@@pokefan9602 he actually changed it now to rebuiltcars0199 as of 1/4/2019 so whatever you guys are doing is working. Keep the pressure up on these scumbags!
Thats the #1 thing in Florida, cold a.c.. but that's not necessarily shady. What is shady is every single truck bieng "all highway miles, never been offroad" when the pictures they take is in a field
*You can (and i would) report those dishonest sellers to ebay and get their ad and dishonest dealings stopped with the evidence you have here easily. if you know about it and don't report it, you are contributing to the problem*
You're a fucking troll because this was NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS yet you chose to inject yourself into the conversation that had nothing at all to do with you! Yes THAT makes you a fucking troll!
@@Sheikh_Speare I think most buyers leave feedback within hours or at max days of buying a car. An exciting drive home in a new motor and they're happy and completely drawn in! It isn't until a little later that reality starts to sink in and bam... 'too good to be true'.
That have 100% positive feedback. But they buy a lot of auto parts ALMOST EVERY DAY. Nothing wrong with that of course, but it makes their claim of no damage unbelievable.
I am the owner of the Honda Odyssey in this video. I purchased it with 52,000 miles it now has 130,000 miles with no issues. Can't tell that the inside was ever wet. No lights nothing
As an electronics engineer I can tell you that it makes very, very little difference - yes, salt water will massively accelerate the damage, but anything less than distilled water will corrode metals..... In the long run, they will all have the same problems.
Great video. Here in Manitoba Canada with our Provincial insurance, flood cars can never be registered. One of their reasons (so I’m told) is they don’t want to be responsible for issues later that owners may make an insurance claim for that was due to water damage, examples may be electrical shorts or accidents causes by such failures. Enjoyed your explanation and proofs. Keep up the good work!
You can not replace coolant for water in a lot of cars, its not always because of freezing. Look up Dex rot and see what water will do to a gm 2600 v6 motor which was in a good half of the cars GM produced throughout the 90's and early 2000's, it will cause the rubber in the head gaskets to rot and it forms a sludge in your engine that not only can lead to blown head gaskets but also can warp your valves and cause all kinds of internal damage to your engine.
I think the dealer may respond to that "Well, it goes without saying that it had to be cleaned for resale. We left it with no signs of water damage." I don't think that it's right, I just suspect that might be their angle when pressed on the subject.
Because there's is nothing else to do but change the fluids when a car is flooded. My car was flooded and all I did was let her sit for a couple of days and I changed all the fluids, she did throw a check engine light but went away within a couple of days and she's been running for a year with no problems very reliable despite water getting inside the vehicle about 3 feet high and I had a really low car. They didn't have to do anything because the car is probably working just fine and they are not lying they disclosed that it was water damaged they are just saying no evidence of water damage. To let people know that even though it was water damaged there are no signs of it on the inside like the seats carpet etc, to not deter people from buying it.
If you look at other auctions by the same Ebay account, particularly one for a 2013 CLS 550, you can see where they are stating no problems with the vehicle, and they do a good job at trying to hide the airbag light that is on.They don't go as far to say there is no signs of water, but they are definitely posting false information about the cars.
I bought a 2015 s550 that was supposedly flooded back in late 2014 for 45k and i still have it.. The only thing that was wrong with it was the back axels were a bit messed up and i got it fixed for $2500.. My ride is smooth and sexy! Thanks for the INFORMATIVE videos buddy! Merry Christmas to you and your family!!
They we're 50k brand new.... You should've gotten it brand new with warranties, less miles, and everything brand new...... Also it's funny you got a 2015 in 2014, but it's kinda cool
@@MrLarryDallas45 If this story is true the original owner got flooded out before his car was even in year. Would be like a 2019 or 2020 flooded out today.
I think the true story isn't just the Jeep but those moldy seatbelts. That is 100% a sign of water damage. Buyers beware! If you want to buy a former flood vehicle, cut out the middleman and DIY - from purchase to R-Title. Don't let someone con you into buying something it isn't!
Thanks for the information. Awhile ago, I worked for a company that installed tracking units in case your car was stolen. While doing an install on a 2002 Ford Taurus, I pulled back the carpet and found a lot of dried up mud. Since the customer had just purchased the car from a car rental company and I didn't want to be blamed for an issues later, I felt obligated to let him know what I found. He was shocked and said he was going to go back to the dealer and let them know. It was obvious that the car was in a flood and had a surface clean up only. Another time, I came across a car with water in both taillights. The truck was spotless. The dealer said it must have came from when the car was detailed and that it wasn't involved in a flood. So, there are tell tale signs of flood damage even if the car fax doesn't show it.
Sure, it's as easy as that. A friend operates a vehicle transporter and he frequently notices this trick. He picks up the vehicles for the dealer and drops them of at their location. There he usually meets a 3rd party contractor who is responsible for cleaning the cars. I assume the dealer never sees the cars dirty and without lying could claim, he never saw any flood damage.
Following your lead in other videos I browsed Copart and found a car I want for way cheap, but it's a flood car. It's listed as fully functional on eBay. And randomly this video popped up and answered all the questions I wanted to ask you. Awesomesauce!!
The airbag module sits under the center console which can explain the light & the battery was probably ruined since it sits in a tub under the passenger seat in front of the middle row seat
A couple months ago, someone I was talking to said that right now is not a good time to buy used cars. He and I live in the western suburbs of Chicago, and what he told me is that a lot of these flood cars will be shipped up from Texas and other areas that have fell victim to floods and sold at used car dealerships with the promise that they are in perfect working condition, when in reality, there is major damage that is hidden under all that cleaning and polish.
A flood car will almost always give you problems later on. Most of the major electrical wiring is routed beneath the carpet and corrosion is a guarantee which means the airbags may or may not function properly, the heated and power seats may malfunction, the ABS, infotainment, climate control etc is all wired pretty low and can be super expensive to fix once corrosion sets in and you start having problems. You’re basically stuck with a car that you paid almost $20,000 for and it’s only worth $300-$400 at the junk yard.
A lot of their listings say things like a "previous freshwater flood incident," while the car, in one case, was at Copart in Houston, auctioned on Nov. 24 with moldy leather seats. I would really like to inspect the ATS that was a crash rebuild and see if the SRS was properly repaired.
Gotta love it. Back in '97 I bought a 94 Escort sedan for $4500 with 71k miles, which was a steal. The dealer did not disclose anything wrong with the car. Something always looked off about it, but I couldn't tell what. A few years later, I realized that the passenger side rocker panel did not sit flush like the driver's side. A few years after that, I swapped out the engine at 149K miles to find that it had junk yard paint on it (cleaned off anywhere that you could see top side and bottom side). With that said, it was a great car... I got lucky.
Woe woe a minute, I have just bought a flood damage car. Running perfect. Let's not give all that's cars a bad rap. Water in my car was just in the carpet. I have bought to sell, as you samcrac are the culprit that's got me into buying copart cars to sell
Here in Tennessee, there are no physical checks on the car when being issued a rebuilt title. All you have to do is send in the receipts from the car parts you bought.
The analysis of the video is truly insightful and super high quality. I can your subscribers going up to at least a million. Please make and post more videos like this. I have just subscribed your channel.
A few years back there was a lawsuit against a used car dealership. A guy purchased a vehicle and then had a wreck. He died in the wreck because of airbag failure. When the wreck was investigated it was found that the airbag compartment had been filled with sawdust. The family sued the dealer and lost. Since it was a used car dealer there was no proof it was the sellers fault in that they knew of the airbag issue and didn’t disclose the issue. Knowing how to do this research is a big help. Find the car you want and tell the dealer you want to do your own research, if they really want you to buy the car they will give the time to do your own research. This may be something that showed up, but whether you know the car was repaired correctly or not is a chance you take.
Many years ago, my brother had a part time job maintaining cars at a used car lot. he'd wash them, clean interiors, vacuum rugs,etc. according to him, the dealer had every trick in the book-sawdust in the differential (to mask worn out gears), heavy oil to stop the blue smoke, and some kind of additive that would give the old batteries a few extra weeks of life. they would paint over rust, fill holes with bondo..basically many of the cars were rolling junk. I always wondered how the owned didn't get murdered by pissed off customers.
I bought a 2008 Honda Accord with a rebuilt title. From an individual that had bought it from a dealer and he had owned it for 4 years. And after I got it. So many problems. The one that never went away was that when it would rain water would leak in through the rear window. It had been hit on the right rear quarter panel.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read, you only have to disclose that it's a salvage title flood vehicle. So he's doing nothing illegal as far as the law is concerned if that's true (Exception of SRS light)... He's also trying to sell something, so the truth will be stretched as far as it can go.
Sam there's a dealer ship like this in PCB too - I go there every now and then to have fun, a month ago I went there and every single luxury they had smelled like water. Next day I drove by (It's next to a highway) and all those cars were open. all doors and trunks. There was no discount on these cars, and what strikes me the most, they were all clean titles
I've heard that there are tricks where you can launder the title by re-titling the flood car in certain states, where the new state will give you a clean title. Then to cover your tracks a little more you re-title it again, this time in the state in where it is sold.
Seems like a common technique used by scumbag dealer. My 2017 touareg was totaled by Harvey, (only ~250miles on it. basically new, top level trim, I paid around $60k). Although the water line is definitely lower than this Cherokee, flood water didn't even damage the seats, unfortunately the battery and fusebox are located under the driver seat, so it was totaled. basically the dashboard lights up like a Christmas tree. And I started to track down the vin number on google & some auction sites. About a month later it was listed on copart, the seats were removed and all the wiring are exposed I think they sold for $25k. Anyway about few weeks after that, it pops up on copart website again, and apparently someone cleaned the car and put it back together, it was sold for around $30k. At that time I thought that was the end of story. But wait there is more, about a month after that, the same exact car was listed on eBay for $45k. basically the same description, NO EVIDENCE THAT ANY WATER GET INTO THE CREW COMPARTMENT, warning lights can be easily cleared.
That SAS light could also be due to the seat weight sensors or LRD module being faulty. Under the passenger seat are sensors that detect if a person is present and an LRD (Low Risk Deployment) module that decides when and how fast to deploy the airbag depending on the weight and position of the person in the passenger seat. (If the person is leaning forward, you don't want the air bag to ignite full force into their face, etc)
Merry Christmas! Thanks for the videos. I've been mostly interested in the pizza car, but this was interesting. I've bought all my cars for the past 30 years from the same small Florida dealer. The price has always been right and they actually warranty the cars for as long as you own them for parts at their price and an extremely reasonable hourly rate. I know that over that time I've gotten a few flood cars, but between the reasonable price and the warranty I've always been satisfied. Caveat Emptor!
Texas only requires the car to pass normal state inspection. Only the major cities require emissions inspections. The rest are "safety" and SRS light is not one of the checked items. Dealers can actually submit affidavit of completed repairs, with a rebuilt affidavit, when getting title before it's actually been inspected. Giving dealer a blue rebuilt title, eligible for sale, and puts the responsibility of inspection on the next buyer.
What's Inspected by Vehicle Type Items of Inspection for a Passenger Car 05.01 Inspect Every Passenger Car For: (Listed in suggested order of inspection) * Check for evidence of Financial Responsibility 1. Horn 2. Windshield Wipers 3. Mirror 4. Steering 5. Seat Belts 6. Brakes (system) (Parking - beginning with 1960 models) 7. Tires 8. Wheel Assembly 9. Exhaust System 10. Exhaust Emission System (beginning with 1968 models) 11. Beam Indicator (beginning with 1948 models) 12. Tail Lamps (2); (1) if 1959 model or earlier 13. Stop Lamps (3) 1986 and newer; (2) if 1960-1985; (1) if 1959 model or earlier 14. License Plate Lamp (1) 15. Rear Red Reflectors (2) 16. Turn Signal Lamps (beginning with 1960 models) 17. Head Lamps (2) 18. Motor, Serial, or Vehicle Identification Number 19. Gas caps on vehicles 2-24 model years old 20. Window Tint.
They even lie about where it can be registered! A rebuilt or salvage titled vehicle can never be imported to Canada. Even within Canada a rebuilt vehicle can't be registered in a different province(state). For example a Quebec VGA (Vehicule avec grand accident)(vehicle with past accident damage exceeding 80% of the cars current value) can never be registered in Ontario, even if it passes inspection.
FYI, the wrinkles on the seats are how the factory leather actually is... my dad has a '14 Grand Cherokee with the same seats and they are what Porsche calls "Gathered" leather... I think it's cool. :)
a friend of mine works for a fire extinguisher Co. in Texas and he went to a warehouse a few years back as a scheduled visit to replace the out dated items he services, he told me that there were 6 cars in there that was hung up against the walls when asked why they told him to save space being the cars wasn't going any where for awhile, OK he took it at that, now it makes me wonder if they were hanging them out to dry,, hummmm, makes sense to me knowing all fluids have to be drained and refilled.
Honest as a used car dealer ;-) If a car has a title as flooded, it is because there has been water inside the cabin, otherwise it would not be flooded DOOH ... Cars are driving and standing outside in the rain or snow, etc. It does not hurt them significantly, but water into the cabin, and water standing high in the engine compartment, it is a completely different matter, especially in modern cars that are full of electronics, for the sake of driving and safety.
the big killer is the moisture trapped inside the closed vehicles, very high humidity and when the sun bakes them, it becomes worse than a jungle inside and condenses inside everything. when it condenses it's full of unknown chemicals and silt, which is most likely corrosive and will eat everything, so don't rely upon anything electrical/electronic to work or stay working for long. which means they're great project cars for pure being offroad/racing use only, not worth the possibility of airbag/seatbelt and other major safety failures. ;)
we have a similar issue in nz with people and their pick up trucks taking them across rivers flooding them full with water. tidying everything up then selling it to a dealer or other people
I live near Houston and thankfully my house and cars did not flood but a lot did. As for the ad that simply means that there is no sign of water damage 'NOW'.......LOL
I checked the last few of the cars the seller sold on ebay, all were fresh water flood cars with "no evidence of water inside"! ... The last one with feedback is a 2012 Suburban, the Copart pix have the water line w/l marked just below the door handles. ... Now the sales are private, so the seller found out about Samcrac and TH-cam. ... He currently has a Ford Escape (and more flood cars), which Copart pix shows the water line mark 1/2 way between the door handle and the bottom of the door. ... The ebay listing states ".WE DID NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO THIS ESCAPE BESIDE CHANGE THE OIL WITH PREMIUM SYNTHETIC OIL AND REPLACED THE SEAT CONTROL SWITCH ALONG WITH THE SEAT MOTORS ,NO WATER IN THE VEHICLE OR MECHANICAL COMPONENTS WE ARE OPEN FOR 3RD PARTY INSPECTIONS WE LIFTED UP THE CARPET AND DRIED IT OUT(very minor dents and minor couple scratches consistent with age and usage)" ... No water, dried out the carpet and you replace the seat controller and motors? ... This guy is out and out scamming people, but I expect the State of Florida will do nothing. ... BTW I have bought 2 Mercedes SL's directly from Copart in FL, I need to go thru a broker for FL now >>> I can buy out of state without paying for a broker.
I am a detailer and I do a lot of flood cars but the guy I do them for at least tells people it’s a flood car. A friend of mine bought one even after we told him not to cause it was a flooded Camaro. He had nothing but problems and the dealer even went so far as to fix the first few problems for a month or two but they finally had to say ha we told you the truth you bought it as is knowing that it’s yours now and you can’t blame them they went above and beyond to help him. He came crying to me I said man you bought a car we told you not to buy so don’t cry to me you made your bed now you gotta lay in it. I told him his best bet would be to fix the current problem and sell it and move on live and learn. He listened that time. I myself wouldn’t take a flood car if you gave it to me and I really mean that I wouldn’t waisted my money and time tagging it and putting insurance on it to only get a few hundred miles before it lays down and needs $109k worthy of repairs 😂. Now salvage I have had good luck with those but I want touch them if the got into the sub frame or engine. If all it needs is a front clip fine I can make that work. I have a Chevy Cruze I bought off the same lot that sells the flood car and that’s what it needed whole front clip but the damage wasn’t to bad just cosmetic. I gave $6k for a 2012 Cruze LTZ turbo and it had 60k on it and I’m fixing to hit 170k miles and all I have done is tune up stuff and maintenance except one condenser but I’m positive that was my fault I deliver in it and driveways in Appalachia are hell on low riding cars.
Our mom had once a small volvo and it light the airbagwarning. To remind that airbag needs to be changed. Solution? Small timer that switched the warninglight off after some time.
Copart probably sold the vehicle as an “enhanced” sale after cleaning the carpets. Bio hazard just refers to mold, again, very cleanable. Dependability hinges on how long the vehicle was underwater. There’s a big difference between a vehicle that’s had 5 inches of water in it for a day and one that’s had that for a week. Never mentioned salt water creeping into the actual wires and causing corrosion under the protective coating. This isn’t crooked, it’s business. They’re not demanding ridiculous money.
I went to punta Gorda FL copart other day and looked at some flooded cars from Texas. All cars look good on photo but when I look at them I would want them for free. Why do we have so many Texas flooded cars here? No room in Texas copart to sell them?
Yes the problem from those dealers is they don't fix the car properly they just clean it and sell it for example me I bought like four of those cars and I fixed them perfectly then I sell them it's nothing wrong with just buying a flooded car just make sure you fix it and then sell it
That Jeep went through a thorough recon before being sold. Unless someone pulls the carpet up it's very difficult to see if any water got inside. They are disclosing that they have a flood title so they aren't outright lying about their cars. I've owned two flooded PA cars over the years and neither gave me a single problem that was related to the water. The only way I knew besides the title was branded was by pulling the carpet up and you could see the sediment. A faulty airbag system doesn't make a car more dangerous to operate, simply it will be less effective in an accident. In PA you can't have any warning light on to get a result title and the safety inspection is twice as thorough as a regular one, but you will always have crooked people out there flipping titles. Like they say -Buyer Beware. And who ever heard of an honest car dealer? They will always try to pull something over on someone to make a buck. It's just the way of life for them. Flooded cars can be very good vehicles for a good price, but always know what you may be getting into. I definitely wouldn't buy one on eBay!
Florida rebuilt inspection does not care about airbags being blown or not. I passed in my Bmw with the driver and passenger airbags blown and drove the car like that for a year
I bought a 1979 Chevy C10 that was very heavily flooded, buy there was not a single sign of water damage on it. The float on the carburetor was stuck, no more flooding.
Merry Christmas... BTW, are you seriously going to hook up a train horn to the Pizza Car? I just saw the air tank and horns in this video, that or I ate the wrong kind of 'shrums.
There is truly 1 way to repair these cars 100% Like im doing with my 2013 Dodge Charger flood car. I replaced all the wiring and interior electronics. Once it is done the car will be perfect electronically. If this is not done which will be the case most of the time, there is bound to be some issues no matter what.
I bought a car here in Pennsylvania from a small dealer and inside the trunk behind the panels I have noticed like dirt build-up similar to what you show in the video for the Chevy Spark.. yet my car has a clean title! It sucks
Salvage inspections vary by state. NY doesnt care about airbag light. You must have a complete repair with all the airbags but if the light is on they do not fail you. Mostly care about vin numbers and receipts... looking for stolen parts. Also airbags must be purchased new, no junk yard bags
That Red 2014 Cadillac ATS LUXURY looks like my damaged vehicle from Irma storm when I lived in Florida haha. We salvaged our red 2014 Cadillac ATS after it was water damaged. I really hope that’s not our car being resold 😡
My 1997 Toyota Camry had signs of being in a flood but given that I paid $1200 for it and everything electronic was working, I didn't really care. It didn't have a salvage title, guessing because of it's age, it was a liability only covered car and no claim was made. Still runs great. I bought it off Craigslist. I figure it's like a Craigslist woman, not really good looking but gets the job done LOL.
I found out that dealers often give rewards or special deals to Secretary of State employees that will give them "clean" titles for their cars and trucks. I bet this is another example of that behavior. Some SOS employee was offered a new car for cheap by this person if they issue him a certain amount of clean titles for his cars. He got them a mew car for really cheap and he was able to have 10 or 12 cars with clean titles after a floor amd was able to sell them for 400% profit.
That’s why I don’t buy flood title cars. Now, if I buy a salvage title car, I look up the vin number before buying it. My advise to anyone wanting to buy a car with flooded title, stay away from flooded cars!
a personal inspection is best. Even with a history report, dealers can use the information on the report to their advantage and use a few tricks to earn more money from the sale.
The sad thing is i use to run a small dealer ship and i was honest to my customers about price and the cars owners and history and barley any would buy a car from me they would buy cars from the next door dealer ships who would lie to their customers and they got sued 2 times
At $15k even with the flooding I dont think that Jeep is necessarily a bad buy. I would have it inspected of course but everything seems to work other than the SRS module which could be as simple as buying a $200 part and presto. Cars are more resilient than people think and simply being flooded while parked doesnt necessarily destroy anything (just watch some Top Gear episodes and see what they put their cars through). You get it cheap enough and it'll be a good buy.
Y'all should see what the Cadillac that seller has listed used to look like. Just replaced the fender and hood my ass. Here's a link to the images: autoforwarder.com/en/detail/215377-cadillac-ats-luxury-2014
Jerry Cockman Are you dumb ? "Selling for it $13,000" Theres no way that scam artist is making money at all it sold for $3,400 crashed.The repairs that cars needs is more than 3,000 . Hood , Bumper, Fender , Dash, module , seat belts , and paint job .
These online dealers use company that removes negative feedback. I bought a car from ebay with over 1k 100% feedback. Ends up getting a trashed car. Left negative feedback and i was contacted by company called Netneutral and they told me some BS that negative feedback was wrong. Ebay end up removing my negative feedback. It was company out of florida. They had dealership but was using different name on ebay due to their poor google/yelp review. Learned my lesson. Now on always check in person before buying a car.
That was.a very educational segment on flooded cars. I always buy used cars. My question is , if a car in s cleaned up whAT do you check for inside the car for potential signs of a flooded out vehicle besides the leaves and dirt. Also, whAT would these dealers pay for the flooded out car. I am curios as to how much of a huge profit they are making by misleading the public.
Really great video, I can't believe they can legally get away with this.
+Street Speed 717 Hey Mike next time you have TH-camr call out definitely hit me up, I'll take on your McLaren with my Domino's Pizza car!
haha sounds like a blast! Wil do-
Officially Fangirling (and im a guy) that my two favorite youtubers watch eachother Lmao
i want a working car not a flooded car
Joey Palochak but there was no evidence of flood water lol
Someone is watching this video saying, "ah shit.... that's my Jeep"
TacoTom the guys sent the page in
Shit that’s my Jeep
It was my jeep a swear hurricane came right through northern minnesota
I think he means the person who owns the Jeep now.
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The seller in these Ebay ads has now changed their Ebay ID. Is that further evidence of an ongoing scam?
New id is rebuiltcars019
@@pokefan9602 he actually changed it now to rebuiltcars0199 as of 1/4/2019 so whatever you guys are doing is working. Keep the pressure up on these scumbags!
These dealers are known for shadiness. In Florida, every car ad starts with "A/C blows cold"
TacoTom facts 💀💀
dead xD so true
Thats the #1 thing in Florida, cold a.c.. but that's not necessarily shady. What is shady is every single truck bieng "all highway miles, never been offroad" when the pictures they take is in a field
Yup and driven by an old lady to church !
Just A Car Guy Named Tom A/C blows ice cold. ( we just put a couple of cans of 134a in a car with a bad evap but hey )
Merry Christmas everyone! Stay til the end for some super crazy sh!t!
Merry Christmas Sam
The dealer lists a NJ phone number?
Samcrac congrats on 100k
Demonetized
Samcrac merry Christmas to you an your fam as well
*You can (and i would) report those dishonest sellers to ebay and get their ad and dishonest dealings stopped with the evidence you have here easily. if you know about it and don't report it, you are contributing to the problem*
you know nothing of what i've actually already done to resolve this issue
DaddytechEnt , we all know you didn't do shit
Think what you want you fucking troll
DaddytechEnt , oh that makes me a troll? For calling you out on something you can't actually prove you did? Sure pal.
You're a fucking troll because this was NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS yet you chose to inject yourself into the conversation that had nothing at all to do with you! Yes THAT makes you a fucking troll!
No evidence of water. (Because I powerwashed the shit out of it....)
These sellers deserve to be exposed! New username -> Rebuiltcars019
Justin Kelly I'm really surprised that they have a 100% positive feedback
@@Sheikh_Speare I think most buyers leave feedback within hours or at max days of buying a car. An exciting drive home in a new motor and they're happy and completely drawn in! It isn't until a little later that reality starts to sink in and bam... 'too good to be true'.
That have 100% positive feedback. But they buy a lot of auto parts ALMOST EVERY DAY. Nothing wrong with that of course, but it makes their claim of no damage unbelievable.
I watch your ads no matter how long
Fehzan Ahmed I have a second account with freed TH-cam red. I take links and swap accounts.
I am the owner of the Honda Odyssey in this video. I purchased it with 52,000 miles it now has 130,000 miles with no issues. Can't tell that the inside was ever wet. No lights nothing
Provide vin or your lying lol
Here in the D.R. they connect the SRS light to the oil pressure light to make it look like all is working correctly.
Victor Rodriguez That's clever and shady!
The Dr is a great island.
Another major factor is the type of water it was in. Say salt or freshwater makes a world of difference. Ask car guru
As an electronics engineer I can tell you that it makes very, very little difference - yes, salt water will massively accelerate the damage, but anything less than distilled water will corrode metals..... In the long run, they will all have the same problems.
So, you are saying that you cannot trust a car dealer?
That's a shocker to me..
He is saying that you can’t trust many car dealers, not every single car dealer. That are good and bad
Anti sarcasme is a strange concept, isn't it.
puntje013 carmax would pull this
Great video. Here in Manitoba Canada with our Provincial insurance, flood cars can never be registered. One of their reasons (so I’m told) is they don’t want to be responsible for issues later that owners may make an insurance claim for that was due to water damage, examples may be electrical shorts or accidents causes by such failures. Enjoyed your explanation and proofs. Keep up the good work!
Fluid change=remove bad water from vehicle
You can not replace coolant for water in a lot of cars, its not always because of freezing. Look up Dex rot and see what water will do to a gm 2600 v6 motor which was in a good half of the cars GM produced throughout the 90's and early 2000's, it will cause the rubber in the head gaskets to rot and it forms a sludge in your engine that not only can lead to blown head gaskets but also can warp your valves and cause all kinds of internal damage to your engine.
Ad simply says 'NO signs off water'. Not 'There IS' or There WAS'. A savvy dealer leaving room for plausible deniability.
Ok, how about the part where it says "We Didn't Have to do Anything but change the fluids?" It's just an addition to the "no water found."
I think the dealer may respond to that "Well, it goes without saying that it had to be cleaned for resale. We left it with no signs of water damage." I don't think that it's right, I just suspect that might be their angle when pressed on the subject.
By the time you get to that point, just tell him he is a douchebag and a very huge one indeed
Because there's is nothing else to do but change the fluids when a car is flooded. My car was flooded and all I did was let her sit for a couple of days and I changed all the fluids, she did throw a check engine light but went away within a couple of days and she's been running for a year with no problems very reliable despite water getting inside the vehicle about 3 feet high and I had a really low car. They didn't have to do anything because the car is probably working just fine and they are not lying they disclosed that it was water damaged they are just saying no evidence of water damage. To let people know that even though it was water damaged there are no signs of it on the inside like the seats carpet etc, to not deter people from buying it.
If you look at other auctions by the same Ebay account, particularly one for a 2013 CLS 550, you can see where they are stating no problems with the vehicle, and they do a good job at trying to hide the airbag light that is on.They don't go as far to say there is no signs of water, but they are definitely posting false information about the cars.
Dislikes are scam stealerships...
I bought a 2015 s550 that was supposedly flooded back in late 2014 for 45k and i still have it.. The only thing that was wrong with it was the back axels were a bit messed up and i got it fixed for $2500.. My ride is smooth and sexy! Thanks for the INFORMATIVE videos buddy! Merry Christmas to you and your family!!
They we're 50k brand new.... You should've gotten it brand new with warranties, less miles, and everything brand new...... Also it's funny you got a 2015 in 2014, but it's kinda cool
Memo Lopes New model year vehicles come out towards the end of the previous year. So this is believable.
@@MrLarryDallas45 If this story is true the original owner got flooded out before his car was even in year. Would be like a 2019 or 2020 flooded out today.
I think the true story isn't just the Jeep but those moldy seatbelts. That is 100% a sign of water damage. Buyers beware! If you want to buy a former flood vehicle, cut out the middleman and DIY - from purchase to R-Title. Don't let someone con you into buying something it isn't!
Tom Fielding my sunroof used to leak so mold everywhere but not a flood car
Thanks for the information. Awhile ago, I worked for a company that installed tracking units in case your car was stolen. While doing an install on a 2002 Ford Taurus, I pulled back the carpet and found a lot of dried up mud. Since the customer had just purchased the car from a car rental company and I didn't want to be blamed for an issues later, I felt obligated to let him know what I found. He was shocked and said he was going to go back to the dealer and let them know. It was obvious that the car was in a flood and had a surface clean up only. Another time, I came across a car with water in both taillights. The truck was spotless. The dealer said it must have came from when the car was detailed and that it wasn't involved in a flood. So, there are tell tale signs of flood damage even if the car fax doesn't show it.
Maybe by saying no signs of water, they mean that after cleaning there are no longer any visible signs of water.
Sure, it's as easy as that. A friend operates a vehicle transporter and he frequently notices this trick. He picks up the vehicles for the dealer and drops them of at their location. There he usually meets a 3rd party contractor who is responsible for cleaning the cars. I assume the dealer never sees the cars dirty and without lying could claim, he never saw any flood damage.
It's very common to have the cars cleaned good before sale. A clean flood car will sell for 2x or 3x more than one that is still dirty and moldy.
Except they said in the listing that they didn’t do anything other than change fluids.
Following your lead in other videos I browsed Copart and found a car I want for way cheap, but it's a flood car. It's listed as fully functional on eBay. And randomly this video popped up and answered all the questions I wanted to ask you. Awesomesauce!!
The airbag module sits under the center console which can explain the light & the battery was probably ruined since it sits in a tub under the passenger seat in front of the middle row seat
Damn from 2:59 to 3:03 I went from, I'd buy that jeep to oh hell no
A couple months ago, someone I was talking to said that right now is not a good time to buy used cars. He and I live in the western suburbs of Chicago, and what he told me is that a lot of these flood cars will be shipped up from Texas and other areas that have fell victim to floods and sold at used car dealerships with the promise that they are in perfect working condition, when in reality, there is major damage that is hidden under all that cleaning and polish.
A flood car will almost always give you problems later on. Most of the major electrical wiring is routed beneath the carpet and corrosion is a guarantee which means the airbags may or may not function properly, the heated and power seats may malfunction, the ABS, infotainment, climate control etc is all wired pretty low and can be super expensive to fix once corrosion sets in and you start having problems. You’re basically stuck with a car that you paid almost $20,000 for and it’s only worth $300-$400 at the junk yard.
After cleaning, of course there's no sign of water. Just like you had an ankle injury, there's no sign of a limp.
A lot of their listings say things like a "previous freshwater flood incident," while the car, in one case, was at Copart in Houston, auctioned on Nov. 24 with moldy leather seats. I would really like to inspect the ATS that was a crash rebuild and see if the SRS was properly repaired.
Gotta love it. Back in '97 I bought a 94 Escort sedan for $4500 with 71k miles, which was a steal. The dealer did not disclose anything wrong with the car. Something always looked off about it, but I couldn't tell what. A few years later, I realized that the passenger side rocker panel did not sit flush like the driver's side. A few years after that, I swapped out the engine at 149K miles to find that it had junk yard paint on it (cleaned off anywhere that you could see top side and bottom side). With that said, it was a great car... I got lucky.
Woe woe a minute, I have just bought a flood damage car. Running perfect. Let's not give all that's cars a bad rap. Water in my car was just in the carpet. I have bought to sell, as you samcrac are the culprit that's got me into buying copart cars to sell
My brothers a mechanic and he’s had to deal with used flood damaged cars all the time. With land rovers being the most common.
Merry Christmas Sam
Here in Tennessee, there are no physical checks on the car when being issued a rebuilt title. All you have to do is send in the receipts from the car parts you bought.
The analysis of the video is truly insightful and super high quality. I can your subscribers going up to at least a million. Please make and post more videos like this. I have just subscribed your channel.
They said there is no EVIDENCE of water issues.. Very specific wording that is truthful while being evasive.
A few years back there was a lawsuit against a used car dealership. A guy purchased a vehicle and then had a wreck. He died in the wreck because of airbag failure. When the wreck was investigated it was found that the airbag compartment had been filled with sawdust. The family sued the dealer and lost. Since it was a used car dealer there was no proof it was the sellers fault in that they knew of the airbag issue and didn’t disclose the issue. Knowing how to do this research is a big help. Find the car you want and tell the dealer you want to do your own research, if they really want you to buy the car they will give the time to do your own research. This may be something that showed up, but whether you know the car was repaired correctly or not is a chance you take.
Please add some turbos on that pizza car!
Thank you for telling people about this PSA I bet a lot of people wouldn’t know this
Sam is teaching me all sorts of things I didn't know I wanted to know.
Looks like seller changed their name to rebuiltcars019
that seller name doesn't seem to exist now
Great video. You should do a series on exposing these dishonest people and spotlighting others doing it right. keep up the good work.
Many years ago, my brother had a part time job maintaining cars at a used car lot. he'd wash them, clean interiors, vacuum rugs,etc. according to him, the dealer had every trick in the book-sawdust in the differential (to mask worn out gears), heavy oil to stop the blue smoke, and some kind of additive that would give the old batteries a few extra weeks of life. they would paint over rust, fill holes with bondo..basically many of the cars were rolling junk. I always wondered how the owned didn't get murdered by pissed off customers.
the golden rule of salvage dealers - "Always say less than necessary"
Redbull357 more like “always make the most money possible so we can run a successful business”
I bought a 2008 Honda Accord with a rebuilt title. From an individual that had bought it from a dealer and he had owned it for 4 years. And after I got it. So many problems. The one that never went away was that when it would rain water would leak in through the rear window. It had been hit on the right rear quarter panel.
Thank you sam. I almost bought a 2014 Durango from Texas for $30k. So glad I just rebuilt mine
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read, you only have to disclose that it's a salvage title flood vehicle. So he's doing nothing illegal as far as the law is concerned if that's true (Exception of SRS light)... He's also trying to sell something, so the truth will be stretched as far as it can go.
elecrtical problems guarantee. changing computer and wires are no fun.
Sam there's a dealer ship like this in PCB too - I go there every now and then to have fun, a month ago I went there and every single luxury they had smelled like water. Next day I drove by (It's next to a highway) and all those cars were open. all doors and trunks. There was no discount on these cars, and what strikes me the most, they were all clean titles
I've heard that there are tricks where you can launder the title by re-titling the flood car in certain states, where the new state will give you a clean title. Then to cover your tracks a little more you re-title it again, this time in the state in where it is sold.
Seems like a common technique used by scumbag dealer. My 2017 touareg was totaled by Harvey, (only ~250miles on it. basically new, top level trim, I paid around $60k). Although the water line is definitely lower than this Cherokee, flood water didn't even damage the seats, unfortunately the battery and fusebox are located under the driver seat, so it was totaled. basically the dashboard lights up like a Christmas tree.
And I started to track down the vin number on google & some auction sites. About a month later it was listed on copart, the seats were removed and all the wiring are exposed I think they sold for $25k. Anyway about few weeks after that, it pops up on copart website again, and apparently someone cleaned the car and put it back together, it was sold for around $30k. At that time I thought that was the end of story. But wait there is more, about a month after that, the same exact car was listed on eBay for $45k. basically the same description, NO EVIDENCE THAT ANY WATER GET INTO THE CREW COMPARTMENT, warning lights can be easily cleared.
I spoke to the same seller on eBay and called him out on his bs . He wrote me back saying “ please just go on your way “ lol
That SAS light could also be due to the seat weight sensors or LRD module being faulty. Under the passenger seat are sensors that detect if a person is present and an LRD (Low Risk Deployment) module that decides when and how fast to deploy the airbag depending on the weight and position of the person in the passenger seat. (If the person is leaning forward, you don't want the air bag to ignite full force into their face, etc)
Merry Christmas! Thanks for the videos. I've been mostly interested in the pizza car, but this was interesting. I've bought all my cars for the past 30 years from the same small Florida dealer. The price has always been right and they actually warranty the cars for as long as you own them for parts at their price and an extremely reasonable hourly rate. I know that over that time I've gotten a few flood cars, but between the reasonable price and the warranty I've always been satisfied. Caveat Emptor!
Texas only requires the car to pass normal state inspection. Only the major cities require emissions inspections. The rest are "safety" and SRS light is not one of the checked items. Dealers can actually submit affidavit of completed repairs, with a rebuilt affidavit, when getting title before it's actually been inspected. Giving dealer a blue rebuilt title, eligible for sale, and puts the responsibility of inspection on the next buyer.
What's Inspected by Vehicle Type
Items of Inspection for a Passenger Car
05.01 Inspect Every Passenger Car For: (Listed in suggested order of inspection)
* Check for evidence of Financial Responsibility
1. Horn
2. Windshield Wipers
3. Mirror
4. Steering
5. Seat Belts
6. Brakes (system) (Parking - beginning with 1960 models)
7. Tires
8. Wheel Assembly
9. Exhaust System
10. Exhaust Emission System (beginning with 1968 models)
11. Beam Indicator (beginning with 1948 models)
12. Tail Lamps (2); (1) if 1959 model or earlier
13. Stop Lamps (3) 1986 and newer; (2) if 1960-1985; (1) if 1959 model or earlier
14. License Plate Lamp (1)
15. Rear Red Reflectors (2)
16. Turn Signal Lamps (beginning with 1960 models)
17. Head Lamps (2)
18. Motor, Serial, or Vehicle Identification Number
19. Gas caps on vehicles 2-24 model years old
20. Window Tint.
They even lie about where it can be registered! A rebuilt or salvage titled vehicle can never be imported to Canada. Even within Canada a rebuilt vehicle can't be registered in a different province(state). For example a Quebec VGA (Vehicule avec grand accident)(vehicle with past accident damage exceeding 80% of the cars current value) can never be registered in Ontario, even if it passes inspection.
FYI, the wrinkles on the seats are how the factory leather actually is... my dad has a '14 Grand Cherokee with the same seats and they are what Porsche calls "Gathered" leather... I think it's cool. :)
a friend of mine works for a fire extinguisher Co. in Texas and he went to a warehouse a few years back as a scheduled visit to replace the out dated items he services, he told me that there were 6 cars in there that was hung up against the walls when asked why they told him to save space being the cars wasn't going any where for awhile, OK he took it at that, now it makes me wonder if they were hanging them out to dry,, hummmm, makes sense to me knowing all fluids have to be drained and refilled.
Honest as a used car dealer ;-)
If a car has a title as flooded, it is because there has been water inside the cabin, otherwise it would not be flooded DOOH ... Cars are driving and standing outside in the rain or snow, etc. It does not hurt them significantly, but water into the cabin, and water standing high in the engine compartment, it is a completely different matter, especially in modern cars that are full of electronics, for the sake of driving and safety.
the big killer is the moisture trapped inside the closed vehicles, very high humidity and when the sun bakes them, it becomes worse than a jungle inside and condenses inside everything.
when it condenses it's full of unknown chemicals and silt, which is most likely corrosive and will eat everything, so don't rely upon anything electrical/electronic to work or stay working for long. which means they're great project cars for pure being offroad/racing use only, not worth the possibility of airbag/seatbelt and other major safety failures. ;)
we have a similar issue in nz with people and their pick up trucks taking them across rivers flooding them full with water. tidying everything up then selling it to a dealer or other people
If you want to see the eBay user that posted these cars look up “rebuiltcars019” they changed their username
In most states a rebuilt title from another state can not be registered without going through the entire enhanced inspection again
Don't forget that on lot of cars ECUs are located close to the floor, passenger foot rest area.
I live near Houston and thankfully my house and cars did not flood but a lot did.
As for the ad that simply means that there is no sign of water damage 'NOW'.......LOL
36 used car dealers watch your videos Sam. Merry Christmas!
I checked the last few of the cars the seller sold on ebay, all were fresh water flood cars with "no evidence of water inside"! ... The last one with feedback is a 2012 Suburban, the Copart pix have the water line w/l marked just below the door handles. ... Now the sales are private, so the seller found out about Samcrac and TH-cam. ... He currently has a Ford Escape (and more flood cars), which Copart pix shows the water line mark 1/2 way between the door handle and the bottom of the door. ... The ebay listing states ".WE DID NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO THIS ESCAPE BESIDE CHANGE THE OIL WITH PREMIUM SYNTHETIC OIL AND REPLACED THE SEAT CONTROL SWITCH ALONG WITH THE SEAT MOTORS ,NO WATER IN THE VEHICLE OR MECHANICAL COMPONENTS WE ARE OPEN FOR 3RD PARTY INSPECTIONS WE LIFTED UP THE CARPET AND DRIED IT OUT(very minor dents and minor couple scratches consistent with age and usage)" ... No water, dried out the carpet and you replace the seat controller and motors? ... This guy is out and out scamming people, but I expect the State of Florida will do nothing. ... BTW I have bought 2 Mercedes SL's directly from Copart in FL, I need to go thru a broker for FL now >>> I can buy out of state without paying for a broker.
Seems to me the smartest thing to do before an expected flooding is too remove the battery to avoid potential electrical damage.
Car Salespeople, Stock Broker's, Attorney's, and Real Estate Agent's, never completely trust them. They network with each other too.
I am a detailer and I do a lot of flood cars but the guy I do them for at least tells people it’s a flood car. A friend of mine bought one even after we told him not to cause it was a flooded Camaro. He had nothing but problems and the dealer even went so far as to fix the first few problems for a month or two but they finally had to say ha we told you the truth you bought it as is knowing that it’s yours now and you can’t blame them they went above and beyond to help him. He came crying to me I said man you bought a car we told you not to buy so don’t cry to me you made your bed now you gotta lay in it. I told him his best bet would be to fix the current problem and sell it and move on live and learn. He listened that time. I myself wouldn’t take a flood car if you gave it to me and I really mean that I wouldn’t waisted my money and time tagging it and putting insurance on it to only get a few hundred miles before it lays down and needs $109k worthy of repairs 😂. Now salvage I have had good luck with those but I want touch them if the got into the sub frame or engine. If all it needs is a front clip fine I can make that work. I have a Chevy Cruze I bought off the same lot that sells the flood car and that’s what it needed whole front clip but the damage wasn’t to bad just cosmetic. I gave $6k for a 2012 Cruze LTZ turbo and it had 60k on it and I’m fixing to hit 170k miles and all I have done is tune up stuff and maintenance except one condenser but I’m positive that was my fault I deliver in it and driveways in Appalachia are hell on low riding cars.
Our mom had once a small volvo and it light the airbagwarning. To remind that airbag needs to be changed. Solution? Small timer that switched the warninglight off after some time.
Copart probably sold the vehicle as an “enhanced” sale after cleaning the carpets. Bio hazard just refers to mold, again, very cleanable.
Dependability hinges on how long the vehicle was underwater. There’s a big difference between a vehicle that’s had 5 inches of water in it for a day and one that’s had that for a week.
Never mentioned salt water creeping into the actual wires and causing corrosion under the protective coating.
This isn’t crooked, it’s business.
They’re not demanding ridiculous money.
I went to punta Gorda FL copart other day and looked at some flooded cars from Texas. All cars look good on photo but when I look at them I would want them for free. Why do we have so many Texas flooded cars here? No room in Texas copart to sell them?
Yes the problem from those dealers is they don't fix the car properly they just clean it and sell it for example me I bought like four of those cars and I fixed them perfectly then I sell them it's nothing wrong with just buying a flooded car just make sure you fix it and then sell it
Gotta love dem scammers.
It's just bad karma.
That Jeep went through a thorough recon before being sold. Unless someone pulls the carpet up it's very difficult to see if any water got inside. They are disclosing that they have a flood title so they aren't outright lying about their cars. I've owned two flooded PA cars over the years and neither gave me a single problem that was related to the water. The only way I knew besides the title was branded was by pulling the carpet up and you could see the sediment. A faulty airbag system doesn't make a car more dangerous to operate, simply it will be less effective in an accident. In PA you can't have any warning light on to get a result title and the safety inspection is twice as thorough as a regular one, but you will always have crooked people out there flipping titles. Like they say -Buyer Beware.
And who ever heard of an honest car dealer? They will always try to pull something over on someone to make a buck. It's just the way of life for them. Flooded cars can be very good vehicles for a good price, but always know what you may be getting into. I definitely wouldn't buy one on eBay!
Florida rebuilt inspection does not care about airbags being blown or not. I passed in my Bmw with the driver and passenger airbags blown and drove the car like that for a year
we got a used car dealer hear in Canada that buys American flood cars and fixes them up to resell here. our laws are so laxed in Canada for business.
I bought a 1979 Chevy C10 that was very heavily flooded, buy there was not a single sign of water damage on it. The float on the carburetor was stuck, no more flooding.
Merry Christmas... BTW, are you seriously going to hook up a train horn to the Pizza Car? I just saw the air tank and horns in this video, that or I ate the wrong kind of 'shrums.
shhhhhhhhhhhh
There is truly 1 way to repair these cars 100% Like im doing with my 2013 Dodge Charger flood car. I replaced all the wiring and interior electronics. Once it is done the car will be perfect electronically. If this is not done which will be the case most of the time, there is bound to be some issues no matter what.
Probably part swapped a few parts to get by the inspection and swapped them back afterwards.
I bought a car here in Pennsylvania from a small dealer and inside the trunk behind the panels I have noticed like dirt build-up similar to what you show in the video for the Chevy Spark.. yet my car has a clean title! It sucks
Salvage inspections vary by state. NY doesnt care about airbag light. You must have a complete repair with all the airbags but if the light is on they do not fail you. Mostly care about vin numbers and receipts... looking for stolen parts. Also airbags must be purchased new, no junk yard bags
That Red 2014 Cadillac ATS LUXURY looks like my damaged vehicle from Irma storm when I lived in Florida haha. We salvaged our red 2014 Cadillac ATS after it was water damaged. I really hope that’s not our car being resold 😡
At 3:04 you can see that the gauge cluster is actually turning on while the car is full of water.
My 1997 Toyota Camry had signs of being in a flood but given that I paid $1200 for it and everything electronic was working, I didn't really care.
It didn't have a salvage title, guessing because of it's age, it was a liability only covered car and no claim was made. Still runs great.
I bought it off Craigslist. I figure it's like a Craigslist woman, not really good looking but gets the job done LOL.
I found out that dealers often give rewards or special deals to Secretary of State employees that will give them "clean" titles for their cars and trucks. I bet this is another example of that behavior.
Some SOS employee was offered a new car for cheap by this person if they issue him a certain amount of clean titles for his cars. He got them a mew car for really cheap and he was able to have 10 or 12 cars with clean titles after a floor amd was able to sell them for 400% profit.
That’s why I don’t buy flood title cars. Now, if I buy a salvage title car, I look up the vin number before buying it. My advise to anyone wanting to buy a car with flooded title, stay away from flooded cars!
a personal inspection is best. Even with a history report, dealers can use the information on the report to their advantage and use a few tricks to earn more money from the sale.
The sad thing is i use to run a small dealer ship and i was honest to my customers about price and the cars owners and history and barley any would buy a car from me they would buy cars from the next door dealer ships who would lie to their customers and they got sued 2 times
At $15k even with the flooding I dont think that Jeep is necessarily a bad buy. I would have it inspected of course but everything seems to work other than the SRS module which could be as simple as buying a $200 part and presto. Cars are more resilient than people think and simply being flooded while parked doesnt necessarily destroy anything (just watch some Top Gear episodes and see what they put their cars through). You get it cheap enough and it'll be a good buy.
Every flood listing they have has the same no water BS.
Y'all should see what the Cadillac that seller has listed used to look like. Just replaced the fender and hood my ass. Here's a link to the images: autoforwarder.com/en/detail/215377-cadillac-ats-luxury-2014
I sent them an email through ebay. Waiting for a response😈
Btw it sold for $3400 and they are trying to sell it for 13k!
Jerry Cockman Are you dumb ? "Selling for it $13,000" Theres no way that scam artist is making money at all it sold for $3,400 crashed.The repairs that cars needs is more than 3,000 . Hood , Bumper, Fender , Dash, module , seat belts , and paint job .
These online dealers use company that removes negative feedback. I bought a car from ebay with over 1k 100% feedback. Ends up getting a trashed car. Left negative feedback and i was contacted by company called Netneutral and they told me some BS that negative feedback was wrong. Ebay end up removing my negative feedback. It was company out of florida. They had dealership but was using different name on ebay due to their poor google/yelp review. Learned my lesson. Now on always check in person before buying a car.
That was.a very educational segment on flooded cars. I always buy used cars. My question is , if a car in s cleaned up whAT do you check for inside the car for potential signs of a flooded out vehicle besides the leaves and dirt. Also, whAT would these dealers pay for the flooded out car. I am curios as to how much of a huge profit they are making by misleading the public.
It had a salvage title so they're not deceiving anyone. It sold for $15k. It's not like they claimed it was in new condition and sold it for retail.
5:09 and before when you show the pictures of the jeep with water. Its very clear atleast the dashboard is working with water in the car
Perhaps the dealers meant “No evidence of water after they cleaned it up.” They seem to have happy customers.
Would love to see someone confront the dealer
I'm very glad I am not in the market for a used car right now ... nor will I be for a while.
Sounds like that eBay dealer has someone on the inside who is willing to risk their job to retitle these cars.
in tennessee if your engine light is on you fail, but all the other lights are fine
That's a Jeep lmao I bet it wasn't even flooded until Billy opened the door like "hmm, I wonder if there's any wa..."