My daughter was watching this and every time I came to the living room I asked if she was still watching the show cause knuckles was nowhere to be found
I just don't understand why they make these shows with CGI "main characters" and then sideline them for obvious reasons, CGI costs money. If they aren't prepared to make the main character the focus of the story, then the show is pointless, because people want to watch for the character on the title. This happens way too often.
Yea, and I don't get it, why the hell don't they just go the route of the super mario movie, and make the whole thing CG? Then all the characters look like each other and its not so jarring in the mixed scenes.
Knuckles was a pretty good side character, they should give him his own series one day like Imagine having a show called knuckles and have 90% of the show focus on a random comedic relief character. Yeah I’m sure that’s exactly what people were wanting from this show
What the audience wanted: *An action-packed adventure starring everyone's favorite echidna* What Paramount delivered: *A crappy 90s sitcom with Sonic characters making a cameo every once in a while*
Yeah the show just feels like it’s trying to appeal to people who are mildly interested but In these but only because of the humans instead of trying to appeal to actual fans of this series
*I HATED Wade's family lol 😂.* The sister was nearly unbearable to me. The mother was ok, and Cary Elwes was awesome as always. Oh, and Knuckles was there...
My 8 year old boy is a huuuuuuge Sonic fan. We have been counting the days for this show to come out. There were some cool parts but during episode 3 he looks at me and says, “can we fast forward this? His sister is weird.” Lol
My son is 6 overall he really like it, helps that he was building a lego at the same time so he he didn't get too bored, he did totally stopped watching during the random rock opera scene
@@whaleping Those are the main characters in the story. Who in the world wants Wade over Knuckles, you really telling me you're OK with this? WTH is Wade in the entire Universe? They could've added any other character in the Sonic Universe, which are a lot.
@@whaleping Once again those are cross-overs and main characters in the Universe. These humans, in this show are not even Canon amongst the others already in the Sonic Comics. Nobody likes the issues that focus on the humans.
What is with this trend where a show is called "Knuckles" or "Obi-Wan" and SO many more and the show is literally not about them and you rarely ever see them. Its like playing God of War Ragnarok and you can't even play as Kratos. I remember playing Phantom Pain and they did it so well that they hinted you were not Solid Snake but you were led to believe you were so you could spread his legend even more.
There are some fans out there that call it the "bait-and-switch" effect. Put simply, studios hype up the audience for a character you came to see only to then later on focus on another character you never came to see.
That whole "Flames of Disaster" and "Knuckles totally fought and beat Iblis" is such a deviation from the canon, i have no idea what the writing team is doing.
@@Churrowhisperer Except they play it seriously by Knuckles gaining the power he apparently got from beating Iblis. If they want to just be a silly comedy then don't bring lore into it. The excuse doesn't hold up.
@@Biostar96 Well if it makes you feel any better that demon he fought wasn’t Iblis, it’s called fire demon in the credits and its puppeteers were credited as “fire demon puppeteers”. So they can still introduce Iblis as a separate character in a future movie.
@@Biostar96 Yeah but it’s clear they’re just taking different terms and concepts from throughout the sonic games and using them for their story. They can still just use the real Iblis in a future sonic movie without calling him the flames of disaster, simple solution.
I don't understand this. People wanted to see Knuckles, right? So...why make the series centered around someone else who is not only NOT Knuckles, but the DIRECT opposite of him? It boggles the mind.
@@mikew1990hellobruh, that shit’s based, but crazy. I’m working in a hot ass warehouse, so that fan is a MUST. But damn, imagine the zenkai boosts I’d gain from heat training.
As someone who is a massive Sonic fan and a fan of the movies as well, I absolutely hated this show. This show is just cringe all around and a complete waste of time. How the critics rated this HIGHER than Sonic 1 and 2 is beyond me.
I respect your right to like those movies, but I just dont get how you can like both of those. They're like 10% good, with the other 90% of it being cringe garbage.
@@NotoriousTim highly disagree lol. First one was a generic animal and human adventure but it had heart and Sonic didn't feel sidelined unlike this show. Plus Tom Wachowski is actually extremely likeable, Wade just isn't. Sonic 2 was amazing imo and really respected the games and it's characters. This show just exists and adds pretty much nothing to the franchise.
@@BlueBlur2003 I don't completely agree with you, the first movie was pretty bad. The second one had major improvements, but still had 45 minutes of pure filler of humans doing things because it's cheaper. Also shocked people like the Knuckles series, it's all the worst aspecta of the first movie dialed to 11.
It feels like a cash-in tbh. Like they need to make a human-focused show to save costs but need a spinoff to get money from viewers who liked the movies.
Angry Joe would make a great Superman. And after that gotta go fast I am convinced he would make a good sonic too. Also OJ being nightwing and Alex being Batman. Perfect casting! Make this happen! lol XD
1:20:59 They are making a reference to Shadow as a way to hype up the 3rd movie, in a really strange and shoehorned way. In Sonic 2's Post Credits Scene, they mention Project Shadow, a research project that G.U.N. was conducting, and if it's like the games, it's their answer to the Ultimate Weapon and Eternal Life, hence Shadow's name as The Ultimate Life Form. While it'll probably work differently to the games, they do get a few things the same way, such as how Shadow is a Research Project that G.U.N. was somewhat in charge of, and the time of events. In Sonic 2 they mention that the project was from 50 Years ago, just like how The Ark, the Research Station Shadow was created on was abandoned, and how long Shadow was in stasis on Prison Island in Sonic Adventure 2 before being awoken by Eggman. The reason the announcers specifically say 1974 is because that is 50 years before 2024, and that's why they say he wasn't Red. As to why the hell they're talking about Shadow going Bowling or in any sort of sports? No fucking clue, it's really stupid no matter how you look at it. This show didn't have the proper wrap up to Knuckles' story as is, no way they'd do a cool tie in scene for the 3rd movie.
I fucking LOVED this. I personally think Wade & Knuckles is a better dynamic and more relatable than Tom & Sonic. I think this is on par with the second movie and a fantastic prequel to Sonic 3
I'm totally with Alex, I didn't make it past the Doritos scene. I just fucking "NOPE'D" right out.... Bummer, I liked the first movie. Was surprised when this dropped, and then disappointed. LOL
My 3 year old loves the first 2 sonic movies and was super excited for this series. Halfway into episode 2 he got up and started playing in the other room 😂 I asked if he wanted me to pause so he could watch later and he goes “no I don’t like it” so even a 3 year old can tell this was dogshit
So fun fact. Sonic fans have been divided since 2005. They have not agreed on a single issue regarding Sonic between that year and now. And if you think this miniseries is an exception, it is currently at a higher rating than both the first and second Sonic movies. Sonic fans are divided on this too.
@@biodock2003 They weren't united with Generations and Mania at all. Mania definitely not. There were mixed opinions about that game right out the gate and people are still divided on it to this very day. And this happened with Generations too because purists didn't like the remixes of City Escape. And it'll happen again with Sonic X Shadow Generations because now there's talk that the Shadow segments are using the same engine as Forces.
I wouldn't say "divided". There were disagreements, but atleast they all still enjoyed the franchise for what it was. I don't think i've ever seen them actualy divided, its more like critical of the series. The main moment they started to get divided was when Colors debuted, and after the bad games released after Generations.
reminds me of 2023 video game awards where its 1% about quickly wrapping up all them unimportant video game stuff and 99% about promoting artists+sponsors+ads nobody care.
The distance monologue joke came from Shazam! Dr Shivala or whatever was talking to Billy from a distance and Billy hadnt learned super hearing at the time.
This is exactly what scared people into thinking on what to expect when they hear Sonic arriving to theatres of course they were proven wrong but now, well, this happened Hope to god Sonic 3 rectify's this mistake
I personally thought it was enjoyable but I still agree with all the people that have problems with the show because it does have quite a few issues and questionable decisions. I think a funny detail is that the 4th episode has the least amount of knuckles screen time yet it seems to be the most focused on knuckles in terms of people talking/singing about him
2:55 The plot sounds like a sitcom from the 80’s or 90’s. Just good ridiculous goofy fun. The original Night Court… now that’s a funny sitcom! That manages to incorporate officers lawyers judges and a courthouse…and all the funnier for it.
I will give them this.. I was not expecting an Alan Wake 2 music video parody in my Knuckles tv show. I was equally surprised, confused and disappointed but at least they managed to surprise me.
@@xUseTheForks It sucked. Absolute disregard for the lore and continuity of the games, the humor was pure cringe, and the writing was shit. It seems it's only getting praise because the Halo TV show was bad, but being better than that trainwreck is extremely easy. Basically ya'll people are way too easy to please. Give it like half a year and the 5 hours yotuube videos saying that it actually sucks will pop up.
I'll say right now, I think Episode 4 is going to end up being what is known as the 'unreliable narrator', where we're told some things about the past and they turn out to only be a partial truth, or completely false because it's just Wade dreaming it up.
This was terrible and i hope they don't have a him gun agent running joke in shadow. Im scared for shadow now cus i was hoping more planet mobius and the chaotix. And we got wade. I love the knuckles solo run comics and was hoping for that paramount just made this terrible.
I loved the jewish dinner episode. It makes for a great contrast and relatability scene showing how Knuckles is so culturally different just how being a Jew is very culturally different so it becomes relatable
I dont know why everyone is so surprised by the fact that Wade is the main focus. You could tell by the trailer that the human characters would be a big part of the show.
Ok ok there's one human they can't get rid of for the series and that's the GUN commander.....because he actually has a history with shadow. He was on the Ark 50 years ago when shadow was created and was a close friend to Maria. So having that and having the ideal that shadow is what caused the Ark to be destroyed 50 years ago paints a very faint but understandable dynamic between Shadow and the gun commander.
What makes little sense to me (as someone who kind of enjoyed this show) is the Flames of Disaster, Knuckles' new power...IS the demon Iblis, the same guy in the rock opera bit, IIRC. He's punching the demon with himself in another form! Edit: I don't know why they didn't just go with Chaos, the actual reason the echidnas were wiped out, again IIRC.
I'll help break this down: 1. For me (A sonic fan all my life since 93): I don't like it. 2. As an adult hardcore sonic fan: you won't like it. 3. As a child hardcore sonic fan: you might like it. 4. As a family show: you'll probably like it.
@@pacmancdi I'm glad more people are noticing this. It kind of makes one wonder if there's a long term reason these movies have so many similarities and references to Sonic X in them. Oh no. Does that mean Wade is the Sonic Cinematic Universe version of Chris Thorndyke? Let's see... Human character befriends anthropomorphic character, CHECK. Human character has personal family issues with his parents, CHECK. Human character is not liked by Sonic fans, CHECK. He IS Chris Thorndyke, folks... He is f---ing Chris Thorndyke...
@@pacmancdi Let's be real. The main reason it's still popular is because of a certain green haired plant girl in the third season. And if Paramount somehow gets the rights to that saga and she ever shows up in a mid credits scene, we're going to see a theater full of people going absolutely crazy.
Well glad someone suffered this lol. The first episode seriously seems like the subscription trap to put on youtube, because it was working in some ways at least.
After Finishing watching the Knuckles Series and honestly it would have been better as a Movie but I Enjoyed it for the Most Part, sure Wade was the Main Focus but I knew that it would have been expensive to make a CGI Character the Main Focus in a Series but I have Fun, I will admit that in the Future of this Cinematic Universe there how to limit the Human Cast and focus on the Real Stars but because this is a Start I give it a Pass for Now and who knows maybe putting humor is to balance out the Sonic 3 Movie to be Serious, I have to say that this show isn’t the worst thing to ever happen to the Sonic Franchise, that would be Forces, and I will admit that one thing I will admit with Everyone is Wanda(although that Finger Scene made me Laugh so Hard like in Episode 2 Knuckles imagining to do a MK2 Jax Fatality) and there’s no way she’s FBI and we better not see a Sonic Spinoff with Her, I enjoy the Series that it’s a 7 out of 10, the only way this Knuckles Project would have worked was if it was a Movie or a Animated Series with Angel Island, Rouge, and the Chaotix but I had Fun and I loved the References from past Game like Tails Bed being Purple like the Tornado 2, the Beginning being a Homage to the Games, Shadow being hinted at a Event of 1974, The Buyer maybe being connected to either Ivo or Gerald, the Rogue Agents interesting Motivations to Neutralize the Morbians as Humanity Fears what they don’t understand, Knuckles getting his Hat and Love for Music, and that Musical being Fun to watch with 2 amazing references to 06 with Iblis and the Flames of Disaster, 7 out of 10.
My son watched it, he liked it. I checked out after the 1st. The guy annoyed me too much. Just like new Transformers movie focused too much on the human(s).
My 7 year old loves Sonic. Could watch the movies over and over. He totally checked out during Knuckles. I was beyond disappointed and was also saying it should be called Wade Whipple cause Knuckles was BARELY in the whole thing.
This show was even worse for Sonic fans. Knuckles' spirit guide, Pachacamac, is a genocidal monster who single-handedly caused the extinction of the echidna race (and had his daughter trampled to death for questioning him). And THIS is what they made of that. Also, he was pivotal to the arguably the most popular Sonic story ever so they just THREW that whole thing away for this... non-joke. It's hilarious Paramount thinks they can launch a Cinematic Universe with this. And very sad.
@@NicheXCC What I'm getting at is that in my opinion this was a horribly written show that paid attention to a side character we don't care at ALL about
The main problem with these live action movies and shows, it cost an inane amount of money to make a show/film purely focused on 100% CGI characters and that's why in the last two movies there were human dedicated scenes like in Sonic 2 to save costs and pan out run time. I'm worried about Sonic 3 cause if we have Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and then Shadow. That's already 4 CGI characters maybe more so I'm expecting a longer human dedicated scene again to pan out runtime and give false expectations that the movie is gonna be epic while it may not deliver.
Hey Joe, will you be taking a look at sea of thieves again now that it's launched on PS5? I'm one of the gameplay devs, I know you don't like going back to live service games which you didn't initially enjoy but I'd love to see your thoughts on how the game has evolved. ☠️
I knew from the first commercial I saw for Knuckles that it was going to suck. They brought back the useless "deputy" Wade from the first movie for no reason.
@@natediaz1863 I got given a new house phone number ages ago and still get telemarking calls from whoever used to have that number. I even once got called by the dudes cousin or something saying his Aunt had died and I had that number for 5 years by that point. Whoever had the number before me must have been an epic loser.
They use the name in the title to get you to watch it. But the reality is they simply won't invest the money needed for good writing and paying a good voice actor. They just need you to start watching or sit your kids in front of the tv
I’m a simple man: I like my Joes angry and my Alexes impossible to please.
Touché
@@gent-47you mean perturbed pedro?
And my other Joes that make everything you watch more enjoyable with their presence and jokes.
Same, just a simple man looking for any bright spots in the darkest timeline.
You came to the right place 🤙🏼
My daughter was watching this and every time I came to the living room I asked if she was still watching the show cause knuckles was nowhere to be found
Fasha I will finish the series so you don't suffer.
I lost brain cells watching this shit...
You’re a horrible parent wow
@@theghostofsparta4528 How????
I just don't understand why they make these shows with CGI "main characters" and then sideline them for obvious reasons, CGI costs money. If they aren't prepared to make the main character the focus of the story, then the show is pointless, because people want to watch for the character on the title. This happens way too often.
just like godzilla and kong movies. focusing too much on boring hoomies.
or transformers too
@@kukuhimanputraraharja8084no its fun assholes
XD probably would e better off making an animated series
Yea, and I don't get it, why the hell don't they just go the route of the super mario movie, and make the whole thing CG? Then all the characters look like each other and its not so jarring in the mixed scenes.
We wanted da Wae, but instead we got da Wade 😢
@@gent-47 Excellent argument. Approved.
Good stuff
Ill give u an E for effort
Hahaaaaa, I like that one.
They need to title one of the episodes "Do you know, De Wade?"
Eh
"people are loving this television show and those people are voting" Alex with 0 chill... I love the dude
Knuckles was a pretty good side character, they should give him his own series one day like Imagine having a show called knuckles and have 90% of the show focus on a random comedic relief character. Yeah I’m sure that’s exactly what people were wanting from this show
I was gonna say I’m sorry this isn’t the knuckles show, and then I’m reminded, he was brushed aside for wade, it’s basically is The Wade show.
I mean knuckles was in every episode
Not surprised now a days, they just use characters to draw people in and then cut costs.
@@Damnitgary yeah... But his screen time... Onyx in the first and second episode it's somewhat okay, others NO
@illyanesterenko8930 like I said. Knuckles was in every episode. Before I want a Knuckles specific series, I expect a Knuckles specific movie
What the audience wanted: *An action-packed adventure starring everyone's favorite echidna*
What Paramount delivered: *A crappy 90s sitcom with Sonic characters making a cameo every once in a while*
Yeah the show just feels like it’s trying to appeal to people who are mildly interested but In these but only because of the humans instead of trying to appeal to actual fans of this series
I was thinking the Bowling tournament plot point seemed very 90s or early 2000s, it seem random and kinda out of place in the Sonic movie universe
I love watching these reviews of movies and shows I have no intention of watching
Me too! 😂
Same bro
Yeah this one is a special type of trash
My literal crack
Same even having paramount+ free I've only watched a South Park movie.
*I HATED Wade's family lol 😂.* The sister was nearly unbearable to me. The mother was ok, and Cary Elwes was awesome as always. Oh, and Knuckles was there...
I hated the mother. I was internally screaming, "DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR OFFSPRINGS!!!"
The weird Israel ball fondling stuff in that episode was also 🤢
Conflating Judaism with Israel is so fucking cringe
The fact that she was openly assaulting wade and the mother got upset at WADE made my blood boil
The fact that Cary Elwes is in this is why I'm going to watch it now thank you.
Dad was right to leave
My 8 year old boy is a huuuuuuge Sonic fan. We have been counting the days for this show to come out. There were some cool parts but during episode 3 he looks at me and says, “can we fast forward this? His sister is weird.” Lol
Man kids getting smart?! I thought they would love it anyways
@@TheSpeedfoever overall he said I give it a seven lol
@@LexLuthaThat's still less then your average SonicTubers, lol.
😂😂😂😂😂
My son is 6 overall he really like it, helps that he was building a lego at the same time so he he didn't get too bored, he did totally stopped watching during the random rock opera scene
Hollywood fails to realize we don't care about humans in a creature film!
Except Dr. Robotnik and Mario
But that's the thing. They want the IP for an audience base, but it's all a cover for their own shitty selfmade show. It's literally all ego.
@@goofball1_134 Read Archie Sonic or Sonic the Comic. The only reason they last long is because of the extra characters.
@@whaleping Those are the main characters in the story. Who in the world wants Wade over Knuckles, you really telling me you're OK with this? WTH is Wade in the entire Universe? They could've added any other character in the Sonic Universe, which are a lot.
@@whaleping Once again those are cross-overs and main characters in the Universe. These humans, in this show are not even Canon amongst the others already in the Sonic Comics. Nobody likes the issues that focus on the humans.
I like Alex's resentment to the wedding scene in Sonic 2
What is with this trend where a show is called "Knuckles" or "Obi-Wan" and SO many more and the show is literally not about them and you rarely ever see them. Its like playing God of War Ragnarok and you can't even play as Kratos. I remember playing Phantom Pain and they did it so well that they hinted you were not Solid Snake but you were led to believe you were so you could spread his legend even more.
Because you wouldn't watch it if it was called "Wade" or "Reva"
And they could afford Idris Elba for more voice acting
I'm pretty sure they did this with Scott pilgrim anime. Sucks pretty bad
There are some fans out there that call it the "bait-and-switch" effect.
Put simply, studios hype up the audience for a character you came to see only to then later on focus on another character you never came to see.
You mean “Naked” Snake, not Solid. Naked is Big Boss, Solid is his son, but youre right it worked pretty well
I really thought this was knuckles no its wade Whipple anime backstory
Fuck this show, they really made Knuckles a side character in his own show.
“Okay here’s the clip”
No clip at all
“Okay I don’t know how much of the clip I could show.”
Oh it’s a show? I thought it was gonna be a movie.
No, the movie is going to be about Sonic vs. Shadow
@@DanielZeal That would be sick. I hope Shadow has guns (reference).
@@green7449naaah
It's basically a movie cut into 6 parts.
@@darthkai8242 Did none of you follow the news saying it was gonna be a series?
That whole "Flames of Disaster" and "Knuckles totally fought and beat Iblis" is such a deviation from the canon, i have no idea what the writing team is doing.
Well it was just a dream sequence that was mainly an excuse to have a rock opera scene, I wouldn’t take it too seriously.
@@Churrowhisperer Except they play it seriously by Knuckles gaining the power he apparently got from beating Iblis. If they want to just be a silly comedy then don't bring lore into it. The excuse doesn't hold up.
@@Biostar96 Well if it makes you feel any better that demon he fought wasn’t Iblis, it’s called fire demon in the credits and its puppeteers were credited as “fire demon puppeteers”. So they can still introduce Iblis as a separate character in a future movie.
@@Churrowhisperer The call the power "The Flames of Disaster" which was another name for Iblis. It's obvious what they were doing.
@@Biostar96 Yeah but it’s clear they’re just taking different terms and concepts from throughout the sonic games and using them for their story. They can still just use the real Iblis in a future sonic movie without calling him the flames of disaster, simple solution.
All ima say is me and my girl are the type to enjoy or try to enjoy whatever we watch. But this was something else 😂
They cut out Alex’s rant at 26:00 mark 🤣🤣🤣
What did he say?
I thought "Nice save."
Joe probably said or almost said the gamer word again lol
I felt dumber after watching Knuckles
I fell asleep.
It's a Sonic series what did you expect
@@luckymark571I expected better after the movies
Shut up, it isnt bad lol
@@xUseTheForkswhy? You dumb?? We've known since it was announced that it was gonna be a mini series about knuckles and wade
I don't understand this. People wanted to see Knuckles, right? So...why make the series centered around someone else who is not only NOT Knuckles, but the DIRECT opposite of him? It boggles the mind.
Because the fans will justify it nomatter how much they butcher the lore.
23:25 Oh you mean like how they did with TMNT Mutant Mayhem?
The movie us
Five on it 😂😂😂
Joe’s, send me Alex’s workout routine 🙏🏻
Eat donuts and play hearthstone
Obviously, 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 pull-ups, every day.
@@whistlerwadedon't forget the 10k run
And never use the heating in winter or the AC in summer
@@mikew1990hellobruh, that shit’s based, but crazy. I’m working in a hot ass warehouse, so that fan is a MUST. But damn, imagine the zenkai boosts I’d gain from heat training.
I don't have Paramount Plus, I wasn't gonna watch this anyway. But I'm glad you guys are suffering through it.
Show should've been called "Wade and Knuckles". Would've set the stage better and made people less annoyed.
And it's better referenced.☝🏻😉
As someone who is a massive Sonic fan and a fan of the movies as well, I absolutely hated this show. This show is just cringe all around and a complete waste of time. How the critics rated this HIGHER than Sonic 1 and 2 is beyond me.
Wade is a white man so "woke" is not an excuse
I respect your right to like those movies, but I just dont get how you can like both of those. They're like 10% good, with the other 90% of it being cringe garbage.
@@NotoriousTim highly disagree lol. First one was a generic animal and human adventure but it had heart and Sonic didn't feel sidelined unlike this show. Plus Tom Wachowski is actually extremely likeable, Wade just isn't.
Sonic 2 was amazing imo and really respected the games and it's characters.
This show just exists and adds pretty much nothing to the franchise.
Critics are right for once and i agree
@@BlueBlur2003 I don't completely agree with you, the first movie was pretty bad. The second one had major improvements, but still had 45 minutes of pure filler of humans doing things because it's cheaper. Also shocked people like the Knuckles series, it's all the worst aspecta of the first movie dialed to 11.
If this was like a 90 minute spinoff movie, I probably wouldn't mind it that much. The fact that its a show makes it all the more egregious though.
Meh, it was expected the movies were alright too nothing special
@@luckymark571 I love the movies and this really dissapointed me. Didn't need to be a six episode series at all
It feels like a cash-in tbh. Like they need to make a human-focused show to save costs but need a spinoff to get money from viewers who liked the movies.
They hired the likes of Kid Cudi, Rory McCann and Christopher Lloyd for this series… *AND WASTED ALL OF THEM!*
Cudi is into Sonic lore like some people are into warhammer too
At least, Kid Cudi had a lot of fun on each set. I can really tell. Lol
Bruh, we could've gotten Knuckles vs the friggin HOUND!!!! And this is what we get!!! We was robbed!
Knuckles was the _2nd lead_ in his own GD show!!! 😠
To understand the sister, watch Righteous Gemstones. She still sucks.
My son is 8 and hated this show. Even he was saying the fat guy is cringe 😂
What?! Kids support to love it come on!
@@TheSpeedfoeverKids are going to forget this series in 5 years.
@@NicheXCC or even lesser
yeah the whole show is cringe ..
@@The_Legend117 cringe and just an un enjoyable mess
Angry Joe would make a great Superman. And after that gotta go fast I am convinced he would make a good sonic too. Also OJ being nightwing and Alex being Batman. Perfect casting! Make this happen! lol XD
1:20:59 They are making a reference to Shadow as a way to hype up the 3rd movie, in a really strange and shoehorned way. In Sonic 2's Post Credits Scene, they mention Project Shadow, a research project that G.U.N. was conducting, and if it's like the games, it's their answer to the Ultimate Weapon and Eternal Life, hence Shadow's name as The Ultimate Life Form. While it'll probably work differently to the games, they do get a few things the same way, such as how Shadow is a Research Project that G.U.N. was somewhat in charge of, and the time of events. In Sonic 2 they mention that the project was from 50 Years ago, just like how The Ark, the Research Station Shadow was created on was abandoned, and how long Shadow was in stasis on Prison Island in Sonic Adventure 2 before being awoken by Eggman. The reason the announcers specifically say 1974 is because that is 50 years before 2024, and that's why they say he wasn't Red. As to why the hell they're talking about Shadow going Bowling or in any sort of sports? No fucking clue, it's really stupid no matter how you look at it. This show didn't have the proper wrap up to Knuckles' story as is, no way they'd do a cool tie in scene for the 3rd movie.
26:40 _"You should definitely cut that part out"_
-doesn't
...........
He even emphasized that he didnt want people on the internet to listen to it lmao
He done fucked up
Update, looks like it's cut now. I guess only those who watched the video early could see it.
@@JetMC254 what even was it
What did they talk about? They cut it to when Alex starts his rant 🤣
I fucking LOVED this. I personally think Wade & Knuckles is a better dynamic and more relatable than Tom & Sonic. I think this is on par with the second movie and a fantastic prequel to Sonic 3
I'm totally with Alex, I didn't make it past the Doritos scene. I just fucking "NOPE'D" right out.... Bummer, I liked the first movie. Was surprised when this dropped, and then disappointed. LOL
"Should have been called Wade & Knuckles."
Did AJ just accidentally step into an "& Knuckles" joke 😂
She is playing the same character as in the Righteous Gemstones show
My 3 year old loves the first 2 sonic movies and was super excited for this series. Halfway into episode 2 he got up and started playing in the other room 😂 I asked if he wanted me to pause so he could watch later and he goes “no I don’t like it” so even a 3 year old can tell this was dogshit
The lady that plays the Sister should really be blacklisted from Hollywood for this
hahahaha I love this comment
So fun fact. Sonic fans have been divided since 2005. They have not agreed on a single issue regarding Sonic between that year and now. And if you think this miniseries is an exception, it is currently at a higher rating than both the first and second Sonic movies. Sonic fans are divided on this too.
The only times that 97% of the fans have been united since 2001 was with Sonic Generations and Mania
@@biodock2003 They weren't united with Generations and Mania at all. Mania definitely not. There were mixed opinions about that game right out the gate and people are still divided on it to this very day. And this happened with Generations too because purists didn't like the remixes of City Escape. And it'll happen again with Sonic X Shadow Generations because now there's talk that the Shadow segments are using the same engine as Forces.
I wouldn't say "divided". There were disagreements, but atleast they all still enjoyed the franchise for what it was. I don't think i've ever seen them actualy divided, its more like critical of the series. The main moment they started to get divided was when Colors debuted, and after the bad games released after Generations.
@@NicheXCC It was way before Colors. They were divided back when Sonic 06 came out.
reminds me of 2023 video game awards where its 1% about quickly wrapping up all them unimportant video game stuff and 99% about promoting artists+sponsors+ads nobody care.
The distance monologue joke came from Shazam! Dr Shivala or whatever was talking to Billy from a distance and Billy hadnt learned super hearing at the time.
This is exactly what scared people into thinking on what to expect when they hear Sonic arriving to theatres
of course they were proven wrong but now, well, this happened
Hope to god Sonic 3 rectify's this mistake
26:40 Joe did fact, not cut that part out
It is now but what did they talk about? Lol
What did they said ?
35:18 Alex predicted my comment as I was typing it lol.
I don’t have Paramount+ and I never planned to watch thid, but it’s fun to watch you guys rage.
10:55 i swear angry joe doing that with the wig on killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😂 " WaSsuP MaN"
I'm going to guess it has to do with the budget and the high profile actor voicing the character instead of a traditional voice actor?
Don’t know and yes Keanu Reeves is Shadow
I personally thought it was enjoyable but I still agree with all the people that have problems with the show because it does have quite a few issues and questionable decisions. I think a funny detail is that the 4th episode has the least amount of knuckles screen time yet it seems to be the most focused on knuckles in terms of people talking/singing about him
I loved it. It was a 6 eps, an easy breeze to get through. The humor was my right up my alley and I liked it better than both Sonic films
35:14 Thats a BINGO!
Is that the way you say it? Thats a bingo?
Joe, I'm so dissapointed in you. You don't remember "Gafilka fish" from Rush Hour?
2:55 The plot sounds like a sitcom from the 80’s or 90’s. Just good ridiculous goofy fun. The original Night Court… now that’s a funny sitcom! That manages to incorporate officers lawyers judges and a courthouse…and all the funnier for it.
I loved Night Court!
I will give them this.. I was not expecting an Alan Wake 2 music video parody in my Knuckles tv show. I was equally surprised, confused and disappointed but at least they managed to surprise me.
Fallout is on amazon too, so like...just put this on as background noise once your done with fallout
I'd put both shows as background noise honestly. I'm tired of these subpar streaming series already.
@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9rfallout subpar? 😂 Yer right buddy
@@xUseTheForks I'd call the fallout show mediocre. Its very mid in a lot of its execution and writing. Plus the action scenes are really bad.
@@xUseTheForks Yeah it kind of was lol. Sorry but not sorry I have a different opinion than you
@@xUseTheForks It sucked. Absolute disregard for the lore and continuity of the games, the humor was pure cringe, and the writing was shit. It seems it's only getting praise because the Halo TV show was bad, but being better than that trainwreck is extremely easy. Basically ya'll people are way too easy to please.
Give it like half a year and the 5 hours yotuube videos saying that it actually sucks will pop up.
Episode 4 is just straight-up disrespectful to the Sonic franchise 😣
lol 😂, it was truly some whacky shit
I'll say right now, I think Episode 4 is going to end up being what is known as the 'unreliable narrator', where we're told some things about the past and they turn out to only be a partial truth, or completely false because it's just Wade dreaming it up.
It's like they ran out of the budget during that episode
Why did they put Mall Cop Paul Blart in the Knuckles series?
This was sad to watch as a sonic fan. Breaks my heart they just can’t get it right. Hard to watch 😔
The 4th episode is like a crazy drug trip. I kinda like it tbh
What the hell is this Knuckles show people are talking about, its Clearly The Wade Show.
This was terrible and i hope they don't have a him gun agent running joke in shadow. Im scared for shadow now cus i was hoping more planet mobius and the chaotix. And we got wade. I love the knuckles solo run comics and was hoping for that paramount just made this terrible.
I loved the jewish dinner episode. It makes for a great contrast and relatability scene showing how Knuckles is so culturally different just how being a Jew is very culturally different so it becomes relatable
I dont know why everyone is so surprised by the fact that Wade is the main focus. You could tell by the trailer that the human characters would be a big part of the show.
I'm surprised because the show is called 'Knuckles', not 'Wade and Knuckles'.
A big part, not seemingly the main sort, where knuckles becomes a side character in his own show
In Sonic 3 they NEED to ditch the HUMANS! just Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow and Jim Carrey!
it's funny you say this because SA2 is one of the few sonic games to have humans in it. if anything it'll have the most amount of humans to date.
Well come to think of it they did include humans in sonic X LOL Even though that was anime style
@@thebulldogshowgaming and sonic adventure 1 and 2. arguably the most famous 3d sonic games, if not the most famous period.
Ok ok there's one human they can't get rid of for the series and that's the GUN commander.....because he actually has a history with shadow.
He was on the Ark 50 years ago when shadow was created and was a close friend to Maria. So having that and having the ideal that shadow is what caused the Ark to be destroyed 50 years ago paints a very faint but understandable dynamic between Shadow and the gun commander.
What makes little sense to me (as someone who kind of enjoyed this show) is the Flames of Disaster, Knuckles' new power...IS the demon Iblis, the same guy in
the rock opera bit, IIRC. He's punching the demon with himself in another form! Edit: I don't know why they didn't just go with Chaos, the actual reason the echidnas were wiped out, again IIRC.
I'll help break this down:
1. For me (A sonic fan all my life since 93): I don't like it.
2. As an adult hardcore sonic fan: you won't like it.
3. As a child hardcore sonic fan: you might like it.
4. As a family show: you'll probably like it.
More like a tourist child, a hardcore child fan may NOT like it or not even know any better.
FBI Agent is a line from Point Break Paramount blatantly ripped that off
I don't have Paramount Plus and I wasn't gonna watch this anyway but I'm glad you guys are suffering through it
It seems like she's just playing Judy Gemstone again
I'm really Afraid that Wanda will take place for "Topaz" from "Sonic X"
I don’t think the creators of this show now much about sonic lol so you don’t gotta worry about Wanda being topaz 🤣
I feel like Sonic X is what the people who make the movies were most inspired by
@@pacmancdi I'm glad more people are noticing this. It kind of makes one wonder if there's a long term reason these movies have so many similarities and references to Sonic X in them. Oh no. Does that mean Wade is the Sonic Cinematic Universe version of Chris Thorndyke? Let's see...
Human character befriends anthropomorphic character, CHECK.
Human character has personal family issues with his parents, CHECK.
Human character is not liked by Sonic fans, CHECK.
He IS Chris Thorndyke, folks... He is f---ing Chris Thorndyke...
@@SBaby I think people forget how popular Sonic X was. It was in constant reruns for about a decade after it ended.
@@pacmancdi Let's be real. The main reason it's still popular is because of a certain green haired plant girl in the third season. And if Paramount somehow gets the rights to that saga and she ever shows up in a mid credits scene, we're going to see a theater full of people going absolutely crazy.
(Paramount+ ruining another beloved IP)
"That stench, I smelled it before"
27:35 Like OJ said Rush Hour Nitpicking here, Rush Hour 2 by Chris Tucker
56:35 Shazam
Well glad someone suffered this lol. The first episode seriously seems like the subscription trap to put on youtube, because it was working in some ways at least.
55:10 I love how synchronized OJ and Alex were.
After Finishing watching the Knuckles Series and honestly it would have been better as a Movie but I Enjoyed it for the Most Part, sure Wade was the Main Focus but I knew that it would have been expensive to make a CGI Character the Main Focus in a Series but I have Fun, I will admit that in the Future of this Cinematic Universe there how to limit the Human Cast and focus on the Real Stars but because this is a Start I give it a Pass for Now and who knows maybe putting humor is to balance out the Sonic 3 Movie to be Serious, I have to say that this show isn’t the worst thing to ever happen to the Sonic Franchise, that would be Forces, and I will admit that one thing I will admit with Everyone is Wanda(although that Finger Scene made me Laugh so Hard like in Episode 2 Knuckles imagining to do a MK2 Jax Fatality) and there’s no way she’s FBI and we better not see a Sonic Spinoff with Her, I enjoy the Series that it’s a 7 out of 10, the only way this Knuckles Project would have worked was if it was a Movie or a Animated Series with Angel Island, Rouge, and the Chaotix but I had Fun and I loved the References from past Game like Tails Bed being Purple like the Tornado 2, the Beginning being a Homage to the Games, Shadow being hinted at a Event of 1974, The Buyer maybe being connected to either Ivo or Gerald, the Rogue Agents interesting Motivations to Neutralize the Morbians as Humanity Fears what they don’t understand, Knuckles getting his Hat and Love for Music, and that Musical being Fun to watch with 2 amazing references to 06 with Iblis and the Flames of Disaster, 7 out of 10.
My son watched it, he liked it. I checked out after the 1st. The guy annoyed me too much. Just like new Transformers movie focused too much on the human(s).
I had Paramount when Halo dropped season 1 but I canceled that shit after that and I’m not ever looking back 🤣
Is the audio crackling in the clips used to skirt around a paramount dmca?
Yes
I don't have paramount plus and I wasn't going to watch it anyway but i'm glad you guys are suffering through it for us
My 7 year old loves Sonic. Could watch the movies over and over. He totally checked out during Knuckles.
I was beyond disappointed and was also saying it should be called Wade Whipple cause Knuckles was BARELY in the whole thing.
They f'ed up a nice character, what a waste
This show was even worse for Sonic fans. Knuckles' spirit guide, Pachacamac, is a genocidal monster who single-handedly caused the extinction of the echidna race (and had his daughter trampled to death for questioning him). And THIS is what they made of that. Also, he was pivotal to the arguably the most popular Sonic story ever so they just THREW that whole thing away for this... non-joke. It's hilarious Paramount thinks they can launch a Cinematic Universe with this. And very sad.
They can with the movies, but NOT with this 😅
@@justalpha9138Its because they are trying to atract the general audience. Which means that lore faithfulness gets the back end.
@@NicheXCC Yes, but in my opinion it was put way too much into the back seat
@@justalpha9138 If they don't need the fans, they'll never improve.
@@NicheXCC What I'm getting at is that in my opinion this was a horribly written show that paid attention to a side character we don't care at ALL about
The main problem with these live action movies and shows, it cost an inane amount of money to make a show/film purely focused on 100% CGI characters and that's why in the last two movies there were human dedicated scenes like in Sonic 2 to save costs and pan out run time. I'm worried about Sonic 3 cause if we have Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and then Shadow. That's already 4 CGI characters maybe more so I'm expecting a longer human dedicated scene again to pan out runtime and give false expectations that the movie is gonna be epic while it may not deliver.
I completely forgot sonic 2 had that shitty ass wedding side plot wtf 😭 I remember why I didn’t really like part 2 now
I get the feeling this is going to be one of those things like the Obi-Wan show where it would've been better as a TV special instead of a miniseries
Hey Joe, will you be taking a look at sea of thieves again now that it's launched on PS5?
I'm one of the gameplay devs, I know you don't like going back to live service games which you didn't initially enjoy but I'd love to see your thoughts on how the game has evolved. ☠️
I knew from the first commercial I saw for Knuckles that it was going to suck. They brought back the useless "deputy" Wade from the first movie for no reason.
they put a teacup in a bowling ball and thats all i remember from the KNUCKLES tv show
Should've been a boxing tournament. Knuckles' gloves are just boxing gloves with spikes on them anyway.
I have only seen the 1st episode is it really that bad with Wade?
Watch until episode 3 after that it’s a waste of time.
26:50 bro, you didnt cut it out 😂
What did they talk about? They’ve removed it now.
@@DaDude2011 apparently Joe had his information sold or something and now he's getting a bunch of telemarketing calls.
@@natediaz1863 I got given a new house phone number ages ago and still get telemarking calls from whoever used to have that number. I even once got called by the dudes cousin or something saying his Aunt had died and I had that number for 5 years by that point. Whoever had the number before me must have been an epic loser.
I loved that little Cary Elwes story. And I'm jelous too. Imagine Dread Pirate Roberts hugging you out of nowhere like you're best friends.
I checked out when you compared it with Son of the Mask.... that's enough for me. Thanks for the heads-up
It's not fair to compare this to Shogun...however, it is funny seeing this right after Shogun.
I hated this show… the only good parts was with knuckles but every time knuckles wasn’t around, which was most of it 🙄, it was HORRIBLE!
26:02 right here there was a skip when Alex was saying why he didn’t like stuff in episode 2! Did it skip because Alex went to hard? 🤣
They use the name in the title to get you to watch it. But the reality is they simply won't invest the money needed for good writing and paying a good voice actor.
They just need you to start watching or sit your kids in front of the tv
I found it okey, its a bit corny sure, but its watchable, I like the interactions between Knuckles and Wade, its kinda lighthearted still.