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@@jttcosmosI stand corrected and deleted my comment, I guess I commented too early haha. To be fair I think it deserves more than 10 seconds at the very end. I have both the locking and non-locking/wireless charging Peak Design 1” ball mounts which are pretty cheap comparatively, has built in vibration dampening, and I can easily swap between my motorcycles/bike/cars which all have existing ram mount setups. The case is also 👌🏻 (they have some cool accessories like wallets and stands etc if you’re into that) Also, not to ignore the most important part, mounting and dismounting is almost completely frictionless. I’m not an influencer/ambassador, just truly love good design and love their product which I bought with my own money. I was pleased to see that it also performed the best (according to their test metric anyway)
@@spacecruisersI did the same. When the PD case and mounts arrived I literally threw my phone at the mount and it locked itself on! Truly one handed release too! My old bedside wireless charger works with it. I got the car mounts that have the magnet without the latching anti-vibration motorcycle stuff.
As someone who does vibration analysis for work, I'd be interested in seeing the raw accelerometer data to see what ASD levels each mount produces, i.e. the frequency content of the measured vibrations
would it be possible to figure out the resonant frequencies of the parts that are responsible for broken optical stabilization? In practice would that just be done through testing and breaking a lot of phones?
I'm glad you took the time to update and repost this video. I wish you had included the available vibration dampers in the tests, they do cost more money but in the case of quadlock (which is the only one of these I have used), I was happy to buy the add-on to protect the well over $1000 phone I use it for and I would be interested in independent testing to see how effective it really is
Why would you spend $1000 on a phone and not expect it to withstand vibration? My $300 phone has handled 30,000 km of big thumper riding on a KTM, and the phone functions perfectly.
@@shhmule I'm glad you're happy with your $300 phone, mine has functions that yours does not, that is the nature of paying more money for things. Whether a flagship phone is necessary is another question. Actually my previous $1000 phone survived around maybe 10,000km on my DR-Z without the vibration damper too, much of it off road (and more crashes than I could count). But others had problems with the exact same phone, so I guess I was just lucky. I just bought the vibration damper for piece of mind.
The Peak Design moto mount has been bomb proof for me and a few others I ride with. And the cases are slick, protect the phone, and still keep a decent feel on the buttons. And it puts you into the RAM ecosystem. They really did nail it on their mounts.
Yes! The Peak Design Mobile line is awesome, I got a whole set of their mounts from the Kickstarter, then picked up a couple of the RAM ball attachments. Ridiculously secure.
Thanks for taking the feedback and updating. Although what I actually want to know is how well they do WITH the vibration damper. Cause anyone that is concerned about it is going to get that anyway
Hey! Cool video as always! I do have one question though: In some of the cuts of footage from the accelerometer tests, I can see that the accelerometer is attached directly to the phone mount. Wouldn’t it be a much more representative test, with perhaps a different outcome, if you attached the accelerometer to a phone on the phone mount? Feels to me like the added mass could quite significantly impact your vibration tests!
You could do some rough physics to estimate the size and weight of the phones from the size/weight of the accelerometer. There is a shred of hope that is what they were referring to in regards to having to do some math in the video. But I agree, Id like to know how that would change things.
Having used the RAM X-Grip across 3 iPhones on two Harley Davidson bikes over the years (and HD’s don’t vibrate at ALL 🙄), as well as my leisurely strolls on a Trek Verve 2, I can report zero phone damage over thousands of miles. I refuse to use a mount that requires a dedicated case.
Isn't that like one of the biggest issues with some of these mounts, the fact that if you use a non-popular phone you're pretty much screwed to not be able to use it at all?
@@sirskyrage they have soft case. Looks like bag and it's ok, gives better weather protection, and there is vice grip. I use both they are ok. I don't know how good they are with keeping your phone camera alive. My cat killed it first :P
Absolutely one of the best channels on TH-cam. The previous phone mount video is the only time I've ever seen overwhelmingly negative comments, and instead of just letting that slide you went and improved the video with math to backup your findings. I found the original video came off a lot like an SP connect advert, where is this one definitely comes off like an actual analysis of quality. Thanks to the team at Fortnine for continuing the unbelievable quality you've always had
Yeah, they portrayed people caring about SP Connect's lack of upfront nature about vibrations as being tinfoil hat wearers, and then provided a control for QuadLock but never showing it with the vibration dampener which is the other half of what so many comments asked for. Great job FortNine, you portrayed people who cared and commented as conspiracy nuts. So much respect for the community that thought you cared about details and good testing, as well as companies (SP Connect as an example) being upfront about vibrational damage and marketing claims (Quadlock as an example of a marketing claim that went fully untested).
I have the QuadLock with vibration dampener and wireless charger; I was hoping to see it tested 🤷🏼♂️ But yea, I guess that vibration dampener does such a good job so it wouldn't be fair to the others 🙃🤷🏼♂️
I use one of the RAM mounts and have not had any damage to my phones so far. I really like that it doesn't require any particular phone case (you can use your own or none at all) and the extra rubber "wings" are optional in normal street riding (just clamp it into the arms which takes only one second) and you can optionally strap it down if you're doing something rowdy. The flexibility in mounting is great, and you can do complicated or fancy stuff with multiple mounts if you're setting up a touring rig with other gear like map/GPS holders, cupholders, etc and everything interoperates.
@@MrSnowMen Namely, he dinged the QuadLock for something the SP Connect has too merely because QuadLock was the only one with a page emphasizing the importance. Furthermore, he took that good-faith information and used it against them, misrepresenting what was on the page by claiming the issue only affects QuadLock. I don’t have either and I will probably get the SP Connect anyway, but I was still one of the ones calling them out for it. How do you turn a positive into a negative?! Breaking: While I was writing this the video got to 6:49 where he again says that QuadLock’s page says that using a QuadLock on certain motorcycles can damage phones. The page says nothing of the kind. It says that the vibrations on certain motorcycles are known for damaging phones without some kind of vibration dampening whether they are in a QuadLock or not. It could even happen in a tank bag. It’s a shame they still didn’t fix this error.
Peak Design FTW. After scrutinizing options, and barely stomaching the price, I wouldn't consider anything else. The vibration damping, options for vehicle and home mounts, ease of mounting/unmounting, durability, and design are overall better than the other options...at a price. No issues running it on my Monster for the last year. I do like the RAM Mount ecosystem and still have one in my truck, needing to position my phone very carefully to avoid turning the volume all the way up. I wouldn't use one on my bike for all the reasons. Awesome video, but please do a full review on the Peak Design. I'd like to see what downsides you find.
agree 100% - I've had all 4 on trial here - the x-grip is great, as fits anything, but bulky and the rubbers will fail eventually - the sp-connect was fine, but I broke several and stripped the threads on the mounts (assume it's the pressed steel riv-but into alu) - the quadlock I first used many years ago, and was perfectly happy with, but the new mag-safe cases don't work with Apple's mag-chargers... it's a well discussed issue - 3rd party chargers seem to be o.k. ..... returned all my new mag-safe quadlock for a refund - then found Peak Designs.... the cases are a step above the SP & Quad, the mount is excellent, no twisting required, with the options e.t.c. being fantastic - recommend the peak design system
I was really looking forward after having upgraded my phone to buy a dedicated case with high quality mounts for the various vehicles... however I was quite disappointed to see that PD is still just "working on" a moto mount with built-in wireless charging... now that my phone comes with the capability I really do not want to mess around with cables everytime I put it on or take it off
I moved on to the Peak Design motorcycle mount (the one with the ball adapter) for my dual sport adventures and it's been the best mount I've had BY FAR. This coming from someone that has used Quad Lock, Ram X-Grip, and some no-name cheapo from Amazon. Seriously they nailed the design with their mounts and cases. You don't even have to think about attaching it to the mount it just snaps into place, and you can easily release your phone with one hand. Only time will tell about their motorcycle vibration dampener, but hey at least it's built in and they're not bending you over a barrel like Quad Lock.
The only problem I have with Peak Design is that their wireless charging mount is non locking. If they made a locking wireless charging mount for motorcycles I'd switch over from quad lock.
I agree with the smushy buttons on the QuadLock. However the new case for the iPhone 15 has very snappy button presses. In my personal anecdotal experience, from the three I've owned, QuadLock is improving their case design.
The Quadlock phone specific cases aren't a mandatory requirement either. This video, and the original, both seem to lean towards SP Connect with a bias. Portraying people who care about details and testing as being tinfoil hat nut people, and then also just glossing over the facts that Quadlock doesn't require specific phone cases, as well as actually having a vibration dampener (and then not testing it).
The only unfortunate fact for new 15 series Quadlack case is they don’t co-op well with any other brand for MagSafe charging, doesn’t matter it’s Apple or Apple certified ones. I mean the charging devices is not too bad from Quad lock, but I hate the fact they are not being clear upfront and took away my Possibilities to pick whatever I want.
but the buttons become better to press after some time. when i first got my quadlock case the buttons were really hard to press, after over a year it got way easier.
Experienced exactly the same switching from 13pro with magsafe case to the 15pro with the same case. It no longer works with 90% of my magsafe chargers except quadlocks.@@Agridoce0629
I love the Quad Lock, have them on my motorcycles, mountain bike, road bike, and cars. Crashed while riding on the track, and the phone stayed in place, same while mountain biking.
Still feels not very thorough. Would have liked to see peak designs properly included, would have liked to see vibration tests with the phones on the mounts, kind of pointless to test bare. Lots of details missed. Even though don’t like ram mount they have a new quick connect mount that is apparently good. Also new cases from all manufacturers have recently upped their game. It’s kind of like this is what a video from 2021 would be like if someone who didn’t know much about mounts would do. Would have liked to see what brand was easy to hook up to electrical also as that’s all over the place with costs and complexity.
I’m glad they added the peak design mount. I’ve been through a bunch of mounts and I (anecdotally) have found the PD to be the best. Easiest to mount/dismount, built in vibration dampener, and the case is actually pretty nice. It includes stronger magnets for MagSafe charging (adds magnets for android phones) and they offer accessories that work with the mount as well. It’s also the most elegant design using actual metal to the positive locking mechanism.
Not Tested: RAM Quick Grip - 100% phone retention, no required after thought rubber band of the RAM X-Grip, and doesn't require a specialized phone case so there's easy access to the buttons.
important thing for the RAM mount - for users of specific phones that have power/volume buttons in the wrong spot, the RAM mount squeezes on them and makes your phone unusable unless you reposition it weird. For that reason I use the QuadLock and im happy with it besides the fact that I don't know what wizardry it takes to put it on the mount with one, ungloved hand.
@@sys-administrator Yep Quick-Grip is the best, mine is on my dirt bike and I've jumped it, smashed into big ruts i didn't see in the shadows, pin-balled down rocky single track, hopped logs, you name it, it's never moved. Works with my phone in its bulky waterproof case and is the fastest/easiest to remove and replace the phone from, it's perfect, their X-grip however is terrible, I don't know why they still make it and don't know why it was in this review.
@@-TheRealChris Another vote for the Quick-Grip, it's the best, another thing to note is it lets you move the pins around to give access to your phones button layout and avoid unintentionally pressing them, unlike the X-grip.
You don't have to use the Quad Lock case, there are stick on thingies too. I don't mind the case though. It feels pretty tough without adding much bulk and the ring thing is useful for the 99.99% of the time that it isn't mounted to something. I think my favourite feature is that the common components are actually widely available and the less common parts ship quickly within Australia.
I use the quick grip as well. I don't worry about vibrations on my street bike that isn't a Harley. The main issue with it is that you need to readjust it for a different phone. This usually isn't an issue for most users.
@@KevinSmith-qi5yn Only if they have different button positions I suppose, and you can probably find a position for the side pegs that fits multiple devices. Only need one per side.
i flip the quick grip over, so that i push the phone down to insert it. This is easier, and does not push the sleep button my my pixel on the mount's side post when inserting!@@csn583
I have no idea why you guys used the old X-Grip and not the newer Quick Grip from Ram Mount. That said I can confirm that the Quick grip damaged not one but 3 iPhones before I clued into what was breaking the cameras. (Warrantied the phone) Funny enough my Yamaha FJ09 did not damage the phone but my DRZ did. Same mount was used on both bikes. I now live with a damaged iPhone 11 camera. Good news is that once broken it doesn’t get any worse.
Thanks as always chaps. Having used my Quad Lock for some years with no discernible damage to my camera I bought a damper anyway for only $25au and continue to be happy but with greater piece of mind. And definitely Zed...
I bought an X Grip because I don't have an Iphone and I couldn't find a case for the other mounts that require one. I was not much of a fan of the X Grip, because it's a bit of a pain to get the phone mounted up. I ended up buying the Quick-Grip phone mount they make and it's WAY better! Quick one hand install, grips hard, never came close to falling out. No idea how the X Grip gets so much attention. The lesser known mount is superior.
I love the X-Grip for its ease of use and quick attachment to any phone with any case, plus the wide range of Ram Mount accessories you can use it with. I use it on my DR650 and it has never let go of my phone, (and I don't even bother with the extra rubber holder), both on rough pothole filled roads, and dumping the bike while offroad and pretending to be riding a 250cc dirtbike. It has, however, killed the optical image stabilizer in two iPhones, so there definitely must be some decent vibration going on.
The iPhone is your problem. And how do you manage the RAM having rubber bands over the screen? It looks like they strap directly over where the Back and Apps buttons sit on the screen, so you'd have a hard time navigating thru menus.
It shouldn't matter. No sane person should be buying any product from someone whose entire marketing campaign is screaming as loud as they can while they throw things.
I have a cheap one by oxford, were you stick the second part just to your phone or the case you want to use and it works pretty good. No idea about vibrations though.
I’ve had a TackForm mount on my Africa Twin for years, never has my phone come loose or fallen off, lots of off-road riding and drops. Should do a review of that one.
I'm little disappointed that Peak Design and Mous Case still not make it to the test part of this remake video, they both have vibration dampening build in their mounts and their cases feels a lot nicer too
@@CKfaro They did test the Peak Design for the vibration accelerometer thing. It's the fourth in the list of their data shown. It's true they did not do a MTB run with it though. Still no love for the Mous case.
I bought a TACKFORM and can't recommend it enough. The vibration dambing is stock. Custom service is awesome as well. There is nothing to attach to the phone. The mount is incredibly secure.
The one thing missing is that with the Ram Mount X-Grip, you can attach it to you handlebar using an adjustable clamp that can mount to any handlebar. It also works with any phone regardless of make and what case you choose to use. For someone with multiple bikes and phones, the Ram Mount is the only option, and it actually works perfectly. Never lost a phone while using it.
If you accidentally splash a few drops of fuel on your quad lock while refueling, it will melt in about a minute, and your phone falls off. Ask me how I know 😕
Been using the ram mount for almost 8 years and never had any issues with vibration damage or screen visibility from shaking, plus its been compatible with the 3 different motorcycles I have had over the years as well as compatible with the different phones I have had. with the ram mount I can buy a less popular phone and not worry if the mount company is going to make a case for it. While I agree that the ram mount is a bulky solution that's not necessarily going work for everyone I think the video severely under values the high universal fit of the ram x mount along with under estimating the value of a buy it once and use it for 8 plus years solution the ram mount can be.
Having the SP-Connect with the regular vibration module(which you can just order here in the Netherlands BTW) I like it, it works well, simply, reliable, very adjustable.
Out the the couple I've tried and used, quadlock is by far the best, I added the ($25) vibration damper and I've never had an issue with camera damage. The buttons at least on all of the galaxy phones I've had have never felt mushy, they've always been super tight and snappy.
Man this video is so great on so many levels. The hilarious script, set, and props for the segment starting at 7:10. And I ever expected to see a reference to the great POWDERED TOAST MANNNNN in a TH-cam video!😂 Keep up the awesome work guys!
Normal, IL? That's one of the last things I expected in a video from FortNine. I grew up not far from there. Oh, and the video was awesome as usual. Keep up the quality work, fellas!
Thanks for the re-review, it didn't answer the issues I had, but at least it was a good follow up. And I hope the host didn't take it personally or get crap for it, I don't think it was really his fault and he is a good presenter.
Good job updating with new info. I use QuadLock, I don't think it should come standard with the vibration dampener. If it did, the overall cost would increase and you don't always need one. I have a mount in my car, mountain bike and motorcycle, I only need damping on my MC. I do prefer the look of the Peak design option, however, they don't offer wireless charging for the motorcycle yet. As I'm already into the QuadLock ecosystem it's unlikely I'll change.
This is a Canadian channel, perhaps it's $60 CAD which is sadly about $20 USD with all the exchange fees all the purchase platforms tend to add on for funzies. Also extra thumbs up for being the only person not using the incorrect term "dampening".
I used X grip in cars, but quick grips on motorcycles, quads, or anywhere the phone really needs to stay put. Yes the little rubber things can make the phone stay in the xgrip but its a PITA to use. My phone and my prior phone were in otter box cases, the big chonky ones, never had problems with vibration in 6 years of use.
I've used three out of the four. SP Connect was the only one who ever ejected my phone off road, and still needs a vibration damper. No reason to move off of quad lock at this point, though Peak Design is pretty interesting.
11:59 Can someone please explain to me how you can have (on average) 218% less of something? This would entail negative vibrations... The data itself is not intuitive either. Why are you comparing standard deviations as the main variables instead of averages? Why do you have one value of standard deviation even though you tested multiple RPM scenarios? What do the numbers and relations in the table actually mean? What is the test based on? That is excluding the million different variables that would change because you don't have a controlled environment. I really appreciate that the previous video was taken down and retested, but this still feels inadequate support.
I was also thinking that the amplitude may not be the killer for the camera, but rather the acceleration. (Or jerk/shock? I'm not up to date on my physics, I mean the force pulling stuff faster in a different direction than its inertia.) You could expect the higher the amplitude, the higher the acceleration, but what if multiple smaller vibrations were dampened into one with higher amplitude but smaller force exerted on the camera? Edit: I may have misunderstood the video at first, thinking he's saying more deviation = bad, while actually his claim was more deviation = good. I'm still unsure what their conclusion really was though, and I replayed it couple times. The methodology there isn't very clear to me.
@@LukasHaldathats exactly what the vibration dampeners do. Especially the one from quad lock. Its translates the many high frequency vibrations into höher frequemcy vibrations. This causes the mount to actually be more shaky causing the phone to wobble around more, but protects the OIS from the high frequencies which would destroy it. The OIS itself is a mount for the camera lens, which can be magnetically controlled to change the direction oft the lens. When it is exposed to very high frequencies the shaking caused by them cause it to move too much until it breaks. You can think of it like a bridge breaking itself apart due to strong winds in the right frequency, or a washing machine disassembling itself when a stone is put inside it causing it to vibrate uncontrollably.
@@CaptainChromYes, that's what I meant, not sure I explained correctly. With that in mind, how does "standard deviation in the change of angle over XYZ axis" say anything about damage protection? Meaning the more wobble (deviation), the less high frequency vibration and the more protection? Can't it still get into resonance and actually exert more acceleration on the OIS mechanism?
Pretty he meant 218% *more* on the SP Connect, but flipped around... so the Peak has about half as much vibration compared to the next best one they tested. Matches the charts as well. But really, why nit pick this stuff? Just get the one with the least vibration. And maybe pay for accidental damage cover as well.
I've been through the gamut myself and bought most of these mounts at some point over the last few years. the ram mount was too big and bulky, and the rubber thing is super annoying to put on. But ram ball mounts are by far the best. I've settled on the quad lock BUT I hate the default arm they sell. I ended up getting ram ball mount and arm (metal version) . then quad lock sells a ram ball that bolts directly to the back of the wireless charging motorcycle head (with the vibration damper). They now sell a 12v one, but I wired mine through the battery disconnect that also runs my fog lights so it will turn off automatically with the ignition, with an sae 2 pole adapter to female USB, then ran the waterproof type A to type C cable the charger comes with up under the tank. One big thing for me as well is that I have the same mount in my car so my phone mounts to both easily and charges just by being on the mount.
The quad lock button feel is actually much better with the newest version for Iphone 15. That doesn't rescue it in this case but it is a note. Also I think the reason that the vibration dampener doesn't come with it, is because when it first launched, optical image stabilization wasn't the norm on most phones. It shouldn't be that expensive tho.
@@chickenmunga ah yes, my first bike was a WR250X. that bike vibrated so much that it beat my license plate to pieces. ig it's ymmv for this since it depends on a lot. mine has been fine for 2 years, but that's with a Galaxy S22 and on a Triumph Tiger Sport 660, which is a lot smoother than a dual sport
Quadlock is a beast!! I've dropped my ATAS in every karma sutra position you could imagine and it's been safe. The case is also decent. I left the phone on the roof of my car and it slid off at 75mph into the street. It laid in the middle of the highway for 8 hours and the phone was unscathed when we eventually found it!!! Will never use another mount.
@@512mbflashdrive Depends on the phone, not all phones have camera stabilizing bits that can be damaged, which is something they should have mentioned in this review.
@@DJPTEXAS That is very surprising to me. One of my bikes only has one of the two handle bar clamp hex bolts in place so it can be rotated to avoid the sun and it's been working that way for 30k miles haha
I used to work for a rental motorcycle company. We used X-Grip. Except for pressing every volume and power button on almost every phone, the safety strap would snap every now and then and phones would fall off, destroying them. It's useless.
That was a down side, but it's not like all four strap points are likely to break at once, so you have plenty of time to buy new straps. I purchased some well reviewed 3rd party replacements and two years later it still has not broken. Specifically, I bought NALAKUVARA Phone Mount X Holder Grip Tether Rubber Strap Silicone Security Bands
I have the quadlock mag case for the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and it actually has improved buttons that aren't part of the case so they don't feel mushy at all. I don't know if it's a design they're going with for newer phones, or if this is just how the mag cases come, but I haven't had any complaints about the case other than it being kind of thick and heavy. Quadlock is pretty expensive, but like RAM its an ecosystem with different mounts and accessories to choose from. I have the windscreen car mount with the mag charge head and it's straight up the most solid car mount I've ever used. You can also get the "ponchos" that are like a clear second case that snaps onto the front of your phone to give it more protection.
One major benefit of the poncho is that rain doesn't cause your screen to go haywire nearly as bad as having no poncho. Even though the phone is waterproof, I use the poncho in the rain for that reason
Thanks for redoing an already great job. There's two generations of the SP Connect System and when I was riding 1200 kilometres in 4 days on the old one, without vibration damper, it did indeed kill my iPhones optical stabilizer, so taking pictures was, ahm, strange afterwards. The new system looks different and is built differently.
Strange you didn't test the QuadLock vibration dampener. Yes it's an add-on, but that's what makes QuadLock so versatile. Do I need the dampener on a golf cart or kayak, or car dash mount? No. Less expense where not necessary.
Man, F9 gets a lot of milage from that CVT cone.
Did you mean "CVT cone?" 😂
yea hope someone washes it
“That’s what she said.”
They are forced by law to use 'the CVT cone' in videos to pass it off as a business expense
Thanks for the feedback team! You all make us sharper. ~RF9
Mrbeast collaboration when?
I hope never lol@@byever1
Make more motorcycle vids ffs
Thank you for listening to your audience and making adjustments. That's how we grow and get better!!
You could do a feedback video on feedback, asking for feedback on your feedback, and it would still be epic!
Peace from Australia :)
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when did they upload this one?
@@spacecruisers Did you watch until the end of the video...? :)
@@jttcosmosI stand corrected and deleted my comment, I guess I commented too early haha. To be fair I think it deserves more than 10 seconds at the very end. I have both the locking and non-locking/wireless charging Peak Design 1” ball mounts which are pretty cheap comparatively, has built in vibration dampening, and I can easily swap between my motorcycles/bike/cars which all have existing ram mount setups. The case is also 👌🏻 (they have some cool accessories like wallets and stands etc if you’re into that) Also, not to ignore the most important part, mounting and dismounting is almost completely frictionless.
I’m not an influencer/ambassador, just truly love good design and love their product which I bought with my own money. I was pleased to see that it also performed the best (according to their test metric anyway)
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@@spacecruisersI did the same. When the PD case and mounts arrived I literally threw my phone at the mount and it locked itself on! Truly one handed release too! My old bedside wireless charger works with it. I got the car mounts that have the magnet without the latching anti-vibration motorcycle stuff.
Retest starts at 7:08
Bless.
Thanks my man, you're a real one
get sponsor block and make it a highlight point for us ^^
the comment i was looking for
@@NorroTakudo it yourself?
I don't want to encourage skipping but 7:13 for anyone who saw the first part already.
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Oh, so it's been extended. I was extremely confused. And even thinking about déja vu.
I do want to encourage skipping, so I marked this as a highlight in Sponsorblock.
As someone who does vibration analysis for work, I'd be interested in seeing the raw accelerometer data to see what ASD levels each mount produces, i.e. the frequency content of the measured vibrations
dude i do the same thing
Yeah, old FortNine would've displayed those.
R.I.P.
@@MotoDash1100🤷🏻♂️ they got big and now have to adjust for the masses, basically all channels have to do it.
Ditto!
would it be possible to figure out the resonant frequencies of the parts that are responsible for broken optical stabilization? In practice would that just be done through testing and breaking a lot of phones?
I'm glad you took the time to update and repost this video. I wish you had included the available vibration dampers in the tests, they do cost more money but in the case of quadlock (which is the only one of these I have used), I was happy to buy the add-on to protect the well over $1000 phone I use it for and I would be interested in independent testing to see how effective it really is
Exactly, they gave control testing but not testing on with the apparently only vibration dampener available on market right now.
This is a huge miss. They literally redid the video to add additional tests but didn't test the anti vibration mounts...?
Dampeners 😉😁😁😁. 😎
Why would you spend $1000 on a phone and not expect it to withstand vibration? My $300 phone has handled 30,000 km of big thumper riding on a KTM, and the phone functions perfectly.
@@shhmule I'm glad you're happy with your $300 phone, mine has functions that yours does not, that is the nature of paying more money for things. Whether a flagship phone is necessary is another question.
Actually my previous $1000 phone survived around maybe 10,000km on my DR-Z without the vibration damper too, much of it off road (and more crashes than I could count). But others had problems with the exact same phone, so I guess I was just lucky. I just bought the vibration damper for piece of mind.
The Peak Design moto mount has been bomb proof for me and a few others I ride with. And the cases are slick, protect the phone, and still keep a decent feel on the buttons. And it puts you into the RAM ecosystem. They really did nail it on their mounts.
Same here. I am surprised it's not included in this video, I find it far superior to Quad Lock even.
Yes! The Peak Design Mobile line is awesome, I got a whole set of their mounts from the Kickstarter, then picked up a couple of the RAM ball attachments. Ridiculously secure.
Yeah peak design is best and it’s not close
I came here looking for this comment. I also switched from long time QuadLock to Peak Design. No going back.
@@g0nk see last few seconds
What an amazing move guys!
Re editing and shooting some parts to ensure better and more accurate results! 👍🏼
Thanks for taking the feedback and updating. Although what I actually want to know is how well they do WITH the vibration damper. Cause anyone that is concerned about it is going to get that anyway
Hey! Cool video as always! I do have one question though: In some of the cuts of footage from the accelerometer tests, I can see that the accelerometer is attached directly to the phone mount. Wouldn’t it be a much more representative test, with perhaps a different outcome, if you attached the accelerometer to a phone on the phone mount? Feels to me like the added mass could quite significantly impact your vibration tests!
Most phones have accelerometers build in. maybe use these and an app to read the data....
I thought the same thing. You'd like to think more mass would improve things however, but then again, the resonant frequency may change for the worse.
You could do some rough physics to estimate the size and weight of the phones from the size/weight of the accelerometer. There is a shred of hope that is what they were referring to in regards to having to do some math in the video. But I agree, Id like to know how that would change things.
Having used the RAM X-Grip across 3 iPhones on two Harley Davidson bikes over the years (and HD’s don’t vibrate at ALL 🙄), as well as my leisurely strolls on a Trek Verve 2, I can report zero phone damage over thousands of miles. I refuse to use a mount that requires a dedicated case.
especially since most phones don't have a case for quadlock ect lol
The RAM Quick grip w Vibration damper is more secure and never had an issue. I agree I do not like using a case....
Well it dropped mine so average in my 100% damage to that equation. Just buy the far-superior Quick-Grip in the same Ram mount ecosystem.
Isn't that like one of the biggest issues with some of these mounts, the fact that if you use a non-popular phone you're pretty much screwed to not be able to use it at all?
@@sirskyrage they have soft case. Looks like bag and it's ok, gives better weather protection, and there is vice grip. I use both they are ok. I don't know how good they are with keeping your phone camera alive. My cat killed it first :P
Reuploading to correct your methodology is why you're trusted. Thanks.
Peak Design mount comes with vibration dampening already included, and the case is really nice, i’ve had one for a few months now and no complaints !
You're still claiming that the quad lock vibration mount is an extra 60 dollars investment, when your own screenshot shows that it only costs CAD$25
Absolutely one of the best channels on TH-cam. The previous phone mount video is the only time I've ever seen overwhelmingly negative comments, and instead of just letting that slide you went and improved the video with math to backup your findings. I found the original video came off a lot like an SP connect advert, where is this one definitely comes off like an actual analysis of quality. Thanks to the team at Fortnine for continuing the unbelievable quality you've always had
Yeah, they portrayed people caring about SP Connect's lack of upfront nature about vibrations as being tinfoil hat wearers, and then provided a control for QuadLock but never showing it with the vibration dampener which is the other half of what so many comments asked for.
Great job FortNine, you portrayed people who cared and commented as conspiracy nuts. So much respect for the community that thought you cared about details and good testing, as well as companies (SP Connect as an example) being upfront about vibrational damage and marketing claims (Quadlock as an example of a marketing claim that went fully untested).
I have the QuadLock with vibration dampener and wireless charger; I was hoping to see it tested 🤷🏼♂️
But yea, I guess that vibration dampener does such a good job so it wouldn't be fair to the others 🙃🤷🏼♂️
Team Peak Design here. I have two of their motorcycle mounts. Hands-down the best in my opinion.
Agreed
And how many of the others have you tried?
@@csn583 like 4-5 various brands/mounts.
PD, QL, Ram, and a couple of Amazon types.
Agree +100
Sold out in the UK
I use one of the RAM mounts and have not had any damage to my phones so far. I really like that it doesn't require any particular phone case (you can use your own or none at all) and the extra rubber "wings" are optional in normal street riding (just clamp it into the arms which takes only one second) and you can optionally strap it down if you're doing something rowdy. The flexibility in mounting is great, and you can do complicated or fancy stuff with multiple mounts if you're setting up a touring rig with other gear like map/GPS holders, cupholders, etc and everything interoperates.
wait, why I feel a dejavu here?
Happened with the glove review too. New guy missed something too big to ignore.
was it the red pill?
@@MrSnowMen Namely, he dinged the QuadLock for something the SP Connect has too merely because QuadLock was the only one with a page emphasizing the importance. Furthermore, he took that good-faith information and used it against them, misrepresenting what was on the page by claiming the issue only affects QuadLock. I don’t have either and I will probably get the SP Connect anyway, but I was still one of the ones calling them out for it. How do you turn a positive into a negative?!
Breaking:
While I was writing this the video got to 6:49 where he again says that QuadLock’s page says that using a QuadLock on certain motorcycles can damage phones. The page says nothing of the kind. It says that the vibrations on certain motorcycles are known for damaging phones without some kind of vibration dampening whether they are in a QuadLock or not. It could even happen in a tank bag. It’s a shame they still didn’t fix this error.
Peak Design FTW. After scrutinizing options, and barely stomaching the price, I wouldn't consider anything else. The vibration damping, options for vehicle and home mounts, ease of mounting/unmounting, durability, and design are overall better than the other options...at a price. No issues running it on my Monster for the last year.
I do like the RAM Mount ecosystem and still have one in my truck, needing to position my phone very carefully to avoid turning the volume all the way up. I wouldn't use one on my bike for all the reasons.
Awesome video, but please do a full review on the Peak Design. I'd like to see what downsides you find.
agree 100% - I've had all 4 on trial here - the x-grip is great, as fits anything, but bulky and the rubbers will fail eventually - the sp-connect was fine, but I broke several and stripped the threads on the mounts (assume it's the pressed steel riv-but into alu) - the quadlock I first used many years ago, and was perfectly happy with, but the new mag-safe cases don't work with Apple's mag-chargers... it's a well discussed issue - 3rd party chargers seem to be o.k. ..... returned all my new mag-safe quadlock for a refund - then found Peak Designs.... the cases are a step above the SP & Quad, the mount is excellent, no twisting required, with the options e.t.c. being fantastic - recommend the peak design system
I was really looking forward after having upgraded my phone to buy a dedicated case with high quality mounts for the various vehicles... however I was quite disappointed to see that PD is still just "working on" a moto mount with built-in wireless charging... now that my phone comes with the capability I really do not want to mess around with cables everytime I put it on or take it off
Perhaps this guy will grow on me over time……..
I moved on to the Peak Design motorcycle mount (the one with the ball adapter) for my dual sport adventures and it's been the best mount I've had BY FAR. This coming from someone that has used Quad Lock, Ram X-Grip, and some no-name cheapo from Amazon. Seriously they nailed the design with their mounts and cases. You don't even have to think about attaching it to the mount it just snaps into place, and you can easily release your phone with one hand. Only time will tell about their motorcycle vibration dampener, but hey at least it's built in and they're not bending you over a barrel like Quad Lock.
“It’s damper”
The only problem I have with Peak Design is that their wireless charging mount is non locking. If they made a locking wireless charging mount for motorcycles I'd switch over from quad lock.
I agree, I just switched over from Quadlock of 5 years to PD and love it.
Never thought I’d need to ask a motorcycle channel to make motorcycle videos
I agree with the smushy buttons on the QuadLock. However the new case for the iPhone 15 has very snappy button presses. In my personal anecdotal experience, from the three I've owned, QuadLock is improving their case design.
The Quadlock phone specific cases aren't a mandatory requirement either.
This video, and the original, both seem to lean towards SP Connect with a bias.
Portraying people who care about details and testing as being tinfoil hat nut people, and then also just glossing over the facts that Quadlock doesn't require specific phone cases, as well as actually having a vibration dampener (and then not testing it).
The only unfortunate fact for new 15 series Quadlack case is they don’t co-op well with any other brand for MagSafe charging, doesn’t matter it’s Apple or Apple certified ones. I mean the charging devices is not too bad from Quad lock, but I hate the fact they are not being clear upfront and took away my Possibilities to pick whatever I want.
but the buttons become better to press after some time. when i first got my quadlock case the buttons were really hard to press, after over a year it got way easier.
i have quadlock for iphone 12 pro and buttons feels fine
Experienced exactly the same switching from 13pro with magsafe case to the 15pro with the same case. It no longer works with 90% of my magsafe chargers except quadlocks.@@Agridoce0629
I ride a unicycle, what Mount would you recommend?
Gender?
@@muddywater6856unisexual
Probably something in the same aisle as that big black silicone object. Preferably non-vibrating, and hold on tight.
I love the Quad Lock, have them on my motorcycles, mountain bike, road bike, and cars. Crashed while riding on the track, and the phone stayed in place, same while mountain biking.
Me: "I'm not a kid anymore!"
Also, me: "Haha. Big rubber cone funny"
Still feels not very thorough. Would have liked to see peak designs properly included, would have liked to see vibration tests with the phones on the mounts, kind of pointless to test bare. Lots of details missed. Even though don’t like ram mount they have a new quick connect mount that is apparently good. Also new cases from all manufacturers have recently upped their game. It’s kind of like this is what a video from 2021 would be like if someone who didn’t know much about mounts would do. Would have liked to see what brand was easy to hook up to electrical also as that’s all over the place with costs and complexity.
I’m glad they added the peak design mount. I’ve been through a bunch of mounts and I (anecdotally) have found the PD to be the best. Easiest to mount/dismount, built in vibration dampener, and the case is actually pretty nice. It includes stronger magnets for MagSafe charging (adds magnets for android phones) and they offer accessories that work with the mount as well. It’s also the most elegant design using actual metal to the positive locking mechanism.
We're ready for a new motorcycle review!
15 dollar amazon phone mount that has lasted me 6 years has entered the chat.
I was trying to re-watch this video yesterday and couldn't find it. Thanks for the update, team!
This! This is what we have come to expect from F9! I'm going to stick with my quadlock and vibration damper, but thank you for the thorough testing!
Not Tested: RAM Quick Grip - 100% phone retention, no required after thought rubber band of the RAM X-Grip, and doesn't require a specialized phone case so there's easy access to the buttons.
I own two of them on my Klr650 and tiger 900 rp. One handed install or remove from mount.
This is best one
Bar mount redux is great. Thanks to the f9 team for caring enough to retest things for their viewers. Shows so much respect for the moto community.
Superb revision. I really love watching F9's videos!
important thing for the RAM mount - for users of specific phones that have power/volume buttons in the wrong spot, the RAM mount squeezes on them and makes your phone unusable unless you reposition it weird.
For that reason I use the QuadLock and im happy with it besides the fact that I don't know what wizardry it takes to put it on the mount with one, ungloved hand.
And it is much more secure than the Quad Lock......@@sys-administrator
@@sys-administrator Totally agree, the Quick-Grip is the best phone mount ever, I don't know why they even still make the X-grip.
@@sys-administrator Yep Quick-Grip is the best, mine is on my dirt bike and I've jumped it, smashed into big ruts i didn't see in the shadows, pin-balled down rocky single track, hopped logs, you name it, it's never moved. Works with my phone in its bulky waterproof case and is the fastest/easiest to remove and replace the phone from, it's perfect, their X-grip however is terrible, I don't know why they still make it and don't know why it was in this review.
There are options for mounts that reposition the arms to accommodate buttons. The ecosystem is huge
@@-TheRealChris Another vote for the Quick-Grip, it's the best, another thing to note is it lets you move the pins around to give access to your phones button layout and avoid unintentionally pressing them, unlike the X-grip.
Would've loved to see how much the quad lock vibration mount helped
I used a Peak Design with my new 14ProMax this season. No issues, no damage and MEGA easy on/off.. All the best from Calgary!
I’m so glad you remade this! I was wondering why it wasn’t mentioned before and now I’m so glad I have a PD case haha
What happened lol.. we want a re-retest 😂
You don't have to use the Quad Lock case, there are stick on thingies too. I don't mind the case though. It feels pretty tough without adding much bulk and the ring thing is useful for the 99.99% of the time that it isn't mounted to something.
I think my favourite feature is that the common components are actually widely available and the less common parts ship quickly within Australia.
I'm a Quadlock user, but I see Peak has an adhesive mount too.
Not to mention you have to use the sick on mounts if you don't have supported phone like Samsung or iPhone
Ram has the “quick grip” which while bulky, is my go to. I’ve put them in all my work trucks and most my motorcycles.
I use the quick grip as well. I don't worry about vibrations on my street bike that isn't a Harley. The main issue with it is that you need to readjust it for a different phone. This usually isn't an issue for most users.
@@KevinSmith-qi5yn Only if they have different button positions I suppose, and you can probably find a position for the side pegs that fits multiple devices. Only need one per side.
i flip the quick grip over, so that i push the phone down to insert it. This is easier, and does not push the sleep button my my pixel on the mount's side post when inserting!@@csn583
I have no idea why you guys used the old X-Grip and not the newer Quick Grip from Ram Mount.
That said I can confirm that the Quick grip damaged not one but 3 iPhones before I clued into what was breaking the cameras. (Warrantied the phone)
Funny enough my Yamaha FJ09 did not damage the phone but my DRZ did. Same mount was used on both bikes.
I now live with a damaged iPhone 11 camera. Good news is that once broken it doesn’t get any worse.
Thanks as always chaps. Having used my Quad Lock for some years with no discernible damage to my camera I bought a damper anyway for only $25au and continue to be happy but with greater piece of mind. And definitely Zed...
I bought an X Grip because I don't have an Iphone and I couldn't find a case for the other mounts that require one. I was not much of a fan of the X Grip, because it's a bit of a pain to get the phone mounted up.
I ended up buying the Quick-Grip phone mount they make and it's WAY better! Quick one hand install, grips hard, never came close to falling out. No idea how the X Grip gets so much attention. The lesser known mount is superior.
Any difference between the previous one?
past 7:09 they do more vibration testing and add an extra product that does the best
Another great video, it's great that you reposted an edited video with additional information
Damn, you guys not only value us but you guys also answered all the issues we had!
U already uploaded this
No, they uploaded a deeply flawed test that forced them to retest.
@@emmettturner9452 oh
@@gigajames The same thing happened when the other new guy did the gloves video. ;) Glad they are willing to do things like this.
I love the X-Grip for its ease of use and quick attachment to any phone with any case, plus the wide range of Ram Mount accessories you can use it with. I use it on my DR650 and it has never let go of my phone, (and I don't even bother with the extra rubber holder), both on rough pothole filled roads, and dumping the bike while offroad and pretending to be riding a 250cc dirtbike. It has, however, killed the optical image stabilizer in two iPhones, so there definitely must be some decent vibration going on.
The iPhone is your problem.
And how do you manage the RAM having rubber bands over the screen? It looks like they strap directly over where the Back and Apps buttons sit on the screen, so you'd have a hard time navigating thru menus.
Thank you so much for re-tackling this topic. Well done.
Love the content as usual. Would have been cool if you had also tested Mounts from Mous. Easier to mount than the some of the listed competitors.
It shouldn't matter. No sane person should be buying any product from someone whose entire marketing campaign is screaming as loud as they can while they throw things.
@@brianhaygood183 Mous products actually work as advertised if you bother to filter out the screaming and just focused on the results.
Have used the SP Connect on my Triumph for years now. I wanted something secure but not obtuse in terms of design. All machined aluminum to boot.
I have a cheap one by oxford, were you stick the second part just to your phone or the case you want to use and it works pretty good. No idea about vibrations though.
I’ve had a TackForm mount on my Africa Twin for years, never has my phone come loose or fallen off, lots of off-road riding and drops. Should do a review of that one.
I'm little disappointed that Peak Design and Mous Case still not make it to the test part of this remake video, they both have vibration dampening build in their mounts and their cases feels a lot nicer too
did you watch the video?
Peak design was their recommendation
@@MahsinurRahmanLava Did you read the message?
I said test video
@@CKfaro They did test the Peak Design for the vibration accelerometer thing. It's the fourth in the list of their data shown.
It's true they did not do a MTB run with it though.
Still no love for the Mous case.
@@CKfaro bro it was on the chart,,,, its a edited together video they did the best they could
I bought a TACKFORM and can't recommend it enough. The vibration dambing is stock. Custom service is awesome as well.
There is nothing to attach to the phone. The mount is incredibly secure.
The one thing missing is that with the Ram Mount X-Grip, you can attach it to you handlebar using an adjustable clamp that can mount to any handlebar. It also works with any phone regardless of make and what case you choose to use. For someone with multiple bikes and phones, the Ram Mount is the only option, and it actually works perfectly. Never lost a phone while using it.
Thanks for the re-upload!
Was confused when seeing the original video (because as you said: both face the issue).
Curious for the results :)
If you accidentally splash a few drops of fuel on your quad lock while refueling, it will melt in about a minute, and your phone falls off. Ask me how I know 😕
Been using the ram mount for almost 8 years and never had any issues with vibration damage or screen visibility from shaking, plus its been compatible with the 3 different motorcycles I have had over the years as well as compatible with the different phones I have had. with the ram mount I can buy a less popular phone and not worry if the mount company is going to make a case for it. While I agree that the ram mount is a bulky solution that's not necessarily going work for everyone I think the video severely under values the high universal fit of the ram x mount along with under estimating the value of a buy it once and use it for 8 plus years solution the ram mount can be.
THANK you, Ryan for pointing out that the word is "damping", not "dampening", when the topic is vibrating the phone and not using it in the shower.
Awesome this team that FortNine has/is putting together... KEEP IT COMING!
Having the SP-Connect with the regular vibration module(which you can just order here in the Netherlands BTW)
I like it, it works well, simply, reliable, very adjustable.
I used SP connect bicycle phone mount (bought for 30€) and I already clocked over 25.000 km on the street. Zero problems, no broken camera (yet)
@@jorelplay8738A bicycle does not vibrate like a motorcylce. Why would ur camera be broken :D ?
Again?
Super happy that bicycles are on the channel now too
Other videomakes and reviewers can learn a lot from how F9 handles critique. Well done once again.
As someone who lives in Denmark where there's a LOT of bicycles, and not a lot of motorcycles, it's awesome to see cycling-usable content here too!
Out the the couple I've tried and used, quadlock is by far the best, I added the ($25) vibration damper and I've never had an issue with camera damage.
The buttons at least on all of the galaxy phones I've had have never felt mushy, they've always been super tight and snappy.
Man this video is so great on so many levels. The hilarious script, set, and props for the segment starting at 7:10. And I ever expected to see a reference to the great POWDERED TOAST MANNNNN in a TH-cam video!😂 Keep up the awesome work guys!
Normal, IL? That's one of the last things I expected in a video from FortNine. I grew up not far from there.
Oh, and the video was awesome as usual. Keep up the quality work, fellas!
May I suggest a re-re-test, mounting the mounts to a trial bike?
Déjà vu
Thanks for the re-review, it didn't answer the issues I had, but at least it was a good follow up. And I hope the host didn't take it personally or get crap for it, I don't think it was really his fault and he is a good presenter.
The expanded crew is killing it. Nice work up there. Ps. send more maple syrup.
Good job updating with new info.
I use QuadLock, I don't think it should come standard with the vibration dampener.
If it did, the overall cost would increase and you don't always need one. I have a mount in my car, mountain bike and motorcycle, I only need damping on my MC.
I do prefer the look of the Peak design option, however, they don't offer wireless charging for the motorcycle yet.
As I'm already into the QuadLock ecosystem it's unlikely I'll change.
*damping
Exact same belief for me too.
i went to the apple store with a broken iphone camera. The guy at the desk says "what kind of motorcycle do you ride?
That sad moment when this video comes out (even last week) and your case purchase is past return policy window.
as someone with a PD case, I was wondering how it would compare, so the last-minute add-on is much appreciated
On the subject of fixing mistakes, the quadlock vibration damper is $20, not an extra $60 as stated in the video at about 7:00
This is a Canadian channel, perhaps it's $60 CAD which is sadly about $20 USD with all the exchange fees all the purchase platforms tend to add on for funzies.
Also extra thumbs up for being the only person not using the incorrect term "dampening".
The RAM MOUNT QUICK GRIP is by the far the best phone mount, their X-GRIP however is pretty terrible.
Peak Design much better
I used X grip in cars, but quick grips on motorcycles, quads, or anywhere the phone really needs to stay put. Yes the little rubber things can make the phone stay in the xgrip but its a PITA to use. My phone and my prior phone were in otter box cases, the big chonky ones, never had problems with vibration in 6 years of use.
Lost a phone with the x grip lol
I've used three out of the four. SP Connect was the only one who ever ejected my phone off road, and still needs a vibration damper. No reason to move off of quad lock at this point, though Peak Design is pretty interesting.
Would love to see some "old-school" mounts tested, like the GIVI S958B
Bike on back over to motorcycles¡
11:59 Can someone please explain to me how you can have (on average) 218% less of something? This would entail negative vibrations... The data itself is not intuitive either. Why are you comparing standard deviations as the main variables instead of averages? Why do you have one value of standard deviation even though you tested multiple RPM scenarios? What do the numbers and relations in the table actually mean? What is the test based on? That is excluding the million different variables that would change because you don't have a controlled environment. I really appreciate that the previous video was taken down and retested, but this still feels inadequate support.
I was also thinking that the amplitude may not be the killer for the camera, but rather the acceleration. (Or jerk/shock? I'm not up to date on my physics, I mean the force pulling stuff faster in a different direction than its inertia.) You could expect the higher the amplitude, the higher the acceleration, but what if multiple smaller vibrations were dampened into one with higher amplitude but smaller force exerted on the camera?
Edit: I may have misunderstood the video at first, thinking he's saying more deviation = bad, while actually his claim was more deviation = good. I'm still unsure what their conclusion really was though, and I replayed it couple times. The methodology there isn't very clear to me.
@@LukasHaldathats exactly what the vibration dampeners do. Especially the one from quad lock. Its translates the many high frequency vibrations into höher frequemcy vibrations. This causes the mount to actually be more shaky causing the phone to wobble around more, but protects the OIS from the high frequencies which would destroy it.
The OIS itself is a mount for the camera lens, which can be magnetically controlled to change the direction oft the lens. When it is exposed to very high frequencies the shaking caused by them cause it to move too much until it breaks. You can think of it like a bridge breaking itself apart due to strong winds in the right frequency, or a washing machine disassembling itself when a stone is put inside it causing it to vibrate uncontrollably.
@@CaptainChromYes, that's what I meant, not sure I explained correctly.
With that in mind, how does "standard deviation in the change of angle over XYZ axis" say anything about damage protection? Meaning the more wobble (deviation), the less high frequency vibration and the more protection? Can't it still get into resonance and actually exert more acceleration on the OIS mechanism?
Pretty he meant 218% *more* on the SP Connect, but flipped around... so the Peak has about half as much vibration compared to the next best one they tested. Matches the charts as well.
But really, why nit pick this stuff? Just get the one with the least vibration. And maybe pay for accidental damage cover as well.
Wow, I like the revisit with more data and now wish you linked the peak design!
Phone mounts: for when you want your phone to be trashed or really far away from you when you crash
I've been through the gamut myself and bought most of these mounts at some point over the last few years. the ram mount was too big and bulky, and the rubber thing is super annoying to put on. But ram ball mounts are by far the best.
I've settled on the quad lock BUT I hate the default arm they sell. I ended up getting ram ball mount and arm (metal version) . then quad lock sells a ram ball that bolts directly to the back of the wireless charging motorcycle head (with the vibration damper).
They now sell a 12v one, but I wired mine through the battery disconnect that also runs my fog lights so it will turn off automatically with the ignition, with an sae 2 pole adapter to female USB, then ran the waterproof type A to type C cable the charger comes with up under the tank.
One big thing for me as well is that I have the same mount in my car so my phone mounts to both easily and charges just by being on the mount.
The quad lock button feel is actually much better with the newest version for Iphone 15. That doesn't rescue it in this case but it is a note.
Also I think the reason that the vibration dampener doesn't come with it, is because when it first launched, optical image stabilization wasn't the norm on most phones.
It shouldn't be that expensive tho.
In Australia the vibration dampener is $20
Thanks for doing this, immediatly liked the video after the updated section.
I have a Rokform, which is similar to the quad lock, but the case is way better.
also, Ryan shouting "IT'S DAMPING!" warmed my cold engineer's heart
FYI, I have a Rokform on my WR250R holding an iPhone 12 mini. It damaged my camera, so I’m going to find something different 😢
@@chickenmunga ah yes, my first bike was a WR250X. that bike vibrated so much that it beat my license plate to pieces. ig it's ymmv for this since it depends on a lot. mine has been fine for 2 years, but that's with a Galaxy S22 and on a Triumph Tiger Sport 660, which is a lot smoother than a dual sport
Quadlock is a beast!! I've dropped my ATAS in every karma sutra position you could imagine and it's been safe. The case is also decent. I left the phone on the roof of my car and it slid off at 75mph into the street. It laid in the middle of the highway for 8 hours and the phone was unscathed when we eventually found it!!! Will never use another mount.
oh yeah, never used a vibration dampner on any of my bikes and my camera is fine. 🤷♂️ one of them is a buell, too
@@512mbflashdrive Depends on the phone, not all phones have camera stabilizing bits that can be damaged, which is something they should have mentioned in this review.
@PNW_Trials_Adventures Most newer phones do. My current is a s23 ultra and it's a-ok
Its all subjective, I had a Quad Lock come apart on me dropping my phone on an Highway exit ramp...phone was ok though still in the case...
@@DJPTEXAS That is very surprising to me. One of my bikes only has one of the two handle bar clamp hex bolts in place so it can be rotated to avoid the sun and it's been working that way for 30k miles haha
Side note. Riding 30+ years. My phone lives in my pocket. ANY distraction can kill. Riding = 100% focus. Good luck. Long time sub.
I like the weird bicycle guy with his crazy stare.
I bought a RokForm based on recommendation from a motorcycle TH-camr. It is a very sturdy mount. Why was that system not included in the round up?
I used to work for a rental motorcycle company. We used X-Grip. Except for pressing every volume and power button on almost every phone, the safety strap would snap every now and then and phones would fall off, destroying them. It's useless.
The RAM Mount Quick-Grip is what the RAM X-Grip should have been.
That was a down side, but it's not like all four strap points are likely to break at once, so you have plenty of time to buy new straps. I purchased some well reviewed 3rd party replacements and two years later it still has not broken.
Specifically, I bought NALAKUVARA Phone Mount X Holder Grip Tether Rubber Strap Silicone Security Bands
I liked the chill vibes of Ryan more
He's the closest to surfer vibes you can get from a motorhead
I have the quadlock mag case for the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and it actually has improved buttons that aren't part of the case so they don't feel mushy at all. I don't know if it's a design they're going with for newer phones, or if this is just how the mag cases come, but I haven't had any complaints about the case other than it being kind of thick and heavy.
Quadlock is pretty expensive, but like RAM its an ecosystem with different mounts and accessories to choose from. I have the windscreen car mount with the mag charge head and it's straight up the most solid car mount I've ever used.
You can also get the "ponchos" that are like a clear second case that snaps onto the front of your phone to give it more protection.
One major benefit of the poncho is that rain doesn't cause your screen to go haywire nearly as bad as having no poncho. Even though the phone is waterproof, I use the poncho in the rain for that reason
Thanks for redoing an already great job.
There's two generations of the SP Connect System and when I was riding 1200 kilometres in 4 days on the old one, without vibration damper, it did indeed kill my iPhones optical stabilizer, so taking pictures was, ahm, strange afterwards. The new system looks different and is built differently.
Strange you didn't test the QuadLock vibration dampener. Yes it's an add-on, but that's what makes QuadLock so versatile. Do I need the dampener on a golf cart or kayak, or car dash mount? No. Less expense where not necessary.