@MichiganGreatOutdoors 2nd this comment. I'm pretty athletic but I've avoided using aiders on anything other then my bottom stick. Mainly because I didn't trust the material. With all due respect, it's good to see a larger guy use these cable aiders without any issues. Makes me feel more comfortable with using 2 aiders and 3 sticks this year. Being 5'10 I'm gonna run 3 beast sticks, 22 inch aider on the bottom, 18 inch on the second stick and some good spacing I hope to get around 18ft-20ft.
Well, been a month since I swapped out the Beast hardware to shorter tubes, being working on my leg strength/flexibility , have lost some more weight, anyway, ordered another 18" cable aider, and have put all the hardware back on the 24" sticks, went on my 3rd saddle hunt for pigs last Saturday, was able to get to 20' on the tree, had to "mod" the cables a little. I found that the cables didn't stay open like they did when new. My weight I quess, anyway, bought some nylon braided hose/tubing with a 1/2" inner diameter, cut it into 6" lengths, threaded them onto the cables. Now, I can fully step into the cables even with my big mud boots. spent 5 hours in the tree, saw a coyote that was all. getting more comfortable/confident with each sit. thanks for your videos. keep it up
Thats awesome you were able to get back yo the 24inch tube! Did u see the new sticks they came out with solid tubes? With no holes? Im thinking about getting some. Thanks for supporting the channel! 👊
Yeah kinda, When I bought my original beast sticks they were $80 per stick. Now there $95. Plus the ones with holes in them all bent on me. So I had to get a replacement set and sell them. I guess 260lbs is too much for them.....
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I bet the ones that bent were the ones that didn't have the corner of the tree bracket rounded off, those seem to "slide into" the bark, not "hang up"/ stuck in the bark, the weight was not that much of a factor
No, I bent 2 sets. They had the rounded off brackets. The problem is the tubes. Too many holes. For guys that weigh under 250lbs it doesn't seem to be an issue. The holes really reduce strength of the tube. Plus both sets I had were made in China too so maybe that had something to do with the bending. Either way I was never able to get a real answer out of the hunting beast as tk why they are bending. They just replaced them bo questions asked. My theory is that they came out with the new tube design to combat this problem with heavier guys. Ive talked to at least 4 other heavier beast stick owners who all bent thier sticks. All 4 never got an answer as to why they bent either.
Have you had any issues with the fixed bracket attaching to trees? I've used full sticks and my trees are commonly crooked or gnarly one way or another. Do you have any experience with that. Plus what is your primary sticks you run?
Hey stupid question but I just got mine today and I noticed the want to hug the tree instead of sticking out to make it easier to get your foot into it ...logic says to just flip it but then the eyelets don't sit flush against the step
I have 4 of the 24” sticks and was going to add another and ditch the aiders. I emailed them and was able to pick up a “scratch & dent” 24” stick. It’s only cosmetic, which doesn’t matter because I stealth strip them anyway.
Well, have a question, my cable aiders don't stick out from the stick/tree anymore. Probably my weight I quess, anyway I solved the problem of the cables being open enough to put your boot. The problem I have is the cable hang directly down from the stick. Trying to place enough of my boot into the aider, can't seem to get the aider to position in the middle of my boot, ends up on the ball of my foot. Need more "purchase" of the aider to confidently place weight on it to step up to the next step. Am toying around with the idea of slightly "bending" the ends of the cables, therefore forcing the cable to stick further out from the tree. What do you think? Do you think it would "weaken" the metal, reducing the strength of the cable end? Give your thoughts
I dont think id bend the actual cable. Might kink and create a weak point. I know the LWCG aiders Andrae says to bend the tabs out to get the aider to stick out some. I think bending the tabs would be the safer bet.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Man what a response time, you the Man!!! Where did you get the info about bending the tabs? That is what I meant. I also, made a webbing aider like the one on Bowhunter.Tv video. It allows me to swing out the bottom of the aider to catch it with the middle of my boot. The only draw back is that you can drop it. I dropped it this afternoon, had to climb back down to get it. BTW, saw a sow with some piglets but too much brush for a shot. Appreciate the help
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Well, fixed the problem, went ahead and bent the tabs slightly forward, now when the stick is on the tree, the bottom of the cable loop is about 7,8 " from the tree vs 3". able to fit my boot into the aider fully. will see how it works next Saturday.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I am currently about 250 lbs, trying to lose more weight before next season, In your personal opinion, would I run into any problems with these aiders?
Got my 3 aiders from EWO, they are great, stay open for a secure climb up and down, swapped out my sticks for something 19", have 4 sticks, use the hardware from the Beast Sticks, they are great, the whole package got me to 16 feet today, my personal highest, am very height scared, they are great. Made the mistake of getting the longer Beast Sticks, physically couldn't get the height step to step on the longer stick, simply swapped out to a shorter tube, Get 4 1/2 feet per stick , getting more practice, for a newbie to saddle hunting this coming year. appreciate your videos
Thats awesome man! Congrats on overcoming the fear of heights! It hard for me to comprehend that because its never been an issue for me but glad to hear your working through it! Ive been making some sticks of my own using common parts. Might make a video on that soon.
6:08- what straps are you using to secure your sticks to the tree? Looks like Versa Straps but I don’t recognize that color of strap unless Tethrd used to sell them in green.
How tall are just 2 of the mini Beast sticks when stacked together ?? I wanted a full set but they are just too darn tall to deal with going thru super thick brush, so I am considering using my Cranford steps to get up the first 12 feet then using 2 Beast sticks with aiders to make it to 20 feet (or at least close). And if you can also tell me how tall 3 stacked together come to, i might just do 3 of them... thanks a lot !!!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors wow that's disappointing news about the sticks. Now i see why you'd be reluctant to throw down $625 for a beast stand. I might have to find me a cheaper lightweight stand also, not sure 625 is in my budget for something to stand on.
@@MexicanMovie yeah im pretty bummed out to be honest.... I really loved the sticks. I dont get it either cause im 260 lbs and it says 300lb rating and I know other guys heavier than me claim they dont bend but ive bent 2 sets now..... sooo either them other folks aren't telling me the truth or somethings wrong with the way I use them but I doubt that cause I set them just like Dan shows how in all his videos.... so I dunno man.... im just real dissatisfied in the tube strength. I havent made a big deal about it so I just moved on. I miss them for hanging stands forsure tho!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I saw a couple people online mentioning that only people using aiders were bending them. I'm gonna be using aiders so hopefully i won't be the next one....
How do you feel about the wire aiders on your feet. I use tubular webbing aiders with garden hose currently. I worry that the wire will bind like crazy and pinch the crap out of my foot. I tend to wear stiff soled shoes while saddle hunting bit i wonder abt when i wear thin rubber boots
It doesnt bother me at all, just double checked today. Then remember I set cameras in August with it and just forgot. Its a non issue for me. Someone said that they can make some noise with rubber boots when wet but I haven't experienced that yet.
Look into Titan Straps for securing the sticks. They are basically like long silicone straps that use a watchband style securing. They work better than the Nite Ize because you can really crank them tight. Keeps the sticks more secure. I used the same nite ize gear tie last yr and it was OK but it already wore through the rubber coating and exposed the wire. I think the titan strap will work better for me this year. They are more expensive tho
Just out of curiosity what are you using to carry your sticks on the way up the tree? Also do you carry 3 up, or hang the first 2 then carry 2? I currently have 2 loops of paracord on the sides of my harness that I hang two of them from.
Hey sorry I missed this comment. I hang first 2 then put my stand on my back and hang the sticks off my sides with shock cord and 2 carbeaners and climb up in 1 trip.
The cable aiders are a complete game changer. The only other kind of aider I’d ever consider now is a moveable one that is cinched around the foot, but it’s got to be slower and not quite as safe in my mind. Anyhow, with light, early season hunting clothes on and a lot of stretching, the cable aiders let me get just as high with my cut down Helium’s as I can my full length Helium’s because I can’t hang a stick any higher than I can reach, no matter the stick length. Yeah, I just figured that out this morning in the yard lol. Hopefully they hold up well for us. Think I’ll wrap a bit of reflective tape around the center of them for climbing in the dark unless you know of a better idea. Come to think about it, the only reflective tape I have is thin pin stripe tape. Something wider would probably stay on better. Any suggestions?
Honestly I think the cable aider is the best for the simple reason is that its always gonna be in the same spot, it holds it shape nicely and u can feel it with your foot on the way down. Something reflective might be a good idea in the dark as long as its not glowing in the sun during the day.
I stealth stripped my EWO aiders and there literally is zero noise. I also put my 18in aider on the bottom bolt and they still stack fine. Not sure if that's because I stealth stripped the tubes as well? The 18in aider hooks prefectly around the Beast Button and has zero movement. Good video btw.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors the 18inchers are short enough that you can just pull it up straight vertically and hook the top of the aider around the top of the beast button without having to twist the cable up. If I get longer ones, I will use you method.
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@MichiganGreatOutdoors 2nd this comment. I'm pretty athletic but I've avoided using aiders on anything other then my bottom stick. Mainly because I didn't trust the material. With all due respect, it's good to see a larger guy use these cable aiders without any issues. Makes me feel more comfortable with using 2 aiders and 3 sticks this year. Being 5'10 I'm gonna run 3 beast sticks, 22 inch aider on the bottom, 18 inch on the second stick and some good spacing I hope to get around 18ft-20ft.
I just got the gen 3 one stix....and I was blown away! Awesome
Right on!
Well, been a month since I swapped out the Beast hardware to shorter tubes, being working on my leg strength/flexibility , have lost some more weight, anyway, ordered another 18" cable aider, and have put all the hardware back on the 24" sticks, went on my 3rd saddle hunt for pigs last Saturday, was able to get to 20' on the tree, had to "mod" the cables a little. I found that the cables didn't stay open like they did when new. My weight I quess, anyway, bought some nylon braided hose/tubing with a 1/2" inner diameter, cut it into 6" lengths, threaded them onto the cables. Now, I can fully step into the cables even with my big mud boots. spent 5 hours in the tree, saw a coyote that was all. getting more comfortable/confident with each sit. thanks for your videos. keep it up
Thats awesome you were able to get back yo the 24inch tube! Did u see the new sticks they came out with solid tubes? With no holes? Im thinking about getting some. Thanks for supporting the channel! 👊
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors yeah, the new sticks are more economical, kinda like the holes, both would work great
Yeah kinda, When I bought my original beast sticks they were $80 per stick. Now there $95. Plus the ones with holes in them all bent on me. So I had to get a replacement set and sell them. I guess 260lbs is too much for them.....
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I bet the ones that bent were the ones that didn't have the corner of the tree bracket rounded off, those seem to "slide into" the bark, not "hang up"/ stuck in the bark, the weight was not that much of a factor
No, I bent 2 sets. They had the rounded off brackets. The problem is the tubes. Too many holes. For guys that weigh under 250lbs it doesn't seem to be an issue. The holes really reduce strength of the tube. Plus both sets I had were made in China too so maybe that had something to do with the bending. Either way I was never able to get a real answer out of the hunting beast as tk why they are bending. They just replaced them bo questions asked. My theory is that they came out with the new tube design to combat this problem with heavier guys. Ive talked to at least 4 other heavier beast stick owners who all bent thier sticks. All 4 never got an answer as to why they bent either.
Have you had any issues with the fixed bracket attaching to trees? I've used full sticks and my trees are commonly crooked or gnarly one way or another. Do you have any experience with that. Plus what is your primary sticks you run?
No, never with these. These sticks are some of the best on the market for that. I run these when zi saddle hunt and lwcg with my tree stsnd.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors thanks.
Thanks for putting the bolt length in the video. I grabbed some 1 1/4" from the hardware store and you're right, that length is perfect.
Awesome!!
Hey stupid question but I just got mine today and I noticed the want to hug the tree instead of sticking out to make it easier to get your foot into it ...logic says to just flip it but then the eyelets don't sit flush against the step
Sorry Joe, Missed this comment is this still an issue for you?
Are those the 20 inch beast mini sticks? I wish Dan still made the 24 inch sticks. Selling some other sticks to get beast sticks.
No those were full size sticks. The 24"@
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors thanks man!
I have 4 of the 24” sticks and was going to add another and ditch the aiders. I emailed them and was able to pick up a “scratch & dent” 24” stick. It’s only cosmetic, which doesn’t matter because I stealth strip them anyway.
@@arkieoutdoors397 recently? I thought they did away with the 24s"
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I believe they did do away with them. I’m assuming it’s some sticks they still had leftover. It was earlier this week.
Well, have a question, my cable aiders don't stick out from the stick/tree anymore. Probably my weight I quess, anyway I solved the problem of the cables being open enough to put your boot. The problem I have is the cable hang directly down from the stick. Trying to place enough of my boot into the aider, can't seem to get the aider to position in the middle of my boot, ends up on the ball of my foot. Need more "purchase" of the aider to confidently place weight on it to step up to the next step. Am toying around with the idea of slightly "bending" the ends of the cables, therefore forcing the cable to stick further out from the tree. What do you think? Do you think it would "weaken" the metal, reducing the strength of the cable end? Give your thoughts
I dont think id bend the actual cable. Might kink and create a weak point. I know the LWCG aiders Andrae says to bend the tabs out to get the aider to stick out some. I think bending the tabs would be the safer bet.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Man what a response time, you the Man!!! Where did you get the info about bending the tabs? That is what I meant. I also, made a webbing aider like the one on Bowhunter.Tv video. It allows me to swing out the bottom of the aider to catch it with the middle of my boot. The only draw back is that you can drop it. I dropped it this afternoon, had to climb back down to get it. BTW, saw a sow with some piglets but too much brush for a shot. Appreciate the help
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@@MichiganGreatOutdoors appreciate it
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Well, fixed the problem, went ahead and bent the tabs slightly forward, now when the stick is on the tree, the bottom of the cable loop is about 7,8 " from the tree vs 3". able to fit my boot into the aider fully. will see how it works next Saturday.
I just bought the cable aiders for beast sticks and they give the correct bolt now. They have packs for each specific climbing stick which is great.
Good to know!!
Do you think these would work with the Hawk Helium 20"?
I dont believe ive ever saw any of these on Hawk Heliums.
awesome vid man.
Thanks bud 👊
wondering what is the weight limit for the aiders?
You know thats a good question. I need to find out.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I am currently about 250 lbs, trying to lose more weight before next season, In your personal opinion, would I run into any problems with these aiders?
@@arthurcarstens dude I was 260 all last deer season no problems. It does kinda bother me that they dont have a rating now though...
man, I appreciate your time and help, have a great weekend
@@arthurcarstens you too man. Im gonna message eastern woods outdoors and find out.
Got my 3 aiders from EWO, they are great, stay open for a secure climb up and down, swapped out my sticks for something 19", have 4 sticks, use the hardware from the Beast Sticks, they are great, the whole package got me to 16 feet today, my personal highest, am very height scared, they are great. Made the mistake of getting the longer Beast Sticks, physically couldn't get the height step to step on the longer stick, simply swapped out to a shorter tube, Get 4 1/2 feet per stick , getting more practice, for a newbie to saddle hunting this coming year. appreciate your videos
Thats awesome man! Congrats on overcoming the fear of heights! It hard for me to comprehend that because its never been an issue for me but glad to hear your working through it! Ive been making some sticks of my own using common parts. Might make a video on that soon.
6:08- what straps are you using to secure your sticks to the tree? Looks like Versa Straps but I don’t recognize that color of strap unless Tethrd used to sell them in green.
Eastern woods outdoors versa straps
How tall are just 2 of the mini Beast sticks when stacked together ?? I wanted a full set but they are just too darn tall to deal with going thru super thick brush, so I am considering using my Cranford steps to get up the first 12 feet then using 2 Beast sticks with aiders to make it to 20 feet (or at least close). And if you can also tell me how tall 3 stacked together come to, i might just do 3 of them... thanks a lot !!!
Sorry I dont have the beast sticks anymore. they were bending for me cause im too heavy so I traded them for mini LWCG sticks.....
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors wow that's disappointing news about the sticks. Now i see why you'd be reluctant to throw down $625 for a beast stand. I might have to find me a cheaper lightweight stand also, not sure 625 is in my budget for something to stand on.
@@MexicanMovie yeah im pretty bummed out to be honest.... I really loved the sticks. I dont get it either cause im 260 lbs and it says 300lb rating and I know other guys heavier than me claim they dont bend but ive bent 2 sets now..... sooo either them other folks aren't telling me the truth or somethings wrong with the way I use them but I doubt that cause I set them just like Dan shows how in all his videos.... so I dunno man.... im just real dissatisfied in the tube strength. I havent made a big deal about it so I just moved on. I miss them for hanging stands forsure tho!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I saw a couple people online mentioning that only people using aiders were bending them. I'm gonna be using aiders so hopefully i won't be the next one....
@@MexicanMovie thats interesting 🤔 wonder why an aider would do that.....
Easy to cut the bolt down and paint the shiny bits before putting them on....great vid
Good tip LOL, I just wanted to spray them and get it over with.... the paint didnt really hold up anyway. Thanks for watching!!
If you spin the aiders the same direction the cable should lay flat. Spinning them opposite ways flips it inside out .....
Nice tip! 👊
You make some of the best videos for this type of hunting situation. Keep it up. I have enjoyed them all!
Thank you! I really appreciate that 💪
What size Beast sticks were you using in this video? Thanks for sharing
Full size beasts 24"
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Thanks, was wondering if that 22 inch step spread would be to much. I'm 5'11''.
Yeah its pretty big, im 511 too and didnt mind it so much but its definitely a big step!!
Are those the 20 inch minis or 24 inch standards that you use in video?
The full length sticks.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors awesome man just subscribed. Good video
@@luisrosales5011 thanks my man!! Ill have some good stuff coming in the next few few weeks!!
how many feet up were you able to get? And are these the 20 or 24 inch? assuming 24
these are the 24" I can get 20 foot no problem.
I think if you order now you can select new bolt to fit
Awesome!
I lost you in the tree😆 Great video brother. Very educational. Thx
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Great video thank you for taking the time to put this together
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice to see ya... love the Beast
Yeah buddy!
Nice channel man, just gave you a sub!
Awesome thank you! Im heading to check out some of yours too.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors thx!
Are the better than timber ninjas?
Not sure
How do you feel about the wire aiders on your feet. I use tubular webbing aiders with garden hose currently. I worry that the wire will bind like crazy and pinch the crap out of my foot. I tend to wear stiff soled shoes while saddle hunting bit i wonder abt when i wear thin rubber boots
It doesnt bother me at all, just double checked today. Then remember I set cameras in August with it and just forgot. Its a non issue for me. Someone said that they can make some noise with rubber boots when wet but I haven't experienced that yet.
Check out Titan Straps in place of the Nite Izes gear tie.
Thanks Ill do that!
Keep up the great videos. Stay Safe and healthy.
Thanks, good luck this season!
Look into Titan Straps for securing the sticks. They are basically like long silicone straps that use a watchband style securing. They work better than the Nite Ize because you can really crank them tight. Keeps the sticks more secure. I used the same nite ize gear tie last yr and it was OK but it already wore through the rubber coating and exposed the wire. I think the titan strap will work better for me this year. They are more expensive tho
Thanks ill order some and check them out!
what length titan straps did you get? and for how many sticks?
Just out of curiosity what are you using to carry your sticks on the way up the tree? Also do you carry 3 up, or hang the first 2 then carry 2? I currently have 2 loops of paracord on the sides of my harness that I hang two of them from.
Hey sorry I missed this comment. I hang first 2 then put my stand on my back and hang the sticks off my sides with shock cord and 2 carbeaners and climb up in 1 trip.
Nice hat!!! That shop is amazing. Wayne’s a solid dude
Yeah man! Makes me wanna move to Oregon!
The cable aiders are a complete game changer. The only other kind of aider I’d ever consider now is a moveable one that is cinched around the foot, but it’s got to be slower and not quite as safe in my mind. Anyhow, with light, early season hunting clothes on and a lot of stretching, the cable aiders let me get just as high with my cut down Helium’s as I can my full length Helium’s because I can’t hang a stick any higher than I can reach, no matter the stick length. Yeah, I just figured that out this morning in the yard lol. Hopefully they hold up well for us. Think I’ll wrap a bit of reflective tape around the center of them for climbing in the dark unless you know of a better idea. Come to think about it, the only reflective tape I have is thin pin stripe tape. Something wider would probably stay on better. Any suggestions?
Honestly I think the cable aider is the best for the simple reason is that its always gonna be in the same spot, it holds it shape nicely and u can feel it with your foot on the way down. Something reflective might be a good idea in the dark as long as its not glowing in the sun during the day.
Great video! Perfect timing, too...just ordered a set of four (18") from EWO last night. Best of luck this season!
Thanks and you too!
I can’t afford 4 beast stix lol beast gear isn’t for the blue collar man in today’s economy that’s for sure
They had a great sale on them for black friday.
Awesome video - what did you use to bolt all the sticks together. Please share.
8 3/8th long 5/16th metal rod
How much did those sticks and aiders weigh? Thanks for sharing !
7.5 lbs 4 sticks 4 aiders, nothing else. Just weighed it brother!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors That’s the 24” sticks?
@@brandonjernigan1968 correct.
How much cost in total once rigged out ?
I stealth stripped my EWO aiders and there literally is zero noise. I also put my 18in aider on the bottom bolt and they still stack fine. Not sure if that's because I stealth stripped the tubes as well? The 18in aider hooks prefectly around the Beast Button and has zero movement. Good video btw.
Thanks, Do you spin the aider up as well for packing?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors the 18inchers are short enough that you can just pull it up straight vertically and hook the top of the aider around the top of the beast button without having to twist the cable up. If I get longer ones, I will use you method.
That makes sense!
U should spray paint before u install it
Yeah, I shoulda lol. Oh well 🤷♂️