Why the Sith NEVER Recruited from Certain Species
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The very idea of "Sith Recuitment" is kinda hilarious.
"Do you want to crush the Galaxy beneath the boot of a tyrannical regime? WE'RE HIRING!"
And that's how the internal revenue service came into being
I seem to remember that there literally were Sith recruiters in KOTR and yes they basically were handing out pamphlets.
@@Rahhelthethird You mean KOTOR?
I just imagine a Kamino sith just being super passive aggressive.
I loooove that, spacist Kamino Karen
They are basically potential trolls in the making😅😅😅😅
I can imagine they would be angry they just wouldn't overtly show it.
@@isabelmcgaugh711imagine pissing one off and now you experienced the most inconvenient thing daily basis
I can just imagine a Kaminoan in a situation like that.
- Obi Wan Kenobi: "I have the high ground!"
- Kaminoan Sith: "It would certainly be shame if the earth fell from underneath you."
Sha-Koon to Palpatine: I have turned to the dark side and wish to be your apprentice.
Palpatine: That's a load of Sith and you know it. You and your species are known for their justice and kindness.
Kinda makes you wonder. How many characters really wanted to be sith, but got turned down. What do they do? Obviously too dark to be jedi, maybe they formed a screwed up anti sith. (And yeah, i know about the dark jedi, and other orders, but its an amusing idea.)
You're a genius
xDDDDD
Why do I picture Palaptine having a list of possible apprentice candidates and he just slowly crossed them out until he found Anakin lol.
@@yagdtigercommander That honestly would not surprise me.
Humans are the ultimate jack of all trades.
I think you mean "Jack of all TRADES," but yah!
Maybe, or maybe humans are the standard by which other species capabilities are measured. Or since they are the most plentiful species, differences in in individuals reaches greater extremes in the Bell curve (1% of a 1000 being the same as 10% of 100 type of thing) making humans over represent in areas were on average they suck.
So true, especially if they're children.
Of course, even they aren't invincible, as that poor lass on Amphibia proved.
I always thought it was "Jack of all traits"
@@szczypior2714 so did I, but geetsly is always right.
When your here so fast you still don’t know about space racism
haha,yeah.
“Spacism”😵
LOL
Genius term
@@crocowithaglocko5876 lol 😂
Picture a Hutt Sith, Lord of Crime.
There actually (sort-of) was one.
In-universe one of the more popular forms of entertainment were holodramas (our movies, but holo).
One of them, called "Juo Deltar Faces Gamblor the Terrible" featured a Sith Hutt named Gamblor.
I'm not making this up, just paste the title into Wookieepedia
Wasn't there a former Jedi Hutt turned Dark Side who got killed by Leia Organa in the third Callista book?
@@michaelandreipalon359
Beldorion the Hutt, yes.
However, "dark Jedi" are not exactly "Sith"
@John joseph Corona
While Force-sensitivity among the Hutts was rare, it wasn't completly non-existant. Also, as you mentioned, most Hutts became crime lords, so even if there was a Force-sensitive Hutt, it was extremely unlikely that one would join the Jedi Order. Beldorion was an exception, not a rule.
That said, not all Hutts became crime lords. Aside from Beldorion we have Dr. Juvard Illip Oggurobb, who (to the shock of other Hutts) decided to devote himself to science. His fortune came from high demand for his engeneering and medical skills, as well as from research grants and money gained by winning "Bao-Dur Science Prize" 5 times. By the year of 3631 BBY, he became a head of science departament in the Alliance against the Zakuulan Empire. That's where his story ends for now, but we may get more through SW:ToR expantions.
Another example can be Kossak Inijic Ar'durv, who at the height of Xim Wars united the Hutts and served as a political and military leader. While most Hutts are remembered for being crime lords, he was remembered for defeating and killing Xim the Despot in 25100 BBY
@@HonestHappyHater While true, Beldorion was fast on his way to becoming one when Leia killed him.
The Senate was the BEST the Sith ever recruited.
Lets be honest. Politicians= forceless sith. Or jar jar. Not sure which is worse.
@@blackc1479 definitely Jar-Jar.
Revan, Tulak Hord, Vitiate, Traya: *Am I a joke to you?*
@@Degenevesting 😄😄😄
Meesa am the Senate
Were there any Sith pureblood Jedi? that could be both awkward and hilarious.
Jedi Master: "And what species are you, my unusual red friend? "
Sith Jedi:
"Erm... well..."
Darth Praavan (a Sith Pureblood in SWTOR) left the Sith Order and became a Jedi.
@@karlrovey traitor
@@karlrovey
He never reached the status of "Darth" if I remember correctly.
But still, good job, not many people now that
@@HonestHappyHater The reunion with him on Corellia is great.
I'm aaaa... Chiss with a skin condition.
Tell us about the demon bears.
Pan Pan, Grizz, and Ice Bear?
@@geetslys Yes.
@@geetslys even if it's just a 2 minute video I really want to learn about the Bilars. I need to know what's more demon bear than an Ewok.
I imagine they won't recruit from some species that have really really bad history with the Sith or the Dark Side. Like it giving a Nuke to some one with a vendetta against them that might want to kill them all off.
So, the Miraluka. Darth Nihilus destroyed the Planet Katarr, which caused their near extinction.
(Although Jerec is an exception)
...since the rule of two it's basically true for every apprentice. The apprentice goal is to kill his master.
...which, thinking of it, is pretty dumb. You ask somebody raised into an ultra individualist culture to hire and train his futur assasin for the good of the sith.
Realistically, you'll have 2 generation before the sith master decide to recruit an idiot who will never be a threat
I would argue the wookies would have been a species the sith rarely recruited from.
Id say compared to mny other species there arent many wookies in the galaxy
Force-sensitive Wookiees were rather rare, so between the fact that there was only a small pool of candidates to choose from and the Jedi would likely get to them first, this doesn’t surprise me.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Plus the Wookiees had strong family bonds that extended beyond blood ties due to their values of loyalty (Such as Chewbacca with Han and the Skywalkers) and though ferocious when provoked were largely peaceful and valued life. There are a few bloody exceptions but the vast majority of Wookiees would not be good candidates for dark side force users.
Although lets all agree a Sith Wookiee would be terrifying...
*Hanharr enters the chat*
Probably why Palpatine hated them so much.
Maybe you guys should do a video on the species that would be "good" recruits for the sith, i mean besides the more obvious ones like pure blood sith, humans, zabraks etc. The more obscure ones like munns, umbarans, anzatis you know? You guys probably have better examples but you get what i mean. Great video as always!
I do wonder if a Dark Side user in a hive mind might also infect the whole hive mind, since the Dark Side is a bit like a cancer. If the Sith thought of that, it would just be another reason to avoid them.
I think the issue is how the cooperation of a hive mind handles the selfishness of the dark side. Sith may declare war together but they wage war like it's a battle royal, and for a hive mind that is structured for each individual to play a role the dark side influence might wipe them out or be separated from the collective to protect themselves.
also it defeats the purpose of the rule of two which is to prevent apprentices teaming up and killing their masters before they become strong.
The sith want power.. force or political, not all races are really able to gain power in the ladder
It's funny how all the sith are obsessed with gaining power and beeing edgy but when Darth Bane was alive the sith were a bunch of sheep that blindly followed and served anyone that was stronger than them at least untill the rule of 2
You know, I'm one of the rare few who do not have a phobia of clowns. Likely because I never had a birthday party that involved clowns as a kid, since my older brother does have a clown phobia. However, seeing those nightmare teddy bears, the Bilars could make me afraid of teddy bears.
How about dolls?
@@michaelandreipalon359 Not really, since I was also fortunate not to have my baby room filled with dolls. Although, I will admit they are kind of creepy. I wouldn't say I'm scared of them, or have a phobia of them.
Rare few? Lolz isnt it a rare few that ARE scared of clowns??
@@Stranger69in One, you do realize that you are replying to a 5 month old comment correct. Two, considering that it is one of the more common fears because apparently people not knowing what clowns look like behind the makeup scares people, I'm pretty sure that there is not a rare few that ARE scared of clowns.
You arnt a rare few, Infact many people couldn't give a fuck about clowns
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I bow to you my lord.
*Waves lightsaber in shape of Mickey Mouse*
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@@darthsinniious1989 thank you. I’m so glad you’ve pledged your allegiance to me.
Imagine what the Sith could do if they were open-minded enough to accept the Shard into their ranks, when the Jedi turned them away.
Basically what if General Grievous had Force potential.
Well its starwars... many races would be laughed at if they ran a powerful entity sith or not
Bet those creepy Hive Mind bears are welcomed by the sith.
The Bilars? Those things still haunt me.
I think a group of Bilar Force users, fighting as one, would be OP.
@@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y that's the problem its rare for even one to be force sensitive much less a whole group of them sit basically impossible.
Their also hive mind.
Another thing to remember is that regardless of the viability/pragmatism of one species or other, as far as the Sith Order was concerned, is that across the history of the Star Wars galaxy, the Sith were neither always as widespread or as prolific as they later became. They didn't physically know about or come into contact with a lot of species (as with other groups, such as the Jedi themselves) across large sections of galactic history. It's important to contextualise this.
At any given time the absolute knowledge base of the Sith about the wider galaxy around them, wouldn't always be exactly the same. We can take it for granted that in the Skywalker Saga timeline, the Sith have been around for a _very_ long time (over 7,000 years before the Battle of Yavin in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope) and that in this staggering time, in which the Jedi have been around even longer (much longer), they will have a deep and storied understanding of the history of the galaxy, built upon dynasty after fallen dynasty, era after era. Most of the Sith were long gone a thousand years before Episode I: The Phantom Menace. That's kind of the point of calling it a 'phantom' menace.
The Sith would have known a lot but also forgotten an awful lot by the time of Palpatine. He maintained a staggering understanding of the Sith history and culture, and embodied them perhaps metaphysically in more ways than one, as their last major scion and darkest star (though Vitiate would give him a run for his money on the darkness part; though Palpatine was stronger, officially the strongest Sith Lord that ever lived)
What matters is that in any historical era, the Sith would have had their own reasons and thoughts based on that paradigm's situations and traits, that made them come to certain conclusions. In some cases it might well be the kind of prejudices some people are mentioning in this comments section, but the general theme I'm seeing here is that most of the time it's about finding pragmatic options. If species just don't get angry and furious like the Sith tend to like to, then it's like a negative charge.
They don't have much business being a Sith then. It might be seen as a biologically deterministic situation, though again, the Sith want the attributes that they excel at, as you pointed out, as individualistic and emotive beings. It is less about 'racism' which I see being bandied around here, but more about _pragmatism_ regardless of what the individual Sith Lords themselves thought about things.
Sure, I'm guessing over 7,000 years of history you would indeed see a lot of them with hate in _that_ way, though again, what would the context be for each individual? The Sith still are a multi-species order (or were) and it's hard to generalise. There absolutely were humanocentrist Sith e.g. Tyranus and Sidious, but then again I'm sure plenty of non-human Sith were capable of hating humanity over 7,000 plus years. Maybe avoiding reading current year emotions into Star Wars is a good idea? lol The point here is that this is such a long span of time that it would be _bizarre if they weren't_ hugely divided and hateful.
To borrow a saying about arachnids, if there were 100 Sith Lords locked in a dark room together and you opened the door a while later, eventually there'd be one big Sith Lord left in the middle (I'm not accusing Sith of cannibalism I'm just saying that figuratively speaking they'd eventually turn on and kill each other until 1 remained, if at all; in the spider related saying, the Spider that remains is just the biggest and hungriest that ate more of the others than the others managed to eat of it; might be missing a leg or two and a couple of eyes but it'd be the mean old survivor in the middle, which is the point) Though, metaphorically speaking, it'd have to be _quite the door_ to keep 100 Sith Lords trapped inside it for long.
The Sith are not too dissimilar. They always destroy one another eventually. Whether or not they have a prejudicial hate from one era to the next, is somewhat of a moot point when so many of them just want to dominate all life anyway (and in the case of Emperor Valkorion/Vitiate, he got so crazy he wanted to outlive the galaxy itself and destroy and consume _everything_ so he could become a God; so dangerous the Sith themselves turned on him because he endangered all life in the galaxy let alone just them)
_It was ironic_ - Palpatine.
Have there ever be the cases of the Jedi and Sith who've fallen in love with one another? I know that sound unthinkable but it could happened. But it must be quite super rare.
Sith Lady Githany, a former Jedi, and Kiel Charny was one such couple. Jacen Solo (Darth Caedus, formerly a Jedi) and Tenel Ka Djo were another. Additionally, there was also Jedi Ben Skywalker (son of Luke) and Sith Saber Vestara Khai, who turned to the light side for a time.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis add Darth Talon and Cade Skywalker
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Githany and Kiel might not count, because they were both Jedi when they were in love.
@@dariyadara3764 They had a fling, they never loved each other.
Technically your Inquisitor can with Ashara in SWTOR.
Then there is Lana.
8:45: Oh, dear Force, not again!
9:38: ...Yes! I'll just drop some of these into hostile lands and forces such as Amphibia, the Boiling Isles, and AWCY from the SCP Foundation.
3:39 "sithy"
I like that
After hearing about the Sluissi, I kinda wish their was a Jedi Sluissi now
We need a snek Jedi
Found the snekfuccer! Vigilo Confido!
The Jedi Path actually mentions Sluissi padawans, if I remember correctly
i’d love to see a version of what species the sith and the jedi look for/prioritize as well!!
Can you make a video about the reconstituted Sith empire and the types of Sith like inquisitors Sith Warriors and Sith acolyte
Kinda depends on what means by "Sith," such towards a lot of the ever crumbling empires who didn't fully 'get' things, compared with a much smaller perhaps few who understood both Avarice and Restraint . . . to have Passion towards Power but also to what ends of it. Blind Aggression has its values but only goes so far.
Honestly I’m glad there’s no Sith Bilars around, they are scary enough already, I don’t want to imagine one running at you with a red lightsaber
I'm sure you let anyone on the Holonet for long enough and they'll become prime Sith material
U should do a video on the Dark Side Dragons, the Hssiss
Miraluka I am convinced fit in the same rare to be a Sith. Athough a few were Sith and Dark Jedi, Visas Marr, for example. But I am under the impression that Dark Sided Miraluka were extremely rare due to their philosophy plus the Luka Sene hunted down Dark Sided Miraluka.
Don't forget jerec, a male miraluka dark jedi who fought kyle katarn.
Actually I think a video on the Billars would be great, even though that picture of them in black and white looks nightmarish, their "group mind" is a really cool concept, and surely they aren't all hell creatures, that other picture with them fixing a starship makes them look rather normal even.
Also, it’s funny but even my Light Sith from SWTOR is absolutely hostile to the Killiks, a hive species he encounters. The idea that they make Joiners hit his berserker button in a huge way. When he saw what they did to Daria Thul and others, he totally went KILL IT WITH FIRE. Light in that it was concern for others that started his fury and Dark that he was NOT handling matters peacefully one bit. (Plus as player I couldn’t hit the DS button fast enough. Seriously, “Light Side” to leave her as a mind-slave? FUCK. THAT.)
sure lets see the creepy pasta teddies from hell lmao!
Could you go over why some clones had custom markings and styles and some didn’t;
E.G : Waxer, Boil, Fives, Echo, Boost, Comet, Sinker, Jesse, Kix, Hardcase, Dogma and Tup all had custom markings even before becoming higher NCOs or Officers
Damit der Zuschauer sie von den anderen unterscheiden kann.
@ClicheDeathLord I’ve got a feeling that if they earn like a scout role they get to have custom markings
I think it started off as experimental, likely to make it easier to distinguish higher ranking clones from the regular rank and file but eventually became more widespread as a morale booster as well as to distinguish more specialized legions and units from one another.
@@CollinMcLean I’m not talking about the early stages, I’m talking about how some clones were just allowed to have custom marking even if they weren’t NCOs or Officers. I’m not talking about legions and shit
@@fn1709 I know... I'm saying it evolved into a morale booster for soldiers as they were given progressively greater freedom over how they customized their armor...
Why did it take me a good 5 minutes to figure out why this seems similar to another video you made.
8:55 why must you torment me with these things
Who’d ever want to recruit from the Senate? That hive of scum and villainy was too corrupt even for the noble Sith. Not even General Grievous looked for meatshields from the Senate’s ranks when he was recruiting them to protect his droids from the evil Jedi and he’d take just about anyone to become meatshields.
Long answer, intergalactic planetary racism...
Short answer: Beastie Droids
TLDR: only cool-looking species get to be Sith
No Hutt Sith when there are Hutt Jedi
I mean there were plenty of species that went for both sides???
Is it just me or would a Jiralhanae from Halo be execellent as Sith Warriors?
Imagine them acting as beserkers charging into the middle of battle, either duel wielding lightsabers or using a double-bladed lightsaber as they cut down Jedi in a near suicidal rage fueled charge...
I'd say that they're oversized zabraks, so yeah, definitely on the Sith's recruitment list if they're in the SW universe.
Jiralhanae, Sangheli, Kig-Yar, and San Shyyuum would all make suitable darks siders.
Darth Smith: "So, who shall we recruit as our next apprentice?"
Darth Jones: "How about that teddy bear over there?"
Darth Smith: "You know, I have to seriously question your selectment criteria, Dude."
Am I the only one who stands up and salutes immediately when I hear "attention! Sergeant on deck" ?
Palpatine be like: Recruit you! Id rather be thrown down a mine shaft or a reactor!
Camaasi: clinically cynical alcoholic lemur version of Bernard from Black Books.
Didn't see that coming...
PS wild lemurs very cute but they're also the reservoir species for yersinia pestis medievalis. If one looks dizzy or disoriented don't give it a hug. You'll end up starring in your own personal "House" episode.
Lol love that Ki-adi-Mundi was the most sith-like Cerean. Also I bet Palpatine hated being the apprentice of a non-human sith?
FOR THE REPUBLIC!
if you go by the name of the Sith Order, the original human jedi that got exiled and eventually made it to Korriban became the Dark Lords of the Sith. They are the rulers of the original Sith species. That is why the Sith order has always been pro human. The 12 Dark Jedi exiles had to use Sith alchemy that they learned from the Sith species to be able to mate with the ancient Sith and eventually a new hybrid race happened which was part original Sith and part human descendant from those 12 dark jedi. This all comes from the old Tale of the Jedi comics if I remember correctly.
At the time of the old Sith Empire they would recruit anyone with force sensitivity! It was a forced recruitment. Getting an army of Demon Tedy Bears was fair game!
Love to see this video redone after Mando Season 2. Weren't those all phase 3 dark troopers?
full Billar video
The ithorians are great Force healers of the corporeal & non corporeal varieties. The Ithorian, Chodo Habat, helped heal a small portion of Force connection to the Exile, Mitra Surik. (However you spell her name)
I don't know exactly what it says about me that when I clicked on this video, I immediately thought of Zeltrons.
A sociopath like Ki Adi Mundi could definitely have become a Sith.
Forgetting to mention the species with limited receptivity to the force again means I now have the mental image of a toydarian sith lord and you can't stop me.
Story of the evil teddy bears, yes please
It feels like if a kaminoa tried to do a jedi flip their limbs would break ^^; They are a species i can't see moving faster than a half hearted jog.
Idk why but while watching adds before the video i thought of something.
If geonosians are hive minded and birthed by a queen, and a few happen to come out a force user, would that not mean the queen would have some abilities in the force?
After all it would explain how their hiveminded mantality works as that could be psychic powers via the force
Love that line in the description
Yeah give us a video on the Billars
Sith: No pacifist species allowed!
Pacifist species: Thank you for discriminating against us!
Young anakin: are you here to free me from slavery
Qui gon gin: of course my young child
Anakin: thank you jedi!
Qui gon: call me 'master' jedi lol
Shout out to the script writer!
Thats why no sith ever want to mention Darth Vectivus lol
Damn a sith Bilar would be pure nightmare fuel.
9:09 I think a species like the Geonosians would've made amazing sith IF they recruited a Queen as the first, and had the queen taught her subjects, it could end up like a better version of the Old Sith Orders because due to being the same species and ESPECIALLY due to the hive-mind connectivity, in-fighting would've likely been HIGHLY unlikely, thus solving that problem without needing the Rule of 2, but would've required a Sith to want to teach a queen Geonosian or something of the sort.
What if the Jedi and Sith recruited Geonosian queens? Because they rule the hive and would a force sensitive queen make all of her offspring force sensitive as well? That would make for a cheap Jedi or Sith army.
Bugs can't be force sensitive
This is where Star Wars kind of falls apart. The Sith, embodiment of greed, violence, and passion, tend towards creatures less inclined towards harmony, justice, and empathy. But certain aliens are biologically less social-oriented, which the above traits help to promote. They are selfish and violent because circumstance made it less beneficial be altruistic; thus acting more “Sith”. Is it fair to condemn them when they are acting partially on biology? Most of the species listed in this video are shown to be kind, peaceful, and altruistic-“good.” But their morality, which, in truth, is largely for the benefit of society, doesn’t apply to naturally egocentric aliens. Jedi, as “guardians of peace and justice,” serve only those equipped with a sense of social order.
This doesn’t discard Sith tendencies of deliberate cruelty, but it does encompass greed and one’s willingness to elevate oneself at the detriment of others. Thus the Force has to reconcile somehow the fact that altruism and pacifism-key light side traits-are not moral at all, and that ego is not amoral. Within this context, the purest form of Bogan must only be the embodiment of deliberate cruelty. This what the will of the Force is ultimately against. Sheev Palpatine’s aim of increasing his own power, while condemned by human nature, ultimately does not matter to the Force.
Who would be the Star Wars equivalent of the Joker?
If you’re looking for a DS Kel Dor, SWTOR gives us Tol Braga.
In legends you have also Verpines and shard.
Beyghor Sahdett was a verpine jedi master. They could be force sensitive
An Iron Knight is a ligthsider quasi jedi ...
A Verpine Sith lord know as "The grim reaper" will be an hell of character , but he didn't exist...
Bilars plz
Here comes another demon bear nitemare thanks Geetslys!
YES!! GIVE US MORE OF THE BILARS, THOSE CURSED BEARS FROM THE 100 ARCE WOOD OF HELL!!! 😂
If they where sociopathic then they would have anger isssues as it is a part of the mental disorder...he might have ment to reference the blank slate personality of a psychopath.
I misheard undesirable to unbizarrable.
@1:25 it no mystery, they thought sith pure bloods were the shit too and they intermingled with the dark jedi humans
Ah ithorians, so peaceful. Especially the Mayor of that town in Boba fet, ordering the Tuscan raiders to be wiped out. blaming it on a biker gang, and trusting the pike syndicate.
I am individuslist...i am Sith.
Geestly features bilars to give me nightmares
A Voss sith would be cool to see
Darth Bane's; 'Rule Of Two' had a major flaw. If Both died then that's it. He really was foolish. The Sith of The Old Republic were the true embodiment of Sith in my opinion.
love...for life?
BUT LOVE IS FORBIDDDDDDEN!
Yes
YEAH ! MORE PLEASE ! This was Great !
I am Darth Jawa - Bow to me so i can look you in the eye :D -> That would be hilarious to watch.
I’ve been looking forward to this
as a Sith Mandalorian i will have every race serve in my army to rule the galaxy those that dont will have a one male and one female of the race forced to watch as every other member of their race and every planet they ever called home destroyed all will bow or only those loyal to me will live once we have one galaxy we shall move on to the next
If the hive Minded species had a queen/brood mother that was aligned with the dark side would all members of the hive be dark siders
Caamasi reminds me of the chozo from metroid.
7:13 Jainism
We never saw them use klingons either!
4:43 "scumbag Ki-Adi-Mundi" lmao, am I missing something?
There's a whole video about him too. Dude sucks.
The sith detest hive minds i didn't know that.
Most definitely want a video of nightmare teddies
Gamorrean Sith Lord needs to happen
yes make a video of the bilars
I always wanted to see harch species as jedi
Imagine a Sith Ewok or for that a Sith Gungan.