Although I understand why the ex boyfriend was the main suspect it still does not take away from the fact that it's got to be a miserable way to be treated as though you are guilty instead of the innocence you deserve for so many years. However, I like the fact of how this show touched on the fact that DNA forensics is not a foolproof technique. Who knows? Maybe they got the wrong guy. It wouldn't be the first time.
He was the same person through all those years, pre & post being her father. Also, it should be noted that I have an IQ of 360, so I can assure you that I'm right. 👍🍻
Amazing how the family of the defendant will not believe the DNA evidence, but I'm sure if the tables were turned and he was the victim, they'd completely trust the DNA
Men back then really never expressed emotions so he probably didn't tell his son, maybe he figured he'd know but it's always good to share how you feel, you can see just how much that meant to him.
The family is in denial because they've never seen that side of their father. His reaction was not one of anger when confronted by the detective. He feels exactly what he said, that he won because he got to spend all those years as a free man with his family. Spoken like a true psychopath.
@@jeremysmith9694 The defense did make it sound ridiculous that he would have left his family at night, went to the mall killed her and went back home covered in blood and probably cut too, but i don't think DNA lies so he must have done it. But why?
@@tamitribbiani7907 it does sound ridiculous I agree. But a lot of murders sound ridiculous. So many seem like people that never would. People said the same about Ted Bundy. Or if you saw the Canadian military officer who snuck into women's homes. Doesn't seem like the type of guy to do it at all. Some people have urges they never control or suppress. Who knows.
Psychopathy and sociopathy are a lot more common than people think. These people don't have a conscience so it wouldn't be hard to just carry on with their own lives after devastating other people's.
@user-mb1ko8tb6v true, they have no conscience. I knew a man who killed and assaulted some guys. When he tells the story, he's proud of what he'd done.
I was a grade behind Michelle at Kennedy H.S. when this happened. And 44 years later I still remember how shocked the whole school was. I attended the trial and took great satisfaction when this was solved.
Wow the DNA sketch was impressive. Amazing. Thank God, for we are fearfully and wonderfully made! Everyone born is selected and has a purpose. Live wisely and be grateful for the life God gave you.
you know what I though? Maybe he hired this dude? I would have checke the realationshipt between the boyfriend and the killer, becasue it does seem so random. that almost never happens or these people are serial killers... idk
@shipitplease99999 Yeah you sound a bit hateful with your remarks about people’s looks. Resentment is not a way to go through life. You can always talk to professionals if you’re unhappy. ☺️
We all understand that touch DNA can be misleading at times but we're not talking about a skin particle or a strand of hair from accidentally brushing past her in the mall, it's his literal blood discovered twice at the crime scene.
Normal climatic conditions are not critical for the long time survival of DNA in untreated blood stains. Instead of typing replies that cast doubt on proven scientific methods(and also on the whole judicial system, because would a judge accept evidence that is not exactly of good quality) try to Google and learn more about DNA sampling and how it works. @elenabob4953
Blood that wasn't preserved to avoid contamination ( because they didn't knew that it will be a thing in the future) and it was older than 20 years when they got the PARTIAL DNA profie.
There's a lot of people out there with no criminal records that have gotten away with things their whole lives and never been caught. What frightens me is how many other girls did he do this to? So many unsolved cases, so many bodies that are never found and never even investigated.
even in Germany the docters now complain that there's not enough autopsies being conducted and they estimated half of the murders are mislabeled as natural causes..
Oh..they will get caught..believe me. Here on earth maybe not..but in Eternity..yes. we all be facing the Man Upstairs,for eternal life in Christ or Condemnation depending in what terms we leave this earth.
My mom was friends with Michelle in middle school. She told me this story when I was growing up but they didn’t know who had done it. Rest in peace, Michelle ❤
I guess if you're simple-minded, you might think you have to have DNA explained, but most people know what it is nowadays. They know if they leave spit, sweat, or blood, there is DNA. @robyndendy
I guess the Buick dealership back then was just selling cars with blood stains in them like it’s no big deal, and people were totally fine with touching something like gear shift that’s used every single time when they’re driving the car with blood stain on it lol
She wasnt. He tried it again 3 years later to me. And I reported it more than once. Try 5 times. And CRPD ignored me. So they sit here and LIE . And there was a girl abducted and taken to Ellis park in the same time frame and had her pants cut off with an exacto knife.
Dude says that his brother could not have possibly been the murderer because he was "always there for his family" and the daughter says that she cannot remember what she did yesterday so how would her dad remember that he killed someone. Duhhh, that's all they could come up with? 😬
I wonder if she had pets growing up or if they disappeared. All the kids want to see them as their heroes until they really think hard about certain things then they see things they missed out of blind love. He was a smart man of course he never allowed them to see him that violent.
I love that technology is helping bring to justice all the monsters who got away with their crimes for years. And thanks to all the detectives who speak for the victims.
I love the technology too! But, in this particular case I think the jury got it wrong. There was absolutely zero ties to the victim. A very old DNA sample rendered an innocent man guilty. And that's a shame
People never cease to amaze me. Every human being is capable of doing horrific things. People don’t seem to understand that no matter how close you are to someone, you don’t truly know them. Just because you love someone & they put on a good show, doesn’t mean they’re incapable of committing heinous atrocities!
people are no different from dogs, they can snap at any moment if they were not raised by decent and mentally healthy folk.. so many triggers are planted in early childhood.
@@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970 What a great explanation!! That’s so true & very profound. Daily, I thank God for this endless, free information that we have access to. I wish more people would use it to gain access to the free help, and put in the work to overcome their trauma. Hope you have a great day Esmeralda, & I sincerely thank you for your response. 🙏🏾
His family is in denial. The DNA evidence was strong. It wasn’t picked up in the mall, it wasn’t from the dealership. The killer’s comment that “at least he got to live and see his family” was his way of tormenting her family, letting them know he did it and poking the wound of her death. We’re all safer with that man locked up.
That was weird and I don't really think that was said by mistake.I wouldn't really be surpised if he was connected to Jodi Huisetruit or some other case.
Yeah if he was involved in the Jodi Huisentruit case then he’s got a type and investigators should probably check for other cases involving blonde women around that time…
Right it's so dumb that people still try to use this as a point of innocence it's been proven time and time again that even the most normal looking can have skeletons in their closets
This totally pisses me off. The person who murdered Michelle tried it again 3 years later in almost the same spot in the parking lot. I know. I'm the person it happened to. So I called police at the time. The perp got away. But, every single time they asked for leads in Michelle's case, I called them. And they would tell me, "Oh no, it's not the same person." Flash forward to the day they arrested the murderer. And I see him on tv. And guess what? It was the same guy, only older. And had the police taken me seriously any of the FIVE times I contacted them in the FORTY YEARS they allegedly were working to solve this case, it probably would not have taken so long. This guy pretended to be a JC Penny employee. I walked through Pennys to go to a shoe store, and walked through on my way out. Where the creep followed me out of the store and into the parking lot. I became aware of him and ran to a group of shoppers. That is when he told them he was a store employee and I had stolen vacuum cleaner bags, and I needed to come with him. They agreed to go in the store with me, and he fled. We called police and nothing ever happened. I reported this man every time they asked for leads. They ignored me. And it was him all along.
@@bushmonster1702 It also shows that our police department in Cedar Rapids is a bunch of bungling idiots who cant solve a crime even when people come forward with information. If you ask me, they didn't really want to solve this case. If they were serious, they wouldn't have dismissed me like an over imaginative child. 5 times!! I will never forgive them, and I hope Michelle's family doesn't either. Because had the police taken me seriously, her parents would not have died not knowing who killed their daughter.
I think you should nevertheless contact the new investigators again, because he might at some point try to get a retrial and your information would be very valuable. Glad you’re well ☺️
You overestimate the DNA match. The sample was 20 years old and it wasn't properly preserved from contaminations because they didn't knew what technologies will be found in the future. The sample could give you only a small part and not the full individual genome. Based on that small part you could have 20 people or more in a city that fit. Ahh yes, reconstructing the face from a sample it isn't something that the science could do because you only have the outlines not the details nevertheless the plice present it as clear evidence. His answer with "I don't know how my DNA got there" just to haveminth later after many interigations "maybe was due to Y" was the standard behavior described by many behavior experts today (fact that wasn't known when he was interrogated)
@@JennyBrie2006 Yeah, because this is just the internet and we should believe the stories of anyone on the internet simply named Bob Smith 🙄 The internet. The place where people say anything and people believe everything.
Showing her ex the crime scene photos when he wasn't even a serious suspect is horrible. Giving a young man PTSD with graphic photos of a girl he dated being stabbed- that's so horrible. Through all this the police didn't try very hard at all.
They went with what they had. This was a random crime between strangers, the hardest to solve. Her DNA made the only difference in solving this case. They had no leads.
When Jamie told investor Matt that his dad (a prior case investigator also) was very proud of him & Matt had to stop the interview, just WOW! Imagine pretty much Matt’s entire life was at least partly consumed by this, think he was 4 when it happened? So going through school, college, law enforcement training etc, marriage, kids .. this horror show always in the back of his mind. _DREAMING_ about someday solving this case & still being able to tell his dad .. & it’s come full circle! Geez in less than an hour *_i_* am bursting with pride for Matt, his dad must be _OVER THE MOON!_ Great story, thanks for sharing! 🤟🏼🕊️💕
Yes, both he and his father are such righteous and dedicated ppl. I too teared when he teared up. He has a such pure and good energy. On the other hand, I could immediately identify Jerry as the murderer out of the 3 brothers. He doesn’t pass the vibe check.
No one wants a violent killer in their family. I think it's common for family members to be in denial because maybe even subconsciously they think it reflects upon them
I agree. Everyone in the comments calling them disgusting but they aren’t in their shoes. It’s her father and his brother. It’s going to take a lot of therapy for them both. I’m sure he’s manipulating them too
It does reflect upon them. Thats not fair, but it does. Thats not the real reason though. If you know someone, or think you do, like we all do think, its just unimaginable and for family loyalty also kicks in.
@@WatchTashi I agree. I think there are definitely more victims out there. Starting with Judi Huisentruit. Why would he bring her name up if not. This guy is CREEPY!!!!!!
Why do people think being a busnessman or having children makes you respectable? There are plenty of crooked businessmen and plenty of bad parents. Come on,people.
It makes people feel unsafe that killers can integrate into society and lead a culturally normal life, that they would be easier to avoid if they stuck out.
Everyone is capable of it with enough increasingly bad choices. That’s why choosing well and seeking to do good continually really is so important for all people.
I think he saw a crime of opportunity. He probably kept gloves and knives in his vehicle. She was parked too far, it was dark, and he took a shot. I wouldn't doubt there are other deaths in his wake. His cousin Brian disappeared (coincidentally on the same date of 12/19) in 2013, and 5 years before Jerry's arrest and his first wife supposedly died of suicide.
The reporter went missing and never found. His causin also went missing never found. And his wife committed suicide. All these three deaths happened in the 2000s. All in Iowa.
I get it. Its her father. But I personally would have a hard time believing my dad could do something like this too. My father my kids. I would still love them. But never forgive them.
Michelle probably did something garnering a photo in the local newspaper, or maybe even a quick human interest story on the news, and is why she was a victim. He may have been targeting young blonde women who were higher profile, "famous" or well known in his mind, like the reporter. Maybe he was rejected by a successful blonde, or his own mother, when he was younger.
Spontaneous utterance. Almost like he’s challenging the police to catch him in that one. Dont these guys think they’re smarter than police? Technically if he did do that one too, then he did ‘win’ since they haven’t been able to pin it on him.
I was a year ahead of Michelle in High School at Kennedy. I remember her well. She did stand out especially w/her blonde hairstyle. It was a terrible shock when she was killed.
The son fighting back tears b/c his father is proud of him (at around 38:00) made my eyes well up too. You’re a hero if you get justice for a grieving family.
Was it his blood or a DNA contamination due to the fact that the sample was improperly preserved from contamination for 20 years? Don't forget that what they could have from this sample is a partial profile that could correspond to many other people.
@@elenabob4953why are you making nonsensical comments? Did you participate in the investigation? Are you related to the defendant? You’re protesting way too much, dude. Do you know something the investigators missed?
Well you see he happened to be wearing the dress while working on the car when he got a nose bleed and those two things happened to both be at the same crime scene years later. Makes perfect sense.
Yeah I mean how much more should the police force be defunded?! These dna tests cost thousands of dollars and most cases are waiting on the back burner for ages to be solved. So much more money should go into this, imo.
Could be a possible serial killer? That amount of violence and going prepared with gloves and knife. The blood evidence was there not touch DNA. RIP Michele 🙏
Every criminal has FIRST crime. It drives me nuts when they say, he had no criminal record. SO WHAT? Every criminal has a point in time when they commit their first crime. It may ALSO be the LAST crime they commit.
It was so sad that her parents both died thinking that the wrong person killed their daughter. That wasn’t justice at all for them. They died and never got justice
More than that, imagine his own parents. Having to lead a life, where your own parents think you are a murderer, i cant even imagine his suffering. Michelle's suffering lasted just may be 10-15 minutes. But that poor guy suffered his whole life.
@@indianfan1029everything you said was correct until you brought how long she suffered into this, that shouldn’t even be in this comment. Their sufferings are not comparable.
Scumbag jerry DID win by being out with his family for this long. But the fact that he never suffered remorse, pain and regret about what he did says more about him than anything
This happened in my hometown. People were always sad about her. Most people remember this all these years later even before it was solved. It was just hard to believe something like that could happen in cedar rapids at that time. That poor girl💔
The defense lawyer was like "DNA is not a sole indicator of a crime". But if was defending a case that that had no DNA found, he would be like "there is no DNA found in the crime scene" defense.
@@kenyattaclay7666no they don‘t. prosecutors only use DNA evidence when they have some. lawyers discredit evidence when there is and take it in favor when there is too.
The fact that was a 20years not properly preserved sample and that the analysis had only one small part if the genome that is the same part as at least 20 other people living in that city it really makes me wonder if they really got the killer.
Yeah, advances that also gives you the face based on a small sample and not the full genome, from a sample that wasn't property preserved for 20 years because at that time. Sure, sure.
I never believe them when they claim they've blocked memories. Victims of crimes - yes, I'm sure they genuinely do block memories, it's the brain's way of protecting us. The perpetrators of the crimes though - na, they remember every second of it. Denying memory is their way to both keep those memories sacred for themselves, and also so that they don't have take ownership of that behaviour.
I don't think blocked memories actually happen, in that case it would be forgotten memories but then I don't think it's possible to forget something like this.
@@teijaflink2226 blocked memories, or rather repressed memories, are definitely a thing if you experienced trauma in childhood and your brain isnt mature enough to process what happened, so the brain, in an act of self preservation, rejects the event altogether. In terms of committing a crime though? No way. What sociopaths can and often will do is compartmentalize the event, easily carrying on with their life and activities without it bothering them.
It’s very traumatic when you see a love one in a casket! I had a big panic attack when I saw my daughter, to me she was not supposed to be in casket, I’m haunted today from that site! & have post traumatic stress syndrome
In regards to the motive.. It’s possible he saw her at the mall, became obsessed with her because she was striking, tried to mingle with her, she refused/rejected him and he followed her to her car.
@AbbeyOnAtkins He could have all these in his car. He drove 2 hours from his hometown so that he couldn’t be identified easily. Why would you commit crime in your own neighborhood and risk having witnesses who can identify you straightaway.
I doubt if he ever hit on her. He was what, in his thirties by then? He probably hated pretty blondes who may have rejected him in his own teenage years and wanted to act out the fantasy of taking what he could never get with consent.
I'll never understand why people try and use family and faith as a good reason someone wouldn't do something horrendous. Oh and if they don't have a previous criminal record. Let's be honest, there's PLENTY of people that don't have a criminal record. So what does that even mean as a reason to try and shift blame?
What a beautiful angel..!!!! She would be 62 years old if she was alive.. Very sad to think that one man's psycho thoughts ended a life and her rights to live, marry, have a child..be a grandma... Everything.
Maybe she would not have wanted to get married and have kids? Why don’t people ever say “she could have owned a company, discovered a cure, or invented something spectacular”…women want more out of life than just a family.
@@genx-odus5678 Partially you are right but being a same age girl i think at the end of the day we all want a beautiful family.. She had a boyfriend.. So she had those feelings.
@@Shriyashri24 "All"? I do not. We do not all want a beautiful family. I had a boyfriend when I was younger and found that I had wanted more out of life than what the "script" society has written for women. We fought too hard for our rights to still merely just be thought of as family makers...
He may recall cos it happened during the same time same city and both victims are blondes and discussions jave down rounds...if he was not convicted the statemnt will seem perfectly fine
@@lunatic5162 Well two possible reasons; one, he did it and he thought thats what the detective was there about, or he just named her as an example of a woman in Iowa who he remembered was murdered and her killer never found. If its the latter, he was hoping that whoever killed Jodi was also the suspect in Michelle's to take the heat off him.
I just have so much appreciation for the Detective that took over his fathers Case and solved it. What a hero. He himself knows the amazing job he had done and to hear the clarification from your father who was once on the same case, Must be the utter most appreciated feeling. God worked through this detective. God bless all families in this case.
Shouldn't god work to prevent murders from happening in the first place? Why does he wait until a person is killed to work through a detective? And why are so many murders (innocent child victims for example) unsolved? How does he choose which detective he works through and which case to ignore? Seems quite random and sadistic to me.
It wasn't god. All the hard work, years of looking for a suspect, checking new leads... it was ONLY because of these persistent detectives that we know the culprit.
Talking to him now, he seems like a mild-mannered old guy but you have to look at when he was younger. They are asking why would he leave his wife and children to drive to the mall... because that is where there are multiple people that he could choose as victims. Serial killers have been leaving their wives to go and prowl as long as there have been serial killers. But if his DNA was on multiple areas including the car the no way was that transfer from her picking it up at the mall.
Exactly. That poor guy might have had a hard time letting go, and the brother in law not liking him and seeing him as a pest would have shaped their conviction that he did it. But that said, if he WAS harassing her and refusing to accept the relationship was over, and then she turns up dead, can you blame the family for thinking what they did?
I wish all the investigators like Delinger who are so passionate about their job. It was really touching at the end when he was told that how his father is so proud of him.
if the DNA had come back to some Russian guy who had never been to the States then I would say it was faulty. But what are the chances of it identifying someone who lived and frequented the mall? AND the DNA was also on her dress not just the gear shift. This is a terrifying predator. He killed cause he wanted to and stopped at will as well.
AND it wasn't just some transfer DNA, it was his blood. While interviewed, he also mentioned that missing reporter. A woman looking very similar to Michelle. I hope her case is being investigated.
I have so much respect for him after listening to him for just a couple minutes. I teared up. He seems to have a deep respect for justice and that's admirable. I'm grateful for people like him.
1979 I was 16 it’s my favourite year I’m 61 now what a Tragedy for this young girl and her poor family and friends . I hope that we get a chance to live again and that she lives the life that she deserves X ❤
Even faced with indisputable physical evidence, his family still denies. Cut from the same criminal cloth? Maybe. Or just delusional. Either way, I’m glad this monster will finally be put away for the rest of his life.
With a crime that horrific its not hard to believe he has other victims. This guy is obviously a predator. This seems like an attempted rape gone wrong she fought back and he killed her in rage. So sick that he boasted about getting to live his life for so long... 😡
He worked in a car dealership and his blood just happened to get on the car and dress🙄 His family is disgusting for being in denial and thinking he’s innocent.I mean, makes sense. They share the same blood.
I don’t think they are disgusting. They have never seen that side of him. It’s their brother and father. You don’t want to believe that they’ve been going about a relationship for a lot their entire lives and he’s been a killer all along. They want to find a reason behind it cause it’s so hard to believe. The only evidence is two small amounts of blood. Which I think is enough but I can see how they are trying to find something to clear him. I’m sure he’s lying and manipulating them a lot too.
@@Findpepperbridge I feel that it is unfair of the author of this post to label the family 'disgusting ' it has to be shocking and like you said they are trying to the reasons of why he would do such a thing. I know me personally, my feelings would be confusing and hard like I would feel terrible for the family and sorry they suffered such a loss but he's still my father and he'd be connected to my heart. I wouldn't just denounce him or bad mouth him or leave him to burn at the stake. But then I wouldn't be supportive of what he did ( not saying they are) but it's really confusing feelings.
And it's happened exactlly on car She happened to use it I am not DNA expert but DNA just not flying around ,is it? He must touch the car,he must be inside in the car ,and also his DNA on her dress She was beautiful young woman
May be his DNA got mixed in the blood and they found his DNA instead of the killers since the killer was wearing gloves and could it have been her blood mixed with his DNA not his blood.
I used to work at WestDale Mall before they tore it down. We used to say the halls were hunted by her ghost waiting for justice to be served. So glad he was caught, it was a long time coming.
After the guilty verdict the way he just stood up like ' well, that's that ' tells you he did it. If he was innocent you'd think he would have shouted & went nuts, but he didn't do any of that.
yes you are absolutly right! i was thinking the same way. if was really innocent you have to show some injustice or angry but he did not. he just get caught...
He could've raised reasonable doubt if he admitted he had interacted with her at her car. There were no witnesses. He could've said her battery was dead and he gave her a jump, cutting his hand while opening her hood. Hopping in and getting it started for her. Then driving off thinking nothing of it. Except for this weird looking dude lingering not far away, watching them. But to just deny, deny, deny, with no explanation for his blood in her car and on her dress sealed his fate. Now, he's where he deserves to be.
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I was born 17.12.1961 .. this case has shook me to the core..my parents would’ve died of the news if that was me ..RIP Michelle London England 🏴
Hey why havent you put any mention of any of those people speaking in the video? I mean who the hell are theý?? Please do better
Although I understand why the ex boyfriend was the main suspect it still does not take away from the fact that it's got to be a miserable way to be treated as though you are guilty instead of the innocence you deserve for so many years. However, I like the fact of how this show touched on the fact that DNA forensics is not a foolproof technique. Who knows? Maybe they got the wrong guy. It wouldn't be the first time.
I can watch these programs all day
No matter your age, hearing your father is proud of you will bring tears to your eyes.
Facts :)
yep
Yeah, that was sweet 🥹
That he got choked up, it brought a tear to my eye. ❤
Facts 💯
The daughter says there's no way her "dad could have done this". Maybe her dad didn't, but the man he was before becoming her dad DEFINITELY did!
Well said
Man I hope she comes back to life
He was her dad then too
@michellem.m.1477 What? The sister wasn't even born when this happened.
He was the same person through all those years, pre & post being her father. Also, it should be noted that I have an IQ of 360, so I can assure you that I'm right. 👍🍻
Amazing how the family of the defendant will not believe the DNA evidence, but I'm sure if the tables were turned and he was the victim, they'd completely trust the DNA
You know it!
i wasn't the defendants family who didn't believe the DNA, it was Michelle's sister who did. The DNA didn't match.
@@Ibalistic_hedge--- no, you're actually mistaken, at 31:39 that is the Burns family. (the relatives of the killer)
@@Ibalistic_hedge Have you even watched the episode lol?........where the hell did you get the fact it "didn't match"
@@Ibalistic_hedge you either don't understand English or you definitely didn't watch the video.
The son’s reaction to his father being proud of him. Priceless! Fathers matter!
Thousands of little kids were killed in Gaza recently .. No 48 hours about that ..
Him tearing up when she told him his dad said how proud of him he was! 😭
Men back then really never expressed emotions so he probably didn't tell his son, maybe he figured he'd know but it's always good to share how you feel, you can see just how much that meant to him.
Yup ❤
Found myself tearing up too 🥲 it was such a sweet moment
The family is in denial because they've never seen that side of their father. His reaction was not one of anger when confronted by the detective. He feels exactly what he said, that he won because he got to spend all those years as a free man with his family. Spoken like a true psychopath.
I'm sure it's a very difficult thing to admit your father did that when you've never seen anything point to the fact.
If you watch "Evil Lives Here", lots of family members always struggle to accept the evil doings of their mothers, fathers, and family members.
@@jeremysmith9694 The defense did make it sound ridiculous that he would have left his family at night, went to the mall killed her and went back home covered in blood and probably cut too, but i don't think DNA lies so he must have done it. But why?
@@tamitribbiani7907 it does sound ridiculous I agree. But a lot of murders sound ridiculous. So many seem like people that never would. People said the same about Ted Bundy. Or if you saw the Canadian military officer who snuck into women's homes. Doesn't seem like the type of guy to do it at all. Some people have urges they never control or suppress. Who knows.
@@jeremysmith9694 I guess we'll probably never know why he did it.
It always amazes me how these monsters commit such heinous acts and just move on with their lives as if nothing happened.
Yes indeed. Same thing happens with lots of sexual assaults.
Psychopathy and sociopathy are a lot more common than people think. These people don't have a conscience so it wouldn't be hard to just carry on with their own lives after devastating other people's.
@@SSSSSSSSS-u9g There's not only psychopathy and sociopathy, there are many more disorders.
@user-mb1ko8tb6v true, they have no conscience. I knew a man who killed and assaulted some guys. When he tells the story, he's proud of what he'd done.
He probably thought 40 years has Gone by. They will never catch me
I was a grade behind Michelle at Kennedy H.S. when this happened. And 44 years later I still remember how shocked the whole school was. I attended the trial and took great satisfaction when this was solved.
What were peoples feelings towards her ex? What were students saying?
I was 8yrs old
It’s terrible and the first time I’ve heard of the case..That poor girl, such a waste of a beautiful life..
Wow the DNA sketch was impressive. Amazing. Thank God, for we are fearfully and wonderfully made! Everyone born is selected and has a purpose. Live wisely and be grateful for the life God gave you.
LIAR😂
The ex boyfriend is also a victim of this crime; he lived under a cloud of suspicion for decades until the crime was solved.
Absolutely. I hope his parents or other family members never thought that he did it.
you know what I though? Maybe he hired this dude? I would have checke the realationshipt between the boyfriend and the killer, becasue it does seem so random. that almost never happens or these people are serial killers... idk
Yes..I felt bad for him
Dude was a mean domineering control freak, a little suspicion against him was earned. He never did time so I don't feel sorry for him at all.
Well it was his domineering and controlling jealousy toward her that placed him in slot one… just sayin. Those are USUALLY the nutcase killers.
The man tearing up after hearing his dad is proud of him is so heartwarming❤😢
Michelle's sister & her husband are the loveliest, most genuine people. I liked them both instantly. What a tragedy for their family.
Michelle and her sister both look so beautiful. Sigh, a lot of ppl have their lives cut short..
How people act on the outside might be different on inside
@shipitplease99999 Yeah you sound a bit hateful with your remarks about people’s looks. Resentment is not a way to go through life. You can always talk to professionals if you’re unhappy. ☺️
We all understand that touch DNA can be misleading at times but we're not talking about a skin particle or a strand of hair from accidentally brushing past her in the mall, it's his literal blood discovered twice at the crime scene.
What reliability could have a 20 years sample that wasn't properly preserved from DNA contamination?
Normal climatic conditions are not critical for the long time survival of DNA in untreated blood stains. Instead of typing replies that cast doubt on proven scientific methods(and also on the whole judicial system, because would a judge accept evidence that is not exactly of good quality) try to Google and learn more about DNA sampling and how it works. @elenabob4953
Exactly. It's the two instances that seals the deal.
@@elenabob4953how was it not properly preserved?
Those were my thoughts exactly!
THEY DIDNT JUST FIND DNA, THEY FOUND BLOOD!
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Blood that wasn't preserved to avoid contamination ( because they didn't knew that it will be a thing in the future) and it was older than 20 years when they got the PARTIAL DNA profie.
@@elenabob4953you sound like you know a lot about DNA. Can you tell us what you mean with those factors you mentioned? Thank you!
@@elenabob4953 You must be related to the killer or working for him. You're all over the comment section trying to insert doubt into this case.
@@elenabob4953 Its impossible to explain away the blood on the blinker lever. and also on the dress. He did it.The jury got it right!
There's a lot of people out there with no criminal records that have gotten away with things their whole lives and never been caught. What frightens me is how many other girls did he do this to? So many unsolved cases, so many bodies that are never found and never even investigated.
even in Germany the docters now complain that there's not enough autopsies being conducted and they estimated half of the murders are mislabeled as natural causes..
Oh..they will get caught..believe me. Here on earth maybe not..but in Eternity..yes. we all be facing the Man Upstairs,for eternal life in Christ or Condemnation depending in what terms we leave this earth.
@@dan1769 💯
Specially cops
My mom was friends with Michelle in middle school. She told me this story when I was growing up but they didn’t know who had done it. Rest in peace, Michelle ❤
The excuses being used by the family to try and justify how his blood got onto that gear stick and her dress are just ridiculous and delusional.
Agreed they should have asked how his blood got there not his DNA. There’s a big difference
Agreed
@@robyndendyexactly
I guess if you're simple-minded, you might think you have to have DNA explained, but most people know what it is nowadays. They know if they leave spit, sweat, or blood, there is DNA. @robyndendy
I guess the Buick dealership back then was just selling cars with blood stains in them like it’s no big deal, and people were totally fine with touching something like gear shift that’s used every single time when they’re driving the car with blood stain on it lol
44 years ago today, Michelle was taken away from her family.
Rest In Peace Michelle 🕊️
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She was a beautiful girl! ❤😊
As sad as it is. People died everyday
@@shipitplease99999 They do and some people have empathy which they're allowed to do. You don't need to come in here and invalidate that.
I believe she was not the only victim.
She wasnt. He tried it again 3 years later to me. And I reported it more than once. Try 5 times. And CRPD ignored me. So they sit here and LIE . And there was a girl abducted and taken to Ellis park in the same time frame and had her pants cut off with an exacto knife.
His cousin went missing Dec. 19th 2013. His wife died in 2008. He could be involved in those and Jodi, for sure!!
I@@cL-nr8ks
I have wondered if he was also responsible for Jodi Huisentruit
I also believe that.
Based on? your feelings or maybe a dream you had? 🙄
Dude says that his brother could not have possibly been the murderer because he was "always there for his family" and the daughter says that she cannot remember what she did yesterday so how would her dad remember that he killed someone. Duhhh, that's all they could come up with? 😬
I wonder if she had pets growing up or if they disappeared. All the kids want to see them as their heroes until they really think hard about certain things then they see things they missed out of blind love. He was a smart man of course he never allowed them to see him that violent.
I was looking for this comment... Especially the daughter's part!
He didn't seem surprised. It's like he knew this day would come one day.
I thought the same exact thing! It was as though he was resigned to it… like he was waiting for this day to come.
I love that technology is helping bring to justice all the monsters who got away with their crimes for years. And thanks to all the detectives who speak for the victims.
I love the technology too! But, in this particular case I think the jury got it wrong.
There was absolutely zero ties to the victim. A very old DNA sample rendered an innocent man guilty. And that's a shame
@@kevincosma7945, I agree. The masses are so ignorant and easy to fool. That's upsetting.
@@kevincosma7945.. and the detective looks more like the sketch drawing than the man he arrested 🤦♂️
@@kevincosma7945 ever heard of a random act of violence?
@@bobbyswain7049ever heard of “pre-test probability”? The likelihood of the verdict being correct in this case is extremely low.
I wish Andy got a better apology because it has to be hard living with people side eyeing you all your life.
For 40 years no less! Can’t imagine the pressure and stigma. Poor Andy!
I wish I could recall her name, hope it isn't disrespectful that I can't recall.
40 years living in this type of suspicion. Unreal.
You can see the sadness in his eyes
Genetic geneolgy dna has criminals living in fear of that knock on the door..it’s a great thing..
That detective did his dad proud. Good job. RIP Michelle.
People never cease to amaze me. Every human being is capable of doing horrific things. People don’t seem to understand that no matter how close you are to someone, you don’t truly know them. Just because you love someone & they put on a good show, doesn’t mean they’re incapable of committing heinous atrocities!
people are no different from dogs, they can snap at any moment if they were not raised by decent and mentally healthy folk.. so many triggers are planted in early childhood.
@@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970 What a great explanation!! That’s so true & very profound. Daily, I thank God for this endless, free information that we have access to. I wish more people would use it to gain access to the free help, and put in the work to overcome their trauma. Hope you have a great day Esmeralda, & I sincerely thank you for your response. 🙏🏾
Thank you 48 hours for putting this full episode on
His family is in denial. The DNA evidence was strong. It wasn’t picked up in the mall, it wasn’t from the dealership. The killer’s comment that “at least he got to live and see his family” was his way of tormenting her family, letting them know he did it and poking the wound of her death. We’re all safer with that man locked up.
And mentioning the kidnapped reporter was very weird too, not saying he has to be guilty of it too but I really hope they check this possibility.
That was weird and I don't really think that was said by mistake.I wouldn't really be surpised if he was connected to Jodi Huisetruit or some other case.
Shows that regardless of what a good father he is.
Deep down he is a vile monster..
Andy sounds like the hyper suspect stalker type! 😮
Yeah if he was involved in the Jodi Huisentruit case then he’s got a type and investigators should probably check for other cases involving blonde women around that time…
When he told the other inmate if you keep beating me I'll have to take you to the mall. What a psychopath.
So real tho, I thought. Just a slip of the tongue and the truth in his heart -
That makes me suspicious of other possible crimes he’s committed at malls. Creepy mall predator!
@@twatts1523his cousin vanished too without a trace. I suspect he did it.
Haha..I thought it happened only in 3rd world that u just take an oath n everybody just believes ya haha
They have no evidence they always bring in a jailhouse snitch
_"No criminal record and a loving family man"_ and that's exactly how we describe Golden state killer before we discovered that he's a Serial killer 😃
Yes as well a BTK serial killer ..
And the green river monster. The list is endless.
All three men were creepy 😳
Right it's so dumb that people still try to use this as a point of innocence it's been proven time and time again that even the most normal looking can have skeletons in their closets
One person’s guilt has nothing to do with another person’s guilt. Turns out everybody’s different. Prejudice bad. smh
Everyone saying they don't believe he did it because he doesn't look like a killer. Chris Watts and Scott Peterson didn't look like murderers either
+ Murdoch
This totally pisses me off. The person who murdered Michelle tried it again 3 years later in almost the same spot in the parking lot. I know. I'm the person it happened to. So I called police at the time. The perp got away. But, every single time they asked for leads in Michelle's case, I called them. And they would tell me, "Oh no, it's not the same person." Flash forward to the day they arrested the murderer. And I see him on tv. And guess what? It was the same guy, only older. And had the police taken me seriously any of the FIVE times I contacted them in the FORTY YEARS they allegedly were working to solve this case, it probably would not have taken so long. This guy pretended to be a JC Penny employee. I walked through Pennys to go to a shoe store, and walked through on my way out. Where the creep followed me out of the store and into the parking lot. I became aware of him and ran to a group of shoppers. That is when he told them he was a store employee and I had stolen vacuum cleaner bags, and I needed to come with him. They agreed to go in the store with me, and he fled. We called police and nothing ever happened. I reported this man every time they asked for leads. They ignored me. And it was him all along.
Damn that’s insane. It shows what a predator he is and there are no doubt other victims.
@@bushmonster1702 It also shows that our police department in Cedar Rapids is a bunch of bungling idiots who cant solve a crime even when people come forward with information. If you ask me, they didn't really want to solve this case. If they were serious, they wouldn't have dismissed me like an over imaginative child. 5 times!! I will never forgive them, and I hope Michelle's family doesn't either. Because had the police taken me seriously, her parents would not have died not knowing who killed their daughter.
You should talk to the news.
My goodness I’m so sorry.
I think you should nevertheless contact the new investigators again, because he might at some point try to get a retrial and your information would be very valuable.
Glad you’re well ☺️
Those detectives, man. That’s dedication right there.
Detectives only seem to really care if the victim is a pretty girl. Pretty shallow to be honest
@@johnsmith651 What a stupid response.They worked to solve that case because she was murdered.
@johnsmith651 You‘re just projecting your own world view onto others.
@@johnsmith651unfortunately you seem to be right.
@@johnsmith651Honestly, I think you may be right although many will not admit it.
Posting this on Michelle’s anniversary….well done! From one Michelle to another, rest in peace now. ❤
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She is don't worry and will continue to do so no matter what is said or done.
I’ll never get friends saying there’s no way he did it when there’s a literal 100% dna match to blood at the scene.
You overestimate the DNA match.
The sample was 20 years old and it wasn't properly preserved from contaminations because they didn't knew what technologies will be found in the future.
The sample could give you only a small part and not the full individual genome. Based on that small part you could have 20 people or more in a city that fit.
Ahh yes, reconstructing the face from a sample it isn't something that the science could do because you only have the outlines not the details nevertheless the plice present it as clear evidence.
His answer with "I don't know how my DNA got there" just to haveminth later after many interigations "maybe was due to Y" was the standard behavior described by many behavior experts today (fact that wasn't known when he was interrogated)
@@elenabob4953look for Bob Smith's comment. Seems your little jail bird is beginning to gloat. 😂
@@JennyBrie2006 Yeah, because this is just the internet and we should believe the stories of anyone on the internet simply named Bob Smith 🙄
The internet. The place where people say anything and people believe everything.
@@shawnagreen2942that’s not true. I don’t believe you.
I don't trust the DNA in this particular case. I think the jury got this wrong. Hopefully the defendent will win on appeal
Showing her ex the crime scene photos when he wasn't even a serious suspect is horrible. Giving a young man PTSD with graphic photos of a girl he dated being stabbed- that's so horrible.
Through all this the police didn't try very hard at all.
They went with what they had. This was a random crime between strangers, the hardest to solve. Her DNA made the only difference in solving this case. They had no leads.
Police goal is to catch people--they aren't particularly concerned with trauma except where children are concerned.
When Jamie told investor Matt that his dad (a prior case investigator also) was very proud of him & Matt had to stop the interview, just WOW! Imagine pretty much Matt’s entire life was at least partly consumed by this, think he was 4 when it happened? So going through school, college, law enforcement training etc, marriage, kids .. this horror show always in the back of his mind. _DREAMING_ about someday solving this case & still being able to tell his dad .. & it’s come full circle! Geez in less than an hour *_i_* am bursting with pride for Matt, his dad must be _OVER THE MOON!_ Great story, thanks for sharing! 🤟🏼🕊️💕
Yes, both he and his father are such righteous and dedicated ppl. I too teared when he teared up. He has a such pure and good energy.
On the other hand, I could immediately identify Jerry as the murderer out of the 3 brothers. He doesn’t pass the vibe check.
The composite sketch was spot on! When they first showed the photo of the 3 brothers, I straight away screamed: "It's him, the middle one!!!"
Me too!
I did too! How strange is that?!
@@sunilayya8948 Me too, immediately!
Me too.💯
*composite
No one wants a violent killer in their family. I think it's common for family members to be in denial because maybe even subconsciously they think it reflects upon them
Sounds pretty self absorbed, especially in a situation where your family member can harm again.
I agree. Everyone in the comments calling them disgusting but they aren’t in their shoes. It’s her father and his brother. It’s going to take a lot of therapy for them both. I’m sure he’s manipulating them too
well, psychopath genes will pass on so thats why.
Must be terrible to think a monster made you. Easier to deny it
It does reflect upon them.
Thats not fair, but it does.
Thats not the real reason though. If you know someone, or think you do, like we all do think, its just unimaginable and for family loyalty also kicks in.
His family is super delusional.
They usually are!!!
Agreed. I think he's done this, a lot. He gives me a chill up my spine.
@@WatchTashi I agree. I think there are definitely more victims out there. Starting with Judi Huisentruit. Why would he bring her name up if not. This guy is CREEPY!!!!!!
@@StaceyLovesBettyBoopand there are some pretty striking similarities between Michelle and Jodi too!! Interesting thoughts.
Delusional and arrogant - that they would appear on TV denying the fact that DNA and BLOOD put their relative at the scene of the crime.
Why do people think being a busnessman or having children makes you respectable? There are plenty of crooked businessmen and plenty of bad parents. Come on,people.
It makes people feel unsafe that killers can integrate into society and lead a culturally normal life, that they would be easier to avoid if they stuck out.
Wow!! I remember the case of Jodi, the newscaster!! So eerie how much she favored Michelle! 😮
It’s so bizarre and creepy how many of us or people we know are so close to killers without even knowing it.
We got these mass shootings so no longer hard to believe.
thousands of cases go unsolved each year.
6 degrees
Everyone is capable of it with enough increasingly bad choices. That’s why choosing well and seeking to do good continually really is so important for all people.
I've been watching too many of these shows i am always looking over my shoulder now
Even his smirk from day one of the interview...he knew he had finally been caught
Dealers dont sell cars with blood on them. 🤦♂️ Did he sell her the dress too?
The dress is the stumbling block for those who want to explain away the DNA.
maybe he was a car salesman by day, worked at a dress shop by night, and had lots of nosebleeds...
I know. Ridiculous!
I think he saw a crime of opportunity. He probably kept gloves and knives in his vehicle. She was parked too far, it was dark, and he took a shot. I wouldn't doubt there are other deaths in his wake. His cousin Brian disappeared (coincidentally on the same date of 12/19) in 2013, and 5 years before Jerry's arrest and his first wife supposedly died of suicide.
Wow…
The reporter went missing and never found. His causin also went missing never found. And his wife committed suicide. All these three deaths happened in the 2000s. All in Iowa.
You wonder how many other murders he possibly committed. It’s like a potato chip with them, it’s usually never just one.
Especially someone who could live life very normal. It reeks of a psychopath
Love your comment...."It's like a potato chip". 😂
True he could be a serial killer but experts classify them as "organized" or "unorganized". BTK was organized. This guy was messy.
37:31 that daughter is so ignorant. What’s unfair is that her father murdered an innocent girl.
Not really if it was your dad you'd be saying the same thing.
@@joaquimrodriguez8961 if my dad was a murderer I absolutely wouldn’t stick up for him at all. If you would then that’s your problem.
Ikr I was like wow the daughter isn't very smart
It’s easier to believe a lie.
I get it. Its her father. But I personally would have a hard time believing my dad could do something like this too. My father my kids. I would still love them. But never forgive them.
So creepy how Burns mentioned the kidnapped reporter….hope something turns up in that case.
Totally agree. I very much remember when she went missing.
Michelle probably did something garnering a photo in the local newspaper, or maybe even a quick human interest story on the news, and is why she was a victim. He may have been targeting young blonde women who were higher profile, "famous" or well known in his mind, like the reporter. Maybe he was rejected by a successful blonde, or his own mother, when he was younger.
@@l-b284or maybe he had a crush on those women and thought it’s best not to let anyone else have them
Spontaneous utterance. Almost like he’s challenging the police to catch him in that one. Dont these guys think they’re smarter than police? Technically if he did do that one too, then he did ‘win’ since they haven’t been able to pin it on him.
She had very similar eyes, looked like what Michelle would have years later. Eerily so...
I was a year ahead of Michelle in High School at Kennedy. I remember her well. She did stand out especially w/her blonde hairstyle. It was a terrible shock when she was killed.
The son fighting back tears b/c his father is proud of him (at around 38:00) made my eyes well up too. You’re a hero if you get justice for a grieving family.
I so wanted the presenter to ask his family how his blood got on her dress and car? Was he prone to bleeding everywhere?
Was it his blood or a DNA contamination due to the fact that the sample was improperly preserved from contamination for 20 years? Don't forget that what they could have from this sample is a partial profile that could correspond to many other people.
@@elenabob4953 it was a full profile. No contamination and a 1 in a billion match. I'm pretty sure there are not a billion people in America
@@elenabob4953why are you making nonsensical comments? Did you participate in the investigation? Are you related to the defendant? You’re protesting way too much, dude. Do you know something the investigators missed?
@@AidaShawJ.D. She's definitely related to or working for the defendant.
Well you see he happened to be wearing the dress while working on the car when he got a nose bleed and those two things happened to both be at the same crime scene years later. Makes perfect sense.
Big respect to the detectives and prosecutor who tirelessly worked on this horrific case.
calls to defund the police look all the more silly when we all see the hard working men and women that solve these old cases.
Yeah I mean how much more should the police force be defunded?! These dna tests cost thousands of dollars and most cases are waiting on the back burner for ages to be solved. So much more money should go into this, imo.
Could be a possible serial killer? That amount of violence and going prepared with gloves and knife. The blood evidence was there not touch DNA. RIP Michele 🙏
Yes - a serial killer like Ted Bundy, living the perfect double life. I believe so, 💯%.
I was thinking the same thing. There was absolutely no connection between Jerry and Michelle. I feel like there has to be other victims out there.
They ran his dna on unsolved murders from around the country and found no other.
Very real possibility. I’d be more surprised if there wasn’t.
I love when people say, "he was a stand up guy, pillar of the community", so was BTK.
So was John Wayne Gacey
All the better to help them hide in plain sight. Some sins are not so obvious.
Every criminal has FIRST crime. It drives me nuts when they say, he had no criminal record. SO WHAT? Every criminal has a point in time when they commit their first crime. It may ALSO be the LAST crime they commit.
It was so sad that her parents both died thinking that the wrong person killed their daughter. That wasn’t justice at all for them. They died and never got justice
I feel horrible for her ex boyfriend. He was misunderstood for so many years
More than that, imagine his own parents. Having to lead a life, where your own parents think you are a murderer, i cant even imagine his suffering. Michelle's suffering lasted just may be 10-15 minutes. But that poor guy suffered his whole life.
" just 10 - 15 minutes "...???!?!
@@indianfan1029everything you said was correct until you brought how long she suffered into this, that shouldn’t even be in this comment. Their sufferings are not comparable.
They will get justice, He will stand before God on Judgement Day
Scumbag jerry DID win by being out with his family for this long. But the fact that he never suffered remorse, pain and regret about what he did says more about him than anything
But WHY did he do it? Was it just random, or did I miss something?
@@JodyFidelismaybe he’s a serial killer. They hinted that it may not be his only victim. Maybe he was just good at hiding his double life.
At least they finally got him.And he'll get what's coming to him in hell.
Psychopaths don’t feel remorse
@JodyFidelis
It’s not difficult to guess why he’d done it. He’s a sexual predator who had silenced his victim.
This case gave me chills. Michelle Martinko deserved so much better.
God bless her soul.
Excellent and sad story. Well done to all those clever detectives. sorry for the family of Michelle.
This happened in my hometown. People were always sad about her. Most people remember this all these years later even before it was solved. It was just hard to believe something like that could happen in cedar rapids at that time. That poor girl💔
The defense lawyer was like "DNA is not a sole indicator of a crime".
But if was defending a case that that had no DNA found, he would be like "there is no DNA found in the crime scene" defense.
Exactly! Or if it exonerated his client, he would be screaming “not guilty” in opening and closing! 😂😂
Prosecutors do the EXACT same thing so what's your point?
@@kenyattaclay7666no they don‘t. prosecutors only use DNA evidence when they have some. lawyers discredit evidence when there is and take it in favor when there is too.
I cannot really blame the defense lawyer. It's his job to defend his client and do his best to poke holes.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅 agree to this
Insane how a cold case open that long, 39 years, and finally get the killer
Advances in DNA
The fact that was a 20years not properly preserved sample and that the analysis had only one small part if the genome that is the same part as at least 20 other people living in that city it really makes me wonder if they really got the killer.
Yeah, advances that also gives you the face based on a small sample and not the full genome, from a sample that wasn't property preserved for 20 years because at that time. Sure, sure.
@@elenabob4953“full DNA strand“
Well done to those detectives who never quit
I never believe them when they claim they've blocked memories. Victims of crimes - yes, I'm sure they genuinely do block memories, it's the brain's way of protecting us. The perpetrators of the crimes though - na, they remember every second of it. Denying memory is their way to both keep those memories sacred for themselves, and also so that they don't have take ownership of that behaviour.
I don't think blocked memories actually happen, in that case it would be forgotten memories but then I don't think it's possible to forget something like this.
@@teijaflink2226 blocked memories, or rather repressed memories, are definitely a thing if you experienced trauma in childhood and your brain isnt mature enough to process what happened, so the brain, in an act of self preservation, rejects the event altogether. In terms of committing a crime though? No way. What sociopaths can and often will do is compartmentalize the event, easily carrying on with their life and activities without it bothering them.
It’s very traumatic when you see a love one in a casket! I had a big panic attack when I saw my daughter, to me she was not supposed to be in casket, I’m haunted today from that site! & have post traumatic stress syndrome
Its so wild that they kept blood and dba samples back then before they knew they could do anything with it. I find it amazing.
Genealogy should definitely be used to purse indictments and convictions against these criminals! Rip Michele
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Absolutely
Absolutely
I forget what story it was, but there was one on an innocent man who had his life ruined because of this method of DNA searching.
*PURSUE
Father and son detectives reactions of finally getting the case solved. My heart goes out to her family.
In regards to the motive..
It’s possible he saw her at the mall, became obsessed with her because she was striking, tried to mingle with her, she refused/rejected him and he followed her to her car.
Except he had plastic gloves at the ready
@AbbeyOnAtkins
He could have all these in his car. He drove 2 hours from his hometown so that he couldn’t be identified easily. Why would you commit crime in your own neighborhood and risk having witnesses who can identify you straightaway.
I doubt if he ever hit on her. He was what, in his thirties by then? He probably hated pretty blondes who may have rejected him in his own teenage years and wanted to act out the fantasy of taking what he could never get with consent.
@@paulinegallagher7821 makes perfect sense because they did say it was personal, targeted & a hateful crime. May her soul RIP
Didn't she even tell her friend she thought she was being followed? Did he follow her to the mall??
I'll never understand why people try and use family and faith as a good reason someone wouldn't do something horrendous. Oh and if they don't have a previous criminal record. Let's be honest, there's PLENTY of people that don't have a criminal record. So what does that even mean as a reason to try and shift blame?
The detective was amazing and definitely brought this case home. Glad they caught the heartless killer.
What a beautiful angel..!!!! She would be 62 years old if she was alive.. Very sad to think that one man's psycho thoughts ended a life and her rights to live, marry, have a child..be a grandma... Everything.
Maybe she would not have wanted to get married and have kids? Why don’t people ever say “she could have owned a company, discovered a cure, or invented something spectacular”…women want more out of life than just a family.
@@genx-odus5678 Partially you are right but being a same age girl i think at the end of the day we all want a beautiful family.. She had a boyfriend.. So she had those feelings.
@@Shriyashri24 "All"? I do not. We do not all want a beautiful family. I had a boyfriend when I was younger and found that I had wanted more out of life than what the "script" society has written for women. We fought too hard for our rights to still merely just be thought of as family makers...
@@genx-odus5678 We all don't want to be a entrepreneur too.. Simple.
@@Shriyashri24 i never used the word "all" you did
Him mentioning Jodi Huisentruit is so suspicious.
right? He definitely did that not once
He may recall cos it happened during the same time same city and both victims are blondes and discussions jave down rounds...if he was not convicted the statemnt will seem perfectly fine
@@bishakhachakraborty6765 Michelle was murdered in 1979, Jodi disappeared in 1995 I believe so it wasn't around the same time.
@@lunatic5162 Well two possible reasons; one, he did it and he thought thats what the detective was there about, or he just named her as an example of a woman in Iowa who he remembered was murdered and her killer never found. If its the latter, he was hoping that whoever killed Jodi was also the suspect in Michelle's to take the heat off him.
He did it on purpose too
I just have so much appreciation for the Detective that took over his fathers Case and solved it. What a hero. He himself knows the amazing job he had done and to hear the clarification from your father who was once on the same case, Must be the utter most appreciated feeling. God worked through this detective. God bless all families in this case.
Shouldn't god work to prevent murders from happening in the first place? Why does he wait until a person is killed to work through a detective? And why are so many murders (innocent child victims for example) unsolved? How does he choose which detective he works through and which case to ignore? Seems quite random and sadistic to me.
It wasn't god. All the hard work, years of looking for a suspect, checking new leads... it was ONLY because of these persistent detectives that we know the culprit.
I love this show. So glad it has it's own channel on TH-cam so I can watch them all 😁
I only discovered it yesterday and I've been binge watching since! 😂
That tear at the end before detective says "alright lets take a break" got me teary hell yes he made alot of impact
This is exactly why it's important not to rush to judgment. Just because someone seems like they may have been involved does not mean they were.
Talking to him now, he seems like a mild-mannered old guy but you have to look at when he was younger.
They are asking why would he leave his wife and children to drive to the mall... because that is where there are multiple people that he could choose as victims.
Serial killers have been leaving their wives to go and prowl as long as there have been serial killers.
But if his DNA was on multiple areas including the car the no way was that transfer from her picking it up at the mall.
@@WVgrl59 I'm actually talking about her boyfriend at the time who everyone thought did it.
Exactly. That poor guy might have had a hard time letting go, and the brother in law not liking him and seeing him as a pest would have shaped their conviction that he did it. But that said, if he WAS harassing her and refusing to accept the relationship was over, and then she turns up dead, can you blame the family for thinking what they did?
That's right. It happens way too often in these types of cases.
❤At the end when Harvey denlingver said how proud he was of his son and the interviewer told his son and he choked up… it was great ! Lovely moment !
Today is 12/19. Not a coincidence that 48 hours ran this story today. RIP Michelle.
Today is 5/25
Observing the blink rate in Jerry Burns' interview could be quite telling. One might say it definitely indicates guilt.
I wish all the investigators like Delinger who are so passionate about their job. It was really touching at the end when he was told that how his father is so proud of him.
Why is family always delulu when there is DNA?
if the DNA had come back to some Russian guy who had never been to the States then I would say it was faulty. But what are the chances of it identifying someone who lived and frequented the mall? AND the DNA was also on her dress not just the gear shift. This is a terrifying predator. He killed cause he wanted to and stopped at will as well.
AND it wasn't just some transfer DNA, it was his blood. While interviewed, he also mentioned that missing reporter. A woman looking very similar to Michelle. I hope her case is being investigated.
I've little doubt on occasions DNA can be faulty-science is never perfect.
You might only be partially right.As other people here have stated,he might have more victims that just haven't been connected to him.
Great respect to M. Denlinger! The moment he shed a tear about his father making him proud, made me love this guy even more! RIP Michelle.
I have so much respect for him after listening to him for just a couple minutes. I teared up. He seems to have a deep respect for justice and that's admirable. I'm grateful for people like him.
1979 I was 16 it’s my favourite year I’m 61 now what a Tragedy for this young girl and her poor family and friends .
I hope that we get a chance to live again and that she lives the life that she deserves X ❤
the way his family desperately tries to finds ways to explain everything. heartbreaking.
not even Jerry himself tries to hide it anymore.
Family of narcissistic
48 Hours does it best. I love their shows. I wish they would post every episode for free. 😎
We get them free on here.
Even faced with indisputable physical evidence, his family still denies. Cut from the same criminal cloth? Maybe. Or just delusional. Either way, I’m glad this monster will finally be put away for the rest of his life.
You do know that scientists make errors... Paragon Labs was probably out looking for fame
@@ezrc9294So you're saying that there's an error in the DNA? Because the percentages that it could be someone else is zero.
@@Marlaina I dont know - I would have to be there myself and test it.
With a crime that horrific its not hard to believe he has other victims. This guy is obviously a predator. This seems like an attempted rape gone wrong she fought back and he killed her in rage. So sick that he boasted about getting to live his life for so long... 😡
Sad😢she was 4 months younger than me 😢so sad
Great job to the detective. Nothing like hearing that your dad is proud of his son. Good on you!!
He worked in a car dealership and his blood just happened to get on the car and dress🙄
His family is disgusting for being in denial and thinking he’s innocent.I mean, makes sense. They share the same blood.
I don’t think they are disgusting. They have never seen that side of him. It’s their brother and father. You don’t want to believe that they’ve been going about a relationship for a lot their entire lives and he’s been a killer all along. They want to find a reason behind it cause it’s so hard to believe. The only evidence is two small amounts of blood. Which I think is enough but I can see how they are trying to find something to clear him. I’m sure he’s lying and manipulating them a lot too.
@@Findpepperbridgethey should watch more true crime. Seemingly innocent people often turn out to be monsters. They are chameleons walking amongst us.
@@Findpepperbridge I feel that it is unfair of the author of this post to label the family 'disgusting ' it has to be shocking and like you said they are trying to the reasons of why he would do such a thing. I know me personally, my feelings would be confusing and hard like I would feel terrible for the family and sorry they suffered such a loss but he's still my father and he'd be connected to my heart. I wouldn't just denounce him or bad mouth him or leave him to burn at the stake. But then I wouldn't be supportive of what he did ( not saying they are) but it's really confusing feelings.
And it's happened exactlly on car She happened to use it
I am not DNA expert but DNA just not flying around ,is it?
He must touch the car,he must be inside in the car ,and also his DNA on her dress
She was beautiful young woman
May be his DNA got mixed in the blood and they found his DNA instead of the killers since the killer was wearing gloves and could it have been her blood mixed with his DNA not his blood.
It's fascinating how they solved this case!
Amazing DNA technology. I salute the detectives for breaking cold cases. God bless them.
I used to work at WestDale Mall before they tore it down. We used to say the halls were hunted by her ghost waiting for justice to be served. So glad he was caught, it was a long time coming.
Did we all just collectively fall in love with the detective?
Michelle… rest in peace you precious beautiful soul 🙏🙏🙏
Justice has been served💖💖💖
After the guilty verdict the way he just stood up like ' well, that's that ' tells you he did it. If he was innocent you'd think he would have shouted & went nuts, but he didn't do any of that.
yes you are absolutly right! i was thinking the same way. if was really innocent you have to show some injustice or angry but he did not. he just get caught...
He could've raised reasonable doubt if he admitted he had interacted with her at her car. There were no witnesses. He could've said her battery was dead and he gave her a jump, cutting his hand while opening her hood. Hopping in and getting it started for her. Then driving off thinking nothing of it. Except for this weird looking dude lingering not far away, watching them.
But to just deny, deny, deny, with no explanation for his blood in her car and on her dress sealed his fate. Now, he's where he deserves to be.
That man's blood was on her dress and gearshift
You're too good! Hope you're not planning on committing a felony anytime soon!😂
@@Cor6196Haha your comment got me 😮
Damn Id hire you no questions asked if I'm ever on trial!
then they would say why not reveal this all these years...
How do they explain away his blood being on Michelle's dress and in her car? The denial is crazy.