Same way you deal with panic moodles. You slowly get used to it over time. No joke, panic goes away faster the longer you survive (and by killing zeds too, I think). Desensitization and all that jazz. Mind you, veterans are immune to panic from anything besides nightmares to begin with in exchange for the highest price tag of all the occupations.
Yeah little mistake about deep wounds: They CAN actually heal without stitches, it just takes a long long time depending on how much you spam fresh bandages on it and traits.
The worst situation I’ve seen a new player do was dying to a neck wound. While pretty obvious after playing for a while, it’s good to mention that sometimes it’s better not to remove a dirty bandage especially from the neck. But that’s only when bleeding is dangerous or there is some danger around the player.
neck wounds are kind of ridiculous in this game though, get scratched on the neck and you die within a minute or something. like it's worse than a deep wound on the legs which is kind of silly...
@@zwenkwiel816 you'd be surprised how fragile the human neck can be. Though to be fair, I highly doubt every scratch on your neck in this game should act like you nicked an artery
when my character had a laceration on the neck i managed to bandage it on the last little bit of health, escaped a horde, waited for hp to go back to about 1/3 and then treat it by applying bandages sterilised in hot water and very slowly repeating the procedure of waiting till 1/3 health and changing the dirty bandage until it stopped causing so much health drain treating it was a bitch because my character had slow healer, it took like a week to fully heal. Neck injuries are very dangerous and need to be treated carefully
Yep, neck lacerations need to be dealt with IMMEDIATELY or you WILL bleed out. Rest, eat up, wait to heal up and then remove the bandage as your health falls rapidly once it's off.
Ive got bit in the neck when I started the game managed to survive it but took too long, the most i hate is a near heat stroke/too hot which leads you to sickness
Lol I have hundreds of hours in Zomboid and for some reason I was always under the impression that adhesive bandages were best... Not sure why as it certainly isn't true irl. Thanks for the vid!
It really should be stressed just how dangerous neck wounds are. Got burned randomly on my neck when I was getting rid of corpses, and in the time it took me to disinfect the wound I died.
This is kind of a bare-bones mechanic. I hope they expand it in the future and make it a bit more complex. That way leveling up the first aid skill would actually mean something.
I really hope depending on your first aid skill some things can't be treated, or have a chance to hurt you more. For example I feel like someone with zero first aid knowledge wouldn't know how to remove a bullet or glass from a wound without causing themselves more issues.
@@Mad-rg9sz Or maybe they wouldn't know exactly what a wound was. For example a person with 0 first aid could not identify a fracture from a broken bone.
Honestly a really simple way to make first aid more viable is to 1) extend it to cover sickness better and 2) make bites a 90-95% chance of zombie infection rather than 100%, but still with a 100% or near 100% chance of normal infection if it doesn't zombify. That way being bitten is actually a scary, stressful experience, and doctors have a chance to shine. Without a good doctor, it'll be hard to tell if your rapidly spiraling health means you're dead or only *probably* dead, and it's worth attempting to cling to life with a well-leveled character
I almost died by busting in the window of a step van and getting a huge cut. I had previously found a first aid kit but didn’t immediately understand how to open it, and then I didn’t understand why the bandages were getting so dirty in literal seconds. I asked Google and it told me to sew the wound shut, and that worked and saved my life
Game devs should add, that leveling first aid to a high level gives you the (small) chance to clean bite wounds and cut/burn out infected flesh before it spreads to the brain saving your character. Maybe with a permanent debuff to your HP.
Since the dev dont want a cure from bites, I'd suggest just ways to delay the zombification until they find the necessary tools for amputation. Regular players that try to amputate will bleed alot and bleed through bandages fast, eventually getting infected, until an actual expert at First Aid person could take care of it.
Personally I wish the odds for infection were like, 97%. Not to make the game easier, but because I want the role play aspect of, "You don't have to exile me guys! I'll be fine, i promise!"
Adhesive Bandages are really good for leveling first aid because of that. Get a a scratch and go through like 5 adhesives in a couple days compared to like, 1 sterilized bandage.
Reminder that eating lemongrass which you get by foraging will decrease your sickness from food poisoning! This is essential if you've chosen the otherwise excellent weak stomach debuff which is quite popular. I think it is possible to forage lemongrass without needing the herbalist magazine.
Why would you get poisoned tho? Weak stomach is only a problem if you eat rotten food, so just don't eat it, mushrooms and berries can be avoided if you have the herbalist trait or have the herbalist magazing, allowing you to identify the posinous foods that you forage, tainted water is actually safe to drink if you don't drink it from a container (you will only die if you are in a really shitty condition, like, "actively trying to die" type of condition), lemongrass is more of a convenience rather than a necessity, since poisonous stuff (as of now) is easily avoided
Heat a cooking pot filled with water and you will be able to sterilize rags and bandages. Just put the pot inside the oven, turn it on and then right click the cooking pot :)
I'm playing with Expanded Helicopter Events (great mod btw) and had a military chopper do a strafing run around me, ended up with three lodged bullets. These can't be removed by hand and I had no tweezers, so bandaging only slowed down the health drain a little. Pretty much a death sentence and now I always have a pair of tweezers on me.
interestingly enough, do not drop your sharp weapon on the floor randomly, because if you stepped on it barefooted, it will damage your feet. it happened to me once while I'm doing a naked jogging and accidentally stepped my spear that I dropped. Always wear your shoes, guys
I really want this to go more in-depth and be more realistic. I know it probably will never happen due to gameplay reasons but I would love to actually have diseases be a big part of PZ. Something that might be an idea is the usage of multiple bandages. The modern advice on applying bandages to wounds is that if the first one bleeds through, a second can be applied. If that one is also bled through, they are removed and a fresh one applied. then the cycle repeats.
First thing I do when spawning in, is turning my under shirt and socks into bandages. You always find them and you never know if the first or second zombie gets you
I used to have zombie infections set to instant death until very recently just because it's a 100% mortality clock with absolutely no countermeasure (yet? ever?) Like sure, I applaud the "realism" (as far as a zombie game can be realistic) of it, but I ended up just walking into a swarm or starting a new game once bitten anyway because I mean... what's the actual point when you're just waiting to die anyway? There's nothing to play for anymore. Even a single cure item, randomly placed on world generation would make me at least enjoy it to some extent, desperately rushing around hoping I might find it on a character I've grown attached to, but since there's no such thing, I elected to just make it kill me and save me the uncertainty and waiting. I say recently because I've now just turned off zombie infection outright. For many I imagine the elevated risk of dying to a single bite or scratch adds to their enjoyment, but for me it just takes away from the experience. I'm more than capable of getting myself killed in stupid ways on my own without a diceroll determining I'm just dead now.
During around 1:35, I have never seen my char falling like that. Was quite hilarious seeing that. xD In regards to drinking tainted water, as far as I can tell, you can actually drink from natural water sources like lakes and the river. I never, in over 700h, got sick from drinking directly from them. Yet, if you drink such water from outside a container or a barrel, its almost certain I got sick through it. It might be a bug, yet for now, Id make the claim its "safe" to drink from natural water sources.
I still can't get over the fact you die from drinking rain water, like wtf. Even if it's contaminated with multiple evaporated chemicals like acids, boiling it won't really make it safe
I said it back then and I say it again: The thing that zeds can kill you so easily is fine. Scratches are fine and bites are supposed to be letal. The problem is how rarely you are gonna use the first aid mechanic. two out of three injurie types from zeds are almost not even worth to treat and you are better of with a bottle of bleach. And beside zed injuries, it is surprisingly difficult to get treatable injuries that don't turn you into a zed if you are not completly brain afk and jump through the same broken window over and over again. The most logical thing in my opinion is to add more ways to hurt yourself. Maybe add injuries for carrying too much for too long, or give zeds a few more damage types that are not contagious like bruises. I would be even fine with a sprain ankle when run/walk with too much stuff. Just let me open the first aid menu more than once, max twice in one run.
Car crashes that break your windshield should bruise and scratch you, having your car window broken should scratch you, there should be a very small chance that you can get scratched at low levels of carpentry when dismantling things or making barricades. Cooking at low levels should also carry the small chance at a laceration when using a knife, and a scratch when doing most other things. Wearing shoes with holes in them should have a small chance of causing blisters on feet which would need to be bandaged to reduce pain, getting sick should be more common, and antibiotics should be able to directly combat things like respiratory illnesses, tainted water and whatnot so that you can actually forage up penicillin (and make it so that when you compost there's a chance of it spawning) and there should be bruises and contusions like in NEO scavenger. Imagine if having a high bite/scratch resist could allow zombies to still bruise you to hell. Because as it stands, I level my first aid by repeatedly sprinting into a wall just so that there's a very small chance that if I ever snap my leg, my splint will actually allow me to run while splinted. Because increasing the life of bandages is such a nonissue since if a wound is bleeding so fast that you need to constantly replace it, that just means you need to stop taking off the bandage altogether until the bleeding slows.
@Salt Meister I played in a MP PvE server. Nobody cared about the guy that got level 10 First aid because nobody broke their legs and survived long enough to be helped. Instead, the level 10 tailor was constantly busy. I've always told people this and I will say it a million times over. Level tailoring hardcore and you will turn even a tank top into 16% bite protection with leather strips by itself. Having 64% bite protection on your arms because of a level 7 tailor is vital. (Neck and hands are the least protected though since there was a nerf to helmets and to the hoodie's hood.)
Foraging in a deep forest also causes scratches, and in some cases Lacerations, too. It works best, when you're not wearing only shoes and socks. I often use that skill to help level my first aid. Digging furrows with your bare hands also helps level the first aid skill.
Having a doctor on a team would be a life saver at times when needed, like lets say you have a fighter/combat character thats get hurt sometimes, the doctor can help with treating people after a PVP fight.
My first exposure to deep wounds, I had my clothes in the dryer and didn't realise there was glass of the floor. That was how I died, well the injury lead to me being super slow and getting got
Fun fact, a burn on your neck functions the same as if it were a deep wound. I have no idea why they just do in the game. Get a burn on your neck and remove the bandage and your health plummets like you were bleeding out
Damn I'm holed up in the muldrough tavern with a bad neck wound. Was trying to get guns from the police station and it went VERY wrong....my base is on the other side of town so wish me luck. I do have a bunch of molotov coctails now at least
The broken glass idea to level first aid is okay, but you can often get the glass shards, which is less than ideal. A much better way to safety get injured is to dig furrows with your hands. Zero chance of infection, glass shards, and it is a minor wound.
Correct me if I am wrong but adhesive bandages have a apply speed much higher than all the other bandages, this means it is good to use when clutching near large amounts of zeds and you just need to stop bleeding. Especially if you get a neck wound, apply a sticker and GTFO
I always thought that the lack of "stop. drop & roll" to extinguish flame was kinda cheap, but maybe it's a coding limitation. I've only burned myself once in 1,400 hours; like your advice to avoid breaking windows with your hands, you almost have do something you know is dumb. My excuse is that I made a camp fire while walking to another town with a crew of Superb Survivors and they started walking into the fire. The next thing I know there's like six of them going up like logs. Pure bedlam as this is my first time with fire not in a wood stove and I got burned. I got stabbed by an NPC I was attempting to boot from the group in b40 and that was a treat. I don't put base point in 1a, but I'll advance it in game. It's nice to see someone with something to say about 1st aid besides "it's worthless". Thank You!
Are bites 100% confirmed infection for the latest build? My friend and I were playing and he got bit and didn't get the virus. I don't if it just glitched or what, but the server settings were normal.
Current build is 100% mortality rate, if god mode is turned on for someone they will lose the wound and zombie infection though. That's my only guess if the server settings are default.
Should be. Unless you altered infection mortality rates in sandbox mode to just give you a nasty-but-curable infection from bites instead of Knox Fever, if you get munched on, you're dead.
I’m late to the party, but if you’re in a pinch and don’t have a sheet, you can rip up clothing as well to make ripped sheets. Saved my life when I was running outside and had an extra t-shirt for one reason or the next.
I was thinking, there should be a negative trait called something like 'tunnel-vision' which narrows your fov when you start to get panicked. Don't know where to share this so if anyone knows how to get it to the devs, please tell!
One thing about Deep Wounds and having them on the foot is that they cause limping and greatly reduced movement rate, even when you use bandages. Only stitches will help you get your walking speed back and stop limping.
its a shame that in a year or so this guide will be completely outdated... as they have plants to overhaul both the medical system and traits/professions..(to make the more useless professions more viable and doctors actually useful)
@ThatGuyHarv In that 10 years they added 3D models instead of spritework (spritework being time consuming for every animation added.), reworked their netcode from the ground up, overhauled most of the game's code and tbh, development won't take nearly as long anymore because TIS actually finally started hiring more people to work with them. They've been making great progress ever since they hired more people tbh. It's what allowed them to add content to the game alongside pushing out multiplayer.
First aid is a skill you basically give to one player in MP if they want to roleplay a medic. It takes a long time for little reward so having one person heal 5 peoples wounds is likely the only way to level it without purposefully injuring yourself or others.
Bruh I just died to illness. I got scratched, bandaged with rag while still in the fight, once it got dirty I removed it, cleaned it with the wipes (while still in the fight), once clear shortly after, bandaged with an actual bandage then immediately went home, took medication then reapplied with a STERILIZED bandage then took sleeping pills and went to sleep. When I woke up I removed the bandaged which revealed a healed wound then took more medication. After this I started to get a fever so I took MORE medication and sat in my truck using the a/c making sure my temp was perfect. I died from the illness… what did I do wrong??
I know First Aid skill is kinda useless, but in multiplayer, I think it could very usefull, specially if PVP is enabled, perhaps even, it could save lives. For example: Your friend got shot onto the chest, and there is people chasing you, you bandage him up, both of you got no time to remove dirty bandages, so there's a big chance his wound would get infected, but with longer bandage life, it could help alot. And another case would be in the same spot, you need to heal him as fast as possible, since you don't know when they will strike back.
You can exploit to lv up by standing bare foot in a broken glass and removing it from your foot non stop. You can do this as long as you do not have "disinfect or die" mod active.
@@JoseMolina-ij3xx it does on a RNG as i know, but using the combat instance to move you can i think kinda cheat to avoid injuries, but most of the times you wont get lucky
Correction: Deep Wounds do in fact heal without stitches. If my previous experiences haven't failed me it takes roughly 2 weeks to heal without stitches.
Fatigue reduction is not just sleep but exertion, so vitamins help you recover quicker from it or reduce it enough so you can sprint again in a bad situation where you need to leg it
This game is brutal, dies three times first day, finally have a character that’s lived a day and made it out of town. Had to go back to town for gas and after three separate hoards chased me. I’m hurt, exhausted and holed up in a retail bathroom. Hopefully this helps. Because I still haven’t gotten to the gas station.
i got a scratch on my neck, full health and all, i ripped like 3 shirts and 2 pairs of socks finally using over 20 bandages, still got killed my health bar drained slowly asf, and eventhough i was bandaging it it only slowed the drainage of my health bar. How did i still manage to bleed out smh
Today I was playing. I was driving my car and I drifted around the corner to my base. I went in to fast and crashed (not even that hard) but I fractured my foot. then I took it easy for 4 days but my fracture wasnt healed (thanks slow healer and lvl 0 first aid) but I could walk/run.. I thought why not grab some propane and a torch and drive up the highway to those wreckt car pile ups and get some metal working xp and maybe salvage some parts... I drove there feally fast. a little to fast and I crashed hard. I was at Terminal Damage like 5% remaining and I had fractured my arm. my car hood went from 90% to ruined and my car engene was at 10%.... it sucked really hard since it took me a lot of real life days and many ingame days to build up my sports car to just almost ruin it in like 3 real life hours... The sports car was nice it had like all performence parts and it was a beauty to drive but its also a bit to fast so I crashed 2 times pretty heavely... My character was on a good roll and I hadnt had a single injury for 3 months of him being alive to then have 2 massive injuries in 3 hours haha I need to be more carefull. at least I also did a lot of farming and cleaning up my base but the fractures suck!
In it's current state it's not terribly important at all. Unless you're doing rp as a doctor character or you have infection turned off there are just too few opportunities to even use it. Wait for the new first aid update coming soon
I'm playing multiplayer right now, and first aid is really difficult to use. In order to examine another player, both of you need to not move at all for the few seconds you need to examine them. Then you have to take the time to apply whatever first aid, again without movement. It's easier and better to just have each player handle it themselves.
also for deep wound DONTS - Dont tell your teammate to hold alt wile running with a spear if they spear charge ur back youll geta deep wound my teammate killed me this way lol
How do you heal from a deep wound that you did not stitch? It's not bleeding but I have to bandage every 10 minutes and this has been going on for hours. I even found needle and thread. But won't let me stitch
You forgot to cover how to fix the deep emotional damage this game inflicts on me.
surely you have _some_ antidepressants stockpiled
Bourbon helps
Same way you deal with panic moodles. You slowly get used to it over time.
No joke, panic goes away faster the longer you survive (and by killing zeds too, I think). Desensitization and all that jazz. Mind you, veterans are immune to panic from anything besides nightmares to begin with in exchange for the highest price tag of all the occupations.
Read a comic
bleach xD
Yeah little mistake about deep wounds:
They CAN actually heal without stitches, it just takes a long long time depending on how much you spam fresh bandages on it and traits.
Yep, mine healed after 8 days in the CD DA challenge with slow healer.
My deep wounds usually heal after about 4 or 5 days, with disinfectants and fresh coverage
iT'S THE HARDCORE MAN HIMSELF!
That's what I thought as well... But yeah, he probably thinks it's insane. But sometimes you just don't have the stuff required to stitch it up.
Yeah, they can but damn its not good...
The worst situation I’ve seen a new player do was dying to a neck wound. While pretty obvious after playing for a while, it’s good to mention that sometimes it’s better not to remove a dirty bandage especially from the neck. But that’s only when bleeding is dangerous or there is some danger around the player.
neck wounds are kind of ridiculous in this game though, get scratched on the neck and you die within a minute or something. like it's worse than a deep wound on the legs which is kind of silly...
@@zwenkwiel816 you'd be surprised how fragile the human neck can be. Though to be fair, I highly doubt every scratch on your neck in this game should act like you nicked an artery
when my character had a laceration on the neck i managed to bandage it on the last little bit of health, escaped a horde, waited for hp to go back to about 1/3 and then treat it by applying bandages sterilised in hot water and very slowly repeating the procedure of waiting till 1/3 health and changing the dirty bandage until it stopped causing so much health drain
treating it was a bitch because my character had slow healer, it took like a week to fully heal.
Neck injuries are very dangerous and need to be treated carefully
Yep, neck lacerations need to be dealt with IMMEDIATELY or you WILL bleed out. Rest, eat up, wait to heal up and then remove the bandage as your health falls rapidly once it's off.
Ive got bit in the neck when I started the game managed to survive it but took too long, the most i hate is a near heat stroke/too hot which leads you to sickness
Lol I have hundreds of hours in Zomboid and for some reason I was always under the impression that adhesive bandages were best... Not sure why as it certainly isn't true irl. Thanks for the vid!
Big name, must be good
I thought the same
Easy to get (kinda)
Easy to get rid of (once dirty after you take it off it disappears)
Adhesive bandage has low life, replacing dirty bandages gives Xp. They’re more usable for leveling
It really should be stressed just how dangerous neck wounds are. Got burned randomly on my neck when I was getting rid of corpses, and in the time it took me to disinfect the wound I died.
Yeah it’s pretty annoying how with neck wounds there’s practically no way two disinfect the wound without bleeding out
@@june9914Yeah, unfortunately it’s usually better to just let it get infected and heal very slowly because of the risk of bleed out.
Interesting thing about deep wound: it would heal itself over time and become a regular scratch, but it took for me like a month or so
This is kind of a bare-bones mechanic. I hope they expand it in the future and make it a bit more complex. That way leveling up the first aid skill would actually mean something.
I really hope depending on your first aid skill some things can't be treated, or have a chance to hurt you more. For example I feel like someone with zero first aid knowledge wouldn't know how to remove a bullet or glass from a wound without causing themselves more issues.
@@Mad-rg9sz Or maybe they wouldn't know exactly what a wound was. For example a person with 0 first aid could not identify a fracture from a broken bone.
Honestly a really simple way to make first aid more viable is to 1) extend it to cover sickness better and 2) make bites a 90-95% chance of zombie infection rather than 100%, but still with a 100% or near 100% chance of normal infection if it doesn't zombify. That way being bitten is actually a scary, stressful experience, and doctors have a chance to shine. Without a good doctor, it'll be hard to tell if your rapidly spiraling health means you're dead or only *probably* dead, and it's worth attempting to cling to life with a well-leveled character
Very helpful beginner tutorial, and even regular players don't know some of this stuff
I almost died by busting in the window of a step van and getting a huge cut. I had previously found a first aid kit but didn’t immediately understand how to open it, and then I didn’t understand why the bandages were getting so dirty in literal seconds. I asked Google and it told me to sew the wound shut, and that worked and saved my life
and then blud launched project zomboid 🗣🔥
Game devs should add, that leveling first aid to a high level gives you the (small) chance to clean bite wounds and cut/burn out infected flesh before it spreads to the brain saving your character. Maybe with a permanent debuff to your HP.
Since the dev dont want a cure from bites, I'd suggest just ways to delay the zombification until they find the necessary tools for amputation. Regular players that try to amputate will bleed alot and bleed through bandages fast, eventually getting infected, until an actual expert at First Aid person could take care of it.
Personally I wish the odds for infection were like, 97%. Not to make the game easier, but because I want the role play aspect of, "You don't have to exile me guys! I'll be fine, i promise!"
(9:09) Bandages may have less HP then Rags, but Bandages weight far less than Rags, even in bulk...
Adhesive Bandages are really good for leveling first aid because of that. Get a a scratch and go through like 5 adhesives in a couple days compared to like, 1 sterilized bandage.
Reminder that eating lemongrass which you get by foraging will decrease your sickness from food poisoning! This is essential if you've chosen the otherwise excellent weak stomach debuff which is quite popular. I think it is possible to forage lemongrass without needing the herbalist magazine.
Why would you get poisoned tho? Weak stomach is only a problem if you eat rotten food, so just don't eat it, mushrooms and berries can be avoided if you have the herbalist trait or have the herbalist magazing, allowing you to identify the posinous foods that you forage, tainted water is actually safe to drink if you don't drink it from a container (you will only die if you are in a really shitty condition, like, "actively trying to die" type of condition), lemongrass is more of a convenience rather than a necessity, since poisonous stuff (as of now) is easily avoided
Yes it is possible i found it yesterday
I can feel my first aid stat climbing
this helped me alot since i'm the doc in my group, so knowing these small things is good for me and treating my friends
I got a level 10 first aid guy once and the healing rate is amazing, deep glass wounds healed in no time
Heat a cooking pot filled with water and you will be able to sterilize rags and bandages. Just put the pot inside the oven, turn it on and then right click the cooking pot :)
Yes: 8:42
Yeah, prevents (wound, not zombie) infection.
Nice! Lots of stuff I didn't even know
This game is deep. It's kind of overwhelming. But also really awesome.
Thanks for the excellent guide
I'm excited about sprinter ep4 is comming. I really hope you don't die in the ep. Thank you for the another detailed and concise vid.
I'm playing with Expanded Helicopter Events (great mod btw) and had a military chopper do a strafing run around me, ended up with three lodged bullets. These can't be removed by hand and I had no tweezers, so bandaging only slowed down the health drain a little. Pretty much a death sentence and now I always have a pair of tweezers on me.
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Good stuff, keep'em coming!
Not really a noob anymore, but Zeds videos are always worth watching. 👍
Oh, and neck wounds are brutal, the speed you can bleed out is just horrific.
You'll bleed A LOT faster if you have Anemic (more traits mod). It's terrifying XD
I got a laceration on my neck and god damn i nearly bled out in the time it took me to put on a bandage
thank you , sir!
thanks homie this is a very good tutorial
interestingly enough, do not drop your sharp weapon on the floor randomly, because if you stepped on it barefooted, it will damage your feet. it happened to me once while I'm doing a naked jogging and accidentally stepped my spear that I dropped. Always wear your shoes, guys
Hyper realistic
damn thats some attention to detail
Thank you for the sickness section been looking for that for a while now, cuz the way my characters die is because their sick. You just helped a lot.
i thought getting bitten was cure able until i become zoms...
nice tips bro
I really want this to go more in-depth and be more realistic. I know it probably will never happen due to gameplay reasons but I would love to actually have diseases be a big part of PZ. Something that might be an idea is the usage of multiple bandages. The modern advice on applying bandages to wounds is that if the first one bleeds through, a second can be applied. If that one is also bled through, they are removed and a fresh one applied. then the cycle repeats.
interesting thanks
The developers talked about getting in some of this mechanics more deeply at some points so it will probably be addressed at some point.
Do we have any idea if sterilized bandages/rags have a disinfectant power?
First thing I do when spawning in, is turning my under shirt and socks into bandages. You always find them and you never know if the first or second zombie gets you
Got a neck bite once. If you bandage it fast enough, you won't bleed out. But on the other hand, that only prolongs the inevitable.
I used to have zombie infections set to instant death until very recently just because it's a 100% mortality clock with absolutely no countermeasure (yet? ever?)
Like sure, I applaud the "realism" (as far as a zombie game can be realistic) of it, but I ended up just walking into a swarm or starting a new game once bitten anyway because I mean... what's the actual point when you're just waiting to die anyway? There's nothing to play for anymore. Even a single cure item, randomly placed on world generation would make me at least enjoy it to some extent, desperately rushing around hoping I might find it on a character I've grown attached to, but since there's no such thing, I elected to just make it kill me and save me the uncertainty and waiting.
I say recently because I've now just turned off zombie infection outright. For many I imagine the elevated risk of dying to a single bite or scratch adds to their enjoyment, but for me it just takes away from the experience. I'm more than capable of getting myself killed in stupid ways on my own without a diceroll determining I'm just dead now.
Thanks for the info really helpful! and much appreciated!
During around 1:35, I have never seen my char falling like that. Was quite hilarious seeing that. xD
In regards to drinking tainted water, as far as I can tell, you can actually drink from natural water sources like lakes and the river. I never, in over 700h, got sick from drinking directly from them. Yet, if you drink such water from outside a container or a barrel, its almost certain I got sick through it. It might be a bug, yet for now, Id make the claim its "safe" to drink from natural water sources.
I still can't get over the fact you die from drinking rain water, like wtf. Even if it's contaminated with multiple evaporated chemicals like acids, boiling it won't really make it safe
I said it back then and I say it again:
The thing that zeds can kill you so easily is fine. Scratches are fine and bites are supposed to be letal.
The problem is how rarely you are gonna use the first aid mechanic. two out of three injurie types from zeds are almost not even worth to treat and you are better of with a bottle of bleach.
And beside zed injuries, it is surprisingly difficult to get treatable injuries that don't turn you into a zed if you are not completly brain afk and jump through the same broken window over and over again.
The most logical thing in my opinion is to add more ways to hurt yourself.
Maybe add injuries for carrying too much for too long, or give zeds a few more damage types that are not contagious like bruises.
I would be even fine with a sprain ankle when run/walk with too much stuff.
Just let me open the first aid menu more than once, max twice in one run.
lmao "brain afk" I'm totally stealing that phrase
Car crashes that break your windshield should bruise and scratch you, having your car window broken should scratch you, there should be a very small chance that you can get scratched at low levels of carpentry when dismantling things or making barricades. Cooking at low levels should also carry the small chance at a laceration when using a knife, and a scratch when doing most other things. Wearing shoes with holes in them should have a small chance of causing blisters on feet which would need to be bandaged to reduce pain, getting sick should be more common, and antibiotics should be able to directly combat things like respiratory illnesses, tainted water and whatnot so that you can actually forage up penicillin (and make it so that when you compost there's a chance of it spawning) and there should be bruises and contusions like in NEO scavenger.
Imagine if having a high bite/scratch resist could allow zombies to still bruise you to hell.
Because as it stands, I level my first aid by repeatedly sprinting into a wall just so that there's a very small chance that if I ever snap my leg, my splint will actually allow me to run while splinted. Because increasing the life of bandages is such a nonissue since if a wound is bleeding so fast that you need to constantly replace it, that just means you need to stop taking off the bandage altogether until the bleeding slows.
@Salt Meister I played in a MP PvE server. Nobody cared about the guy that got level 10 First aid because nobody broke their legs and survived long enough to be helped.
Instead, the level 10 tailor was constantly busy. I've always told people this and I will say it a million times over.
Level tailoring hardcore and you will turn even a tank top into 16% bite protection with leather strips by itself. Having 64% bite protection on your arms because of a level 7 tailor is vital. (Neck and hands are the least protected though since there was a nerf to helmets and to the hoodie's hood.)
Foraging in a deep forest also causes scratches, and in some cases Lacerations, too. It works best, when you're not wearing only shoes and socks. I often use that skill to help level my first aid. Digging furrows with your bare hands also helps level the first aid skill.
Having a doctor on a team would be a life saver at times when needed, like lets say you have a fighter/combat character thats get hurt sometimes, the doctor can help with treating people after a PVP fight.
My first exposure to deep wounds, I had my clothes in the dryer and didn't realise there was glass of the floor. That was how I died, well the injury lead to me being super slow and getting got
This was so useful. Thank you
I just enjoyed this video . Slowly but greatly explained
5:20 some mods like “the only cure” allow you to cut you hand to arm on both arms to prevent zombie infection
Fun fact, a burn on your neck functions the same as if it were a deep wound. I have no idea why they just do in the game. Get a burn on your neck and remove the bandage and your health plummets like you were bleeding out
Damn I'm holed up in the muldrough tavern with a bad neck wound. Was trying to get guns from the police station and it went VERY wrong....my base is on the other side of town so wish me luck. I do have a bunch of molotov coctails now at least
2:09 Deep wounds happen in car crashes as well
thanks for the fire tip!
I would love if they added a training dummy, First Aid show, or the ability to practice on zombies.
one mod has doctors have the ability to train First Aid Sewing injuries that zombie corpses have.
loved every bit of this video top teir
Every day, I stray closer and closer to getting Zomboid.
Just need to kick down the paywall.
The broken glass idea to level first aid is okay, but you can often get the glass shards, which is less than ideal.
A much better way to safety get injured is to dig furrows with your hands. Zero chance of infection, glass shards, and it is a minor wound.
Foraging also helps, just take off most of your clothes, except the shoes and just let yourself get scratched by the tree branches.
Correct me if I am wrong but adhesive bandages have a apply speed much higher than all the other bandages, this means it is good to use when clutching near large amounts of zeds and you just need to stop bleeding. Especially if you get a neck wound, apply a sticker and GTFO
this was very helpful, thank you. i havnt noticed a need to heal burns, usually ya just burst into flame and its over, lol
Are you from Serbia? I saw some of you bookmarks in browser in other video. Good content btw 😁
I always thought that the lack of "stop. drop & roll" to extinguish flame was kinda cheap, but maybe it's a coding limitation. I've only burned myself once in 1,400 hours; like your advice to avoid breaking windows with your hands, you almost have do something you know is dumb. My excuse is that I made a camp fire while walking to another town with a crew of Superb Survivors and they started walking into the fire. The next thing I know there's like six of them going up like logs. Pure bedlam as this is my first time with fire not in a wood stove and I got burned.
I got stabbed by an NPC I was attempting to boot from the group in b40 and that was a treat.
I don't put base point in 1a, but I'll advance it in game. It's nice to see someone with something to say about 1st aid besides "it's worthless". Thank You!
Are bites 100% confirmed infection for the latest build? My friend and I were playing and he got bit and didn't get the virus. I don't if it just glitched or what, but the server settings were normal.
Did your friend perhaps godmode himself for a moment to get rid of the injury? Because it’s 100%.
Current build is 100% mortality rate, if god mode is turned on for someone they will lose the wound and zombie infection though. That's my only guess if the server settings are default.
Should be. Unless you altered infection mortality rates in sandbox mode to just give you a nasty-but-curable infection from bites instead of Knox Fever, if you get munched on, you're dead.
I don't think he turned on godmode , but maybe he accidentally changed something or was mistaken. Thank you for the conformations!
@@Nick-zm2vm In the old build, it was like a 99% chance, so there was that 1% chance to survive.
I’m late to the party, but if you’re in a pinch and don’t have a sheet, you can rip up clothing as well to make ripped sheets. Saved my life when I was running outside and had an extra t-shirt for one reason or the next.
I was thinking, there should be a negative trait called something like 'tunnel-vision' which narrows your fov when you start to get panicked. Don't know where to share this so if anyone knows how to get it to the devs, please tell!
That's in the game already
@@TimG594 oh, welp, haven't encountered it yet, or didn't notice. Either way, thanks for the heads-up
And they all lived happily ever after
One thing about Deep Wounds and having them on the foot is that they cause limping and greatly reduced movement rate, even when you use bandages. Only stitches will help you get your walking speed back and stop limping.
I've healed plenty of deep wounds with sterilized rags, never knew you could stitch it, never found a needle actually...
Thanks for the guide.
I really like games with complex mechanics but for some reason i couldnt understand the one in PZ.
For bitten wound, u can press q to take antibody
its a shame that in a year or so this guide will be completely outdated... as they have plants to overhaul both the medical system and traits/professions..(to make the more useless professions more viable and doctors actually useful)
Yeah, they have a *long* way to go if they want to match CDDA's medical system, seeing as they seem so inspired by that game as it is.
@ThatGuyHarv In that 10 years they added 3D models instead of spritework (spritework being time consuming for every animation added.), reworked their netcode from the ground up, overhauled most of the game's code and tbh, development won't take nearly as long anymore because TIS actually finally started hiring more people to work with them.
They've been making great progress ever since they hired more people tbh. It's what allowed them to add content to the game alongside pushing out multiplayer.
as i RP as doctor i have to remember everything so carefully
great video! tysm
They should add in bruises. It would be like a fracture were it could give you a limp or something but it just last a day or two.
Could be something the cold pack can be good for.
@@ramvincentpaulvictor4365 exactly
First aid is a skill you basically give to one player in MP if they want to roleplay a medic. It takes a long time for little reward so having one person heal 5 peoples wounds is likely the only way to level it without purposefully injuring yourself or others.
Such a deep video I cried and shitted and came
Cheers for the tut
Deep wounds can heal without stitching but it takes ages, also bites can heal but you'll still die
You can also get infected if you get scratched from removing broken glass
Bruh I just died to illness. I got scratched, bandaged with rag while still in the fight, once it got dirty I removed it, cleaned it with the wipes (while still in the fight), once clear shortly after, bandaged with an actual bandage then immediately went home, took medication then reapplied with a STERILIZED bandage then took sleeping pills and went to sleep. When I woke up I removed the bandaged which revealed a healed wound then took more medication. After this I started to get a fever so I took MORE medication and sat in my truck using the a/c making sure my temp was perfect. I died from the illness… what did I do wrong??
A stitch should never be bandaged, as it increases the healing rate by approximately 6-fold, while also increasing the chance of infection.
Up!
forgot to say about lemon grass treating sickness and food poisoning and the other foraging medicine but this video cover all the rest
Would've been nice to see how long each injury takes to heal by default
This is the only nursing class I can understand
Another tip: Never let a zombie attack you from behind; this is a guaranteed bite!
Apparently you can disinfect a wound with cologne now. Can't imagine that'd be fun.
Bites also bleed so watch out changing bandages if you are low health.
I know First Aid skill is kinda useless, but in multiplayer, I think it could very usefull, specially if PVP is enabled, perhaps even, it could save lives.
For example: Your friend got shot onto the chest, and there is people chasing you, you bandage him up, both of you got no time to remove dirty bandages, so there's a big chance his wound would get infected, but with longer bandage life, it could help alot.
And another case would be in the same spot, you need to heal him as fast as possible, since you don't know when they will strike back.
Died of deep wounds on my feet. It's the ultimately stupid death. Wear shoes, people
Also, always watch your feet in the game. Stomping zombies with your shoes can wear them out, too.
You can exploit to lv up by standing bare foot in a broken glass and removing it from your foot non stop.
You can do this as long as you do not have "disinfect or die" mod active.
Is there an OST from "Commandos" game starts at 09:05?)
Foraging is still Nice, aka: common mallow, gets rid of cold quicker
Foraging naked in the deep woods can cause scratches, which does help the First Aid skill.
@@JoseMolina-ij3xx it does on a RNG as i know, but using the combat instance to move you can i think kinda cheat to avoid injuries, but most of the times you wont get lucky
@@KyubiHitashi These are scratches caused by the trees you are trying to move around in, not from zombies.
Bandaging over a stitch lengthens the healing, leave it open :)
Correction: Deep Wounds do in fact heal without stitches. If my previous experiences haven't failed me it takes roughly 2 weeks to heal without stitches.
do vitamins do anything in multiplayer? where sleep is disabled
Fatigue reduction is not just sleep but exertion, so vitamins help you recover quicker from it or reduce it enough so you can sprint again in a bad situation where you need to leg it
This game is brutal, dies three times first day, finally have a character that’s lived a day and made it out of town. Had to go back to town for gas and after three separate hoards chased me. I’m hurt, exhausted and holed up in a retail bathroom. Hopefully this helps. Because I still haven’t gotten to the gas station.
If you sterilize the bandage, it will heal things faster.
i got a scratch on my neck, full health and all, i ripped like 3 shirts and 2 pairs of socks finally using over 20 bandages, still got killed my health bar drained slowly asf, and eventhough i was bandaging it it only slowed the drainage of my health bar. How did i still manage to bleed out smh
If you're not a smoker, but smoke, you will experience nausea but decrease anxiety
got shot 3 times from another guy, killed him, glad I had 4 trauma bags in my base to stich myself up
Today I was playing. I was driving my car and I drifted around the corner to my base. I went in to fast and crashed (not even that hard) but I fractured my foot. then I took it easy for 4 days but my fracture wasnt healed (thanks slow healer and lvl 0 first aid) but I could walk/run.. I thought why not grab some propane and a torch and drive up the highway to those wreckt car pile ups and get some metal working xp and maybe salvage some parts... I drove there feally fast. a little to fast and I crashed hard. I was at Terminal Damage like 5% remaining and I had fractured my arm. my car hood went from 90% to ruined and my car engene was at 10%.... it sucked really hard since it took me a lot of real life days and many ingame days to build up my sports car to just almost ruin it in like 3 real life hours... The sports car was nice it had like all performence parts and it was a beauty to drive but its also a bit to fast so I crashed 2 times pretty heavely... My character was on a good roll and I hadnt had a single injury for 3 months of him being alive to then have 2 massive injuries in 3 hours haha I need to be more carefull. at least I also did a lot of farming and cleaning up my base but the fractures suck!
If there was maybe a bleed out feature where you could save a player with higher first aid skill it would be really nice in multiplayer.
I belive you can also get sickness from smoking too much at once.
Really great guide. However, when you say vitamins reduce “tiredness” that can be a bit misleading. Vitamins only reduce fatigue, not drowsiness.
actually no, vitamins reduce drowsiness currently - they make you "less sleepy" and make you last longer before needing sleep.
If you have fracture at your foot, don't carry more than your max carry weight as it will worsen your fracture injury.
Hey while I'm here, do you think the medical skill would be more useful in multiplayer? Also loved the video
In it's current state it's not terribly important at all. Unless you're doing rp as a doctor character or you have infection turned off there are just too few opportunities to even use it. Wait for the new first aid update coming soon
I'm playing multiplayer right now, and first aid is really difficult to use. In order to examine another player, both of you need to not move at all for the few seconds you need to examine them. Then you have to take the time to apply whatever first aid, again without movement. It's easier and better to just have each player handle it themselves.
also for deep wound DONTS - Dont tell your teammate to hold alt wile running with a spear if they spear charge ur back youll geta deep wound my teammate killed me this way lol
How do you heal from a deep wound that you did not stitch? It's not bleeding but I have to bandage every 10 minutes and this has been going on for hours. I even found needle and thread. But won't let me stitch