i will admit i thought the same thing. im like oooo where. cause all 5g isps are unlimited only to a certian point then massive throttle and charge 10$ per gig
When STH reviewed a bunch of these a few years ago, none of them could get close to 5Gbps, and they were big, bulky, and expensive. It’s nice that this one seems to be close to 5Gbps and cheap… but the software support looks quirky for now, which isn’t what I generally want when connecting with Ethernet.
Yeah, driver support is still working its way down to all the OSes... hopefully within a year or two, this chipset will be well supported everywhere (and Apple will understand what "5000 Mbps" means lol).
What STH reviewed years ago is a different vendor chipset (Aquantia) and due to the choice of USB PHY they were coupled with at the time they were not capable of achieving full throughput, the MAC chipset was. These adapters are capable of full throughput.
That's because at the time the USB side of the chip could only link at 5gb, the missing 1.5gb was the overhead, this new chip can link at 10gb on the USB side so can deliver 5gb on the Ethernet side.
@@marcogenovesi8570 You'd be surprised how broken i225 drivers AND chips are Once the proper realtek drivers filter into the kernels its off to the races. Because of the stability issues of i225 and i226 im using 8125BG in my router and its been flawless
I kinda forgot that ethernet speeds exist in 5gb so I thought it was 5G, as in cell connection. That would be wild if it was that. Still cool to have though! It's a nice option to have.
@@eat.a.dick.google Edge is a thing, but nobody would confuse 1G with a usb ethernet adapter. Misleading title. This is not a revolutionary 5g cellular modem.
Both of these devices are brilliant, thanks for featuring them! A 5gbit adapter that doesn't have a captive cable is nice (especially at that price) and integrating the ethernet adapter directly into the male plug is genius for short temporary/test runs. Almost like a poor man's direct attach cable!
Having a 5Gbps USB network adapter is fantastic for those who need to build an ITX NAS, and the single PCI-e slot needs to be used up for an HBA for the drives. Otherwise one needs to get a motherboard that has built-in 5 gigabit ethernet, which only comes on newer and very expensive boards, whereas with this you can just use existing hardware you might already have.
Hey Jeff, I don't know if anyone has pointed this out in the comments yet or not, but you might consider changing "5G" to 5GbE. I know the title and thumbnail both say Ethernet and the thumbnail shows an ethernet cable, but I just REALLY want to get upset on the internet today and doing this makes me feel smart. /s
On the Windows system it is using the proper Realtek driver. On macOS it is running the adapter in its compatibility mode with the CDCE driver, same goes on other OS's with such a driver and if they don't have an updated driver with the proper functionality and USB device ids.
Just bought a 5Gbps USB adapter from Wavlink that uses the same Realtek chip. Cost me a little over $12 converted from my country's currency. Should arrive in a few days.
@or1013 i only have a 2.5GbE switch, unfortunately. That said, 2.5Gbps performance was great! Hoping to buy a 5GbE switch soon, but there's just not many of them around.
For certain projects I still use 10mbps ethernet... when I put an IP phone in a shed and the only wires running out there are old telephone wires. Just in case people wonder why it still exists.
I saw these in PCIE card format, Realek really did some quality work. Cheap and keeps cool, I ran the card in unraid and did not have issues, only had to add the drivers from the plugin shop.
Nice one, Jeff. I tested the WisdPi adapter too. I had the exact same experience on macOS. On Windows 11 under load (generated traffic by iperf3) it often freezes and disconnects. On Raspberry Pi 5 and 4 I had no luck yet - I ran into driver issues. The thermal performance is great though, it runs warm but so much significantly cooler than the 10 GbE adapters based on AQC chip.
Hopefully Realtek can get the driver stuff sorted better. It's already faster than my 2.5G adapters at home and the office, so I'm using it for my laptop.
Show me some affordable 5GbE switches. Networking companies seem to be ignoring everything but 2.5GbE, which is honestly kind of a pointless upgrade when 5GbE splits the difference in performance and cost between 10GbE and is a lot more appealing.
I got this same 5gbps dongle and it works great. I use it to give 5gbps connection from my laptop straight to my nas which has X550-T2 built in on the motherboard. I do a direct connection without a switch using one of the two ports. I get transfers of about 500mb/s sustained for large files. I just saved money by not having to buy a milti-gigabit swith.
This will be a nice future upgrade for my HPE Proliant MicroServer Gen10 Plus in the future. Having a USB solution is needed with the only PCIe slot being taken up by an NVME to PCIe adapter board.
Thanks for the video. I've been looking for a quick simple tool to test bandwidth to help me locate bottleneck problems, and the iperf app is exactly what I've been needing. Thanks!
YES. I spent so much money trying to upgrade the connection from my laptop and desktop to 5Gbps but in the end I realized I'd have to spend yet another $200 to get a thunderbolt to ethernet cable adapter since my computer didn't even have a 5 gigabit ethernet port.
First question I would ask is why do you NEED that much bandwidth? Unless you are on an ultra-fast 'net connection you'll still bottleneck badly at your router, and if you are looking for internal LAN use only the extra speed would be overkill for all but the heaviest network usage.
@@looneyburgmusic It's mostly so I can transfer huge files between my laptop and desktop quickly (10-50 gb). Though I admit it's overkill for everything else and a large part of it is doing it for fun.
@@nreh0 Fun part I can understand. I used to be like that, but now I'm older and more lean towards "functional". Have a 1gbit network here that easily handles nightly backups to my NAS while I'm sleeping, which is good enough for me.
I'm very happy higher speed Ethernet is now that cheap. I hope more computers could have those speeds in a very near future, there isn't any excuse to add NICs like that :-)
The S+RJ10 modules are real hotheads. One of our customers uses them, and since their rack didn't have active cooling we had to install tiny USB-powered fans to cool the modules down, otherwise the switch would constantly complain about high temps... Mikrotik even recommends not installing them in directly adjacent SFP+ slots, at least for switches where the slots are directly next to each other. Might work a bit better on yours since the slots are more spaced out. Good to know that 5Gbit/s hardware is slowly getting affordable, but as you said, outside of professional use (or with power users) most people are probably still fine with 1GBit/s.
Mikrotik honestly has garbage cooling for their SFP+ slots. I got told "they're passive what do you expect?" (That's a direct quote) I didn't get a response to "That the indent in the chassis made to carry away heat actually gets warm." So, I opened it up... Theres literally no features on the PCB added to remove heat, in fact it looks like there's nothing but a single ground layer, the rest being FR4.
Nice video - might be an idea to retest when WIn11 24H2 hits general availability (hopefully mac and Linux will play nice too to negotiate a 5gbps link in their next major releases as well)
TP Link came out with a small unmanaged silent 8 port switch recently. It's about 6x4 in and sells for about 100usd. All the new motherboards have 2.5g. It was finally time to switch. Also picked up one of those topton N100 quad 2.5g systems for 120usd to use for a router & other services.
this is perfect, I recently put some 10Gb backhaul in, and have some 2.5Gb ports for clients, but I have a 2.5/5/10Gb port as well. After moving an 88GB file at 2.5Gb from my NAS to my PC, this would be a welcome upgrade until I upgrade my PC to full 10Gb, and can maybe use this for other stuff like my laptop... once I have more 5Gb ports on my network :P
Take it up with WisdPi! I call it "5 Gig" or "5 Gbps", I'm just calling it what the product name shows, plus it creates a lot more engagement in the comments :)
a few months back I bought some cheap 2.5G PCIe cards thinking I could run direct from PC to NAS for video editing. But win10 does not route, so the NAS ended up stranded on its own segment. Ended up buying a TP-link 2.5G 5port switch, so now PC, 2 NAS's, and sons PC in the next room are all 2.5G, making my home network officially faster than my office network (at a major university) which is still 1Gbit.
Both my workstation and NAS have X550-T2 that's built in with the motherboard. I direct connect both using a single Cat 7 ethernet cable. With my laptop, I use this 5gbps dongle and ethernet into the second ethernet port on my NAS. For both I get close to 5gbps speeds. I'm running spinning HDs on ZRAID 3.
Still remember installing IIT cat5 STP cable rated to 500MHz back in the early 2000s, I think every site ripped it out as their new it support companies said they needed Cat5e to run gigabit!
I'd put money on the Mac only having 5gb USB ports, the missing 1.5gb is the overhead, you need to plug it into a 10gb USB port to get 5gb on the Ethernet side.
All USB-C Ports on the Mac Studio are 10Gb capable, The USB-A Connectors on the back are only 5Gb. Buit it would be interesting what the result would be with the Thunderbolt ports on the back. I have one of these cheap Aliexpress USB4/TB3 10Gb interfaces for my Macbook Pro and I get normal speeds around 9.25Gb so I would assume that the macOS driver for these 5Gb NIC is not really optimized.
Yeah I didn't think about trying one of the TB4 ports, but may retest like that. I should probably upgrade someday to the higher tier Mac Studio, would be nice having all that TB4 bandwidth everywhere!
No, whatever default NCM driver that's being used on MacOS is trash, although I got closer to 4.3 gbit when I tested these. After my experience with Realtek's 2.5gbE dongles, I'd say give it one more stepping and a couple of years of driver development first. It's a pity, Realtek needs more competition.
I "upgraded" to 10g a couple years ago and it was cool unboxing and setting it up, but truth is I just don't have anything that can drive it in my home lab. you're always bottlenecked by SATA, spinning rust, or something else. Even my NAS is lucky to deliver 300MB/s. Despite that, I still turn and look when a 100g adapter walks by.
in Italy the 1Gb internet connection is gradually disappearing. Today if I go to make a new contract for Internet connection I am offered fiber ( FTTH ) connection at the speed of 2.5Gb / 5Gb / 10Gb, so these adapters will be more and more useful to make the most of the bandwidth. In large cities the Internet connection is only fiber ( FTTH ) at the speed of 5Gb / 10Gb / 25Gb.
@@Level2Jeff A large portion of major cities in the US have 1 Gbps and many have faster speeds via AT&T, Verizon, Google Fiber, Ziply and a handful of other FTTH providers. Major cable co's have also mostly provided 1 Gbps service and some are months away from offering much faster speeds as DOCSIS 3.1+ and compatible (DOCSIS 4) modems roll out and respective backend changes are made to add more network capacity.
@@Level2Jeff in italy we went from adsl 680K / 2Mb / 7Mb / 10Mb / 20Mb to fiber FTTC 60Mb and after a while they got to FTTH connection. I have Fiber coming into my home and going to direct in the router. The push for faster connsione in italy as FTTH and 5G came from the European community and then there were investments from the government that brought the birth of OpenFiber that is connecting everyone with fiber. With direct fiber to the home from what is known you can get 10Gb or more it is just a matter of software setup and compatibility of the Router in the home ps. My city has only 32254 people
You need to check what speeds the device supports via the SFP+ ports. Just because you insert a SFP+ transceiver that supports 2.5Gb or 5Gb, the router/switch may not. The SFP+ ports in my Ubiquiti Dreamwall only support 1Gb or 10Gb.
Very cool. I have a stupid question -- how are you screen recording Safari and Terminal, maximized, such that they perfectly fill the 3840x2160 frame, while being large enough to easily view/read? Do you have a 3840x2160 display connected to your Mac, or are you doing other magic to accomplish this? I constantly fight with macOS screen recording to make it look right, be it in ScreenFlow or OBS.
I think he records by just directly copying the screen output. He's been recording direct raspberry pi output with no OBS/ScreenCap on the RPI in sight. Once you can do that I would imagine it is easy to make font size and whatnot to your liking on Apple OS's
Still not down to 1G levels of "$10 for a cheap switch", but getting closer. Certainly enough that anyone building out a little homelab should go with 2.5 Gbps at least now.
The 2.5Gbit realtek based usb cards I've tested here had stability issues. I was getting downgrade to 100Mbit once every few days (tests were done on mac). That was so annoying that I went back to wifi. I hope that these new 5Gbit chips are more stable.
Good tip about the old iperf3 3.1.3 for windows, I installed the latest 3.17.1 and I'm getting full 10gbit speeds, 9.5Gbits/s instead of 7Gbit/s, in my Windows to Linux tests.
Hope there’s a pcie version too. Would probably be the easiest way to cheaply link a home nas to my pc at decent ssd speeds(sata, but still) lol. Thought as you said the 2.5gb and up switches are pretty expensive, I guess a crosslink ethernet cable would be better a fit?
There is! I haven't yet gotten one but WisdPi sells a PCIe Gen 3 card, plus a little SFP module that does 1/2.5/5G, which is nice. All pretty reasonably priced.
I just use my light fiber cable, that is tangled with magic particles, really faster than anything, even light. Faster and indefinable a tee, & beyond.
I've got the same WisdPi 5Gbps adapter. In my laptop (both Ubuntu 24.04 and Ubuntu 25.04) it's unstable. However, in my NUC (Ubuntu 25.04) it works great: 3.3 Gbps (limited by USB 3.x?). The problem with my laptop might be a power thing.
I noticed it's a usb 3.2 device, I wonder if some of the speed caps below 5G come down to an older usb 3.0 chipset on some of your hardware you tested it on as well.
I want one which works properly with Windows Server - after all some of us that in home labs for testing. I don't think the Realtek chips are good for this. I'm surprised Atheros or Broadcom or Intel don't have a usb 2.5 or 5gb adapter for sale.
I stopped using usb 2.5gbit ethernet adapters, i couldnt find one single usb port in my house where they would work reliably. Not usbc, not usb3.2, not on the mainboard, not on a powered usb hub. Neither windows nor linux. Best case they work for a while, but sooner or later they lose connection. I followed any instruction i found in forums, like switching energy saving off etc. I wasted like 2 weeks of my life😂 Most nas forums reiterate that usb is a polling architecture / protocol and therefore unreliable for network connection. I have zero issues with pcie adapters, both 2.5 gbit and 10gbit. The 1gbit usb dongles seem to work, but never tried. Whats your experience?!
My Starlink connection can only fantasize about anything gigabit. I did buy their Ethernet adapter so at least I have a wired network for my computers and streaming box.
Misleading, click bait title. 5gb Ethernet is not "5G". 5G is short for 5ghz, the frequency band being used. Meanwhile, "5G; fifth-generation technology standard for cellular networks, first deployed in 2019."
@BenState finished school most likely before you were born kid, and we aren't talking about SI prefix but industry naming conventions. 5G = CELL Network. The End. It's
I have the WisdPi 5gbps USB adapter. via USB-A it works on 3 of my PCs; via USB-C only one PC. I’ve tried the included cable and 3 other cables without success.
i ve switched to 10Gbit few years ago between some hosts because there is just 2.5 is not enough for me and 5G wasnt anywhere available. With 5Gb i ll be mostly happy
One thing i could never really find a clear answer on was whether or not the switch has to support 2.5/5Gbe if you want to go the SFP+ route, or if its just the tranciever that matters - like you said, most switches are 100m/1Gbe/10Gbe rather than 100m/1Gbe/2.5Gbe etc
i would say people want to just go to 10g - 10g switch prices are dropping fast - saw a 8 port 10g from sodola for 140 - i have sodola 2.5g switch and it works great, i tried 2.5g bonding link agg and it was a hassle - I am going to goto 10g at some point but 2.5 is pretty good for the time being
Glad it exists, but switch availability is absolutely atrocious if you want 5gigE It'd be unironically cheaper to just deploy 10gbit everywhere provided your cabling can handle it.
I really thought this is some weird, stupid random video from some random channel. I mean, I thought the video is about having the 5G (cellular) speed using cable connection. But, it turns out it's indeed just about 5G Ethernet....
Oh, cool! I have a 5gig up/down fiber plan but my motherboard only has 2.5 onboard. I might get this instead of the dedicated network card I was looking at bhecause my mobo is full lol
I think the title needs to be changed to 5Gbps or something. 5G to me means the cellular network 5G
i will admit i thought the same thing. im like oooo where. cause all 5g isps are unlimited only to a certian point then massive throttle and charge 10$ per gig
100% what I thought when I clicked… then I read your comment while an ad played, so I guess I wasn’t quite as disappointed as I could’ve been lol
Agreed
Ditto
I didn't, but now that you say that.. I'm surprised I didn't.
When STH reviewed a bunch of these a few years ago, none of them could get close to 5Gbps, and they were big, bulky, and expensive. It’s nice that this one seems to be close to 5Gbps and cheap… but the software support looks quirky for now, which isn’t what I generally want when connecting with Ethernet.
Yeah, driver support is still working its way down to all the OSes... hopefully within a year or two, this chipset will be well supported everywhere (and Apple will understand what "5000 Mbps" means lol).
What STH reviewed years ago is a different vendor chipset (Aquantia) and due to the choice of USB PHY they were coupled with at the time they were not capable of achieving full throughput, the MAC chipset was. These adapters are capable of full throughput.
That's because at the time the USB side of the chip could only link at 5gb, the missing 1.5gb was the overhead, this new chip can link at 10gb on the USB side so can deliver 5gb on the Ethernet side.
I mean it's realtek, it's normal the software is quirky
@@marcogenovesi8570 You'd be surprised how broken i225 drivers AND chips are
Once the proper realtek drivers filter into the kernels its off to the races. Because of the stability issues of i225 and i226 im using 8125BG in my router and its been flawless
I kinda forgot that ethernet speeds exist in 5gb so I thought it was 5G, as in cell connection. That would be wild if it was that.
Still cool to have though! It's a nice option to have.
I never heard anyone say G for Gb. Gig yes, G no.
For 10 GbE, a lot of times people refer to it as 10G, sometimes 2.5 Gbps as 2.5G, 1 Gbps sometimes 1G, but also Gbase-T, or Gig, or Gigabits, etc.
(And in this case, just using the convention WisdPi used in their product naming, I didn't even think twice about it)
@@Level2Jeff So it's WisdPi using the misleading label.
Wouldn't be the first time.
@@Level2Jeff Some people might but they're wrong. I've never seen anywhere near a lot.
There are PCI-E RTL8126 NICs too. But no cheap switches, so I would not say the 5G Ethernet has entirely arrived yet.
There are some 5 GbE switches with a lot more a few months away just as there are 2.5 GbE switches now.
5Gb not 5G 😅
5Gbps *
@@jamess1787 5Gb is fine.
It’s context accurate. Ethernet speed standard names skip the b as it’s the only option. You don’t refer to network speeds as bytes per second.
@@burnte 5Gb, 5GbE, 5Gbps would be correct. 5G would not. 1G, 10G is not a thing.
@@eat.a.dick.google Edge is a thing, but nobody would confuse 1G with a usb ethernet adapter. Misleading title. This is not a revolutionary 5g cellular modem.
Both of these devices are brilliant, thanks for featuring them! A 5gbit adapter that doesn't have a captive cable is nice (especially at that price) and integrating the ethernet adapter directly into the male plug is genius for short temporary/test runs. Almost like a poor man's direct attach cable!
Having a 5Gbps USB network adapter is fantastic for those who need to build an ITX NAS, and the single PCI-e slot needs to be used up for an HBA for the drives. Otherwise one needs to get a motherboard that has built-in 5 gigabit ethernet, which only comes on newer and very expensive boards, whereas with this you can just use existing hardware you might already have.
Gotta love the Intel Arc sticker on the Mac lol
Hey Jeff, I don't know if anyone has pointed this out in the comments yet or not, but you might consider changing "5G" to 5GbE. I know the title and thumbnail both say Ethernet and the thumbnail shows an ethernet cable, but I just REALLY want to get upset on the internet today and doing this makes me feel smart.
/s
On the Windows system it is using the proper Realtek driver. On macOS it is running the adapter in its compatibility mode with the CDCE driver, same goes on other OS's with such a driver and if they don't have an updated driver with the proper functionality and USB device ids.
it's neat that this device can run in "generic usb ethernet driver" mode, it allows this device to at least work at all even if slower
Just bought a 5Gbps USB adapter from Wavlink that uses the same Realtek chip. Cost me a little over $12 converted from my country's currency. Should arrive in a few days.
did you bench it?
@or1013 i only have a 2.5GbE switch, unfortunately. That said, 2.5Gbps performance was great! Hoping to buy a 5GbE switch soon, but there's just not many of them around.
For certain projects I still use 10mbps ethernet... when I put an IP phone in a shed and the only wires running out there are old telephone wires. Just in case people wonder why it still exists.
I saw these in PCIE card format, Realek really did some quality work. Cheap and keeps cool, I ran the card in unraid and did not have issues, only had to add the drivers from the plugin shop.
Well different chipset.
Huh... I did not know about 5Gbps standard.
Thanks for the video!
Nice one, Jeff. I tested the WisdPi adapter too. I had the exact same experience on macOS. On Windows 11 under load (generated traffic by iperf3) it often freezes and disconnects. On Raspberry Pi 5 and 4 I had no luck yet - I ran into driver issues. The thermal performance is great though, it runs warm but so much significantly cooler than the 10 GbE adapters based on AQC chip.
Hopefully Realtek can get the driver stuff sorted better. It's already faster than my 2.5G adapters at home and the office, so I'm using it for my laptop.
Had this for 2 months now of the back of this video. Very happy. It Just Works™
Show me some affordable 5GbE switches. Networking companies seem to be ignoring everything but 2.5GbE, which is honestly kind of a pointless upgrade when 5GbE splits the difference in performance and cost between 10GbE and is a lot more appealing.
This is the part I am finding frustrating too
The website is a total scam, it just randomly displays whatever when you reload in the "X number sold in the last Y hours" box.
Haha, I just want to say this issue.
Ugh, dark patterns everywhere these days
Cool product review man. Kudos to you for testing this!
Side note: still reading your Ansible book man. Super awesome resource!
I've learned never to use realtek chipsets on linux
Oh Jeff you really love blinking devices 😂
Das blinkenlights!
@@Level2Jeff its "Die" blinkenlights xD or Die blinkenden Lichter... Das for singular, Die for plural.
That is a handy network interface! Very nice video!! :)
I got this same 5gbps dongle and it works great. I use it to give 5gbps connection from my laptop straight to my nas which has X550-T2 built in on the motherboard. I do a direct connection without a switch using one of the two ports. I get transfers of about 500mb/s sustained for large files. I just saved money by not having to buy a milti-gigabit swith.
This will be a nice future upgrade for my HPE Proliant MicroServer Gen10 Plus in the future. Having a USB solution is needed with the only PCIe slot being taken up by an NVME to PCIe adapter board.
And it'll still not work on TrueNAS :(
Thanks for the video. I've been looking for a quick simple tool to test bandwidth to help me locate bottleneck problems, and the iperf app is exactly what I've been needing. Thanks!
Great little review brother. Thanks a bunch.
Nice to see that networking gear prices has once again come little bit down since last I looked 😄
Ordered two, thanks Jeff!
So you're the one who ordered the last two! :D
YES. I spent so much money trying to upgrade the connection from my laptop and desktop to 5Gbps but in the end I realized I'd have to spend yet another $200 to get a thunderbolt to ethernet cable adapter since my computer didn't even have a 5 gigabit ethernet port.
First question I would ask is why do you NEED that much bandwidth? Unless you are on an ultra-fast 'net connection you'll still bottleneck badly at your router, and if you are looking for internal LAN use only the extra speed would be overkill for all but the heaviest network usage.
@@looneyburgmusicyou think people only use Ethernet for the internet?
@@looneyburgmusic It's mostly so I can transfer huge files between my laptop and desktop quickly (10-50 gb). Though I admit it's overkill for everything else and a large part of it is doing it for fun.
@@nreh0 Fun part I can understand. I used to be like that, but now I'm older and more lean towards "functional". Have a 1gbit network here that easily handles nightly backups to my NAS while I'm sleeping, which is good enough for me.
The wisdPi 5gbps adapter just came in. 4.7 up and down on my M4 Mac Mini. So far, it works and works well. $39.99 on Amazon.
I'm very happy higher speed Ethernet is now that cheap. I hope more computers could have those speeds in a very near future, there isn't any excuse to add NICs like that :-)
I'm so ready for 5Gb to become the new 2.5 and 2.5 becoming the cheap mass standard that 1Gb has been for a long time.
The S+RJ10 modules are real hotheads. One of our customers uses them, and since their rack didn't have active cooling we had to install tiny USB-powered fans to cool the modules down, otherwise the switch would constantly complain about high temps... Mikrotik even recommends not installing them in directly adjacent SFP+ slots, at least for switches where the slots are directly next to each other. Might work a bit better on yours since the slots are more spaced out.
Good to know that 5Gbit/s hardware is slowly getting affordable, but as you said, outside of professional use (or with power users) most people are probably still fine with 1GBit/s.
Mikrotik honestly has garbage cooling for their SFP+ slots. I got told "they're passive what do you expect?" (That's a direct quote) I didn't get a response to "That the indent in the chassis made to carry away heat actually gets warm." So, I opened it up... Theres literally no features on the PCB added to remove heat, in fact it looks like there's nothing but a single ground layer, the rest being FR4.
Nice video - might be an idea to retest when WIn11 24H2 hits general availability (hopefully mac and Linux will play nice too to negotiate a 5gbps link in their next major releases as well)
"zero minutes ago"
Not anymore!
4 minutes ago😔
5gig 2fast4U
hey buddy change that title before I call the internet police😂
TP Link came out with a small unmanaged silent 8 port switch recently. It's about 6x4 in and sells for about 100usd. All the new motherboards have 2.5g. It was finally time to switch. Also picked up one of those topton N100 quad 2.5g systems for 120usd to use for a router & other services.
Are you referr8ng to the TL-SG108-M2? I’ve looked at that one, but for my uses, a managed variant would be much more useful.
@@TheOneKEA Very close. It's the smaller TL-SG108S-M2.
this is perfect, I recently put some 10Gb backhaul in, and have some 2.5Gb ports for clients, but I have a 2.5/5/10Gb port as well. After moving an 88GB file at 2.5Gb from my NAS to my PC, this would be a welcome upgrade until I upgrade my PC to full 10Gb, and can maybe use this for other stuff like my laptop... once I have more 5Gb ports on my network :P
Bought one after this vid. Showing up at 10Base-T on my M1 mini!
Update: working great, does close to max bandwidth!
I think the title can use an improvement. 5G most of the time refers to cell connection
It always does. It should say 5 GbE.
Take it up with WisdPi! I call it "5 Gig" or "5 Gbps", I'm just calling it what the product name shows, plus it creates a lot more engagement in the comments :)
I can understand it's their naming and accept that, but you saying you can profit from a misleading title doesn't sound quite right to me.
@@Level2Jeff It says "USB 3.2 To 5GbE Adapter" on their website so I don't get your point unless they changed their product name in the last two days.
@@codyrap95 Then throw away your computer.
Cool, if the cheap chips are out there maybe we'll start seeing them become integrated.
I hope so! Motherboards could use the update too
a few months back I bought some cheap 2.5G PCIe cards thinking I could run direct from PC to NAS for video editing. But win10 does not route, so the NAS ended up stranded on its own segment. Ended up buying a TP-link 2.5G 5port switch, so now PC, 2 NAS's, and sons PC in the next room are all 2.5G, making my home network officially faster than my office network (at a major university) which is still 1Gbit.
Both my workstation and NAS have X550-T2 that's built in with the motherboard. I direct connect both using a single Cat 7 ethernet cable. With my laptop, I use this 5gbps dongle and ethernet into the second ethernet port on my NAS. For both I get close to 5gbps speeds. I'm running spinning HDs on ZRAID 3.
Went to get one and they’re sold out! About 4 hours after your upload. Looks like I’m waiting!! Great video!
Available on Amazon. Cheaper too after considering shipping
D'oh! Hopefully they can restock soon!
We have just restocked our inventory.
Still remember installing IIT cat5 STP cable rated to 500MHz back in the early 2000s, I think every site ripped it out as their new it support companies said they needed Cat5e to run gigabit!
But Cat5 was so easy to pull in bundles... so much harder with Cat6A or the insanity that is Cat8!
@@Level2Jeff we used to get it pre bundled in 4s.
I'd put money on the Mac only having 5gb USB ports, the missing 1.5gb is the overhead, you need to plug it into a 10gb USB port to get 5gb on the Ethernet side.
All USB-C Ports on the Mac Studio are 10Gb capable, The USB-A Connectors on the back are only 5Gb. Buit it would be interesting what the result would be with the Thunderbolt ports on the back. I have one of these cheap Aliexpress USB4/TB3 10Gb interfaces for my Macbook Pro and I get normal speeds around 9.25Gb so I would assume that the macOS driver for these 5Gb NIC is not really optimized.
Yeah I didn't think about trying one of the TB4 ports, but may retest like that. I should probably upgrade someday to the higher tier Mac Studio, would be nice having all that TB4 bandwidth everywhere!
No, whatever default NCM driver that's being used on MacOS is trash, although I got closer to 4.3 gbit when I tested these.
After my experience with Realtek's 2.5gbE dongles, I'd say give it one more stepping and a couple of years of driver development first.
It's a pity, Realtek needs more competition.
I personally tested 10Gbe on cheap cat 5e cable and it worked fine 800+ MB/s transfer. As long as your cable is short like
USB C to Ethernet POE to power the computer 🤤
The product planning is underway, and due to significant heat generation, the product size will also be relatively large.
@@wisdPi Honestly I just want a 10G SFP+ to USB-C transceiver ...
@@Max24871 We will release USB4 10G/25G/40G SFP+ ethernet adapter
@@wisdPi that sounds like exactly what I need
@@Max24871 That's great! We are still wondering if users need such a product
I "upgraded" to 10g a couple years ago and it was cool unboxing and setting it up, but truth is I just don't have anything that can drive it in my home lab. you're always bottlenecked by SATA, spinning rust, or something else. Even my NAS is lucky to deliver 300MB/s. Despite that, I still turn and look when a 100g adapter walks by.
Ya, 10g is only really pegged by NVME (both client and server) file transfers
I would if there is a m2 variant to replace wifi on mobos.
There are a few but usually in 2280 size, so not small enough to replace the 2230 WiFi cards :(
ah, not 5G cellular i was so confused how that was a thing
Great, just what I need, another dongle. It’s awesome to find faster Ethernet that is not costly though.
in Italy the 1Gb internet connection is gradually disappearing. Today if I go to make a new contract for Internet connection I am offered fiber ( FTTH ) connection at the speed of 2.5Gb / 5Gb / 10Gb, so these adapters will be more and more useful to make the most of the bandwidth. In large cities the Internet connection is only fiber ( FTTH ) at the speed of 5Gb / 10Gb / 25Gb.
Wow! We're barely getting 1 Gbps in many cities in the US... hopefully the way they build out we'll get to 2.5, 5, 10 GbE and beyond... someday!
@@Level2Jeff A large portion of major cities in the US have 1 Gbps and many have faster speeds via AT&T, Verizon, Google Fiber, Ziply and a handful of other FTTH providers. Major cable co's have also mostly provided 1 Gbps service and some are months away from offering much faster speeds as DOCSIS 3.1+ and compatible (DOCSIS 4) modems roll out and respective backend changes are made to add more network capacity.
@@Level2Jeff in italy we went from adsl 680K / 2Mb / 7Mb / 10Mb / 20Mb to fiber FTTC 60Mb and after a while they got to FTTH connection. I have Fiber coming into my home and going to direct in the router.
The push for faster connsione in italy as FTTH and 5G came from the European community and then there were investments from the government that brought the birth of OpenFiber that is connecting everyone with fiber.
With direct fiber to the home from what is known you can get 10Gb or more it is just a matter of software setup and compatibility of the Router in the home
ps. My city has only 32254 people
I thought you put a 5G sim in this. Confusing title 😂
Same, was excited for a second
You need to check what speeds the device supports via the SFP+ ports. Just because you insert a SFP+ transceiver that supports 2.5Gb or 5Gb, the router/switch may not. The SFP+ ports in my Ubiquiti Dreamwall only support 1Gb or 10Gb.
For laptops this may be useful, but for desktops just get a 10gbps PCIE NIC. They can be found dirt cheap if buying used.
Plenty of systems and form factors that can't. This offers an option for a lot.
Ooooh that is nice, moving beyond gbit is finally becoming affordable...
Now we need affordable multi-gig switching.
Very cool. I have a stupid question -- how are you screen recording Safari and Terminal, maximized, such that they perfectly fill the 3840x2160 frame, while being large enough to easily view/read? Do you have a 3840x2160 display connected to your Mac, or are you doing other magic to accomplish this? I constantly fight with macOS screen recording to make it look right, be it in ScreenFlow or OBS.
I think he records by just directly copying the screen output. He's been recording direct raspberry pi output with no OBS/ScreenCap on the RPI in sight. Once you can do that I would imagine it is easy to make font size and whatnot to your liking on Apple OS's
Hehe, I have a blog post on it, look up "Resizing macOS app windows for 16:9 screen capture"
@@Level2Jeff Awesome, thank you, sir.
I got one, it can't be beat for the price.
Really neat, 2.5G became much cheaper
Still not down to 1G levels of "$10 for a cheap switch", but getting closer. Certainly enough that anyone building out a little homelab should go with 2.5 Gbps at least now.
2.5 GbE is at 1 GbE pricing now. 1 GbE is down to what was 100 Mbps pricing.
The 2.5Gbit realtek based usb cards I've tested here had stability issues. I was getting downgrade to 100Mbit once every few days (tests were done on mac). That was so annoying that I went back to wifi. I hope that these new 5Gbit chips are more stable.
Perfect for my Netgear MS510TX multi gigabit switch that has two 5Gbps ports.
Good tip about the old iperf3 3.1.3 for windows, I installed the latest 3.17.1 and I'm getting full 10gbit speeds, 9.5Gbits/s instead of 7Gbit/s, in my Windows to Linux tests.
Hope there’s a pcie version too. Would probably be the easiest way to cheaply link a home nas to my pc at decent ssd speeds(sata, but still) lol. Thought as you said the 2.5gb and up switches are pretty expensive, I guess a crosslink ethernet cable would be better a fit?
There is! I haven't yet gotten one but WisdPi sells a PCIe Gen 3 card, plus a little SFP module that does 1/2.5/5G, which is nice. All pretty reasonably priced.
@@Level2Jeff Hmmm! Thanks for this detail!
the S1100WP-8XGT-SE i have, i would consider cheap 10gb gear, and there's no need for any SFP adapters.
It's always handy to have a 5Gbps adapter in your bag so you can connect to the 100Mbps connection at your hotel (if they even have Ethernet).😂
Would be cool of someone made synology drivers for this
wisdpi have got a good wiki showing you how to install it on syno!
the usb cable the A to C could be the problem for the pi speeds being low or the usb port.
Great video!
Could you please do a video on Thunderbolt networking and what is possible?
Short thunderbolt cables cost $5 !
What are you talking about 15cm is an average size for a cable.
What I would really like to see is a low cost small size 10G dongle. 5 at this point is just being skipped over
2024 has been the year of 2.5Gbps for my home. It finally got cheap enough for me.
Not sure if it's the region, but they already raised the price from $34.99 to $41.99.
I just use my light fiber cable, that is tangled with magic particles, really faster than anything, even light. Faster and indefinable a tee, & beyond.
Nice thanks for the recommendation. managed to find on Amazon uk
Supports 5G Lite (2.5G data rate) mode, 2.5G Lite (1G data rate) and GlGA Lite (500M data rate)
I waited for a cgeap usbc adapter with 5gbit . Already got the 5gbit pcie card with the rtl8126 chip.
I've got the same WisdPi 5Gbps adapter. In my laptop (both Ubuntu 24.04 and Ubuntu 25.04) it's unstable. However, in my NUC (Ubuntu 25.04) it works great: 3.3 Gbps (limited by USB 3.x?). The problem with my laptop might be a power thing.
I noticed it's a usb 3.2 device, I wonder if some of the speed caps below 5G come down to an older usb 3.0 chipset on some of your hardware you tested it on as well.
where is the cheap 10gb thunderbolt adapters
They're here just crazy expensive still :(
There isn't even any 2.5G powerline adapters yet. And we're already at 5G?!
Sold out 😅 your obviosly right: we want 5Gb-Lan
Oops. They had at least 18 in stock before I posted the video!
Available on Amazon
I want one which works properly with Windows Server - after all some of us that in home labs for testing. I don't think the Realtek chips are good for this. I'm surprised Atheros or Broadcom or Intel don't have a usb 2.5 or 5gb adapter for sale.
We are testing WP-UT5 with windows server
I stopped using usb 2.5gbit ethernet adapters, i couldnt find one single usb port in my house where they would work reliably. Not usbc, not usb3.2, not on the mainboard, not on a powered usb hub. Neither windows nor linux. Best case they work for a while, but sooner or later they lose connection. I followed any instruction i found in forums, like switching energy saving off etc. I wasted like 2 weeks of my life😂 Most nas forums reiterate that usb is a polling architecture / protocol and therefore unreliable for network connection. I have zero issues with pcie adapters, both 2.5 gbit and 10gbit. The 1gbit usb dongles seem to work, but never tried. Whats your experience?!
My Starlink connection can only fantasize about anything gigabit. I did buy their Ethernet adapter so at least I have a wired network for my computers and streaming box.
Misleading, click bait title.
5gb Ethernet is not "5G". 5G is short for 5ghz, the frequency band being used.
Meanwhile,
"5G;
fifth-generation technology standard for cellular networks, first deployed in 2019."
The most common use of the term 5G refers to cellular networks and respective technology.
Capital G for Giga.
@@BenState not with the industry naming standards
"5G" has ALWAYS meant 5G cellular
@@looneyburgmusic What are you on about? G for Giga is a SI prefix - a capital G. So gigahertz is always GHz. Never ghz. Go to school.
@BenState finished school most likely before you were born kid, and we aren't talking about SI prefix but industry naming conventions.
5G = CELL Network.
The End. It's
I have the WisdPi 5gbps USB adapter. via USB-A it works on 3 of my PCs; via USB-C only one PC. I’ve tried the included cable and 3 other cables without success.
i ve switched to 10Gbit few years ago between some hosts because there is just 2.5 is not enough for me and 5G wasnt anywhere available. With 5Gb i ll be mostly happy
And it's $43 now.
One thing i could never really find a clear answer on was whether or not the switch has to support 2.5/5Gbe if you want to go the SFP+ route, or if its just the tranciever that matters - like you said, most switches are 100m/1Gbe/10Gbe rather than 100m/1Gbe/2.5Gbe etc
I didn't even know that 5Gb was a thing
Did you test USB A on a 'normal computer'? Windows and Linux? Can it achieve full speeds in those cases?
Dude, it’s been around for well over a decade.
i would say people want to just go to 10g - 10g switch prices are dropping fast - saw a 8 port 10g from sodola for 140 - i have sodola 2.5g switch and it works great, i tried 2.5g bonding link agg and it was a hassle - I am going to goto 10g at some point but 2.5 is pretty good for the time being
Glad it exists, but switch availability is absolutely atrocious if you want 5gigE
It'd be unironically cheaper to just deploy 10gbit everywhere provided your cabling can handle it.
I really thought this is some weird, stupid random video from some random channel. I mean, I thought the video is about having the 5G (cellular) speed using cable connection.
But, it turns out it's indeed just about 5G Ethernet....
Oh, cool! I have a 5gig up/down fiber plan but my motherboard only has 2.5 onboard. I might get this instead of the dedicated network card I was looking at bhecause my mobo is full lol
Not sure why so many are confused about the title .. it does say Ethernet .... so pretty clear.... Good review and thanks Jeff....
You could think its a 5G modem (which "converts" 5G to ethernet)
Half duplex? Wouldn't that be uniplex?
"This Guy", his name is Patrick.
dangit... This video came out and everything sold out so fast on the site... cant wait to get this unto my NAS