Josh Bryant Teaches The "Dead" Press | @JAILHOUSESTRONG
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- Josh Bryant teaches Nsima Inyang the "Dead" Bench Press. This is where the bar is loaded and pressed from pins, at a dead stop. Josh details the functionality of this exercise and the rep range he likes to stick to when implementing this version of the press.
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The true dead bench press is benching your 1rm with no spotter
Mongoosemcqueen Benching your 1.01rm with no spotter.
Lmaooo
Or your 0.5rm.
We called that no longer alive press
@@TheOnlyQwin you’ve never heard of spotter arms?
I've been implementing a lot of Josh's teachings and I was able to break a nearly year long bench platue and cut 30 lbs. I was really skeptical at first cause a lot of the movements seemed so counter intuitive, but he has really done his research looking at probably a century of documented strength training and knows what works.
this shits the reason my bench skyrocketed but ive always just called it a pin press
Absolutely, this is the hardest bench variation I have tried for me it kind of beats up my shoulders so I have to be careful with it
i think because i did them on the incline and i was pressing near the clavicle
Doing it on an incline, any incline, is much harder than flat. Its best with a slight incline if you are going to do that, dont lift it near your clavicle, that would indeed be hard on your shoulders. It is a GREAT exercise though.
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I was this morning years old when I realized that the pin press I thought I've been doing was in fact a dead press lol.
They're slightly different, as the pins are a bit higher on the pin press, to work the top and middle portion of the lift.
Learned this from Josh's youtube channel like 2 years ago. Def recommend it.
I was thinking of doing this the other day but forgot to it was really great to see it so well explained. I’m looking forward to trying it now
Josh Bryant is a competitive all around badass
i used to do that only the barbell was a bit higher than touching my chest which developed my triceps tremendously but my coach said it was useless so i changed coach. this is a great exercise and doesnt require you to do any accessorie exercises because it is an accessorie its self it almost isolates the trics. great video
Great video, I’ll try it this weekend.
I forgot about this one, good to see it and I'm gonna do it again
These are awesome:pure raw power
Interesting, would like to see your variations with this technique and commentary, very good stuff.
Helped so much
I like that Josh, " good for all around bad assery! 👍
Salute josh !
Thanks!
Spoto press and deadbench are king when you have trouble at the bottom
Cantthinkofaname def gonna try this . Been getting stuck at the bottom for a while now . I thought it was because of my weak triceps bow im working them more and getting stronger gonna use this to try to get to 225 soon
Ahmed Ismail weak at the bottom isnt triceps my friend. Your triceps help with the lockout(not saying you should train triceps less) but definetly try this and spoto press and dont forget about your Barbell OHP standing or sitting. Hell maby even both 1 on your bench day and the other one on your shoulder day.
Great for raw lifters!
Great tutorial and mechanical breakdown! Digging your content! 💪⚡⚡
I've been training for about 20 years, the last handful of years these are the only kind of pressing with the bar I do. I train alone in my home gym with these I can go to failure. I do these with dumbbell presses also with a dead stop on the chest on each rep and dips.
You can even get the same ROM as in normal bench press or more if you use a cambered bar
Gold
I’m doing it tomorrow
The world would be such a stronger and bigger place if Josh’s “size and strength blueprint” replaced Arnold’s encyclopedia of bodybuilding. No disrespect to Gov.
Always called it benching from the bottom, if you never tried it. Do it!!! It will add to bench very quickly! Gives me a different kind of flex and soreness next day!! Great video!!! 💪
how long did you rest in between reps
Can you add this as a 1rm max option for conjugate?
Should I do after flat bench as I usually do flat and incline ?
Josh the genius
David Forbes you're everywhere man..lol..we're watching the same shit i guess
How far does the bar have to be from the chest?2,3,4 inches? Cuz I seen other videos and they all have different set-up
What percentage should be used doing a 3 x 1 in your program train heroic app?
This is also called a pin press. Very good
How many reps and sets of this please.
My friend whos locked up told me his cellmate does 100 dips in 1 clip or set. Thats impressive!
what percentage of max do you recommend for dead presses. I surprised how much heavier the weight felt when trying them the first time.
This is just a guess but probably the same weight you would for speed reps
I've always thought lifts done without any stretch reflex or muscular tension during the 'lowering' part of a lift provide a far better metric of 'instantaneous' strength then someone who can "GET TIGHT"
Vou treinar com isso a onde ? Se não tenho nem um banco e barra de supino decente.
Surprised myself on this particular movement. I found out that I'm more stronger than I thought.
Me too
this is much easier that normal bench press for me lol
Do i work up to 100% of my max or maybe 95% or maybe 105%?
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I did 160kg Deadpress last week, is that okay?
Did these for the first time today. Way harder than I thought. Had to use significantly less weight than a normal bench press.
for me its easier, weird
how long did you rest between reps
did he tear a bicep...?
Hey it's the guy with the little neck!
Looks like a pin press to me just slightly lower on the starting position. What's the difference?
That is the difference..pin press works mid to lockout of the movement.. dead press works the bottom
I am trying to progress with my dead bench press but I've been stuck. I cannot lift more than 1x225 for months now or more than 10x185. I use this type of bench now since I always train alone. My regular bench press PR use to be 280! This particular lift along with military press (barely 10x115) are killing my ego lol. Any help guys??
He says they are only good for 7 or 8 week blocks
So 10-30 seconds rest in beteeen reps?
What percentage of your max should you use for this exercise? Many thanks in advance 👍
Max effort 2-4 singles > 90% prilepins chart
I do a floor press bottom up, is that about the same as the dead press?
no it is not, they focus on two different things. Any floor press, off pins or not, will not be the same as this as you cant get the bar fully down to its normal bottom position. Unless you have some really funky arms I guess.
Vincent Tremblay Fitness no one of the key points is starting the lift from the bottom up if you do a floor press you are beginning the movement by lowering the weight the point of the dead press is to lift the weight from a dead position you start the movement by lifting the weight and you don’t do reps
Rise Gym *bottom up* floor press
Vincent Tremblay Fitness oh my bad I imagine that’s the same thing!
can you do the dead bench with the bar resting on your chest
No, it’s supposed to be resting on the pins with the bar just barely above your chest.
@@18yearoldconservativefromc60 what would be the difference besides the minor elevation change of the bar? both in theory are dead weight
@@SupERsNipAa327 Well for starters, you wouldn't crush your ribcage when you press heavy weight from the pin position.
@@wilr123 but that’s how it’s supposed to be in the sport of powerlifting
@@SupERsNipAa327 but this isn't the sport, it's the competition prep. Tell you what, go rest 90% of your 1rm on your chest, relax your hands and let go of the bar, then press up explosively, all without using the pins. Tell me how that goes.
i can only do like 80 % of 1RM bench.
Will a floor press lead to the same benefits?
It should. Try it out!
It should! Try it out!
When I did this we called it a floor press. I put the safety bars an inch above the chest and would get a liftoff since that is where your gonna hurt yourself. I would alternate with my reg. BP every other week.
hawg427 with a real floor press you lie on the floor and still have the eccentric portion of the movement until your triceps are on the floor where you then push , a floor press builds lockout strength where as this is for starting strength both are great for overloading the bench
Is it ok if I use reverse band for this movement coath ?
Yeah great idea make sure to use a lot of bands and also make sure that when you film it to set the camera up so nobody can see the bands
Well the bands would make the ascend off the pins the easiest thing, basically ruining the whole point of the dead bench. So no, doubt that bands would help here. Unless you set them up as extra resistance ofc.
How do you incorporate this into your Chest/ bench day? How heavy or what % of your max should be use for these deadpress? My goal is to hit 315 before the end of the year. Im currently at 295.
www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/03/19/how-i-built-my-best-bench-ever-dead-bench/ follow this rep scheme
@@billybrothers2492 thanks for this info. I will give this progression a try
how long did it take you to get from 225 to 295 on the bench
Did you hit your 315 ?
Did you know that your max dead bench is equivalent to any bench weight than you can pause for 5 seconds and your max 3-4 reps.
well we call it a pin press
Does he have a torn bicep or is it just really good peak genetics?
Daniel Lastik prob SteRioDS lol
@@musclemommyenjoyer that doesnt make a difference
It's called the stretch reflex.
How does this differ from pause reps?
Ray Taylor try it gaurentee your bench is down 10% minimum
There is no eccentric motion
watch it again and listen to what he is saying
He genuinely explains it in the first 60 seconds
there is no elasticity stored it feels quite different
The true bench press is a deadstop bench press
I clicked this video because I though it was something I didn’t know. Dude it’s called pins! At least that’s what the majority calls it. Good tutorial though.
Pin press and dead press are different
He literally explaining what’s dead press lol
It looks like pin press
Isn't this an easy way to tear a pec?
Dead press is the real deal for strong benching, just pure strength. I hope powerlifting should be focusing on pushing dead bench than regular bench press.
Ive known 3 advanced lifters now who have hurt themselves with this exercise. This when used with heavy weight, over 3 plates for my training partner and I, has caused tremendous joint strain. Just my 2 cents.
You only use these for like 7 to 8 week blocks. I have done them effectively for years and no issues. Are you trying to move to much weight?
@@twinrivers6200 It was in Josh Bryants program. We got up to 364 for the multiple singles required then ditched it soon after. More than 2 years ago, hard to remember if we ever got into the 400s
@@MongoPowerlifting gotcha they can be rough on the joints. I used to do them for 3 week blocks, once at the beginning of a 12 week block and then again at the end before maxing but lately have just been doing them the last 6 weeks of the block and for me they work best like that.
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Yea.... that's just a pin press. I don't know why people keep trying to rename exercises
i got 265 today
Good, how much is your regular bench?
People with long arms don't have an advantage when pushing the weight off their chest. If anything that's the hardest part because they're in such a weak position with poor leverage when the bar is on their chest
he explains in the other video, yesterdays video I belive.
dumwee But his explanation didn't really make sense. No matter how much elastic tension you have, it won't make up for the loss of leverage. The lower you have to lower the bar, the harder it will be to get it off your chest. If you don't believe me, just set a boxed deck of cards on your chest and lower the bar to it and pause, then press. It will be far easier than if you went all the way down because your arms are in a better mechanical advantage.
harleyzeth then just use a leverage press machine and gradually stack the weight it will also remove those sticking point
Nell Stu1300 What are you talking about? I was just saying how no matter what, there is absolutely no advantage with having long arms for the bench press.
harleyzeth You do understand who Josh is, right? You really think that someone how coached the top 3 raw benchers of 2017, two of whom were in the 275 lb class mind you, would be talking out their ass?
What does the word deadlift have to do with a pin press? Saying deadlift and dead press over and over means absolutely nothing. Can't wait for more secrets that entail calling something everyone is familiar with by a different name. Great content. :)
TotalDefiance No...what he said was actually pretty good info. Be it pretty specific for powerlifters. It is slightly different and I'm actually going to incorporate this. Josh is the fucking man when it comes to benching dude.
I don't doubt it. All I'm saying is anyone can make up some buzzword for any exercise that already exists. It's a pin press through and through. But you're right he is a bad dude.
A pin press is where you start with your arms extended, deadbench is the reverse, and you let the momentum die.
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Aka PIN PRESS, rack lockout. And no you don't always have to do singles.....
ryan rogers no you don't, you just come to a dead stop between reps. You don't need to limit to true "singles". Semantics I guess.
ryan rogers have at it. He's referring to a "cluster set" protocol which, if you get anything out of this debate, can be quite helpful in building strength. And that can be applied to any lift, not just this variant. I suggest you give it a try.
So let me ask you, how about a guy that is 6 ft 5 has a barrel chest and longish arms? 1 size all doesn't mean guys like me fit.
Your comment is years old but I have the same problem. I‘m 6‘4 with a 6‘7 wingspan.
I couldn‘t bench press more than 66lbs for 3/3/3 reps (I‘ve startet last week tbf).
I can do 61lbs biceps curls for 10/5/5 reps without problems.
Could you figured it out after these years?
@@LaVey1999 I'm not that bad, my shoulder points are 24 inches across and I have arms of a man 6ft4-6ft5 I wear 32 long dress shirts and in my youth i could bench past 300 deadlift 3-400lbs and squat 750+lbs not bad for a guy built like a american defensive lineman, that never lifted weights out of highschool
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There is a guy in germany who benches 200kg x 3 and still claims he would be el natural. How bow dah
MrMhtmht that's doable with many years and work
Doesn't say much. It's definitely possible natural. What's more interesting is what he looks like
Hardly anyone likes to admit they're roided mate, that's not a very strong argument. However, 200 kilo is definitely achievable, especially if he's a heavyweight.
I'm also very skeptical when people with 200kg+ in the bench claim to be natural. I would only believe it's possible if I achieved it myself. The highest bench press before the steroid era was 165kg by Joe Nordquest. You can't know for sure that any lifter from the 1940s and onwards has built their strength naturally.
@@RobertP2000 don't know what rock you have been under, I know many guys some roided but most not who have benched 500 and a whole hell of alot of guys that threw up between 400-450 naturally. They were to damn broke to buy roids. Quit accusing every damn strong guy of juicing.
Not the best guy to talk about a pin press based on this video alone, maybe he could review McDonalds burgers?
Valiant Thor dude had a 600lb bench press, I kinda think he might be one of the best guys to talk about anything to do with benching....
NotoriousNUGS Whilst I appreciate that, my point is his ability to talk-explain-teach on camera is shit. His strength makes no difference, lots of people have achieved lots of things it doesn’t make them teachers.
Valiant Thor - except this guy trains top benchers and is on supertraining explaining bench assistant exercises. This whole scenario disproves your point.
J Dub What’s my point? Sometimes the experts just can’t teach, so everything you said has absolutely no bearing on my point. He is a dreadful teacher, anyone listening can see he is a dreadful teacher on this video and so it makes no difference what he does or who he does it with, his teaching style here would be best served reviewing burgers.
Jacob McClure Agh you started off so well and then had to show how butt hurt you are by calling me retarded and asking how big my dick is! Lord God are you that sad that after a month you want to defend a man so devoid of personality or ability in this video, something the blind can see!! I love how you tried and failed to use my own words to make what is a non-point😂. Makes no difference who he is or what he does, in this video he is neither clear or consistent in explaining things, that’s the only point. Nothing more nothing less, now back to you!! Why so upset? Are you that sad that it took you a month to come back with a childish taunt that you think will hurt me and make you look like the big man!!😂😂 Boohoo, you got me, I’m devastated😂 As Europe’s strongest man and voted to be the next God, I’m stronger than you all does that help you😂😘😂
Talks to much