Should You Exercise in Project Zomboid?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- In this brief video, I'll go over some tests I did relating to Project Zomboid's exercise system. Many players believe this system to be incredibly useless, and while I partially agree with this statement, I don't think it's entirely true. By the end of the video you'll have listened to my tips for exercise and when you should do it, which should help you in future runs.
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XP = experience points
XP points = experience points points
As amusing as the redundancy is, I believe this is one of those cases where it's still one word. XP is just short for 'eXPerience' rather than Experience Points.
@@coenisgreat Unfortunately not my dude... anywhere that defines the abbreviation XP, defines it as experience points. Generally, EXP is the abbreviation for just experience.
Anyway, this is just a bit of fun. These things do have a little room for interpretation.
R.I.P. in peace is my favourite one
eXPerience
It depends, some say it's eXPerience some Experience Points. Both are correct so stop whining like reddit user
I got my character up to 10/10 Strength and Fitness. I did the grind, got the dumbells and barbells. Maxed my protein intake, dosed up on painkillers and antidepressants. And exercised for ingame weeks, irl days.
I was feeling elated, I hit that milestone I can now carry maximum loot and run for days.
Then the first loot run out I got bit and died.
So No, exercising is NOT worth it when tou can het bit and die so quickly afterwards. Nevwr doing that grind again.
Average zomboid moment, it sucks man. The cycle must continue
It is just what the game does, you reach a goal, you get bitten, another day in the PZ office.
I decided to make one character "Immune" and after he wqs done bleeding from a bite, continues to bleed profusely and lose health fast, despite the bleeding stopping.
Soon as bandage comes off, hp drops. Dunno if it's a bug, or just an oversight.
Like, "Ah bites are lethal, regardless of bleeding!" or what.
Also I'm pretty sure having high fitness lets you exercise for longer. So that's even more reason to start with athletics and then level strength.
But realistically speaking you just start with the strength or fitness level you want because unless you're the kind of player who plays a character for months there is no way you're gonna be leveling either.
Yes this is correct. Fitness lets you do repetitions faster as well as reduces your fatigue but it isn't noticeable unless you start with fit or athletics like you mentioned
Also, at 9 fitness you get a boost to recovery thats massive, 9 fit is a much better level than trying to reach 10. it means you can work out more times a day as well
honestly worst part of low str is carry weight, combat isnt as terrible as might be implied bc of downed/crits. even on my characters i start and quit after a few days, i usually aim for 9fit/4str. kinda locks you into a few of the occupations, but most are memes anyway.
Can definitely go longer with Strength, made someone who was strong but obese and was surprised he was able to exercise far longer than my other characters.
Thought it'd be backwards.
BUT WAIT, Cardio lets you get more out of exercise? Not just go longer? Or am I missing something?
Gaining strength and fitness through exercise is worth it if you're playing for the long term. I've gained 3 levels of strength and 2 levels of fitness in about 6 months of in game play through just an hour of burpees each and every morning. It's very much like real life. Don't expect any gains by trying to grind it out with 10 hours of exercise a day within a week. It doesn't work like that.
Except it does (sort of). If your regularity is high enough you could just grind out an entire day with just exercise. It's certainly not how real life works but oh well. But you're right, if you're planning to play for a long time exercise can be worth it over some time but if you're a new player who most likely won't make it past 1-2 weeks, id still recommend saving exercise for later just because of the soreness and the value of time early game.
Straight forward and very understandable explanation, thanks sir!
@@clark563 No problem brother!
I been starting out fit and feeble for a few starts now, strength is easy to build up.
Yeah strength is much easier. I've been doing the same on a few characters and it seems to be fine. Free points
Gotta give yourself the I Am Legend workout. Pull ups, jogging, good meals, ect.
My character has been sustained on literally only cabbage for a month so I don't know about good meals lol
Just play with 2 or 4x xp and start with the traits that make you only start with 3 levels
@@beaub152 Interesting idea. I heard in build 42 they are letting us set multipliers for specific skills. Personally I think the skill system is balanced except for the passive skills. Cool how they are letting us change more stuff so we can play how we want
@@WithoutShield yes I can't wait for that. One thing that I am apprehensive about is them adding 6 (I think that was how many) new skills to the game, it really seemed like a bit of bloat to me but maybe it will be ok
@@beaub152 Yeah, I was thinking similarly. I don't understand how stuff like metal forging and pottery fits into a zombie survival game. Seems a little farfetched but judging that they're taking their time on it I trust that it will be good.
@@WithoutShield There's overlap between zombie survivalism and survivalism in general, a.k.a. prepping. A large part of prepping is self-reliance, which means finding replacement for needs in a post-industrial world. Growing your own food, canning it, generating your own electricity and wiring its power distribution, etc. Some people play Zomboid like a horror movie, just sneaking from house to house and living off the loot, while others like myself play the long game of being alone in the world. I've almost entirely depopulated Muldraugh and have a compound where I'm building up a resistance movement with a few NPC survivors (mod), so a good chunk of my play involves non-zombie-related tasks like brewing vinegar in barrels (mod) or installing solar panels (mod). The zombies are just an occasional nuisance who break my walls when a helicopter or plane flies over.
Metalworking is definitely a long-term survival skill. Have to agree pottery is going to have limited use unless you were lost in middle of the Canadian wilderness with zero resources.
4.0XP multiplier is the standard to balance the grind on the game.
0:47 me during covid
True 😭
that's why I use fitness & workout overhaul, makes working out actually worth it, it takes only about a month and a half to go from 0 fitness and strength to about 6-7 each
Yeah even though it's pretty unrealistic it just saves yourself valuable time to be doing other things
@@WithoutShield exactly, I play with 6 hour day length, so having to wait a WHOLE MONTH to level up just a little bit is, kinda impossible
On 1 hand it makes sense that strength and fitness have higher reqs than most since you gain exp from carrying around heavy loads and fighting zombies so you’re gaining exp from playing the game, buuuut exertion and fatigue means you’re insane if you’re gonna grind those stats without the ability two fight back and run away
They really should let you also gain fitness from jogging, and let you gain strength from dismantling wooden and stone items
I think the bigest Issue is that there are no objcts to use which help you gaining fittnes XP and also no food that boosts you fittnes gains
Yeah, they should add fitness and strength levelling books. That would make the system a little more forgiving.
Personally I like to start with 0 fitness and 0 strength as the xp required for levels 1-5 is less than the xp going from 5-6, super super quick to level
Interesting strategy. Seems very beneficial from the extra points you get from taking the traits
I always play as fit and stout so I don’t bother at all.
Yep, me too. In fact I have a Veteran build where I can take Fit and Strong. Getting traits to buff these skills is your best bet, really.
Stout and Obese.😗
Weight drops pretty quick, lost that trait in 10-11 game days (still needs to work on cardio though).
Didn't even buy the game yet, but I know exactly what I'm going to do once I start playing
@@gabrieldelima4091 It's a good game but it's one that you need to get a grip on before you start having fun. Maybe watch a guide on traits for your character but other than that discover the game by yourself if you can! Making your own playstyle is really how you enjoy yourself in my opinion :)
Make sure you choose the correct difficulty! Apparently lots of people choose the hardest one that is the top selection in a new game. Like Shield said, spend some time with learning basics on YT or in forums. You'll probably want to grab a few mods too, as the base game isn't fully fleshed out and has some "why tf is that not a thing" moments in it. Have fun and don't get discouraged too quickly! I'm not an expert, but I've gotten a bit better for less than 100 hours.
I feel like this is wrong, fitness is the last skill you will level to max because its passive gain from running and sprinting is too low, while for strenght you only need over 50% encumbrance, i play with 0 fitness and strenght characters and i end up double the levels of strenght of what little fitness i have WHILE doing squats which are only fitness xp, after an ingame week i end up with level 3 strenght and level 1.5 fitness, sometimes lower. On vanilla btw, no mods
@@threehundredblackout You might have misunderstood what I was saying, I was explaining that at base fitness (which is 5), the exercise you need to do to get to level six is drastically higher than if you tried to do the same thing for strength. That's why I recommend saving fitness training strictly for winter. I see what you're saying though
@@WithoutShield I think ive seen on a retanaru video that if you really want to reach fitness level 10 you gotta pick athletic first, because those levels get to like 10000 xp, i never reached fitness 10, my main goal was reaching level 5 strenght and fitness while having a weal and unathletic underweight character, which i usually achieved before 2 weeks if i grinded enough, until my cousin gets bored and makes me reset the server, i did this on multiplayer coop
It took me around 110 days to lvl up strenght 1 lvl naturally, I mean, not doing any excersises just playing, and it really helps to get these 2kg extra carry weight on you. Upong seeing that I thought well might give exercising (strenght primarily) a chance, since I had a dumbell on me, but tbh I think it's way too difficult, I don't know how it works when you hit max regularity at something but at no regularity you get muscle exertion 12hs in so it's impossible for you to get out your base for as long as you exercise, and you gotta deal with the emotional impact on your character and the fact that you're eating away your reserves, so no I don't think it's worth it as of now, maybe they'll change something about it in b42.
Yeah boredom is a problem because it makes your character sad (which reduces speed of all your actions) so normally I just stock up on newspapers and other things like that to prevent it. Also if you don't want to deal with exercise fatigue you should workout at around 6 AM so you feel it the following night. The fatigue will go away by morning
@@WithoutShield the 6 am tip is really helpful man, thanks, gonna try that
@@rafaelmicolini8827 No problem brother, happy to help
You should NOT exercise if you took "very strong" and "hight fitness" from the start. It takes hundreds of real life hours to get one more fitness or strength.
And after literally monthes of your real life your character can die in one second from some awkward animation or from bag with 2D surrounding
Yeah I'd rather just enjoy the game than grind mindlessly in most cases
really answer my question
Happy it helped!
Imagine not taking -10 fit, -10 strength and very underweight every time. Imagine not knowing how to exploit working out so you only have to do it once per character.
Are you talking about the method where you start an hour of exercise and then press sprint? I saw that a while back. Didn't really try it out though
It works and I will never go back to being weak or spending points to be fit.
Why not just go for burpee? They raise both at once right?
@@gamelifer234 Burpees do give XP for both strength and fitness, but less fitness XP per hour then squats/situps and less strength XP per hour than pushups or dumbbell presses/curls. Also, burpees make your entire body sore the next day so you deal less damage and can move slower. For these reasons, many people don't use burpees and instead specialize their workouts. Hope this helped!
Whats the mod you used that allowed you to see zombie hp?
It's called "Combat Text" in the steam workshop. I like it especially when your character is tired/exerted so you can tell if you are doing low damage and if you should retreat!
@@WithoutShield thx!
what mod is that
zomboid health bar
It's called 'Combat Text'
thanks