CURRENT BAKI HANMA VS CURRENT TOKITA OHMA

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  • @mysteriousweeb
    @mysteriousweeb  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

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  • @evgeniygerkus9242
    @evgeniygerkus9242 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    Cockroach dash went from being an extremely op technique, with Baki pushing Yujiro through like five walls and landing three consecutive punches on Musashi with it, to being completely useless after Doppo and Ohma were able to react (How!?) and effortlessly block it

    • @yes8828
      @yes8828 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Well, it's pretty straightforward atack, so if you understand how it works, you can block it before atack even happens.

    • @evgeniygerkus9242
      @evgeniygerkus9242 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@yes8828 yeah, if you can react to it. A mind reader like Musashi couldn't, but Doppo and Ohma somehow could.

    • @kingkwame4038
      @kingkwame4038 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@evgeniygerkus9242 Musashi specifically could react to it. He knew the first one was coming, but he underestimated how fast it would be. The second one came with a kick and Musashi countered with ease, kicking Baki’s leg that was still on the ground, changing the trajectory of the kick

    • @Depressing_joe
      @Depressing_joe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      My thought exactly when watching the crossover, i was like okay here we go the big move, then baki got blocked and sent away casually. At least the corssover should explains how ohma blocks the attack.

    • @Dat_Doggo
      @Dat_Doggo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@Depressing_joeI saw some other comments saying Baki got sent flying because Ohma used demons bane on him or something like that, but ya Baki still should have sent Ohma flying with cockroach dash

  • @HebiSaru21
    @HebiSaru21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    I'm just saying and calling it
    What Ryuki did to Adam, that shows Kengan Omega is ganna start adding Baki-Logic & Baki-Durability in terms of how much abuse they can survive

    • @user-lx7xo9dd3o
      @user-lx7xo9dd3o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah you’re kinda I don’t think that attack on Chiba is supposed to let him live, twisting his neck is supposed to make him dead

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I mean Baki absurdity with Kengan choreography sounds like a great combo to me.

    • @bgill6623
      @bgill6623 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean didn't Raian already do that with Mokichi in asura?

  • @RamenHutt
    @RamenHutt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Demons bane is a less advanced form of "water stream rock smashing fist."

    • @RoyalKnight07.
      @RoyalKnight07. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Not really. While wsrsf can be used more frequently and easier it only parries and redirects the power of the enemy. Meanwhile demon's bane is harder and riskier to use but it adds the users strength the power thats redirected making it stronger. Ofc wsrsf is better but it isnt an advanced version of demons bane since they have a lot of differences

    • @JuanCarlos-nl3qh
      @JuanCarlos-nl3qh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@RoyalKnight07. WSRSF redirects the users power twice plus adding your own power. It does not have a form either. That is how garou neg-diffed TTM and scared DS into losing (DS is durable enough to sustain Bang's attacks without damage). It is an advanced level of demonsbane.

    • @Telarius
      @Telarius 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@RoyalKnight07. wsrf isn't defensive purely. Garou uses it to double his attack power multiple times.

    • @lPolysy
      @lPolysy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​​@@Telarius it's a defensive technique bro😂. The best example is when he deflected genos punch point blank with his knee. That shit was too clean

  • @marvynjeanbaptiste3206
    @marvynjeanbaptiste3206 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i hope this gets a sequel series. i really wanna see kuroki and yujiro to train baki and ohma respectively.

  • @sintho3107
    @sintho3107 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ohma DID use Demonsbane in the crossover, we just didn't SEE it to not spoil the anime onlys. Just when Cosmo said he couldn't see what happened. So it did take Demonsbane AND an Advance Punch to make Baki activate Demonback.

    • @thefirstprime0124
      @thefirstprime0124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn't use it, it would have done wayyy more damage if he did

    • @sintho3107
      @sintho3107 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@thefirstprime0124 The movie was not rally showing damage like in the series. I agree it should have shown way more damage. But Demonsbane is the only logical explanation for this moment. Baki does the cockroach dash. Ohma blocks it the same way he uses Demonsbane against Kiozan in Kengan Omega. And Baki gets thrown back. It was not explained or shown in detail to not spoil. But a little wink to the manga readers who already know about DB. I think my interpreatation is valid.

    • @thefirstprime0124
      @thefirstprime0124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @sintho3107 yea that makes sense but for that to be one ohmas STRONGEST technique idk

  • @MisterCaloy
    @MisterCaloy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

    Definitely not as one sided as people think, current Baki still takes mid diff, but they should not sleep on Ohma either

    • @quironmalcolm6174
      @quironmalcolm6174 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      I mean no one is sleeping on ohma it’s just the fact that Baki is not in his prime but yet still can beat ohma at age 18 while ohma is 20+ something that’s crazy tbh.

    • @mfrebel7831
      @mfrebel7831 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      My thoughts exactly

    • @SleepyChloeFist
      @SleepyChloeFist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Mid diff, low diff. An L's an L, especially in a fight.

    • @ammonaustin9081
      @ammonaustin9081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@quironmalcolm6174
      I wouldn't say crazy. Baki just has really bad logic to justify their character strength.
      Kengan tries to make anime martial arts somewhat grounded. Baki just goes full cartoon mode.

    • @andreasedich2418
      @andreasedich2418 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What​@@SleepyChloeFist

  • @LancelotChan
    @LancelotChan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    of course baki is stronger, no doubt. Doesn't mean ohma isn't interesting to watch. :D It's ok to be weaker and still be very interesting to read.

    • @sinoxilurk4126
      @sinoxilurk4126 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      pov you have a developed frontal lobe (very rare in the fighting manga community)

    • @Acheron420
      @Acheron420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Totally true, also I don’t think this crossover was really needed in the slightest, hopefully it gave kengan fans some good animation of their characters for once

    • @MusashiDamacy
      @MusashiDamacy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Acheron420???
      The fight choreography and animation for Kengan are almost infinitely better than Baki, despite the CG.
      Even in the video, there was the scene Baki got grazed, flew up in the air, and the fight had to fucking pause and wait for Baki to spin around like ten times.
      I don't have braincells quantifiably low enough to actually prefer that in my animation.
      So, no.
      I'm sure Kengan fans don't exactly like a direct downgrade from "rough-looking fights" to "cartoony-looking bullshit".

  • @jor305
    @jor305 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Next: Current Julius Ceasar vs Current Oliva. My money on Julius

    • @laquanlucas6953
      @laquanlucas6953 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I have Olivia taking it

    • @shahsultan6241
      @shahsultan6241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We maybe see it after Julius's fight.

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Julius for sure still Oliva is more cool

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shahsultan6241 dats for sure

    • @floatingcloud94
      @floatingcloud94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Julius is way stronger …Olivia can control ang part of his muscle but in Kengan omega purgatory arc julius can control every single fibre of his muscles n he focused every fibre and cells of his arm n turned into all scaly n punched a strong opponent n now in Shen ‘s arc which is like 6-10 years after purgatory arc ..he can prolly control every muscle fibre of f his entire body all at once turning into a full scaly compressed muscle freak

  • @Leviathan1000
    @Leviathan1000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I remember baki saying in the movie Ohma is like all the opponents he face into one including yujiro and I thought that was a funny quote. Obviously for the crossover he said that but in manga form I doubt it. Ohma strong but baki scaling is something else.

    • @ammonaustin9081
      @ammonaustin9081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If Ohma was put into Manga form, he would just be scaled up to the Bakiverse.
      So don't really understand this copium.

    • @bakidrip
      @bakidrip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ammonaustin9081 Ohma would still not be Yujiro level thats absurd😭

    • @ammonaustin9081
      @ammonaustin9081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @bakidrip
      He never said he was as powerful as Yujiro but that his skill level and variety of skills is comparable.
      Literally is the whole point of the Niko style; to have an array of abilities that cover every situation.
      If Ohma was in the Bakiverse where the author allows his characters to just do cartoonish strength feats like stop EQs combined with his skill-set, he's taking a violent dump on pretty much everyone outside of Yujiro and Baki.

    • @bakidrip
      @bakidrip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ammonaustin9081 Alright i'll give you that, but at the same time its hard to believe that Ohma is giving a major fight to someone who knows every martial art skill.
      Also Bakiverse logic isnt all that cartoonish after seeing some of the techniques presented in Kengan Ashura which are honestly by far more unexplainable.

    • @derpibooruthecommenter1354
      @derpibooruthecommenter1354 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ammonaustin9081 Ohma has a chance to beat all the A tiers in Baki but he 100% loses to Yujiro, Baki, Musashi, Pickle, Yuichiro and Current Jack.

  • @sethtone8634
    @sethtone8634 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Baki basically did the same thing to Jack by copying everyone...was just a callback .............Jack maxing out on roids was a call back.................Hanayamas fight was a call back to when he fought Baki... cracking his broken fingers and punching over and over again...

  • @jocoolshow
    @jocoolshow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Baki vs Kengan
    AP/Durability- Relative, both in the Multi City Block to Town Level range. Baki has more outliers you can use to highball the verse though, like Pickle surviving the meteor that wiped out the Dinosaurs or Oliva slamming the dude so hard ‘the Earth shook’, but considering how Yujiro has Town level calcs and is compared to a nuclear warhead (Nukes are generally Town level), I think Town level Baki is more consistent. If this was just Asura then I’d say Baki has the advantage but with Omega drastically up scaling everyone, I think they’re relative enough to where we won’t be seeing one shots
    Speed- Baki, High Hypersonic to Massively Hypersonic vs Kenyan’s maybe High Hypersonic for people that scale to Rei and Fei, with most of the verse being slower and the few that can keep up needing precog to do so. While Baki has many high hypersonic feats and could get MHS with Yujiro’s hypothetical casual lightning dodge
    Technique- Kengan. Baki has more wacky techniques that are borderline superpowers, though Kengan, while also keeping that fictional Superhuman capabilities, actually focuses more on martial arts and technical skill within that. There’s a lot of overlap with both having prediction before the opponent thinks, durability negation techniques, stat amp techniques etc but the more practical martial focus goes to Kengan. If you give Baki and Kengan characters stats equal fights to start (with stat amping techs allowed for both sides…techniques only like Cockroach tackle, Mach Punch, Flame Kata, Adamantine Kata etc but transformations like Advance or Demon Back/Brain…then I think Kengan characters generally take it)
    Skill- Either relative or Baki. With Omega rolling around and the level of skill evolving to the point where a lot of people or on or above Asura Kuroki’s level and how the Connector told Ohma that the way people who maxed out their physical potential can still get stronger is through refined technique, essentially meaning besides Omega Kuroki, skill wise the rest of the verse is nowhere close to him despite all being masters of martial arts who surpass ‘conventional’ masters of martial arts
    And then on the Baki end, they’re relative with the conventional masters of martial arts being fodder to the main cast and then several layers of skill above masters. What makes Baki potentially take the skill department all depends on how literally you take their skill gaps.
    Motobe mastered all martial arts, Yujiro cooked him, Doppo matched this era’s Yujiro, then after losing went on a journey to gain an ‘infinite’ jump in skill, with people like Katsumi surpassing him, let alone Baki, Yujiro, Musashi etc
    But if you take that ‘infinite’ gap in skill as just flowery language then I think they’re relative. If you think it’s not then Baki takes it.
    Overall Baki verse wins mainly due to speed and potentially skill if you take certain statements seriously, but in terms of AP/Dura and skill I think they’re relative and in terms of techniques I think Kengan is superior.

    • @hallucination3817
      @hallucination3817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      baki is stated to have a faster than light jab when he encounters musashi

    • @mostloved_treso
      @mostloved_treso 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is based

    • @jocoolshow
      @jocoolshow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hallucination3817 Yujiro explained how descriptions like that are nothing more than words to describe a technique being fast rather than being their actual speed
      But if we take it literally, Carlos in Kengan also said his punches are faster than light. And Baki is arguably the fastest character in the series, even out speeding Yujiro when they fought (though Yujiro had the raw strength/durability advantage), while Carlos is nowhere near the fastest in the verse and is more like a high tier as opposed to a top tier or god tier. Current top tiers would be in the Agito/Current Gaolang/Jurota/Ohma/Kuroki/Rolon/Raian tier while current god tiers would be in the Hypnotized Rei/Divine Demon Fei/Connector tier of speed
      So if we use the faster than light meta for both, Kengan would be faster as Baki is arguably the fastest in the verse and Carlos who isn’t close to the fastest has the same statement
      But with the high go massively hypersonic meta Baki would be faster

    • @jocoolshow
      @jocoolshow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mostloved_treso 🤝

    • @hallucination3817
      @hallucination3817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jocoolshow why would he use hyperbole in his own thoughts, and that narrative faded when we see katsumi actually doing a mach punch when it’s called mach punch!

  • @TheMightyDevilLuis
    @TheMightyDevilLuis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ohma is massively strong in the current series.

  • @markomurisic1354
    @markomurisic1354 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A Well Done video as usual

  • @-Verycardhock
    @-Verycardhock 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Baki rahen stated if jack fell from the skyscraper it would be bad for the cement. That statement likely exists for Baki as well. If anyone other than shen wulong fell from a skyscraper, they would die. Anyone is kengan would die at just that alone.

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You have not read omega

    • @-Verycardhock
      @-Verycardhock 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @mysteriousweeb ?? Okay pal. Last chapter was the karate guy kicking the American black guy. Ohma barely beat the sumo guy when he fought, sukune would destroy that sumo guy and baki one shot sukune. The kengan power scaling isn't baki level yet. Other than shen and likely future ohma and raian
      I read every Wednesday at 12 on comic key buddy. Quite the statement to say I don't read kengan. I've been reading kengan since chapter 50 of ashura

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@-Verycardhock ok, it's you dont follow the kengan scaling

    • @-Verycardhock
      @-Verycardhock 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @mysteriousweeb what feats are you trying to compare? Pickle killed a t-rex no one in kengan could do that. Musashi could barely cut pickle only leave scars and baki beat both. What feats in omega are shown to beat a t-rex? What feats beat pickles t-rex feat? Name one. Baki beat Olivia in a contest of strength. That's like beating reinhold in a feat of pure strength. I'm very curious to what you might say back to this cause anyone who reads this will understand what I'm getting at

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@-Verycardhock wakatsuki shook the purg mountain, karo the low tier slayed a giga whale underwater. Ohma demonsbane destroyed part of a forest

  • @KyleDJones
    @KyleDJones 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep up the videos!! Everyone loves the baki content on a usual basis

  • @Winddemonslayer
    @Winddemonslayer 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People are just saying “Baki would win” or “Baki is stronger” without really knowing how OP he is for his age and not just him but also the other young teenage fighters in the show, Baki hasn’t even been said to have mastered or even said to have been able to control his demon back also he’s only 18! For Baki the sky’s the limit and Baki has so much more to learn and he’s already learned so much

  • @tizthaseason6065
    @tizthaseason6065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So Ohma has full counter/KO ken techniques😮 that's baki rival for sure!

  • @hntrip
    @hntrip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im just glad Kengan got a buff instead of Baki characters getting a nerf. All the Kengan fighters aren’t stupidly OP like Baki Characters. So glad they did this movie right

  • @BastoGhost
    @BastoGhost 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The best representation of the fight would be like in the crossover when Baki drops Ohma in half a second, exept he never gets up.

    • @ammonaustin9081
      @ammonaustin9081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Yes, this would have made Baki fanboys very happy

    • @floatingcloud94
      @floatingcloud94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ammonaustin9081exactly 😂😂😂😂Baki fanboys forget Kengan characters r super super nerfed while Baki characters r quite advance after Baki vs Yujiro arc …

    • @ammonaustin9081
      @ammonaustin9081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @floatingcloud94
      Exactly lol. It's so weird when nerds fanboy over a specific verse rather than just enjoy the entertainment.
      It's as stupid as Comparing DBZ vs Bleach but then get mad that DBZ characters don't 1-shot Bleach characters if they ever made a crossover.

    • @bakidrip
      @bakidrip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@floatingcloud94 the Kengan characters are not nerfed at all bro, if anything they are buffed, especially Ohma who is now able to go toe to toe against someone who is literally stated to be The Strongest Creature at this point in the manga

    • @floatingcloud94
      @floatingcloud94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bakidrip n none which version they used ..Kengan ashura version of ohma after the tournament 🤣🤣n then happens Kengan omega purgatory arc which is 3-5 years where everyone is friggin buffed and then the worm arc which is 4-5 years after purgatory arc which is again way way longer after the purgatory arc and then the connector arc which is like 10 years later ..so yes they used the weakest version of Kengan ashura characters who went toe to toe with Baki who have fought Olivia n defeated n fought pickle n then Yujiro ….so Baki is very well developed to an extend whole ohma is very weak 🤣🤣🤣

  • @AadiNothing
    @AadiNothing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Record of ragnarok next 😭😭😭

  • @hyoh7328
    @hyoh7328 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ohma is too slow and very straight forward.. if baki want to.. ohma wouldnt land any hit on him...remember that pickle speed is almost as fast as teleportation but baki was still faster than pickle...

  • @Primer3976
    @Primer3976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If we see baki geting youjiros ability too see the weak spots of Evry opponent my god baki is gonna bee unstobebal the usa gona need to sign a new contract

  • @franchottwoodjr6181
    @franchottwoodjr6181 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with everything you said in this video, sir.

  • @KuroReisho
    @KuroReisho 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard Baki was about to end, I kind of wish it doesn't,
    Idk to me it could be a generational story where they're always adding Yujiro level fighters for the main characters to overcome

  • @kaisenii2804
    @kaisenii2804 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    another goated video, pleasure to be recognized by the goat

  • @jmkos86
    @jmkos86 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t get why some ppl still harbor on this crossover. Had they put Jigglypuff in this, somehow everyone would even out. That’s what these crossovers do because they HAVE to or else it won’t be a “crossover”.

  • @Brightsonp
    @Brightsonp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have seen asura (asura's wrath) struggle against akuma and luffy go toe to toe with goku, there is no reason for people to bawling about how baki can't one shot ohma in crossover

  • @malex3606
    @malex3606 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the next film, they should keep baki characters in 2D while the kengan fighters are in 3D.

  • @KangFu91
    @KangFu91 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a show like baki is a fun show and pays its respect to martial arts and does not need to be taken “too” seriously

  • @PhantomRAQ50
    @PhantomRAQ50 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ohma's counter to cockroach dash was absolutely a preinitiative Demonsbane

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only

    • @PhantomRAQ50
      @PhantomRAQ50 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mysteriousweeb Front leg knee bent forward, back leg stretched back, front arm and shoulder braced to take impact and back arm braced to deliver a punch. This is the demonsbane stance: you see it multiple times in Ohma vs Wakatsuki, in Ohma vs Kiozan, and vs Kuroki we see demonsbane x Advance delivering the blow from the same stance. This is the exact same stance Ohma is in when he clashes with Baki's Cockroach dash. He used Demonsbane.

  • @9ipalvin858
    @9ipalvin858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an anime only I thought it'd be baki stomping on a grave

  • @rheyshassell585
    @rheyshassell585 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly its just Baki logic. .ist fighters in the series are superhuman with out having out right super powers. Kengan is more fun to wTch because its actually possibke for fighters to not be given over powered stats or plot armour ( like the Yujiro vs Baki fight)

    • @SolidSnake240
      @SolidSnake240 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You clearly don't read Kengan lol. The feats later on especially in Kengan Omega are ridiculous and not realistic at all.

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SolidSnake240yup easily on par or more dan Baki Series recently a fodder shook da arena in Kengan

  • @darajabar93
    @darajabar93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shen Wulong wont beat Baki, let alone Yujiro Hanma.
    I said this before and I am pretty sure am it is the ONLY correct way looking at this:
    Shen Wulong has 0% chance of winning against Yujiro
    Shen Wulong has about 30% chance of winning against high tier characters like Baki, Musashi, Hanayama (probably), current Pickle (most likely) and Jack Hanma.
    Shen Wulong has about 50% chance of winning against the tier 2 characters like current Katsumi, Oliva, Kaku, Sukune
    Shen Wulong has about 80% chance of winning against the tier 3 characters, such as Doppo, Shibukawa, Retsu
    Shen Wulong has 100% chance of winning against anyone lower than tier 3 characters, such as the OLD prisoners, Ali Jr, Kato, Sanada, etc.

    • @justinmcdonald2072
      @justinmcdonald2072 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That has no logic to base a fight on, you have no information on how Shen fights, he barely put effort in killing Makaku. What methods of combat does Shen use we don't know.

    • @sinoxilurk4126
      @sinoxilurk4126 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "the ONLY correct way looking at this" but doesnt provide any arguments

    • @flappyflap2693
      @flappyflap2693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this comment was made by a dumbass guys be glad you checked the replies

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We literally do not know enough about Shen for those to be reasonable estimations.

    • @CladineiOficinal
      @CladineiOficinal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you seriously think hanayama is stronger than sukune, kaku and katsumi?
      Come on, even hanada beat him uup

  • @alucard1522
    @alucard1522 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Perfect vid 👍👍👍

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      gotta finish the vid first m8

    • @supersoftMon-qs9jh
      @supersoftMon-qs9jh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mysteriousweeb lol 😂

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mysteriousweeb got it 👍👍

  • @Truejota
    @Truejota 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This video did not out require 18 minutes 💀

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It did, watch the video

  • @user-yn8kz6en7v
    @user-yn8kz6en7v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Will pick have a child with the news reporter

    • @jinkazama6529
      @jinkazama6529 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine yes 💀

  • @Acheron420
    @Acheron420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This definitely isn’t a competition IF Baki is serious and we’re not making them equal power levels, I’m sorry but Baki and his father literally threw air blasts with their fists among all the other absolutely ridiculous shit they do not to mention raw durability.
    Making them equal power idrc cool vid I guess, this is why I avoided the Baki vs kengan stuff not really fair to kengan, bakis just raw asf

  • @user-fo4ow7yg5q
    @user-fo4ow7yg5q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The good thing is that kengan is gonna end way before baki does thanks to the writer taking a break damn near every week. Thats gonna give baki verse a huge advantage in scaling over time, unless the writer of kengan decides to make another story after omega. Baki currently only has 20+ chapters while omega has 200+.

    • @Charlemagne788
      @Charlemagne788 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kengan is gonna go WAY longer than Baki, it's already said Baki is within its last couple - few arcs and things must be pretty desperate if there using the mf sumo wrestler for there now arc🤣🤣🤣

    • @user-fo4ow7yg5q
      @user-fo4ow7yg5q หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Charlemagne788 opposite, kengan is gonna end first

    • @Charlemagne788
      @Charlemagne788 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-fo4ow7yg5q proof?

  • @CaptainBudak
    @CaptainBudak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We here !

  • @TuanTran-ek6yc
    @TuanTran-ek6yc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If we talk about techniques, lookism will also be a verse that has the good match up against kengan

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely no

  • @user-vu8vt1mn5y
    @user-vu8vt1mn5y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you reckon baki can copy the advance?

  • @snipermonke6920
    @snipermonke6920 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the fact that one was made to be a little more realistic and the other is idk

  • @fernandogordon6503
    @fernandogordon6503 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They used part 1 to show that baki can use the techniques of the other fighters and how much he as learn and grown over time.

  • @thefirstprime0124
    @thefirstprime0124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Baki should win but ill say High diff after Ohmas training I believe it could go either way

  • @hollowedboi5937
    @hollowedboi5937 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The crossover was so bad so many reused frames and “back story” filler.
    My friend and I legit called out each time “ONE MORE TIME” when hanayama did that turnaround punch. Like legit 6 times?
    And then back story was “hey you wanna fight this guy?”
    “No”
    “He’s really strong tho.”
    “Ok I’ll fight him.”
    For each person and each fight. Like 6 minutes interruptions.

  • @uryuloquen4054
    @uryuloquen4054 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Baki fans when a better fighting serie comes up

  • @user-nu8vw1ow4n
    @user-nu8vw1ow4n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Obama & Hillary Trump appear in Kengan tounament of season 1 too
    Can those three be the same persons in Baki? (Plot Hole) 🤨

  • @omarmohamed1904
    @omarmohamed1904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    bro i like kangen more.
    but baki character is more powerful than kangen character that's came to kangen is more realistic in power
    so what make all mad about film? because baki has more fans and in film they nerfed all character to much thats make me who like kangen more mad to
    one like Jack my source of motivation (thats real) make him weaker like 10 time than usual and shorter like 30sm thats 1 CH how about outher
    because this i respect all baki fan about has mad because that make me mad too😂

    • @jocoolshow
      @jocoolshow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kengan is but more realistic in terms of strength/AP, they got Multi City Block to Town Level feats just like Baki. They’ve also got people dodging bullets and moving faster than the human brain could realistically perceive in both series, though Baki has faster speed feats

    • @gyver8448
      @gyver8448 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jocoolshow Blocking bullets is actually lowballing Kengan characters. Inaba, one of the weaker characters in the Kenganverse, has been shown blocking fully automatic gunfire at point blank range. Stronger characters have been shown striking at up to mach 90, and that's before the several years of training they're currently going through.

    • @flappyflap2693
      @flappyflap2693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so basically you're a baki fan and you're just spouting some bullshit out ur ass about liking kengan ashura (this mf can't even spell the series right even though he edited his comment.) stay in ur lane lil bro 😭🙏

    • @thefirstprime0124
      @thefirstprime0124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gyver8448that's crazy

  • @p.wildtv
    @p.wildtv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a let down. I was hoping for more

  • @hiyou9327
    @hiyou9327 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice

  • @legion566
    @legion566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kengan fans are salty lol

  • @Gamingmonkey81
    @Gamingmonkey81 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Which do you like more, kengan or baki?

    • @jeffweber7043
      @jeffweber7043 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Baki! But Kengan is definitely awesome as well

    • @a_guy_in_the_internet
      @a_guy_in_the_internet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the channel guy top 3 mangas are :
      1 - kengan ashura
      2 - berserk
      3 - baki the grappler
      He said it in a post, also no kengan omega just ashura lol

    • @Gamingmonkey81
      @Gamingmonkey81 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@a_guy_in_the_internet Wierd he does almost non berserk and much more baki than kengan.

    • @a_guy_in_the_internet
      @a_guy_in_the_internet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gamingmonkey81 probably because of the views
      Also maybe because baki Has so much going on rn like with jack and stuff

    • @Gamingmonkey81
      @Gamingmonkey81 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@a_guy_in_the_internet Yeah you are probably right

  • @worldbreaker80
    @worldbreaker80 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Baki stopm the kengan verse izi

  • @alexgames8861
    @alexgames8861 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice

  • @solaire07
    @solaire07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you think Baki's strongest technique is? I think it's his 0.5 second punch

  • @spectaa3138
    @spectaa3138 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yujiro didn't stop that earthquake, everything else yes, but this one: hard no

    • @finnnodiffs
      @finnnodiffs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he litteraly did, and this feat isnt even the best so debunking it is uselss

  • @TuanTran-ek6yc
    @TuanTran-ek6yc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Baki's feats aren't that absurd if we just look at his individual battles
    it just horrify when we stack them up on each other

  • @kevinayala2028
    @kevinayala2028 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Willow shit Baki did it to anayama in grappler

  • @Ryujibarbarian
    @Ryujibarbarian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shen wulong or yujiro hanma

  • @doomsday3662
    @doomsday3662 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What if baki learns removal? 🤔

    • @PhantomZone15
      @PhantomZone15 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nah

    • @RyomenHanma
      @RyomenHanma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      WHAT IF HE COPIED OHMAS ADVANCE WHILE FIGHTING HIM?! DEMON BACK AND ADVANCE💀

    • @a_guy_in_the_internet
      @a_guy_in_the_internet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@RyomenHanma can baki heart takes it tho
      I mean heart is a muscle after all and that's baki so maybe yeah, still first time is Definitely hard as hell especially the fact 99% percent of students di-ed while trying to learn the advance

    • @bakugoboom1530
      @bakugoboom1530 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He couldn't removal can't be learned it's genetic like the demon back now possessed by a god can be learned

    • @RoyalKnight07.
      @RoyalKnight07. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He would go apeshit crazy after a few seconds like Lu Tian did. Even though baki is a prodigy and has insane genetics. Only Wu and Kure can use removal without drawbacks

  • @UnOc2
    @UnOc2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It always frustrates me when people say Baki is a vastly more powerful verse than Kengan. Like, sure, the top tiers are slightly stronger in Baki, but not by a stomping degree. Even back in Ashura, characters like Wakatsuki and Julius were shaking a mountain with a clash.

  • @trav1325
    @trav1325 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most of Baki feats are just ridiculous anime feats it’s not even fighting or technique it’s just ridiculous

  • @XennaShieldOP-pu6le
    @XennaShieldOP-pu6le 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Garouden Tiger King solos both

  • @darajabar93
    @darajabar93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shen Wulong has 0% chance of winning against Yujiro
    Shen Wulong has about 30% chance of winning against high tier characters like Baki, Musashi, Hanayama (probably), current Pickle (most likely) and Jack Hanma.
    Shen Wulong has about 50% chance of winning against the tier 2 characters like current Katsumi, Oliva, Kaku, Sukune
    Shen Wulong has about 80% chance of winning against the tier 3 characters, such as Doppo, Shibukawa, Retsu
    Shen Wulong has 100% chance of winning against anyone lower than tier 3 characters, such as the OLD prisoners, Ali Jr, Kato, Sanada, etc.

    • @flappyflap2693
      @flappyflap2693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this mf made the same exact comment TWICE and STILL didn't back it up with anything.

  • @YamiJigengiri
    @YamiJigengiri 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ohma get nerfed

  • @floatingcloud94
    @floatingcloud94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s canon n people forget some points why Kengan characters were nerfed beyond imagination while Baki characters were used after Baki vs Yujiro which was after the Max tournament , Ali jr. Arc , Raitai tournament , Prisoners arc , Baki vs Olivia arc, Pickle arc and Baki vs Yujiro arc 🤣🤣🤣where as Kengan characters were used from right after Kengan ashura tournament.
    1. Kengan omega which takes place 3-5 years after Kengan annihilation-tournament, all characters were friggin strong n there were literal monsteras like Fei and Edward ..n if Fei or Edward fought a one vs all against Kengan ashura characters they would easily win..n all characters became way stronger in Kengan ashura purgatory arc
    2. The next arc of the worms which took places 6-10 years after purgatory arc ..everyone is way stronger n even the weakest of the characters can easily beat 99% of the old Kengan ashura characters..n monsters like Gaoh, Gilbert and None other than the connector r introduced. N mind u, everyone is way way stronger than purgatory arc since worm arc was after 6-10 years after purgatory arc which was like 3-5 years after Kengan annihilation arc.
    3. Current kuroki can’t beat Yujiro but Shen will most prolly stalemate or beat Yujiro ..
    Unlike Yujiro who only fighters fighters who have fought and got damaged from fights or their only fight with an opponent who is 100% like Yujiro vs Gaia , Yujiro vs Baki or Yujiro vs Doppo or Yujiro vs thag Chinese both kiaoh…n yes Yujiro holds back..whereas Connevtor is so strong he not only holds back but restrict and lowers the entire function of his biological body’s function to limit his strength , speed and movement on similar parts with his opponent (Gaoh) who was so friggin strong n taught Ohma’s master and ohma in the worm arc who is one of the strongest fighter saw Gaoh as a monster enough not to bother having anything to do with him…n Shen is so strong his only goal is to have an equal which happens to b his other persona in his mind for which he wants a clone body of his to transfer his mind to fight another equal , and even surprising is him teaching his enemies and making them much stronger to kill him n letting them knw his weakness as well..
    3. Also here the Kengan ashura version of ohma didn’t use superior version of his possessing spirit , advance or demon’s bane ..n Raiain saw jack who is the developed verisoion from the arc Baki vs Yujiro …Raian saw Jack as a toy ..exciting enough to release his form but not to use any technique .

  • @historyking9984
    @historyking9984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d say Baki takes it mid difficulty. Ohma’s way more varied than Baki with his Kata’s .He’s also got more grappling skills with his water kata. He’s got foresight on a pretty good level. He’s mastered demonsbane to the point it’s not a huge risk of failing like before.Kure techniques allow him to go close range. And for defense he’s got going limp and indestructible. He’s got tons of powerful moves like Ironbreaker revolution , change of scenery,jellyfish hold,and more to damage Baki. And demonsbane is a huge turn around. His use of advance boost his speed and make him unpredictable. Though the insane boost from his teachings from Shen could make a difference as they made his Ironbreaker several times stronger. But he hasn’t mastered that and we’ve only seen it applied to his Ironbreaker. If in the future he can learn to boost all his skills the same way and learn from kuroki how to counter like Kuroki did shen then it could become a high difficulty fight .

  • @villain9482
    @villain9482 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    idk bout yall, but Tokita currently should landslide baki right now.

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

  • @hallownest_feats
    @hallownest_feats 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @user-eg5mn5ov9p
    @user-eg5mn5ov9p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In my opinion Kengan Ashura Ohma < Baki (Current) Mid Diff
    Kengan Omega Ohma > Baki (Current) Mid - High diff

  • @mr.invincible
    @mr.invincible 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lightspeed wtf, dude this baki manga is getting senseless.

    • @flappyflap2693
      @flappyflap2693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i dunno how they have serious arguments with baki characters going against another character cause the show is already far beyond realistic marital arts

  • @LegendGamer-kv1fx
    @LegendGamer-kv1fx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First to comment!

    • @kayo118282
      @kayo118282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dont think u made it fam

  • @SeveredEverlastingWorldLore
    @SeveredEverlastingWorldLore 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Baki can't beat Goku though.

    • @thefirstprime0124
      @thefirstprime0124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean head but with Skill id still give it to goku tho but they'll definitely go at it

  • @ssheeessh
    @ssheeessh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You really lose credibility by believing in lightspeed feats.
    There's a good reason Katsumi totally destroyed his arm using the mach punch lmao.
    If you looked up what something with the mass of a human hand would to do someone if it was moving at the speed of light...
    According to you, now Mushashi has such an insane durability feat that nothing should have been able to harm him - as the punch should have turned him into dust.
    It's hyperbole. Don't sound like some cringe 11 year old powerscaler.

    • @cyberfire1011
      @cyberfire1011 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Womp womp

    • @RoyalKnight07.
      @RoyalKnight07. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Being lightspeed should destroy literally anything if we go by real life logic. Actually, destroy is an understatement, it would turn into atoms. But afterall this is fiction so whatever. Im still surprised katsumi's arms exploded after going hypsersonic even after all the bs baki had done before.

    • @thomasthecoolkid7228
      @thomasthecoolkid7228 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He literally said that the lightspeed punch is probably hyperbole and they cap out at mach something
      Also, what wrecked Katsumi was the mach punch being combined with his imaginary extra joints

    • @ssheeessh
      @ssheeessh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@thomasthecoolkid7228 Right and then after that he goes off on a tangent to explain why it isn't hyperbole. Watch the video

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro did not watch the video

  • @xavier956
    @xavier956 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Baki copy cut player no self style compare to ohma

  • @alphaff8903
    @alphaff8903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Baki story is 💩

    • @villain9482
      @villain9482 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      i just wanna find who asked.

    • @ammonaustin9081
      @ammonaustin9081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@villain9482
      No one has to ask lmfao. Yall don't know how TH-cam works

    • @223sfa6
      @223sfa6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      kengan story is kinda trash too i watch them for the fights not the story cuz its ass

    • @a_guy_in_the_internet
      @a_guy_in_the_internet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@223sfa6i might agree on omega
      but ashura hell no that's a masterpiece
      Also most kengan characters are really great, in baki the hanmas is really what carries the show (really carries them tho, like yujiro and baki are just so goated)

    • @villain9482
      @villain9482 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@223sfa6 ashura was a legit masterpiece what lmfao