Also he said after 12 months the face will return to its original state.. thats a good thing! Meaning my face will be 36 not 37. Also gravity won't affect the face the same way. Lets say you slept and wore a bra 24/7 for 5 years. That means your skin will be more intact and your chest won't droop as much.
I just had my jowls lifted three weeks ago. Very pleased with the results. I was told they’ll last about a year and I’ll need maintenance of them. But they also do build your own collagen.I’ll definitely keep doing them
Do you mind telling me which thread lift you use. I'm thinking doing it but my doctor told spring thread lift will be good and last at least 3 years. I don't really what to do. It will be very nice if you reply to me. Thanks for sharing, I appreciated.
@@idilahmed6816 I actually dont remember but they were disolvable. I did it in Thailand. The name of the clinic is Juthamas Laser and Cosmetology. She has a Facebook Page.
I like that they are not permanent. Gives you a year to decide if you REALLY want to get a surgical facelift. Also many of us simply can not afford a surgical facelift, but threads ARE affordable. Not a waste at all. Also they work as a filler and improve texture of skin, they really helped me with some scars that were sunk in. Always good to keep an open mind.
@@queridamarilyn3632 so is a forum, people ask questions, make statments, i dont care for botox cause is not fixing anything, my friend wants this, reason why i ask, she wants my advice, not to pick an argument with some bored woman, i would just get a face lift and some laser after that.
@@Menagerie_K hahaha I like how you think... I think😂🤣 (just checking, ✔ we're both laughing because this video 📹wasn't about facial hair threading, and this comment thread has unaware people, right?)😂🤣😎✌🏽
Here in Stockholm, thread lift is popular and the doctors usually inform the patients that it will only last for a year. So it’s up to the patient if she/he wants to do it. Not a waste of money I think, because you’ll look younger for a year anyway! It is affordable, can save some money for next year’s thread lift again 😊
Botox is the golden standard for wrinkles and filler is the golden standard to modestly alter features or replace loss facial volume. The purpose is different
DO NOT get a thread lift, it's horrific. I had one recently and it's caused nothing but pain and anxiety. I've done fillers, botox and microneedling without any issues for years, but thread lift was a nightmare. First, the procedure itself was very painful. I then had extreme nerve-related pain, like a stabbing pain everytime I moved my face a certain way for almost three weeks. I then developed a fibroma in my right jaw, with swelling, like a "ball" under my skin. I got my money back but I'm now having to get hyaloronidase injections to soften the fibroma. It's been horrible and I'm worried I'm never going to get rid of this fibroma. Please be safe.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. Anxiety and nightmare results are exactly what I got from my thread lift as well. I'm right at the three month mark and I've hated my results since day 1. Absolute horrific garbage. I regret doing this procedure. I hope the results fade soon bc I can't take it anymore.
I had threads put in the vermillion border of my lips and it made them gorgeous and lasted for over a year. Much better look than the duck lips filler gives.
@@innerview6298 What it did for my lips was create a more prominent edge around them and pulled the top lip up slightly. Made them gorgeous. I had no side effects. I would do it again. The threads in the lips don't stretch the skin. That would be the barbed threads for the face. And the threads grow collagen around them.
@@rinanova1463 If you live in America, there are many medi spas that do threads. I do know a doctor in Vegas who specializes in them. Spring Mountain Aesthetics
The way I see it is that PDO threadlifts are a way to get the lift without the surgery and the cost and downtime of surgery. Not everyone is a good candidate. I for one dont care if it lasts 6-12 mos, I'll just go in and get more. It is much cheaper than surgery and for best results it can used with kybella or fillers.
I had this procedure 2 months ago, it definitely lifted and i need to go back to do another one soon, since it may take up to 1-2 sessions to see desired result, like for me. I'm liking it, but my recovery has taken at least 2 weeks. And If i smiled, it felt like pulling the thread in my brow. Only for a short while though, and then I got what I almost wanted. Now i need my next session 🙈
Dr. Youn, we've always respected you and we agree with a lot of what you've said here, but we want to make 1 clear distinction: Thread Lifts are a great option for those who don't mind spending more to avoid surgery and have a shortened downtime. We've had several mother-of-the-brides and mother-of-the-grooms do these just a month or two prior to the wedding and be tremendously happy. Of course we're always clear that the results don't last more than 1 year (at most), but we also don't charge what a facelift would cost (Thread lifts are around $3500 -$5500 at our practice vs. a facelift is $7k - 15k depending on the add-ons you choose). We agree that for a patient who's willing to have surgery, and who has the time for that extended recovery, a facelift almost always makes more sense long-term, but we also know there are a lot of patients who are happy with a temporary improvement so long as they can avoid surgery. Why not offer both? We believe offering a wide array of treatments is in the best interest of the patient.
I see some good points in your reply, but there is a bigger problem here that is yet to be fully elucidated, and that is seen repeatedly clinically with multiple exposures to thread lifts. The article Dr. Youn refers to in the video mentions this problem, and as surgeons who perform multiple facelifts, we are able to identify it when the facial tissue is in our hands. Namely, it is the process of "cheese grating", whereby the facial muscular contractions lead to repeated rubbing of the soft tissue against the "barbs". Although many of today's threads are absorbable, it takes several weeks to months before they are dissolved, often resulting in many weeks to months of exposure to this harmful kinetic movement. I have rarely seen more fibrotic tissue than when I have operated on a patient with multiple thread lifts or with multiple injections of semi-permanent fillers. Often patients with multiple exposures to thread lifts complain that their face no longer feels natural, but rather rubbery and hard. There is a level of truth to this and it has to be explained to patients. At the same time, you are right that some patients will simply never succumb to a knife, and there are also a significant number of patients who are not candidates for surgery (i.e. smokers). It is these patients who will look for gratifying solutions that may not last long, but offer some respite in the meantime. For such patients, we have technologies and combinations that can result in excellent results and they are all summarized succinctly in another video by Dr. Youn that can be viewed here: th-cam.com/video/mEeLMq9EfMI/w-d-xo.html. I prefer these approaches to thread lifts as the type of collagen produced is much more in keeping with the natural collagen that we have in our bodies, and I have rarely received the complaints I receive from patients with multiple thread lift treatments. I still offer thread lifts from time to time, especially for patients who would like relatively quick results, but with the caveat that I will only ever perform such lifts up to three times in a life time. I also want to share that this post is not designed to undermine any particular treatment or to arrogantly refuse to accept that there are always new treatments that will emerge in time. It is just to state the realities of what I have found in over 10 years of advanced facial surgical and non-surgical treatments Fadi Hamadani, MD Plastic and Aesthetic Surgeon KOL, Inmode Aesthetics (Facetite, Acutite, Morpheus) Merz Certified Clinical Instructor KOL, Apyx Medical (Renuvion)
Poor pathetic advertising. This doctor is making a clear distinction temporary versus permanent. Providing medical science fact information to prospective patients.
I'm still going to get the procedure done. It worked very well for my sister and lasted about a year. Don't care that results aren't permanent. I can do it again.
Dr Youn’s skin creams are at the very high end (aka huge markups) of the price scale and we know creams (besides a retinoid and sunscreen) have minimal results too.
Dissenting opinion: No decent Dr should be saying this is permanent. It is temporary and when done right on the right candidates, it does lift and work most definitely. Acne scars and depressed labial lines can be plumped up but of course lifting is most notable on the 35 to 55 age with sagging jowls and depressed, exaggerated nasolabial folds. The impact is most immediate and does become longer lasting effect compared to fillers alone. No general anesthesia, fraction of the cost, risk is low. To say he knows this is a non starter is really disingenuous. It isn't provided as a one time treatment nor that all people will be prime candidates. Defining lip lines is my favorite as filler is too hard to control fine details. This is a good treatment and the fact that it is resorbs makes it safer than the permanent versions. Look for before and afters pics. There are plenty of good visuals. The articles are comparing threads to Long term results akin to Plastic surgery results....More invasive and risky but longer lasting.
Hello dr. Youn, you are of course right about the duration of the threadlifts. However, in europe at least they cost around 200 euros (while you need to triple the amount of money for a filler (undereye, to lift a bit of sagging from bone loss at jaw level, anything more than that is really expensive). HA lasts six months or less as a filler as far as I know. Most of the plastic surgeons tell you that the threads last 1 year and if the doctor is talented the result is pretty good. I had both fillers and threads - not at the same time. I started from the age of 32, so the changes that I had (and needed) were really subtle. Except for the time that i used radiesse (which resulted in "cellulite"appearance and I wouldn't recommend), I had to inject HA again after 7 mostly 9 months. I read that HA can last up to 18 months ( I wonder which formulation and other terms and conditions, eg. a person's physiology probably?) Not to say that from the threads I was really excited to gain very very cute dimples (yes yes yes) as I smile (and I was always jealous of the persons with dimples). In my opinion, as a "patient" threads are not that bad value for money if someone cannot afford fillers, but fillers give more youthfull appearance since they restore volume.
While I wholeheartedly agree with the majority of dr Youn's opinions on aesthetic medical procedures, I strongly disagree with the statements made in this video. I don't think one can generalise when it comes to the efficacy of thread lifts, as there are so many types of threads available on the market- PDO, PCA, PLA, mono threads, cogs.. the list goes on. Depending on the type of threads, amount of threads administered and the injection protocol of the treatment, a long lasting effect can be sustained. Aside from a 'physical lift' that threads may initially provide, as they gradually dissolve, they stimulate the production of collagen in the treated area and help rejuvenate the tissue long after the threads themselves have dissolved. This in turn can make for a denser, healthier dermis which 'holds up' for far far longer than the 1 year quoted here.
yeah, people like Dr. Rajni are all for them (and sculptra too), Dr Youn seems to be ok with sculptra too though. I don't think they'd be so popular in S korea and Europe if the scar tissue really affected having a face lift later..if anything you'd have a nicer skin when it came time for a real face lift.
….. but PDO threads stimulate new collagen when the threads dissolve, so technically it’s NOT a “waste of money” if it’s actually doing something great to the skin and not just lifting the skin with no actual long term benefit. I know several people who get them done and they not only looking great with it but look great after the threads dissolve, especially if you redo the procedure every few months to a year. I think it’s definitely worth it & I can’t wait to get mine done this summer, though I don’t have “saggy eyelid” by any means (I’m 30), I just want a more “lifted/foxy” look 😊
Totally disagree. It has 82% approval on Real Self. The purpose is to give an immediate lift...And once the threads deserve to stimulate the body to produce more collagen creating a natural look. It's not the equivalent of a facelift, but it does do what it supposed to do.
A year has gone by and this doctor never bothered to respond to you. I agree with you, it's all about stimulating collagen grown. I'm just concerned about infection.
I thought the issue was that it wasn't the right kind of collagen that's produced. It won't make you look younger, you just produce more to try and heal the scar tissue created by the threads being forced through the skin.
@@dawnb2892 I don't think it'd be good for the skin in the long run. You're essentially pulling at the skin for months on end, eventually you'll just create more problems and end up looking older
@@beepspeep108 The products have been used for several years now. I don't see any real adverse effects from using threads on youtube; I find that odd though as with all procedures there are problems. I'm wary as well regarding skin threading use long term. I use the derma roller and have over the months had real improvements.
No one is claiming that thread lifts are permanent. It's like posting a video about Botox being not permanent and expensive. Well, duh, we know that but it's a good non-surgical alternative.
No one is saying it lasts years but your skin is only going to get worse in time the more and more thread lifts you get. Like pillow face after years of fillers. Might as well just bite the bullet and get a face lift which will last around 10 years instead of a thread lift (which gives minimal results anyway) every year.
@@xotennisxgirlox i don’t agree with you. Now threads are dissolvable, the threads are not staying inside your face, and I don’t see how that can get worse. On the other side, not everyone are candidates to a cosmetic surgery (bc of their age or bc of a health condition, etc). I had a c section back in 2006 and the anesthesia was so strong that now, if I go to the dentist and get localized anesthesia, my heart goes 🌪 trying to fight the anesthesia. Sometimes even to topical cream anesthesia. I will not undergo any cosmetic surgery bc I think my heart will not tolerate it. My docs says my heart is healthy and good but I trust my gut. With this what I want to say is that surgery is not for everyone. I believe threads are a good option to surgery. They are as effective as some fillers in my opinion. For someone like me who is starting to show signs of aging, I can’t do surgery. At least drs says I still don’t have a fixable problem. Fillers and threads are now my option.
# 1 thread lifting is used so so much in Europe ! experts do amazing work ! using most (smooth threads = small threads and not with barbs ) and are not expensive as it is in USA .#2 threads are not in place of other treatments ,like Botox or fillers . #3 threads support the skin and biodegrade after just few months and in place forms collagen #4 this treatment is grate for lower face and can be placed almost any were in face and body .#4 It is painless very natural ,I have had this experience TO HELP AND SUPPORT the skin .
I bought a book on amazon and learned to do the procedure on my self. The cost is $80 per bag of surgical grade pdo threads. I use the more simple one. One bag will allow you to do an entire face. There are some that cost a little bit more. It all depends on how long you want them to last.
@@bestforyouall looking at the overlaying maps of your veins your arteries all the blood vessels in your face how the nerves work and the muscle system in your face... There is no Muthfkn way I'm jamming a needle into my own face after reading a book I got on Amazon. HellNo! I get exactly one face to work with on this planet. And I'll be trusting it to trained medical professionals who have gone to medical school and work done on actual cadavers before they ever got to me . Please be careful.
Thanks for this helpful tip, Dr. Youn. I'm just not sure why your video included a pic of facial hair threading, which is an entirely different thing, and could be confusing to some!
Thanks for this video. I worked with a plastic and reconstructive surgeon, and we had to remove the threads (the permanent ones). People must understand that a facelift is not just "pulling the face." Instead, tissue is dissected, excess skin removed and skin is placed in a new "uplifted" position ... and then, the skin heals and holds in position (until normal aging continues). A lot can be done when the skin is held off the face. I would also love for you to do a piece on those stupid "faradic current" units that tweek the muscles (like a T.E.N.S. unit). These were developed in the 1920s, and make a come-back every few hears. They're "on us" yet again! Point: wrinkles don't happen in the muscles ... and the units are useless.
Hey; apparently 'Spring Threads' can last 3 or more years; I'm definitely IN!! *'rise in demand for thread lifts has corresponded with a drop in UK facelift market' - I can see why a facelift surgeon might dislike thread lifts but there's room for both? I don't think I'd ever have a f'l - what if it went wrong?! - but threads', I can do..
Threadlifts can “go wrong” too…you might want to check out some pics. The face looks scary and bumpy and weird where the barbs are and you can go numb and you can get nueralgia of the face. Nothing is without risk. At least a face lift is “permanent”.
He doesn't know the basics, first he says permanent threads don't work (not true, they did do very well what they intended to do), then he says (non-permanent) threads are less effective ??? Really? Like negative effect?! The PDO threads stimulate collagen production along their path for a year or more. More importantly, they don't intend to do what permanent threads do, their "scope of work" is different from permanent ones. In modern Aesthetic Medicine NOTHING is or should be permanent, our bodies constantly change, so do the aesthetic trends. That is why plastic surgeries and permanent threads leave the stage for non-permanent solutions (but of course some people hate that and pay for ads like this one). Today nobody injects silicone anymore.. cuz it's permanent.
Hi Heather! i love threadlifts. For me they work wonderfully! My only complaint is that they are expensive when they don't need to be. I am 77 years old and they take decades of years off of me. They only last around 6 months (for me). I am subtle with my cosmetic procedures. I am a cosmetologist/esthetician and have a system that works well for me. Nobody has guessed that i get botox and other fillers and threads. I use the hyaloron pen around my lips. Saves me tons of money. And i inject my botox in 2 places with short needles. However, the threads i leave to the doc to insert and have found one who works on me for between $550 and $700. h. People need differant applications. Go slow and don't over due treatment. God Bless!
I want to have this done. I don’t mind if it only lasts for one year. I’ll get it done again next year! I look at it as a treatment, like my C02 laser I had done 6 months ago! It’s called maintenance!
I agree with you they are not worth the cost but are they actually damaging to ur skin? I was still doing them bc of the collagen stimulating effects I believe they have. But if u think they are more damaging than stimulating I wold love to know. Thank u for ur vids!!!
Personally, I think all “Facelifts” should be avoided. One of my dearest friends recently had a facelift on the lower part of her face, a neck tightening, and some fat fillers, Botox, etc. She was very diligent in her research and used a licensed plastic surgeon. When the doctor & his staff saw her on her first return visit, they were shocked at how bruised she was...she was more black than blue, eyes swollen almost completely shut, and within a week of that first visit, developed a huge hematoma, about two inches thick and almost one inch deep, on her neck, from ear to ear. She had to go in twice a week and they literally had to “Strangle” the blood out of the hematoma, pushing the excess blood out a hole by her ear. Five weeks later, she still has a “cable” type knot of coagulated blood running from each ear towards her clavicle bone, which her surgeon says he “hopes” will reabsorb into her body in time. She hides these cables with her long hair. Does she look younger? Yes. Was it worth it? Well, she didn’t die. I’ll let you be the judge.
There is risks in all surgeries,that doesn’t mean it not a good surgeon, it means your friend was not a good candidate for a facelift, and that’s not always obvious till the patient is healing!
@@hellekimery9537 I agree. Not saying it was the surgeon’s fault. Nor was it my friend’s fault. Just saying this is the kind of risk you have to be willing to take, because no one knows if they are an appropriate candidate for surgery until during or after the surgery…of any kind. Some surgeries are necessary and life saving. The question people who are opting for elective surgery for the sake of looking better need to ask themselves is: Is this worth possibly having severe complications or even death? This woman is my oldest and closest friend. The fact that she could have died for the sake of a better neck/jawline is horrific to me.
@@cydkriletich6538 Absolutely!! And it can and does go wrong ! But obviously there are far more successful surgeries in plastic surgery or it simply would not be as popular - and they are! I think most women feel younger than they are and would like that to match their outsides… there is far more pressure on women to look younger and “ fresher” than they appear! The cost is huge so it’s not something you just jump into without doing your research and ask yourself “ is it worth it”? And I think for most women it IS worth that risk ! I am willing to take that risk with a great surgeon, as most complications IS minor .
But right now thread lifts are being marketed as temporary, like many other cosmetic surgeries. The benefits are said to be that they not only temporary lift an area, or smooth out the skin, but signal the area to build collagen as the threads dissolve. It sounds good... I would like him to address that. Maybe look at the ones Eva Mendes has been doing for reference. It's a procedure he hasn't convinced me not to have yet. ❤ I need more info.
Cali Love yeah i think virtually everything on the market now are the dissolvable ones. what shocked me personally is that it was sooo fast, and virtually pain free
Doctor is correct. I had a lift, I only wanted lift on right side. She said she had to do the entire face. I asked her for followup appointment, she said no followup. Nothing new day after or 6 mos after. Now I have bumps on my face. She was a doctor that had a write-up piece in the local new york paper. She was a horrible doctor. Very cold. Don’t get this done and ask questions. I went solely on the write-up she had.
Fillers migrate.. never again. Also the 12 months threads work they keep the area tight meaning gravity is not working as much. Lets say im 50 and do threads for 5 years. I'll still look younger than I would've without the threads. Right?
Thread lifts are evolving. PDO thread is now used as much to volumize or fill superficial rhytids. The results of judicious combinations of various treatments such as Threads, Filler as Radio Frequency, HIFU and RF Micro-needling with PRF can be both subtle and breath taking.
So all these people doing thread lifts online stating that it promotes collagen as an end result are actually misinformed ? What about the PDO thread lift that is to promote collagen once dissolved, leaving the user with a firmer face? Are they all wrong ?
Thank you for this confirmation, I was about to do this procedure. But being said that it only last 1 to 2 yrs I don't think I want to go an pay this money every yr.
I had thrwadlift done on my jaw line and cheek as I age (29) I notice my cheeks are droopy. So I did it as it’s minimally intrusive and no down time. The result is super minimal no one would notice but me, compare for the price I think that’s why he said it’s not worth it. But I will still do it for my neck I think.
Any new thoughts on this? There are so many threadlifts out there and I was wondering if the technology had improved. I have so much laxity under my jawline and a dr who o has done the best Botox I’ve ever had is recommending this. The Botox injections that she did lasted longer and seemed to be truly artistic so I tend to trust her. But I know everything is so sales driven.
I've been doing my own mono PDO threads and love the results, not sure why he is saying this? I do most treatments myself, botox, micro-needling, meso do your research buy good at-home devices and products, and start your journey. It's very rewarding.
I've started to notice the first signs of aging and don't particularly want to go the botox route (especially after seeing others eyebrows drop) and wanting a more natural appearance. Would those smaller PDO sugar threads then be an alternative treatment? Apparently they last 6 months or more which is ok to avoid looking too fake
This is what I’m thinking of doing(pdo threads) because they do build collagen. Botox made my eyelids and forehead droop so you are smart to avoid. It’s not worth it :(
Yes PDO, PCL, and plla threads are a great way to induce collagen. Though they do not last forever nor does the collagen induction, they do work for up to two years for the PCL type. I think there are a great alternative to surgery.
I thought they were collagen inducing too, but this video is 2 years old and the beauty industry is so rapidly moving he could be referring to a specific type.
People need to keep in mind these “TH-cam doctors” are sponsored by certain products and procedures and to take the advice with a grain of salt. He is trying to sell his service that he offers by trying to gain the trust of his followers by bashing another ones service. Marketing! :)
I had threads years ago...and slowly but surely they started to hurt. The reverse barbs would actually poke me from within. So when I had a facelift, I asked the surgeon to remove them. The newer PDO, dissolvable threads must be better.
Dr youn, my dr did say threadlift works just like fillers abt 9-12 mth it will dissolve eventually. he recommend thread lift of nose coz fillers will immigrate and expand. But thread won’t ! So he sells me like it’s a filler with e lift and definition without e expansion side ways. He did my bridge , ala n tip of nose , it’s very pretty. But it hurts like a bitch. After 15 mths , I went back for TOP up, but he advise me to just do e bridge only... coz there’s some risk but he Won’t say more. Can u advise me , is thread lift very dangerous but just no dr will tell u? I can’t see to find anything disadvantages , all talking abt it advantages only.
My doctor was honest that they’d last 12-18 months and I’m fine with that because it would feel worth it… unless - is there a different better option? Would love to know
Iam 37 years and smoker, I did thread lift 4 months ago . It's amazing the result unbelievable. I did it after filller pressure which make my skin sagging.
Positivity n truth travels much slower because humans are conditioned to listen to false stuff which spreads faster...thank Dr youn....keep up the good work....love you loads
Hi, my mom got this treatment like 3 years ago, then a year later she wants to get a lifting with plastic surgery, but the doctor that is famous at my Lil city refuse to do it, cause he said that because the threads she got fibrosis and nobody with those is a candidate for a face surgery
I've heard exactly the same thing from other aestheticians that unfortunately the threads tightening effect doesn't last more than a few months on alot of clients:(
I wouldn't call it a waste of money. We are upfront with the clients that it is temporary so they know what they are getting. It is far less costly and less risky than surgery and the results are very good so I don't see how its a bad thing. Botox and fillers wear off sooner and cost more in the long term. Overall, the modern threadlifts are a better value for the client.
I had a thread lift in my eyes (cat eye) and my cheeks (cog thread) after 2 weeks I barely see any changes of "lift". Maybe there is, 3%? But after 6 months my face and brows never change a bit, even if my doctor said it will last for 2 years. What last, my expectation lasted for nothing. Shoot. I wasted money for that cra*
In post Soviet countries, like Russia, Ukraine . . . they have been using the Threadlifts for many years . . . There are like million types of them. Dissolvable, non dissolvable . . . Indeed, they help. Maybe those, that dissolve - Just for one year, but still, the whole year your face is lifted. The ones that do not dissolve can keep your face lifted for much longer. Just the price is cheaper, like much cheaper than in US. My friend did this lift, she was in love with her lifted face) she looked very young
I had these done 2 weeks ago. OMG. what pain. Threads poking me under my chin. Last night I had one poking me under my tongue. I had to readjust them and it stopped then everything was inflamed. When I woke up it felt like my face and neck was frozen. I usually have a very high pain tolerance but when my nerve becomes irritated. I am ready to remove them myself. Besides my husband could care less what I look like.
Most doctors are not going to say the thread lift will last for years - it’s all over the internet that it lasts about a year. I was pleased with mine and am getting another one soon.
I'll be 55 in 3 weeks and I have been thinking about getting threads. I actually don't mind the fact that it is temporary. It will build collagen which will help even after the threads dissolve. What makes me have second thoughts is the price. Very expensive for something temporary and will have to be done again in a year or two. I think I'd rather spend more and get more long term results. If it was cheaper I would definitely get threads. Plus doing it multiple times doesn't seem good for your face in the long run. There's seems to be more cons. I think in time when it is more of a common procedure like Botox, the price might lower and be more accessible for people that don't want to spend a lot for a temporary fix.
wow thank you .. i had a friend.. that was interested in this and after listening to your expertise. i will make sure they find an alternative route!!!!
Thanks for this invaluable information. It has helped with some of the upset of feeling I've missed out not having the treatment sooner: the company has gone into liquidation and have already paid for the procedure, but haven't reassured me of a refund.
I did soft thread lift those small ones for my Chin n jaw to lift tighten n produce collagen. I spend $1000 for it. Will I do it again? Maybe not, will probably go for HIFU.
Boy am I glad I stumbled on you today! I’m a new Aesthetician and I’ve been researching different machines that give Real Results. Anyways.... My dentist has been providing Botox and Juviderm XR to patients for yrs with great results. When I went in the other day for a cleaning, I told him I needed a Juviderm touch up on my nasolabial folds and he told me he was learning the threading procedure and how I’d get better results. So I was really debating on doing it. Well now I can’t wait to show him this video 😂 and tell him HELL NO I’m not waisting my money on something that’ll fade in a year! So Thank you Doc!! I appreciate your honesty. If only all doctors were as honest as you 👍
Charlene H I do threads and my dr does 10 smooth threads for $150 and I love them. I have done Botox for years and due to sagging when my face pushed up to smile, I had lines all down the lower part of my face and as you know Botox can be $300-$500. I wanted to try threads so I went in asking for the barbed PDO and my dr did as requested but also explained that smooth used in conjunction give best results. I was unwilling to put out more money at that time. Now barbs are $150 each and I did 6 so yes that was $900 BUT because I have gone there for years he did 4 smooth on lip lines and 16 on each side of my face for free. I will say by far and for the money, smooth threads are my go to even over Botox that I love. Even IF $300 worth of threads only last 3-6 months, I’ve saved money. So the concept of smooth is that it adds volume and the body as the thread dissolves, forms collagen around it which is what we loose as we age. I hate the barbed (which I asked for) because they hurt after the procedure and at times, I feel like it is sitting on a nerve and I get a sharp pain. That lasted 3 weeks post procedure and I’m hesitant to do barbed again but after a year of threading a couple of times, I am a believer in smooth threads and the collagen building effects.
Lyndal Wilson Believe it or not many dentist’s OBGYN,s Ophthalmologist’s, Gastroenterologist’s, Internists, and even Podiatrist’s are providing Botox and Juviderm fillers but my dentist has decided not to do threading and I’m glad I decided not to get it done. I just turned 44 and I’m really starting to notice my facial features changing and it’s depressing but I have to come to terms that aging is inevitable 😔
@@psingleton68 I didn’t see your response until now, 10 months later! Wish I noticed this sooner because the collagen in my face has really decreased even more so :-( and now after reading how your results have been with smooth threads... I am going to search for a certified very experienced esthetic injector or board certified plastic surgeon to do smooth threads on my face.
No treatments are permanent anyhow...even fillers botox one gotta repeat after a few months or a year...so isn't repeating these every year a good option too too to prevent sagging? Plz advise
Hi doctor. Is there any long term negative affects if we repeat this thread lift every time they dissolve? I’m still keen on this idea even tho it’s semi permanent
seems hard to get honest on that, surgeons don't like them because they don't last. so if we get them with realistic expectations what can one expect? the DIY people will defend them as the greatest thing ever and cry when anyone says otherwise... but like doctors, don't forget they are there earning a commission on these sales but no one really knows since they haven't done them long enough. every time you do something there is a risk, and if it has to be repeated so many times then that risk increases.
I think if it lasts a year that's pretty good. Filler and botox also don't last forever, that doesn't stop anyone
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Also filler migrates 😖!! No way I'm doing top lip filler again. Next time thread AND its not that much more expensive
Also he said after 12 months the face will return to its original state.. thats a good thing! Meaning my face will be 36 not 37. Also gravity won't affect the face the same way. Lets say you slept and wore a bra 24/7 for 5 years. That means your skin will be more intact and your chest won't droop as much.
True and also the add collagen once they dissolve
it lasts maybe MONTH MAX
I just had my jowls lifted three weeks ago. Very pleased with the results. I was told they’ll last about a year and I’ll need maintenance of them. But they also do build your own collagen.I’ll definitely keep doing them
I had a thread lift about 10 Years ago and have had it touched up twice. I look at least 10 years younger than my age.
Do you mind telling me which thread lift you use. I'm thinking doing it but my doctor told spring thread lift will be good and last at least 3 years. I don't really what to do. It will be very nice if you reply to me. Thanks for sharing, I appreciated.
@@idilahmed6816 I actually dont remember but they were disolvable. I did it in Thailand. The name of the clinic is Juthamas Laser and Cosmetology. She has a Facebook Page.
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@@kior8047 thank you!!! I’m really curious about the results a yet after. I need to know what happens after a year
Which treads is good ??
I had those... they made my face look younger and looking fresh. 🤷🏻♀️ would do it again in a heartbeat.
Hi, if you don't mind me asking what part of the face did you get in? And also did you results right away?
@@kbm124 Hi! I got the jowl lift. Yes, I saw instant results. My cheeks were higher and my smile lines looked much smaller.
@@alliecallie5289 thank you so much. That's exactly what I need. Also ,did you see the results right away?
Can you recommend a good injector ?
what area are you in? I may consider trying them.
I like that they are not permanent. Gives you a year to decide if you REALLY want to get a surgical facelift. Also many of us simply can not afford a surgical facelift, but threads ARE affordable. Not a waste at all. Also they work as a filler and improve texture of skin, they really helped me with some scars that were sunk in. Always good to keep an open mind.
This method cost around 500 bucks in Europe and if people get good results for almost a year it is less risky and less enspensive then a surgery.
Sounds reasonable, you could spend that on waxing or a host of other treatments that don't last.
and then what?
@@sharoncourt75 it’s the same with botox. Botox only last 3-4 months and we still love it, so
@@queridamarilyn3632 so is a forum, people ask questions, make statments, i dont care for botox cause is not fixing anything, my friend wants this, reason why i ask, she wants my advice, not to pick an argument with some bored woman, i would just get a face lift and some laser after that.
@@Menagerie_K hahaha I like how you think... I think😂🤣 (just checking, ✔ we're both laughing because this video 📹wasn't about facial hair threading, and this comment thread has unaware people, right?)😂🤣😎✌🏽
Here in Stockholm, thread lift is popular and the doctors usually inform the patients that it will only last for a year. So it’s up to the patient if she/he wants to do it. Not a waste of money I think, because you’ll look younger for a year anyway! It is affordable, can save some money for next year’s thread lift again 😊
But then you would want to do it yearly and it will add you after some time.
@@LVluxlife PDO 1 year, PLA 2 years, PCL 3 years so can last a fair while just depends what type of threads they use
Exactly. Why is he saying its not worth it. We dont all have thousands fro plastic surgery. What an idiot
In Vietnam , they claimed 10 years
Fillers and botox aren’t permanent either and he still perform it. And the suture are very minimal/hidden. Kinda weird he blacklisted it
Because Drs and providers tell you it lasts years... It doesn't. No one lies and tells you botox and fillers last years.
@@BustasGirl1 if you read the comments, people are sharing their experiences and many are saying that the results lasted longer than a year for them…
Botox is the golden standard for wrinkles and filler is the golden standard to modestly alter features or replace loss facial volume. The purpose is different
@@BustasGirl1 he blacklist it because he want you to pay for expensive surgery.. fillers and Botox are different than threading
I don’t think he said no he said not permanent
DO NOT get a thread lift, it's horrific. I had one recently and it's caused nothing but pain and anxiety. I've done fillers, botox and microneedling without any issues for years, but thread lift was a nightmare. First, the procedure itself was very painful. I then had extreme nerve-related pain, like a stabbing pain everytime I moved my face a certain way for almost three weeks. I then developed a fibroma in my right jaw, with swelling, like a "ball" under my skin. I got my money back but I'm now having to get hyaloronidase injections to soften the fibroma. It's been horrible and I'm worried I'm never going to get rid of this fibroma. Please be safe.
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I'm so sorry that happened to you. Anxiety and nightmare results are exactly what I got from my thread lift as well. I'm right at the three month mark and I've hated my results since day 1. Absolute horrific garbage. I regret doing this procedure. I hope the results fade soon bc I can't take it anymore.
@@GiaSinclairewhat was wrong with the results? How could it be worse than when you started?
Thank you for this information
I had threads put in the vermillion border of my lips and it made them gorgeous and lasted for over a year. Much better look than the duck lips filler gives.
Did you have any side effects and is that true it doesn't stretch out the skin just helps to produce more collagen?
@@innerview6298 What it did for my lips was create a more prominent edge around them and pulled the top lip up slightly. Made them gorgeous. I had no side effects. I would do it again.
The threads in the lips don't stretch the skin. That would be the barbed threads for the face. And the threads grow collagen around them.
That is so cool, can I ask where u went to get that done?
@@Tawny593 could you list where you had the procedure done?
@@rinanova1463 If you live in America, there are many medi spas that do threads. I do know a doctor in Vegas who specializes in them.
Spring Mountain Aesthetics
I still don’t see how he doesn’t have more followers! He is amazing!
He has over a million lol
@@feralfraulein my comment is one year old.
@@Noname99903 ok then hello from the future
Wonder the same thing
@@jacquelineaz6876 1.1 MILLION isn’t a lot?
The way I see it is that PDO threadlifts are a way to get the lift without the surgery and the cost and downtime of surgery. Not everyone is a good candidate. I for one dont care if it lasts 6-12 mos, I'll just go in and get more. It is much cheaper than surgery and for best results it can used with kybella or fillers.
it's not cheaper than surgery, overtime it's gonna cost more than if u get a surgery right away
I had this procedure 2 months ago, it definitely lifted and i need to go back to do another one soon, since it may take up to 1-2 sessions to see desired result, like for me. I'm liking it, but my recovery has taken at least 2 weeks. And If i smiled, it felt like pulling the thread in my brow. Only for a short while though, and then I got what I almost wanted. Now i need my next session 🙈
@@emxdivinity and the cost? it adds up. That's what makes me step back.
@@Miranda3730 Yeah it adds up, i think now pernament brow lift is best. This procedure feels too uncomfortable for long term
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Dr. Youn, we've always respected you and we agree with a lot of what you've said here, but we want to make 1 clear distinction: Thread Lifts are a great option for those who don't mind spending more to avoid surgery and have a shortened downtime. We've had several mother-of-the-brides and mother-of-the-grooms do these just a month or two prior to the wedding and be tremendously happy. Of course we're always clear that the results don't last more than 1 year (at most), but we also don't charge what a facelift would cost (Thread lifts are around $3500 -$5500 at our practice vs. a facelift is $7k - 15k depending on the add-ons you choose). We agree that for a patient who's willing to have surgery, and who has the time for that extended recovery, a facelift almost always makes more sense long-term, but we also know there are a lot of patients who are happy with a temporary improvement so long as they can avoid surgery. Why not offer both? We believe offering a wide array of treatments is in the best interest of the patient.
That’s a fair assessment.
I see some good points in your reply, but there is a bigger problem here that is yet to be fully elucidated, and that is seen repeatedly clinically with multiple exposures to thread lifts. The article Dr. Youn refers to in the video mentions this problem, and as surgeons who perform multiple facelifts, we are able to identify it when the facial tissue is in our hands. Namely, it is the process of "cheese grating", whereby the facial muscular contractions lead to repeated rubbing of the soft tissue against the "barbs". Although many of today's threads are absorbable, it takes several weeks to months before they are dissolved, often resulting in many weeks to months of exposure to this harmful kinetic movement. I have rarely seen more fibrotic tissue than when I have operated on a patient with multiple thread lifts or with multiple injections of semi-permanent fillers. Often patients with multiple exposures to thread lifts complain that their face no longer feels natural, but rather rubbery and hard. There is a level of truth to this and it has to be explained to patients. At the same time, you are right that some patients will simply never succumb to a knife, and there are also a significant number of patients who are not candidates for surgery (i.e. smokers). It is these patients who will look for gratifying solutions that may not last long, but offer some respite in the meantime. For such patients, we have technologies and combinations that can result in excellent results and they are all summarized succinctly in another video by Dr. Youn that can be viewed here: th-cam.com/video/mEeLMq9EfMI/w-d-xo.html. I prefer these approaches to thread lifts as the type of collagen produced is much more in keeping with the natural collagen that we have in our bodies, and I have rarely received the complaints I receive from patients with multiple thread lift treatments. I still offer thread lifts from time to time, especially for patients who would like relatively quick results, but with the caveat that I will only ever perform such lifts up to three times in a life time. I also want to share that this post is not designed to undermine any particular treatment or to arrogantly refuse to accept that there are always new treatments that will emerge in time. It is just to state the realities of what I have found in over 10 years of advanced facial surgical and non-surgical treatments
Fadi Hamadani, MD
Plastic and Aesthetic Surgeon
KOL, Inmode Aesthetics (Facetite, Acutite, Morpheus)
Merz Certified Clinical Instructor
KOL, Apyx Medical (Renuvion)
@@fhamadani thanks for this information!
Poor pathetic advertising. This doctor is making a clear distinction temporary versus permanent. Providing medical science fact information to prospective patients.
3500 is a stretch for 1000 $ i will get a full face of lift and some fillers .
I'm still going to get the procedure done. It worked very well for my sister and lasted about a year. Don't care that results aren't permanent. I can do it again.
Hey how’s it going? Did it go well?
Did you do it ?
Literally the only doctor I listen to on TH-cam! I have a question, I’m going to Dr. Youn!!
Dr Youn’s skin creams are at the very high end (aka huge markups) of the price scale and we know creams (besides a retinoid and sunscreen) have minimal results too.
Yep but of course this means the more people get threads the less patients aka less money he makes
Okay but what's with the picture of hair removal threading?
Yeh!!!
I was thinking the same thing...
He’s a jokester I think he was just joking and implying these people just get their eyebrows shaped more arched
Dissenting opinion: No decent Dr should be saying this is permanent. It is temporary and when done right on the right candidates, it does lift and work most definitely. Acne scars and depressed labial lines can be plumped up but of course lifting is most notable on the 35 to 55 age with sagging jowls and depressed, exaggerated nasolabial folds. The impact is most immediate and does become longer lasting effect compared to fillers alone. No general anesthesia, fraction of the cost, risk is low. To say he knows this is a non starter is really disingenuous. It isn't provided as a one time treatment nor that all people will be prime candidates. Defining lip lines is my favorite as filler is too hard to control fine details. This is a good treatment and the fact that it is resorbs makes it safer than the permanent versions. Look for before and afters pics. There are plenty of good visuals. The articles are comparing threads to Long term results akin to Plastic surgery results....More invasive and risky but longer lasting.
Hello dr. Youn, you are of course right about the duration of the threadlifts. However, in europe at least they cost around 200 euros (while you need to triple the amount of money for a filler (undereye, to lift a bit of sagging from bone loss at jaw level, anything more than that is really expensive). HA lasts six months or less as a filler as far as I know. Most of the plastic surgeons tell you that the threads last 1 year and if the doctor is talented the result is pretty good. I had both fillers and threads - not at the same time. I started from the age of 32, so the changes that I had (and needed) were really subtle. Except for the time that i used radiesse (which resulted in "cellulite"appearance and I wouldn't recommend), I had to inject HA again after 7 mostly 9 months. I read that HA can last up to 18 months ( I wonder which formulation and other terms and conditions, eg. a person's physiology probably?) Not to say that from the threads I was really excited to gain very very cute dimples (yes yes yes) as I smile (and I was always jealous of the persons with dimples). In my opinion, as a "patient" threads are not that bad value for money if someone cannot afford fillers, but fillers give more youthfull appearance since they restore volume.
While I wholeheartedly agree with the majority of dr Youn's opinions on aesthetic medical procedures, I strongly disagree with the statements made in this video. I don't think one can generalise when it comes to the efficacy of thread lifts, as there are so many types of threads available on the market- PDO, PCA, PLA, mono threads, cogs.. the list goes on. Depending on the type of threads, amount of threads administered and the injection protocol of the treatment, a long lasting effect can be sustained. Aside from a 'physical lift' that threads may initially provide, as they gradually dissolve, they stimulate the production of collagen in the treated area and help rejuvenate the tissue long after the threads themselves have dissolved. This in turn can make for a denser, healthier dermis which 'holds up' for far far longer than the 1 year quoted here.
yeah, people like Dr. Rajni are all for them (and sculptra too), Dr Youn seems to be ok with sculptra too though. I don't think they'd be so popular in S korea and Europe if the scar tissue really affected having a face lift later..if anything you'd have a nicer skin when it came time for a real face lift.
….. but PDO threads stimulate new collagen when the threads dissolve, so technically it’s NOT a “waste of money” if it’s actually doing something great to the skin and not just lifting the skin with no actual long term benefit.
I know several people who get them done and they not only looking great with it but look great after the threads dissolve, especially if you redo the procedure every few months to a year. I think it’s definitely worth it & I can’t wait to get mine done this summer, though I don’t have “saggy eyelid” by any means (I’m 30), I just want a more “lifted/foxy” look 😊
Totally disagree. It has 82% approval on Real Self. The purpose is to give an immediate lift...And once the threads deserve to stimulate the body to produce more collagen creating a natural look. It's not the equivalent of a facelift, but it does do what it supposed to do.
A year has gone by and this doctor never bothered to respond to you. I agree with you, it's all about stimulating collagen grown. I'm just concerned about infection.
I thought the issue was that it wasn't the right kind of collagen that's produced. It won't make you look younger, you just produce more to try and heal the scar tissue created by the threads being forced through the skin.
@@beepspeep108 Type 1 collagen is produced.
@@dawnb2892 I don't think it'd be good for the skin in the long run. You're essentially pulling at the skin for months on end, eventually you'll just create more problems and end up looking older
@@beepspeep108 The products have been used for several years now. I don't see any real adverse effects from using threads on youtube; I find that odd though as with all procedures there are problems. I'm wary as well regarding skin threading use long term. I use the derma roller and have over the months had real improvements.
No one is claiming that thread lifts are permanent. It's like posting a video about Botox being not permanent and expensive. Well, duh, we know that but it's a good non-surgical alternative.
Thank you. I thought the presentation was a little dishonest and misleading.
No one is saying it lasts years but your skin is only going to get worse in time the more and more thread lifts you get. Like pillow face after years of fillers. Might as well just bite the bullet and get a face lift which will last around 10 years instead of a thread lift (which gives minimal results anyway) every year.
@@xotennisxgirlox i don’t agree with you. Now threads are dissolvable, the threads are not staying inside your face, and I don’t see how that can get worse. On the other side, not everyone are candidates to a cosmetic surgery (bc of their age or bc of a health condition, etc). I had a c section back in 2006 and the anesthesia was so strong that now, if I go to the dentist and get localized anesthesia, my heart goes 🌪 trying to fight the anesthesia. Sometimes even to topical cream anesthesia. I will not undergo any cosmetic surgery bc I think my heart will not tolerate it. My docs says my heart is healthy and good but I trust my gut. With this what I want to say is that surgery is not for everyone. I believe threads are a good option to surgery. They are as effective as some fillers in my opinion. For someone like me who is starting to show signs of aging, I can’t do surgery. At least drs says I still don’t have a fixable problem. Fillers and threads are now my option.
Yea, he sounds like a plastic surgeon who doesn’t want non-plastic surgeons to be able to provide these services
Threads are much better than an endoscopic brow lift. That is BRUTAL!
# 1 thread lifting is used so so much in Europe ! experts do amazing work ! using most (smooth threads = small threads and not with barbs ) and are not expensive as it is in USA .#2 threads are not in place of other treatments ,like Botox or fillers . #3 threads support the skin and biodegrade after just few months and in place forms collagen #4 this treatment is grate for lower face and can be placed almost any were in face and body .#4 It is painless very natural ,I have had this experience TO HELP AND SUPPORT the skin .
vassiliki price agreed! I love threads!
One year is decent time considering that it's not an invasive procedure
$1,000 is worth it for 1 year, I spend triple on Botox per year.
My doctor wanted $1,000 and there’s areas Botox won’t correct
No it's like $1,000 per thread and you have to have a bunch of them put in.
And they don't replace Botox We still need our Botox.
@@shaec3405 wrong
I bought a book on amazon and learned to do the procedure on my self. The cost is $80 per bag of surgical grade pdo threads. I use the more simple one. One bag will allow you to do an entire face. There are some that cost a little bit more. It all depends on how long you want them to last.
@@bestforyouall Whoa, no way
@@bestforyouall looking at the overlaying maps of your veins your arteries all the blood vessels in your face how the nerves work and the muscle system in your face... There is no Muthfkn way I'm jamming a needle into my own face after reading a book I got on Amazon. HellNo! I get exactly one face to work with on this planet. And I'll be trusting it to trained medical professionals who have gone to medical school and work done on actual cadavers before they ever got to me . Please be careful.
Thanks for this helpful tip, Dr. Youn. I'm just not sure why your video included a pic of facial hair threading, which is an entirely different thing, and could be confusing to some!
Talks about Thread Lifts.
1:25 - Shows pic of woman getting her brows threaded. 🧐😂
I came here to say this 🤣
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Yesss like whhhhhat?
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Ps this treatment it helps us age better and it is not a surgical face lift !
Yessss queen! Very true! It helps build collagen..the lift is a plus too.
My friend got this thing and we don’t see any improvement
Thanks for this video. I worked with a plastic and reconstructive surgeon, and we had to remove the threads (the permanent ones). People must understand that a facelift is not just "pulling the face." Instead, tissue is dissected, excess skin removed and skin is placed in a new "uplifted" position ... and then, the skin heals and holds in position (until normal aging continues). A lot can be done when the skin is held off the face. I would also love for you to do a piece on those stupid "faradic current" units that tweek the muscles (like a T.E.N.S. unit). These were developed in the 1920s, and make a come-back every few hears. They're "on us" yet again! Point: wrinkles don't happen in the muscles ... and the units are useless.
I have seen great results with the thread no permanent
Then what’s Botox for
Hey; apparently 'Spring Threads' can last 3 or more years; I'm definitely IN!! *'rise in demand for thread lifts has corresponded with a drop in UK facelift market' - I can see why a facelift surgeon might dislike thread lifts but there's room for both? I don't think I'd ever have a f'l - what if it went wrong?! - but threads', I can do..
Threadlifts can “go wrong” too…you might want to check out some pics. The face looks scary and bumpy and weird where the barbs are and you can go numb and you can get nueralgia of the face. Nothing is without risk. At least a face lift is “permanent”.
I use the little pdo threads as a way to build up the tissue. It's cheaper than filler and they don't migrate. More subtle and more precise.
He doesn't know the basics, first he says permanent threads don't work (not true, they did do very well what they intended to do), then he says (non-permanent) threads are less effective ??? Really? Like negative effect?! The PDO threads stimulate collagen production along their path for a year or more. More importantly, they don't intend to do what permanent threads do, their "scope of work" is different from permanent ones. In modern Aesthetic Medicine NOTHING is or should be permanent, our bodies constantly change, so do the aesthetic trends. That is why plastic surgeries and permanent threads leave the stage for non-permanent solutions (but of course some people hate that and pay for ads like this one). Today nobody injects silicone anymore.. cuz it's permanent.
Dr. Youn, thank you kindly for being honest. You definitely changed my mind immediately.
Thank goodness for you. I’ve been sceptical about Thread facelifts for a while & I trust & believe in a professional.
He’s trying to get people to have 50k surgery
Thanks so much Dr for your honest review. You saved me $2300 and a possible very painful experience too!
Hi Heather! i love threadlifts. For me they work wonderfully! My only complaint is that they are expensive when they don't need to be. I am 77 years old and they take decades of years off of me. They only last around 6 months (for me). I am subtle with my cosmetic procedures. I am a cosmetologist/esthetician and have a system that works well for me. Nobody has guessed that i get botox and other fillers and threads. I use the hyaloron pen around my lips. Saves me tons of money. And i inject my botox in 2 places with short needles. However, the threads i leave to the doc to insert and have found one who works on me for between $550 and $700. h. People need differant applications. Go slow and don't over due treatment. God Bless!
I want to have this done. I don’t mind if it only lasts for one year. I’ll get it done again next year! I look at it as a treatment, like my C02 laser I had done 6 months ago! It’s called maintenance!
I agree with you they are not worth the cost but are they actually damaging to ur skin? I was still doing them bc of the collagen stimulating effects I believe they have. But if u think they are more damaging than stimulating I wold love to know. Thank u for ur vids!!!
Personally, I think all “Facelifts” should be avoided. One of my dearest friends recently had a facelift on the lower part of her face, a neck tightening, and some fat fillers, Botox, etc. She was very diligent in her research and used a licensed plastic surgeon. When the doctor & his staff saw her on her first return visit, they were shocked at how bruised she was...she was more black than blue, eyes swollen almost completely shut, and within a week of that first visit, developed a huge hematoma, about two inches thick and almost one inch deep, on her neck, from ear to ear. She had to go in twice a week and they literally had to “Strangle” the blood out of the hematoma, pushing the excess blood out a hole by her ear. Five weeks later, she still has a “cable” type knot of coagulated blood running from each ear towards her clavicle bone, which her surgeon says he “hopes” will reabsorb into her body in time. She hides these cables with her long hair. Does she look younger? Yes. Was it worth it? Well, she didn’t die. I’ll let you be the judge.
Sounds like she picked a bad surgeon
Plz tell me is it surgical facelift, or using threads?
There is risks in all surgeries,that doesn’t mean it not a good surgeon, it means your friend was not a good candidate for a facelift, and that’s not always obvious till the patient is healing!
@@hellekimery9537 I agree. Not saying it was the surgeon’s fault. Nor was it my friend’s fault. Just saying this is the kind of risk you have to be willing to take, because no one knows if they are an appropriate candidate for surgery until during or after the surgery…of any kind. Some surgeries are necessary and life saving. The question people who are opting for elective surgery for the sake of looking better need to ask themselves is: Is this worth possibly having severe complications or even death? This woman is my oldest and closest friend. The fact that she could have died for the sake of a better neck/jawline is horrific to me.
@@cydkriletich6538 Absolutely!! And it can and does go wrong ! But obviously there are far more successful surgeries in plastic surgery or it simply would not be as popular - and they are! I think most women feel younger than they are and would like that to match their outsides… there is far more pressure on women to look younger and “ fresher” than they appear!
The cost is huge so it’s not something you just jump into without doing your research and ask yourself “ is it worth it”?
And I think for most women it IS worth that risk !
I am willing to take that risk with a great surgeon, as most complications IS minor .
But right now thread lifts are being marketed as temporary, like many other cosmetic surgeries. The benefits are said to be that they not only temporary lift an area, or smooth out the skin, but signal the area to build collagen as the threads dissolve. It sounds good... I would like him to address that. Maybe look at the ones Eva Mendes has been doing for reference. It's a procedure he hasn't convinced me not to have yet. ❤ I need more info.
This works .. 1000 for 8 threads for me but my dr said do them every 6 months because it won’t last beyond a year
yeah my experience with this has been incredibly positive. not sure why he’s down on it
@@PathosConsultingGroup you've had it done?? That's awesome! Are they the ones that dissolve?
Cali Love yeah i think virtually everything on the market now are the dissolvable ones. what shocked me personally is that it was sooo fast, and virtually pain free
@Money Muse where is your dr located? I would like to have it done but it's hard for me to pick a Dr without a recommendation TIA!
What happens if sutures in one side of your face dissolve before the other side? Do you end up lopsided?
No
@@Framos16 why not?
Yes it happened to me i didn't know one side broke now one side of my face is lifed the other saggy 8 months later
@@aprilcloyce7426 why didn't the clinic fix it for you?
@@Octayvia21 i didn't know it until months later a plastic surgeon pointed it out to me at that point whats the point
No disrespect. I had the threads and it was/is amazing. If you average in Botox and other fillers that have less of an effect? It's sooo worth it.
Doctor is correct. I had a lift, I only wanted lift on right side. She said she had to do the entire face. I asked her for followup appointment, she said no followup. Nothing new day after or 6 mos after. Now I have bumps on my face. She was a doctor that had a write-up piece in the local new york paper. She was a horrible doctor. Very cold. Don’t get this done and ask questions. I went solely on the write-up she had.
Fillers migrate.. never again. Also the 12 months threads work they keep the area tight meaning gravity is not working as much. Lets say im 50 and do threads for 5 years. I'll still look younger than I would've without the threads. Right?
Thread lifts are evolving. PDO thread is now used as much to volumize or fill superficial rhytids. The results of judicious combinations of various treatments such as Threads, Filler as Radio Frequency, HIFU and RF Micro-needling with PRF can be both subtle and breath taking.
THANK YOU!!! Lol I had a friend who got them back in the 2000’s and after that she had the worse headaches she ever had before.
So all these people doing thread lifts online stating that it promotes collagen as an end result are actually misinformed ? What about the PDO thread lift that is to promote collagen once dissolved, leaving the user with a firmer face? Are they all wrong ?
Thank you for this confirmation, I was about to do this procedure. But being said that it only last 1 to 2 yrs I don't think I want to go an pay this money every yr.
I feel like you should also say what would be an effective alternative to that .
I had thrwadlift done on my jaw line and cheek as I age (29) I notice my cheeks are droopy. So I did it as it’s minimally intrusive and no down time. The result is super minimal no one would notice but me, compare for the price I think that’s why he said it’s not worth it. But I will still do it for my neck I think.
I did my like a month ago (31 live in Germany ) I do look “ fresher “ but not that dramatic change ..
Wow at 29!!
How long did it last??
Hii, how long did it last?
@@mirjammilde9435 würdest du es wieder tun?
Any new thoughts on this? There are so many threadlifts out there and I was wondering if the technology had improved. I have so much laxity under my jawline and a dr who o has done the best Botox I’ve ever had is recommending this. The Botox injections that she did lasted longer and seemed to be truly artistic so I tend to trust her. But I know everything is so sales driven.
I've been doing my own mono PDO threads and love the results, not sure why he is saying this? I do most treatments myself, botox, micro-needling, meso do your research buy good at-home devices and products, and start your journey. It's very rewarding.
How do you do the PDO threads and Botox yourself? I’d love to save money and do it myself.
You can start a TH-cam channel!
@@miaash3870 Who me? Nah no time I just love doing it myself
@@lakola7632 research and try that's how I started.
I've started to notice the first signs of aging and don't particularly want to go the botox route (especially after seeing others eyebrows drop) and wanting a more natural appearance. Would those smaller PDO sugar threads then be an alternative treatment? Apparently they last 6 months or more which is ok to avoid looking too fake
This is what I’m thinking of doing(pdo threads) because they do build collagen. Botox made my eyelids and forehead droop so you are smart to avoid. It’s not worth it :(
Yes PDO, PCL, and plla threads are a great way to induce collagen. Though they do not last forever nor does the collagen induction, they do work for up to two years for the PCL type. I think there are a great alternative to surgery.
Dr has given a mind awakening otherwise I would have chose a wrong idea.
What about the collagen they induce? Doesn't that help for a while at least?
I thought they were collagen inducing too, but this video is 2 years old and the beauty industry is so rapidly moving he could be referring to a specific type.
If you're over 50 too, apparantly you don't produce collegen anymore
Dr Youn is a beautiful person, inside and out !!
i had a brow stitch lift, it lasted 2 days before falling down lol after a week it was back to normal
Obviously not done correctly ! You should get your money back!
As a do it yourself advocate, threads are amazing and DO WORK AS A LIFT. Even at a year, at minimum cost is well worth it.
A doctor talking about threadlifts but using pictures of someone getting their eyebrows threaded...seems legit
Right that disconnect bothered me too
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Forreal. That bothered me also.
People need to keep in mind these “TH-cam doctors” are sponsored by certain products and procedures and to take the advice with a grain of salt. He is trying to sell his service that he offers by trying to gain the trust of his followers by bashing another ones service. Marketing! :)
Facts
So you know more than a doctor
@@blackvelevet3172 did you not read what the original comment literally just said??
I agree
Truth over money, thanks Dr. Youn. You're a true doctor.
I had threads years ago...and slowly but surely they started to hurt. The reverse barbs would actually poke me from within. So when I had a facelift, I asked the surgeon to remove them. The newer PDO, dissolvable threads must be better.
That’s not true, silhouettes thread lift is very effective. I got very good results.
Dr youn, my dr did say threadlift works just like fillers abt 9-12 mth it will dissolve eventually.
he recommend thread lift of nose coz fillers will immigrate and expand. But thread won’t ! So he sells me like it’s a filler with e lift and definition without e expansion side ways.
He did my bridge , ala n tip of nose , it’s very pretty. But it hurts like a bitch.
After 15 mths , I went back for TOP up, but he advise me to just do e bridge only... coz there’s some risk but he Won’t say more.
Can u advise me , is thread lift very dangerous but just no dr will tell u? I can’t see to find anything disadvantages , all talking abt it advantages only.
Ive heard a lot of bad stuff about nose fillers from Drs who've had to remove them
Immigrate 🤦🏽♀️🤣
They last 18-24 months depending on your age, health, etc.
My doctor was honest that they’d last 12-18 months and I’m fine with that because it would feel worth it… unless - is there a different better option? Would love to know
Iam 37 years and smoker, I did thread lift 4 months ago . It's amazing the result unbelievable. I did it after filller pressure which make my skin sagging.
Did it last ? For a year ? Or leas
How long did it last?
My doctor told me it's stay 1 year
Great video!! Very informative, your voice is so soothing I love it!!
Positivity n truth travels much slower because humans are conditioned to listen to false stuff which spreads faster...thank Dr youn....keep up the good work....love you loads
Hi, my mom got this treatment like 3 years ago, then a year later she wants to get a lifting with plastic surgery, but the doctor that is famous at my Lil city refuse to do it, cause he said that because the threads she got fibrosis and nobody with those is a candidate for a face surgery
I don’t get it
That’s bc her dr used the barbed threads. They have new smooth & dissolvable threads that don’t cause fibroids.
I don't care if I have to pay 1000 dollars a year. What I want to know is if it works, what the side effects are and crucially how much does it hurt?
what is the problem to do them each year in that case? thank you
I had it done, it doesn't last a year, it lasts 3 weeks max
I got nosethread and I was told that it would last for 2 yrs. I'm good with that 😊
I've heard exactly the same thing from other aestheticians that unfortunately the threads tightening effect doesn't last more than a few months on alot of clients:(
My cousin. Gets these and she looks 20 years younger. I usually get the botox but I'm ready for a facelift next year
Its my understanding that dissolvable threads are for stimulating collagen production under the skin
I wouldn't call it a waste of money. We are upfront with the clients that it is temporary so they know what they are getting. It is far less costly and less risky than surgery and the results are very good so I don't see how its a bad thing. Botox and fillers wear off sooner and cost more in the long term. Overall, the modern threadlifts are a better value for the client.
I appreciate your honesty! Keep it up! Thank you!
I had a thread lift in my eyes (cat eye) and my cheeks (cog thread) after 2 weeks I barely see any changes of "lift". Maybe there is, 3%? But after 6 months my face and brows never change a bit, even if my doctor said it will last for 2 years. What last, my expectation lasted for nothing. Shoot. I wasted money for that cra*
Absolutely a First Class Doctor. He's fun too
In post Soviet countries, like Russia, Ukraine . . . they have been using the Threadlifts for many years . . . There are like million types of them. Dissolvable, non dissolvable . . . Indeed, they help. Maybe those, that dissolve - Just for one year, but still, the whole year your face is lifted. The ones that do not dissolve can keep your face lifted for much longer.
Just the price is cheaper, like much cheaper than in US. My friend did this lift, she was in love with her lifted face) she looked very young
Good for you being so open to challenging the rest.
I had these done 2 weeks ago. OMG. what pain. Threads poking me under my chin. Last night I had one poking me under my tongue. I had to readjust them and it stopped then everything was inflamed. When I woke up it felt like my face and neck was frozen. I usually have a very high pain tolerance but when my nerve becomes irritated. I am ready to remove them myself. Besides my husband could care less what I look like.
Most doctors are not going to say the thread lift will last for years - it’s all over the internet that it lasts about a year. I was pleased with mine and am getting another one soon.
HOW LONG DID YOURS LAST?
I was wondering what happened to all those thread lift commercials‼️thanks Doc👍🏼‼️
I'll be 55 in 3 weeks and I have been thinking about getting threads. I actually don't mind the fact that it is temporary. It will build collagen which will help even after the threads dissolve. What makes me have second thoughts is the price. Very expensive for something temporary and will have to be done again in a year or two. I think I'd rather spend more and get more long term results. If it was cheaper I would definitely get threads. Plus doing it multiple times doesn't seem good for your face in the long run. There's seems to be more cons. I think in time when it is more of a common procedure like Botox, the price might lower and be more accessible for people that don't want to spend a lot for a temporary fix.
I love Dr. Youn! I had Botox a couple years ago and got extremely sick. I'm now looking for an alternative.
Really?? From the botox ??
Yes. Tinnitus, vertigo
wow thank you .. i had a friend.. that was interested in this and after listening to your expertise. i will make sure they find an alternative route!!!!
Dr. Do you recommend these for asymmetrical eyebrow(s) or botox?
That’s the reason I follow you. You’re honest and always after the best interest of your patients/ followers. God bless you always🙏🏻
I literally came here to see your take on this because it sounded so unrealistic but I am in no way a medical doctor. Thanks for the information.
do you still stand by your opinion about this treatment from a year ago?
Dr David Lim Has complete different POV And a great channel
Thanks for this invaluable information. It has helped with some of the upset of feeling I've missed out not having the treatment sooner: the company has gone into liquidation and have already paid for the procedure, but haven't reassured me of a refund.
I did soft thread lift those small ones for my Chin n jaw to lift tighten n produce collagen. I spend $1000 for it. Will I do it again? Maybe not, will probably go for HIFU.
From Jordan 🇯🇴♥️🇯🇴, I was recommended to do treatment, but needed to hear you because I trust you.
Boy am I glad I stumbled on you today!
I’m a new Aesthetician and I’ve been researching different machines that give Real Results.
Anyways.... My dentist has been providing Botox and Juviderm XR to patients for yrs with great results. When I went in the other day for a cleaning, I told him I needed a Juviderm touch up on my nasolabial folds and he told me he was learning the threading procedure and how I’d get better results.
So I was really debating on doing it.
Well now I can’t wait to show him this video 😂
and tell him HELL NO I’m not waisting my money on something that’ll fade in a year! So Thank you Doc!! I appreciate your honesty. If only all doctors were as honest as you 👍
Charlene H I do threads and my dr does 10 smooth threads for $150 and I love them. I have done Botox for years and due to sagging when my face pushed up to smile, I had lines all down the lower part of my face and as you know Botox can be $300-$500. I wanted to try threads so I went in asking for the barbed PDO and my dr did as requested but also explained that smooth used in conjunction give best results. I was unwilling to put out more money at that time. Now barbs are $150 each and I did 6 so yes that was $900 BUT because I have gone there for years he did 4 smooth on lip lines and 16 on each side of my face for free. I will say by far and for the money, smooth threads are my go to even over Botox that I love. Even IF $300 worth of threads only last 3-6 months, I’ve saved money. So the concept of smooth is that it adds volume and the body as the thread dissolves, forms collagen around it which is what we loose as we age. I hate the barbed (which I asked for) because they hurt after the procedure and at times, I feel like it is sitting on a nerve and I get a sharp pain. That lasted 3 weeks post procedure and I’m hesitant to do barbed again but after a year of threading a couple of times, I am a believer in smooth threads and the collagen building effects.
Why is your dentist doing threads? 🤔
Lyndal Wilson Believe it or not many dentist’s OBGYN,s Ophthalmologist’s, Gastroenterologist’s, Internists, and even Podiatrist’s are providing Botox and Juviderm fillers but my dentist has decided not to do threading and I’m glad I decided not to get it done. I just turned 44 and I’m really starting to notice my facial features changing and it’s depressing but I have to come to terms that aging is inevitable 😔
@@psingleton68 ur so kind and helpful 👌🙏
@@psingleton68 I didn’t see your response until now, 10 months later! Wish I noticed this sooner because the collagen in my face has really decreased even more so :-( and now after reading how your results have been with smooth threads... I am going to search for a certified very experienced esthetic injector or board certified plastic surgeon to do smooth threads on my face.
No treatments are permanent anyhow...even fillers botox one gotta repeat after a few months or a year...so isn't repeating these every year a good option too too to prevent sagging? Plz advise
Hi doctor. Is there any long term negative affects if we repeat this thread lift every time they dissolve? I’m still keen on this idea even tho it’s semi permanent
seems hard to get honest on that, surgeons don't like them because they don't last. so if we get them with realistic expectations what can one expect? the DIY people will defend them as the greatest thing ever and cry when anyone says otherwise... but like doctors, don't forget they are there earning a commission on these sales but no one really knows since they haven't done them long enough. every time you do something there is a risk, and if it has to be repeated so many times then that risk increases.
wow you are doing such great job doc !! thaks a lot for providing us with these practical info