@@Bob_Smith19 Because no stupid hardware licensing bullcrap, once you own one of their products it's yours to keep, other companies would make you pay rental or subscription fees just to keep it, that and you don't need a business or be part of a business to buy their stuff
3:42 - LAG, MLAG and MC-LAG are slightly different. LAG = link aggregation. MLAG = multi-link aggregation which is link aggregation on more than two links. MC-LAG = multi-chassis link aggregation is MLAG across multiple switch chassis.
The fact that this thing runs SONiC actually gives me a tiny glimpse of trust that they will actually implement dynamic routing - I'd really love to see how their management stuff (some sort of LXC/Docker container no doubt) is interacting with the NOS. That 1GE port located inside the switch is also almost certainly connected straight to the PHY on that Atom on the control plane board
i wish Ubiquiti would just make full sized full on 2.5gbe switches. Ridiculous they want hundreds of dollars for a gigabit switch with like 4 2.5gbe ports
It can't be far off from a release. The new flex mini 2.5g has 5 2.5Gbe ports for £40. Then again, this is ubiquiti and they're not known for following common sense.
wish you guys had a network guy that can do good graphics or a graphics guy that understands network well so you could overlay some visualizations of what jake is talking about.
As a network engineer, I still would not use Ubiquiti hardware over Cisco for medium/large enterprises, especially not in core Data Centers. I'm glad they are finally moving up in the industry.
same here, I'd rather choose Cisco Nexus, Juniper or Arista even for medium sized environments. For small business all the way to Mikrotik imho. For really big and scalable DC setups, SDN solutions like ACI or Apstra.
The external CPU is a SOM(system on module) it is a complete computer in a modular package, it’s a bit more expensive but saves the hardware developer time and licensing to layout their own intel computer. The 2 large connectors underneath can hold pcie, usb, Ethernet and other IO so the developers only have to be concerned the FPGA and switch design. Also the SOM usually has a dev kit that breaks out the IO so the software developers can write the software while the hardware is being created.
This seemed expensive at first, but then I realized that not so long ago, a 48port 1GbE PoE Cisco L3 switch set ya back $3200. This is 100Gb!!! Kinda nuts. And a way better UI too.
8:00 My guess as to why they're in groups of 4 for the SFP form factor is that they're probably using a QSFP+28 chip, broken out into 4 SFP ports, probably simplifies board design opposed to 4xSFP+28 chips
I think they will revise the UCG-Max for future sales and probably do smth with the sold ones via OS updates. Aside from temps issues it is a solid router. Incredibly compact and powerful.
So sad that they went with a 98CX instead of a 98DX like Mikrotik's use. There is no hope for ever getting DCB features on these in the future then, so no RoCEv2.
This is not a 100 gigabit switch. Its a 25 gigabit switch with 100 gigabit uplinks. When you say 100 gigabit switch it usually implies that clients are/can be connected with 100 gigabit. However away from that kinda cool that to se the unifi ecosystem evolve.
That’s not a 100Gig switch is a 25gig switch that has a few 100Gig uplinks. If I have a switch with 48 1Gig ports and 2 10Gig uplink ports it’s not a 10Gig switch.
16:31 exactly. I had a brief work in a datacenter/networking and noticed the most cutting edge switches aren't as full or bulky as the slower ones. I think it's because the fastest switches use modern chip manufacturing nodes and integrate more parts. The switch above is the most spacious I've seen yet.
I would like to see an LTT video about the Secure Gateway Pro 4. It is an end-of-life product, and therefore very cheap on second-hand. I believe it is possible to flash custom firmware on them. I still use one on which I have installed Noctua fans. I hope that I can use it for a while. If I change it out I want something rackmount. Maybe I can reuse the case of the USG-PRO-4 and just put a UXG-Max inside of it?
Basic features like power supply monitoring are a given for any decent business or enterprise switch. Ubiquiti has its place, but there are far better options out there for switching. This feels like it’s released too soon.
Something I can't stand about Ubiquiti switches is that they have no local UI one can easily access with a browser when plugging a laptop into them. Or am I missing something?
As a Network Admin I am kinda concerned that the PSUs is not enough 550w seems quite low if this is 48-SFP28 port each of those SFP28 are likely going to pull somewhere between 5-10 Watts. If fully loaded that is 240- 480 Watts not including the QSFP28 which is somewhere in the same realm of power draw. This switch fully loaded is likely exceeding the power Budget of the 550Watt power supply so I assume that the Secondary Power supply is not fully redundant. If possible load testing this device would be interesting to see.
They are sold with a single power supply by default so I don't believe this would be a problem. Also, even with 480W (48 x 10W sfp28) + 60W (15 * qsfp28) you still have 30W for the ICs. For sure you are tight, but that's absolute worst case scenario with every single link being fully saturated while also doing heavy calculation on the CPU.
Hell yeah this is some great infrastructure content. As a network engineer- loving the network love, and with no practical use for a campus agg switch, still want one
This switch would have been a contender for ToR switches that I put in a year ago. Brand new 25Gb switches without licenses? Easy sell to the boss. SONiC? Even better, a stable open-source switching OS compatible with many other switches. But can the fans be reversed? I prefer the little LEDs being RGB than the whole Ethernet port. That is what they should have done in the first place. Makes the switch ecosystem look much more professional and not so "show-y". Now if only Ubiquiti would build in a dedicated MGMT port, bring back the COM port, and allow the management traffic to route over alternative networks. Also an un-do function for when we mess up and lose connectivity to the switch.
It seems Ubiquiti is finally attempting to be a little more serious and bring things up to par with other network equipment providers. Theres been a whack tonne of new features being added to the console which should have been included since the start, but I'd rather late than never.
I don't know why I like Jake's reviews so much, I barely understand what the things are he reviews and I definitely don't need any of this stuff. I just love his energy.
Man why couldn't they have launched these earlier. I had to buy Mikrotik switches because I needed MLAG for our VM cluster. They're great, but they're the only switches we have that aren't Ubiquiti and it's annoying needing to go to a second place to configure things.
This is basically like Christmas for Jake.
@@HistoriaAlive wow, you're so edgy!
We need a main channel video that shows and explains all of the Ubiquiti stuff.
... or a TechQuickie
SysAdmin channel for network/it stuff
Why bother. Most of their products are never in stock. I will never understand why people use them.
@@Bob_Smith19 I've been able to buy all the products I've needed from ubiquiti without waiting, I can smell the skill issue
@@Bob_Smith19 Because no stupid hardware licensing bullcrap, once you own one of their products it's yours to keep, other companies would make you pay rental or subscription fees just to keep it, that and you don't need a business or be part of a business to buy their stuff
Jake’s got the itches for switches.
big thicky switches at that
The fact Jake used the word "Traditional" to describe a literal screen on the front of a switch really does show how far things have come with tech.
3:42 - LAG, MLAG and MC-LAG are slightly different.
LAG = link aggregation.
MLAG = multi-link aggregation which is link aggregation on more than two links.
MC-LAG = multi-chassis link aggregation is MLAG across multiple switch chassis.
The fact that this thing runs SONiC actually gives me a tiny glimpse of trust that they will actually implement dynamic routing - I'd really love to see how their management stuff (some sort of LXC/Docker container no doubt) is interacting with the NOS. That 1GE port located inside the switch is also almost certainly connected straight to the PHY on that Atom on the control plane board
Yeah SONiC on this is actually a big deal and IMO speaks volumes about how Ubiquiti is approaching the enterprise space.
i wish Ubiquiti would just make full sized full on 2.5gbe switches. Ridiculous they want hundreds of dollars for a gigabit switch with like 4 2.5gbe ports
I feel your pain. This hits too close to home
The 48 Pro Max has 16 2.5G though.
The 48 Enterprise PoE is full 2.5 and full PoE. Compared to other brands there's a lot of value there for the price
It can't be far off from a release. The new flex mini 2.5g has 5 2.5Gbe ports for £40. Then again, this is ubiquiti and they're not known for following common sense.
@@ionstorm66that’s also a $1600 usd switch.
Nice. These look just right for the homenetwork. 😄
When I win the lottery, that’s exactly what I’m doing 😅
Always here for jake being jake about network gear.
wish you guys had a network guy that can do good graphics or a graphics guy that understands network well so you could overlay some visualizations of what jake is talking about.
As a network engineer, I still would not use Ubiquiti hardware over Cisco for medium/large enterprises, especially not in core Data Centers.
I'm glad they are finally moving up in the industry.
same here, I'd rather choose Cisco Nexus, Juniper or Arista even for medium sized environments. For small business all the way to Mikrotik imho. For really big and scalable DC setups, SDN solutions like ACI or Apstra.
Crazy how the beard just disappeared
Needed to do windows updates, :D
I thought you were kidding lol, it was like watching a stable diffusion video
The external CPU is a SOM(system on module) it is a complete computer in a modular package, it’s a bit more expensive but saves the hardware developer time and licensing to layout their own intel computer. The 2 large connectors underneath can hold pcie, usb, Ethernet and other IO so the developers only have to be concerned the FPGA and switch design. Also the SOM usually has a dev kit that breaks out the IO so the software developers can write the software while the hardware is being created.
What surprises me is the decent hardware used inside. Very well thought through and ready for scaling up...
This seemed expensive at first, but then I realized that not so long ago, a 48port 1GbE PoE Cisco L3 switch set ya back $3200. This is 100Gb!!! Kinda nuts. And a way better UI too.
I only clicked this video to see Jake being super hyped about Ubiquiti gear 😅
The whole time I’m expecting Jake to drop them (because he keeps sliding them around crazily close to the edge)
Jake you can’t just not plug a cable in that mystery RJ45 port 😡
VRRP is definately NOT a routing protocol. It allows you to change who's the gateway between 2 layer 3 devices.
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen Jake so happy
8:00 My guess as to why they're in groups of 4 for the SFP form factor is that they're probably using a QSFP+28 chip, broken out into 4 SFP ports, probably simplifies board design opposed to 4xSFP+28 chips
Hope they release a good home router with 2.5 GbE ports and well thought out thermal design
I think they will revise the UCG-Max for future sales and probably do smth with the sold ones via OS updates. Aside from temps issues it is a solid router. Incredibly compact and powerful.
4k US gets you a 400G 32P switch from commodity vendors. Ubi are making a killing on this if they can sell volume.
I was ironically looking at these the other day 😅🤣
So sad that they went with a 98CX instead of a 98DX like Mikrotik's use. There is no hope for ever getting DCB features on these in the future then, so no RoCEv2.
The Ubiquiti EFG was the first with redundant power supplies. But other than that, their ECS line is a nice offering
Finally my home network can be updated.
Curious how this price compares to similar offerings from other companies
I've never seen anyone so excited to see included rackmount rails 😅
Wish they would make an 8 port 25gb agg switch as an update to the 8 port 10gb agg.
Waiting for the 24 port Enterprise Campus 10 GbE switches to drop below 2k
This is not a 100 gigabit switch. Its a 25 gigabit switch with 100 gigabit uplinks. When you say 100 gigabit switch it usually implies that clients are/can be connected with 100 gigabit.
However away from that kinda cool that to se the unifi ecosystem evolve.
That is not the first of theirs with redundant power. The Dream wall has Redundant power. Which are also 550w power modules. Just different type.
That’s not a 100Gig switch is a 25gig switch that has a few 100Gig uplinks. If I have a switch with 48 1Gig ports and 2 10Gig uplink ports it’s not a 10Gig switch.
Cpu runs the commands im sure theres a asic chip that does the packet moving like other brands
Jake on video ? On his turf ? Must be black friday
I guess next week Linus will be installing these in his house.
are the fans reversible? back to front airflow would be nice for back of rack installation
16:31 exactly. I had a brief work in a datacenter/networking and noticed the most cutting edge switches aren't as full or bulky as the slower ones. I think it's because the fastest switches use modern chip manufacturing nodes and integrate more parts. The switch above is the most spacious I've seen yet.
All of these features has been available in Cisco, Juniper etc for years…
perfect for home setups
In like 5 years when I can buy scratch and dent units of these for in the $1k range I will probably end up picking one of these up.
this isn't the first ubiquiti product with redundant power
wtf OSPF is realy handy why is that not on release on it
I'd love to see a server/sysadmin channel for more stuff like this
I would like to see an LTT video about the Secure Gateway Pro 4. It is an end-of-life product, and therefore very cheap on second-hand.
I believe it is possible to flash custom firmware on them.
I still use one on which I have installed Noctua fans. I hope that I can use it for a while.
If I change it out I want something rackmount.
Maybe I can reuse the case of the USG-PRO-4 and just put a UXG-Max inside of it?
finally something to buy on blackfirday
Basic features like power supply monitoring are a given for any decent business or enterprise switch.
Ubiquiti has its place, but there are far better options out there for switching. This feels like it’s released too soon.
Time for another Linus home network upgrade
If you didn’t wanna wait so long you could have just gone cisco
Christmas for the ubiquity fairy!
They make the same rails for Gigabyte servers. I have those upstairs. :D
Something I can't stand about Ubiquiti switches is that they have no local UI one can easily access with a browser when plugging a laptop into them. Or am I missing something?
Why does the description with Vessi say "waterproof"? I thought that LTT only says "water resistant" as a matter of policy?
vonder if it has VRF support
4K usd is cheap. 100k for the cisco version
Love me some networking videos
If you plug all those ports for sure it’s gonna overheat
Ubiquiti I heard are not good with longtime support
is the TV in the background moving? my monitor is tweaking out about it
So when is the break gonna be
Now of they gave us HA setups...
HI
As a Network Admin I am kinda concerned that the PSUs is not enough 550w seems quite low if this is 48-SFP28 port each of those SFP28 are likely going to pull somewhere between 5-10 Watts.
If fully loaded that is 240- 480 Watts not including the QSFP28 which is somewhere in the same realm of power draw.
This switch fully loaded is likely exceeding the power Budget of the 550Watt power supply so I assume that the Secondary Power supply is not fully redundant.
If possible load testing this device would be interesting to see.
They are sold with a single power supply by default so I don't believe this would be a problem. Also, even with 480W (48 x 10W sfp28) + 60W (15 * qsfp28) you still have 30W for the ICs. For sure you are tight, but that's absolute worst case scenario with every single link being fully saturated while also doing heavy calculation on the CPU.
Jake you look like you lost some weight. You look good. Congrats.
Can someone please rotate the bottom RGB cube on the back wall 60 degrees so they’re all the same orientation… please…
please review and the enterprise unifi firewall
can’t wait to install this one in my homelab (my max throughout ever recorded in real world usage was 1Gb/s)
I love the networking equipment videos.
Same! As an MSP I can enjoy LTT videos and learn something for my business at the same time.
That is truly a gorgeous switch it's beautiful I love nice industrial design and that is great industrial design
What about noise?
Sick!
Hell yeah this is some great infrastructure content. As a network engineer- loving the network love, and with no practical use for a campus agg switch, still want one
Jake definitely has a thing for fast ubicuties
Jake Networking Tips
This is awesome, I need to get some of these at my work!
Would be cool if you guys covered other networking brands than Ubiquity
No RGB tho?
Obligatory Jake does networking products fan comment. ❤
compare it to the crs520
honestly 550W for a swtich is already pretty crazy, like yeh sure it's a 100G switch so fair enough, but even still.
This switch would have been a contender for ToR switches that I put in a year ago. Brand new 25Gb switches without licenses? Easy sell to the boss. SONiC? Even better, a stable open-source switching OS compatible with many other switches. But can the fans be reversed?
I prefer the little LEDs being RGB than the whole Ethernet port. That is what they should have done in the first place. Makes the switch ecosystem look much more professional and not so "show-y".
Now if only Ubiquiti would build in a dedicated MGMT port, bring back the COM port, and allow the management traffic to route over alternative networks. Also an un-do function for when we mess up and lose connectivity to the switch.
Ubiquity need to add stacking and stack power to give us actual HA
I can't wait to use this in my home setup... with a few devices /s
It seems Ubiquiti is finally attempting to be a little more serious and bring things up to par with other network equipment providers. Theres been a whack tonne of new features being added to the console which should have been included since the start, but I'd rather late than never.
I don't know why I like Jake's reviews so much, I barely understand what the things are he reviews and I definitely don't need any of this stuff. I just love his energy.
Mellanox looks real similar inside on their 100Gb x36 switches.
At this point im sure Jake have a homelab - Lets see it!
This is sick as! More enterprise stuff, Ubiquiti.
would be cool if you can reverse the direction of the fans
Omg thse exist?
you know a switch is chonk when it comes with rails
i was so confused about the shoe. then the sponsor segue happened. clever clever.
Man why couldn't they have launched these earlier. I had to buy Mikrotik switches because I needed MLAG for our VM cluster. They're great, but they're the only switches we have that aren't Ubiquiti and it's annoying needing to go to a second place to configure things.
We need something smaller, like the half the ports and price
I like Ubiquiti because it lets me know who the biggest losers are
I remembern when I had 10 MBIt/s. And when we got 1 Gbit/s, fibre only.
MCLAG FTW !!
It's Ubiquiti... so, hard pass right off the bat.
Jake Server Tips when?