Nissan Ariya Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ส.ค. 2022
- Today, James and I have been driving the new 2022 Nissan Ariya. Nissan have been dragging their heels in the EV world despite being market leaders 10 years ago, by hanging on to Leaf and adding slightly bigger batteries and front and rear lifts, so it's nice to finally see something on the road. The Ariya is an SUV, loads of space, not too much power, and quite expensive, so lets see what it's actually like for us.
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Really excellent review! You seem to focus on what it's like to live with the car, instead of comparing specs and roadholding as most reviewers do. Also very good to get the perspective from both of you, I very much agree with Kate in disliking unnecessary big cars. I'm still eagerly waiting for something like a Fiesta EV.....
Florence reviews are always spot on.
I think you have your best reviewer on team now-Florence!
It's not cheap, but it actually is such a refined car that it's worth it. The mentioned 60000 bucks version really is as PACKED as it is car somebody really thought out well. It has dimmable interior roof lights (small thing, but I'd love that for our kids), heated steering wheel and heated and cooled seats in the front that all tie into the AC for automatic operation if desired (finally somebody thought of that), one of the best air filtration systems out there (Plasma Cluster system - way ahead of Teslas bioweapon bla bla bs), memory-steering wheel, -seats, -mirrors, -center console (!) plus a video rear view mirror so complete (!) recallability depending on what key you are using, an electric tray that comes out of the dash with a huge storage space underneath, heated and reclining rear seats, alcantara everwhere, really good Matrix lights, a huge 10" head up display, heated wind screen, double glased windows front and side for better sound insulation, it uses a meta material for sound dampening that is a fraction of the weight and size of usual damping mats, e4orce all wheel drive arguably is the best EV 4x4 system out there, not only providing superior grip and cornering but also actively balancing pitch and roll of the cabin for an even smoother ride, it does 0-60 in about 5.5 seconds, it's got a ten speaker premium sound system, an alarm system, a two hard drive operating system that can do firmware updates on the fly, so no need to stop, heck even the wiper fluid comes out of the wipers themselves...Pro Pilot 1.5 is great as well, super nice japanese accents like that ambient "lamp style" lighting...so many awesome little things that really add up...plus very good build quality...I mean...if you spend that kind of money...this is a car well spent on in my book. Also the 87kWh battery has an amazing charging curve.
Frunk: Yes, there is none, the AC takes up that space, but in return it has the most interior space of any EV in the 4.6m class. 1775 liters are a LOT for an EV of that length, even more than what the Enyaq has, and that's 5cm longer.
Last but not least, I'd like to question whether it's advisable to do with cars, what we did with so many other things that once were great and nowadays are almost impossible to get in decent quality. Yes, chinese stuff is cheap, but that's kind of the catch 22. It's not sustainable. People suffer building these things and - in this case - cars. The things and cars are so so at best, the environmental impact is huge and overall you still are paying a lot, your return on investment on the other hand is not so good. If you are willing to really look closely that is. So I'd like to question: Why shouldn't we pay 60000 bucks for a quality piece of kit that very obviously took a lot of people who love their job a lot of time and thinking to put together? A car that is indeed build in Japan, under great conditions. Something that is build with pride and with care for the environment and that is sold at a price that can sustain the manufacturer and the dealers in a way that they are content and happy to help of any issues arise? Why is this not money well spent?
Efficiency - not sure what was going on with the model you had, but those values are not normal. The Ariya is on sale in japan for almost a year now and power consumption figures are between 4,5 and 8 km/kWh for the model variant you were driving, so actually very very good.
Ah, and don't worry about the width - it's actually exactly the same as the Model 3 ;)
Great review Kate & James. Thank you. My main worry is the cost of most EVs.
Looking forward to the full Florence review, lots of sense! Those of us a bit older definitely prefer the higher seating, the days of climbing out of a roadster are long gone!
Great review as always!
Great review. Finally a Nissan with a proper CCS port and wireless apple carplay. Having been a old qashqai owner . Will be upgrading to this soon. It truly like a lounge on wheels with no centre tunnel
Thank you for an excellent review.
Great review. Thanks
There is a young lady who knows what she wants.
Great to hear Florence's opinions again, she really knows her stuff!🤗 I was amazed at how far back you seemed to be, James, in the rear seat, it looked cavernous.
We just had our old car written off so have gone electric much sooner than we hoped with a Hyundai Ioniq 38kW, 20 plate. We'd like to find out if Cleevelys could look after it for us. I believe you told me once that you do come down to Kent. Should I be asking you this or is it best if I find a number for the firm? No rush of course as it's had a least a mechanical check before it left Hilton garage up in Derby and it seems in great nick. Sorry if I'm out of order here, quite excited😁😂👍
Nice review, nice to hear someone share my dislike of unnecessaryily large cars. Also good to hear that you're cutting down on expensive cars too. I bought an Ioniq 5 at Xmas and we handed it back 5 months later because although a great bit of tech it was a massive boat that cost £42k, which is mental
Some of us need larger cars. Its better to go taller than sttttrreetch out longer👍
I'm 6'3". The cabin design is not relevant to the exterior size.
Didn't you lose an awful lot of money, trading in a brand new car after 5 months?
@@CreRay we had a few issues with it, which were not addressed at all by Hyundia. The dealer agreed to give us a full refund after 5 months.
Nice review you guys ....
Cool review! Thx
Really value the Florence input 👌 👏
Now I want to go and drive one (I have chronic pain and need a really comfy ride, and easy access). Love that opening sunroof
If ride comfort in an SUV style car is your priority, then the Skoda Enyaq is meant to be astonishingly comfortable - depending on spec, it would be usefully less expensive than the Ariya too... 👍
So refreshing to find a positive review of a Nissan, be it an electric or ICE engined. I have always owned Nissans and it is never a fashionable make.If I had that sort of cash I would join the electric car club and get an Ariya.
Well done 👏
Nissan is great , had one since the Nissan bluebird and the service is always good at dealers
Lovely new presenter keep up great work Florence.👍👍👍😎😎😎🐶🐶🐶
We went to the launch of the Megane (on the same platform) and it has the same idiotic charge port position - we've ordered an MG4 as well and it will be really interesting to see what the Mulan version will go like... nice review (as usual).
How are James and Kate Looking forward to seeing your review on the MG4
Looking forward to the MG4 review 🤓
I am in Canada in an area where we have huge snow storms, deep snow at times, and very cold weather for about 6 months of the year. There are days where the streets are not cleared very quickly by the city workers. I use a 4WD SUV for winter driving. I presently have the 2022 Pathfinder Platinum 4WD with the Off Road Option and fully equipped.
I ordered the new Ariya Platinum AWD e-4FORCE/Performance with the extended battery range fully equipped. I am buying this one to use as a second vehicle for both winter and summer driving. During the cold weather and on snow covered ground EVs normally lose about 20% to 30% of their range. This is a big reason why I ordered the this version of Ariya. I also like the conveniences of a high end model. In Canada electricity is not very expensive. With driving about 35 miles per day I calculated I may spend about $25 per month maximum for electricity to run the Ariya. My Pathfinder is costing me about $400 per month for gasoline. The Pathfinder needs oil changes every 5000 miles, and also other types of expensive maintenance from time to time. The operational cost of the Ariya will be a lot less for me. I want to keep the Pathfinder for when I have to do long trips outside of the city, or to pull a trailer, and if I have to transport a lot of items.
Love the input from Florence, as a Honda E driver this seems cheap for size and spec .
Same. We have a 4 year old Jag IPace, so thought the prices were very reasonable
Great review as always very real! Question-how does it compare to the ix3? Sounds like bang on but cheaper?
I'm impressed by the Enyaq as used to be more than a Model 3 and now can get used one for £39k. If was having an MG4 I'd have the £26k one only.
SUV/CUVs also (usually) offer higher ground clearance which is very important in my country (Iceland).
It would be interesting to hear a review of the Renault Meganne EV built on the same platform.
Great review as always 👍 I love the end with the mention of ordering the MG4, as I've done just that too. I've chosen the SE LR version via Chorley, which spec MG4 will you be getting??
We have the 64kWh Trophy, until the 4x4 hits next year 😃
@@Jamesandkate great choice! It would be nice to keep us posted on that once yours arrives. I went with the hope the SE long range may get delivered quicker as my car goes later this week lol
Great review. Kate and James input was not to bad ether. Any Idea when your getting the MG4? Put my deposit down at with Miles group last week.
Hi from Somerset 🇬🇧
Thanks for another great team review, Florence has a ’shopping age’ of what...18? 😂 ...Good to know how dynamically good the car is, ride, handling, comfort, noise etc...but leaving aside the price which is outrageous they really have missed an opportunity on the charging speed. Hyundai and Kia have set the benchmark for charging speed, along with Tesla of course. The Ariya is on the same platform as the Renault Megane e-tech which also has a quoted charging rate of 130 kW...would like to know more about your experience of only 80kW with the car. Considering the money they are asking for this car they should be offering 150 kW or above. ...unless of course the car can maintain a high charging speed for longer.
Does the new Ariya have one pedal drive, is that true they got rid of that feature???
It’s great to hear more emphasis put on comfort and quiet, I get so fed up with lots of cars these days essentially on our rubbish roads with all the,pot holes.
I think it’s a bit too big for me as expensive. I did sit in one at the Fully charged show and it was comfortable. I have taken a liking to the new Renault Megane which is smaller but I think shares the same platform. Also like the look of the MG4 which is may well be the one most suited for my needs so I look forward to hearing what you have to say about that
Looks like an excellent future used BEV just like the leaf lol
With regards to acceleration I would expect response to improve as software updates come out Over time ( like many other manufacturers these days they get new owners to do the user testing as they don’t have the time or resources to do it themselves lol)
The review of sippy cup compatibility is not trivial! This is stuff parents need to know, good eye Florence!
Definitely looks better in the flesh than in videos. No idea why you say SUVs make you feel great because you’re sat high. I feel like a tool when I sit high. It doesn’t help that I’m 6 foot 5 I guess. But even when I test drove the Model Y it was like… I’m literally feeling like I’m sat on top of my model 3 driving this thing. I’d like to test this Nissan but it doesn’t look much like a drivers car to me
Vs Enyaq? Would really like to see in the boot.
" I wouldn't buy it because of its size" The Ariya is actually shorter in length (same width) than the Model 3 but 8" higher at roof level , shows how the perspective of an SUV alters things. Personally having sat in one it's a massive leap forward in build and design for Nissan. I've seen worse efficiency results for the higher sized EV's .
liked the review. i have a leaf 30, i wont be getting an ariya, its just too expensave. nissan needs to inovate imho. is the battery finally cooled? dose the 360 camera do anything other then for reverse?
Yes, all trims have liquid cooling for the battery. It’s on the Nissan website.
Florence is the star 🌟 ... Love her comments 🤣
Why aren't the charge ports on the front like my 2018 and 2011 Leaf? Convenient for parking at public ports and for us at home: Our wall charger is on the right so if we get an Ariya we have to pull the cable around the other side. Why spoil a good thing?
James, I think that your perceived value of the Ariya is correct, for many of us this seems too expensive, but the Ariya has no trouble finding buyers and they even find themselves closing order books in several markets, so in terms of running a business, Nissan nailed the price and maybe it's not even high enough. The model Y and Model 3 are also way overpriced but they can't build them fast enough, so I think that the price should be considered within that context.
That’s definitely not the case here, they’re struggling to find orders according to the dealers.
@@Jamesandkate in the US you can't order one, we have around 7,000 units of intial production Pre-ordered. I think the issue is most people are waiting for the 87KW usable pack. The UK prices are also a ton higher than the US in regards to pricing. for the Long range pack, USD long range venture + is $45,995 for 304 miles of EPA range. Convert that to euros or pounds and you are almost the same $$$ amount in euros and only $38,123 pounds. If you want similar kit to the UK spec Ariya and you are $48,995 or $40,604. Keep in mind that is for FWD models. The only AWD model available to the US is the Platinum Performance at $58,995. The non performance AWD comes at a later date in the states.
Range sounds disappointing. But great road test. Thank u 🙏
Quiet and soft. $45k - 60£ UK is pricey for smaller battery.
Won't be too long before Florence is doing these review on her own!
Sorry James and Kate but Florence stole the show in this one 😊 Great video though
When Flory is 17 she’ll be top vehicle reviewer.
I have subscribed and watch alot of your blogs and notice you service EVs I have a problem with my on board charger on my model S looked at lots of comments about the Tesla on board chargers and most state 98% of the time it's the 50 amp fuses that blow is this something you can do?
Try contacting him thru cleverly ev services
Hi. Yes we can repair most of these issues. Google CleevelyEV and drop us an email 👍🏻
This is a "compact" SUV in 'UMERICA.... so it's interesting to hear British observations on it. I would prefer something larger (see Kia Telluride) but the Ariya seems to fit the bill and cost less than a new Model Y.
Can the charge percentage be set like a tesla or doe it keep charging to 100%.
Yes
Any battery cooling?
Liquid thermally managed
You point on the frunk is more than offset by the massive room in the back of the Ariya.
Excatly...
Well it’s not offset is it, it’s missing. It would be in addition to.
@@Jamesandkate No it is not missing, it was never meant to be there.
The overall storage space is much larger in the Ariya.
What about my other point about the size comparison with the model 3.
You keep saying how big it is, but it is smaller than the model 3?
I saw the Ariya at the local dealership and it looked big to me too, but when I checked the length and width it was ok.
I think its height and room inside confused me too.
@@Jamesandkate you cant have your cake and eat it too. The packaging of the car focuses on large interior room and short overhang. Then you have cars like Model 3 that are longer but have less legroom and less open cabin at the front but have a frunk.
I really like it too but I agree - over £40k is too much. My mid spec Ioniq 5 with a couple of options and the bigger battery cost less than the base version of this and that makes the Hyundai far better value.
You can't judge value unless you've owned for 5 years. I'm seeing lots of complaints from Ioniq 5 owners and the Korean EV's don't have a great record in terms of batteries
@@Urbanbenelux there are a few minor issues with a few units, that I've seen. Older units have 12v battery issues, for example. Some units with the top spec have peeling around the window trim.
I've had neither issue and neither issue would prevent me from repeating the above: the technology and packaging of the Hyundai are both far superior and it costs less.
Did near Lancaster to Braintree, Essex over the weekend. One stop. Barely scratched 10minutes and I was on my way.
That level of efficiency, range and charging speed are worth their weight in gold,... And cost less than the base Ariya. It's over priced.
Today my Nissan Leaf has to go to Nissan heaven 2013 MK1 Purchased from Nissan Dealership, full service history and all repairs completed at Nissan and today at only 48k, yes 48k! miles the error code of inverter and motor was found with an estimated repair bill of £9800 pounds. Nissans response was car is over 8 years old so we cant help.
Many saying too expensive but at between £44k-£58k it’s comparable with EV6 £44k-£56k !
My goodnees, look at the eye roll on young miss @ 3:35. Me thinks someone has an elevated view of themselves...
You're right James, it's not that efficient. I did 301 miles in my "Classic" 28 kWh Ioniq at mostly motorway speeds with 2 other passengers and the air con on all the way. It returned 5.2 m/kWh. I struggled to get 3.5-4.0 m/kWh in my 30 kWh Nissan LEAF even in town. At the price, the Ariya is not competitive, which is a shame really because the build quality of Nissans is brilliant.
The Ioniq is efficient, but I guess you mean 301 km and not miles. I had one for quite some time and 300 miles is not possible in that car.
There’s not much available in the Fiesta/ Polo size EV hatchback arena. I would like an EV that size with 2 doors, hatch and frunk.
Stuff the car - it's WAY too expensive and 'un-necessarily big' anyways - your Florence is absolutely adorable...!! 💖
New channel name - James & Kate & Florence
Ooooo! First! This is the car I have loved since I saw it. My Leaf is still amazing though haha.
I mean acceleration wise it is quicker to 60 than my 30kWh BUT does it have the same oomph from the get go or is it just because you've been used to faster cars?
I've driven one and it feels much smoother than other EVs I've driven. Tesla model 3, leaf 40 and 60kw, EV6 etc. The acceleration feels very stepped low down you get gradual power and a big surge at 27mph. Less head snapping fast and made to be smooth
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"It looks like Boba Fett's helmet"
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Nice video guys. Personally I'd hope to think I'd never own another Nissan again after the shambolic way Nissan UK and (most) of their dealer network dealt with my vehicle. Lovely vehicle this but if it was my money I'd not take a chance with this dreadful company. Cheers
Kate said it was very wide compared to the Model 3?
Ariya = 1850mm
Model 3 = 1849
Is it an optical illusion?
Ariya length = 4595 mm
Model 3 length = 4694 mm
The model three is bigger overall, apart from the height./
It must feel bigger than it is???
The 4wd eforce 0 - 60 = 5.7
Can you clarify the size thing???
Model 3 has excellent visibility and it does seem smaller when driving. Hyundai Ioniq 5, Kia EV6, Genesis GV60 are all 50mm wider than Model 3. I like them all but also struggle to get out the car in normal spaces with my Leaf Mk 1!
@@carlarrowsmith Yes! Parking spaces are getting narrower.
When I had a Model S, I had to use the auto park thingy to park it in tight spaces.
The Arya has this self parking function & the 360 degree overview.
The Leaf is bigger on the inside than outside!!😄😄😄 I had one years ago - Loved it!!
You mention that it's not very fast, with 0-100km/h in 7.5s, but with the performance edition being a relatively small upcharge of only 5k (here in the US, and only supposedly...not out yet), the dual motor, AWD variant is likely to be a lot faster at 4.5s, and it might be the cheapest electric vehicle in the Ariya's size class that also has AWD. There are cheaper base trims from other brands, but I've not seen many that are still competitively priced once you pile on the packages. Sadly, Europe is getting all of the EVs, while the US is still most just Teslas and Chevy Bolts for now, and a Chevy Bolt is not a recommended car with the number of manufacturing faults that there have been
They are not building the petformance which is about 5 sec, so thr e-4ORCE is abiut 5.8 seconds. So nope not fast
@@thomaskorndal4715 the US AWD only comes in Platinum performance for 0-60 under 5s. No "standard" AWD drivetrain till after the full launch of vehicle in the states
Great review, interesting that it feels bigger than the the model 3. It is 10cm shorter and the same width, does the higher seating position make it feel so much bigger?
It does, and inside feels bigger too. Much more rear leg room.
Probably partly achieved by not having a frunk and instead pushing elements as far forward into the front as possible.
Would stick with the MG
Every car really needs bling bling noises when they start up. They don’t last long enough. More bling bling noises are needed.
Said no one. Ever.
Which exact version is this (160 KW, 180 KW)? Can you tell me, please?
160kW. Advance.
@@Jamesandkate many thanks!
It’s just so small on the inside… we test drove one and it was almost surprisingly small for how hoss it is on the outside.
WOW , Florence from pushchair to presenter, 2019 to date... Can't forget our meeting at Bosworth with the ZS EV press car, still have my 2019 ZS but looking around. Ariya vs facelift Nero, EV6 or Enyac? Choice never used to be a problem ...😎😎 And James , some of us need easier access 👨🦽
I think you are right to have ordered MG4 as you willl be getting the right car at the right price.
It looks epic, wont be getting one though as RCI Finance must be the worst finance house in the universe to deal with, they don’t even communicate internally let alone with customers. I asked for confirmation of our Zoe annual mileage in 2021, no reply, wrote . . to them, they sent back forms to start off a complaint ! I only want to know the annual mileage….still didn’t get it and gave up in the end. When it was returned their agents, Mannheim demanded a granny charger as well even though it didn’t come with one then they refused to take it away unless it was over 90% charged, just a nightmare so nope no more Renaults for us, my pacemaker wouldn’t take it !
Looks like Nissan maybe going to survive , but a bit expensive
*You got LIKE from me for your video, but not to Nissan*
*Nissan customer service is very poor*
Apparently no e-pedal / one pedal driving.. Have nissan made a retrograde step here. I believe it should be an option.
They all have ePedal
@@Jamesandkate yes, but does it come to a complete stop without pressing the brake pedal.
Does anyone know if I ordered one today would I get it before 2024?
In the UK you get it this year apparently
@@Jamesandkate Awesome, thank you. I'm going to have a chat to the nice people at my local Nissan dealer.
@@Jamesandkate I ordered one at the weekend. The dealer said they are backordered and said end of January next year as a starting date. Looking forward to my new 23 or 73 plate motor. :-)
Still waiting, I've now been told July is reasonable but the latest guesstimate is 9-12 months.
Just looking at the UK prices it seems like the top spec Ariya and top spec Ioniq 5 both come at 56k. Why is that too expensive, especially considering the Model Y is at 68k? Appears the Ariya is pretty reasonably priced considering the competition.
The top spec qashqai is £8k less than the lowest spec ariya.....expensive? Yes they are too expensive...
@@SNORKYMEDIA The Ariya is larger, more powerful, more premium (base spec is already very well equipped) and has lower running costs. It should be substantially more expensive than a Qashqai...
We can afford one, but most people can’t realistically get anywhere near it. EVs are, apart from MG, stupidly over priced imo. Manufacturers are taking the p!55. If you knew the profit margins on some you’d be gobsmacked 😶
All cars should be reviewed by Florence.
How is 3.7miles p/km “bad” efficiency?
Because we were gentle with it. My other EV at this time of year is running 4.5 easily
I can get 4.5 easy out of the Tesla Model 3 without trying driving 70 on the motorway. I’ve had 4 in winter too on a longer trip. So 3.7 is not great but excusable for the size I guess. Though the size is inexcusably unnecessarily big 🤣
I'm averaging over 4.5 miles per KWh in mixed driving on our Ioniq 5 right now. Which has really surprised me because early reports (mainly filmed in the winter, I think) really slated its efficiency.
Vs. that, the Ariya does seem a touch thirsty.
@@Jamesandkate …but it’s still not “bad” compared to
@@MCSMIK Model Y?
Sunglasses while doing a piece to camera not a good idea if just some B-Roll for the video ok. After what Nissan did to Carlos not sure I'd buy a Nissan myself but that's me.
I'm not a fan of SUVs and to be honest your review confirmed what I already thought about the Ariya, it's a lovely car but very overpriced.
And there you have it… Florence still prefers the Tesla. Kids know best!
I can't see why I'd buy this to replace either our Ioniq or older MS. Plus it looks awful IMO. Where's a modern Leaf?!
Selling the Tesla for an MG. That's a head in the hands moment for me, something you'll undoubtably regret. An appreciating asset for a depreciating one.
Possibly, but I’ve covered 35k in an MG and it’s been more reliable and more efficient. Sure, it’s not as fast, but it will do exactly what our 3 does for 20k less. Also, the MGs are holding well, really well.
Great vehicle… way too expensive. More expensive than Model Y in NZ.
It was all going great until you mentioned the price 😱..
I really want Nissan to make a new re-designed Leaf, rather than this monster. They could go back to the original concept of an innovative, affordable medium-sized car, rather than SUV. Take the battery from this, scale it down a bit, and then re-issue the Leaf with an improved range and no meaningful battery degradation.
The lack of a ‘froot’ is indicative of a badly designed front end. To have a space under the bonnet that is too large for the technical requirements is just a waste of space. Is the length of the bonnet still required to represent the male appendage? No, certainly not! For any length of car a shorter bonnet means more internal space and boot!
so the cheapest Ariya is £8K more than the most expensive Qashqai - who do they think will buy this? £45K is ridiculous
Please note the laws on children sitting in a booster/child seat. Where they should be seated
“If a child restraint is not available, children under 3 years must travel in the rear, but may be unrestrained. Children 3 years and over, up to 135cm tall must sit in the rear and use an adult seat belt. Children aged 12 years or more, or over 135cm tall, may travel the front, but must wear the seat belt.”
She had an Isofix seat in the front with a restraint, she was perfectly legal 👍🏻
@@Jamesandkate good, but still illegal btw, unless the rear is full or unusable because of cargo etc.
Why on earth do you want something faster?
The quality of the Tesla interior is JUNK. It embarrassing hearing the door clank as you shut it. Doors are thin. No thanks
Children is in the rear, crazy ZZZZZZZZOMBIESZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
Too expensive, terrible charge port position (ask Audi Etron drivers), absolutely no excuse these days why don’t have a fronk and large under under floor storage. Range is terrible v id4/ Model Y.
The 87 kWh will probably have similar or longer range than both the cars you mentioned. Look at Teslabjorn test with the Ariya...
This car would have been fine back in 2018, sadly the EV world has marched on.