ALTERNATIVE Shifters for Gravel & Bikepacking
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- In this Cave of Bad Ideas we explore alternative ways to get a budget mullet drivetrain. / pathlesspedaled
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Great idea using friction shifters to take advantage of a wide-range cassette at low cost! Taking things in the other direction, you can use friction shifters to go back to 2x8 or 9 speed drivetrain. I use this setup on my touring bike. The thicker chain and cogs last much longer. And the wider space between cogs makes them easier to clean when you are on the road. Not the sportiest setup, but it's great if you want a very durable bike.
I like the cave of bad ideas
Agreed. The subtle plugs got me laughing
I've recently discovered Microshift shifters for Shimano internal geared hubs. I got rid of the my trigger shifter and my twist shifter converting to the greatly simplified Microshift lever shifter. Microshift is definitely onto something with the concept of making simple equipment that takes up as little space on the handlebar as possible and simply works well.
Friction is the answer to all shifting problems.
I have a vintage touring bike with the original group set ,friction down tubes shifters and run a 10 speed cassette with no problem
Yup, Yup! A little known secret is anything works with anything with friction. No more specific or proprietary parts. It works with a bent derailleur or banged up hanger. It works until your cable breaks or the changer tears off the frame.
The biggest deal is 'learning' to shift again. Not really a big deal.
Then again I'm getting old and reverting to my childhood. Singlespeeds are
my favorite bike's these days!!
The cave of bad ideas is actually a great idea! Wonderfully choreographed with the throw back video quality, and humorous. Kudos to you!
Thanks for the content on the gravel bikes, I am trying to sort out what options are out there for a new build I am looking at doing.
Love this Russ. You have tons of unique content, from a unique perspective, which is so hard to find these days!!
I've ridden 10spd friction with a 1982 thumb shifter on the bar and it works great. Friction is awesome for the home mechanic.
I'm a professional shop mechanic and I dig friction shifters. Mostly bar cons.
Since Ive got to wrench everyday at work, my customer's overly complex 'modern' bikes, with excessive gears use up most of my patience.
I'd much rather ride than wrench!
Russ, you are doing Wath we call "REAL LIFE" here at my country!
Best Regards from Brasil man!
On My budget Gravel Budget Mullet I have Dura-ace Bar-end shifter 10 spd, shimano 36-11 cassette, Sram x5 deraileur. I run it friction and have no troubles whatsoever even when competing in races. Love this run of videos Russ!
wait you can't do friction on the 10s DA bar-ends I didn't think?
I love my thumbies, I've been adding them to my bike packing rigs for the last 3 years. Infinite adjustable gearing!
Nice video, all I had was friction shifting till about 1985 when I got my first 6 speed with indexed shifting and I immediately loved it-but I do still like the idea of total control of all shifts including up and down the cassette as fast as I like and mix and match components to my liking- just a great idea with unlimited possibilities-THANK YOU
Cave of bad ideas has been so fun. I love sittin in my tiny garage and workin on stuff. This is great inspiration for more fun times... seriously would like a stand like this now.
Thanks for being willing to explore! Love this series.
Great. Very interesting. Regarding bar-end shifters. Back in the day we would cut an inch off the end of the bars before fitting the shifters. Just to clear the knees. 👍
I've been riding with Gevnalle/ original RetroShift setup for years on a monster cross setup with 10 speed XTR and love them. The ability to run friction has bailed me out a couple times during some early Spring muddy rides.
I have no idea what's going on in this cave of bad ideas. But I'm entertained. And dude, what's wrong with your back wheel? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Thanks for that honest plea for >>microshift
Having recently inherited a 3x8 City bike that I want to convert from straight bar to drop, I was having trouble figuring out what kind of shifters to use. This video was very informative to that end, thank you!
Oh it's a wonderful feeling when you achieve complete drivetrain emancipation! The Gevenalle brifters come in a non-indexed versio ntoo. They are not cheap, but are a nice way to put friction shifters on a modern bike frame. They are not as ergonomically awesome as Shimano/SRAM brifters, but they do allow you to keep hands on the hoods. Another brilliant video! Thanks!
This 80's intro is great man. Keep up this series. It's great addition to the channel 👌👍
Thx for your great videos, made me Upgrade my 90‘s mtb to a gravel bike with microshift friction shifter derailer and 11-42 cassette. Keepern the good work😃👍🏾
great video series! my life is a cave of bad ideas, and therefore my rigged up clunker of a bike is as well! i tried a bunch stuff like this and ultimately ended up landing back on more of a common 2x10 setup, but with mismatched components. a lot of this experimentation comes from trying to make my bike do stuff it wasn't designed to do... but ultimately i now have a more functional creature for how i ride.
Your video and editing skills, which were always good, just keep getting better. Adding that to content I love is a delight. Carry on.
I like how much effort you put into your videos, good job!
Great video! Definitely looking to friction shifting for upcoming bike build. Thanks for the great content!
Love the research. Having just started using the Gevenalle 10 speed shifter myself, I like how it can be used with up to a 50t cassette. Love all the videos, now about that rear wheel.... lol.
I appreciate your qualifier at the beginning of the video. And LOVE the video series title. AND 11 sp chains are wicked thin and friction shifters will place more friction and thus damage to the chain. With that said this config could be great for speccing a bike for snow travel or short term usage.
That's awesome. If I ever leave 2x10 I'll look at the microshift setup! I love the microshift thumbies on my VO piolet. Amazing how there is nothing rapid about "rapid fire" shifters, which I started using in 1992.
Yes! Thanks for covering the bar-end shifter. I've read a little about the Microshift and have been curious about them. Trying to figure out what I want to do to my "trail designated" Bike Friday. With no front derailleur, I have been considering my options to get a lower gear range. Hmmm...more research to do. :-)
Great video--very useful. I've just purchased a 2x11 microshift to run a 2x11 XT setup on my gravel bike (repurposed single speed 29er from 2011). Looking forward to riding it and I might go without running indexing!
😁 Now this is fun bike nerdery. Have a vintage bike project and definitely feel good about the friction options with modern ratios to keep it a bit more authentication. Thanks
Russ, that was a well done and informative video. Thumbs up! And now a comment, if I may. I've recently noticed a troubling trend among the hosts of TH-camr bike and guitar channels I enjoy. That is, the host feels understandably compelled to respond to the snarky and/or critical comments by a few know-it-all commentors/trolls. (I am obviously not speaking about respectful questions, comments, or differences of opinion). Here is my free advice (worth every penny) as a fan of you and your channel . . . . don't. It only encourages the negative minority to continue that behavior. It also has a subtle corrosive effect, to this viewer at least, on your usually pleasant affect. Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to you and Laura.
It is a death by a million paper cuts.
After I commented, I realized it was pretty easy for me to offer my unsolicited, free advice. I'm not the one who has to deal with the gratuitously snarky comments about my hard work. Hang in there!
@@PathLessPedaledTV I get that you have to deal with all that. But FWIW even as a regular viewer, I often don't notice any negativity, since it is quite hard to read all the comments on the video, things get pushed down and following a conversation is not the easiest. Also, I'm not on a lookout for it. And I do scroll through the comments.
Keep up the great work.
@@jakubpu I get notified of all comments so I am constantly bombarded with it.
@@PathLessPedaledTV Russ, I suspect people like me are the majority: we love your content, rarely comment, and don't even notice the snarky or negative comments. They are the white noise and your content and quality easily overcome them.
Thx for your great videos, made me Upgrade my 90‘s mtb to a gravel bike with microshift friction shifter derailer and 11-42 cassette. Keep up the good work😃👍🏾
Great info here. Would love to see some of these on the road. Curious to the ease of shifting.
Nice show and tell video - you show how it works and tell it like it is. My personal thoughts are that, for touring, the bar end shifter would swing it for me as it would be less likely to get damaged in a crash and looks lie it would give an easier shift when things get a bit dirty. I have a 3 x 9 set up on one bike and a new 1 x 11 on the other. Definitely going to look up the wolf thingy to get more out of the 1 x 11 - thanks, great video.
I really like the intro it new and funny!! The more you make videos in the cave of bad ideas the more desired it is to see more videos
Keep up the good work man, this is outstanding content!
Great video, super helpful, some Rivendell Silver Shifters are in my future!
Dude, you have no rear tire. Dont ride your bike like that!
Russ... bro... this guy is right, but I noticed something else. You have no front wheel. Look, I know you're not a mechanic but bro... this is not a good setup for touring. I don't mean to hate, but... please... take care...
That is the most advanced unicycle design.
SQUIRREL
Bilbo736 Its ok! My buddy's rim then tire failed on a big ride far from help. He kept riding, by the end, only the strip of rim where spokes attach was left! But we finished our ride! Albeit, slowly.
Wheels kept rolling. Take care of them.
Focus maintenance on chain, tires and wheels. 3 most important parts on the bike. Learn it,live it!
Great video Russ! I always thought I was the only one running friction shifters ( did not even know the name ) until I found your channel. =D
Been loving these videos!!!
Great episode! I have been considering the Microshift 11sp for a while and it is good to know what pairings work. In your SRAM Eagle testing one thing I have experimented with is the NX Eagle using the stock MTB shifter with the Paul Components 31.8 adapter to mount it near the stem in a drop bar setup. It is functional but perhaps not elegant, but bar end shifters require a reach as well, so it may be a similarly decent solution.
You call it Bogging, … I call it Component Interchangeability Alternatives (CIA). In any case, I am really enjoying all this Testing that you are doing. Because I am building a gravel bike based on the SOMA Wolverine and that is because of the video you made. Thank you. I also am into modifying old bikes that I have. And what I mean by modifying bikes is I can make parts lighter by machining off material and or making parts for adapting brakes when you want to go with bigger tires, etc.
Long live the cave of bad ideas 😀
I have 22 bikes running everything from Sora to Dura Ace and Altus to XT. MicroSHIFT works perfectly and is affordable. In fact, I just finished a build using the 11sp Arsis groupset and it shifts as good as my Ultegra 6800 (they are Campy style). I also have a few of their MTB shifters and derailleurs on a few builds and they've been rock solid. I had an old set of Ulegra 9sp brifters that needed replacing and the microSHIFT R9's shift flawlessly. The R7, R8 and 9's are great alternatives for replacing old Shimano brifters. Running R7's on a 1989 GT Avalanche drop bar conversion--still using the original Deore mech and chainset.
Nice video Russ! Let me show my age. Back in the 1970's when I started biking seriously there was only friction shifting, either down tube or bar end. With practice it is just as precise as indexed with the advantage of being able to make huge jumps (not a great idea but....). I didn't convert my road bike to index shifting until 2009 and I must say I love my shimano 105 brifters. With friction there should be no difference between a 10 or 9 or 11 or.....etc. cassette since the horizontal distance from lowest to highest is the same. With your lead I will try my vintage (used to be called old) barend shifters on a 10 speed cassette. I am confident it will work since there is only 5mm -or so- difference in the horizontal distance on the 5 to 7 speed freewheel (less) compared to a cassette. Also, there have been flared handlebars since I began riding, they used to be called randoneur bars. These were popular with tourists, or randoneurs😃. What I don't like about bar end shifters is having to move to and from them all the time....down tube shifters were better, or more natural, and brifters rule (in my opinion). For world tours nothing beats simplicity but in the developed world a bit more complex technology is not a killer criterium. I have been least happy with SRAM's double tap shifting on the Apex that came with my Kona Rove. Shimano has the better tech in drive trains....but that is a belief argument or just my opinion (I'll bet this also gets comments.....🤪...they'll give me something to laugh at). Merry Christmas!
Hi mate, great channel content 👍🏻I use campy downtube shifters on my 531 steel gazelle (1985) on 10 speed with a deore rear!!! Like the look of the. Microshift barend unit. 👍🏻🚴🏽🏴🏴
Thanks for this video! Have been contemplating bar end shifters for a while now. I've had so many bad experiences with my STI shifters in the past. They never seem to last longer than a year or so (Ultegra, Tiagra or 105) before I get inconsistent and annoying shifts. I live in hilly Ireland where frequent shifts are normal. Maybe that's why, but still very disappointed with Shimano shifters.
I have one of those Microshift barcons and a $40 Amazon Warehouse deal SRAM Apex 1 rear derailleur. Really good combo currently friction shifting a Shimano 9 speed HG-400 12-36 cassette.
I absolutely love my 10 speed gevenalle shifters on fiction. Couldn't quite get the indexing just right and gave up. Went to friction and never looked backed. Have ridden like that 2 seasons and have yet to have a problem with it.
Your becoming the Victor Frankenstein of bikes Russ, love it 👍
That’s “Frankensteen”.
Intro music starts -> instant thumbs UP!
Great informative videos. Keep it up!
Nice Russ :). I am building surly troll frameset with drop bars. I think the microshift bar end will be good
More than 3 minutes into the video and you are still giving disclaimers... Damn you internet for not letting ya boi do his thing and bless us with pure content!
Hey Russ, I have a suggestion for an economical dual control lever, 11-50t "mullet" drivetrain that should work without exceeding any components specifications, requiring any cable pull adapters, derailleur hanger extenders, or b screw funny business!
Shifter: Microshift SB-M110. This is Microshift's dual control "trekking" lever. The product description says it is designed for Microshift or Shimano 11 speed mtb derailleurs.
Derailleur: Box Two 11 speed X-Wide Cage. This derailleur is designed for use with an 11-50t cassette, like the Sunrace one you have. It says in the FAQ section of the product description that if you use a Tanpan, it is compatible with Shimano drop bar road levers. That means it uses the same pull ratio as Shimano mtb derailleurs and should be compatible with the SB-M110!
I currently use old suntour micro ratcheting friction bar ends with an Old Deore derailleur with a 10 speed 11-30 cassette without issue. Just picked up a gently used set of Dura Ace 10 speed bar ends and a Dura Ace 10 speed derailleur to match. Might try a wolfstooth to increase cassette size.
Nice vid Russ! Hope you're not getting bogged down by all the bike nerd comments. You're doing an awesome job. Love the channel, keep it up!
I just picked up some of the microSHIFT Centos shifters. really liking them. I only used to friction shifting before
I finished a build last month with Arsis 11 speed groupset with FSA chainrings on a steel touring bike. It runs as good as my Ultegra 6800. Been running various microSHIFT components for a few years now and really like them.
@@pastagreyhound I've been nothing but impressed. I thought I had a problem with front shifter at first but turns out whoever put my new chain on didn't press the pin all the way through so it was having trouble getting to the big chainring. fixed the chain and works beautifully. really dig the campy style layout too
You always crack me up , you do let people wind you up.
Like! Like! Like! You are doing great stuff. Only channel I clicked the bell for.
I've worked on various mullet setups for drop bar conversions on my fatbike, and mtb drivetrains on my gravel bike. So far the best budget solution I have found is simply a Paul 31.8 shifter clamp, and either a microshift indexed shifter of choice, or a MTB sram trigger shifter mounted to the paul clamp.
Then you can pair this with a Sunrace cassette of your choice, and a wolftooth goatlink if you want.
Dr Cowan Frankenbike has got a mullet D.T. that consists of Tiagra 10s brifters, 11-42 sunrace cassette, Deore 10s RD and a wolftooth tanpan to make it all work. The good Dr. also runs with an 36t oval wolftooth N/W chainring.
A good argument can be made for friction shifters.. might be more reliable, in winter you don't want mechanical issues
I enjoy underbiking with a 'dirt tourer' and ride most trails Id ride with my hardtail. I just ride way longer, slower and usually with luggage of some sort. Quick get offs and banging around in rocks can easily tweak indexing. Friction shifting suffers no such problems! I dont miss indexing since my dura ace bar ends clicks wore out!
I run 9 speed Gevenalle road shifters no problem with a 10 speed 11-36 cassette on my road bike and run in friction more than index. Microshift makes solid shifters and imo they are as good as the big names.
Really impressed with microshift advent 9 speed wide range 11-42, derailleur , and barcon
Yeah. Would love to see a 46t or try it with the Box Prime 9.
for the record I managed to use a 1990's Ritchey friction shifter (with modified stops as it was probably a six speed shifter!) to throw an entire 12sp NX Eagle cassette using an XT 11sp derailleur with unusual success!
viva la friction! ;-)
I've been running an old xt 7spd in friction with a 10 speed cassette for several years. Never had an issue. Shifter cost 10 bucks which works for me. No GCN money here...
Just a comment on the bar end shifters, I've got a bike built by my Dad in 1977 and it has bar end shifters. It doesn't at all hit my knees, and it has the old school (no flare) handle bars.
The mid and high level Microshift stuff is pretty nice. Microshift as a whole doesn't seem to get much notice, probably because fighting against Shimano & SRAM's marketing budget is a bad idea so they don't bother. A few 2020 gravel bikes have it equipped OEM so hopefully will see it used more as a viable alternative groupset.
I use Dura Ace 8 and 9 spd bar ends that are so old the indexing is worn out. I use anything from 6-10 speed and theyre wonderful. Im Using a 9 speed chain on old 7 speed Sun Tour XC pro cranks to get better front shifting with either 2 or 3 chainrings. Narrower gaps work better for me on the cassette. Everything shifts super smooth. Friction ALWAYS WORKS with whatever parts. This gives you the most reliability and accessibility to spares anywhere your travels take you.
I'll probably try Rivendell's shifters when I build up a drop bar mtb.
Interesting stuff. I am only using my fatbike Surleys for the adventure biking, but cool ideas for a drop bar bike.
Never liked bar-end shifters because of the knee spiking issues. You can get a thumb shifter mount though, SJS do them (as do the Chinese copycats) Little bit of hacking to get them to fit on drops but possible (I've never tried, just anecdotally). Great content as always Russ!
OMG people can't just watch a video and see a bike on a bike stand and think that's not the finished product his just wrenching so I'll just leave it be.... They're probably the 6 people who thumbed down the video..... Relax people, it's just a video on trying to figure things out. Sit back, relax and enjoy and unwind a little if that's possible hahaha
Dude you can’t ride a bike like that, it’s on a stand! 🤪
If I'd go back to friction shifting (which I always liked better than mechanical index shifting) on any bike with a round steel downtube I'd get a downtube shifter. Dropping the right hand straight down to the shifter always felt so natural.
This video is great! I've been pondering how to cheaply and easily get lower gears on a 1x touring bike build I am planning and was going to settle for Shimano GRX with an 11-46 cassette and an aftermarket chainring but this would seemingly allow me to run a Shimano crankset with a Sram rear derailleur which is what I would really like to try but didn't think it was easy without some expensive gadgets to convert the pull ratios. Only thing I am still confused about is which bar-end shifters actually work for 11-speed friction shifting, I've been trying to find the Microshift shifter you are using on their website but the only 11-speed bar-end shifter they currently have is listed as index-only so I don't think it is the exact same model. Can anyone confirm that their 10-speed shifters work with 11-speed cassettes or know of other bar-end shifters which work with 11-speed cassettes and are friction shift?
Microshift looks like a fantastic option. Wish it was sold in the UK
Thank you!
There's another type of shifter that a lot of folks seem unaware of: The wing shifter, aka suntour command shifter, aka Dia Compe ENE Wing shifter. These are ultra compatible and I use them on a couple bikes and actually prefer them to the rather nice campy 11 ergo shifters on my other bike. The only catch is that the Dia Compe ENE version which is 11s is a bit pricey still. On the plus side it has that ratcheting style action like older Simplex Retrofriction and Suntour Powershifters. I tend to use the old Suntour Command shifters off ebay cuz they're cheap, but if I had a newer 11 speed+ bike like this one I'd buy one single Dia Compe ENE Wing Shifter and have at it! A nice feature is that you can shift from the hoods, the hooks OR the tops which is actually more than typical STI type brifters. Also, they work with EVERYTHING being friction.... I think if you give them a shot you'll be a convert, hopefully more folks will know about them and bring the price down!
Russ you rock !
I have the original Retro-Shifts before they changed their name to Gevenalle. Will never use mainstream brifters again! I currently have Dura-Ace bar-end shifters on them now. That's the great thing about the design, is that you can mount any bar-end (technically downtube, as you remove the plug mounts) shifter. That Microshift 11spd bar-end shifter you tested could have been mounted on the Gevenalle for your test. I even put bar-end shifters on my flat bar bikes using a Paul thumb mount.
That’s exactly what I did in the next vid in the series.
On my quiver-killer I'm running the Microshift 12 speed barcon in friction with an eagle derailleur and e13 12 speed 9-46 cassette (32t chainring and 27.5x2.2 tires if you're curious). Not budget unfortunately, but friction with 12 speed works really well. Setting up the shifter to work indexed was very finicky and never seemed to shift properly across the cassette, but friction is so much easier. The hardest part for me was learning the muscle memory to shift in small increments, especially when going onto larger cogs.
Another option that looks good is the Microshift Advent group, 9 speed 11-42. Unfortunately, it requires a trigger shifter and I haven't seen anything about compatibility with friction shifters, but if it could work I think could be a very solid budget drivetrain.
You can friction shift the Advent group. Hoping they come out with a 11-46 in 9spd.
Love the video, would be interesting in seeing how the Eagle NX performs as I have a regular GX & it's hard to find sub-compact(46/ 30) road doubles in a GXP mount in a 170 or 172.5 crank length. Maybe swapping rear cassette from 38t to 42t or if possible 46t w/ road link be the cheaper option.
Hey Alex,
Is there a reason you want/need a gxp crankset with these specs? Is your frame BSA threaded? There are a couple variables at play, and without knowing the model&make&year of your bike I can't give 100% specific advice, but it should be pointed out that GXP isn't a bb shell standard, it's a crank spindle standard that requires matching bb cups (or a bb cup standard that requires matching cranks, same same). The vast majority of GXP bb cups are in bikes with English BSA 68 (road) or 73mm (MTB) bb shells (the shell is a part of the frame itself as opposed to the bottom bracket cups which are threaded into the frame). A BSA threaded frame with gxp bb cups is compatible with non gxp cranksets with a simple swap of the bb cups. All pressfit frames are likewise not gxp exclusive, since they use adapters or a set of adapting cup/bearings to accommodate a gxp crankset. Swapping press in cups and/or bearings will likewise allow you to use a different crank standard. Unless you have some hideously expensive bottom bracket (be it threaded or press fit) that you absolutely want to use( or can't afford to replace), and as long as you can afford a different set of bb cups, you shouldn't have to limit yourself to gxp cranksets. Gxp is a dying standard that has been replaced in the Sram universe with DUB. GXP has well documented shortfalls and you're not likely to see many, if any, new sub compact cranksets that are gxp (unless Sram themselves decides to release them). What bike model,make, and year do you have?
@@MrKipperfish it's a threaded bb & I'm running rival gxp compact crank in the front. I ride a Soma Wolverine so it should be able to handle both road & mtb cranks. Was thinking sram x9 42/28 crank as it comes in gxp & 170mm. Or I could go x9 in a 1x 32t setup in gxp. Thank you.
Russ you need wear a cave of bad ideas shirt while testing your setups. Then you could sell such shirts to buy all the components you want to test.
Great video , but my question is why ? What benefits does this give vs brake shifting which is so clean and easy ?
did you just say, out sprint Mark Cavendish XD. love you your videos man
I have to assume anyone saying friction doesn't work well beyond 9sp hasn't tried it. It's so simple and smooth I can't find a single downside to it. I've been touring on 11sp friction for a year after 5 years of 10sp friction. It makes my driverain last longer as my hand and brain can shift much better than a klunky index
I put a 10sp Gevenalle set on my Giant Revolt and I only run it in friction, road or dirt, that’s how much I love it’s performance. I wouldn’t put friction on my dedicated road bikes tho’.
Too many Armchair Quarterbacks on TH-cam.
~Thank you for you perseverance.
I like the shape of the saddle, can you tell me what kind it is. Great video. I watch all of them.
Brooks c15.
nice intro!
I think even with friction shifting one has to consider cable pull/derailleur shift ratio - you might simply run out of range when you try to use e.g. old-school Shimano-compatible 8 or 9 speed friction shifter with a SRAM or Shimano 12 speed system derailleur - of course it depends how large the margins in the friction shifter actually are, but this might be just too much.. Need to check what your impressions were when trying this with an NX shifter. I'm considering using Microshift XLE 11 speed briefters with tried-and-trusted Shimano SLX M7000 11sp. derailleur, but these briefters seem to be outrageously expensive. On my other pseudo-gravel bike I'm running 1x11 with Sensah Empire and my old Shimano XT M8000 11speed derailleur (that I filed down quite a bit + swapped the cable attachement side to make it work with 3.1mm cable pull of the briefter, rather than 3.4mm (or maybe even 3.6mm?) of Dynasys11). Nice part re-use it was.
I dunno if anyone pointed it out yet... But there's no tire on your wheel and that masking tape won't hold up well if you're out on a tour. While you can ride a bike with no tire on the wheel it's not very good for the wheel and it's harder to stop and you can't drive as fast. Take care. Don't forget to wear your helmet either.
I like the idea of alternative shifters in terms of barends etc but personally I feel like the shifter on those Gevenalle levers would get in the way.
so can I suggest butterfly shifters? There are some very pretty ones made by dia-compe that I would like to get mostly because I like having the aero option of dropbars, but most of the time I am on the flat part of the bar, so I rather install flatbar shifters rather than brifters, but thumbies and trigger ones take up too much of the available space.
Take SLX 11sp shifter, cut off clamp. Take 31.8mm seatpost clamp, drill out threads, notch with file to match profile of shifter. Mount seatpost clamp next to stem on 31.8mm bars, place SLX shifter against notch in seatpost clamp, run longer 4mm bolt thru seatpost clamp into threads on SLX shifter and tighten. Drink a beer. You now have an all-Shimano 1x11 mullet drivetrain on your drop bar bike. 🍻
Only downside is that you have to move your hand off the hoods to shift, but you have to do that with bar end shifters too. After running it on my Surly LHT for the last two years, it hasn't been an issue at all. Feels very comfortable. Minimal learning curve. 🍻
You should have been able to move the thumb shifter from the bar-end mount to the Gevenalle to have indexed 11-speed shifting.
Yeah. Did that in another video.
I tried the Retroshift (Gevenalle) road shifters with a Dyna-sys rear derailleur.... Your exact setup in the video. Worked ok in the work stand but as soon as you put it under load the spring tension on the rear derailleur was too strong and kept shifting its self to the smaller gears.
try tighten up the main bolt a little bit, which increase the friction inside shifter mechanism and that can hold up more spring tension from the rear derailleur to shift
Aldo Arredondo I tried 2 different sets of 10 speed Microshit bar ends and they didnt work, similar issues to yours. I switched to old worn Dura Ace shifters on friction, no problems at all! Shifts awesome. With modern rings and cassettes, friction works great, as long as you know how to shift and not force it.
Hey do you put your bartape before a bar end shifter? You start over it or you put your tape inside the tip of the bar before installing the shifter? Thanks!