Wagner's Mutiny - what it means for Putin's Russia (and Coups 101)

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  • @PerunAU
    @PerunAU  ปีที่แล้ว +450

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    Well, that was quite the road trip wasn't it?
    The reality is that while it'll be a long, long time before we discover all the details about what happened during those very eventful hours - I think it's worth looking at what we know and asking some critical questions about the mutiny, its chances of success, and what separates simple mutiny from a successful or unsuccessful coup.
    I think it's fairly safe to expect that Prigozhin's companies are probably not going to survive/get many juicy MoD contracts going forward however.
    Hope you all enjoy.

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can you talk about war profiteering?

    • @DUBSTEP_KUSH305
      @DUBSTEP_KUSH305 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks perun
      WAKE and BAKE time!!

    • @paddington1670
      @paddington1670 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you Perun, you make such great content we enjoy mucho

    • @IsaakSpy
      @IsaakSpy ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for offering us context as always. Even if you can't tell us exactly what happened, I suspect you'll do a better job than nearly anyone to equip us to analyse the ongoing chaos ourselves.

    • @Ducktales_00
      @Ducktales_00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤟🥳👍

  • @bogatyr2473
    @bogatyr2473 ปีที่แล้ว +3097

    "So let's talk about how to overthrow a government." -Perun reaching the natural conclusion of his character arc.

    • @jtgd
      @jtgd ปีที่แล้ว +73

      lol it’s a Russian tradition tbh

    • @shaned4480
      @shaned4480 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's been brainwashing us this whole time! Here I thought I was being informed!

    • @spencerscott4878
      @spencerscott4878 ปีที่แล้ว +298

      "Please don't do coups." - Also Perun
      I'm getting mixed signals here buddy!

    • @personzorz
      @personzorz ปีที่แล้ว +190

      How long until he's the new leader of Emutopia

    • @First-Last_name
      @First-Last_name ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Perun is going to rule some larg wild South Asian island some day. I sense a coup brewing.

  • @My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am
    @My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am ปีที่แล้ว +1969

    I knew you'd call this what it was, a mutiny.
    Although, I, myself, prefer: "special military insubordination".

    • @INSANESUICIDE
      @INSANESUICIDE ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Well played

    • @sugandesenuds6663
      @sugandesenuds6663 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      take my like

    • @stephenm9285
      @stephenm9285 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Excellent! It’s all about the wording when the underlying intention is to impart little actual information. 😂

    • @maxfield3106
      @maxfield3106 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      hhhhh

    • @lynleygilchrist7703
      @lynleygilchrist7703 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ohhhhh I like this one!! 😂❤

  • @AslanW
    @AslanW ปีที่แล้ว +360

    In the words of a fellow internet commenter: "In a fight between Wagner and the Russian MoD, I'm rooting for the fight."

    • @paulbeesley8283
      @paulbeesley8283 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      In a fight between Wagner, and the Russian M.O.D., there can surely be only one winner - Ukraine.

  • @dzengrinder
    @dzengrinder ปีที่แล้ว +2034

    Your fellow Russian comment section dweller here. Just a couple of things to note here:
    - Prigozhin's possible mutiny was called out by Strelkov over a month before it happened, no one paid attention
    - Everyone in Russia followed this whole thing, I swear to god, that's the first time I've actually seen everyone talking about something political
    - Prigozhin probably demonstrated not only a staggering amount of apathy towards both putin's regime and all possible bloodthirsty actors within it, but also the importance of administrative weight' within the system.
    - Most people I've spoken to didn't really care if they would burn kremlin or rublyovka.
    What a shitfest it was, and what a time to be alive, truly

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      More up-votes needed.

    • @aliasalias8433
      @aliasalias8433 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      👍👍👍🙂

    • @iMost067
      @iMost067 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Other way around, all mine peers were to go and fight against Wagner if needed

    • @edjohnson8017
      @edjohnson8017 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Is it really “Prigozhin” from
      My understanding he’s a figurehead and middleman between the Kremlin and Wagner and not the one pulling all the strings

    • @dan7564
      @dan7564 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      How are most people you talk too feeling about the validity of the war in general now? Are people who believed all the propaganda and pro war now unsure or still the same?

  • @mrandrews3616
    @mrandrews3616 ปีที่แล้ว +3086

    The difference between history and fiction is that fiction usually has to make sense.

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      What do you mean, this was not a surprise to me at all.

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 ปีที่แล้ว

      All of it made a lot of sense and I would've done similar things if I was the leader of Wagner, and a racist dickhead like he is.

    • @Cowboyking92
      @Cowboyking92 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      The difference between history and fiction is that fiction usually gives you all the information from both sides by the end.

    • @petavaldman2150
      @petavaldman2150 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@Cowboyking92 Well to be fair, fiction usually just makes one side blatantly evil,
      so it's not hard to explain the information from both sides by the end. To explain why Sauron is in a wrong, you don't need to debunk Sauron propaganda.

    • @Maltesfilm
      @Maltesfilm ปีที่แล้ว +38

      ⁠@@petavaldman2150 Fair point but it isn’t really applicable to this situation since one side IS blatantly evil..

  • @SinerAthin
    @SinerAthin ปีที่แล้ว +648

    "Sometimes stupid is just stupid"
    Such an underrated sentence.

    • @yaseen157
      @yaseen157 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Occam's razor!

    • @fulcrum2951
      @fulcrum2951 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I feel like this statement needs to be drilled into the heads of conspiracy nutters

    • @ulrikschackmeyer848
      @ulrikschackmeyer848 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      On the first go, I'd think of Hanlon's razor (Do not ascribe to malice that which can be suitably explained by stupidity ). But I suppose that stripping it all down to the (Ruscist) bear necessities, stupidity IS all you need?

    • @craigclose125
      @craigclose125 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My statement to the big bosses in government I worked for was, " I can't fix stupid". This was pretty appropriate for many weird ideas that percolated up through contractors or minor bureaucrats.

    • @podulox
      @podulox ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ulrikschackmeyer848 I really ******* like that - I hope I remember it...

  • @fortunecookie3765
    @fortunecookie3765 ปีที่แล้ว +460

    Premature evacuation and electoral dysfunction are common problems with older autocrats.

    • @TheKazragore
      @TheKazragore ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Underrated comment. Well played.

    • @docinparadise
      @docinparadise ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Perfect. I’m stealing it. But I’ll give you a byline.👍🏻

    • @zacherymcclure327
      @zacherymcclure327 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Wow, I think you win youtube comments.

    • @r3dp9
      @r3dp9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It took me a second to understand this comment, but I love it.

    • @arthurbrugge2457
      @arthurbrugge2457 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Keep fighting the good fight😃

  • @free_at_last8141
    @free_at_last8141 ปีที่แล้ว +1333

    Putin's gone from internet strongman to the living embodiment of the "everything is fine, nothing to see here" meme.

    • @zallmir
      @zallmir ปีที่แล้ว

      They wanted a bloody massacre in Russia, but it didn't work out. It is very sad, very sad, because I so wanted a civil war, and bad Putin did not allow it, so he is weak. It's so European))))

    • @mike4480
      @mike4480 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      …while wearing the “ emperor’s new ( see through ) Cloak ….💙💛💙

    • @theothertonydutch
      @theothertonydutch ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mike4480 Your satire is bad and you should feel bad.
      Putin's been a shell since forever.

    • @DanielWalker-jo2kr
      @DanielWalker-jo2kr ปีที่แล้ว +39

      He's even gone from "don't come near me until you've had a blood test and bathed yourself in bleach" to meeting and greeting the crowds and kissing teenage girls on the tops of their heads (which, I must admit, I had thought was an exclusively Joe Biden thing, until I saw it).

    • @lance9150
      @lance9150 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanielWalker-jo2kr The difference being the Russian population loves Putin and are Patriots. Joe Biden just rigged the election and Americans went on with their fake democracy and totally failed society with 30 trillion in debt, open borders, and millions of homeless drug addicts.

  • @colanitower
    @colanitower ปีที่แล้ว +249

    44:02 The road to Moscow was empty because the backbone of defense, the T-34, was still in maintenance after the May parade

    • @Noble-ws8ph
      @Noble-ws8ph ปีที่แล้ว +28

      What a shame. If the T-34 was present it surely would have wiped out the wagner convoy.

    • @operaatio5117
      @operaatio5117 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think you could destroy a modern tank with a large swarm of T34s.
      Cannon is a cannon after all.

    • @americankid7782
      @americankid7782 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@operaatio5117”If I have enough T-34s, I can potentially win. Eventually.”

    • @tomasmisek5598
      @tomasmisek5598 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@operaatio5117 well, you'd propably have a better chance to use the practical aplication of the human wave, tank version and just make the modern tank run out of its less than 40 rounds, but technically yes

    • @operaatio5117
      @operaatio5117 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomasmisek5598 Well if you rush a enemy tank, with 50 T34s, the enemy can't shoot them all, and if the T34s can hit their shots, you could make the modern tank almost blind.

  • @badluck5647
    @badluck5647 ปีที่แล้ว +758

    There is a lot of criticism of the Russian military, but their summer offensive to capture Rostov-on-Don was impressively quick and with little causalities.

    • @stischer47
      @stischer47 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Russian MILITARY capturing Rostov? Say what? Rostov was always Russian. Unless you mean WAGNER, which definitely isn't the Russan military.

    • @Rendrom1by1
      @Rendrom1by1 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@stischer47 putin himself call it straight. Russian goverment is literally pay to wagner group for years. In some degree PMC wagner is not a private, but goverment-funded, which make it GMC or in other words an army.

    • @the1Blind
      @the1Blind ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Eh, they kinda just had to fight some third rate military for it.

    • @jessegauthier6985
      @jessegauthier6985 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      ​@@stischer47Well that went right over your head

    • @mitlanderson
      @mitlanderson ปีที่แล้ว +28

      ​@@stischer47wooosh

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    Wagner: We just began our occupation of the largest city we have been able to take during this special military operation.
    Putin: Great! What city?
    Wagner: Rostov.
    Putin: …

    • @zallmir
      @zallmir ปีที่แล้ว

      They wanted a bloody massacre in Russia, but it didn't work out. It is very sad, very sad, because I so wanted a civil war, and bad Putin did not allow it, so he is weak. It's so European))))

    • @badluck5647
      @badluck5647 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Russia's summer offensive

    • @danielpeirson3071
      @danielpeirson3071 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      For Putin's last response use the "Wait, what?" meme.

    • @eljanrimsa5843
      @eljanrimsa5843 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It wasn't the true Rostov. It was just Rostov-on-Don in the South.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Wagner: We are revolting.
      World: That’s not news.

  • @gjoinolywa5850
    @gjoinolywa5850 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    “I don’t know what happened and neither do you.” Classic. More sources should such humility and honesty.

    • @jairo8746
      @jairo8746 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They all HAVE to say something, saying "i don't know" is taboo, they lose ratings if they don't appear confident even when talking shit.

    • @Benjamin-xv9le
      @Benjamin-xv9le ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Plottwist:
      Putin watches Perun for intelligence updates.

    • @nickcharles1284
      @nickcharles1284 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't stop him for going on and on and on.

  • @RmsOceanic
    @RmsOceanic ปีที่แล้ว +454

    From what is public knowledge at this time, I think Prigozhin was heavily playing the "Good Tsar Bad Boyar" card. His criticisms of the war were about special interests and looting oligarchs, but stopped short of directly condemning Putin, at most accusing him of being poorly advised. This is a time-honoured thing in Russia, taking something the scale of Bloody Sunday to dispel the image of the leader being infallible. I think Prigozhin began his thunder run in the expectations that Putin would round up Shoigu and Gerasimov, if not others, then as the Good Tsar thank his loyal boyar for pointing out where he'd been misled. But he miscalculated when Putin directly denounced the mutiny, calling it criminal and so on. Which was in turn a terrible political move for Putin, because if you announce a pardon for people you all but declared outlaws 24 hours before, that's a major rebuff of the all powerful image an authoritarian regime usually cultivates, and is hard to square that circle, not for lack of trying. In a sense it looks like they both bluffed while holding trash cards, and as a result they both lose.

    • @CMY187
      @CMY187 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Igor Girkin has been scathing in his criticism of Putin’s recent actions.
      Girkin: “Putin, by offering amnesty to Wagner, is telling everyone; you can go ahead and commit mutiny, to start an armed rebellion, and if you fail, it’s ok, you won’t be punished. Because I, President Putin, am a spineless woodlouse who’d immediately flee to ST Petersburg.”

    • @joansparky4439
      @joansparky4439 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It dovetails about the setup of this whole conflict though.. Putin&Co only went for Ukraine in a 50:50 bid to safe their regime status in Russia over Russians. They would have never need to do this if their hold on power was as strong as it looked like. This conflict always was about Putin&Co vs Russians (with Ukraine being the unfortunate innocent bystander) and this conflict will end up where it belongs.. it's always just been a matter of time (months, years, decades).

    • @theonlylauri
      @theonlylauri ปีที่แล้ว

      It's interesting how very premodern it was. So many noble rebellions piously swore that they're *totally* not revolting against their sworn and anointed liege, just against his corrupt and malicious officials. War of the Roses is outright comical in the way Henry VI kept getting "rescued" by different factions. Of course any worthwhile king knew that if someone comes in, kicks out your government and installs himself as your right hand man, you aren't really in control anymore. I suppose Putin also knew that. His decision of course kind of backfired, as you describe.

    • @attilamarics3374
      @attilamarics3374 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@CMY187 Girkin says a lot of things. For example obliterating Ukraine in a day and then move onto a war with the US.

    • @attilamarics3374
      @attilamarics3374 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@joansparky4439 Thats just dumb. Read that comment out loud, because it makes 0 sense.

  • @dinozone7373
    @dinozone7373 ปีที่แล้ว +709

    Perun's jokes are, as usual, top notch, but the joke about using Russia using Wagner in Africa to avoid demonetization was simply incredible.

    • @BrightonandHoveActually
      @BrightonandHoveActually ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Yes - the head of government being ousted by a lettuce has only ever been done in the UK.

    • @bekincai
      @bekincai ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@BrightonandHoveActually we in the US had an orange mango for a while

    • @mattbest1197
      @mattbest1197 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The more of your videos I watch Perun, the more I start to see a certain glow around this channel.

    • @williamyoung9401
      @williamyoung9401 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If only Wagner had hired Perun as a military advisor...

    • @SeraphRazgriz
      @SeraphRazgriz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Heh heh, tho I took it as they did things that would de-monetize this video if he said every thing they do and have done there

  • @polymorphesquirrel
    @polymorphesquirrel ปีที่แล้ว +143

    The joke is: Two years ago, Russian army was the second strongest in the world. Last year, it was second in Ukraine. This year, it is the second one in Russia.

  • @honestlyreed1612
    @honestlyreed1612 ปีที่แล้ว +626

    "If a foreign power decides some of your land is in fact their land, well your military can communicate your dispute of their claim in the universal language of high-explosive" -Perun(2023)

    • @alexboccaccio5431
      @alexboccaccio5431 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nice

    • @Frost5al
      @Frost5al ปีที่แล้ว +75

      “Article 5 means if someone goes in for the grapple with Estonia, Uncle Sam is coming in off the bench with a chair, and Uncle Sam carries a *really big* chair”
      I have a graduate degree and I’ve rarely experienced professors with such a tight grasp of their material.

    • @Claymann71
      @Claymann71 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only person WORSE then Pufin the Poisoner would be Pufin's '#1 Dirty Hit-Man' AKA Wagner War-Crime B&stard.
      They both deserve to kick & swing in the Hague.
      They should both go to the Frontline & die in a 'Stormfront' Team!
      These Old War-Crime B&stards have condemned Russia for +100 years!
      They're threatening to burn the entire world because 'Ukraine won't give us more land & people then we already have, EVEN THOUGH they cannot support the land & people THEY ALREADY HAVE"!
      How can you reason with such Idiot Monsters?
      You DON'T!
      You kill their Young Men until all that's left is their Old Men & then they... what?
      Hide in their Mansion-Bunkers until they die of Old Age?
      How do we know they wouldn't do something unimaginably STUPID 'because they lost & this is all they can manage, Doom the world to Superweapon Devastation'?

    • @ricardokowalski1579
      @ricardokowalski1579 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The universal language of high explosives, illustrated dictionary
      Ka-boom? 🤔❓
      Ka-boom! 🧐
      KaBoom, Kaboom 😱
      Kaboom😢☠

    • @kevkyle123
      @kevkyle123 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@Frost5al Uncle Sam carries around a depleted uranium recliner

  • @tdb7992
    @tdb7992 ปีที่แล้ว +555

    I imagine most Australians dream about driving a Mad Max style convoy to Canberra and seizing Australia's parliament and weapons caches. Well done on going from a gaming channel to being one of the most trusted voices on the war mate. You often hit the "trending in Australia" page, which means the nation has a huge appetite for hour long PowerPoint presentations on war analysis.

    • @INSANESUICIDE
      @INSANESUICIDE ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I would also recommend Upper Echelon if you enjoy Perun, seems a lot of good channels sprang forth from gaming channels.

    • @jacoporegini8841
      @jacoporegini8841 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That would be the day, what a lovely day.

    • @11B30Inf
      @11B30Inf ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly you Aussies became submissive sheep to the whims of your corrupt government. For did you not turn in your firearms for that false peace for Gun Control?

    • @awf6554
      @awf6554 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yeah, but Aussies just can't be arsed. Probably a good thing really.

    • @michaelkenner3289
      @michaelkenner3289 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Canberra can't be taken by a convoy. It has too many roundabouts as defensive formations.

  • @hydrolox3953
    @hydrolox3953 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    "and when a foreign power decides that your land is in fact their land, your military can communicate your dispute of their claim in the universal language of high explosive."
    One of Peruns sentences of all time.

    • @hydrolox3953
      @hydrolox3953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KoffinKat what I said was a satirizing version of "the greatest _ of all time".

  • @BNRmatt
    @BNRmatt ปีที่แล้ว +661

    This is another masterclass in dry humor. This was an absurd chain of events and Perun rose to the occasion with the usual Aussie wit. Bravo.

    • @paxofpayne
      @paxofpayne ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hes a kiwi by the way , just saying

    • @oldsarj
      @oldsarj ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@paxofpayne He says he's an Aussie.

    • @joakimquensel597
      @joakimquensel597 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Like at 4:59:
      "OK, so for those of you who ever had at least a passing thought of overthrowing a government, wake up because this part's for you. We're gonna talk quickly about coups 101."
      🤣🤣🤣

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@paxofpayne Not according to his profile: "
      Description
      An Australian covering the military industrial complex and national military investment strategy."
      Or for that matter, his accent.😉

    • @paxofpayne
      @paxofpayne ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oldsarj he's says he's a kiwi expate words to those effects living working in aus think in he's secound vid and as a kiwi I get he's local joks .maybe our humour the same. .and agree with ya he's really smart on a lot levels

  • @oneofmanyjames-es1643
    @oneofmanyjames-es1643 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Ah, it's that time of the week where we all consume a defence economics powerpoint for recreation. We are normal people, I swear.

  • @Tirak117
    @Tirak117 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    At this rate Bandai-Namco is going to start demanding royalties from the Russians, this entire war feels like the plot of an Ace Combat game, complete with unlocking weapons and aircraft, to the Mercenaries who rise up in rebellion against their leaders to seize nuclear weapons. If Prigozhin starts babbling about a world without borders I'm gonna start having some serious questions about simulation theory.

    • @AirLancer
      @AirLancer ปีที่แล้ว +35

      And the main protagonist would be the Ghost of Kyiv.

    • @kjj26k
      @kjj26k ปีที่แล้ว +28

      It also has the Ace Combat classic of the entire war being the defender making a comeback from the brink.

    • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
      @LadyTylerBioRodriguez ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I believe one of the game composers wrote a theme song for Ghost of Kyiv in the first week of the war. Man reality sure feels weird.

    • @somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821
      @somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So when do we get two guys having an Arial jousting competition involving a random F-16 and a Su-35

    • @daigakunobaku273
      @daigakunobaku273 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Believe it or not, at some point before the coup Prigojin actually tried to stage himself as an adamant defender of private property, publically stating that the wine factory his "PMC" had captured in Bakhmut should be returned to its Ukrainian owners, because, I cite this verbatim, "private property is sacred". Which is one of the reasons why so many believe he was actually after seizing the throne for himself, not just getting an upper hand in his rivalry with Shoygu and Gerasimov. He was performing an electoral campaign of sorts before the coup started

  • @Simon39759
    @Simon39759 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    One of the craziest thing I learned from this video is that Wagner is still recruiting in Russia.
    That's pretty crazy

    • @Glumpsy
      @Glumpsy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They stopped. Apparently for a month, but who knows.

    • @Simon39759
      @Simon39759 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Glumpsy The video states that the recruitments are still ongoing. Maybe they have since been paused.

    • @Glumpsy
      @Glumpsy ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Simon39759 Seen the reports today. They were ongoing during the recording, not anymore.

    • @joshuabacker2363
      @joshuabacker2363 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Glumpsy Full up. They've got all the manpower they need to start ruining the west's day again, I'd wager.

    • @Simon39759
      @Simon39759 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Glumpsy Thanks for the update!
      I hadn't seen that info.

  • @minhtrungle9117
    @minhtrungle9117 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    >Ukrainian army intelligence chief Budanov pictured with a new haircut
    >Pringle starts a mutiny
    Coincidence? I think not.

  • @karolinevongunderrode7682
    @karolinevongunderrode7682 ปีที่แล้ว +608

    Perun asking folk not to stage coups to overthrow their government is downright epic...

    • @SirAntoniousBlock
      @SirAntoniousBlock ปีที่แล้ว +53

      It's a standard disclaimer, he's got so many subscribers there's a chance that one of us somewhere might try it.

    • @henrikoldcorn
      @henrikoldcorn ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Don’t doup coups, kids.

    • @Mbeluba
      @Mbeluba ปีที่แล้ว +35

      He's only talking about the democratically elected ones though. So, if an election turns out not to be legitimate...

    • @ericvulgate
      @ericvulgate ปีที่แล้ว +10

      For every potential coup member watching, there are ten FBI.

    • @thentil
      @thentil ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@ericvulgateI wouldn't bet on that 😂

  • @CampbellSimpson
    @CampbellSimpson ปีที่แล้ว +393

    I never thought I'd be watching a Perun video to develop my opinion on *actually current* current events. History in real time, etc. Well done.

    • @woutervan8019
      @woutervan8019 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Imagine my surprise on getting used to my gaming channel giving me detailed analysis of a current war

    • @eljanrimsa5843
      @eljanrimsa5843 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      When Prigozhin declares he no longer wants to serve Emutopia you will see how this channel forms history

    • @somedudeonline-i3t
      @somedudeonline-i3t ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you shouldn't, he just pushes propaganda.

    • @zagreus5773
      @zagreus5773 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@somedudeonline-i3t The only question I have for you is: Are you getting payed by Putin or Prigozhin right now?

    • @somedudeonline-i3t
      @somedudeonline-i3t ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zagreus5773 neither, but you're being played by main stream media and other propaganda outlets.

  • @priyan605
    @priyan605 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    A road trip to Moscow is a very... let's say interesting way to describe what Wagner were doing

    • @ElTigre12024
      @ElTigre12024 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      3 days to Kyiv turned into 24 hours to Moscow. We may not know every detail of what occurred during the mutiny but this is terrible optics for Putin.

    • @madensmith7014
      @madensmith7014 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing happened, so it might as well be

    • @priyan605
      @priyan605 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@madensmith7014 Nothing happened? A dozen troops from the Russian MoD were killed and several helicopters were shot down.
      Not to mention Putin shat his pants at least half a dozen times.

    • @ElTigre12024
      @ElTigre12024 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@priyan605 I’m still waiting for Medvedev to write a drunk tweet about how the Russians need to nuke half of the world to own the West. That will be the icing on the cake.

    • @bazooka712
      @bazooka712 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@madensmith7014 The 2023 Tiannamen Square, Moscow edition

  • @westybestie
    @westybestie ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Perun: "Coup 101"
    Viewers: Yeah, let's goooo!
    Perun: "I just want to State for the record that I'm not encouraging anyone to go out there and overthrow their democratically elected government"
    Viewers: Oh, ok...

    • @External2737
      @External2737 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I loved "Please don't stage a Coup."

    • @americankid7782
      @americankid7782 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      4:59 really got my attention.
      And probably applies to at least 60% of the US rural Population.

    • @ari_a2764
      @ari_a2764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well ukraine overthrew their elected government

    • @kemarisite
      @kemarisite ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ari_a2764you mean they protested against Yanukovich and his status as a Russian meat puppet, at which point he bailed out and returned to Moscow.

  • @RounderRounder
    @RounderRounder ปีที่แล้ว +322

    “Our rush to Moscow is what the push to Kyiv should of looked like”
    Damn, and he’s not wrong.

    • @anglaismoyen
      @anglaismoyen ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Should have

    • @cba4389
      @cba4389 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      They both failed so they were the same. Focus.

    • @Alvi410
      @Alvi410 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Well.. Its kinda what it looked like with one little exception: There were Ukranians in the way.
      The advanced straight along a road. That's it. Wagner did roughly the same meeting only a fel helicopters and and some light units.
      So in a sense: Prighozin demonstrated the russian incompetence by doing roughly what russia did as its opening move in Ukraine and was managing to do it achieving success.

    • @iMost067
      @iMost067 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Push to Kyiv was even faster, and Russia get much closser, from 3 sides too.

    • @VeiloGenaro
      @VeiloGenaro ปีที่แล้ว +56

      ​@@iMost067 Compared to the distance of Rostov to Moscow and the Belarussian border to Kyiv. It is another testament to Russian incompetence.

  • @serjacklucern4584
    @serjacklucern4584 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    as Italian I have to say this:
    "all the graves of italian condottieri from the 1300-1500 were spinning so much that they caused an earthquake"

    • @Paveway-chan
      @Paveway-chan ปีที่แล้ว +8

      🤣

    • @Paveway-chan
      @Paveway-chan ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Something tells me that italians in rome collectively woke up with nightmares of mercenaries sacking the city while the pope hides in castle St. Angelo

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Paveway-chanWhich Pope? They had three at one point…🙂

    • @Paveway-chan
      @Paveway-chan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@grahamstrouse1165
      Clement VII

    • @thekinginyellow1744
      @thekinginyellow1744 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      All of the historians in the crowd upvote this comment.

  • @SpencerHHO
    @SpencerHHO ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Some great quotes in this.
    Perun: "don't do coups"
    "When you finally come to the conclusion that giving a hardened criminal a private army of hardened criminals was not in fact a good idea afterall..."

    • @pRahvi0
      @pRahvi0 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "In other words, one of the responses to the threat posed by the parallel military structure represented by Wagner, is to build up an additional parallel military structure represented by Rosgvardya."

    • @Flamme-Sanabi
      @Flamme-Sanabi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      „Sometimes stupid is just stupid.“

  • @JC_Musician
    @JC_Musician ปีที่แล้ว +266

    I couldn’t stop laughing at the notion of Kadyrov’s excuse,sorry guys our forces are stuck in a traffic jam so we cannot get to there to protect you” 🤣🤣🤣

    • @grzegorzswist
      @grzegorzswist ปีที่แล้ว +53

      I Imagine Kadyrovs getting into cars and just waiting to see who will win, while watching Tik Toks.

    • @oohhboy-funhouse
      @oohhboy-funhouse ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@grzegorzswist They are too busy making Tik Toks to watch Tik Toks.

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Russia needs a bunch of competent troops to defend Moscow. Here were a large number that were willing to come do that, if only they weren't stuck in a traffic jam. Can you imagine Moscow surrounded by Kadyrov's troops to "defined" it?

    • @trolleriffic
      @trolleriffic ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @cubefreak123 That's easy for you to say, you're not the one that would get a ticket! Imagine how much it would cost in traffic fines if all of Kadyrov's forces got booked - he's obviously not a rich man, I mean look at that haircut.

    • @imgvillasrc1608
      @imgvillasrc1608 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lwilton The confusion and sheer terror for the regular Russian would be astonishing. It'd be an ironic twist of fate to have heavily armed Chechens surround and "save" Moscow.

  • @aarav1648
    @aarav1648 ปีที่แล้ว +554

    This was probably the most bizarre coup attempt I have heard of...

    • @KellAnderson
      @KellAnderson ปีที่แล้ว +184

      Ah, but you have heard of it...

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      There's alot of bizarre coup attempts historically lol

    • @dx-ek4vr
      @dx-ek4vr ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Prigozhin’s Bizarre adventure

    • @maciek_k.cichon
      @maciek_k.cichon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was one in Poland in 20. (appart from the 1926 May Coup).
      So few colonels enter Prime Minister office with intent to arrest him and establish their rule.
      The caretaker tells them the bureau is closet and angrily points the finger at the door. Colonels left and the coup fails.
      True story.

    • @Humanaut.
      @Humanaut. ปีที่แล้ว +11

      How many coup attempts have you heard of?
      What's your sample size?

  • @Mahrac126
    @Mahrac126 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Let it be known that on this day Prigozhin was killed in a plane accident caused by rapid and spontaneous cabin decompression. Truly no one could have seen it coming.

  • @mikestanmore2614
    @mikestanmore2614 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    An aborted coup is also known as a Chicken Coup.

    • @matthewg2530
      @matthewg2530 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Or otherwise laying an egg

    • @84MadHatter
      @84MadHatter ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ba dum tiss

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Putsch. Perfect term for failed coups, from Hitler to GKChP.

    • @delfinenteddyson9865
      @delfinenteddyson9865 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@KasumiRINA I believe in german Putsch just means coup, is it different in english?

    • @lacklustermathie
      @lacklustermathie ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Prigozhin coups like a dove.

  • @logwhitley
    @logwhitley ปีที่แล้ว +94

    "Don't do coup's" thank you for the clarification. Saved me a red face

    • @anglaismoyen
      @anglaismoyen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You do coup.

    • @TurboHappyCar
      @TurboHappyCar ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Instructions unclear, now leader of small country... what was the next step? 😂

    • @randomnobodovsky3692
      @randomnobodovsky3692 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TurboHappyCar Prevent another coup.

    • @canadiangemstones7636
      @canadiangemstones7636 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a warning for tronald dump fans who haven’t been locked up.

    • @dx-ek4vr
      @dx-ek4vr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't do coups, stay in School, and eat your Vegetables

  • @TheOneWhoMightBe
    @TheOneWhoMightBe ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The big takeaway for me from all of this is that you could probably drive a Stryker brigade from Warsaw to the Moscow suburbs and the most resistance you'd encounter would be the traffic lights. Russia apparently has nothing meaningful left for internal security.

    • @paulbeesley8283
      @paulbeesley8283 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Last year, a commentator on the Telegraph Channel, repeated the claim that 97% of the Russian Army, were in Ukraine. I replied that this must surely mean that even somewhere like Tajikistan, could invade them.
      It seems that I overestimated Russia's defences.

    • @massgunner4152
      @massgunner4152 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well when you send most of your soldiers to take another country and only leave the ones defending your air bases is really hard to counter political disidence, renember the Pro-ukranian insurgents.

    • @Iv4Bez
      @Iv4Bez ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no, the direct road going through Belarus. And you wouldn't be a Putin's friend so pilot won't hesitate to drop a bomb or few.

    • @squeaky206
      @squeaky206 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Iv4BezAn alternate route would be to take that Stryker Brigade, take it through the Baltics in a joy ride and smash through near Pskov, drive towards Moscow that way and thus avoid Belarus and be in the city hopefully in 144 to 168 hours.

  • @-slasht
    @-slasht ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Just wanted to say: I appreciate the way these videos open. Without any pointless intro or preamble, straight to it and no time wasted (like not even a split second).
    I can't really say why I like it but it just works for me.

    • @Maltesfilm
      @Maltesfilm ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Because it respects your time and actually presents you what you wanted to see

  • @robertmatch6550
    @robertmatch6550 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    What I like most about your verbal essays is your ability to cast events from a rational viewpoint, while never forgetting that we are experiencing profound irrationality. Well done!

    • @slangelands4255
      @slangelands4255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And I used to think that the tragedies of Aeschylus were over the the top......

  • @DavidVT23
    @DavidVT23 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Prigozhin has been upgraded from "unlikely to take any interview requests" to " *extremely* unlikely to take any interview requests."

  • @pgr3290
    @pgr3290 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    All I can think of is the famous Russian Field Marshal Zhukov walking around the Kremlin in The Death Of Stalin like he owns the place. Fictionalized for comedic effect but he really did command the loyalty of the Soviet Army and was virtually untouchable even when Stalin was alive. In reality at best Beria managed to demote and push Zhukov away from the top table for a few years after WW2 but failed to fully dispose of him. Despite trying very hard. Soon after Zhukov returned to the upper echelons following Stalin's death. Khrushchev and Malenkov combined struggled to get rid of Beria, until Zhukov put his weight behind Khrushchev, forced Beria's MVD out and replaced them with the Army. That was the end of Beria. That's true power.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux ปีที่แล้ว +11

      At the same time, Khrushchev whom was a war hero of the Battle of Stalingrad, WAS ousted from power and put under house arrest for the rest of his life. Khrushchev had to smuggle his memoirs to the West, just for anyone to heard anything from him. Pravda only ran a one-sentence announcement of the former premier's death.

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zhukov was a man who managed to not get purged, right before the largest war ever waged. He naturally, not being an idiot, looked really smart while surrounded by morons, and he naturally did very well considering he had so many resources to use and was fighting the Nazis... Who were on drugs, insane, or as stupid as the people around Zhukov.

  • @AkiseAk
    @AkiseAk ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Isn't this the fastest you've ever put a complete video together on a sudden new topic? O.o
    That's really quick analysis

    • @PerunAU
      @PerunAU  ปีที่แล้ว +95

      It is - but this felt like a rare and special circumstance.

    • @RaptorJesus
      @RaptorJesus ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@PerunAU Fingers crossed there'll be a second attempt, one that won't lose their nerve on the cusp of throwing Russia into chaos.

    • @nextinstitute7824
      @nextinstitute7824 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Careful what you wish for...

    • @RaptorJesus
      @RaptorJesus ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nextinstitute7824 It'd be a net-positive for world stability. The nukes aren't going anywhere, and it'd result in a Russia who can no longer bully her neighbors.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RaptorJesus seriously nukes are ALREADY in wrong hands. Them infighting is objectively weakening their potential to attack everyone else.

  • @imgvillasrc1608
    @imgvillasrc1608 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    27:44 As a veteran tank commander of Erusea that fought during the Usean Coup D'etat, Continental War, and the Lighthouse War, I can attest that pilots do truly stand apart from the rest of the human race.

  • @jaredmcfadden7793
    @jaredmcfadden7793 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Left Canada for Ukraine a week ago. When you started these PowerPoints in Feb 2022 I never imagined I’d end up listening to them in Ukraine. What a journey it has been

    • @cat-.-
      @cat-.- ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you go to have a tour or what

    • @Justnotoverthink
      @Justnotoverthink ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Good luck

    • @jaredmcfadden7793
      @jaredmcfadden7793 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      No combat just for humanitarian aid. No prior military experience so would be a liability on the battlefield

    • @bobjohnbowles
      @bobjohnbowles ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@jaredmcfadden7793 Stay safe, mate

    • @catc8927
      @catc8927 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Best of luck, stay safe, thank you for helping Ukraine

  • @justmymage
    @justmymage ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Perun's videos really are the highlight of my week. The detail, the different topics from industry to logistics to battlefront and private conscriptovich's adventures. Never know what you're going to get but its always fascinating. Many thanks and keep up the good work!

    • @allamasadi7970
      @allamasadi7970 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      More like Private Conscriptovics misadventures

    • @tdb7992
      @tdb7992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me, this was his most enjoyable video. Really interesting stuff.

  • @landenmoudy5749
    @landenmoudy5749 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Perun is one of the only youtubers that has half a million subscribers and within 1 day of posting the video has 400k views. His viewers are persistant in watching his videos in mass. You dont see that often.

    • @planofman8599
      @planofman8599 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You seldom see things presented so factually, so briefly, with very little bias, and with honest to God humor. Quite good humor, at that. Much needed levity for a topic as serious and dire as this one.
      To top it all off, it's a PowerPoint presentation. So you don't actually have to eyeball the video 100% of the time. You can listen to it like a podcast.

    • @landenmoudy5749
      @landenmoudy5749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@planofman8599 i listen to the videos while I'm at work so it does work like a podcast of some sort. It's refreshing to have a non bias view going over incredibly important strategies and implementations countries use during war time.

    • @papermario3982
      @papermario3982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially impressive because they're all an hour long!

  • @paulm749
    @paulm749 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    Yet again, Perun provides a clear-headed, spin-free evaluation of a major geo-political event. As the old saying goes, information is power - but only if it's solid, reliable information.

    • @allydea
      @allydea ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's not spin-free though. His interpretation is that the result of the uprising is embarrassing for Russia and Putin. While it may be embarrassing that it was allowed to start, to me it's quite impressive and a sign of power and control that it was all "resolved" without much violence. Perhaps it was not deliberate or controlled, but as an outcome, it's about as good as it could've been. Having the 2 factions fight each other just to show that the Russian army is strong and willing to resist would've been a disaster.

    • @pirminp7090
      @pirminp7090 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​​@@allydeaes and no it doesnt show strength of the russian side since the deal was made through lukashenko. Also the russians didnt defend that much (apart from the casualties which are very few)

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@allydea It's only possible to take that position if you ignore the problems necessary for Prighozin's _whatever_ to start. 'Embarrassing' is pretty much the best possible outcome for very publicly losing control of an army. An unembarassed ruling clique would have prevented it from starting in any number of ways, ranging from secret police discovering and neutering the event, keeping Wagner's loyalty so they kept working their problems through channels, prevented Wagner from having a beef with the government, or maybe inculcating a belief that armed confrontation was certain to make a favorable resolution less likely.

    • @joshuabacker2363
      @joshuabacker2363 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@boobah5643 The spin of it being embarrassing seems stupid to begin with because Russia isn't a democracy. What the average person thinks doesn't matter, and nobody in the west's opinion will change the Kremlin's stance on anything either.
      And that's the other problem. The FSB has people in Wagner. They absolutely knew. Even Strelkov and others knew and signaled that this was coming. And yet, there was hardly any response, no military maneuvering in reply to Wagner, no fighting, and the only results are that Russia is no longer liable for anything Wagner does and they've relocated all their equipment and personnel up to the border where they can hit Kiev or the baltics whenever they want.
      They made the Russian version of ISIS: A State-funded, state-backed paramilitary that's completely deniable.

    • @polygondwanaland8390
      @polygondwanaland8390 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@allydea "without much violence" is a euphemism, Russia lost half a squadron of helicopters and a surveillance aircraft. That itself is an embarrassing failure.

  • @zemog1025
    @zemog1025 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The Wagner convoy action was more of flying column than a thunder run. It was more of an effort to get to a specific location as rapidly as possible versus a deliberate raid with intent to demonstrate overwhelming fire power raid into the heart of the enemy defenses. Similar to coup versus mutiny difference. I do like the Mad Max style convoy reference that someone posted in the comments, and that may actually best describe the Wagner convoy.
    The US Army (3rd ID) conducted the two famous Thunder Runs into Bagdad in 2003 by the using a reinforced armored brigade to blast through the teeth of the Iraqi defenses and maneuver at will in order to demonstrate that resistance was futile. Those two raids achieved their purpose and shattered the Iraqi's will to fight. A thunder run is not a blitzkrieg, flying column, nor an operational breakthrough as it has been described in recent pop culture. There is a great book, Thunder Run by David Zucchino, that explains how the concept evolved and was enacted on the fly by Col. David the Spartan Brigade commander of the 3rd ID.

  • @netram2000
    @netram2000 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I think, one thing the mutiny clearly showed is that Wagner was unable to generate significant immediate support. I guess it's because of how depoliticised the society is. Everyone was watching, everyone was chatting, but next to no regular civilian felt personally addressed by the events. Like watching a game of sports you're not emotionally invested in.

    • @netram2000
      @netram2000 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And on the topic of security kerfuffles around Moscow: yes it's a bad look, but I wouldn't step on too high of a horse thinking of fairly recent events like 01/06/22. The element of surprise seems to have been in effect and powerfully so.

    • @live_free_or_perish
      @live_free_or_perish ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly 💯

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Things like this happen a lot in the third world. People are trained to not care and are disarmed so they can't do anything.
      Then factions take turns couping or purging each other.

    • @christopherjones8448
      @christopherjones8448 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean the people aren't stupid, they know Putin isn't doing great in this war but If they have any idea of how bad the war is really going, they likely don't buy that Prigozhin is somehow some nicer, better saint for the Russian people. Just another dictator who will be just as bad if he wins, why should they give a fuck who does?

    • @live_free_or_perish
      @live_free_or_perish ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robertjones-iv7wq "oblivious" applies as well.

  • @thomasdowning6768
    @thomasdowning6768 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    By far the most level-headed reporting on the Wagner affair to date.

  • @PLAYER2035
    @PLAYER2035 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I think the fact that Wagner took all payments from the Russian government and kept all their cash in $USD tells everything we need to know about the state of Russia. Didn’t even trust their own currency 😂

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Russia is an exporter, which means they naturally do not want a strong currency. However, they export a lot of fossil fuels, which drives up the value of their currency.
      Also, Russian currency isn't accepted in many places due to sanctions. So why use it?

    • @Hiltok
      @Hiltok ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They're nasty guys but they're not idiots.

  • @RyanHellyer
    @RyanHellyer ปีที่แล้ว +67

    That was a stunning breakdown. Your ability to take a complicated story and break it down and explain it in a sensible easy is epic.

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I did not have a Russian coup attempt on my Russi-Ukrainian War bingo card but boy am I happy it happened

    • @zallmir
      @zallmir ปีที่แล้ว

      They wanted a bloody massacre in Russia, but it didn't work out. It is very sad, very sad, because I so wanted a civil war, and bad Putin did not allow it, so he is weak. It's so European))))

    • @tristanridley1601
      @tristanridley1601 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? An actual Russian coup is one of the more likely way this finally ends.

    • @garak55
      @garak55 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I did. Do you remember the last time a russian president went away without violence? Me neither.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garak551999.

    • @josephhooton7781
      @josephhooton7781 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Gorbachev was such an innovator in Russian politics. He invented retirement

  • @ishleyro5457
    @ishleyro5457 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This is easily the best video I've seen on this topic thus far. Your thoroughness, attention to detail, and willingness to wait for more and better information instead of simply charging ahead with a hot topic for the sake of the views are all always appreciated

  • @nobeardthepirate8569
    @nobeardthepirate8569 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Wagner Mercs definitely need to sign those contracts. Imagine tens of thousands of experienced soldiers distributed through the military, disgruntled, because they just lost one job, having just taken a pay cut.
    Especially in a military without a strong NCO corps, where experience literally is the measure of enlisted authority, how could that possibly go wrong?

    • @johanneslinnemann6660
      @johanneslinnemann6660 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Had the same thought: What if we see a Wagner-coup / - mutiny 2.0 in some weeks or months, but this time from within the official military. Ex-Wagnerites spread in different army-units, recruiting more normal soldiers for the cause.

    • @dimas3829
      @dimas3829 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      those who didn't were relocated to Belarus into exile. Now they are acting as sitting ducks in big camps for Ukraine to attack - which will drag Belarus military into conflict on Russia's side.

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Imagine those same troops going to live in Belarus, possibly with a fair amount of the hardware the MOD wants them to give back. Their owner has been loud about the whole Ukrainian war being a royal cock-up, and has pulled the troops off the front lines. He doesn't want them fighting there, and the MOD doesn't want them fighting there, except as individuals that can be sent to various places. My conclusion is that Wagner isn't going to go back into Ukraine, it is too costly for them. So what are they going to do? Maybe Lukashenko can now apply some leverage against Putin trying to take over Belarus? I can see the Union State possibly dissolving.

    • @bluemarlin8138
      @bluemarlin8138 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@dimas3829I doubt Belarus and its 20,000 man army would go to war in Ukraine over attacks on some Wagner camps. Lukashenko has reasons for avoiding this war at all costs. First, Belarus can’t really contribute much, but would be basically guaranteed to have its army (and only defense against Ruzzia) turned into fertilizer. Second, it’s rumored that the Belarusian army would mutiny if ordered to enter the war, because they don’t particularly like Lukashenko/Putin or dislike Ukraine, and because they don’t want to die for a cause they don’t agree with. And if they mutiny, there’s not much Ruzzia can do to stop them as far as ground forces, because the Ruzzian army is tied up in Ukraine. I guess they could send in some Rosgvardia, but they’re no match for an actual military, and they’re obviously needed to stamp out dissent at home.

    • @nobeardthepirate8569
      @nobeardthepirate8569 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bluemarlin8138 not to mention that Poland and Lithuania have been waiting for an excuse to go take on Anyone. They would love an excuse to take out Lukashenko, and with Russia tied up in Ukraine, Lukashenko would be practically defenseless.

  • @biggiouschinnus7489
    @biggiouschinnus7489 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My primary concern is what this means for Russian internal stability. Putin had just shown his weakness, and that's dangerous when you have an awful lot of regions that would probably like to be independent - not to mention neighbours, like Georgia and Kazakhstan, that have bones to pick. If Russia became a democracy I'd be ecstatic, but somehow I suspect a series of bloody wars and insurgencies is more likely. None of which will benefit Europe, due to the floods of refugees and potential terrorist radicalisation that will occur. Not to mention the circling vulture that is Communist China. I have no doubt that the CCP are eyeing Siberia very hungrily indeed.

    • @phoenix211245
      @phoenix211245 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd imagine the ccp would prefer to set up a puppet state instead of grabbing territory directly. Still fragmentation of Russia with all of the nukes floating around......

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux ปีที่แล้ว

      I kind of doubt Russia can become a democracy. Even if the Putin regime falls, the West has already been burned by the fall of the Soviet Union. Even if a provisional Republic will form, it wont get much support because of a perceived inevitably that another autocrat will take over.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Juat close the border.
      Europe knows about refugees.

  • @giorgialadashvili4771
    @giorgialadashvili4771 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    This rebellion, coup or whatever it was, makes the Kornilov affair from 1917 look clear and understandable by comparison.

    • @rodgerhempfing2921
      @rodgerhempfing2921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mutiny, aka dummy spit

    • @scottmacgregor3444
      @scottmacgregor3444 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      We do have about a century of research, hindsight, and analysis on that. On this, we currently have...

    • @danielkol477
      @danielkol477 ปีที่แล้ว

      What the fuck is not clear after watching an hour long video on the topic? Wagner as a structure was supposed to be integrated into MoD as opposed to being a separate structure by 01.07., the state funding would have been cut the same day. Instead of rolling over Prigozhin went va banque and played his only and final card in order to preserve the status quo. However Putin was not up for that sort of negiotiation and the whole thing ended with minimal bloodshed/damage.

  • @mENTALdRIFTER
    @mENTALdRIFTER ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love that moment Perun realized he might be influential enough to incite people to rebellion

    • @nmatavka
      @nmatavka ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sedition is not cool. :P

  • @peterproga9811
    @peterproga9811 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Plan: Kyiv in 3 days
    Reality: Moscow in 1 day
    😂

    • @bc-cu4on
      @bc-cu4on ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, Rostov.

  • @ianp1012
    @ianp1012 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Perun, the perfect blend of insight, info-dumping, sarcasm, professional roasting, and Taylor Swift fan extraordináire.
    Wondeful job as always!

  • @zhshsG7
    @zhshsG7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    It baffles my mind how you can do such extensive research in such a short notice. You truly are a blessing for youtube's audience.

  • @caliperstorm8343
    @caliperstorm8343 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I fully expected the “coups 101” section to be presented by Max Pichardo

    • @PerunAU
      @PerunAU  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I miss having time for that channel.

  • @Alexandragon1
    @Alexandragon1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    YAY! Finally Perun's video!
    Thx for the video!

  • @kazkaskazkas8689
    @kazkaskazkas8689 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    41:28 Those "street sweepers" looked totally unnatural, they were definitely some agents monitoring the situation. They acted as if they had zero awareness of the surroundings while also not looking drunk. I assure you, street sweepers in Russia don't get paid enough to just keep working and ignoring any possible danger.

  • @IWantOrangesNOW
    @IWantOrangesNOW ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Coups 101? I can't wait to use this newfound knowledge when I launch one against my boss tomorrow.

  • @LittleJuanKenobi
    @LittleJuanKenobi ปีที่แล้ว +19

    In a year and a half we went from talking about the Russians marching on Kiev to the Russians marching on Moscow. Usually when I heard someone say something to that effect earlier in the war it was in the context of a popular movement to unseat Putin. Don't think anyone expected it to apply to a mercenary army.

  • @timcussins
    @timcussins ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The idea of refusing to roll out the tanks as a 'stylistic choice' - classic. Never change, Perun, never change ❤

  • @Pilvenuga
    @Pilvenuga ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Perun is such a great presenter, he even makes his sponsors seem as important as the topics he discusses

  • @hamptonnager4104
    @hamptonnager4104 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Never been more ready to re-listen to an hour+ of slideshow. Great, great stuff.

  • @rinflame44
    @rinflame44 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Perun taking the 'Don't try this at home' thing to different heights.

  • @BloodiedShingle
    @BloodiedShingle ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Perun's videos have prepared us uncannily well for this very topic.

  • @__Andrew_
    @__Andrew_ ปีที่แล้ว +9

    PERUNE: we adore your unique brand of humour, dry wit, sarcasm, satire.

  • @blanchjoe1481
    @blanchjoe1481 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Dear Perun, Once again many thanks to the well developed and insightful piece of work, I know how many man hours this takes and I appreciate your efforts. I am very glad you made the comment of how utterly "distanced" the Russian Military was from this event, and perhaps even more telling, how completely uninterested the Russian people were ( and perhaps still are ). The TH-cam Russian commentator Vlad Vexler has often noted, that one of the major reasons the Putin Russian State has the ability to act as it does is, is not only because it is, for all intents and purposes, it is a Mob State ( though I think the American Chicago Mob Boss Al Capone was a better organizer ) and has access to the vast resources of the FSB and local Police, but that he has created an "Unspoken agreement" understood between the Putin State and the Russian People, and that agreement is that I ( Putin ) will allow you partial political autonomy in your region, but more importantly I will allow you to live your lives as you wish, but you must be "totally disengaged" from internal and external politics, allowing me ( Putin ) to wield and stay in power as I see fit. So is it any wonder that the populations of Russian citizens merely "'selfied" the entire event, or watched from an wholly disengaged sidelines, they have no interest in whether Russian "wins" the war with Ukraine, or if the Putin Regime stays or falls, as long is it does not disturb their world and this agreement. This is why Putin is so fearful of adopting the hard liner Conservative position of adopting a policy of Mass Mobilization, because Putin ( and the Oligarchs ) know that this breaks the unspoken agreement.

    • @paulrevere2379
      @paulrevere2379 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Face up towards the selfie device is the new head burried in the sand.

    • @bbgun061
      @bbgun061 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sending young men to die in Ukraine isn't exactly allowing them to live as they wish...

  • @fikriali3857
    @fikriali3857 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Ah yes,time to spend my weekend by watching an Australian explaining about the mutiny in Russia
    Cant complain at all,best weekly show ever😎🤙

    • @YOURDADSDILDO
      @YOURDADSDILDO ปีที่แล้ว

      Western propaganda*

    • @Lazy_Tim
      @Lazy_Tim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@YOURDADSDILDO You sad "man".

    • @MrEMeat-kk9tc
      @MrEMeat-kk9tc ปีที่แล้ว +13

      “Australia”? Where’s that? Is it near Emutopia?

    • @zallmir
      @zallmir ปีที่แล้ว

      They wanted a bloody massacre in Russia, but it didn't work out. It is very sad, very sad, because I so wanted a civil war, and bad Putin did not allow it, so he is weak. It's so European))))

    • @EthanDyTioco
      @EthanDyTioco ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MrEMeat-kk9tcAll my homies pledge allegiance to Kiwiland 🥝

  • @Bryceb1773
    @Bryceb1773 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    To anyone interesed in what just happened, or the theory behind coups, I’d really recommend Edward Luttwak’s “Coup D’Etat: A Practical Handbook.” It’s been read by actual perpetrators of coups in some small countries, and has also been used by some governments to put systems in place to prepare themselves against such attempts.
    It was rather hilariously ironic to read a book about the theory behind a proper coup, and then see one happen in real time that didn’t follow any of the rules in Luttwak’s book 😂.

    • @carloduroni5629
      @carloduroni5629 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agree! I read this book a few years ago and it's fantastically clever and interesting. Although written in the pre-internet & pre-mobile phones era (which obviously changes some technicalities), its principles are well sound.

    • @scottmacgregor3444
      @scottmacgregor3444 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Which is evidence that this was perhaps not a coup.

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I read a JSTOR about coups and Africa. Basically if multiple groups don't trust each other, and except to be banned from politics or be couped, they will try and coup first.
      The result of most failed coups is a purge and/or civil-war, most successful coups is either a purge and/ or a civil-war

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@scottmacgregor3444 It was clearly just a guy trying to not get killed, and PMCs wanting to not be moved under worse leadership.
      I'm hearing they'll get exiled to Africa, which is what they want. They got rich fighting idiots in Africa.

    • @glennsimpson7659
      @glennsimpson7659 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also left a comment recommending this excellent book. It so inspired me, I once tried to design a board wargame around it - seizing the radio station and Ministry of the Interior were the key to success in the 1070s, but I guess things are more complicated these days!

  • @ethanshupe4403
    @ethanshupe4403 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for being willing to put your schedule on hold in order to deal with current events. I know that must be hectic for you, but I really appreciate it. This was us such a mess and it’s changing so fast. Your calm and well reasoned analysis is always helpful.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is hard work for him but that’s how this channel started in the first place

  • @Danksta911
    @Danksta911 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    … in the universal language of high explosives…
    You know it‘s going to be a good episode when Perun starts like that😊

  • @josef6172
    @josef6172 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That Perun had to say don't do coups shows he knows his auidence very well.

  • @the_undead
    @the_undead ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think my favourite part of this entire video is how casually he says "Alright, so that said, let's talk about how to effectively overthrow a government"

  • @diekssus7194
    @diekssus7194 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This has been an incredible recap of the events. One of your best video's yet.

  • @MDCDiGiPiCs
    @MDCDiGiPiCs ปีที่แล้ว +32

    An hour of non stop on point logical commentary. Thanks Perun, love your work.

    • @LukeBunyip
      @LukeBunyip ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Week after week after week...

  • @TheDarkangelKx
    @TheDarkangelKx ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "Please don't do coups" is the PSA I didn't think I needed today

    • @randomnobodovsky3692
      @randomnobodovsky3692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      New day, new me, as they say, however.

    • @trolleriffic
      @trolleriffic ปีที่แล้ว

      Telling me not to do coups? He's not the boss of me, he's not even my real dad!

    • @useodyseeorbitchute9450
      @useodyseeorbitchute9450 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a PSA. It's just disclaimer to keep this well researched instruction material as advertiser friendly.

  • @scottn2046
    @scottn2046 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was living in Istanbul during the failed coup of 2016 and all I can say it was f**** scary - I spent the night hiding in the dark behind the couch with my neighbour trying to decide if the loud bangs were the airforce dropping bombs or just doing sonic booms. I'm not a fan of Erdogan but his followers were extraordinarily brave to go out onto the streets and fight the army for their man. And so I agree totally with Perun here that one of the few takeaways from this thing is [insert preferred noun here] is the apparent lack of anyone willing to do the same for Putin, particularly in Rostov on Don.

    • @attilamarics3374
      @attilamarics3374 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lack of anybody? The National guard was around Rostov and built defenses in Moscow waiting for the orders to shoot. You guys are morons and Perun does barely any research, he just regurgitates MSM talkingpoints. He does no work.

    • @amyiyen
      @amyiyen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@attilamarics3374He meant the people buddy. Your average russian didnt seem to give a fuck if wagner succeeded or not

  • @paulstewart1557
    @paulstewart1557 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Great update Perun. And as a fellow Aussie, I like to hear such lucid information delivered in the local vernacular on a globally important issue

    • @lynleygilchrist7703
      @lynleygilchrist7703 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I second this ❤

    • @catc8927
      @catc8927 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a ‘murican, I love the dry Aussie humor and the accent. It’s what makes Bluey extra cute too, kids speaking Aussie.

  • @williamholmes7529
    @williamholmes7529 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Another excellent video essay. Perun sets the standard that mainstream media struggles to achieve. Bravo Sir, bravo 👏👏👏

  • @JMM33RanMA
    @JMM33RanMA ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Of course POV is running wild on all sides, and Perun has, as usual, evaluated this in very nuanced detail. My favorite extreme POV is that Vladimir Vladimirovich Czar, Great Khan and Autokrator of All of Russia is in actuality the Potemkin president of a Potemkin country with a Potemkin government fielding a Potemkin Army. Thanks for another absolutely amazing and fact-filled video Perun!

  • @ralalbatross
    @ralalbatross ปีที่แล้ว +89

    If you asked anyone familiar with the kleptocracy of Russia, they would have told you that pseudo fuedal oligarchies where everyone is arming themselves tend to crack when facing external political pressure that can't be avoided.
    They are semi stable due to entrenched power structures. Ukraine knew what it was doing in Bakhmut

    • @bobjohnbowles
      @bobjohnbowles ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I can't say I think that was one of Ukraine's planned outcomes, but they certainly have the adaptability to take advantage of it.

    • @joshuabacker2363
      @joshuabacker2363 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sacrificing its male population, lol.

    • @hirdbarding3399
      @hirdbarding3399 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshuabacker2363 yeah, russia did a strike in that, 230k dead terrorussians now

    • @oohhboy-funhouse
      @oohhboy-funhouse ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobjohnbowles Causing the fall of Putin or Russia as a whole is most definitely one of Ukraine's goals as one path to victory. Zelenskyy has stated they cannot negotiate with Putin as in they will not pick up the phone.

    • @ralalbatross
      @ralalbatross ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobjohnbowles No, it was.
      Bakhmut was a political issue as far back as last November in Russia. They could never have said it because the west would never have understood political sacrifice, but Bakhmut was an operation solely to hammer a political divide from an assailable position.
      You could tell it was because the strategic reasoning for holding Bakhmut city itself never made any sense unless you took into context that it was the main theatre in which Wagner were publicly known to be operating and the war of words between the MoD and Wagner had escalated for months.
      It achieved it's strategic goal ten fold. It broke Putins power base, severely weakened the war effort and came close to starting a Russian civil war.
      It was an operation that required an understanding of oligarchal Russian politics and it was worth the political and military risks - which while they seemed high to us were essentially the equivalent of the Navy withdrawing US Marines because of friendly fire incidents.

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is like if the head of blackwater became so fed up with Pentagon corruption that he gave Smedley Butler's "war is a racket" speech before marching his men toward Washington, successfully taking down several Apaches and Blackhawks and a C-130, and was abruptly talked out of marching on DC by Justin Trudeau, moving to Canada, and everyone involved receiving a presidential pardon the next day, while police departments around the country began showing interest in the F-35 program.

  • @riffzifnab9254
    @riffzifnab9254 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Having a "Please do not stage coups" slide is a positive indicator of good Perun content. Ironic given the Terra Invicta playthroughs though. (:

  • @dixonpinfold2582
    @dixonpinfold2582 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We're really in Plato's cave on this one, peering at flickering shadows on the wall.
    And the real story may emerge within mere months...or never.
    We may reach a point where we think we know, but in reality do not.
    A lot of things are like that, of course, but this one is _really_ like that.

  • @paulmahoney7619
    @paulmahoney7619 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "This relationship is at least 10% more toxic than your average office rivalry." I don't know man, I've seen some people who would put a hand grenade under their bosses' pillow if they thought they could get away with it.

  • @ann-marieeigert2720
    @ann-marieeigert2720 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Quoting one of my favourite Russia experts, Julia Ioffe: ”Russians are messy”. There is a lot less 6D chess than we tend to assume.

    • @garak55
      @garak55 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I heard a quote that went something like : "Paying attention to Russian politics is like watching a cat and a dog fight under a blanket. You can't see shit, you don't understand anything and the only thing you can do is wait until one of them comes out alive."

    • @icipher6730
      @icipher6730 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@garak55 "Kremlin political intrigues are comparable to a bulldog fight under a rug. An outsider only hears the growling, and when he sees the bones fly out from beneath it is obvious who won." ―Churchill

    • @ontheline3077
      @ontheline3077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yes, Westerners with their Orientalism))

    • @thunderspark1536
      @thunderspark1536 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@ontheline3077I mean it's a pretty good description. For America for example you can see the two bulldogs fighting, but often times it's more for show than anything else and leads to little.
      Russia on the other hand tries to keep the front of the big stonk bear, and is currently failing miserably.

    • @ann-marieeigert2720
      @ann-marieeigert2720 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ontheline3077 She’s from Russia tho )))

  • @Keln02
    @Keln02 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    "Now lets take about ho to effectively overthrow a government " had me laughing for a good minute

  • @brookechang4942
    @brookechang4942 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking back on this six months later makes me think of Prigozhin as the Duke of Gloucester to Putin's Richard II: "We do not rebel or arm ourselves against the king except in order to instruct him." Worked out about as well, too.

  • @paulmcgregor6411
    @paulmcgregor6411 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    To quote Perun “this is Russia! There are no happy endings!”

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One could sum up Prigozhin’s protestations that accompanied the mutiny as “The MoD doesn’t have the common decency to give me a reach around.”

  • @kcmisulis425
    @kcmisulis425 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The Image of Putin as the Once and Future King is shattered. No matter what happens from here, everyone knows what life without him is like, both internally and externally. We're no longer worried about scaring Putin, because he is scared, and should be.

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Might want to hold your horse a bit there. Turns out _fear_ is an analog signal, not digital, and worse, people respond to increasing the amplitude.

    • @kcmisulis425
      @kcmisulis425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@boobah5643 Oh no, now he's going to use his secret army! They were so strategically hidden during the coup that now they're *really* coming! 😱

  • @Venom2U
    @Venom2U ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Perun, normally I listen to your presentations with gleeful interest. And normally, your assessments are spot on to my knowledge. However, in this one you stumbled on to my field of expertise. Specifically; Nuclear, Biological and Chemical warfare. Going forward we'll ignore the chem and bio sides, and focus on Nuks and operational status.
    At around +- 29:25 you stated "You may find missiles or warheads. But not Both" (something to that effect) in your discussion of Voronzh-45. In "peace" time that statement would be "mostly" correct. Depending on the specific weapon system, (there ARE exceptions) warheads and delivery systems are not stored in close proximity to one another, or in a "ready for use" state. Whether it's the US, Britain, France Or Russia all militaries around the world follow this basic precept. "In peace time (or LOW Readiness states. This is critical) keep all of the dangerous stuff locked down and safe............."
    Here's the problem....... Russia is NOT in a low readiness state! Over and over both Russia (and confirmed by the US) have commented on how Russia is in a "high" state of readiness for its nuclear forces. example - crisis24.garda.com/alerts/2022/10/europe-russia-implements-heightened-alert-levels-oct-20-extends-flight-restrictions-at-southwestern-airports-until-oct-28-update-89 Was Putin just saber rattling?? I can't speak to that. But I CAN speak to Russian MOP's (method of procedure) to achieving readiness levels. To achieve medium and high levels of readiness warheads will be assembled to an operational state, AND their delivery systems will be relocated to be in close proximity. (In preparation for final assembly. Should it be ordered) Now typically warheads will NOT be moved from their storage centers (this is viewed as VERY provocative). But the delivery systems will be moved to the warheads.
    So, to say if Wagner had taken Voronzh-45 they wouldn't have found anything is DEAD WRONG. If Wagner had taken Voronzh-45, whatever is stored there (IF anything is stored there. it could be empty) has a VERY high probability of being operational. And its delivery system is also in close proximity.............. That is the nature of nuclear readiness...............

  • @honestlyreed1612
    @honestlyreed1612 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "without [a bunch of things that didn't happen], a few thousand Wagnerites in Red Square, ultimately, weren't going to achieve anything... other than, of course, guaranteeing that Ukraine would run out of popcorn for as long as the operation continued" -Perun (2023)

  • @PinchytheCrab00
    @PinchytheCrab00 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "Please don't do coups!" Love it, powerpoint man! Thanks as always for your content.

    • @trolleriffic
      @trolleriffic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't do coups? Oh dear, I must have missed that bit. I need to make some phonecalls...

  • @carlsojos
    @carlsojos ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I once bought a sportscar that was 35 years old, sight-unseen, taken apart and reassembled by the previous owner with bolts left over, which broke down underneath a casino while driving back to the hotel room, and drove it home halfway across the U.S. (Las Vegas to Illinois) while at the same time a blizzard caused a major freeway on my route to shut down for an entire day without any support beyond a co-driver.
    Sometimes road trips make for the most compelling stories.