Most beings can't walk right up to a Hutt, cut down their bodyguards, and survive long enough to hunt them down. Maul was uniquely capable of quickly quashing the conflict. Plus Jabba probably let him hunt down and kill most of the Hutt family heads so he could muscle in and rule Hutt Space pretty much unopposed.
I've played the Knights of the Old Republic games, and in them people hated the Jedi because their conflicts devastated the galaxy. It's interesting to see though that the galaxy was just as capable of getting wrecked without them.
Here, here! It was actually fallen Jedi that played their part in devastating the galaxy. For the most part, at least. Jedi have blood on their hands as well. They`re ungrateful, I guess they would rather the Sith rule us all! Or some other equally evil empire...
@@90skidcultist ikr, Honestly, I would rather live under the rule of the Jedi than most other groups. But then again Jedi only take charge of Goverements when they have to, but a Jedi Leader at least isn't prone to things like bribery or currruption.
It also shows what a bunch of hypocrites the Jedi truly were. They allowed the Republic to go bat shit crazy and carry out acts of genocide for a 1,00 years. After hearing that, if I WERE Force Sensitive , I'd give serious consideration to the Sith order.
@@polsatinter5400 theres no 1 power in control with that. Free trade and multiple business competition to stimulate, hopefully, involved economies are staples in a true working Capitalist system
I kinda like that there's an almost Warhammer 40k period in the Republic's past and that's why humans are so prevalent in Star Wars. They even basically shout "For the Emperor!" and fly around in Cathedral Ships exterminating billions of aliens on the premise that they're "inferior"
The dark plot to conquer the Republic. Yeah so apparently Darth Sidious wasn’t dark he was just the Senate and the Sith were just mad the Jedi stole 50 credits from them
Now I can't get the image out of my head of the Sith, waging a secret campaign over thousands of years, to get back at the Jedi for... stealing 50 credits from Darth Bane. And that is totally in character for the Sith.
Fun fact: in this era in the franchise... The secret weapon against conquering villainous giant gangster/soldier space Space slugs... A big canister of table salt...
I made a plot for a live action series where an engineer aboard a Cathedral Ship covertly defects and tries to prevent a small civilization of peaceful yet defiant aliens from getting wiped out in an inevitable crusade. Wanted the story to end in tragedy where a traitor amongst insurrectionist destroys all the progress the protagonists have made in the series and they all get Rogue One'd (if you know what I mean) 💀
Would be boring it’s like government vs mafia so the new republic invaded huttterritorys and the hutts Honigbrot hiding and making cash or a Guerilla campaign of mercenaries. Modern hutts don’t fight they obese rich slugs who sit on their thrones and bribe everyone
In New Canon the Hutts all but collapsed because the major slave species that worshipped them as gods rebelled after Leia strangled jabba and the recordings got around. In Legends the Hutts DID fight against the Galactic Alliance (the NR's successor state) as a MAJOR part of the Corellian Confederation. Since they heavily re-armed after the Vong war reminded them that not every threat can be bought off.
the Hutts make no sense. the galaxy is populated by magic warriors, and species who are neatly powerful in either body, mind or technology. and the hutts have nothing. how would they have every conquered anyone?
" They deemed all non-humans lesser. " Cut to them having an Emperor clad in golden armor wielding a flaming sword and shooting mind bullets that they can just claim was the Force.
I’d like to see the huts demonstrate why the Star Wars universe fears them. They seem like they can’t do anything. Princess Leah killed one with a chain. Seems like anyone in Jabba’s palace could have aced him and taken over.
That was 15,000 years after they had their entire empire devastated, Jabba was generations removed from their ancient warriors, the old Hutt were fearsome, Jabba and his Hutt relatives were just lazy rich criminals. The old Hutt, clad in metal from tail to head were organic tanks, easy to look at the big slug bois as just blobs but that was likely mostly muscle back then, when they actually fought themselves rather than using money and other people to solve their issues.
Why all of this Pius Dea stuff sounds like Warhammer 40K? Xenophobic crusades and cathedral ships burning the galaxy in the name of a pseudo deity screams 40K to me.
Tzeentch was on vacation and wanted to test out some of his "many plans" on some unsuspecting fools before trying his luck against the imperium of man. think of it as a controlled experiment on an analogue space fairing galaxy, he sets up similar conditions then tests out weaknesses and strikes with a heresy. that's the best canon I can think of for this crossover episode. prolly why the jedi were like "hold up wait a minute, something aint right. we are staying out of this." they sensed something new and strange... the taint of chaos. or the writer for a WH40K book got let go mid write and retooled it and sold it to george lucas who was like "more stuff to riff on? write that sh*t down"
Going by how a lot of Star Wars history is based off of Rome and Greece, I'd say it was more based off of the Punic Wars between the Roman Republic and the Carthaginian Republic.
@@ladygrey7425 The Punic Wars would be more like the Sith Wars with its devastation, the Tionese Wars were kinda like the wars against the Gauls of Northern Italy, and the Alsakani Wars are like the perpetual rebellions of the Samnites against the Roman Republic. And Palpatine in the prequels is probably modeled off Augustus, except, you know....evil.
@@akumaking1 it makes somewhat sense because the Killiks mentioned whenever she escaped it was because of wanes of balance and extreme levels of negative energy from chaos. And wars between the Ones and her lasted centuries
After her mother Tilotny died and formed her, (Mourning) Abeloth took most of her mother's traits, personality, and ambitions. For millennia she would be "The Goddess" of many races. Not every major conflict or dark time was because of her escaping her prison planet in The Maw though the most terrible one's could be attributed to her influence...
Funny how I was thinking this very thing because this would have been the exact kinda shit she'd cause. Tho it was mentioned that she'd escaped in the past I'd say this very well could have been one of those times
"The Goddess" huh Is it just me or does the entire Pius Dea thing sound an awful lot like something that was probably connected to the local cosmic horror known as Abeloth introduced much latter in old legends?
Republic: nearly was wiped out multiple times and was turned into an empire. Hutt empire: *isn’t bothered with anything and would still continue long after time is destroyed.*
I feared the Hutts because I was 10 years old and a Giant slug had my first girlfriend in chains eating frogs and watching people eaten for fun. It was the 80’s, Jason and the hockey mask still scared people.
The Republic had many crazy times long before the Sith ever became a thing. The transformation of the Hutt culture is an intriguing topic. I do wonder though, in a conventional war who would win between the Galactic Empire and the Hutt Cartel. Also with the similarities with IoM, the Pius Dea did manage to do something the IoM couldn't, have a half-decent economy.
Galactic Empire. If Maul subdued not only the Hutts but all the big crimelords e.g. Pykes and Black Sun, I doubt Palpatine would fail to do the same. He'd vaporise the Hutts before letting them stop the Empire. The Hutts are strong but the Galactic Empire is the Galactic Empire. Palpatine would just send Vader to go after the Hutt leaders and step in if he failed to kill them all. Even if they 'went to ground' and tried to fight a guerrilla war, rebel style, the Hutt Cartels wouldn't be able to keep control over most of their major citadels and strongholds. It'd be a bloody battle for Imperial forces as the Stormtrooper Corps would be forced into repeated urban warfare and ambushes, with the fights not always going their way. But once the Imperials bring in their real firepower it's all over. Walkers, heavy artillery units, TIE Fighters, repulsorlift tanks, troop transports, juggernauts, Star Destroyers, cruisers, frigates etc. They are too numerous. The Empire could burp a hundred million troopers in the the general direction of the Hutts and still have plenty more where they came from. The reality is that it will probably degenerate into a protracted guerrilla war with several Hutts disappearing and being extremely hard to find, operating from hidden bases, through many thousands of agents and hired thugs, but the thing is, Palpatine would probably find them eventually. He'd first send the Inquisitors and Imperial Commandos after them and if they weren't enough to decisively end the problem, copious Stormtrooper deployments and Imperial blockades would finish the job. But just as likely Palpatine and Vader could just go on a Hutt Hunt and kill them one by one. Imperial Intelligence and the machinations of the Sith Lords themselves - unbeknownst to most Imperials, being the real leadership of the Empire - would between them trap the Hutts in separate pockets around the galaxy. Nar Shadda and Nal Hutta wouldn't last long as the Empire would obviously deploy massive forces against them. There could even be a situation where Hutts convene on either of those worlds to plan their next move and Vader shows up with the 501st while the Imperial Navy surround the planet. Hutt naval forces cannot stand up to the Imperial Navy and trade equal blows because the Imperial Navy is far larger and stronger. The Hutts will have some wins in space but still. Imperial orbital and aerial superiority is almost a given. I can imagine many TIE fighters being lost fighting skilled mercenaries and bounty hunters, but the problem for the Hutts is that the Empire has so many - and these Imperials are more well-trained than rebel propaganda implies - that they can't really stop them long-term. If the war bogged down into a long, attrition based conflict, what would the goals of either side be? At what point does the Empire concede defeat or at what point do the Hutts give in? The Galactic Empire under Palpatine _will not_ be surrendering under any circumstances to the Hutt Cartel. Palpatine would never tolerate that and let's just remember how powerful the Empire is. Obviously the rebels started off small, but they won against the Empire, in spite of humble beginnings. Yet popular public support for the Hutts? No, that won't happen. If anything it'd split opinion beyond the borders of the Empire and Palpatine might just bribe neighbours and vassals of the Hutts to rebel themselves. Palpatine tolerated the Hutts because they were a necessary convenience while he was consolidating power during the Imperial Expansion Era. He didn't necessarily have any reason to get into a fight with them when he pragmatically could deal with that bridge when he came to it, in theory. In the case of Vader, of course he had no love for the Hutts. However, the Hutts would grow to fear Vader in a war scenario - Palpatine would use Vader as a weapon to destroy the Hutts. The idea of Palpatine himself pulling a Maul moment and going in solo after the Hutts for a bit of sport, is also interesting. Palpatine pragmatically realised the value in keeping an area of space in the vast Outer Rim Territories, under Hutt Cartel control, while the Empire clearly held sway. Just look at the Imperial forces and how they operate on Tatooine, Jabba the Hutt's own haunt. The fact here is that Jabba would not have his agents/thugs fire on the Imperial Stormtroopers. Jabba knew better. I remember hearing about and seeing stuff on TH-cam about a comic book series for Darth Vader, and in this, he basically straight up walked into Jabba's Palace, force choked Jabba and threatened him with a lightsaber. Vader didn't give the slightest fuck about the Hutts. Again, if the rag-tag and somewhat spent Maul managed to not only smash the rival criminal groups but to hammer them under the banner of Crimson Dawn, then I think Palpatine and Vader would obliterate the Hutts. Imperial losses will be high but ironically, the longer the war continues, the more hostile towards Hutts the Galactic Imperial citizenry/subjects shall become. Palpatine wouldn't need to say much to convince the Empire of how bad the Hutts were and he'd gain a lot of support in the process of destroying the Hutts. Galactic Empire shall crush them. 25,000 ISDs and a smallish number of Star Dreadnoughts (dozens perhaps) would make the entire prospect of facing the Imperial Navy in it's proper force, a really bad idea for the Hutts. Hit and run, guerrilla tactics and urban warfare on dozens of worlds, would make it half viable for the Hutts to win some kind of concessions, but most likely Palpatine would have won anyway. Especially if the DSI/DSII (Death Stars) are completed. Palpatine would destroy them. He'd end up victorious eventually. If Maul and the Death Watch can, Sidious, Vader and the Imperial military, should be able to win out. I'd imagine Palpatine would love to kill Hutts with a lightsaber or force lightning. Vader would find and kill a lot of them, especially if the Inquisitors failed to deal with the problem. Clone Commando losses might also be high, but they will have all been aware they were hitting back harder. Even if the war descends into the same old mess of a situation it has been for so long, Palpatine shall still win. It'd be very destructive though. Millions could die on all sides.
Is there a book that actually refers to the IoM economy? Poverty runs rampant but I don't remember economy be an important subject in what I've read But the Imperium has outlasted the Pius Dea by a good 9K+ years so who needs good economy anyway
@@danielpichardo7749 One thing you HAVE to understand about the Imperium of Man is that it is not a grandiose empire of the traditional sense. Rather, it is a collection of independent systems unified under one banner and religion, with each systems pretty much left to govern themselves however they see fit. The reason for this form of governance? The warp. It is an extremely temperamental form of interstellar travel and communication. For the most part, ships can reasonably reach their destinations on a reliable timetable....plus minus a couple of weeks or months. But sometimes you can turn up at your destination *before* you departed from your point of origin. And this is in addition to the fact that all laws of physics and time can be thrown out the window, literally. 1 week in the warp can range from anywhere between 1 week in real space, 1 minute in real space, or even 1 century. So yeah, good luck trying to keep a standardized economy and trade and regular communication under those circumstances, much less a unified government. The administratum might seem to be a bunch of incompetent cocks, but they're doing the best they can to keep the remains of humanity afloat in a universe where literally everything else can kill you in the most gruesome way imaginable in less than a blink of an eye. Maybe even less. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the warp is also where the Chaos gods set up shop as well didn't I?
Some insurrectionist Hutts attacked Darth Vader's Super Star Destroyer. 1 single Imperial ship wiped out most of the Hutt council bar Jabba. The empire let the Hutts exist because they did a better job at subjugation Hutt space than the Empire could have done.
Hutts, back in the ancient times or when there pissed are pretty much organic tanks. And the Pius Dea era has been an era that’s interested me for some time, there just not a whole lot about it. So thanks for this content.
Jabba and many other rich huts are like how obese humans are to us. It would be like judging our species' physical capabilities just by looking at obese people. Fit huts were slugs of pure muscle and were essentially organic tanks with extreme durability.
Why did the Jedi have to wait a thousand years to do something? Still, I must say that I'm impressed that they didn't destroy themselves after such a long time without a chaperone...
8:28 Gondorians fighting Dinosaurs in the Imperium of...I mean the Pius Dea. Also... 13:03 Gamecube (and Xbox and PS2) Star Wars: The Clone Wars 2002 game, Raxus Prime, scrap collector ships :)
Geetsy: *Makes a video SUPPOSED to be centered around the Hutt's.* Also Geetsy: *Proceeds to talk about other species and wars with the republic.* Me: What the fuck? You lied to me!!!
no, the jedi didnt part take in the Republics' actions and left. Some joined the republic and fell to the dark side and others went to help the people.
So can I. Those people didn't deserve to Starve to death in Space. Hopefully a future movement will learn from the mistakes of the last one and make better Navigation systems.
Whaaa. Pius Dea was so enlightened ! They probably were fighting for Slaanesh, tough. But they've got the right idea: Humanity First. Crusading against foul xenos, inquisitors to purge heretics, cathedral ships ... sister,brother! To think that the far away galaxy was so close to reach the light of the Astronomican, may our Holy Emperor have mercy upon their sinner souls.
Thanks for the info on the planet Tatooine as to the evolution of the Jawas and the Sandpeople. It was my deepest interest as to how the Sandpeople weren't considered to be one of the most despised species in the SW universe but the Jawas were.
Oh my God, have a good look at this 16:28!! With the Uniform (particularly the colour and the way that hat's almost hanging off his head in that nonchalant style) the scene of quite obvious and open slaughter, and the hapless, though handy for illustrative purposes, "innocent bystander about to be slaughtered", all coming together nicely with the narrator's voiceover, telling us that the "Republic was on another genocidal mission" or words to that effect, all coming together to give this otherwise, pretty ordinary "death and mayhem set loose in the Galaxy", a really super grim background story, way out of all proportion of the illustration, taken on a "stand alone" basis. Kudos, first and foremost, to the writer/s of the script, and to the settings, and pacing, and of course to you, Mr Narrator, your have a very distinctive, if sometimes, a little boring narrative, you're always understandable (you must know by now that not everyone "gets" Australian Spoken English, maybe it's accent, idioms or the pacing that just throws them, but whatever it is, your relaxed, laconic " she'll be right" style, really does wonders for the work, both here, and at "THE FRONT" ... You know what I'm talking about ... ; )
I know: a backdrop of the Republic being taken over by genocidal space fascist cultists (not the Empire) with the Supreme Chancellor's office effectively turned into a monarchy, and the Jedi having cut themselves off from the Republic as a result. This time the secessionists (Alsakan and its worlds) are the good guys, and you see them working with unsavory figures like the Hutts. Have it begin with the Caamasi emissaries coming to the Jedi Order asking them to end their centuries long exile and aid them against the Pius Dea and Contispex dynasty.
By the Force, the pre-Tales of the Jedi/Knights of the Old Republic eras were brutally weird. I must say, though, the Galactic Empire was many things wrong, but the Pius Dea... let's be grateful they've been wiped out completely.
It is amazing that the Old Republic lasted as long as it did. I would think that after the Pius Dea that the various non-human species would have banded together to wipe out humanity.
A lot of contention here about the clear parallels between WH 40k and Star Wars. However, there are some pretty significant differences. The Empire of Mankind became the way it is due to very real and very direct threat posed by the Chaos Gods, and the extreme religious zealotry of the Empire of Man was just a result of being constantly on guard to that extremely real threat. The Emperor of Mankind literally keeps humanity from being completely overrun and deavoured by rampaging mobs of demons. And if that wasn't bad enough, you also had Necrons, Tyranids, and Orks, all of which were deadly hostile to humanity and beyond reasoning with. The Republic didn't have anything remotely resembling that level of threat. The Republic simply got co-opted by a cult. They weren't under serious threat by hostile aliens, their god was not protecting them from being devoured by actual demonic entities, they just wanted a pretext to steal shit from wealthy planets and kill aliens. That's all. While the concept of religious zealotry being a vehicle behind horrifying actions is similar in both Star Wars and Warhammer 40k, at least you can have a small amount of begrudging empathy for Empire of Man because of how completely dire and dangerous the situation it was in. At least the Empire of Man had real reasons for being the way it is, Pius Dea and the Republic just decided to be assholes and used religion as means to justify it actions.
The Hutts are sinister. I was nine when ROJ came out. After I saw that I slept under my bed for days (it was the 80’s, the muppets were risqué’ back then)...ok, it was last week that I saw it, I’m still under my bed and over 40:) I can imagine most of the galaxy felt the same way...except for smugglers and bounty hunters maybe.
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Salt is my solution to the Hutt Empire.
GENIUS. That's why we didn't see them in The Last Jedi!
@@geetslys lmfao damnnnn
seriously i was thinking this myself the other day
Sometimes the simplest solution is the best solution.
Soap and water would be a good back up weapon.
Citizens of the Republic: *exists*
Jabba the Hutt: "It's a Free Estate."
nice ghost recon future soldier pfp
LOL
It's an older meme sir, but it checks out
its free real estate
Let them pass
Less than 50 crusades in a millennium
Imperium: You have to pump those numbers up! Those are rookie numbers!!
I heard this in GreyStillPlays voice
Kill the heretics !!
@@solaceixinera4015 And don't forget the most important asset in our war effort... A FULL LIQUOR BAR~!
There is only one crusade, because it never truly ends. For the emperor!
If it was the Imperium, there wouldn’t be any Hutts around to tell the story.
I still can't believe how feared the Hutts apparently we're but Maul took them over in two simple attacks. Easily I might add.
Most beings can't walk right up to a Hutt, cut down their bodyguards, and survive long enough to hunt them down. Maul was uniquely capable of quickly quashing the conflict. Plus Jabba probably let him hunt down and kill most of the Hutt family heads so he could muscle in and rule Hutt Space pretty much unopposed.
@@kylevidauri4869 Then he died, and now others like Boba are trying to take over his vast criminal empire.
The hutts got complacent which allowed maul and others to take over
Mayo is not your typical person either lol
Still can't get over Jabba getting strangled.
Gotta love how the Republic went full Warhammer at one point lol.
Without warp no real warhammer :D But it is close
Down with the Xenos
@@tomaskops7119 hyperspace is a superior way of travel though
@@DefinitelyNotEmma agree but warp is one thinf that makes Warhammer 40k
@@tomaskops7119 when I think about Warhammer I think about the Imperium and glory for mankind!
First person to read a warhammer 40K book in star wars: Well this is inspirational!
I will fortify
Heretics, heretics everywhere
I felt a Connection to the Pias Dais.
For the Emperor!
Purge the xenos!
I've played the Knights of the Old Republic games, and in them people hated the Jedi because their conflicts devastated the galaxy. It's interesting to see though that the galaxy was just as capable of getting wrecked without them.
Here, here! It was actually fallen Jedi that played their part in devastating the galaxy. For the most part, at least. Jedi have blood on their hands as well.
They`re ungrateful, I guess they would rather the Sith rule us all! Or some other equally evil empire...
@@90skidcultist ikr, Honestly, I would rather live under the rule of the Jedi than most other groups. But then again Jedi only take charge of Goverements when they have to, but a Jedi Leader at least isn't prone to things like bribery or currruption.
It also shows what a bunch of hypocrites the Jedi truly were.
They allowed the Republic to go bat shit crazy and carry out acts of genocide for a 1,00 years.
After hearing that, if I WERE Force Sensitive , I'd give serious consideration to the Sith order.
@@dustinmaxwell259 how
@@dustinmaxwell259 u tryna murder some kids bro?cause that’s what sith do lmao
"Hutts with a plot to take over the Republic"
*Makeb and Isotope 5 flashbacks intensify*
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Rise of the Hutt Cartel, what a glorious time for bounty hunter xD
@@mr.frostvampier A painful time for the Agent though. What with being buried alive and all.
@@livinghistory9701 oh man, i forgott about it xD but a statysfying time for Sith Warriors and Sorcerer.
If they control the Republic's trades, they are technically in charge already. It's an oligarchy, not a democracy.
Hmm, isnt it called capitalism
@@polsatinter5400 no
@@polsatinter5400 theres no 1 power in control with that. Free trade and multiple business competition to stimulate, hopefully, involved economies are staples in a true working Capitalist system
@@polsatinter5400 Yes. The end state of capitalism is monopoly.
@@freepalestine2434 Nah. That's one possible failure state.
The republic literally just read one 40k book and went “yeah this is the way to go”
I kinda like that there's an almost Warhammer 40k period in the Republic's past and that's why humans are so prevalent in Star Wars. They even basically shout "For the Emperor!" and fly around in Cathedral Ships exterminating billions of aliens on the premise that they're "inferior"
They physically and fittingly had 40k artwork in this video lol
@@Warfighter-lf7tb Exactly, because it basically was Warhammer designs for those ships I think
Me: "The Pius Dea are terrible!"
(learns they were created to fight the Hutts)
Me: "Understandable, have a nice day."
@@KaiHung-wv3ul 😂😂😂
@@KaiHung-wv3ul The one time xenophobia was justified and they immediately fucked it up.
The dark plot to conquer the Republic. Yeah so apparently Darth Sidious wasn’t dark he was just the Senate and the Sith were just mad the Jedi stole 50 credits from them
Now I can't get the image out of my head of the Sith, waging a secret campaign over thousands of years, to get back at the Jedi for... stealing 50 credits from Darth Bane. And that is totally in character for the Sith.
Basically
That 50 credits would be worth billions now though!
@@jayburn00 ah yes, the negotiator.
The famous "Revenge of the Sith" which, of course, was revenge against the Jedi for Darth Bane killing all the Sith.
Let’s be honest. The real reason everyone feared them is because no one out pizzas the hutts.
Fun fact: in this era in the franchise... The secret weapon against conquering villainous giant gangster/soldier space Space slugs...
A big canister of table salt...
Blunderbuss and rocks alt
Still don't know how these guys can be a threat their slow as hell
@@Sornago mind control son!
@@Sornago They can be pretty damn fast for their size.
The Bureau of Ships and Services has some real hero moments.
Hard not to when your opposing force is straight out of 40k
Trying to sneak the Phalanx from 40k in at 8:17 or the Gothic class cruiser at 11:51 you thought we wouldn't notice but we did
I mean this was basically the 40k period of star wars
Star Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!
There's also a chaos warship at 6:22
Yes.
@@fireborn lmao 🤣👌
Bro this was the more Warhammer 40k than Star Wars. Would love to see a version of this as a series
I made a plot for a live action series where an engineer aboard a Cathedral Ship covertly defects and tries to prevent a small civilization of peaceful yet defiant aliens from getting wiped out in an inevitable crusade. Wanted the story to end in tragedy where a traitor amongst insurrectionist destroys all the progress the protagonists have made in the series and they all get Rogue One'd (if you know what I mean) 💀
Man....with all the talk of Henri Cavill starring in a Warhammer show, I thought your Pfp was Henri Cavill 😂
@@blackshogun272 heresy.
There's a Star Wars/40K crossover series by A Fan with too much time. It's really good.
Had to double check to make sure this wasn’t 40k 😂😂😂
Me too
It would honestly be cool if one day we get series with a war between the Hutts and the New Republic
Would be boring it’s like government vs mafia so the new republic invaded huttterritorys and the hutts Honigbrot hiding and making cash or a Guerilla campaign of mercenaries.
Modern hutts don’t fight they obese rich slugs who sit on their thrones and bribe everyone
In New Canon the Hutts all but collapsed because the major slave species that worshipped them as gods rebelled after Leia strangled jabba and the recordings got around. In Legends the Hutts DID fight against the Galactic Alliance (the NR's successor state) as a MAJOR part of the Corellian Confederation. Since they heavily re-armed after the Vong war reminded them that not every threat can be bought off.
the Hutts make no sense. the galaxy is populated by magic warriors, and species who are neatly powerful in either body, mind or technology. and the hutts have nothing. how would they have every conquered anyone?
Movies: We see one Hutt as a crime lord
Expanded universe: Let's make THE ENTIRE SPECIES crime lords
That's Star Wars for ya :/
I saw those Warhammer 40k pictures you snuck in there..
Hehe, we sneaky like that.
@@geetslys in Warhammer40k Pias Dias would be considered a Tame Soft Version of the emperium of man.
THE EMPEROR PROTECTS! WAIT wrong crusade
It is better to die for the Emperor then to live for yourself!
@@Another40kFan "Palpatines Red Guards"
I misread it as why everyone feared the nutts.
I fear both.
Pius Dea is just a nicer version of the Imperium of Man.
" They deemed all non-humans lesser. " Cut to them having an Emperor clad in golden armor wielding a flaming sword and shooting mind bullets that they can just claim was the Force.
I’d like to see the huts demonstrate why the Star Wars universe fears them. They seem like they can’t do anything. Princess Leah killed one with a chain. Seems like anyone in Jabba’s palace could have aced him and taken over.
That was 15,000 years after they had their entire empire devastated, Jabba was generations removed from their ancient warriors, the old Hutt were fearsome, Jabba and his Hutt relatives were just lazy rich criminals. The old Hutt, clad in metal from tail to head were organic tanks, easy to look at the big slug bois as just blobs but that was likely mostly muscle back then, when they actually fought themselves rather than using money and other people to solve their issues.
Why all of this Pius Dea stuff sounds like Warhammer 40K? Xenophobic crusades and cathedral ships burning the galaxy in the name of a pseudo deity screams 40K to me.
Someone on LucasArts probably found WH40K
Except the Emperor at this point is a god no pseudo about it
That's the joke. GW stole plenty, including from SW (though really they mostly both took "inspiration" from the same even older sources)
Tzeentch was on vacation and wanted to test out some of his "many plans" on some unsuspecting fools before trying his luck against the imperium of man. think of it as a controlled experiment on an analogue space fairing galaxy, he sets up similar conditions then tests out weaknesses and strikes with a heresy. that's the best canon I can think of for this crossover episode. prolly why the jedi were like "hold up wait a minute, something aint right. we are staying out of this." they sensed something new and strange... the taint of chaos. or the writer for a WH40K book got let go mid write and retooled it and sold it to george lucas who was like "more stuff to riff on? write that sh*t down"
Just got a Warhammer ad, wtf...
I'm getting a feeling that the Coruscant vs Alsakan wars look like the old English and French wars.
Going by how a lot of Star Wars history is based off of Rome and Greece, I'd say it was more based off of the Punic Wars between the Roman Republic and the Carthaginian Republic.
@@ladygrey7425 The Punic Wars would be more like the Sith Wars with its devastation, the Tionese Wars were kinda like the wars against the Gauls of Northern Italy, and the Alsakani Wars are like the perpetual rebellions of the Samnites against the Roman Republic. And Palpatine in the prequels is probably modeled off Augustus, except, you know....evil.
After reading Fate of the Jedi, I feel like Abeloth was connected to the Pius Dea at some point
Abeloth could have certainly influenced some events.
@@akumaking1 it makes somewhat sense because the Killiks mentioned whenever she escaped it was because of wanes of balance and extreme levels of negative energy from chaos. And wars between the Ones and her lasted centuries
After her mother Tilotny died and formed her, (Mourning) Abeloth took most of her mother's traits, personality, and ambitions. For millennia she would be "The Goddess" of many races. Not every major conflict or dark time was because of her escaping her prison planet in The Maw though the most terrible one's could be attributed to her influence...
Funny how I was thinking this very thing because this would have been the exact kinda shit she'd cause. Tho it was mentioned that she'd escaped in the past I'd say this very well could have been one of those times
@@forthencholordofadmirals2763 I’d say the collapse of the Rakatans and/or the Pius Dea could be connected to her moments of escape.
"The Goddess" huh
Is it just me or does the entire Pius Dea thing sound an awful lot like something that was probably connected to the local cosmic horror known as Abeloth introduced much latter in old legends?
Omg that would actually be an amazing connection
much later?? this was both written in 2009, so it was probably intentional
Holy shit, that would be crazy. And also ironic since Abeloth herself is barely human anymore...
But just exactly when was abeloth originally a servant to the elder son and daughter in the timeline,just curious
Republic: nearly was wiped out multiple times and was turned into an empire.
Hutt empire: *isn’t bothered with anything and would still continue long after time is destroyed.*
I always thought the Pius Dea Crusades were glorious times for the Republic, trying to be a mini Imperium of Man
it is very Warhammer 40k. All hail the god emperor of man kind
They were
Glory is not incompatible with infamy
@@thomaslacroix6011 Nice one, mate.
@@thomaslacroix6011 What do you mean by that, if you don't mind explaining that is.
I feared the Hutts because I was 10 years old and a Giant slug had my first girlfriend in chains eating frogs and watching people eaten for fun. It was the 80’s, Jason and the hockey mask still scared people.
True that
Jason can still scare people under the right circumstances.
The Republic had many crazy times long before the Sith ever became a thing. The transformation of the Hutt culture is an intriguing topic. I do wonder though, in a conventional war who would win between the Galactic Empire and the Hutt Cartel.
Also with the similarities with IoM, the Pius Dea did manage to do something the IoM couldn't, have a half-decent economy.
Galactic Empire. If Maul subdued not only the Hutts but all the big crimelords e.g. Pykes and Black Sun, I doubt Palpatine would fail to do the same. He'd vaporise the Hutts before letting them stop the Empire. The Hutts are strong but the Galactic Empire is the Galactic Empire. Palpatine would just send Vader to go after the Hutt leaders and step in if he failed to kill them all.
Even if they 'went to ground' and tried to fight a guerrilla war, rebel style, the Hutt Cartels wouldn't be able to keep control over most of their major citadels and strongholds. It'd be a bloody battle for Imperial forces as the Stormtrooper Corps would be forced into repeated urban warfare and ambushes, with the fights not always going their way. But once the Imperials bring in their real firepower it's all over. Walkers, heavy artillery units, TIE Fighters, repulsorlift tanks, troop transports, juggernauts, Star Destroyers, cruisers, frigates etc.
They are too numerous. The Empire could burp a hundred million troopers in the the general direction of the Hutts and still have plenty more where they came from. The reality is that it will probably degenerate into a protracted guerrilla war with several Hutts disappearing and being extremely hard to find, operating from hidden bases, through many thousands of agents and hired thugs, but the thing is, Palpatine would probably find them eventually.
He'd first send the Inquisitors and Imperial Commandos after them and if they weren't enough to decisively end the problem, copious Stormtrooper deployments and Imperial blockades would finish the job. But just as likely Palpatine and Vader could just go on a Hutt Hunt and kill them one by one. Imperial Intelligence and the machinations of the Sith Lords themselves - unbeknownst to most Imperials, being the real leadership of the Empire - would between them trap the Hutts in separate pockets around the galaxy. Nar Shadda and Nal Hutta wouldn't last long as the Empire would obviously deploy massive forces against them.
There could even be a situation where Hutts convene on either of those worlds to plan their next move and Vader shows up with the 501st while the Imperial Navy surround the planet. Hutt naval forces cannot stand up to the Imperial Navy and trade equal blows because the Imperial Navy is far larger and stronger. The Hutts will have some wins in space but still. Imperial orbital and aerial superiority is almost a given. I can imagine many TIE fighters being lost fighting skilled mercenaries and bounty hunters, but the problem for the Hutts is that the Empire has so many - and these Imperials are more well-trained than rebel propaganda implies - that they can't really stop them long-term.
If the war bogged down into a long, attrition based conflict, what would the goals of either side be? At what point does the Empire concede defeat or at what point do the Hutts give in? The Galactic Empire under Palpatine _will not_ be surrendering under any circumstances to the Hutt Cartel. Palpatine would never tolerate that and let's just remember how powerful the Empire is.
Obviously the rebels started off small, but they won against the Empire, in spite of humble beginnings. Yet popular public support for the Hutts? No, that won't happen. If anything it'd split opinion beyond the borders of the Empire and Palpatine might just bribe neighbours and vassals of the Hutts to rebel themselves.
Palpatine tolerated the Hutts because they were a necessary convenience while he was consolidating power during the Imperial Expansion Era. He didn't necessarily have any reason to get into a fight with them when he pragmatically could deal with that bridge when he came to it, in theory. In the case of Vader, of course he had no love for the Hutts. However, the Hutts would grow to fear Vader in a war scenario - Palpatine would use Vader as a weapon to destroy the Hutts.
The idea of Palpatine himself pulling a Maul moment and going in solo after the Hutts for a bit of sport, is also interesting. Palpatine pragmatically realised the value in keeping an area of space in the vast Outer Rim Territories, under Hutt Cartel control, while the Empire clearly held sway. Just look at the Imperial forces and how they operate on Tatooine, Jabba the Hutt's own haunt. The fact here is that Jabba would not have his agents/thugs fire on the Imperial Stormtroopers. Jabba knew better.
I remember hearing about and seeing stuff on TH-cam about a comic book series for Darth Vader, and in this, he basically straight up walked into Jabba's Palace, force choked Jabba and threatened him with a lightsaber. Vader didn't give the slightest fuck about the Hutts.
Again, if the rag-tag and somewhat spent Maul managed to not only smash the rival criminal groups but to hammer them under the banner of Crimson Dawn, then I think Palpatine and Vader would obliterate the Hutts.
Imperial losses will be high but ironically, the longer the war continues, the more hostile towards Hutts the Galactic Imperial citizenry/subjects shall become. Palpatine wouldn't need to say much to convince the Empire of how bad the Hutts were and he'd gain a lot of support in the process of destroying the Hutts.
Galactic Empire shall crush them. 25,000 ISDs and a smallish number of Star Dreadnoughts (dozens perhaps) would make the entire prospect of facing the Imperial Navy in it's proper force, a really bad idea for the Hutts. Hit and run, guerrilla tactics and urban warfare on dozens of worlds, would make it half viable for the Hutts to win some kind of concessions, but most likely Palpatine would have won anyway.
Especially if the DSI/DSII (Death Stars) are completed. Palpatine would destroy them. He'd end up victorious eventually. If Maul and the Death Watch can, Sidious, Vader and the Imperial military, should be able to win out. I'd imagine Palpatine would love to kill Hutts with a lightsaber or force lightning. Vader would find and kill a lot of them, especially if the Inquisitors failed to deal with the problem.
Clone Commando losses might also be high, but they will have all been aware they were hitting back harder.
Even if the war descends into the same old mess of a situation it has been for so long, Palpatine shall still win. It'd be very destructive though. Millions could die on all sides.
Is there a book that actually refers to the IoM economy?
Poverty runs rampant but I don't remember economy be an important subject in what I've read
But the Imperium has outlasted the Pius Dea by a good 9K+ years so who needs good economy anyway
@@danielpichardo7749 One thing you HAVE to understand about the Imperium of Man is that it is not a grandiose empire of the traditional sense. Rather, it is a collection of independent systems unified under one banner and religion, with each systems pretty much left to govern themselves however they see fit.
The reason for this form of governance? The warp. It is an extremely temperamental form of interstellar travel and communication. For the most part, ships can reasonably reach their destinations on a reliable timetable....plus minus a couple of weeks or months. But sometimes you can turn up at your destination *before* you departed from your point of origin. And this is in addition to the fact that all laws of physics and time can be thrown out the window, literally. 1 week in the warp can range from anywhere between 1 week in real space, 1 minute in real space, or even 1 century.
So yeah, good luck trying to keep a standardized economy and trade and regular communication under those circumstances, much less a unified government. The administratum might seem to be a bunch of incompetent cocks, but they're doing the best they can to keep the remains of humanity afloat in a universe where literally everything else can kill you in the most gruesome way imaginable in less than a blink of an eye. Maybe even less.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the warp is also where the Chaos gods set up shop as well didn't I?
Some insurrectionist Hutts attacked Darth Vader's Super Star Destroyer. 1 single Imperial ship wiped out most of the Hutt council bar Jabba. The empire let the Hutts exist because they did a better job at subjugation Hutt space than the Empire could have done.
“Vaporized the atmosphere”
A perfect example of people using words without knowing what they mean.
Really atomizes your vapors.
It would be correct if it was "photo-evaporated" aka blowing off the atmosphere with electromagnetic energy.
@@legendarygodzilla3577 that would be dissipation not evaporation
@@gary_stavropoulos photo-evaporation isn't the same as regular evaporation.
Ah yes the "If Games Workshop can steal basically every idea in their IP, we fan steal a few of theirs for an Easter egg" faction
Fair is Fair 💪😎👌
FOR THE EM- Wait no wrong humanocentric religious dictatorship
The EMPEROR WILLS IT!
Religious Anthrocentric Imperial Galactic Confederation* pls
FOR THE HORDE
@@geetslys WAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH
Who would have thought that Star Wars had a Warhammer 40k streak at one point?
Emo phase.
Humans: monke
Geonotions: stick bugged
Hutts: *SluGS*
I always thought of the Hutts as the star wars version of the Mafia.
These crusades remind me just a little bit of the imperium of man in warhammer 40k
Giant space slugs who wouldn't be afraid
LOL
People who carry a lot of salt?
I just know this video will pop up in my recommendations one day at 1 am
Hutts, back in the ancient times or when there pissed are pretty much organic tanks.
And the Pius Dea era has been an era that’s interested me for some time, there just not a whole lot about it.
So thanks for this content.
Alternate video title: that time the Republic decided to roleplay as the Imperium of Man
I’ll never understand how man sized slugs managed to make anyone fear them.
They were bigger then men.
They can swallow you whole...
They were also intelligent and knowledge is power
Jabba and many other rich huts are like how obese humans are to us. It would be like judging our species' physical capabilities just by looking at obese people. Fit huts were slugs of pure muscle and were essentially organic tanks with extreme durability.
So the republic had sort of a 40k moment, wow.
Why did the Jedi have to wait a thousand years to do something?
Still, I must say that I'm impressed that they didn't destroy themselves after such a long time without a chaperone...
*Republic 11986 BBY:* _"Just Chillin'..._
*Republic 11987 BBY:* _...Killin'"_
That went from zero to "slaughter the heretics!" reaaaal quicc...
8:28 Gondorians fighting Dinosaurs in the Imperium of...I mean the Pius Dea.
Also... 13:03 Gamecube (and Xbox and PS2) Star Wars: The Clone Wars 2002 game, Raxus Prime, scrap collector ships :)
Geetsy: *Makes a video SUPPOSED to be centered around the Hutt's.*
Also Geetsy: *Proceeds to talk about other species and wars with the republic.*
Me: What the fuck? You lied to me!!!
Their history is tied together.
I wrote an essay about the human supremacy in star wars yesterday. This vid helped me a lot. Thx Geetsly s
So the Jedi sided with the filthy Xenos to destroy the properly Human-centric Empire? Glad they got wiped out.
no, the jedi didnt part take in the Republics' actions and left. Some joined the republic and fell to the dark side and others went to help the people.
I can get behind this Pius Dea movement
So can I. Those people didn't deserve to Starve to death in Space. Hopefully a future movement will learn from the mistakes of the last one and make better Navigation systems.
The Republic after 34 Pius Dea Crusades: "Almost lost my cool there."
I was always under the impression that the Order of the Terrible Glare was the predecessor to The Ministry of Silly Walks
The Pius Dea era is probably the Star Wars version of 40K
Exactly what I was thinking as well
Only Chaos isn't here, shame
Whaaa. Pius Dea was so enlightened ! They probably were fighting for Slaanesh, tough.
But they've got the right idea: Humanity First. Crusading against foul xenos, inquisitors to purge heretics, cathedral ships ... sister,brother! To think that the far away galaxy was so close to reach the light of the Astronomican, may our Holy Emperor have mercy upon their sinner souls.
The Emperor Protects
Why Slaneesh?
@@JRBDWD Pius Dea worship a goddess and Slaneesh is the only Chaos Gods which has a female deciption.
@@JRBDWD Because that's what Abeloth prefers to go by in that other galaxy.
Definitely inspired by the Baron of Harkonnen in Dune
More like if Baron Harkonnen became the half worm.
I love the Hutts because I was obsessed with the mafia as a kid and teen and they were Star Wars Mafia.
Thanks for the info on the planet Tatooine as to the evolution of the Jawas and the Sandpeople. It was my deepest interest as to how the Sandpeople weren't considered to be one of the most despised species in the SW universe but the Jawas were.
Nice Warhammer 40k reference. I would love to see the factions of Star Wars take on the Races Of Warhammer 40k!
Oh my God, have a good look at this 16:28!! With the Uniform (particularly the colour and the way that hat's almost hanging off his head in that nonchalant style) the scene of quite obvious and open slaughter, and the hapless, though handy for illustrative purposes, "innocent bystander about to be slaughtered", all coming together nicely with the narrator's voiceover, telling us that the "Republic was on another genocidal mission" or words to that effect, all coming together to give this otherwise, pretty ordinary "death and mayhem set loose in the Galaxy", a really super grim background story, way out of all proportion of the illustration, taken on a "stand alone" basis.
Kudos, first and foremost, to the writer/s of the script, and to the settings, and pacing, and of course to you, Mr Narrator, your have a very distinctive, if sometimes, a little boring narrative, you're always understandable (you must know by now that not everyone "gets" Australian Spoken English, maybe it's accent, idioms or the pacing that just throws them, but whatever it is, your relaxed, laconic " she'll be right" style, really does wonders for the work, both here, and at "THE FRONT" ... You know what I'm talking about ... ; )
E.T. is Jabba's henchmen CONFIRMED!
This conflict sounds so cool. This could literally be a whole movies series
I know: a backdrop of the Republic being taken over by genocidal space fascist cultists (not the Empire) with the Supreme Chancellor's office effectively turned into a monarchy, and the Jedi having cut themselves off from the Republic as a result. This time the secessionists (Alsakan and its worlds) are the good guys, and you see them working with unsavory figures like the Hutts.
Have it begin with the Caamasi emissaries coming to the Jedi Order asking them to end their centuries long exile and aid them against the Pius Dea and Contispex dynasty.
By the Force, the pre-Tales of the Jedi/Knights of the Old Republic eras were brutally weird.
I must say, though, the Galactic Empire was many things wrong, but the Pius Dea... let's be grateful they've been wiped out completely.
The Prius dea is basically the imperium of man in 40k excluding space marines and the empire xD
Hutts: * exist *
Salt: *Bonjour*
8:15 Was that a 40k space fortress used as a visual aid? A fitting image for that description being used there! xD
0:35 Everybody gangsta till Jabba enslaves E.T's planet.
Hutts to republic: Silly Jedi silly jedi
dam the pius dat saunds like resanoble peop-le how do i join? so sad the are gone
15:15: ...Is this finally the birth of the Sith Order by way of Ajunta Pall?
It would be so surreal to stumble on a cathedral ship just floating in interstellar space, a tomb.
When I clicked on the video, the likes were at 69. Nice.
Nice
sigh
“And the Republic’s equally abhorrent response to it”
I’m guessing it involves salt.
Love how doesn’t even hide the fact that its full of warhammer vibes 😂
Do a video on other known galaxies and empires!
That would be awesome
Silly jedi
0:30 I fkin can't with the fkin ET being out there with his magic finger 😭😂
These Pius Dea crusades are starting to sound like Warhammer 40k
Pius Deia - when Star wars galaxy loved 40k a bit too much
"The Goddess wills it." Should've just gone with "Deus li vult!". lol
11 years later and it still goes hard
The Pius Dea looks AWESOME
The hutts of volume gangsters I would not mess with them i was wondering can you do video of the nagai species
It is amazing that the Old Republic lasted as long as it did. I would think that after the Pius Dea that the various non-human species would have banded together to wipe out humanity.
I love the Hutts and Jabba is one of my top 10 characters in star wars
The Hutts are great!
9:39 star wars went full Warhammer 40k on us
I never thought I would hear that
9:42 was giving me some Imperium of Man vibes there
A lot of contention here about the clear parallels between WH 40k and Star Wars. However, there are some pretty significant differences. The Empire of Mankind became the way it is due to very real and very direct threat posed by the Chaos Gods, and the extreme religious zealotry of the Empire of Man was just a result of being constantly on guard to that extremely real threat. The Emperor of Mankind literally keeps humanity from being completely overrun and deavoured by rampaging mobs of demons. And if that wasn't bad enough, you also had Necrons, Tyranids, and Orks, all of which were deadly hostile to humanity and beyond reasoning with.
The Republic didn't have anything remotely resembling that level of threat. The Republic simply got co-opted by a cult. They weren't under serious threat by hostile aliens, their god was not protecting them from being devoured by actual demonic entities, they just wanted a pretext to steal shit from wealthy planets and kill aliens. That's all.
While the concept of religious zealotry being a vehicle behind horrifying actions is similar in both Star Wars and Warhammer 40k, at least you can have a small amount of begrudging empathy for Empire of Man because of how completely dire and dangerous the situation it was in. At least the Empire of Man had real reasons for being the way it is, Pius Dea and the Republic just decided to be assholes and used religion as means to justify it actions.
Soyjak moment
Also some species the Pius Dea wanted to kill would be fine in the Imperium.
Right when I wanted something interesting to watch this shows up :)
Awww!
Love the shout-out to Generation Tech here. 🤣
Great video, awesome insight into the Hutts
Peta: All species deserve to live
Me after watching this video: Oh really now
Ah yes that one time starwars decided to go 40k that nobody remembered
Omg the ship battle at 6:25 is a Chaos fleet vs Tau!
Holy shit that little intro gave me so much nostalgia
Them - The Hutts are too powerful! We’re doomed!
Me - Just walk upstairs and buy some salt. Problem solved.
The Hutts are sinister. I was nine when ROJ came out. After I saw that I slept under my bed for days (it was the 80’s, the muppets were risqué’ back then)...ok, it was last week that I saw it, I’m still under my bed and over 40:) I can imagine most of the galaxy felt the same way...except for smugglers and bounty hunters maybe.
love the crime world/Hutt related videos thanks