What you have captured here is quite unique when it comes to the last section from Vigerslev to Københavns Godsbanegård (ATC). At 26:22 both entry signals to Vigerslev shows "Kør igennem" (green and expect green). The exit signals from Vigerslev at 27:51 are harder to dertemine, but I believe that both shows "Kør igennem" as well. At 28:55 both entry signals to Københavns Godsbanegård are showing "Kør igennem". And at 29:16 both exit signals show "Kør" (green and expect stop). The reason might have been the Vectron-hauled Doubledecker train passed at 24:58 having problems and needing to return to Copenhagen. It's not something you see everyday, and hence it's awesome, that it have been catched on video #NerdAlert ;-)
The reason why the Vectron-hauled Double Decker train cannot continue is probably a signal error on the ERTMS signaling system. The train stops just before the change to ERTMS.
At se de ikke fjernede de gamle sidespor for huse osv... men faktisk bruger pladsen til noget brugbart som f.eks. et nyt depot/værksted for IC5, det varmer sgu, for det var et hårdt slag da de fjernede det gamle et år efter jeg havde haft den smukkeste tur i området
No it's not, it's waiting for the permit for the Vectron and borrowed IC1 IC wagons from DB to drive 200km/h on this stretch, and after that the delayed Talgo wagons which were originally supposed to be paired with the Vectrons for the Hamburg service, cause these will enter service before the Coradia Stream (IC5 in Denmark) enter service :) Also, I have to watch this video at 2x speed to handle it, seriously, can't believe we still only have 180km/h speeds here in Denmark, even though we're a small country, doesn't matter.
@@ncard00 The Netherlands here. Normal trains have a max of 140 over here. We have one high speed line where we have the French TGV's running at their 300 to Paris and a pimped up normal IC reaching 160 on that stretch. Hopefully soon we get the new IC NG able to do 200 on that short line between Amsterdam - Rotterdam (- Breda). But the rest of the country will remain around the 130, 140 limit. So don't worry, you do better in Denmark. You even got ERTMS on normal lines I see.
@@ncard00 180 is a lot higher than most other countries, and on most the Danish network it's not safe to go remotely that fast. On most of Fyn and Jylland the max line speed is 120 - 160 because there's too many curves. And Denmark is not big enough that we have a huge need for higher speeds. You can still get from one end of the country to the other in a couple hours.
@@thesteelrodent1796But the mainlines should be 250km/h, for international trains going through Denmark, and going between Denmark’s biggest cities, 1 hour between each city compared to 45 min makes a huge difference, but we should still have 200km/h IC5 trains for intercity trains with more stops, as well as use on regional routes, until the Vectron locos get new 200km/h bi level cars.
Good morning and congratulations for this video! 🙂 One technical question: outside urban areas, the electrification system turns from the (simple) 1x25kV to the 2x25kV with autotransformer? Thanx!
Interesting video. The bleu and red arrow block marker signs from France seem to have come an international standard. Although ETCS does not, as far as I know, work with blocks (track sections). The signal aspects are somewhat difficult to see. E.g. at 27.51 I can see an aspect on the signal for the track on the left, but the signal for your track (at this location left of the track) seems to be off. Here in the Netherlands a signal not showing an aspect (defect) would mean stop!
@@arfanvlk9351 I know that on high speed lines in Germany, where they also placed signals, just in case the cab signalling system fails, or for trains without cab signalling systems. These signals would go dark, when the cab signal system is working, and the train is fitted with it. The traindriver can ignore the signals. He / she only has to monitor and adhere to the cab signalling. So maybe this is also the case in Denmark.
As much as I understand only L3 can do virtual "moving" blocks. L2 can be used alongside legacy line signals and hence can use the same blocks as it. It is however possible to replace the legacy line signals completely (or build a new line without them in the first place) in which case the blue/yellow arrow markers are used...
There are trains capable of, but not allowed to. From next year tho, the german IC1 cars + vectron will be allowed to run at 200 - that's the plan anyway.
@@CabviewDenmark 3:38, 15:80, 16:09, 16:39, 17:57, 18:50 20:39 - 22:24 mange lyde 27:51 det siger tiker, tiker, tiker og når man først fokuserer på det hører man det hele tiden. Det er også med i andre togfilm
As someone who lives in Copenhagen and regularly use the train, I will never understand why the approach to København H is still so crap and wasn't redone when the Øresund bridge was started - it's basically been left completely unchanged since the turntable for the steam engines was ripped out in the 70s. Half the tracks in Kbh H always sit empty and yet all incoming trains always have to stop for red and wait for the switches to move, and that is just completely absurd with a system that's mostly automated. No train should ever have to wait to enter an empty track, it should be set long before they arrive so they can just go straight in without stopping. Banestyrelsen has made a proposal to rip out the current layout and separate the different lines, which will get rid of 2/3 of the unnecessary switches and give the station much higher capacity, and it turn remove the need to stop for a clear track, but the parliament, who always feel a need to interfere with matters they are in no way qualified to have an opinion on, refuse to give them the green light to do it. They'd much rather spend billions on providing 45,000 jobs to Poland so the Swedes can drive their car to Germany faster and easier
Yes, the tunnel to germany is stupid, or at least, it should have been the very last project to be built, and with 4 rail tracks and no car lanes. But you always gotta start with buke lanes, BRT lite projects, freight capacity, battery trains, night trains, and other cheap projects, which the right leaning politicians cannot refuse, cause they’re so cheap.
Seems you dont understand anything, offcourse the track is empty when you arrivw, else you coulnt aririve at all, its ame when police stop traffic, they cant see any trains, so all is good, even there are 20 km with trains in line.....
Fact: Highest point in Denmark is Møllehøj at 171 meters. Fun fact: Until the 19th century it was believed that the highest point in Denmark was Himmelbjerget, which translates to Heaven Mountain. It's 147 meters high.. Comparison fact: Highest point in the Netherlands is 322 meters, Estonia 318 meters, Latvia 312 meters, Lithuania 294 meters. Depending on definitions and criteria, Denmark could be seen as the flattest country in Europe.
😅Danmark,beautyful country.i was for 6 weeks on vacantion in NIVÅ campingplatz. in 1975. 👍👍👍
Very good video.
What you have captured here is quite unique when it comes to the last section from Vigerslev to Københavns Godsbanegård (ATC). At 26:22 both entry signals to Vigerslev shows "Kør igennem" (green and expect green). The exit signals from Vigerslev at 27:51 are harder to dertemine, but I believe that both shows "Kør igennem" as well. At 28:55 both entry signals to Københavns Godsbanegård are showing "Kør igennem". And at 29:16 both exit signals show "Kør" (green and expect stop).
The reason might have been the Vectron-hauled Doubledecker train passed at 24:58 having problems and needing to return to Copenhagen. It's not something you see everyday, and hence it's awesome, that it have been catched on video #NerdAlert ;-)
wow. Thanks for this infomation :)
The reason why the Vectron-hauled Double Decker train cannot continue is probably a signal error on the ERTMS signaling system. The train stops just before the change to ERTMS.
Enjoying video in Vancouver. Visited Copenhagen in 1990 while on a Cruise on Baltic Sea. Tivoli Gardens were beautiful.
Did you know that the Copenhagen Tivoli Gardens was the inspiration for Disneyland? Pretty cool :)
Very interesting video.
Do you know where I could find some Infos or videos on how ATC and the cabin signals work?
Greetings from Italy,
Lorenzo
At se de ikke fjernede de gamle sidespor for huse osv... men faktisk bruger pladsen til noget brugbart som f.eks. et nyt depot/værksted for IC5, det varmer sgu, for det var et hårdt slag da de fjernede det gamle et år efter jeg havde haft den smukkeste tur i området
Now it"s waiting for the "Coradia Stream " from Alstom (Salzgitter, German) to drive 200 km/h on this Stretch .
No it's not, it's waiting for the permit for the Vectron and borrowed IC1 IC wagons from DB to drive 200km/h on this stretch, and after that the delayed Talgo wagons which were originally supposed to be paired with the Vectrons for the Hamburg service, cause these will enter service before the Coradia Stream (IC5 in Denmark) enter service :) Also, I have to watch this video at 2x speed to handle it, seriously, can't believe we still only have 180km/h speeds here in Denmark, even though we're a small country, doesn't matter.
@@ncard00 The Netherlands here. Normal trains have a max of 140 over here. We have one high speed line where we have the French TGV's running at their 300 to Paris and a pimped up normal IC reaching 160 on that stretch. Hopefully soon we get the new IC NG able to do 200 on that short line between Amsterdam - Rotterdam (- Breda). But the rest of the country will remain around the 130, 140 limit. So don't worry, you do better in Denmark. You even got ERTMS on normal lines I see.
@@ncard00 180 is a lot higher than most other countries, and on most the Danish network it's not safe to go remotely that fast. On most of Fyn and Jylland the max line speed is 120 - 160 because there's too many curves. And Denmark is not big enough that we have a huge need for higher speeds. You can still get from one end of the country to the other in a couple hours.
@@thesteelrodent1796But the mainlines should be 250km/h, for international trains going through Denmark, and going between Denmark’s biggest cities, 1 hour between each city compared to 45 min makes a huge difference, but we should still have 200km/h IC5 trains for intercity trains with more stops, as well as use on regional routes, until the Vectron locos get new 200km/h bi level cars.
Bra video
2:27 1000Hz tone?
Good morning and congratulations for this video! 🙂
One technical question: outside urban areas, the electrification system turns from the (simple) 1x25kV to the 2x25kV with autotransformer? Thanx!
Dejligt du viser instrumenter og interiør
Jeps, mere af det. Måske også en lille forklaring på hvad man ser. Jeg tror jeg har gættet det, men det ville være rart at vide det med sikkerhed.
Interesting video. The bleu and red arrow block marker signs from France seem to have come an international standard. Although ETCS does not, as far as I know, work with blocks (track sections). The signal aspects are somewhat difficult to see. E.g. at 27.51 I can see an aspect on the signal for the track on the left, but the signal for your track (at this location left of the track) seems to be off. Here in the Netherlands a signal not showing an aspect (defect) would mean stop!
aren't drivers allowed to ignore a broken signal if by the TRDL? (rail traffic controller)
@@arfanvlk9351 I know that on high speed lines in Germany, where they also placed signals, just in case the cab signalling system fails, or for trains without cab signalling systems. These signals would go dark, when the cab signal system is working, and the train is fitted with it. The traindriver can ignore the signals. He / she only has to monitor and adhere to the cab signalling. So maybe this is also the case in Denmark.
As much as I understand only L3 can do virtual "moving" blocks. L2 can be used alongside legacy line signals and hence can use the same blocks as it. It is however possible to replace the legacy line signals completely (or build a new line without them in the first place) in which case the blue/yellow arrow markers are used...
@@Ztbmrc1 i meant NL
@@poulhnilica8987 Ok tnx for this answer.
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Jevn slitasje på strømavtageren
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Nice video! 👌
Are there any trains that reach the speed of 200 km/h on that section?
There are trains capable of, but not allowed to. From next year tho, the german IC1 cars + vectron will be allowed to run at 200 - that's the plan anyway.
@@tommylaq Thanks for the answer, fingers crossed for that to be the case ;)
was it a high-speed line we just drove thru?
Yes, but we dont have any highspeed trains yet.
What brand of DMI is that? Siemens?
What train-class is that?
DSB IC3
Hvad er det for en "stick-shaker" lyd man kan høre ?
Har du nogle tidspunkter i videoen, hvor man kan høre det?
@@CabviewDenmark 3:38, 15:80, 16:09, 16:39, 17:57, 18:50
20:39 - 22:24 mange lyde
27:51 det siger tiker, tiker, tiker og når man først fokuserer på det hører man det hele tiden. Det er også med i andre togfilm
As someone who lives in Copenhagen and regularly use the train, I will never understand why the approach to København H is still so crap and wasn't redone when the Øresund bridge was started - it's basically been left completely unchanged since the turntable for the steam engines was ripped out in the 70s. Half the tracks in Kbh H always sit empty and yet all incoming trains always have to stop for red and wait for the switches to move, and that is just completely absurd with a system that's mostly automated. No train should ever have to wait to enter an empty track, it should be set long before they arrive so they can just go straight in without stopping. Banestyrelsen has made a proposal to rip out the current layout and separate the different lines, which will get rid of 2/3 of the unnecessary switches and give the station much higher capacity, and it turn remove the need to stop for a clear track, but the parliament, who always feel a need to interfere with matters they are in no way qualified to have an opinion on, refuse to give them the green light to do it. They'd much rather spend billions on providing 45,000 jobs to Poland so the Swedes can drive their car to Germany faster and easier
Yes, the tunnel to germany is stupid, or at least, it should have been the very last project to be built, and with 4 rail tracks and no car lanes. But you always gotta start with buke lanes, BRT lite projects, freight capacity, battery trains, night trains, and other cheap projects, which the right leaning politicians cannot refuse, cause they’re so cheap.
Seems you dont understand anything, offcourse the track is empty when you arrivw, else you coulnt aririve at all, its ame when police stop traffic, they cant see any trains, so all is good, even there are 20 km with trains in line.....
Is this typical Danish landscape so flat ? LOL🥸
Yes
Fact: Highest point in Denmark is Møllehøj at 171 meters. Fun fact: Until the 19th century it was believed that the highest point in Denmark was Himmelbjerget, which translates to Heaven Mountain. It's 147 meters high.. Comparison fact: Highest point in the Netherlands is 322 meters, Estonia 318 meters, Latvia 312 meters, Lithuania 294 meters. Depending on definitions and criteria, Denmark could be seen as the flattest country in Europe.
@@davebowman6497 But if you include Greenland, which is part of the Kingdom of Denmark, the highest point is Gunnbjørn Field, 3694 m 🙂
sounds like theres a mcdonalds kitchen in the cockpit haha 😂