The Mysterious Death of Tiffiney Crawford | Full Episode
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- A young mother found dead in her car. Could she have shot herself twice? "48 Hours" contributor David Begnaud reports. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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So now we convict people because they didn’t react the way a juror feels he should. The jurors in this case suck
I truly believe Justice had won. And I can't figure out Tiffiney's mom her son in law, I hadn't seen him shed a tear for his wife. She should only be crying for her daughter, not her arrogant son in law. So very sad . RIP Tiffiney
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I don't know what to think 😮
Whatever you do, don't get life insurance and don't light up a room or you'll be dead before this episode of 48 hours is finished.
True! Don't be a great mother and make them your world.
@@msw8839 great mother is subjective. What you may call a great mother others may not.
Oh yeah, I have life insurance with my mother name on it as the beneficiary not my husband, and I definitely don’t light up any room :)
So true.
or have your whole life ahead & “had no enemies”. make sure your relationship with your spouse is downhill, too!
WOW 99 yrs but eligible for parole in ONLY 15 yrs !!!! That is just absolutely Ridiculous. Our judicial system is a mess !!!!
No murderer should ever be eligible for parole.
Alabama justice system
I thought he said eligible in 50 years, not 15.
@@SOPEACEBESTILLCharles Manson had parole hearings. It doesn’t mean that you’re going to get released.
Pretty sure he said 50 years.
I always find it sad when the children are living with the murderer’s family.
Same. Like, how is that not a conflict of interest for the children’s mental health?
@@carltonwalton9819 You don't know what a conflict of interest means lmao
Insanity
@@topshgggrrr5577 pot, meet kettle!
I think it's inappropriate and utterly disgusting that his parents brought those children to their father's sentencing. Talk about messing with the children's mental health.
Wait, Hold up! The mother didn't go to the trial to hear the evidence and insisted he was not guilty based on the fact that She didn't want it to be him. Finally hears the evidence, realizes he is guilty and doesn't know how he could've lied to her.. That poor girl. Her mother should've taken her side from the start and supported the investigation to find the truth. Willing ignorance. This case is beyond sad! Those kids lost both parents and had to hear the shots that took their mother from them! I'm glad they found him guilty! So many red flags.
First spot on comment.
I feel sorry for the mother - no mother should lose her children - but "the ostrich syndrome" (head in the sand) is obvious in her case. Moreover, she didn't fight for her grandkids and allowed them to be raised by HIS parents, what kind of bull is that?
But again, who am I to judge.
Well the fact that the jury nonsensically convicted him based on him saying the gun was beside her - as it was - proves it was a miscarriage of justice of emotions not evidence. Poor guy. His life is ruined over a no good serial cheater who couldn't keep her pants on.
He'll be vindicated on appeal
@@abigailh7715 poor guy? You’re a sick lady.
@abigailh7715 Maybe I heard incorrectly, but I thought the narrator said there were three children in the house - two asleep, and one 14 year old from Jason's former marriage? Also, Jason said he was inside when he heard the shots coming from outside. Was there any mention of the 14 year old, who was presumably awake, seeing his Dad in the house when the shots were fired?
@@cherylelancaster8791 the prosecutor flat out called the son a liar, said that you can't believe him because he most likely heard that over and over and just decided to believe it, just because you know because duh he is only 14 and that's what 14 year olds do. I mean can you believe that BS?????
I can already see she was one of those moms that you would cry to and say he hit me and she'd be like, "well what did you do?"
Sounds like my mother. But mine is worse I fear.
You're probably just like her. Lmao @@hollyhope7227
Omg that's awful my heart goes out to you,I hope you are ok❤
@@kathyhayden2499 I am sooo ols now. But I just cannot forget. I was so young and little did I know but always felt the injustice.
What do you think tiffanie would say? Would she say you’re a killer? “No, I don’t think so” this man’s demeanor says it all. He didn’t shed one tear then or now. Wtf do u mean u don’t think she’d say that?! I’d be absolutely certain she wouldn’t call me a killer if I didn’t do it!
Exactly!!! That's what I thought right when he said "I don't think so" Like wth what do you mean you don't think so?? You're even doubting yourself right there!!!! I'd be damn sure she wouldn't if I didn't do it!!!
Yeah, this guy's statements were virtually confessions.
Yes that caught metoo
I’m predominantly left handed but also ambidextrous. That said, I’m convinced he did it & I was from the opening seconds. I think the fact that his mother held the position she did, dragged the whole thing out longer than it would have had she worked at McDonalds! Who gives a vehicle back without it being forensically tested? Her mates from the Police thats who! Im pretty sure if she’d have shot herself in that van with a closed door it would have looked like an absolute bloodbath.
He said in the 911 call: "my wife has been shot", not "my wife shot herself"..
@@einienj3281 Exactly then he couldn’t tell the call handler who shot her 🙄
@@carolepaton7944 Yup.. and why would he have heard a scream, if she killed herself? He heard her scream when he shot her..
@@einienj3281 He probably heard a scream because he was approaching his terrified wife with a gun! The lack of emotion in that call was so telling. Those poor kids 😢
@@carolepaton7944 Exactly.. I'd be screaming too, if my husband had pointed a gun at me..
If someone cheats WITH you, they will cheat ON you!!!
Learned that the hard way
Never fails
Yep. She's a typical 304. My she rest in peace, bless her heart.
Yes if she can do it to her previous husband/previous wife she/he still can do it to her/his present 😕
Yup. You lose them, how you got them.
Jason was soooo upset that Tiffany had violated the "sanctity of their marriage," but he didn't seem to have a problem with committing adultery with Tiffiney while she was still married to her previous husband. That hypocrisy, alone, made me suspect him from the outset.
He also apparently didn't realize that patterns repeat. If she did it to her last husband she'd do it again
Amen.
THEN* hypocrisy alone
👍🏾 if they did it with you, they will do it to you…..
PREACH!!!!!
I like the reporter ! He’s brutally honest and direct.
Stone-faced😊
He was dating Tiffany while she was still married. How hypocritical can you be.
Exactly. How you get them is how you lose them
I agree
Just because she was married when she was dating Jason, doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. Maybe the marriage was already over, they were living apart or maybe she just loves to cheat on her husband's. I mean, she does have a pattern for it 🤷🏽
You lose em how you get ‘em!!
Exactly 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼‼️
The police claim they treated it like a homicide yet they never tested Jason for gunshot residue?! And they released the vehicle to him within 24 hours?! No doubt his family connection had played a part in this. No justice!
He was probably already rejected and a bit disturbed from his previous relationship so was in a weird frame of mind second time around. Funny I'm often typing a comment then hear the same on a video right then.
That former chief medical examiner for the state of Alabama was way off too. I wonder how much he has got wrong.
HI IS INOCENT !!
Neglecting to take GSR-tests could be just small town cops vs big city crime thing, youd be surprised to learn how many times it is forgotten. Same as releasing the car back to the family. Some departments are really good at asking help, but some wont, even in cases they absolutely should.
No justice? He got life in prison.
As soon as I heard that officer saying, "There's nothing here that says anything other than suicide" within a few minutes of looking at the scene, I KNEW we were about to learn that scumbag husband had connections in the police department.
And the car. Why would they want to check for blood spatter patterns on a two bullets to the head suicide? No way, just let the family get to cleaning it.
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I am an American. I have also studied law and I determined a long time ago that there is a lot of corruption in the American legal system. Lots! I am an unbeliever in our system.
Good job! 👋
Yep thought the same!
I do not believe Tiffiney would have the presence of mind to shoot herself a second time after being shot in the jaw. The first bullet would have caused unimaginable pain.
Yes, so much pain she wanted to end it
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What's funny?@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman
...might even knock someone unconcious...would blow someone off their game, for sure. A murderer would do that...
I worked with a guy that shot himself twice in the head so it is possible ….
Wow, her mom saying “that’s my son-in-law” while never mentioning her daughter in that manner is insane to me. She could’ve fought for visitation with her grandchildren, while still defending her daughter memory!
THE MOM IS FIRED
SHE MAY HAD A CRUSH ON HIM😮😮😮
@@eliz8294Seriously? Doesn’t seem that way to me, he isn’t all that 😂
She probably felt bad for him because she knew her who're daughter was cheating on him
@@T_MusicLover_Hwow that’s was disgusting of you to say
@@taneshasmith9307 I'm sorry I was responding do all the comments bashing the mother's Behavior after her daughter killed herself and thought that could have been a a reason
“She’s been shot” , I don’t think anybody would have said that if they knew that their wife had shot herself. Listening to the 911 call, that’s what caught my attention
Youre right if hes innocent and he knew 100% he didnt do it..naturally he would have said my wife shot herself or my wife just committed suicide
Yup!
She shouldn't uh been cheating.
Great point I didn't even think about that
Thats nonsense.
If you didnt know what happened, thats exactly what you would say. "Shes been shot".
Two shots with her LEFT hand and the first thing the Sheriff says is suicide! How stupid can the Sheriff be and still have a job. Corruption is an ugly trait.
It's mind-boggling how the first officers to attend the scene didn't even test Jason for firearms residue. It's unbelievable really.
Some places don't do that test
@@nonamepainter that case was featured on the show 48 Hours if you are interested. The episode is called Power and Passion (I think I'm remembering that correctly)
@@nonamepainter you are most welcome 🌞
@@GGiblet It is protocol across the entire US to do a GSR test on all witnesses and victims whenever a firearm is involved in a death. Sometimes police departments drop the ball and don't do it, but it is absolutely protocol to do it. It is a very simple and easy test- a quick swab of the hands that is then sent out for testing for GSR. Any department that fails to do it is sloppy and unprofessional, as this department certainly was.
Most men seem to automatically stick up for men against women.
His mom was in the local law enforcement, yet chose to clean the van before evidence could be gathered. That speaks volumes imo.
Right
The police told them they already gathered all the evidence they could.
@@nathanbradleyf777 She worked with them. An outside law enforcement agency should have taken over.
Alabama
The good ole boy system has always been, and goes both ways.
It's a pity that under Alabama law he will be eligible for parole in 15 years even though he was sentenced to 99 years. That isn't justice at all.
I don't think he'll get parole, because her mother will be at the hearing to make sure he doesn't!
While I agree with you, just think how long 15 years actually is in prison with few of the comforts afforded. It will undoubtedly feel like a lifetime for him.
I thought he said 50 years!! Wait wow only 15 😱😱😱‼️ That’s insane!!!
@Leticia Guerra I doubt it. By then the mother will likely change her mind again. If his parents aren't letting her see the grandkids, she'll want him out to try to get access to the grandkids again. Her mom seems to change her story based off of what benefits her most.😢
@@darcyjeanske821 you mean what benefits the kids of her only daughter. She doesn’t “benefit” She has to play games with a family that has already shown they are just as bad as he does. She is doing what her daughter would likely want. And that is to stay in the life of those babies.
Tiffany's mom is the reason why we all have to deal with scam callers. This woman will believe anything.
😂😂😂sorry that did make me laugh!
I’ll bet she’s dating a handsome wealthy prince whom she has never met but has sent him a lot of money 😂
I just started this, but why do they dab their eyes when they're not crying. Do the producers of the show tell them to do that? I wonder
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Evil husband
Did anyone else notice that in the bodycam the husband's hands were on top of his head exactly like Chris Watts??
Yap
I thought his arms were up because the cops were coming but I rewound it and it was exactly like Chris Watts!!!wow observant!
Yep
Good catch!
Exactly, that’s a none verbal admission of guilt right there.
I absolutely love how 48 hours puts together their episodes. This whole time I was thinking he was found innocent by the way they showed it.
Sarcasm. I love it. Yeah, 48 hours is average at best. I'll watch. They ain't Dateline.
@@user-ru9gf7ky2y lol. Nah, I was being for real 🤷🏾♂️
Me too.
They occasionally do that now. Interview the killer like he's free
I came to the comments because am so mad it’s all pointing to “innocent” lol!
"Well, she was depressed, so she obviously committed suicide." Gawd, I HATE this attitude. I was depressed for years, and I NEVER tried to end it - EVER. People are so naive about mental illness.
But also how the prosecutor said he didn’t think she could be thinking about sulfide because she just started seeing a counselor was totally wrong… a lot of people go to see counselors because they are thinking about suicide. And if she just started seeing someone, it may not have been enough time to help her significantly.
@@alysecoleman1462 Exactly! both these points irked me. As well as the attitude of 'there was simply no indication she would do this' - I know it's relevant in cases where you might suspect homicide, but I've met numerous surviving loved ones of actual suicide victims (and been one myself) who would say exactly the same thing. It's incredibly damaging / naive to think you can know what's going with someone's mental health just because outwardly they appear to be doing well.
Look after yourself and others anyone reading this!
Why would they even ask the only other person in the house. Are you just giving him an excuse?
I'm 64 years old and I've had depression since I was 14 off and on. But I've never attempted suicide because I always thought maybe tomorrow it could be better.
Lots of depressed people do consider it and many go through with it so if someone ends up dead by possible suicide it’s relevant that they were depressed.
Why do people think they can get away with this? Do they not watch true crime shows?
Exactly!! I've watched crime and mystery shows forever and always thought I'd be caught for sure. Plus I'm a terrible liar 🤗
Its hubris, plain and simple....
It's hard to believe....I know....but some people actually don't! Blows my mind!
Good question
I mean, he almost did. It was almost 6 years before he was charged, also his mother was the Sherrif so he prob thought he had protection there. To be honest though, he was prob in a rage when he shot her and probably wasn't thinking anything about getting away with it at the time. He just saw red due to the affair. I just feel so bad for the kids, her mother, and her as well. I do think its odd the children live with his parents though. Usually they would go with the mothers family, especially considering he killed her. Maybe her mom isn't in a position to take care of them or wasn't 6 years ago and when she found out he did it she didn't want to rip them out of their new home, who knows.
The kids live with Jason's parens?! Yikes. I can somewhat understand why Tiffiney's mom wanted to keep her relationship good with every party; I wouldn't want to lose contact with my daughters' kids when they are the most precious things she left behind.
@Elisa Heiskanen Let's just hope that goes both ways. The parents of Jason might not feel the same way.
She knows he’s innocent
I think she could still believe her daughter committed suicide
The children should never have been allowed to remain with his parents he is guilty and as a mother my allegiance is to my dead daughter first!
We don't know her situation. We should be careful about judging others. We don't walk in their shoes.
The mother was in denial... She did not want to lose the opportunity of seeing her grandkids. Sad that she's feeling that way. No matter what she needs to be on her daughter's side. She was MURDERED.
She could & most likely would have gotten custody of her grand kids if he was convicted. That woman because she is not a mother didn’t deserve that beautiful child to be her daughter at all!!! She failed her in life & death!!!!
That's exactly why the murderers family should NEVER get the kids. It's ridiculous!
Please 🙏🏾
I was HORRIFIED by that mother but she redeemed herself by seeing the truth in the end. My benefit of the doubt for her is that maybe she felt like the MIL would win custody in family court because of MIL's status in the local legal system.
Or, she really feels the way she says she does. Every thing is not calculated and human emotions are complex. But good on you for knowing for a FACT how you would deal with the situation.
Someone once told me I light up a room. In my head I was screaming, “nooooo god no please nooooo.” 😂😢
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please be careful who you tell about your life insurance
Ninety-nine year sentence and eligible for parole in 15? That's crazy. Nobody shoots themselves with their non-dominant hand, and they almost never shoot themselves twice.
& the cop barely touched her & the gun fell out of her hand ! That’s impossible, she would’ve been clutching it tight causing them to have to pry it from her hand. UGHH HE’S SOOO FREAKING GUILTY & I hope they deny EVERY parole hearing because he deserves to ROT under the prison ‼️🤬😤
I'm a left-handed person but I also play sports with my right hand ambidextrous kind of
You don't know what she was no one really does
Should have been found not guilty. Cheaters deserve everything they get. He'll be out in 15 while she's hanging out in her casket
There's a possible reason why. If I shoot myself through my mouth..like I see in the movies...and I stayed conscious after, I would definitely shoot myself again in the head. Not saying he's not guilty... Just offering a perspective
This guy is so freaking guilty. There’s not a doubt in my mind that he did it. I have no idea why that mother is crying over him after he brutally murdered her daughter. They should’ve tested his hands for gunshot residue though. The kids are truly left in a sad situation.
It's vile. Almost as if the mother is in an intimate relationship with him herself, the way she's acting.
His tone and voice on the 911 call so was matter of fact… I think a stranger would have had more emotion then this guy did. It was like he was calling in a pizza order at Dominos.
‘My wife is shot’ such odd use of words.
@@jayronwalker4847 Very odd indeed. He never specifies in what way which is strange, if she shot herself or if a stranger did it. It's as if an external force did it
@@chloscornerabsolutely right
Her mom is so weird. I understand it’s hard but she needs to be strong for her daughter and grandchildren. I would be rolling in my grave if my mom did something like that.
I absolutely agree like dude venge my death or at least try!
I got a weird vibe too and wondered if she was close to her daughter. Perhaps she didn't want to get lumbered with kids.
Yeah it was a little weird. Why wouldn’t you want to know the truth from the very beginning…. It would be hard but I would want to know.
If one of my daughters was killed I’d want everyone in a 50-mile radius to be put on trial. This lady has lost the plot.
@@LadyCaspar Well said Caspar!
Did they check her hand for gunpowder residue? Seems there’s lot of incompetence with these detectives.
You’d be surprised how many law enforcement agencies don’t have the resources to do GSR tests. You know, with defunding the police being the in thing these days…
Right?! Like this one thing could have definitively solved the case.
Incompetence, or crazy like a fox? They didn't want the truth found.
The mother in law has a bizarre relationship with this murderer , she’s enabling him and in a sort of fever dream. I feel sorry for those children.
I agree there's something not right
Enabling? Like not doing anything as her daughter was committing adultery?
She may not want to get lumbered with kids. She's a bit odd.
Maybe she wasn't close to her daughter.
I think one of the best things about this case was that the sheriff recognized the conflict of interest right away and turned it over to the state. Not every sheriff or police department would have done that and it was the right thing to do. (10:41)
He let the husband keep the van and he and his family totally washed it up all within 24 hrs of her death.
😅
yup! or it would have been completely covered up and swept under the rug
Was it because it was Rhonda who did it Jason's mother
@@carolsummers8734 no, they didn't just let him keep the van. They processed it just like a normal crime scene and then gave it back. I'm sure the promptness of the process was a professional courtesy. You act as if they just ignored the van as a potential crime scene and let him destroy evidence. It really doesn't take long to obtain swabs, prints, photos, video, etc. It is the further investigation of those items of evidence that take time. Law enforcement still investigated despite thinking it was a suicide initially. That is more than most departments do for obvious homicides at times.
This was one of the best episodes I've ever seen. This interviewer should consider becoming a prosecutor. He didn't let the suspect get away with lying like so often happens. And yet with that same tenacity, he also gently helped the victims mom come out of her denial and face the hard truth. I'm so thankful, despite clear conflicts of interest, justice was served.
I was surprised to see him on 48 Hours. Six years ago, he covered the Central America beat--sad and scary stuff.
It is not his job to influence any witness.
@Picklesmacks ….. this was literally NOT the best episode that they filmed… i give it a 5 outta 10..
The guy was able to answer everything though. And the jury convicted him with less than beyond reasonable doubt.
@@kool-kool In your opinion. The person making the comment think it was. I think it was a really good episode too, in MY opinion
mama was more upset by the guilty verdict than the death of her own kid. wow.
Man, the mom defended him throughout the entire episode. At the end she asked the most powerful of question: "Jason, if not you, who?"
She already said she's defending him because she doesn't want her relationship with her grandkids to be messed up. Ppl are spiteful.
That was killing me the whole time. I’m glad she finally listened to the evidence and saw the truth!
@@ashleym1565 are you kidding me? What evidence? Lol
@@colbypatterson8273 Really? Watch again from beginning to end and then you tell me
The mum is unbelievable 🤦🏽♀️
Who brings their kids to a sentencing hearing???? How damaging. Those poor kids. It was really interesting to see the transition in the mother. This whole story is just heart breaking.
What gets me is him saying, “my wife’s been shot”. I feel like that’s not what you say when you believe someone shot themselves.
I agree like wth
Yeah you'd definitely say "my wife kileld/shot herself". Not the other. This guy did it
They did it for sympathy to try to get a lighter sentence
People with big egos!!!! Torey Lanez did that was so awkward his son was probably confused and his little sister was traumatized crying.
@@bobbyfitzgerald4165 yep
Getting killed by your loved one is awful but having the person that brought you into this world stand by your killer is even worse! I'm glad she at least realised it..
THANK YOU BECAUSE WTF 😒 the only thing that bothered her out of this entire situation was at 37:46 when one of the mothers friends said hallelujah when he was found guilty. So her dumb tail suddenly bothered by someone being happy HER DAUGHTER got justice ? And it was due to the KILLERS own words ? Like come on now. Even when she realized he did do it. Part 39:17 I don’t understand how he looked me in my eyes and knew he did it. Like come on now stop it.
I listened to video couldn’t watch while on the clock.
Some people are over the top empathetic - she couldn’t handle hearing the facts about her son-in-law - maybe she was afraid of not having access to her grandchildren - but that’s just rewarding the narcissist types over the victims :P
The video of the gun dropping out of her hand on police body-cam _still_ bothers me and makes me think it's a suicide... 🤷🏼♀️
26:33 "Tiffany's mom *_NEVER CHANGED_* how she felt about her son-in-law, Jason."
.... Hmm, but did she not do exactly that?
Gun in non dominant hand
And 2 shots ??
It’s rare for one to occur and they both occurred at once? Nahhh
This is a tough one for me to watch. Watching Tiffiney's mother defend her killer was infuriating! I couldn't help myself but think that my mother would problem do the same. She stood behind my ex-husband & blamed me even after he was convicted and sentenced for stabbing a man. To this day she call him "Son" This man was abusing me not only mentality & physically but left me financially devastated. But my mother did the most damage. She broke my heart & soul.
My mother broke my heart and soul too but in a different way
I'm sorry for your situation but I don't think this is the same thing. We don't know the relationship between her and her son in law and there's no proof that he abused her. She wants to see her grandchildren. We need to keep in mind that we only know what the mother is saying publicly.
❤I’m so sorry - my mom did me that dirty too😢
My mom kept on being more than cordial with my ex after he beat nd raped me. I went to trial alone at 21. In her mind you could not possibly be raped by your boyfriend/spouse. I realised the way she grew up, very poor, seing her dad beat her mom, probably conditionned her.
So of course I got no support with my case she advise me to pull my complaint against him. Anyways it took years of me explaining for her to finally get it she may not have a daughter anymore today, cause that night I thought he would have killed.
Sounds like my mother a complete narcissist who destroyed my life, never not a time when she didn’t let me down, I hate her!!
Anytime the spouse says things like “they were drinking a lot” to try to besmirch the deceased’s character…it’s a huge red flag.
yea.. ? But when he didnt say she shot herself it's also a red flag..So whatever he says it's a red flag in your book, good or bad things he says it's bad lmao
Look at her!! Is it really so surprising she would have a drinking problem?? Not at all.
2 clueless comments so far. Having😮 nothing to do with a coherent reply.
@@meghanmisaliar she fine af
@@TimApple. the coherency police have arrived
Jason seemed so cold through this entire thing, there was no life in his eyes.
None ugh
He has those “shark eyes”…so creepy…
He can definitely cut his emotions off when he wants too 😢
Dead sociopath eyes. It’s common in murderers
The man is tired. Ever been tired?
And Jason destroyed the sanctity of Tiffiney’s first marriage. What a hypocrit.
And to have cleaned the car within 24 hours of her death SCREAMS guilty!!
The strangest thing for me from the beginning is his mom worked for the Sheriffs office and cleaned the car.
Wait wasn’t it not even dirty? I mean blood wasn’t on the door as the coroner said!
The sheriff’s Dept released the van to family. The whole case was bungled from start to finish.
I thought: Who is worse? The mom or the police?
That is definitely sketchy.
I know the vehicle was released to the family but who in the world would want to continue using a vehicle where something so tragic had happened and why would they clean it so quickly?
Not the most brightest bulbs in the box, these officers.
Dirty cops!
Affairs never end well. In the end, the children are the ones that suffer.
Always
U can’t say that they always end badly. It is most often not great for the children. I will give u that. But, if u only look at the adults it isn’t true. How about this…. Marrying the wrong person NEVER ends well?
@@KDSima Guess what?.BOTH things can be true. And if you think affairs can ever end well then youre living in a fantasy. Or you're in one lol
@@meghanmisaliar I agree
Yep! Don’t have children! People spend more time s as Ms effort selecting an outfit for an event than they do selecting the person with whom they want to create a human being.
As a mom I couldn't IMAGINE behaving like Tiffany's mom. What a traitor.
I think she was terrified of losing any visitation or custody she could have with the grandchildren.
Yhh doesn’t make any sense. How’s a mother soo concerned about her son inlaw than finding the killer of her deceased daughter.
Indeed
I believe it came down to fear, fear of not only losing her daughter but also losing her grandchildren, fear of her grandchildren not only losing their mother but also their father.
It’s easy to call her a “traitor” from the outside looking in but it’s clear that poor women was in absolute turmoil over this. In the end she showed her true strength by standing up for her daughter
Narcissistic mother...couldn't see anything beyond herself her bond with son-in-law was important than her daughter's death
She didn't want to hurt her husband...but she was sleeping with another man and making plans to leave her husband !!
I think women do that because it's hard to leave when you're unsure about what will happen with another man. We look for security and protection.
Yeah. She was committing adultery and fornication. Plus the mother and best friend knew about it. Not speaking ill of the deceased, as I would never condone violence. Sad situation for all involved, especially the children.
@@aliciakraynik7674😂😂😂
"Worked it" like a homicide but "treated like" a suicide. Spin Class is in a session
😂😂😂😂I was like,,sir??
Right so much double talk
And this guy was a detective? Failure to be able to reason is not a good attribute in any profession
Anytime someone has died and the first thing the spouse says is "we were arguing" 9 times out of 10 it's the spouse who did it. How calm and emotionless he is throughout the whole thing is strange. I can't speak for how the mother in law acted, Im just glad the truth came to light & that the kids can try to heal.
Well in this case it could be her shame that drove her.
He seemed emotionless through even when he was sentenced. I think the guy is just emotionless 24/7 which is probably why they keep cheating on him and he stayed friends with the first. Entirely passionless
Exactly my thoughts. I was waiting for the "argument' part
Most people that are married have arguments, but not all of them have affairs. This would have been a hard case for me to figure out. What if he didn't lie? The oldest child said he walked in the house when they heard the first shot. That would make me think he was innocent. Kids will tell the truth before an adult would. Most kids pay attention and they know what's going on. Always listen to the kids, because they've been there living around these people the whole time. I feel so sorry for them the most. Poor kids. 🥺😥😢💔
Even bigger is when he says her last words were that she loved him I see this over and over
"You destroyed the sanctity of our marriage!", said the man who destroyed the sanctity of her previous marriage....
She destroyed multiple marriages ..
Nonsense
@@Lordperson3Yes, and her mother knows it.
Never have a smile that lights up the room or be the one who would give everyone the shirt off her back. OR never be the kind of person who brings people together.
God help Tiffany, when her own mother cried more about her son in law than her daughter.
Who was fighting for Tiffany 😢😢
Her loyal friends maybe
@@marchels9649 😂
@@eunicecombrinck1042 why’s that funny? 🤨
Friends?
Agreed!
Tiffany's mom saying "what purpose would that serve" when asked why she didn't stop supporting Jason after he got indicted it's mind boggling to me. Mam he murdered your daughter who you gave birth to. What is wrong with this lady?
And he literally just found out about the affair😮 he screams guilty. There’s no way that woman had babies. She was a mother advocate for other moms at herself. She would’ve never just taking her self away from her babies.😢
@rory clynes Bro murdering someone is worse than cheating on someone. Why do I have to explain this?
His parents have her grandchildren. I don't understand why people can't see that going after him endangers her ability to see the children that are the closest thing she has to her daughter left.
Grandchildren? Maybe she didn’t want to lose them too right away.. it’s mistifying
Her mother didn’t like that she was having an affair and wanted to leave her husband so she sided with her daughter’s killer 😢
The irony about this case is he was cheating with Tiffany, on her first marriage, but he couldn't handle it when it happened TO him. His evasiveness on the 911 call sealed his fate.
His first wife cheated on him, he did not cheat on her!
W
@@melb1215 That's not what @v t said. Jason was cheating with Tiffany while she was married to her first husband. He couldn't take it when Tiffany was cheating on him with another man, even though he was an adulterer, also.
how old was his son?
@@mensablonde826 hmmm? Sorry, I must have misheard.
I think he said, “after the first shot, he heard a scream.” Then he heard a second shot. If the first shot was in the jaw, could she scream? That little tidbit of information makes me suspicious.
You are a good detective! I did not even catch that.
Her mother was more worried about her son in law going to jail than her own daughter being killed 😢😮 It was shocking and disappointing. She failed her daughter even after her death. Rest in peace, Angel
She didn't want to lose her grandchildren and the relationship they had. They liv with his parents and probably believe in his innocence.. she is in a losing position.
@mirandaschalen that's a very poor excuse. I don't care what type of relationship I have with someone. My child killer will be my number one enemy. The grandkids' situation wouldn't have changed anything if she stood to fight for her child. Anyway, justice was served, and may her beautiful soul rest in peace
Yes great mom 😢🤮🤮🤮
This is a plain false statement
Agreed
This was so bizarre in that the mother of this woman totally sided with her killer. She finally realizes she was wrong until she supposedly heard all of the evidence. Very strange lady.
VERY VERY VERY WEIRD LADY.
I am considering that victim’s mom loves her son in law. And perhaps she felt some guilt that her daughter had an affair on her son in law. She had a change of mind after she considered all the evidence.
Really. The victim was in relationship with another guy, but told to her husband “loves him”, shot her self in presence of him, from his side and at least 10 inch distance with the L hand, being R handed….
His face and eyes tell a lot about him, sadistic liar !
That's not what she said it all she said she doesn't know and that nobody wins in this situation because he's got a family to she said she doesn't want to believe that her daughter shot herself but she doesn't want to believe that her son-in-law the father of her grandbabies did it either
I can get it, we are very close to one of our son in laws family. We have share Christmass together, new years, so many differant events, we live close to his family and he totally dotes on my daughter. If he killed her, it would be hard to let it sink in, on top of losing our daughter. I would feel for his family as much as our own. Like she said there are no winners, both families are hurt so deeply... She didn't want to admit to herself nevermind the world, that she lost her child at the hands of a man she loved as a son.... The father of her grandchildren... It was alot to process... The life as she knew it collasped that day.. Noone can blame her for mentally trying to hold on to some of it...or processing it bit by bit...
I feel like the only person in the comments that feels like he's innocent. If he's guilty, he's the best actor I've seen in all these 48 Hours episodes.
I feel the same.
I don't know if he is innocent or not, since there are things that point in either direction, but I think it is appalling how people are treating her mother in the comments for siding with her son-in-law. I mean this is an extreme situation, you are emotionally completely incoherent and do not know what to believe. She had good intentions to side with her son-in-law since she believed that he was innocent and he was among the only family that she had left.
@@Melior_Traianotrue. People think human emotions are black and white. It’s way more complex than that. Unless you are in that situation, you wouldn’t know how you would react. It’s sad that these people are so fast to judge. Of course this mother loved her daughter dearly and would have assumed the same for her SIL. was she right? Idk. There is nothing right or wrong in this world. Its just how a person perceives it. I don’t feel angry at the mother. You never know what goes on in a persons mind and what they do to cope with reality. No point blaming this mother.
She didn't want him to find out because " she didn't want to hurt him".
How about not cheating if you don't want to hurt him ?
How about get divorced if you just have to have sex with other people?
How about divorcing your spouse if they cheat on you?
She didn't deserve to be shot-but I agree, divorce before u cheat.
@@TheBeezusjones because clearly she felt like that before cheating , always the double standards
Huge shoutout to the incredible doctors involved with this case, they really helped to bring justice to Tiffiney and her family
Except for that doctor that said it was suicide.
@@bouxesas2046 yes true lol
@@bouxesas2046 an expert of 40 years claims all evidence is indicative of suicide.
Jury: convict him anyways
I agree with the shoutout, the doctors were amazing, but it's made clear in this episode that the jury only found him guilty because of his 9-11 call. That's pretty terrifying if you ask me, how stupid some juries can actually be. The doctors gave a mountain of evidence but that's not what convinced this jury. Their own interpretation of his 9-11 call did it for them, because clearly that mattered more than the actual forensic evidence from highly educated professionals.
@@dusanoljaca2585 Haha, "trust the science," right? There were highly educated professionals on both sides saying opposite things. "The actual forensic evidence" could go both ways, one pathologist for the defense saying that it was totally possible to have the skin evidence result from much closer range shots than what the other pathologist -- the black woman -- was claiming. She was arrogant as well, which immediately tells me her testimony was on shaky grounds.
Just ten minutes in and the husband already showed so many signs of narcissism.
He’s obviously guilty, not mentioning the affair is a huge tell IMO. He didn’t want to disclose his motive. It’s beyond me why people have affairs instead of just leaving.. you never really know anybody or what they’re capable of
But it's also embarrassing to admit to everyone that you got cheated on, again.
@@ReticulatingSplines_ true. At the initial scene though with the cops, it seems natural to me to explain the reason for the argument we’re talking about. Not bringing it up seems weird
Right at the beginning when he's watching the first responders check his wife, he's standing there with hands on his head looking just like Chris Watts
it wasn't him that was dishonest, it was his wife
@@salobrena6442 the punishment for adultery isn’t death in this country
I think Tiffany’s mom feels guilty for hiding her daughter’s affair from Jason. She might be compensating
Yeah could be that. Or just the fact that she’s a terrible, worthless mother who sold out her daughter when her daughter most needed her. I’ll go with the latter
The husband seems way too calm in both the 911 call and when the police are talking to him outside his house. He does not seem concerned at all about his wife. He also puts his head down when 48 hours asks if he shot his wife.usually when someone does not look you in the eye they are lying.
There's any more rather than being home is not answering who shot her when the dispatcher kept asking. That's huge.
of course he was lying...all the time/ The reason who was so cold is cos she had been cheating on him, so he felt betrayed, again, so carried anger ...not loving feelings ...
Absolutely regardless of everything else that’s going on
His tone of voice during the 911 call convinced me from the beginning he did it
Makes me sad for Tiffany because i been to her agency many times and its a very helpful one for the community. She left something that still lives on
Nobody shoots themselves twice - sorry. Aint happening. A ridiculous concept
They do, but it's usually men and it doesn't happen often. Usually if they only blow off half their face because the gun slips so they gather the last bit of energy and then they get a better shot into the head blowing out the brain- we gather that it must be a horrible feeling where you think "I can't even do this right" and it's really sad to think about.
Absolutely agree!💯
@@annief2239 No way…. Gathering a last bit of energy to do it again (that’s such BS!)
That's grotesque to give custody of the children to the parents of the parent who was convicted of murdering the other parent. Unbelievable.
Yeah, that's stupid because they can't keep the memory of their mom alive like her family could. On the other hand, if I was related to such a case I don't know if I would be able to say anything good about the parent that killed the other and that's also damaging for the children.
For example my father is an narcissistic abusive alcoholic criminal and the only reason he is not in jail is that he works with the police. And every time someone says I look like my father, I don't see it as a compliment.
@@annak8755 Yes I can attest to the hatred of being compared to an abusive parent.
My mother is a psychological and formerly violent abuser and serial adulteress. My dad was no angel either.
Obviously like all abusers my mother has her facade that she puts on for her friends and neighbours but it's so disgusting to me when people think that's she is nice because she basically buys their affection with gifts of items or money.
I can't even describe the anger and hatred.
Remember the mother was the police administration. This should be brought to court again, corruption!
IKR?!
It happens all the time.
I cannot believe her mom cried over her murderer son in law and not for her daughter who was murdered.
She's crying about the whole damn situation. Daughter being dead, son-in-law being responsible and that grandkids now being orphans.
I think it was a suicide.
@@Christina_320 nope
@@missingbitz9831 Ok so how do you think he did it then ?
@@Christina_320 Did you not watch the whole video? It's all there. And a jury, who saw more than we did, found him guilty.
"You understand the difference between in her hand and laying beside her.." lol, loved this reporter.😂
It’s almost breathtaking how totally naive Tiffany’s mother was toward her son-in-law…
He was a good actor, wasn't he?
Or maybe she's keeping her mouth shut because she wants to see her grandchildren.
Maybe the mother kept her mouth shut because she Wanted to see her grandchildren? Really!? I would rather see my grandchildren WithOut the presence of my daughters murderer! What would the mother do if her grandkids turned up mysteriously dead…stick by the suspected murderer? Please!😮 and frankly, I’m surprised the mother didn’t want to take custody of her grandchildren rather than leave them with him!
@Theun Knowntxter You honestly don't get what I'm saying...? It's unreal to me how many adults don't have any critical thinking skills. 🙄 Try to stay with me here.
Do you honestly think that he would have allowed her to see his children if she had accused him of being a murderer??? And it's not a matter of her WANTING custody. Do you think she would have been ABLE to get custody of them when he was free? Legally, he was innocent before he was convicted. Yeah, I'm sure he would have gladly just handed them over when she said to him, "You've a murderer, now give me my grandkids."
My God, I can't believe that I have to explain this to an adult...
Likely some sort of coping mechanism. Easy for us looking in to pick her behavior apart. It's also an edited program for TV with its own narrative as well.
I'm sorry but no one is going to shoot themselves twice in the head. That is just ridiculous. The first shot is going to be so excruciatingly painful that it would be debilitating
And usually when people who have survived suicide say they instantly regretted it when they jumped or shot themselves. I’ve never heard of anyone who didn’t regret trying.
For one highly unlikely thing to occur during a suicide is odd, but not entirely unbelievable. For several highly unlikely things to occur is entirely unbelievable. In this case, the husband expects everyone to believe that...
1) His wife opted to commit suicide via gun, even though women rarely commit suicide that way
...AND...
2) She decided to shoot with her left hand despite being right handed
...AND...
3) Despite being in the driver's seat of her vehicle, she somehow managed to hold and shoot the gun from at least a foot away from her head
...AND...
4) After shooting herself once, she shot herself again (still with her left hand from a foot away) for good measure.
To reiterate, on its own, any of those four aspects of the husband's story is hard to believe.... For all of these extremely rare and unlikely things to occur is impossible to believe.
Might I add, there was no blood on the floor of the car or the door or on the windows? That’s extremely weird
Epic comment, bro!
It's hard to argue with any of that, you nailed it. #4 never happens. If a person failed on the first shot, they most likely won't be alert and aware enough to fire a second. There's shock, fear, confusion (am I dead?) Just the volume inside a car is going to be unbearable.
@@diabolikmitchell2960 100% I agree. If you shot yourself once, there's no chance that you'd immediately realize that it "didn't take" and then decide to do it again.
5. the gun still being in her hand after she died.
22:41 How could they not check him for GSR?!? 😤
He told them she shot herself twice with her non dominant hand, were they supposed to not believe him??
I couldn’t believe that Tiffany’s mother Cheryl supported Jason. She kept saying ‘my son in law ‘ and not once did she refer to her daughter . She only attended court once during the trial and when she did , she was on the Stand saying how wonderful Jason was . She never attended court to hear the evidence against the man who possibly murdered her daughter . She fully supported him and his parents. Even when the verdict came through she was sitting behind Jason’s parents . It’s very odd that she never once questioned Jason’s guilt . If the verdict had been ‘ not guilty ‘ she would have readily accepted that her daughter committed suicide . And she even said she didn’t want to jeopardise his Appeal so wouldn’t say anything more to the 48 hour reporter .
Good that she finally spoke out during his sentencing .
I hope she contests Jason’s release in 14 yrs time, though I doubt she will . ( He has 15 yr minimum sentence)
It was disgusting that Jason’s parents brought the children along for sentencing . It was a tactic to garner sympathy for Jason but the judge is used to that! .
They should never have got custody of the children . They won’t keep the children’s mother’s memory alive in a good way . They’ll tell the children that their mother committed suicide and their father is innocent . The Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Probably cause the local sherriff's office paid her visits.
100% perfect observation. I agree 100%.
I agree with you 110 percent you are THE ONLY PERDON THAT MAKED THE TRUTH
Is she fancy her son in law?
@@katarzynamariamuszynska2811 "Is she fancy..." grammar?
I hate she lost her daughter, but Tiffiney’s mom’s behavior is really strange. She did not advocate for her daughter at all.
What do you mean? Maybe she believed it was a suicide. Literally the only reason it was even investigated as a homicide was because of the second shot, which isn't even as uncommon as they're making it out to be.
@@penskepc2374 No blood on the door or window on the side she shot herself...used her left hand rather than the right...shot herself from a distance with that door and window shut...and it goes on and on. He did it.
@@penskepc2374 A mother knows her daughters mind. She knew Tiffany would not do that - in fact she had spoken to her only a few hours previously. She is a weak-minded woman to support her daughters killer.
@@xxyes8879 I think ultimately the grandma is just trying to tow the line, and keep access to her grandbabies. They are with Jasons parents per Jasons request.
She wants to still see her grand babies I guess
I mean I don’t care how much you love your grandchildren, you don’t want to know even the details of how your daughter was killed!!!!!!!!!!!! It’s very weird 😢
ABSOLUTELY 💯 how she can turn away and not want to know is beyond reprehensible to me ....
Even the interviewer is trying real hard to hold back to try to not show his shock,disbelief at what he's hearing and disgust...but even he can't.
You don’t want to be hurt twice. Sometimes it’s a way of protecting themselves. She loved her son-in-law like her own so learning he killed her daughter would mean dying twice. It’s something you cannot comprehend if you’re not in her situation.
Lot of judgment in here. No way people can expect every human to have the same reactions. We all go through different things in life and handle them differently. Including grief.
Agreed
To all of the people trashing the victims mother, you might not understand but she is thinking of her grandchildren. Her daughter is gone, she is worried saying something will cause her not to be able to see them anymore. Shes in a hard position. I think shes also a little bit in denial in the beginning.
Proof that this can happen to anyone.. beyond sad. I’m also laughing out loud at how serious he tried to appear when answering if he killed her..
No way he killed her. That woman was a horse with rabies who had the second to understand that she has to go.
Laughing out loud, eh? You need help.
Yeah I’d bet money that his lawyers coached him to act as serious as he did on that 911 call in order to be able to say “See, that’s his nature and how he responds!” It’s obvious in my opinion.
@@Uvray Nah, people just give themselves away when they try and overdue an expression & it makes them look ridiculous
@@Uvray it's not that deep. Is this your first day on the internet?
When someone admits to an argument before a significant other goes missing or is killed, then you pretty much know it was them.... I mean this guy found out she had an affair, they were arguing, and then she ended up dead! Shot herself TWICE in the head, plus with her other hand! How could ANYONE believe he didn't do it!? He is guilty as sin!
What bothers me is “Who was there in support of the victim”? I am so thankful that the mom finally saw the light!!
The mom literally probably ruined her life, grandkids life, so yeah I guess she saw the light lol
Girl bye, I'm a woman and can plainly see that this gall was hardly a victim if she was not even just a one, but a two time-cheater. Not saying that anyone has the right to take anyone's life, but excuse me if I ain't gonna sit here and cry over someone who stretched the rope in the absolutely reckless way that this person seems to have done. Again, did I hear it correctly that she cheated on him not once but twice?! When people push others to that kind of limit, take them for that wild of an emotional ride, no one can complain then when that rope gets stretched too thin and eventually just breaks. He wasn't exactly the smartest in killing her tho, and in doing so totally allowing for her to destroy his life. He was angry at how he had allowed for her to play him for a fool, that anger blinded him and is what made him pull that trigger. It could have all been avoided if he had simply just left after the first time she cheated. They didn't have children, what made him stay after the first time she cheated?! That's what he was angry at, himself, because he didn't have the self respect to just leave the first time she did it; and because he didn't leave then she did it again, played him for a fool again. That's what killed him. It's time people understand something for once and for all, people will do what they will do, they can try to throw whatever bs they can try to throw at us, it's the way that we respond to it that determines who the fool is.
@@selmahare
1. If he met her when she was cheating on her first husband and still married her that's on HIM. Why on earth would anyone one think the person they're having an affair with will suddenly become faithful when married to them is beyond me. Love her, marry her if you want, but live with both eyes open. She has a history and he needed to pay attention to it. He didn't.
2. Let's not blame the victim. At all. Ever. Some people live wildly reckless lives and make stupidly insane mistakes. That is not, and never should be reason for them to be killed.
@@selmahare yea I sure tf didn't read that once you said your a woman, I don't think it matters if female or one of the lmfao community people
@@selmahare I don't care if she cheated a 100 times. He took her life. HER LIFE. I've been cheated but never once did I think about taking that person's life. That's no excuse.
It's always so insightful getting to hear from jury members in these episodes...not so frequent in these types of cases and rarely so where the suspect is caught in a lie. How in the world could the medical examiner for the defense have envisioned a way for poor Tiffiney to somehow shoot herself with her _left_ hand twice in the drivers seat at the angle the bullets entered??
Wait, Tiffany's mother didn't want to know all the details of the investigation so that it wouldn't "cloud her relationship" with the possible killer of her daughter?!?! OMG, that's sickening, even IF he was innocent, how do you NOT WANT to know what the investigation has found? One shot, a scream and a second shot; no contact wound in any of the 2 bullet entrances; the hand used was her non-dominant hand... Those details alone are extremely questionable in a suicide theory! With the pain she must've had after the first shot having shattered her jaw she was still strong enough to fire a second shot? Come on now... BTW, her mother is disgusting, she loved that killer way more than she loved her own daughter.
She’s probably a liberal.
Everything you said spot on. She betrayed her own daughter.
She's probably self hating herself and would have preferred a son instead of a daughter, and because she didn't, she thinks men have their right to do whatever they please. Her poor daughter was probably mentally and emotionally damaged by her.
People have shot themselves twice, put the gun back where they got it and then walk around the house doing things and then die from blood loss.
It can and has happened.
Wow am I thankful I have a loving mother who no matter what is Always on my side ..poor girl 😢
Did they check for gun residue? I cannot believe they didn't check him for gun residue. It's crazy how she would use her nondominent hand holding the gun 10 inches away and shoot herself twice, that doesn't even make sense.
Seems like they didn't want the guy to be investigated, right?
3:00 no blood or GSR mentioned here
I couldn't believe this either or that they didn't bother to search his house for bloody clothes. Shoddy police work almost got the killer off SMH
They sure they didn’t know who his MiL was when they first got there? That could be why nothing was done correctly.
Not to mention that "the first shot in the jaw" would most definitely knock her unconscious. Just think about it. That "medical witness" for defense is full of crap.
No blood on the window is damning evidence it was Jason standing outside the van, holding the gun and shooting his wife. Cheryl is an incredibly strong and compassionate woman. I think the grandchildren will be all right as long as she's a big part of their lives.
If there should be blood on the closed door, where did that blood go with the open door scenario? There's still no blood on the ground
@@03817 exactly. There was no blood on him nor gun residue on his hands. I don't think he did it.
Glad if he gets a second chance after 15 years if his sentence is not over turned. He was convinced with very slim evidence.
@@principecaprincipeca2243 the police didn't test him for gun residue, and they didn't search his house for blood/ bloody clothes.
@@goldandbabyfoxfur so there was and is not any physical evidence at all against him.
I am a true crime addict and this is one of the few cases I think they got it wrong.
There just wasn't enough proof. Every "proof" was and is possible to explain away. There isn't any actual proof he did it or that she didn't commit self unaliving.
She was dumped by her lover, her husband had found out about her affair, she was drinking heavily and was about to loose everything.
So what if she had contacted a therapist the precious day. It doesn't mean she wasn't suicd@l, vice versa.
She didn't know the previous day that her husband is going to find out her infidelity. She thought she could just go on with the marriage and spit out her guilty conscience to a therapist, but that wouldn't happen because her husband kicked her out.
She had every reason to unalive herself. There is more proof for her doing it to herself than him doing it.
They convinced him by the way he is, by his character and by his past being cheated before.
And that detective shouting, swearing and lying about the polygraph test was way out of control and inappropriate. He couldn't brake him, so he lost it.
I sure hope they appeal and get his verdict overturned. And if not, that he gets our in 15 years.
The justice wasn't served in this case.
@@principecaprincipeca2243 agreed
I'm gonna express some very very unpopular opinions right now:
1. As someone who has the most unexpected reactions to high stress situations, putting so much emphesis on 911 calls is not a very good idea. Some people just can't process what's going on like the average person.
2. Saying someone would NOT commit suicide because they didn't look like it is ignorant. In this case she has written in her diary that she was struggling, her friends said her lover had broken up with her and she learned that her husband had found out about the affair. Statistically suicide is much more a spur of the moment decision as opposed to a calculated and thought out one.
3. I liked the attitude of her mom a lot. It was the most logical, objective and realistic outlook throughout the whole episode. She was right, no one won this case.
I don't disagree with any of that. I think people make decisions on guilt for the wrong reasons a lot of the time. But I still think he did it, for other reasons. You don't dispute what the medical examiner had to say.
@@BlueCyann Yes, I think he very likely did it too. The angle of the gun, the fact that there were two shots all point to him. but I just disagree with some comments made in the video and the majority of comments down here.
@@mahdokhtnikakhlaq1937Fair enough.
@BlueCyann which medical expert? Because the defense had a far more competent and experienced expert who had been in the field for about as long as the prosecutors expert had been alive. An "expert" who made assertions that are ridiculous such as "why isn't there blood on the window?" When there was blood filling the cup holders. Uh because she shot herself from the left to the right, and if what she says is true. Why isn't there blood on the ground outside the car? Defense expert medical witness: all evidence indicative of suicide.
Definitely agree with #2!
I can’t believe Tiffany’s mother supported Jason. And worse, she didn’t attend the trial. If it were my child murdered, I’d be in that court room everyday and make sure justice was served.
And you’re not her
You don’t know her childhood traumas. Life experience. Beliefs. Grief of losing your daughter. Manipulation he said to her…
You didn’t finish the video
I can’t either. She changed her support at the VERY END. Too little too late
What are you talking about?? She testified. Twice.
I just don’t understand Tiffany’s mother. She’s maybe one of those people who sees everyone’s side. My grief wouldn’t allow it. No.
I do understand her. There's no evidence what so ever that he did it.
@@colbypatterson8273 she wanted to see her grandkids.
"😢You know, this was my son in law" "We had a great bond." WHAT ABOUT YOU'RE OWN DAUGHTER?! YOUR OWN FLESH AND BLOOD?! 🤬
It was heart breaking to see a mother not upset and seeking justice for her slain daughter, and I figured she was doing that so that she would continue to have access to her grand children. She seemed to mirror her son in law's pragmatic disposition. Then they show her the evidence and she comes out of her stupor and shows the despair of the loss of her daughter and in front of her grandchildren. Jason has a hold on his mother in law.
Or maybe the mother just believes he's innocent?? You have no proof that he's guilty. You're just going off of emotion. Shocking 🥱
Coz she know her daughter 😂 have another man..
Am I the only person who understands why the mother is doing this? She wants a relationship with her grandchildren! He can prevent that just bc, let alone testifying against him. The grandchildren are all she has left of her daughter. I would hope she will change her mind as the children get older, or if her family has custody of the kids.
Cheating is dangerous. I cheated on my first husband w/my second husband. That was 37 years ago and I am still married to my 2nd…. Never cheated again…. It isn’t right. It causes too much pain. But, it was always in the back of my mind that anger, and pain can cause some people to do horrible things.
Money motives are powerful
Her daughter was married to another man when she started an affair with this guy. She was married to this guy & had two children and was in a relationship with another man.
And her current husband was leading a normal life as a single parent prior to meeting her and was perfectly normal thru his marriage with her - no abuse, no cheating . Maybe her Mother found it difficult to empathize with her daughter to accept him as her killer
I remember a story where a guy tried committing suicide but pulled that gun away at the last moment and shot his chin off I believe. He was so messed up that he was unable to shoot again, he went unconscious and then died from the blood loss. Can’t remember the specifics completely, but there’s no way a small woman can shoot herself twice. I believe she would’ve went unconscious from the pain and shock from the first shot.
There's some crazy videos of people who are still awake and moving after a failed suicide attempt where they blow the entire face off. Pure adrenaline keeping them going
@@wompppwompwompppI wouldn’t want to see that ever
"Do you think Tiffany would say you're a murderer?"
"No, I don't think so"
GUILTY
😂
The mother really disgusted me during the investigation and trial. She completely abandoned her daughter. She couldn't deal with the truth, so she buried her head in the sand. I'm glad she finally came around to support her daughter. This is exactly what sociopaths do. They lie very convincingly.
Her mom seems to care more about him than her own daughter 😮
Exactly! I was thinking the same thing. And then the grandchildren are staying with Jason's parents????? How did that happen?
No she became a grandma and was thinking of those babies.
Yes!!
@@dr.jenniferma3914 I was married to her and it's very strange but she did like my daughter's killer. I refuse to say his name.
@@GWebbPhotographyI'm convinced she was having a fling with him and Tiffany found out about it. Her behavior is weird and disgusting. No regard for the fact that her daughter had just been murdered.
Also, I'm incredibly sorry that you were married to that piece of human garbage. I hope you're doing well in life now 💜
Tiffiney's Mama was giving more support to her son in law than her own daughter that was killed. tf!?
Because she thought he was innocent. A lot of people do. it's not so shocking. Plus you already said she didn't want her relationship with her grandkids to be spoiled. People are spiteful.
I also think it was because she didn't attend the trial only to testify and didn't know all the evidence because when she found out she changed. I was like I can't believe she's supporting him over her daughter
I was floored watching this.
I believe its because his family has her grand children and wants to be apart of thier lives no matter what...i believe she knows its him but thats all that is left of her daughter and thats whatshe wants to hold on to..also if you watch her at 26:34 she is shaking her head while defending him
I was going to church, volunteering, and had done an evaluation with a counselor, but had thoughts of suicide. I never told anyone. Usually the people who are serious about it don’t tell anyone. I did attempt it, too. Have had thoughts of it since and I now have a loving husband and two children. So people saying ‘oh no, she seemed fine, she was helping people and started seeing a counselor’ doesn’t mean anything.
Regardless of the verdict or what actually happened in this particular case, people need to keep that in mind. People often commit suicide when no one saw it coming.
But just because YOU had suicidal thoughts you never spoke about it, doesn't mean that she was suicidal and killed herself.
@@shelliedavis did you read the second half of what I said? I was saying that it doesn’t necessarily apply to this case. It’s just that a lot of the family and friends in the video kept saying she didn’t seem suicidal. It brought to mind how often people say that in general. I’m not saying that SHE committed suicide though.
Edit: I’m simply saying that I hope people keep that in mind in general when hearing things in this video. Just because someone has everything going for them, it doesn’t mean they’re okay on the inside.
@@melissajenkins9960 You're absolutely correct. Depression doesn't look any one way. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it isn't. I just can't stand when people IGNORE facts that point toward homicide, simply because the victim experienced depression. There are SO many people in the world that experience depression and don't want to die at all.
I'm glad you're still here. 💛
I never told anyone either.
What a stupid reason the juror said that decided their conviction. He might’ve just seen the bright pink handle and not the hand….but if he put the gun in her hand as the prosecution says…wouldn’t he have known it was in her hand?????? For me, this points more toward innocence.
Exactly! They are using choice of words to determine who’s guilty or not. It’s beyond shameful. There was zero evidence besides choice of words.
Her mother's attitude was SICKENING. You should be ashamed of yourself.
what ? she said Jason was guilty. What else do you want?
She didn’t wanna be stuck taking care of the kids I guess
I would hate to have people around me who judge so recklessly. Tragedy takes all kinds of emotions.
@@leithsapitan1428 get lost.
@@EgyptianGoddess You people are so quick to judge a person you don't even know. Like a bunch of vultures.
I can't help but to feel like his reaction to her "suicide" was not normal. I would imagine seeing someone you love dying or dead in front of you would at least evoke some type of emotion.
except he had every reason to not love her at that point, if it was suicide, he had every reason to say you deserve this at that point even if he didnt do it, there is just too much doubt in this case and the prosecution should have been made to work harder to get a conviction!
@@gbemisolaagboola8255 - No, he had no reason. She cheated, big deal. Not a death sentence. It showed how angry and remorseless he was because he murdered her.
I hate this kind of argument, to be honest. Everybody's different, and far too many innocent people have been persecuted or convicted from somebody's idea of inappropriate emotional response.. He did not feel right when the cops showed up, but the emotion wasn't the problem. Rather, what he said sounded like he was telling a story, not like he was actually remembering something that had just happened. I've had to talk to the police before about a violent crime that just happened; it just doesn't sound like that. You backtrack, you correct yourself, you add things. You think a lot, trying to make sure you're remembering and retelling it accurately. It's nothing like this. Edit: He used the exact same words to the Dateline person! Totally a memorized story.