When Emongg was talking about seeing tank from the supports pov, it reminded me of what I’ve always said. To be a good tank, you have to have a good understanding of every role. Understand what your team needs to do well and you’ll win.
A skill you start to develop the more you play tank is the "ok I have to get out of here" sense. Which means you can't be always pushing forward because the enemy team is also playing the game and eventually they're gonna start shooting back at you. This is why you always have to have an escape cooldown ready, be conscious of your support's positioning, know the closest piece of cover and which enemy (or cooldown) you have to get rid of before they punish you. All at the same time.
Is it me or it doesn't feel like this player used to be GM regarding their aim, mechanics and positioning? Unless they're only playing projectile characters like Junkrat, but still...
I mean look at their positioning, their sensitivity etc. you can really only get away with those plays on a very mobile hero like tracer. So I imagine they’re a tracer main. Their tracking is bad however and their flick aim on the contrary, is not. So that makes me think they’d be a genji main… but I just don’t see many t500 genji’s.
Damn I wasn't gonna say anything cause comments have been toxic my way but you are actually pretty spot on and I am impressed. I am a Tracer main. I have mained her since 2016. It's also why I hit that Tracer out of recall around 4 minutes I knew where she'd be. I usually grind to GM then stop cause I'm never gonna be as good as the people in GM 1 and i'm fine with that. Mechanically my aim was never the strongest and Tracer relies more on being distracting and securing kills. besides you miss less when you can get right up in their face. For the record I do play soldier, sombra, and mei as backup DPS when situation calls for it. props again though figuring all that just from watching me on JQ I didn't even realize someone could see that. @@TgPepper
I really doubt this dude is GM. You don't need a second account to practise Tank. If he's GM on DPS and Support but not on Tank then he will get matched to whatever rank he is on Tank when queuing those games. Your rank in other roles don't effect each other. It would be different if he was like "I'm a Rein main and I'm GM but I want to practise Junker Queen" and then used a different account for that, but he isn't. He's a Plat player.
Dude has massive tunnel vision he completely ignored the scoped in widow standing still in the middle of main, just to go chase a Moira after she used fade, no way a gm dps would do that ever, they would punish that widow instantly
I'm in bronze, and when I play tank, I know I need to work on keeping track of where my team is and not getting tunnel vision. When I watch emongg or flats on tank, even I know where their team is because of how they play. The way this guy tunnel visions reminds me of my queen.
@@Sallyisok Doodle Bob (the name of the person we were spectating) is a character from Spongebob Squarepants and this is what he says during the episode.
@@kurumi5850 you have never been lower than diamond then. Even gold/plats group up near payload like chickens, instead of moving around the map, taking space.
Shooting Doom block is 100% worse but also… This is a rare exception. Any cc even if it’s knife really, should be used against Doom block. Now with Knife and Rock depending on the state of how much dmg those abilities deal and how much mit it takes to get empowered punch, those two abilities can be free empowered punches. Very situational on when you wanna allow that for Doom. Another good thing to mention is that there’s no overflow or double charge, once Doom has empowered punch he has it, if he’s glowing suddenly shooting the block is viable.
The biggest issue I see is their aim. They keep missing knives and axe swinging nobody. To play junkerqueen at a high level, you need to be hitting those knives because they get so much value. It’s similar to a roadhog hook.
As an ex support now tank main, it depends on the hero like if we’re running Bap + Lucio I probably don’t want my tank taking a ton of spam dmg. However if we’re running Ana + Kiri… Feed me.
If Doom engages with slam there’s no reason to not shoot block if you all focus him. Once his block ends he has no choice but to punch out anyway and if he gets greedy and all-ins with no CDs he should be in the respawn screen
As a doom player please listen to these guys. Shoot my block which is usually just me buying time for my abilities to come back. Doom block has 90% dm there is no point in shooting him. If he doesn’t get healed he’ll fall over and if he does he gets out with empowered. The amount of times I’m low hp and I get a 3 man punch and still live would shock you.
No way this guy is GM. I know i know, plat chat speaking o ver here, but common, he doesn't play around cover AT ALL. He just ran in like a headless chicken, no regrouping, pure TDM strats. Something in me just doesn't believe you get to GM without either of those, no matter the role. That or they think they don't need either to win games in plat, in which case this video was a bad attempt at ego.
No it is pretty obvious they sold last push. Like not even playing 100% sold it was 100% on the tank. Look where the entire team is look where the cart is and where it needs to get to. After all that one can say with 100% accuracy that the tank sold this game 100%. (Team was at least 20m back tank was feeding vs 4, cart was still far no reason to to play on it like that they could’ve played farther back. 100% tank sold and should get avoided
Should they change things so the cart moves at 1 person speed if no one's touching it? It would make things a lot more TDM, but it seems like pretty bad game design to have things where optimal play requires one person to opt out of most of the game. It's got so bad I've even tried to specially not care about the payload for games but I just can't have fun playing knowing everything I'm doing is for nothing because the cart is just sitting there.
No, that would just switch what team is always down one. One defender would constantly be out of the fight just sitting on point making sure it doesn't move. Would also make it impossible to draw games with cheaters on those maps (if people still do that)
im in gold. now i dont play JQ or doom. but i found mouga is pretty good with countering doom. maybe not for high rank but i just won a game we should have lost but i switched and held em off pretty easily.
@@thenewkidthenewkid1128 bro what’s the point of being a bitch like that just don’t be negative find a way to be positive ok be nice for once bro don’t be a dick
When Emongg was talking about seeing tank from the supports pov, it reminded me of what I’ve always said. To be a good tank, you have to have a good understanding of every role. Understand what your team needs to do well and you’ll win.
Weird thing is this guy is masters in dps and support 🤔
A skill you start to develop the more you play tank is the "ok I have to get out of here" sense. Which means you can't be always pushing forward because the enemy team is also playing the game and eventually they're gonna start shooting back at you. This is why you always have to have an escape cooldown ready, be conscious of your support's positioning, know the closest piece of cover and which enemy (or cooldown) you have to get rid of before they punish you. All at the same time.
The " *chuckles* I'm in danger" sense
I love how chat talks like they’re GM with all their critique comments - literally all hindsight 20/20 and parroting
"I'm in silver 5 and I'm better than this guy" lol
REAL
It's as they say. Twitch chat is always Top 500. They know more than anyone else!
Everyone in chat is insufferable... but I guess someone would be if they watch twitch
I feel like most people in chats are low gold. Not dissing them, just sounds likely.
am I crazy or the brig whip shot makes a looooot of noise recently
its like you hear it in your brain
they changed it!
yes that shit goes BOONK
Huh mace to the face
Is it me or it doesn't feel like this player used to be GM regarding their aim, mechanics and positioning? Unless they're only playing projectile characters like Junkrat, but still...
I am definitely wondering what character they play on DPS because their JQ shotgun aim is pretty average.
I mean look at their positioning, their sensitivity etc. you can really only get away with those plays on a very mobile hero like tracer. So I imagine they’re a tracer main. Their tracking is bad however and their flick aim on the contrary, is not. So that makes me think they’d be a genji main… but I just don’t see many t500 genji’s.
Damn I wasn't gonna say anything cause comments have been toxic my way but you are actually pretty spot on and I am impressed. I am a Tracer main. I have mained her since 2016. It's also why I hit that Tracer out of recall around 4 minutes I knew where she'd be. I usually grind to GM then stop cause I'm never gonna be as good as the people in GM 1 and i'm fine with that. Mechanically my aim was never the strongest and Tracer relies more on being distracting and securing kills. besides you miss less when you can get right up in their face. For the record I do play soldier, sombra, and mei as backup DPS when situation calls for it. props again though figuring all that just from watching me on JQ I didn't even realize someone could see that. @@TgPepper
Bro missed widow point blank with gracie. Quite impressive.
I really doubt this dude is GM. You don't need a second account to practise Tank. If he's GM on DPS and Support but not on Tank then he will get matched to whatever rank he is on Tank when queuing those games. Your rank in other roles don't effect each other. It would be different if he was like "I'm a Rein main and I'm GM but I want to practise Junker Queen" and then used a different account for that, but he isn't.
He's a Plat player.
probably doesn’t want to place tank yet until he’s better idk
Also needs to focus on aiming and which characters to target
Yeah the aim needs work. Too wild swinging around everywhere
I refuse to believe this guy is GM on dps and support...
yeah he doesnt seem to have a lot of general game sense or that great of an aim. i suppose anything can happen but, idk
Dude has massive tunnel vision he completely ignored the scoped in widow standing still in the middle of main, just to go chase a Moira after she used fade, no way a gm dps would do that ever, they would punish that widow instantly
@@danielalvarez1230or the fact that right before that he started focusing the Widow instead of the Moira when she was anti’d and half health lmao
For real look at this 21:52
That's most of these spectating vids to me, the game boosts people based on meeting certain criteria.
I'm in bronze, and when I play tank, I know I need to work on keeping track of where my team is and not getting tunnel vision. When I watch emongg or flats on tank, even I know where their team is because of how they play. The way this guy tunnel visions reminds me of my queen.
I can imagine DoodleBob in voice like “Neahoyminoymae, Noinominanominay”
What does that mean
@@Sallyisok Doodle Bob (the name of the person we were spectating) is a character from Spongebob Squarepants and this is what he says during the episode.
@@Cosmo_66 thank you, it makes sense now
"Careful they can hear you"
Me: *nanoed carnage bass boosted intensifies*
when engaging the combo I use is
Shoot, throw knife,pull,shoot,melee,axe,shoot melee
Fun fact.
In High elo. Noone wants to stay on payload.
In low elo. Everybody want to stay on payload.
Fun fact no one wants to stay on play load ever no matter the rank
@@kurumi5850 you have never been lower than diamond then. Even gold/plats group up near payload like chickens, instead of moving around the map, taking space.
1228 = 51 days...
Shooting Doom block is 100% worse but also… This is a rare exception. Any cc even if it’s knife really, should be used against Doom block. Now with Knife and Rock depending on the state of how much dmg those abilities deal and how much mit it takes to get empowered punch, those two abilities can be free empowered punches. Very situational on when you wanna allow that for Doom. Another good thing to mention is that there’s no overflow or double charge, once Doom has empowered punch he has it, if he’s glowing suddenly shooting the block is viable.
and to be fair at 15 minutes i thought i could knife the doom back up to kill him with my team there.
Bow down to your Queen
I think i had this guy in one of my games a Junker Queen player with gm title in plat and he kinda rolled us, but could have been a different player
That must have been a different guy. They are in the YT comments saying they are actually gold and think they deserve plat.
Shouldn't they learn tank in a non competitive setting?
They like to throw on a smurf.
11:37 DAM THAT WAS SATISFYING BUT MAN AM I JEALOUS
The biggest issue I see is their aim. They keep missing knives and axe swinging nobody. To play junkerqueen at a high level, you need to be hitting those knives because they get so much value. It’s similar to a roadhog hook.
As an ex support now tank main, it depends on the hero like if we’re running Bap + Lucio I probably don’t want my tank taking a ton of spam dmg. However if we’re running Ana + Kiri… Feed me.
Likely a junkrat gm dps that benefited from the rank inflation
This guy isn’t GM or master on any role.
15:30 as a doom connoisseur empowered punch is OP. It is 100% true that you shouldn’t shoot doom block. It is never worth giving doom empowered punch.
If Doom engages with slam there’s no reason to not shoot block if you all focus him. Once his block ends he has no choice but to punch out anyway and if he gets greedy and all-ins with no CDs he should be in the respawn screen
there are times when you should shoot him, same thing for zarya. i think people who say NEVER shoot doom block is low elo
As a doom player please listen to these guys. Shoot my block which is usually just me buying time for my abilities to come back. Doom block has 90% dm there is no point in shooting him. If he doesn’t get healed he’ll fall over and if he does he gets out with empowered. The amount of times I’m low hp and I get a 3 man punch and still live would shock you.
Alright so...
No way this guy is GM.
I know i know, plat chat speaking o ver here, but common, he doesn't play around cover AT ALL. He just ran in like a headless chicken, no regrouping, pure TDM strats.
Something in me just doesn't believe you get to GM without either of those, no matter the role.
That or they think they don't need either to win games in plat, in which case this video was a bad attempt at ego.
Now I understand why I am in master lobbies as OW1 plat tank.
He lied about being gm on other roles
Use it to burst back to cart. Get back to the team fight faster from respawn.
No it is pretty obvious they sold last push. Like not even playing 100% sold it was 100% on the tank. Look where the entire team is look where the cart is and where it needs to get to. After all that one can say with 100% accuracy that the tank sold this game 100%. (Team was at least 20m back tank was feeding vs 4, cart was still far no reason to to play on it like that they could’ve played farther back. 100% tank sold and should get avoided
Should they change things so the cart moves at 1 person speed if no one's touching it? It would make things a lot more TDM, but it seems like pretty bad game design to have things where optimal play requires one person to opt out of most of the game. It's got so bad I've even tried to specially not care about the payload for games but I just can't have fun playing knowing everything I'm doing is for nothing because the cart is just sitting there.
No, that would just switch what team is always down one. One defender would constantly be out of the fight just sitting on point making sure it doesn't move. Would also make it impossible to draw games with cheaters on those maps (if people still do that)
Hold tf on. My overwatch name is Doodlebob. That threw me for a loop since this is the 3rd one I have found.
Love your videos
im in gold. now i dont play JQ or doom. but i found mouga is pretty good with countering doom. maybe not for high rank but i just won a game we should have lost but i switched and held em off pretty easily.
Honestly, that's all it takes.
Tank giving you trouble? Just switch
Not sire how thos giu could be a gm support player when he is noting helping hos teammates at all with shout.
That jq was secretly me I’m hard Stuck gold but I know I deserve at least platinum anything in plat I will be ok with
You deserve gold
@@thenewkidthenewkid1128 bro what’s the point of being a bitch like that just don’t be negative find a way to be positive ok be nice for once bro don’t be a dick
what do you do better then gold players that screams you’re a plat player
@@vex9179 nah this is why the internet is so toxic what rank are you then buddy
@@Agentmgd82 you’re the one who said you deserve a better rank, and a simple question why is toxic? your weird stay in the metal ranks buddy
What dps did they play? junk rat? Bro has zero aim with that knife for a Gm player
noish
This guy is just too clueless and mediocre aim to be anything above plat...