Time for some 'cold, hard truths' about Brexit: Piers Morgan
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- Sky News Australia host Piers Morgan says it’s time for some “cold, hard truths” about Brexit.
“The promises made pro-Brexit have also been broken,” he said.
Mr Morgan’s remarks come as - according to the International Monetary Fund - the United Kingdom will be the world’s only major economy to shrink this year.
“Why are we worse off? Well, Bloomberg said today that Brexit’s cost the UK economy 100 billion pounds a year,” Mr Morgan said.
As James O'Brien put it, the UK is the first country in history that imposed economic sanctions on itself.
Yes, James O'Brien has summed up this act of economic suicide very well.
Note how most of the promoters of Brexit who bellowed about sovereignty were either millionaires or sufficiently well heeled not to have to worry about the hell that Brexit was certain to produce.
Now the great unwashed are paying the price for ''getting our country back''.
It was also the first country to leave the German-Franco project sorry, the EU when the democratic majority of the UK voted for sovereignty, independence from a corrupt, anti democratic, unaccountable, declining, protectionist, mafioso organisation run by a bunch of childish, vindictive, self serving, gravy train riding, free loading parasites. Leaving was about self governance, empowering the UK to make its own decisions. It does not set in stone what those decisions must be, it's back in the hands of the UK public and not in the hands of or shackled to Brussels.
As for James O'Brien, really?
Which very well might be a clever political phrase, but it does nothing to solve the problem.
@@pip393 Solve which problems exactly?
I don't pretend to have a solution to the problem. They may very well be none. But as brexiters love to remind anyone who would listen, they voted for it so they have exactly what they wanted.
Brexit was the last gasps of British exceptionalism.
nope
yes
callously put yet very true😂
"Exceptionist". What does that even mean? Is it a belief that your country is special, or, a belief that your country has superior entitlements, or, a positive appraisal of your country's abilities/situation, or something else?
Are Eurosceptics in other countries "exceptionalists", or is it unique to the UK?
It sounds to me, from the way it is used, like a buzzword, with no real meaning, used to label the UK as being somehow peculiarly arrogant.
Every country (or any identity group) has some sort of myth (grounded in a degree of truth) about its own special virtues, anybody might appraise their country's situation positively, and, as for special sense of entitlement, the UK's Brexit vote didn't ask for anything like that.
If any group of people are exceptionist, it's EU enthusiasts. Consider the case:
They believe there is something evil about opposition to their institutions
They believe that the Union is powerful and can/should dictate terms to neighbours, in ways which are not usually accepted between separate states, e.g.. The imposition of their law in other polities, special rights for their citizens, etc.,
They believe there's nothing problematic about this.
They believe their institutions have a moral entitlement to lecture nation states (within and without their Union),
They believe so strongly in their own project that they ride roughshod over inconvenient referenda and democratic institutions.
As part of this, they *need* Brexit to be seen to fail, not only pour encourager led autres, but because anything else threatens their internalized certainty that their institutions are *special* and *inevitable* in the progress of history.
@@CBfrmcardiff Right you have hit the nail on the head. It's just more unthinking populism.
You can always tell because the same sort of people latch onto it and they always use this hollow and pompous language.
It's high in contention and low in substance. Of course the EU are investing a lot of time, money and effort into making people believe that Brexit was a total failure, of course they are going to spend a lot of time trying to make it as difficult for us as possible.
It is an existential concern for them. Lets not forget that the anti EU sentiment before Brexit was mostly on the mainland and mostly the domain of the young and Brexit has seemed to do wonders to remediate that. They would be stupid not to exploit their short memories.
For once I completely agree with Piers Morgan, busted clocks being right twice a day and all that.....
Freedom did you not have your freedom before Brexit . That was the biggest mistake Britain ever made.
“The independent day”😂😂😂
The promises weren't broken, the promises were unrealistic and false from the beginning. Saying that the promises were broken, implies that these promises were feasible. But they weren't. They were lies, deceit and demagogy.
It was just a matter of simple and classic 'telling the people what they want to hear' because these people (feel that they) are in a shitty situation and instead of admitting left- and right-wing politics have hurt many people in some way over the years, it's easier to blame the EU.
So let's add some 'Everything used to be better' (that always works), some British Exceptionalism (I mean, Britain isn't called Great (by itself) for no reason, is it?), a lot of 'Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves' (since Britons never shall be slaves, especially not of the monstrous EU!), a lot of false and opportunistic pride in the NHS (weren't the right-wing politicians always saying costs had to be cut more and more?), and a miracle, however very toxic, potion is born. I feel bad for the Brits. On the one hand, there is the narrow-minded person in my head that says: good for you! This is what you wanted!. But no good can come from that attitude. I hope G-B will rejoin the EU sooner than later. And in the future: watch, read and listen to foreign media when they warn you.
Why not organise a competition. A worthy prize for anybody who can a find single benefit or proove that they have benefitted in any way from Brexit. (Brexiteers like Jacob Reece Moog, who exployted Brexit to their own good, by charging consulting fees using inside information about Brexit, on which EU companies to invest in, should be excluded.)
They promised to stop the boats and now they are paying for it
Message to the United kingdom.....O'k BREXIT Seemingly has not produced the desired effect relative to your economy. Do not languish in an environment of failure.....MOVE ON!!
They were not promises they were outright lies.
Traitor
Unfortunately the idiots believed the lies - says a lot about idiots
Like project fear
Yeah, those Brexit lies, whatever happened to Tony Blair, Blair's Liar-in-Chief Alistair Campbell, Blair's, poodle Adonis, Brown, John Major, Clegg, Cameron, Osborne, Brussel's mouthpiece the BBC, the list just keeps giving.
You bought them.
As a European i always ask myself: what did the UK really think would happen?
They thought they could get rid of all the brown people coming in to the country. But ssssst you're not supposed to say that out loud. England is still very racist in it's core. It was all about immigration.
@@Sam-qd8fyI think they thought Pakistan and Africa were in the EU
@@stiofain88 The UK is on its way becoming a third world country itself. We will soon be expecting worker's from England immigrating to the EU for work. Russia's economie will grow faster than England's.
@@Sam-qd8fy Unlikely, Russia is also circling the drain.
@@stiofain88 yes, and yet this week was announced that more growth is expected from Russia's economy than England's economy. A quick Google search will get you the answer. If I'm wrong, i stand corrected.
The promises were always fantasy so technically they never failed because they weren´t even realistic!
Education & healthcare empirically better from 1997 - 2010. Child poverty rapidly fell, year & after year. Things got shit because people like Piers Morgan blamed an global economic crash on the Labour Party then elected Cameron Conservatives who defunded public transport, education & healthcare while giving billions to big banks.
The promises were always fantasy?....the democratic majority got what they wanted, out of an anti democratic, unaccountable, toxic organisation, that's no fantasy.
@@AB-zl4nh So a US based economic collapse gets blamed by Morgan on the sitting local government. Where is the shame?
1:32 “We have an OVEN ready deal, let’s put it in the MICROWAVE” He literally didn’t have a clue from the start
Oh he did have a clue. He was just blatantly lying, like he always does, because he knew he would get away with it and that no-one would hold him to account. He just wanted to have his turn at being PM.
🤣🤣
i always burst in to laughter whenever i hear that sound bite ...
@@TheTwosliceToaster Actually, with that soundbite he wasn't lying. The metaphore of putting something that was meant to be oven heated in the microwave is perfect for this situation. What do you get when you do that? Exactly. As for the rest you're completely right of course.
Brexit was a wonderful example of how little politicians understand about the economy and business
Nothing to do with politicians, it's called a ballot box.
@@lloydnaylor6113 WTF???? Who did you think was going to ACTUALLY organise Brexit, the Toothfairy???? May was weak, Boris was a clown, Liz was a fool and Rishi is out of touch. May should have orgainsed a commitee with stakeholders and community groups, got a direction for Brexit then created a Government strategy to achieve a successful Brexit, instead, the UK now has a stalled economy, an out of control cost of living crisis with daily strikes & loss of importance in the global stage (thank God the Russians think the UK is powerful, with their NLAWS and the dozen Challenger 2).
@@lloydnaylor6113 it's all to do with politicians and you well know it
@@lloydnaylor6113
Nothing they lied to you about made you vote for the biggest economic act of self harm in history .
You just decided to do it on your own did you .
Smart move 😅
@@specialized500 Cant blame any other than the voters. If people want populists in the government, supply and demand.
Now I know the world is upside down. Piers Morgan straight talking and I've agreed with him.
Well, broken clock and all that.
Too bloody right, it’s a very uncomfortable feeling.
For all his faults he’s not stupid and only stupid people still support Brexit.
Haha fair point
@Chris Bloodknot Sometimes a fool knows the difference between rain and snow. It looks like you believed and voted for a lie which doesn't make you very smart.
Brexiters deserves everything they get for believing such 'serious and reliable' politicians like Johnson. Use your common sense next time. Greetings from Poland!!
So the British people who voted remain "deserve it"?
@@peejay6930 To an extent of course they do. Sounds bizarre and unjust I admit, but if the famous 49% anti-Brexiters were unable to persuade enough of the 51%ers, then their democratic responsibilities fell short. Yes, I would suggest that Remainers did deserve some of the blame for the way the vote went. they sat on their pretty backsides.
@@Mrrogerthurman I never said remainers, I said "the people who voted remain" remainers who never voted deserve everything that's coming, the remainers who voted did everything (the only thing) they could
Not going to get an argument from me!
Poland the country that likes to take but not give .How ma y immigrants have you taken Hypocrite 😅
Hola from Spain. Brexit people still looking for benefits
Only took him 3 year, but it's good to see he's finally catching up with us simple folk
Thank you. The simple people are really really stupid.
I voted for Brexit and am not simple at all.
@@robslade2571 evidence would beg to differ. I believe 'remoaners' and 'project fear' was the common response to the people who told y'all exactly how it would end. I guess project fear was project reality
@@robslade2571 😂😂😂
I visited the UK this year and was utterly shocked at the number of food banks. Good food is dreadfully expensive. Even campsites are very expensive. It cost me between 35 and 45 Pounds per night and here in France, Germany and Belgium I have not paid more than 25 EURO per night. That's 21.37 pounds...........
As an EU citizen myself, I can only thank Britain for its Brexit. The EU is stronger and more cohesive now than ever! Besides, no other country talks about this non-sense of leaving the biggest and most successful trade bloc in the world.
Yes as an EU citizen Im also happy they have left..we will be welcoming their financial services industry and car manufacturers in the years to come..also I dont think it was fair for the other EU nations to have the UK in the EU in such favourable position ( outside euroarea and schengen area)
You have no clue what you are talking about. I work in the building trade in East London and am much better off now all the cheap migrant workers have gone home. Why on earth would I regret Brexit?
Take no notice of Morgan, most Brits are glad to be free from the EU.
@@tendrosstoodross2976 Leaving the EU will in the long term prove of benefit, but the country cannot languish within a perpetual atmosphere of failure. There is much work to be done.
@@tendrosstoodross2976 I call BS. Most of the brits want to rejoin but EU won't let that happen - "Get out and stay out".
Britain STILL has to follow almost all EU regulations.. otherwise, they can't do business w/ the continent
But now they pay more, sell less, have fewer rights and freedoms - and zero input into MAKING the rules they still must follow! Great call, UK
But if we actually wanted to, we could make our own overarching laws, like, say, the USA, or India, ie actual democracies, as opposed to those countries living under the elitocracy of the EU's governing institutions.
That we don't want to and have shown no serious sign of doing so is due to the craven attitude of our institutions that resisted right from the start and have continued to resist ever after the thought of anything approaching homegrown democratic control: they believe we are not worthy of it.
@@villiamo3861 You should look up how the EU actually works. It's no less democratic than any single country you named. More so in fact than the US.
But of course you will choose to remain ignorant.
Three years after Brexit, the British are still waiting for the benefits.
Greetings from the Netherlands
The benefits of Brexit?
Well one of them is we are now an independent nation and no longer ruled by unelected foreigners, unlike your country.
Good luck...
we already have the gift of not being ruled by a GERMAN .. von der lederhosen still runs the EU , thru her masters in Berlin,. the colonies in the new Reich still bow down to whatever GERMANY wants. an empire from the Atlantic to the Urals was their dream. the expansion east caused the EU to fail, and now a war in the Ukraine as a corrupt insurrectionist regime wants to join too , destabilsing the regions and it is "the Ukraine", a region not a real nation until Stalin created it so he'd have an ally in the newly formed UN .
Sadly, those of us who voted Remain, and who told the fucking Leave idiots what would happen if we did leave the EU, were branded traitors and labelled as unpatriotic. Being proven right, and watching Brexit be the absolute shit show that we predicted it would be, is about as hollow a victory as it gets,
My question for you if we asked to rejoin the eu would you take us
@@leosommerville8757greetings from germany, yes we would. but under the same conditions as any other new state😅😂
"They need us more than we need them!" Oh,yeah,certainly looks like it😢
No benefits at all for leaving the EU just made a lot of us poorer
Thankfully, the disbenefits have fallen largely in the Leave areas. They cannot expect generosity from subsidies provided by those they sought to destroy.
The EU is an institution that imposes rules and regulations on small and medium sized businesses. It only favours big business and big banks. Everyone who really knows about it knows this. We were right to leave.
@@cun7us hasn’t done my business any favours whatsoever I’m paying double the price for certain materials now
@@tommyhassan3545 because the EU imposes tariffs on goods being imported. You should see how much poor African farmers have to pay just to export their foods.
@@cun7us Eh? 43 out of 55 African countries pay no tariffs at all, another 8 are on reduced tarrifs and only 3 African countries do not have reduced or tariff free trade with the EU. Could you be clearer please about what you mean?
The deeper crisis, brought to the surface by leaving the EU, is the poor quality of Westminster politicians. There is a massive deficit in values, ethics and wise leadership.
Yet people keep voting for the MP that wildly supported Brexit lies. We call that "shooting yourself in the foot, reload and shoot the other foot".
@Chris Bloodknot We have much to learn from our near neighbours, most of whom are outperforming us in some respect: quality of life and healthcare in France, manufacturing in Germany, leadership in Ukraine, wise leadership in Finland, most of them in economic performance.
@Chris Bloodknot
Everywhere.
Nothing new here. It has always been thus.
@@petermartin5030 Germany are 0.01% from a formal declaration of a recession and the French don’t fancy working for a living. Yes, brilliant child.
it only took him 7 years to figure that out
Nigel Farage's 'enormous opportunities' of Brexit actually means a GDP that has shrunk by a whopping £100 billion in the last three years. Our economy may well be shrinking further. Mr Farage's German wife and children all have EU passports. As the husband of an EU citizen Nigel Farage & his family will keep ALL the work, residence, travel and study rights of EU citizenship that most people in the UK have since lost. A truly visionary leader, eh?
Are you suggesting that Farage knew all this and wanted us to fail? That is not likely. I think he was naive, as I was, to believe that the government of the day would implement Brexit fully. But the parliamentary Conservative party did not want Brexit. Theresa May, a remainer PM, stalled it for 3 whole years. People forget that three years wasted, then the covid lockdown disasters. Globalist Sunak willl align us with the EU and leave it to the next Labour government to take us back in on disadvantageous terms.
Farage is especially despicable. Mr. Brexit booster was/is the worst form of slick, fast-talking demagogue.
A massive proportion of that was the pandemic.
@@gdfggggg yet other European countries, who also went through the same pandemic, are fairing better now than the UK.
Nigel Mirage will run away 😂
It happens when you let such a complicated matter as Brexit be decided by ordinary people who are not experts. A good shot at your own foot.
And the ordinary people loved the sound of "you'll be richer, thinner & younger with Brexit". (whiter too)
The brexit purposal was made by uk politicians the people voted for, if you want a soldier to become a priest and he say he can do this you should call him a lier mostly, if the chosen politic leaders of uk say they know wher they talk about you beleave them? A bit of a contradiction i think😮
I really like the part of this video with bojo breaking the foam wall and the Brexit bus hysteria….Brexit porn at his best 😂
Education & healthcare empirically better from 1997 - 2010. Child poverty rapidly fell, year & after year. Things got shit because people like Piers Morgan blamed an global economic crash on the Labour Party then elected Cameron Conservatives who defunded public transport, education & healthcare while giving billions to big banks.
@@AB-zl4nh it was labour who gave billions to the banks it was the Tories who increased NHS funding from £129 billion to £180 billion today.
@@lloydnaylor6113 Isn't there enough Tory lies spouted in the above video without you adding more?
@@declanokeeffe84 what lies? X
As a proud Dutchman and EU citizen it pains me to say: Told you so!
The English people sealed the faith of the entire UK. Sadly dreams of an Empire long gone stood against common sense. You reap what you sow!!
It was Russian money who funded Brexit. Alexandr Dugin bragged about it.
It's part of Russia's hybrid war against Europe.
As a eurospanish, I couldn't agree with you more.
I don't understand that there are people who vote to shoot themselves in the foot.
Piers the promises could never happen. If you had a clue you'd know that. Actually, I think you did but you did not care. You don't care.
On the upside the Tories can't blame the EU for their economic vandalism anymore
I can't help thinking it's karma after the way we behaved when we left. I don't see anyone else wanting to leave the EU.
The way Remain behaved! The games started once we voted.
Several childish attps by the EU, to stppit from happening, and their lies
I know many people that voted to remain, and were ardent supporterds of remaining, but once they see the way Remain and thr EU acted, in order to stop a Democratic vote, they said they'd vote leave if we were made to vot again, purely out of spite.
@@ftroop2000 and then we would become e the poor man of Europe again. Like I said karma.
To be fair I thought the EU behaved awfully and acted like bullies. We were just happy.
@@nathanstake how? By not letting you use all the facilities of the EU while not being a member!
Just as well really cos the eu junta doesn't really do referendums, so question would never be allowed to be asked . Remember slimy macron in Jan 2017 , asked by Andrew Marr if france had a similar referendum, would it also vote to leave... el presidente answered ...probably yes !...but but but , we wouldn't have allowed a referendum asking that question in the first place. Veeeeeryyyyyy cosy , very convenient..its the eruopean way
Let's hold these traitors accountable
The Brexit issue and those who argued for it (Johnson, Gove, Farage, Sunak, Rees-Mogg) and how they hood-winked a majority of the British population reminds me of the Kipling line about the truth being "twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools". Of course not being able to openly trade with your nearest neighbours is going to impact your economy. If this is to the tune of 4% a year, every year, it's not going to take long for your country to become much poorer than it was.
To be fair, Rees-Mogg said, ``It might be 50 years before we see any benefit of Brexit, IF Ever!´´
What a scumbag who might know that most in the UK are living from weelkto week or on charity meals.
I was always fanatically opposed to Brexit and lost friends and relatives over it, it was just impossible with an Imbecilic Government set on the UK becoming a slave Island of ZHC.
So the majority of the voters in the UK didn't agree with you so that makes them fools? Sounds pretty arrogant Jonathan.
@@joebond2149 The majority of voters now by far agree with him though.
Free movement from the European Union is the oil 🛢 for the gig economy
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools - project fear 😂
Anyone who believed a word Johnson or Farage said deserved all they got.
Yes, but 100% got Brexit, not just the 52% of Imbeciles that voted for it.
Yeah - but the rest of us didn't. Unfortunately, all the reactionary/conservative older voters turned out while the younger naturally pro-EU voters didn't bother. What a shame.....
"Let's take back control"🤣🥳🤣🥳🤣
The EU citizens thanks the British people for creating more jobs.
Nearly 5 million EU Citizens stayed in Britain AFTER Brexit . I met Poles / Romanian / Slovakian very often . They have no wish to go back to the great EU .! As for Germany : What a mess.! As most Germans would tell you .!!
@@2msvalkyrie529 Knowing the numbers without understanding them. Idiot, people who invested in their life in a country for years, have a family, a job, children can't flee in a night. Doesn't means they are happy or feel welcome. Your personal experience is not a valid statistic. Don't you read comments posted by Germans?
The first sensible thing I have heard come out of his gob
If you believe a single word leaving a career Politicians lips you deserve everything you get.
A lot of career politicians correctly warned exactly what would happen though.
@@candidbowyer4625 Britain got played like a fiddle by their conservative party. You cannot make the "both sides" argument here.
@@MarshallHendrix-nx2gg How was I doing that ?....but to be fair there were some conservatives on the Remain side. You mean the tory government.
@@candidbowyer4625 My mistake sir, i meant to reply to the comment to which you replied
A right wing politician, certainly.
Brexit was based on populism, not pragmatism.
It'll be a case study on how it is possible for a democracy to set an economic embargo on itself.
The AstraZeneca decision to locate its new £320m facility in Dublin rather than Manchester encapsulates everything that's wrong with Brexit. Watch Nissan in Sunderland carefully.
That’s because of corp tax not because of Brexit. Astra Zeneca aren’t going to France are they?
@@22448824 The biggest market is America. and the Irish (mostly) speak English. International trade, airlines, diplomacy all speak English.
@@22448824 It's because of both
@22448824 Ireland corporate tax rate is now at 15 percent thats the same as France atm
@@22448824no they are going to Ireland who are in the EU ! They already have a site in Macclesfield but chose not to reinvest ! Come on would you invest in a market with a total population of 70 million or one with hundreds of millions with no red tape between 27 countries !
Absolutely well said Pier, I do disagree some of your comments most at times but yoùr'e 100% spot on this
The UK loses 100 Billion a year being outside the EU, re-joining the EU and we could use that money to fund the NHS
Investing to grow the economy is rather beyond the mental capacity of Brexiteers. They thing tax cuts is the only way to do it.
How was this worked out? Absolute nonsense.
@@spidos1000 "Absolute nonsense."
Economists worked this out. And you are....?
BULLSXIT
@@joh22293 Twit, Economists were the ones crying against Brexit with Gove saying we are sick ox Experts! :(
Whatever else you might want to believe, you can't unscramble an egg.
It demonstrates why a democracy needs representative government -- not government by direct (mob-rule) voting. You don't hold referendums on treaties with other countries for a reason. This was changing the relationship with many other countries and more consequential than any single treaty. What they did was allow their politicians to avoid meaningful debate and tough votes. Is what they got really a surprise?
The one ridiculous thing he said was to claim that Brexit had nothing to do with racism. Of course racism and xenophobia played a part in support for Brexit.
Yeah you just had to go on Facebook at the time and it was crazy. It was literally the "I'm not racist but..." arguments all over😂
true been in uk at that time totaly agree even scots or welsh ppl ( they are part of uk isnt ? :) suddently were saying that probably from their own experience
It’s was nothing to do with isms or phobias it was to do with a 10million population increase over the past 20yrs 6million of which is from mass EU free movement immigration policy which has
A) flooded the labour market driving down wages
B). Caused a supply and demand issue in housing drive up house prices
C) caused a supply and demand issue in the nhs causing a terrible service
D) the same problem in dental care and in school placements.
We are a small island that cannot sustain such levels especially if we want to maintain green & brown belt land for wildlife, reforestation, leasure time and farming
We voted leave to exit the ECHR which is stopping us deporting those whom have broken the law by coming here ILLEGALLY. (Yet we are still tied to it.)
We voted to avoid our military been absorbed into the eu army under P.E.S.C.O (which Liz Truss betrayed us by signing us into it 4 months ago)
It was so we can make or reject all laws through uk democracy
It was to make our own trade agreements (which we are succeeding in)
It was to take back the millions of taxpayers money spent on eu memberships so it could be spent within the uk
To name the main reasons.
Brexit was the first stage Next stage. Next I want to see is a government that will…..
:Exit the W.E.F
:End the net zero 2030 agenda and expose it’s fallacy
:Remove Critical theory indoctrination from education system
:Reestablish dictionary definitions and teach factual history
:Abolishment of political correctness to reestablish freedom of speech
:End the cancel culture to reestablish freedom of thought
:End deplatforming culture to reestablish freedom of expression
:Abolishment of the social media workplace policy it overstretches into our private life
:drastic overhaul of the nhs
:drastic overhaul of the welfare system to get people into work
:become energy independent in both fossil and renewable energy
:end crony capitalism make it against the law for lobbyist and politician corruption
:create a new uk bill of rights
:establish uk constitutional democracy based around the Magna Carta to stop
government overreach and to protect property rights.
:rebuild our military defence
:start eroding national debt and make it law to not exceed yearly budgets unless at
war
:stop the push to abolish cash
It did, and in the weeks following the vote, there were ugly scenes in quite a few provincial towns of thugs confronting Poles and Romanians. UKIP was as racist as they come.
@@si-hv3nu bla bla bla
Sorry Piers, it was about racism for many.
It wasn't the will of the people of Scotland and N Ireland. Scotland and Ireland entered into a political union when they joined through an act of parliament to form the United Kingdom. When the majority of the people of Ireland wanted to leave the UK, Ireland was split leaving six counties in a one-party sectarian state with a gerrymandered pro-British majority. It never worked out
Funny how mainland UK was being flooded with Irishmen and had been since the 19th century. They brought their medieval religion with them unfortunately causing division. They wanted secession but the ability to live in England simultaneously.
@@leonardgibney2997 the division was caused by the English trying to impose their religion on the Catholics. They broke agreements, they reneged on promises, they cheated Irish landowners out of their estates through not filing title deeds properly, packing juries, and imprisoning witnesses. They allowed a million people to starve to death within the wealthiest Empire on earth. England wanted the ability to continue using cheap labour from Ireland.
Funny how people prefer to believe utter crap that suits their false narrative rather than do a simple online search for the actual facts.
As a former Catholic of Irish decent (father from Ulster) l take your point about the famine. Then the border question which Carson forced on England threatening an uprising if he didn't get his way but only prolonging the agony in the end. I'm not well informed about what went on in land management as you say. The problem was Ireland didn't reform and the religious divide fuelled most of the troubles. We can argue all day about religion of course but nobody can prove anything or even if god exists.
@@leonardgibney2997 well I don't want to argue with you. And I take your point about god. The conflict suited the likes of Rev Ian Paisley, a demagogue who started his own church and political party so he could be the leader. He rose to power and prominence through fear-mongering and fomenting division.
I've seen the riots in Merseyside and that's what inflammatory rhetoric from politicians does, as Paisley well knew.
I think the Irish government's mishandling of the housing crisis and the asylum seeker crisis is building up to a huge mess that will do enormous damage to the country.
Most people are sticking their heads in the sand about it and I think they're in for a bad wake-up call. But by then the damage will be done
@@sb8163 Raised an RC in Orange Lodgetown Glasgow l recall as a 13 year old marching with the school to a church service. Unfortunately the route took us past a Protestant school where the 12 year olds spat down on us as we passed under the raised play area. It wasn't the spitting that l recall so much as the looks of hate on their faces. If looks could kill I'd be dead a thousand times. But you'd think countries suffering intermittent wars due to ethnic divides would understand it's best to be homogeneous and everybody on the same page. But no, our politicians have a death wish and bring in even more ethnic divides. We should remember Paisley's great slogan, "NO SURRENDER" and appropriate it for today's situation.
I don't normally listen to this guy however he's 💯 %correct, brexit is a disaster, a basket case 😕😕😕
Leaving the biggest trade block in the world what can go wrong?
It is so very true that countries get the governments they deserve.
The vote was based on untruths . The Conservatives have a lot to answer for!
How can you be speaking so ignorantly about the "will of the people" if they were being lied to and manipulated into having this idea in the first place? The supposed saving of approximately 350 million pound a week (!) for the NHS should have been a huge red flag right from the get go
Once a coloniser..so afraid of being flooded by foreigners..full circle..
what really happened was that your politicians of both parties where very good at blaming the EU for everything that went wrong in your country. In other countries membership of the EU was used as a tool to improve the life of the population. You just have to look at how the situation in Eastern Europe and Ireland has improved in the last decennia . Apart from Ireland they still havent completely catched up but they are getting there. In your country being in the EU only benefited a small part of the population. For the rest of you nothing really changed.
The EU had nothing to do with that. The domestic policies of your successive governments created this situation. It is your still class based society and out of date political system that is to blame.
Ireland is not ‘getting there’. The people of Ireland are getting fed up with the level of immigration from Europe. The face of Ireland has changed over night. They’ve had enough proved by the demonstrations taking place.
Thanks Hans . Most of us have moved on since Brexit. You obviously believe too much in your
news papers etc. Stick to worrying about your own country ??
Well E.U is a select group and not all the arrogants should come in and out as they please :)
He said it wasn't about immigration but yet the first thing that was said in that clip was IMMIGRATION
Immigration was the main issue but no one dare to say it out loud in case being classified as racist, that's all. Western societies are breaking apart because of the politicsl correctness that we can't solve the real problems but creating more problems.
@Tom L you are a racist when you don't want people in your country because of their ethnicity. They screwed themselves because of that. Makes me happy.
Pro brexit promises were never credible 😂
What did those who voted for brexit actually vote for? Brexit was never defined and that was one of the major problems why it could never work. Everyone voting for it voting for "their brexit". Brexit was and is different things to different people. Always comes back to a quotes from David Davis in 2002: "...There is a proper role for referendums in constitutional change, but only if done properly. If it is not done properly, it can be a dangerous tool,...” and "...We should not ask people to vote on a blank sheet of paper, and tell them to trust us to fill in the details afterwards...". The brexit referendum was a dangerous tool, not something suitable for democratic change. Everyone both those who were against brexit and those voting for need to actually learn the lesson that referendums have to be done properly.
we voted for freedom you thick twat.
And what precise things were those voting to remain in the EU voting for? Eh?
For an ever changing succession of laws of which they could have no possible detailed idea, and certainly over which they would never be able to exercise any local control?
That is to say, no local democratic control at all, whatsoever, in any way, ever.
Don't lecture us about democracy, as you fawn for your bureaucratic ruling idols.
Just to clarify, I seriously miss the point of this process being, in any way, democratic. At least two member countries of the union voted to remain. This vote wasn't, in any way, representative enough, and proof of this is how independent parties have been strengthened to the point of breaking the UK apart.
Yes,this referendum should have had a 60% majority threshold for it to pass imo. Or at least 55 %.Its way to important to be decided the way it was.
@@stefandinu6389 Totally! It was almost 50-50 but.... "Majority s will" ???? That statement lacks basic logic.It sounds exactly like saying, "Ok, majority's will must be implemented against my will, even though it is not good. it MUST be respected." Not to mention that refferendum was not legaly binding, so that is a real lack of democracy. I am sorry it happened.
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It should have been a majority of votes and a majority of States.
@@stefandinu6389 why? A majority is a majority even by one vote, had it been the other way round you'd of course accepted it.
It wasn't a country by country vote it was a vote where every vote counted , nor was it advisory.
Imagine beliving in bojo and farage words lmao.
Why do people who voted leave still listen to the people who they know lied to them.
We have a saying here: The rats are abandoning the sinking ship. Funny that this comes to mind.
There is no good brexit one benefit from brexit is the Eu got rid of Briton
Its all a case of - Boris in Wonderland.
If memory serves me right, it was Piers Morgan who came on the teli a month after brexit and like a toddler asked "where all those doomsday callers at?" How Brexit was not the doom and gloom situation and everything "was normal".
What are you saying now?
This is why TV commentators shouldn't opine. Leave that to Fox news and their Labrador level memory audience!
Im stunned Sky down under showed this.
You mean the ultra far right Sky Australia
@@stephenburke5967 exactly
If you think Sky Australia is ultra far right then you don't understand the far right.
Piers. There are no benefits . The end.
God Almighty! Piers Morgan talks for over two minutes and manages to talk 100% sense!
Yeah let’s just ignore unprecedented energy prices due to UK’s reliance on natural gas and inflation levels not seen in 40 years 👍
Speaking of economy how is Britain’s energy independence going?
The same place the output of North Sea oil fields is going--down. In 20 years they will be dry.
How's it going?
Britain is far less dependent on Russia for its gas than many EU countries are.
You just have to hope Putin doesn't turn your supplies off.
Good luck...
Significantly better than it is for Germany, that's for sure XD
@@adambattersby8934 EU pretty much stopped Russian energy imports; outside outliers like Hungary. Also, let's see how independent England will be, once Scotland declares its independence ;)
Frankie - last time I looked UK exports to the EU had increased as a consequence of EU dependence on UK energy ?
Ironic how after your country left the EU to "not be ruled by the European bureaucrats", it is now ruled by someone who is not even European, let alone English/Scottish/Welsh/Manx/Irish/Cornish, but an Hindustani.
The crooks who promised impossible benefits from brexit have now been exposed.
It’s proving to be catastrophic for trade, commerce and employment. Huge recruitment crises in healthcare, social care, hospitality, agriculture etc. Food is rotting in the fields, farmers won’t sow crops because there is no guarantee it will be picked nor paid for by the supermarkets.
The economy is forecast negative growth - the only one in the G7.
Disaster
Germany is also forecast negative growth but forecasts are just like the weather - always changing.
"The will of the people". Oftentimes, people refer to that to excuse this mess. Now, the reality is that the second most googled question in the UK the day after the Brexit referendum was "What is the EU". Nothing else to say.
Every breaks-it promise should be played on repeat every day through the houses of parliament speaker system.
Why ?? Just move on. Read the messages from your European
" friends " here . They don't want you back ! Nice people...
Farage was paid 'handsomely' to orchestrate Brexit. It made a lot of people extremely rich.
It was a huge success for 'the very particular aims' that it was set out to achieve.
That Farage accepted such large sums secured into a Swiss bank account,
is a blessing and an annoyance for him.
It means that he can't be under any serious fiscal scrutiny.
This predicament means that he can't aspire for any political office.
So it's his 'job' now, to tell the 'Brexit faithful' the myriad of silly reasons,
why Brexit was not a success for the ordinary bloke or 'blokesses' in the street.
To continually divert their disappointment ( and attention ) onto other people or organisations.
He will be doing this till he dies, or the particular electorate that instinctively votes...
for 'an idiotic, 'one foot in the past' pipe dream' like Brexit... also die.
No one can save you.
We had over 100 billion wiped from GDP, even the current chancellor said that Brexit would make the NHS unsustainable due to Britain's diminishing economic capacity. So we now have "leveling up" replaced with austerity. And the small boat crossings have got out of hand due to Johnson burning our bridges with the EU and not having a returns policy. Also the majority which voted voted to "Leave the European Union" they did not vote to leave the single market, 2019 saw Johnson get a minority of the vote yet get an 80 seat majority to opt for a hard Brexit which is disproportionately hitting the poorest in society. So this can't be passed off and blamed entirely on the people, this is that little Kremlin backed Coward Johnson's doing!
The last year before Brexit France
agreed to take back 260 illegal immigrants . Is that the great
" system " we lost . ? Another Remainer myth busted !! As for the
£ 100 billion I assume uninstalling about Monopoly money ??
I.e We've made our bed, now lie in it.
First time in a long time I can say Piers is spot on. Only other thing is that he is an Arsenal fan.
It wasn't about bigotry, racism or hate, FOR THE MOST PART.... rofl
British Volt couldn’t get investment even with £100m government funding, the numbers don’t work without easy access to the 450 million people on the continent. If we had been out of the EU the Japanese car industry would never have invested here.
Bloomberg have estimated it’s costing the U.K. £100B year, that’s real peoples jobs.
Honda left and Nissan is still in the UK because the Tory government gave them a whole lot of cash to bribe them to stay.
It moved to America.
Freedom and Independent,Sound good,
We in lreland will have that,ALL OF IRELAND
It will Happen!
I am Spanish and love British goods, always did. Can't buy so many wonderfully crafted pieces anymore... How can that be good?
You should visit our towns and cities to see the joy of sovereignty upon our happy, smiling faces.
@@thedrumdoctor You are obviously being sarcastic!
@@joseserranosuner you understand English humour!
Britain the only country in the G7 that has not recovered to pre- pandemic levels, with 4% of economic growth lost and 7% higher prices thanks to Brexit - the self harm that just keeps right on a hurting.
The UK has returned to pre pandemic levels.
You do realise we left in 2016,it’s 2023,currently there’s a worldwide downturn,brexit has very little too do with it.
I reckon to the people of Britain, Brexit was about stopping rampant immigration and the rampant take-over of British Rule of Law. However neither changed.
Neither changed because they were both furphies.
Immigration was necessary and still is. There was no attempt to stop what was/is needed. The UK had complete control over non-EU migrants. It also had lots of controls over EU migrants. The reality is clear. The national situation needs younger people.
Let's get one thing right. All laws in the UK are UK law. They were brought in willing and accepted willing.
@@stephenconway2468 Britain has plenty of its own people. Has for thousands of years and would still be fine without outsiders. Constant growth and gdp for corporations isn't needed all the time. You are gullible to think real intelligent people buy that over-used filthy lie. As if after millennia a Nation of people will just cease to exist lmao. Dont make me laugh right in your face.
@@blondejon5538 Re-read my comments. I made no opinion as to what is right or wrong. I made no statement about the end of anything (no idea where you got that). I merely stated changing a strategy just like that is not clever.
Now I won't laugh at you just yet, but it seems you read what you expected and not the words written.
Brexit is a disaster. It has cost the UK in just about all terms you might consider. Migration from non_EU sources is higher than ever. Economics aside, we have also lost face/influence abroad. Other nations don't trust us. Since 2016 the UK has slipped further down the corruption index as well as economically.
Income inequality in the UK is the second-highest across the G7. That is just getting worse isn't it? The EU was dumped by some who believed that it was a cause. Yet many of the top nations for equality are in the EU/EFTA/EEA.
Regarding being fine for thousands of years without outsiders....when? The UK has always been full of outsiders. Read a history book a second.
Thanks for explaining this clearly... since many seem to be with their head in the sand still.
Reminds of Napoleon's continental blockade, only with Britain that shuts herself out
if people believed that breaking with the major market was beneficial to them, they deserve their fate, I feel sorry for the remainers and hope they will succeed soon
People that live in the past are not much use when it comes to the issues of the future. We need forward thinkers, not people that keep on harking back to yesteryear.
A significant part of the vote for brexit was driven by a desire to stop immigration. 'There's no denying that. And the 'project fear was based on the possibility that the UK would leave without a deal (which could have happened). As for the brexit-promises: it's not as if the leave-voters were not warned that those promises were hollow at best and lies at worst.
ted heath "no loss of sovereignty" he said that as he was giving away UK sovereign waters, lies from the scammers from day 1. so go on, which lies do you allege the leave side stated? .
@@marksavage1108 Where did the 350 mil on the big red bus go to, the NHS? Did immigration become actually less? Has the UK actually economically done better outside of the EU i.e. better than the EU members? Has UK trade improved? Have the fishermen actually done better since brexit? Did the UK vaccine-campaign actually go better thanks to brexit? The answer to all of that is NO.
@@kimwit1307 £394 million per week allocated to the NHS in Theresa Ma\y``s 2018 budget. pleaee try and keep up eh, your ignorance is showing. . immigration became less as we no longer have to pay child support for immigrant kids who dont live here kids of immigrants from the eu, the amount crossing the channel is showing how being part of the ECHR is as damaging to the UK as the eu was and has fuck all to do with Brexit. where oh fuckling where is the remainers ``status quo?``.
And yet, Brexit did not stop immigration either (not that I ever thought stopping immigration was a good idea). It just changed the countries that we take immigrants from; damaged our economy severely; reduced ease and cost of travel; reduced the purchasing power of the £; etc.
What did they think would happen? They thought the price of food and imports would go down? What were they thinking? Not to mention Scotland will leave the UK (eventually).
@ Gab
More drivel ! There's LESS support for Independence in Scotland now than there was before .!!! Check facts before commenting ?? T**t !
@@garyb3689 you should. Everything I said about Brexit came true. Scotland is on the way out within 10 years. If you understood business you’d know.
Simple economy of the scale. You need to recreate any institute and audit agency that has split the cost now has to do it your self. Ie aeroplane inspections and standarts cost roughly 4 milion now 40,000,000 since need to replicate what the entire EU is doing
Just another reason for Scotland leaving the UK.
If you're going to vote for something, at least know what you're voting for
Don't worry Australia we will be worth less than Italy and Spain. You will be the big brother soon
nope
Whichever side you voted for the big red bus was the biggest white elephant in the history of this country.
Global Britain, what a joke that is.
...and where are all the brexiteers who were quick to rejoice at the vote to leave...it's all gone very quiet now....
Brexit is the reverse of Keynesian Economic Theory; Brexit encourages people to spend less, business owners to shut up shop and retire, Zero or Negative investment, Business to leave the UK and diversify assets to the EU; The benefit of any spending multiplier is now in reverse and the UK's non EU Economic activity has also been infected by the decline of overall Economic activity. This detail of trade reduction and demise of Economic activity is already deeply established in the UK's Trade & Economic figures. BOJO the oligarch's EU 'Brexit agreement' is so bad it simply deters investment, inhibits growth and provides an additional wall higher than any tariff walls to exporters wishing to engage in business within the EU. The ERG and Tory Junta will continue to pass legislation ensuring these new Economic fundamentals for the UK stay in place. This is only the start of the UK's journey into economic oblivion.
Keynes was wrong ?
@@coling3957 No Keynesian Theory depends on a multiplier effect to ripple through the Economy, in the UK the multiplier is in reverse economic activity is shutting down and the Government have no clue how to restart the Economy or even grow the economy. Even Farms are going bankrupt!
You sound like you have some actual knowledge of economics. However, expertise on this issue is not welcome. People are tired of experts and would prefer to rely on ignorance and xenophobia.
The EU is a protectionist economic Cartel . Nothing to do with Free Trade AND the opposite of anything Keynes stood for. That's why it's share of World economy is declining fast.
Try doing more research before commenting .you won't appear such an idiot then ??