This is why I wasn't upset when he died. He couldn't handle the simplest things as a boss, let alone the larger stuff. The show made him pay for it. Oh well.
Yea Manny was even patient with him. And Manny made it crystal clear he's not the kind of guy you fuck over. It was just dumb, even if it was a death wish he got his wife killed over it and I'm sure he never wanted that.
Jimmy is almost unconsciously unresponsive to threats, challenges, and whimsies posed to him by the characters with whom he is confronted. That is an individual that has bore witness to such atrocities that he is no longer effected by trivialities. War will do that.
It wasn’t intimidation that he did that. Nobody could intimidate him. He just would get tired of hearing something or didn’t want to keep arguing about something he would do it. It being slice throat or try to have Nucky killed. He was scared of no one. Plus slicing his throat instead of shooting like manny prob expected showed what level jimmy was on as a bad ass.
Allen Iverson I think that scene had more to do with Jimmy’s inability to navigate obstacles within his business. He made poor business decisions and was inexperienced with power plays and positioning at the top. Jimmy was an effective soldier he wasn’t a very good politician. That’s why at the veterans memorial opening Jimmy came up to Nucky and said “you don’t think I know how to play this game?” And Nucky says to Jimmy “I don’t even think you know the rules” it all ended up being true unfortunately
Should've taken Manny seriously. Manny was very patient. Jimmy just couldn't be bothered to give him what he was owed. He got cocky, and two innocent women died because of it.
@@deathrager2404 Yes, Michael Pitt was hard to work with, however, storywise, i think was also the feeling that Manny gave to jimmy, like a father authority figure. As we all know from jimmy's upbringing, that never set in well with him. For starter's his relationship with the commodore, or the reunion with the elders at the mansion when he got hit by one of them for not taking things seriously, ending in a reckless retaliation. As @Brendissimo points out, Manny's patience was strong, specially towards jimmy because, eventho the meeting was a success and he saw in jimmy a man on the come and saw him as a kid that could learn, he knew business was business, 5k or 500k didn't matter. By the time Jimmy pushed doyle off the second floor at babbette's, he knew jimmy didn't have what it takes to keep his affairs in order, or learn by that matter.
Actually it was lucky luc that owed manny and jimmy just said he would cover it for him. Then yes never did but that’s just cause he didn’t like manny.
@@GlennShook Jimmy made the deal,he pissed on nucky at this point. He wanted to be top dog and couldnt even come up with five grand. Great killer,pathetic embarassing "leader material". If youre right,then that would mean nucky was friends with jimmy. They cut ties.
Well not really the failed attempt on nuckeys life is what killed Jimmy, Manny killed Jimmy's wife. But yea, Jimmy handled that very wrong. Money and power got to his head!!
@Michael P yes he meant to fuck Manny over!!His plan was to hire waxy Gordon's mug to kill Manny instead of paying him the 5 Gran, that he owed Manny. But the hit was botched and Manny retaliated killing JIMMY'S wife on accident.
+smoothcriminal28 Agreed. He totally nailed his part. But I think that was a requirement of ALL the actors on Boardwalk Empire. NOBODY disappoints Marty Scorsese.
I think he’s more surprised that Jimmy laughed off his threat. Not worried, but he turned off his pleasant persona because he saw this is a man he can’t pressure.
Nicely done scene. William Forsythe's accent is perfect. The dialogue flows smoothly and the story clicks along. One of the things I liked about Boardwalk Empire is that even the less dramatic scenes were complete, polished and enjoyable to watch. I miss this show. One of the best I've ever seen on "the small screen".
I really like this scene. It was charming and some nice dialogue. Manny and Jimmy had chemistry and I thought nice connection. It's so disappointing how things just went badly after this among all of them
I blame Jimmy. You can't treat a man like Manny Horvitz like that and not expect consequences. He started off being respectful and then.........ah well.
freddybeer I know😔 I didn't understand why but after reading other comments, I guess Jimmy didn't have the money to pay him back and he certainly didn't have the booze.
He should have gone to see him, explained. It would have shown respect. To ignore him, hoping he would go away, utterly foolhardy! Meh, hey that's the script that was written, eh? Just showed that Jimmy didn't have what it took to be a boss. Quote Tony Soprano : 'Those that want respect, give respect.'
That, and he didn't really care what he lived or died. It was made pretty clear that he considered himself dead man ever since the war anyway. Or at least, Jimmy Darmody the Boy was dead, and Jimmy Darmody the Gangster would either have it all or die trying.
@@stevensonbak Well fucking Manny over got his wife killed too and he never wanted that, he loved her. She was also the mother of his son, and thanks to him getting himself and his wife killed his son grew up without parents and with nothing to live for but revenge on Nucky.
TheSealOfTheRose Probably not smart of Manny to belittle him in front of strangers, you can tell Herman doesn't like it. No wonder he went behind his back with Waxy.
Fun fact- Eastern State Penitentiary is still standing in Philadelphia, though it only functions as a museum (and a haunted house come Halloween). Al Capone was sent there, and his cell is restored to his original specifications. Seen in this photo, it's clearly a cut above what the rest of the prison's population had to deal with- upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Al_Capone%27s_Cell_In_Eastern_State_Penitentiary.jpg
@John Nichols Ha, that's awesome. If it has "chippendale" style drawer pulls, it was likely constructed in Pennsylvania. We had something similar when I was growing up. We always called it the "secretary". I'm sure that piece is worth something, not to mention weighs a ton lol.
@@JGunit I think this was his way of continuing the act of being just a baby, while also letting him know that the comment didn't mean shit to him. If I were Manny I would have seen it as a disrespectful return and cancelled the deal.
@Brutus Tan I think that is how Manny took it based on how it played out. But had he took it how I took it then he would have avoided an assassination attempt, and a whole lot of drama.
+Leon Delvechio Ramirez RIchard's quote there was kind of a graceful - and humorous - double-edged sword: 1. It's self-effacing and 2. It's kind of a gracious, but back-handed admonition to Manny to mind his own business about how his face got deformed. Richard is telling Manny, in effect: "Munya! Nunya!" Richard was the best character on that show.
Trev0r98 nice observation but I don't think Richard minded Manny asking about his face, since he respectfully acknowledged it. It was one of several wisecracks that Richard would make. I love that some of the funny lines are from Richard, and they are all one liners lol
It was a sensitive topic for Harrow but he knew that Jimmy needed to make a good impression for the sake of business, so he decided to turn his disfigurement into a self deprecating joke.
William Forsythe; I remember him more as a side actor in some cheesy stuff, lowbrow comedy, action; but he really shows his acting chops in this character. He’s great.
Jimmy smelled the "cookin" being the opportunity...and he did indeed get "hungry" resembling his greed which lead to a failed attempt at stiffing Manny.
Kevin McRae A good cook knows not to wait till people get hungry to start cooking. You start when they are NOT hungry, have plenty of time to cook w/o pressure, and the aroma when done will MAKE them hungry. Leading them by their noses ...
And Nucky had to pick Manny over Jimmy as a more loyal long term ally. Didn't see Harrow's revenge coming. Yet that was brought on because he couldn't let angela's memory fade without justice
michoppy183 that's William Forsythe. .. he's actually in alot of great movies.. very underrated actor... never been a leading man but very phenomenal character actor
Leelan Lusero He’s a really cool guy as well. I work in a hotel that gets quite a bit of celebrities staying. William is one of the coolest most down to earth actors I’ve met.
That's a valid point. And if we're going by actual history, Waxey Gordon pretty much ran Philly for a time. He was basically Arnold Rothstein's representation in Philly as that's where the liquor came in for a time.
I think the reason why Nucky didn't seem to mind that Manny killed Angela was because Jimmy basically killed her when he fucked over Manny. When I rewatched this season, I see this scene in a different way. First it seems like a friendly meeting between Manny and Jimmy, but the second time, you realized Jimmy doomed Angela. And every scene with Angela, you see a dead woman. Quite sad.
ISUPK KENTUCKY those are rules made up by Hollywood to romanticize and glorify the mob but in real life there were none, sure they had some guidelines and agreements to keep things civil to a degree, but anyone and anything was fair game. Families, relatives and friends were always getting killed because they were close or related to someone who was involved in this kind of business.
ISUPK KENTUCKY Jimmy set his family up to be touched when he started conducting meetings out of his home. It's why Remus commented on it, when they meet. Not only is it unprofessional, but it's flat out dangerous in that line of work. All it takes is one snitch (Mickey) to give up information, and he had good reason, when Jimmy got too bigheaded by throwing Doyle off the ledge infront of Manny. Even though, Capone or Luciano were probably gonna whack him eventually. Jimmy didn't have the makings of a Boss. He knew how to enforce, but was sloppy at running an operation. Soured what could've been a good alliance with Philly, over a 5K advance. Had Jimmy honored his word, Manny would've been out of town muscle like Frankie Yale to Capone.
sparkydeltorro Indeed. Jimmy was an exceptional thug, but the finer points of being a 'boss' such as Nucky - Jimmy was more or less way in over his head.
IMO, Boardwalk Empire was the best all around show ever. "The wire " is a close 2nd but, BWE has an unbelievable amount of set design, wardrobe, and period auto mobiles that was an Herculean effort to get just right.
@Northern Wolf exactly, but it didn't help that Nucky treated him like shit when he got back from war, and actually was mad a Jimmy for even going to war. He was fucked either way trying to please Nucky
Of course he was mad, he raised Jimmy basically, and set him up for political success, meanwhile James dumbass is off at college having sex with his mom and beating up professors. He volunteered for the war, he wasn't some victim of the draft. He threw everything away Nucky built between the two.
Manny the Jew knew just what to do when the hit-men came a calling he stuck a knife in his head, left him for dead and went to the beach in the morning he killed the wife of the man who tried to take his life and shot her lover fair he didn't intend to kill her dear friend but her husband was no longer there.
MAnnaconduit1 then Harrow like a sparrow struck a bullet to manny's marrow. While his wife screamed and hallowed. Mannys face forever hollow. Whoa onto the man that crosses the tin man harrow
The point was to show that Jimmy was not an effective leader, he was a soldier, but only knew how to act like a soldier not a boss like Nucky or Rothstein.
I literally just alternate between Boardwalk, sopranos, and the wire clips
Edit: after a year I see many of us are on this journey. Welcome brothers.
i do the EXACT same thing but i include Breaking Bad/better call saul
@@Bardamu3000 i do bardacow!
Me for 3 years
@@zinozee8929 ha ha it's great!!!
@@zinozee8929same brother
Manny entered the deal in good faith and kept his end of the bargain. Jimmy's incompetence from Day 1 messed everything up.
I've always wondered if it was a death wish of sorts. He went completely out of his way to fuck this deal up. Yikes.
@@CronoXpono Probably. And his wife and that other woman paid the price.
This is why I wasn't upset when he died. He couldn't handle the simplest things as a boss, let alone the larger stuff. The show made him pay for it. Oh well.
Yea Manny was even patient with him. And Manny made it crystal clear he's not the kind of guy you fuck over. It was just dumb, even if it was a death wish he got his wife killed over it and I'm sure he never wanted that.
Contrived writing to fire an annoying actor.
Jimmy is almost unconsciously unresponsive to threats, challenges, and whimsies posed to him by the characters with whom he is confronted. That is an individual that has bore witness to such atrocities that he is no longer effected by trivialities. War will do that.
Yep.
It's funny cause later Manny manages to intimidate him into slicing the guy's throat.
It wasn’t intimidation that he did that. Nobody could intimidate him. He just would get tired of hearing something or didn’t want to keep arguing about something he would do it. It being slice throat or try to have Nucky killed. He was scared of no one. Plus slicing his throat instead of shooting like manny prob expected showed what level jimmy was on as a bad ass.
Allen Iverson I think that scene had more to do with Jimmy’s inability to navigate obstacles within his business. He made poor business decisions and was inexperienced with power plays and positioning at the top. Jimmy was an effective soldier he wasn’t a very good politician. That’s why at the veterans memorial opening Jimmy came up to Nucky and said “you don’t think I know how to play this game?” And Nucky says to Jimmy “I don’t even think you know the rules” it all ended up being true unfortunately
@@GlennShook Nah, towards the end Jimmy was getting sloppy. Manny was a pretty imposing character as well. He would've killed him and Jimmy knew it.
It's sad because Manny actually liked Jimmy
Jimmy played him for a fool
@@jaygasper4853 it was self-destructive
Why? Because he knows his first name? He's playing him dog. This shots chess it ain't checkers!
@@johnh6065 it’s only a tv show so it’s neither chess nor chequers
Right
Never intentionally make enemies with people who like you
Should've taken Manny seriously. Manny was very patient. Jimmy just couldn't be bothered to give him what he was owed. He got cocky, and two innocent women died because of it.
it was a fuckin lousy 5g. but they had to write jimmy off because no one wanted to work with him
Death Rager 5K back then is roughly 70K now. It's a lot of money to give to a stranger.
@@mr.poopybutthole2912 Alot if money in general
No such thing as an innocent woman
@@deathrager2404 Yes, Michael Pitt was hard to work with, however, storywise, i think was also the feeling that Manny gave to jimmy, like a father authority figure. As we all know from jimmy's upbringing, that never set in well with him. For starter's his relationship with the commodore, or the reunion with the elders at the mansion when he got hit by one of them for not taking things seriously, ending in a reckless retaliation. As @Brendissimo points out, Manny's patience was strong, specially towards jimmy because, eventho the meeting was a success and he saw in jimmy a man on the come and saw him as a kid that could learn, he knew business was business, 5k or 500k didn't matter. By the time Jimmy pushed doyle off the second floor at babbette's, he knew jimmy didn't have what it takes to keep his affairs in order, or learn by that matter.
And the award for worst decision ever made by a gangster - Jimmy for trying to stiff Manny Horvitz
Michael P the load for him got destroyed by Nucky and he didn’t want to pay him back
Actually it was lucky luc that owed manny and jimmy just said he would cover it for him. Then yes never did but that’s just cause he didn’t like manny.
@@GlennShook Jimmy made the deal,he pissed on nucky at this point. He wanted to be top dog and couldnt even come up with five grand. Great killer,pathetic embarassing "leader material". If youre right,then that would mean nucky was friends with jimmy. They cut ties.
Well not really the failed attempt on nuckeys life is what killed Jimmy, Manny killed Jimmy's wife. But yea, Jimmy handled that very wrong. Money and power got to his head!!
@Michael P yes he meant to fuck Manny over!!His plan was to hire waxy Gordon's mug to kill Manny instead of paying him the 5 Gran, that he owed Manny. But the hit was botched and Manny retaliated killing JIMMY'S wife on accident.
William Forsythe rocked it with this character.
+smoothcriminal28 yea this suited him really good
but he is a great actor overall
+smoothcriminal28 Agreed. He totally nailed his part. But I think that was a requirement of ALL the actors on Boardwalk Empire. NOBODY disappoints Marty Scorsese.
+mysterytrain3 I'd only seen him playing the same guy in a bunch of action flicks. Didn't know he had mad skills.
83rdox he wasn't in Goodfellas.
Lord Ruben Rabitt lol
You can tell Manny is genuinely worried about who he went into business with as soon as Jimmy said the cream sickle joke. There’s a shift in his eyes
I mean you can't blame him
It was a pretty lame comeback joke
I think he’s more surprised that Jimmy laughed off his threat. Not worried, but he turned off his pleasant persona because he saw this is a man he can’t pressure.
Jimmy laughed at threats and the idea of death after surviving the trenches in ww1 which is why he never took it serios.
@@LordJagd This is the right take, he was taken aback by this baby-faced kid not being phased by his threat.
Jimmy was playing to the baby joke.
Nicely done scene. William Forsythe's accent is perfect. The dialogue flows smoothly and the story clicks along. One of the things I liked about Boardwalk Empire is that even the less dramatic scenes were complete, polished and enjoyable to watch. I miss this show. One of the best I've ever seen on "the small screen".
One of my favorite scenes in the series!! I Now eat liver!! LOL
I really like this scene. It was charming and some nice dialogue. Manny and Jimmy had chemistry and I thought nice connection. It's so disappointing how things just went badly after this among all of them
I blame Jimmy. You can't treat a man like Manny Horvitz like that and not expect consequences. He started off being respectful and then.........ah well.
freddybeer I know😔 I didn't understand why but after reading other comments, I guess Jimmy didn't have the money to pay him back and he certainly didn't have the booze.
He should have gone to see him, explained. It would have shown respect. To ignore him, hoping he would go away, utterly foolhardy! Meh, hey that's the script that was written, eh? Just showed that Jimmy didn't have what it took to be a boss. Quote Tony Soprano : 'Those that want respect, give respect.'
Mickey Doyles laugh kills me every time.
Would've been a good Joker.
It annoys the shit outta me. But to each their own. I respect the actors skill.
@@Tkieron I think that was the general point they were aiming for. Like an irritation of some sort. Like his character.
Remember him from 'Payback'?
It usually annoys me, but this one did make me laugh
After Jimmy left, Steven Seagal came in and asked why he did Bobby Lopo. 😂
Idk why Jimmy wouldnt just give this guy what he paid for. Thinking he was invincible led to his downfall.
That, and he didn't really care what he lived or died. It was made pretty clear that he considered himself dead man ever since the war anyway.
Or at least, Jimmy Darmody the Boy was dead, and Jimmy Darmody the Gangster would either have it all or die trying.
@@stevensonbak Well fucking Manny over got his wife killed too and he never wanted that, he loved her. She was also the mother of his son, and thanks to him getting himself and his wife killed his son grew up without parents and with nothing to live for but revenge on Nucky.
i know right
the thing that makes this series so great is there isn't a weak link - every actor portraying the characters are SO good.
i couldnt agree more maan... it was perfect. i just seems like is not acting. i just look real.
@@tigermaximus8003 👍👍
"First in his class at eastern state...Penitentiary. Im kidding herman only did county time" lol one of the best lines.
TheSealOfTheRose Probably not smart of Manny to belittle him in front of strangers, you can tell Herman doesn't like it. No wonder he went behind his back with Waxy.
I didn't notice until this time Herman rolled his eyes as he said it.
Fun fact- Eastern State Penitentiary is still standing in Philadelphia, though it only functions as a museum (and a haunted house come Halloween). Al Capone was sent there, and his cell is restored to his original specifications. Seen in this photo, it's clearly a cut above what the rest of the prison's population had to deal with- upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Al_Capone%27s_Cell_In_Eastern_State_Penitentiary.jpg
@John Nichols Ha, that's awesome. If it has "chippendale" style drawer pulls, it was likely constructed in Pennsylvania. We had something similar when I was growing up. We always called it the "secretary". I'm sure that piece is worth something, not to mention weighs a ton lol.
Lol 😃😃😃👍
3:00--That's an "I wasn't joking, son" look if I've ever seen one.
I liked the creamsicle joke too though. Like I don't have anyone in my ice box because nobody dares fuck with me.
@@JGunit I think this was his way of continuing the act of being just a baby, while also letting him know that the comment didn't mean shit to him. If I were Manny I would have seen it as a disrespectful return and cancelled the deal.
@Brutus Tan I think that is how Manny took it based on how it played out. But had he took it how I took it then he would have avoided an assassination attempt, and a whole lot of drama.
It was his way of saying he's not going to fuck him over...bringing light to the situation by making a joke
I can't believe those guys left liver & onions on the table like that. I would have stuck around for dinner 🤣🤣
"I just got creamsicles in mine" - completely unfased with the threat lol.
Paul Sparks' laugh throughout this show is legendary. Love this show, best show of all time next to The Wire.
"I just got creamsicles in mine."
*NnghEhEHEHue*😂
Perfect spelling on the laugh
change ya pic
Almost sound a bit Peter Griffin'ish😂
William Forsythe is an amazing actor, I don't know why he isn't cast in more serious movies.
Chris - Have a look at Mr Forsythe's CV on IMDB. He's worked with EVERYONE on EVERYTHING! The man has made THOUSANDS of films!
"Has anyone seen Ritchie?"
Forsythe is right in character. Friendly and yet menacing.
'I like you, boycheik, nice warm feeling...'
As he loudly removes the burrs from his knife.
Man. The writing in this show is just top-notch. Love how smoothly the dialogue flows.
You'd know all about writing flow wouldn't you?
"I put my nose where it didn't belong." LMAO
+Leon Delvechio Ramirez RIchard's quote there was kind of a graceful - and humorous - double-edged sword: 1. It's self-effacing and 2. It's kind of a gracious, but back-handed admonition to Manny to mind his own business about how his face got deformed. Richard is telling Manny, in effect: "Munya! Nunya!"
Richard was the best character on that show.
Trev0r98 nice observation but I don't think Richard minded Manny asking about his face, since he respectfully acknowledged it. It was one of several wisecracks that Richard would make. I love that some of the funny lines are from Richard, and they are all one liners lol
Leon Delvechio Ramirez i love. That line man!;) jaja
Very unforgivable and not kosher like the knife he uses to cut through a human skull.
It was a sensitive topic for Harrow but he knew that Jimmy needed to make a good impression for the sake of business, so he decided to turn his disfigurement into a self deprecating joke.
William Forsythe; I remember him more as a side actor in some cheesy stuff, lowbrow comedy, action; but he really shows his acting chops in this character. He’s great.
Have you ever seen Gotti - the one with A. Assante not that Travolta's trainwreck ? He played Sammy Gravano, and I thought he was great in that role.
@@Danko_Sekulic he was so damn good in that movie. Great talent
Don't forget the revival of THE UNTOUCHABLES on broadcast TV back in the 90's. He played Al Capone!
@@JoseMorales-lw5nt once upon a time in America too
Been in several classics is well
Manny was a great character. I would have liked to see him last a little longer.
Ehh you're gonna smell the cookin, and you're gonna get hungry
Best host ever!
just watching i get hungry.
they didn't take the meat though?
Jimmy smelled the "cookin" being the opportunity...and he did indeed get "hungry" resembling his greed which lead to a failed attempt at stiffing Manny.
I want some fucking liver and onions now.
its hella good wit gravy & rice
john brown I'd go with boiled potatoes over the rice !
Im sorry that you got offeded. you can come out of the closet now its okay rice boy :)
I'll take mine w/ a big plate of white rice.
Liver and onions in a brandy cream sauce and fresh parsley with a crusty baguette! Now I'm F×
Manny has a great voice
You disgust me. How dare you? Feported for abuse you sick fucking pig.
@@peenerbob8020 That was funny.
@@peenerbob8020 What triggered you?
William Forsythe is one of the most underrated character actors who ever lived. The man can literally play anything, and do it brilliantly.
Anybody seen Richie!?!?? Anybody know why Richie did Bobby Lupo?
Raising Arizona
@@rally_chronicles I'm still trying to find that out. Poor Lupo
@@el34glo59 I'm a keep coming back until somebody remembers seeing Ricci
@@rally_chronicles"Fuck you" lol me and my friend laugh at that all the time
You’re gonna smell the cookin and you’re gonna get hungry
Kevin McRae I love that line. Sounds like every old school grandparent.
Kevin McRae
A good cook knows not to wait till people get hungry to start cooking. You start when they are NOT hungry, have plenty of time to cook w/o pressure, and the aroma when done will MAKE them hungry. Leading them by their noses ...
And Nucky had to pick Manny over Jimmy as a more loyal long term ally. Didn't see Harrow's revenge coming. Yet that was brought on because he couldn't let angela's memory fade without justice
Harrow had no fear, loved his and Jimmy’s characters so much.
Forsythe is a master of his craft.
the dude who plays Manny Horvitz is the cop from Blue Streak. the one with the mustache. Mind Blown
michoppy183 that's William Forsythe. .. he's actually in alot of great movies.. very underrated actor... never been a leading man but very phenomenal character actor
Leelan Lusero He’s a really cool guy as well. I work in a hotel that gets quite a bit of celebrities staying. William is one of the coolest most down to earth actors I’ve met.
He was hilarious in that movie too!
@@vcdep991 hes equally as funny as the insecure cop in Deuce Bigelow as well lol
@@patgogan7324 Also, one of the jailbirds in Raising Arizona, "Really great breakfast cereal flakes Mrs. McDonough."
"I stuck my nose where it didn't belong." lol
Jimmy literally sealed his fate with that handshake.
Everybody in this scene besides the cook ends up being killed.
Herman actually died had his throat slit
I'm talking about the guy at 1:23.
you don't know about the cook, maybe he died off screen like Rothstein
Poor Avram he was killed when a piano landed on him
Science_Guy1988 just shows it pays to make an honest living!!
One of my favorite scenes in the series. So perfect.
Man did this show have some great acting in it and this is a prime example.
This is such a great scene, Forsythe is legendary
it was such a simple deal that jimmy fucked up.
we got money. you got liquor. DONE DEAL.
sghunter wtf are you doing here, Gyp?
This scene was so well done , its almost like a hidden camera was there
Jimmy was the POS, you always honor your deal.
how good is William Forsythe!!! he nails it each and every time!!!
Favourite scene in the show. Unbelievable performance by Bill coupled with fantastic writing.
William Forsythe is one of the most versatile actors I've ever seen.
Yea he also did an excellent job in ‘The Devils Rejects’ as sheriff Wydell.
And in the substitute!!
Mickey Doyle's laugh is hilarious 🤣
In the end, Richard gave Manny a similar looking face O_#
BronzNazareth he slapped the corn live o to him
That's a valid point. And if we're going by actual history, Waxey Gordon pretty much ran Philly for a time. He was basically Arnold Rothstein's representation in Philly as that's where the liquor came in for a time.
I think the reason why Nucky didn't seem to mind that Manny killed Angela was because Jimmy basically killed her when he fucked over Manny. When I rewatched this season, I see this scene in a different way. First it seems like a friendly meeting between Manny and Jimmy, but the second time, you realized Jimmy doomed Angela. And every scene with Angela, you see a dead woman. Quite sad.
LeaveMeAloneTH-cam but part of the rules were that you dont fuck with peoples family, only when the jewish man comes in do the rules go to shit
ISUPK KENTUCKY those are rules made up by Hollywood to romanticize and glorify the mob but in real life there were none, sure they had some guidelines and agreements to keep things civil to a degree, but anyone and anything was fair game. Families, relatives and friends were always getting killed because they were close or related to someone who was involved in this kind of business.
Joe's cannoli meh never really heard of direct family being killed
ISUPK KENTUCKY
Jimmy set his family up to be touched when he started conducting meetings out of his home.
It's why Remus commented on it, when they meet. Not only is it unprofessional, but it's flat out dangerous in that line of work.
All it takes is one snitch (Mickey) to give up information, and he had good reason, when Jimmy got too bigheaded by throwing Doyle off the ledge infront of Manny.
Even though, Capone or Luciano were probably gonna whack him eventually. Jimmy didn't have the makings of a Boss. He knew how to enforce, but was sloppy at running an operation. Soured what could've been a good alliance with Philly, over a 5K advance. Had Jimmy honored his word, Manny would've been out of town muscle like Frankie Yale to Capone.
@La Onda It is? Nice! I mean horrible if you die but nice to know...
Manny is such a badass dude, one of my favorite in whole show :D
RolandS m
Doesnt take much balls to kill a woman or two.
@@johnmurdoch3083 He didn't just kill women though, did he?
@@jackieboy3968 no. Fair enough
@@johnmurdoch3083 Exactly!
Some people are better at being number twos… - Silvio Dante
This scene is too smooth, love it.
From now on, whenever I see a disabled person I just turn to their carer, point at them and say "This man looks interesting"
Sure you do cupcake, sure you do.
What an amazing character Jimmy darmondy was, great character played by a great actor
How did Jimmy fuck this up so much...
sparkydeltorro Indeed.
Jimmy was an exceptional thug, but the finer points of being a 'boss' such as Nucky - Jimmy was more or less way in over his head.
sparkydeltorro Jimmy was more or less pushed to make his bid for control of AC, he should've never tried to grasp for the reins.
Because he really was a child. Rothstein saw it; Manny saw it; Nucky saw it.
He was a good soldier, boss not so much.
He should have stayed on good term with Nucky or stayed in Chicago with Torreo and Capone.
Herman and a lot of those other gangsters back then had such cool voices.
LMAO after I seen this episode I started calling pretty much every guy I know (friends/co-workers) "boychiek" LOL
Haha my parents do the same thing
Dialogue in this show is terrific. Talented writing.
*This is Darmody*
"Christ, he's just a baby" xD
Dead at 23 😭
Yes, and still he was a traumatized war veteran.
Horwitz would not have said Christ...lol. it was more or a Yiddish Ach...
Manny Horvitz tone and voice are amazing.
mr harrow sure will be in touch lol
Michael Maldonado trust me to slap that corn liveO
actor did a great job! Manny is friendly yet intimidating
Ed Blumquist , Manny Horvitz - the friendly butchers who are low-key dangerous
Great reference
They even have the same hairstyle.
@@TheFiresloth I didn’t see it at first but Yh that’s true
The writers of this show were too good honestly. None of the dialogue ever seems forced, it just flows so naturally. The casting was superb.
IMO, Boardwalk Empire was the best all around show ever. "The wire " is a close 2nd but, BWE has an unbelievable amount of set design, wardrobe, and period auto mobiles that was an Herculean effort to get just right.
If you like a “no PC” type of show the sopranos is worth watching too
I can't believe they left the liver and onions! That looked delicious!!!!!
I just realized that Manny calls Mickey Doyle a goniff which means a thief, dishonest person or scoundrel.
Freaking love William Forsythe!
I love the beginning where Jimmy says.. You talked to him about the cash up front.
"I just got creamsicles in mine." Probably a lie: Jimmy is so cool ice cream wouldn't melt in his mouth.
Mickey Doyle is the best character
Never understood Jimmy blowing it all up with Manny. Ended up costing him everything.
3:02: “Mr Harrow will be in touch”
Yes... yes he certainly will
Forsythe is a great actor btw
William Forsythe was badass as Capone back in the old TV series "The Untouchables"
Supremely well acted, awesome dialogue, just immense!!!
Jimmy wanted all the power without putting in the work
@Northern Wolf exactly, but it didn't help that Nucky treated him like shit when he got back from war, and actually was mad a Jimmy for even going to war. He was fucked either way trying to please Nucky
Of course he was mad, he raised Jimmy basically, and set him up for political success, meanwhile James dumbass is off at college having sex with his mom and beating up professors. He volunteered for the war, he wasn't some victim of the draft. He threw everything away Nucky built between the two.
Avram was a great character, wish we saw more of him
Manny gives me chills!
it was such a nice scene, I'm really glad everything worked out for everyone in the end.
i just love how Manny is jovial and laughing the whole way through until he threatens Jimmy. after that he is stone faced and serious.
I’ve always been in love with this time period. And this show scratches that itch so gooood ❤
Manny is like if a giant bear became a man
I loved Manny's character. He was legit af.
I genuinely liked Manny as a character, I was pissed they killed him off and let characters like Gyp Rosetti exist longer.
Manny wouldn't have been dead if he didn't kill Jimmy's wife, that was a dark twist from him ngl
Now they have that cooked liver and onions and no one to eat it.
The wire, sopranos and this show had such great acting. Superb series
Manny the Jew
knew just what to do
when the hit-men came a calling
he stuck a knife in his head, left him for dead
and went to the beach in the morning
he killed the wife of the man who tried to take his life
and shot her lover fair
he didn't intend to kill her dear friend
but her husband was no longer there.
MAnnaconduit1 then Harrow like a sparrow struck a bullet to manny's marrow.
While his wife screamed and hallowed.
Mannys face forever hollow.
Whoa onto the man that crosses the tin man harrow
its no bad, but thats no rap its poetry.
@Trinder3467 its not rap it a limerick
@Trinder3467 Do not compare poetry to rap. Maybe open a book too.
I never understood why Jimmy ripped Manny off. It's not like he coundn't afford it or it would even effect his money.
Stupid plot device to kill of Pitts character having Nucky choose Manny over Jimmy.
He didn't screw Manny over in the beginning, his warehouse blew up.
The point was to show that Jimmy was not an effective leader, he was a soldier, but only knew how to act like a soldier not a boss like Nucky or Rothstein.
Because he was a moron
“But between u and me my shine box is filled with shoes that look like fucking mirrors”
this show had so many great characters
Avram is the only man here who doesnt get violently murdered in the end
What u mean?? The only one is maybe the cook
@@viciazzo avram is the cook
@@caseylayton4898 😁😵
He tried to scare Jimmy and Jimmy didn't even bat an eye. So awesome.
Micky Dolye is actually a Ralph Mouth impersonation from Happy Days.
So many awesome characters in this show!
02:58 that laugh
Such an amazing actor. He should've been more popular
Avram was my favorite character, I wish they did more with him.
Eastern State is scary old place...it’s open for tours.