not in Let’s Go.
@@ethantreadway9478 Let's go Kanto, but if a Let's Go Jotho is made...
@@omarmendez0402 the Johto games already have Jasmine for steel types. They don’t need a fifth type specialist overlap (dragon, fighting, poison and psychic are each represented by two major trainers in the Johto games).
Anyone wanna point out how he misspelt Meowth?
@@ethantreadway9478 you are looking at it from the players perspective. In-universe they can just import more pokemon to kanto.
6:16 Theory: Whitney would've been a Fairy-type Gym Leader had the type been introduced back then. Her ace would've been an underleveled Granbull, with Clefairy being her starting member. The theory is due to 1: she's childish, and 2: she acts cutsey. Also 3: She would totally give out a TM for Charm or Draining Kiss. They fit her almost as much as Attract did.
Galaxy brain: Miltank should have been a fairy-type.
@@qty1315 ..its a c o w
@@iffatmansoor5589 I'm pretty sure they could have found lore from around the world to justify Miltank being a Fairy type.
Like the Fairy cattle from Scottish folktales such as the White Fairy Cow of Calanais
@@iffatmansoor5589 So? Pikachu is a m o u s e.
@@qty1315 Not every pink pokemon needs to become a Fairy type, you know
18:56 The Pyroar evo. line is part Normal because other fire type Pokémon have fire powers within them while Pyroar can just breath fire and is also a normal animal
It sure is convenient that whenever Grunty Boi shows up, Mike has a sponsor just for his problem
That's kinda Sus
Bruno's non-fighting choices are very onix-ceptable.
😐
👍
And he still had one in the Johto games even though no one was using Heracross and he ended up using a Heracross in the FRLG post game anyway. The fact that it actually would’ve given him some good coverage for psychic types makes it even more aggravating.
I get it
*PUN ALERT!*
Actually, a Kanto dark gym is possible without making them exchange. Because in GSC, certain dark types like Murkrow and Houndour, despite being introduced in the *Johto* games can only be found in Kanto, thereby making those Pokémon native to Kanto and not Johto. They would definitely need to be an earlier gym if those were their only Pokémon, but it's not unheard of for gen 1 trainers to have multiple of the same pokemon.
here's an idea for ya Mikey, how about If every gym leader had their own theme? instead of using just one type we get themes to mix it up a bit and make it more interesting
yeah thats a really cool idea!!! like Koga with ninja pokemon or Misty with "cute swimmers"
@@artist0154 If I was a gym leader, I'd honestly consider just type coverage in general, never liked the whole "entire team is one type" shtick
I personally would have a music themed gym for example. I guess my ace is Rillaboom since while I like singing more, the only one's I can think of are too girly for my tastes (and Meloetta is also a legendary) so the next best thing is drums. Thankfully Galar was really kind to rock and metal fans like myself though.
For the changes to Will's team, wouldn't changing the Slowbro and one of the other Kanto mons out for Slowking and Espeon make sense, giving more Johto mons?
Espeon should’ve been Will’s ace from the beginning. It’s so much better than Xatu. Yes, one of the Kimono Girls and Sabrina each use one, but make the former a post-game battle and replace the latter’s with a Girafarig for ghost immunity and that problem is solved.
Replace Slowbro, Exeggutor and one of his Xatu with Slowking, Girafarig and Espeon (Jynx kind of makes sense because of Smoochum)
You know snorlax is good when in all the normal type gyms he’s either the ace or the second best
Hoennian Snorlax though?
5:33 - 5:45 this right here is why there should've been a Dark Type gym leader for the final badge in Johto, instead of the Very limited Dragon type!
If only Johto had any Dark type. The only one that can be accessible is Umbreon.
@@jaretco6423 I think you can get Sneasel and Tryanitar's preevolution before reaching the elite four, but that is still located in Kanto so you're not wrong.
@@TheSpectator7 Murkrow too, but hey gym leaders are cheaters sometimes they have postgame pokemon, or evolutions underlevel
@@artist0154 Karen's team includes Murkrow and Houndoom despite them being in Kanto, so that's already a true fact.
Well if we apply Claire’s levels we would use the same dark team but swap Tryanitar for like a second Murkrow.
The psychic leader in Johto should have a Espeon imo
It would of if we replace Will’s Exeggutor with an Espeon, which something I would do.
In fact replace the Slowbro with a Slowking and follow MandJTV and replace the other Xatu with a Graiffiarg and we got a perfect team for Will and a Jhoto Psychic gym leader.
21:07 Also the specialist should be Lillie since she has an Alolan Vulpix in Anime as well as getting the ice type z crystal and she already has the look so it's just too fitting
THERE SHOULD BE 2 L'S IN ALOLAN!
@@Amelia4111 Thanks for the correction
I would LOVE to see Michael make a video about the four "missing" Elite Four type specialists: there's never been an Elite Four specializing in Normal, Electric, Fairy, or Grass, and it'd be interesting to see him try to make that work.
Normal types for the most part are early game pokemon. They can good but most aren't up to the level of other elite 4 members. They also like electric only have 1 weakness so yeah.
@@RFDN0 Oh I understand the reasons behind it, I just figure it could make for an interesting video topic. I also understand why not Grass (WAY too many weaknesses) and Fairy (too new), but would still be fun to see what Michael could do with it.
If he were to do that, he should go beyond just the team roster. He should also include some basic design concept; doesn't even need to commision an artwork, just visualise it in some other way.
You always put so much more effort in your videos, than it is seems in the first place. This Video is a good example. Looking up all those compositions is so time consuming. Great work
There's more options for Kanto Gym Leaders, if you include cross gen evos.
Dark - Umbreon
Dragon - Kingdra
Ghost - Annihilape
Fairy - Sylveon
Steel - Steelix, Scizor, Melmetal (Let's Go Kanto dex)
Grunty Boi is me honestly lol.
"Oh wow look at all these cool things. Oh you my dear friend have them? Well.....DON'T MIND IF I DO."
AISURU.TOKYO/angelina 💞
( ˘ ³˘)👙 18 years and over
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@@tiorayuki3196 this isn’t funny. No one cares about you bot
20:57 i think Lillie would be perfect for a ice specialist
Her outfit matches ice too
Just wanted to stay, your videos help me out a lot when I am in bad mental places. Pokémon has always been a good place for me and your videos are always both informative and interesting to watch so I do want to say thank you.
I think Diggersby with Huge Power during an early gym would make a fantastic choice, it'll give the spike in difficulty like with Miltank from Gen 2.
Getting absolutely clapped by Swords Dance boosted Returns, Quick Attacks and Bulldozes would be nice.
Also, Piers uses an Indimidate Scrafty in SWSH, so a gym leader using a Pokémon with a hidden ability actually isn’t unheard of anymore. Only thing is that if it’s an earlier gym leader, it might not have a full move set. I guess getting rid of Swords Dance would suffice due to the boost from Huge Power already and we’re talking about the early game.
Was that phone cover joke about pink being "light red" a reference to RvB? That's a classic joke
Most people would skip sponsors except Mikey’s because they are hilarious
Well, I'm not most people. I'm probably missing some beautiful (and hilarious) work of art, but I always skip Grunty Boi.
There are actually specialists of Grass, Poison, Fairy, Bug and Ground in Hoenn of you count the Battle resort trainers in ORAS. Still agree with your selection and I liked the video. 😊
For a Kanto dark type leader you could use Johto pokemon too since Johto gym leaders already use mostly Kanto Pokemon and it's not unreasonable to think someone would pop over on the Goldenrod train to catch a quick Murkrow or something
The "greetings pokefans, michael here..." Never gets old.
Greetings boogie fans
I call dibs on being the fairy type gym leader in Sinnoh. I would dress similarly to Fantina but with pink and more princess like cause I love pokemon contests. I agree with the team though I would replace one of them (mainly Mr. Mine) with Chansey or Blissey cause I'm pretty sure its a fairy type, and its pre-evolution would of been introduced in Sinnoh.
This was my first thought. No Blissey?
@@taranoreilly5101 I preorder pokemon pearl, so I'm gonna attempt the same challenge that Mikey did with Pokemon Y, except I'm going to be his folly by being the first Fairy type Gym Leader. This does mean checking if this game lets me wear my contest outfit outside of contests (if not, then something fancy will do) because its both challenging and interesting. I will meet some hiccups like Bryson the Gym leader (and half of team Galaxy), but there's plenty of strong fairy types I can use now thanks to the new ace evolutions or pre-evolutions. And to keep up appearances, I'll attempt to get at least two of them be my contest aces.
Chansey isn't a Fairy type, but it totally should've been.
@@robertlupa8273 wasn't there a Pokémon X and Y episode, where Nurse Joy's Chancey used its Fairy typing to fight against a situation?
@@robertlupa8273 odd, i just checked and apparently the writers of that episode were dumb. They saw that Chansey is part of the fairy egg group, and assumed it was fairy
14:13 i'd modify that to be audino as the ace since audino has a mega form (i may seem dumb but michael also said it)
Megas don't exist in gen 5
I would love to see a video where you go through the generations and add a few new pokemon to round out the pokedexs. whether it would be evolution/pre olutions of previous mons or even new mons with new unique type combos
Remember your play through videos like “Can you beat Pokémon FireRed with only normal type moves” and “Can you beat Pokémon Platinum”? Do it again with “Can you beat Let’s go Pikachu with a team of field move users without them ever forgetting their field moves”, with Pikachu knowing Floaty Fall before Sky Dash and Splishy Splash before Sea Skim, a traded Farfetch’d with Cut before Chop Down, a traded Alakazam with Flash before Light Up and Teleport, a Machamp with Strength before Strong Push, a Pokémon that knows Dig like a Diglett, and a Chansey that knows Soft-Boiled, and when the field move counterpart is used, the corresponding Pokémon that knows it has to be following the player (Farfetch’d for Chop Down, Alakazam for Light Up and Pokémon center entry, Machamp for Strong Push, Diglett/Dugtrio for Escape Rope usage, and Chansey for potion and recovery usage).
That generation 1 normal gym looks like a nightmare to go up against. Chansey, TAUROS, Snorlax, and Kankasghan all on the same team? Hurts my soul to think about
19:13 ah yes the only poison type mega evolution, definitely no others that exist. *sad mega venusaur noises in the distance*
He don't like to give starter to gym leader
That’s not the point of it… my point is that gengar isn’t the only poison type mega
@@ganeshsolanki8803 you are right
@@ganeshsolanki8803yeah but he should have said only non starter xy poison mega
I feel like the Gym Leaders having Pokemon not of their type makes sense (in some cases). It covers weaknesses or can throw challengers off (like Aaron's Drapion not being weak to Rock)
I agree. Like Raihan. He is a dragon specialist, but he uses ground types, because his ace (G-Max Duradulon) and other Dragon, Flygon, are both imune to Sandstorm, which is Raihan's strategy in his gym battle.
Octillery in Volkner's gym for coverage against ground type pokemon
But drapion looks like bug type and its evolved from bug type not because it cover weakness
Octillery on the other look like electric type?
This is actually the first time I've ever heard of Ryuki. Never faced him when leveling up to complete the Pokedex. Funny how you learn something new every day.
You fight him in the Title Defender Challenges.
heck, I learned that Aggron wasn't a pseudo
Imagine having a friend so loyal he'd visit you almost every day, like Grunty Boi does for Michael.
“Thanks, I hate it.”
Would make a great meme format on ASPITAPY.
Are you suggesting them based on generations rather than the regions?
Because in gen 2, the only dark types added are either exclusively found in Kanto or evolve from a Kanto Pokémon.
Houndour and Murkrow are both found between Saffron and Celadon. Sneasel is found on the way to Mt Silver (accessible only from Kanto). Umbreon evolves from Eevee. That's already 4 Pokémon without having to get Alolan variants of Kanto Pokémon
He isn’t talking about a Kantonian dark type gym leader in a Johto game. Witt the Alolan forms, he’s probably thinking more like how Mina is in Let’s Go as a fairy type specialist even though that type didn’t exist in Gen 1.
@@yorecf9641 But the issue is the LACK of types that are not available.
@@courage1363 yeah. That’s why he looked at dark types exclusively from the perspective of Let’s Go. If we went with the idea that it’s a Kanto dark type gym leader in the Johto games, it would just be the team he gave the Johto dark type gym leader.
No he is talking about generation That's why dark type gym leader had varients cause in gen 1 red blue and yellow there was no dark type
I think it would be cool to have gym leaders that specialize in 2 types, to cover there weakness
Would love to see a "what if gyms weren't type based" for each region, using common competitive tactics
That would be a nightmare.
@@captaindoesyoutube7925 I mean, we've already had Raihan and his Sandstorm team, and he was perfectly managable.
yes. mikey pls notice this comment
@@robertlupa8273 Wouldn't it be hard to come up with teams like that for all of them though? After all, leaders are limited to the 'mons in the regional dex. They're also limited by level, so the early leaders especially are disadvantaged in terms of movesets. I think it'd be possible to arrange for the 8th leader of every region to follow a particular strat, maybe the 7th and 6th as well, but definitely not all of them
I personally love the idea of Themed teams and Non-Type Specialist Team
For example, Weather Teams, Terrain Teams, Trick Room and Doubles would be nice. Though such strategies, would be difficult to implement for the earlier Gym Leaders as well as this possibly being to challening to new players, who would benefit from learning basic type advantages first, the hole reason why Type Specialist were created to begin with. This Idea would however be perfect for Spin-Off titles such as Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness as those were meant for more experienced Players and as a Spin-Off wouldn't really have any need to follow the norms of Mainstream games
5:04 Christ alive, that gym sounds like an absolute nightmare if we use Gen 1 mechanics.
5:23 yeah but Dodrio has the best stat distribution. Also you could’ve done Aerodactyl or Gyrados
he has discussed vry often how he doesn't like how gyarados should not have been flying type, and pidgeot is the most iconic flying type of kanto.
@@staarfall5317 well maybe Pidgeot wouldn’t have been as iconic had they not given it to every trainer
I wanna see Grunty Boy meet John and Jack one day and there hilarious reactions to him
It would be funny if runt boy was just in his head and no one else can see him
@@stephanlewis7231 yeah maybe
I want to see Jack roast Grunty Boi. That'd be funny.
@@robertlupa8273 exactly!
1:11 Two years late, i know. But i think a houndoom would be a good option, since it's only available in Kanto in Gen 2 games
That Sinnoh Dragon team was so bad I'm now genuinly suprised it WASN'T an actual Sinnoh gym team!
That means Cynthia is not going to have a good time if she was a gym leader.
12:15 One stray Thunder and Blizzard and this team is toast.
I know making them more pure specialist is appealing to some but I actually like when Gym Leaders, Champions, and E4 have some diversity in line with a theme.
not only does it make the fight harder (people who have swept certain monotype leaders even without setup can attest) it also makes their character more apparent. giving Steven fossils plus a Pokemon that would be super useful in excavation just makes sense and makes him a more full character.
just my opinion, love this content (enough to watch pre-beard Mikey again)
Great video, the only criticism I have is having Froslass as a Pokemon for the Hoenn Ghost gym leader since Roserade was also mentioned in the same way but was not allowed since it came out in Sinnoh
Unless you're playing ORAS. But than again, do we care?
But roserade was already an ace of gardenia shiftry is not ace of any
I just realized Fighting type is the only type that has been through every gen. It hasn't been absent like once.
Yup. Also, every fighting type specialist has used either a member of the Machamp or Lucario lines on one team or another (both in the case of Bruno’s HGSS rematch team).
Psychic and almost Ice are that too.
Ethan. I don't remember the Psychic & Ice type specialist in Alola.
@@jaretco6423 1) he said “almost.”
2) there is no ice specialist, but Faba is technically a psychic specialist. He just isn’t a Trial Captain, Kahuna or Elite 4 member.
Yorec. Ah. You're right. My bad. There's also that boy & girl from X & Y that made an return in Sun & Moon that u can battle. But there not technically an Gym ( or Kahuna ) or Elite Four member. And didn't Faba specialists Fairy types after dropping from Psychic types and was he an Gym Leader in Shield?
“I think it’s would be cool if a non-rock type gym leader would have a prehistoric Pokémon”
*Diantha’s Tyrantrum would like to know your location*
Steven, N and Iris: are we also jokes to you?
Having a gym leader that solely uses alolan forms seems really cool
I love how Mikey deliberately gives a Meme template version at the start so that his Subreddit has memes that are Technically related to him.
"Meme template"?
I feel like the Steel-type Kanto leader would use Steelix possibly, since it's the evolved form of a Kanto Pokemon. This could work for other leaders with the same problem too, like you did with Electric
7:53 Micheal: remove tyranatar and make macargo the ace
Me : did you forget what happened when you used it in your team huh (HGSS without catching challenge)
He made a mistake he said gigalith BST is higher than archeops BST 14:44 (oh i forgot about defetus)
RIP Emperors Cubone not gonna even recognize he did this months before this
Yeah, honestly that stings a little...
@@emperorcubone Don't worry, your series is good too. I like how you sometimes pick anime-exclusive locations for your gyms.
I feel like you should redo this but allow previous stage evolutions for their Ace Pokemon - it just makes sense to me that they're training another "Ace" Pokemon, if possible. Like if a leader has a Gardevoir, then having a Kirlia open the battle just makes sense to me. It helps reduce repeats significantly. EDIT I also don't like the "Highest BST is the Ace" rule - I feel like a Pokemon like Seviper fits the "Ace" role way more than Swalot
Fun Fact: "Two Gyaradoses" are actually called "Gyaracuatro""
Given how loose Kanto can be with typeing, I think for this type of thing you should just fudge it a little bit and pick "related' types to fill out the ranks.
or assume they are a mid game gym leader with and don't have 5 pokemon so you can get away with
Yes a mid game gym with Wigglytuff, Clefable, Mr Mime seems pretty tough!
Yes the Kanto Fairy gym leader would work 4th to 5th Gym better then 8th.
But I could replace the Fairy repeats with Fairy like Pokémon like Kanto Ninetales and Raichu. (But maybe we should just stick to the repeat team)
@@ethantreadway9478 Well at least Pokemon in the Fairy Egg group in my opinion, like Raichu and Chansey, just like how Lance uses Pokemon of the Dragon Egg Group with Aerodactyl, Charizard and Gyarados or how Bugsy uses Drapion which is part of the Bug Egg Group
@@matheussandbakk9959 Chansey is fine, but I wouldn’t give them Raichu since that’s Lt. Surge’s ace. Either a second Wigglytuff or maybe even a Clefairy works better.
@@yorecf9641 Yeah maybe
0:21 Kanto
5:30 Johto
8:02 Hoenn
11:19 Sinnoh
13:41 Unova
15:25 Kalos
19:43 Alola (20:56 Not ironic the only non-specialist is Ice lmao)
21:09 Galar
I think it's mentioned a few times in the anime that there are many more gyms then the ones you see, possibly for every type or possibly just for every good trainer. (like it's said that Cilan and his brothers started their own gym, not that he took over the grass gym of the previous gym leader, so there could be like 20 diffrent grass gyms)
Also in the original series we see Gary with several badges from gyms that are very much not in the games.
Gary in season 1 has 10 badges and 7 or 8 of them are from gyms we never see in the game. So that's 15 or 16 gyms by itself (the 8 Ash has plus the 7 or 8 mystery ones), so for gen 1 there HAD to be at least two gyms that were the same type. Ash also encounters one individual and two groups of people trying to start their own gym (implicitly: ground, bug, and electric). And obviously the games CAN'T be the 100% accurate representation of how the regional really is. Nobody sleeps. Nobody has a toilet. There are huge mystery areas that are completely blocked by 4 foot tall rocks. It makes sense that there are other gym leaders.
Especially if you think about how many trainers there were at the League at the end of the first season, knowing that you have just under a year to gather all the badges to qualify, there'd HAVE to be more than 8 gyms or else they'd be constantly busy.
@@TheKabuto90 maybe Gary went to those illegal gyms in Dark City with Electabuzz and Scyther
That intro never gets old...
And never will
Kanto does have dark types, in one of the most wtf moves in Pokemon history Murkrow and Hondour could exclusively be found in Kanto in their debut generation!
I think he should do a video ranking every regions gym leaders by how strong they are in world. For example, for Kanto, the strongest would probably be Koga because he eventually joined the elite four.
In terms of rank the winner is a tie between Iris and Wallace, they did the exact same jump from Gym Leader to Champion...however I'd give it to Iris because she explicitly defeated Alder, and it's unknown if Wallace actually beat Steven, Delta Episode's ending implies he didn't.
Also, Iris' Challenge Mode rematch is the third-strongest Trainer IN THE SERIES, and has the exact same average level as the second (Platinum Barry). And I'm 99% sure she'd beat Barry, his team sucks against Dragons. Even HGSS Red would struggle against her in all honesty, Hydreigon and Haxorus both probably one-shot most of them.
At most recent point in the Kanto time line Koga is an Elite Four member so I don’t think he should count, Jeannine should be used for Kanto instead.
@@ethantreadway9478 I think that's the point he's making though. The fact Koga was able to join the Elite Four means he's likely stronger than the other Gym Leaders.
Video idea: Mikey should do a top ten favorite places city’s/towns to live in the Pokémon world or region:)
Micheal:there isn't anything we can do for an ice specialist in hoenn
Castform:not hail yeah.
21:35 I'm surprised you haven't done a "Pokemon Sword/Shield but I am an Electric Gym Leader" yet. I guess I'll be adding that to my list of video suggestions along with full teams for all of Ash's traveling companions/classmates. (which would be a decent way to send off Ash after he wins the world tournament and leaves the Anime)
Uh… he LITERALLY says he did a video where he was the electric gym leader in that section..