I remember alot from the last years open at austin. Simons amazing putter shot at hole 1. Eagle splitting a dudes head open. Paul McBeth on one of the wooded holes throwing towards the gallery outside of the woods to put it in circle. It was a good tournament
Another thing I remember about the Open at ATX last year…. Camera dude getting Eagle’s granade to the head. I was keeping score on the card behind that and had to stand by where he got hit, his blood was right next to me.
What about 12ft round concrete tee pads? I mostly agree with the pavers except when they're put in lazy and quickly settle super janky. Genuinely curious about your opinion.
Conrete tee pads are good if they are new. When they get older the surface becomes smooth and after that, they are slippery. And concrete pads are heavy. Tough to move if tee place is changed. Solid wood or other material teepads can be carried manually. I don't like round teepads and don't see any benefit of them being round. Front of the teepad is quite narrow and and width-length ratio is too wide in the middle. Unnecessary. I would say something like 5 ft X 12 ft would be better. 12 ft diameter teepad is massive in width and there are many places that tee area doesn't have that kind of space. I don't like too wide teepads anyway. In pro tour players are good enough to shape shots instead of having extra wide teepad so that they get easier shot shapes. Concrete teepads with a good turf is good. Solid underneath and doesn't give in at all. Turf needs to be maintained though. I don't know if PDGA doesn't know how to maintain those or they don't want to do it. Wet and slippery teepad = put sand on it Muddy and wet and slippery = There are at least two efficient ways to clean the mud off. Brushing doesn't help. It takes 10-30 minutes per turf pad to clean most of the mud so that they are safe to throw. My recommendation is that PDGA buys portable teepads or rents those. At least one tournament in Finland uses portable teepads. Those are very good.
Since we're talking about inconsistencies in event management, I want to propose a change in baskets. I would like to see a standardization of basket design and placement. Every manufacturer should use the same blueprint and material specs. (e.g. chain weight & chain finish). Also, every basket should be exactly the same height off the ground. Ball golf has exactly the same hole design on every course. How would basketball be played if every basket has a different diameter and be placed at varying heights off the floor. The Austin course baskets seem to have higher walls and stiffer chains. This has caused some freaky spit-outs.
Been saying this for thirty years. Tee pads should never decide how the hole is played from a stance standpoint. But instead provide a fair teeing surface for all competitors.
Still can’t believe I haven’t seen Innova release a commemorative Destroyer for the Austin win stamped ‘The Ohn Ranger’!. Seriously, Texas/Historical, come on innova! -props to the ‘2 Hot Geese’ broadcast for throwing that name out there :)
It was so annoying to hear Philo and Ian not even consider that NA had the chance to win. Kyle was a few holes a head of Nikklas so Nikklas had plenty of time to catch him, even with the shortened round. The DGPT does need to figure out a way to have better teepads at these courses. I understand its a challenge at the golf courses and they may be restricted as to what they can do.
I say use for courses needing temporary at least like Waco in design maybe with lower 4 inch no heigh drop as could be done using 2x4 or 2x_ using flat design and longer like 8--10 feet for underside runners , being as big as one can usually find, Force the using rubber pad on top or indoor /outdoor rubber backed ribbed carpet. Please begin allowing players to use rules on relief on Disc Golf Pro Tour of going to the side when pads are not usable as a small rules like this are different from all other events including non Pro Tour Majors. Using cheap plastic turf is a major issue as pads can get slick just by simple use over a 3 day tournament and pros practice and most other turf is too tall for disc golf or is a slightly longer version of cheap crap used for some traditional stick & ball golf tees.
This is a ridiculous take. They are pros and should be able to deal with it. Temp tees allow the pro tour to play at some outstanding venues that they wouldn’t otherwise able to afford if they had to be able to place perm pads.
There are temporary teepads for rent at least in Finland and I am pretty sure those are in the USA as well. Those are solid teepads that don't give in at all. So temporary teepads are not really a problem, it is the bad quality of those or just putting a turf on the ground. That doesn't work either unless the ground is very solid and smooth.
Tee pads and baskets need to be regulated and all the same ... I've been playing for 20 years now and honestly nothing irks me more than elevated baskets .... Name ANY OTHER SPORT that does anything like that ... Hoops height change ? Goalposts different size ? Cup on the golf course a different size ??? It's stupid and gimmicky and makes our sport look like a circus game , not a legit professional sport ... Watching pro events with makeshift tee pads , different surfaces , different sizes ... It's embarrassing and bush league imo.... Most probably don't agree but ooo well
Hmm.... Major League baseball. Fields are not the same size. NASCAR, tracks are not the same. This is disc golf, it isn't other sports. How about we make every single hole a 300 ft straight fairway with no obstacles and a basket right in the center? Would that be better? Variety is what makes it interesting. No certainly I don't think every basket should be elevated, but the occasional elevated basket keeps it challenging.
I agree 1000% with everything you said. You want big time money, sponsors, TV money and coverage? Standardize the damn game. Hanging and elevated baskets are fucking dumb. The baskets are designed to catch discs from straight on, not from below.
Also players should never be responsible for making penalty calls against their opponents. That is complete nonsense for a professional sport with money on the line. What's to stop a couple buddy buddy card mates from screwing the "odd man out," if they wanted to? That's not professional. That's playground pickup basketball calling yr own fouls bush league bullshit.
I'm fine with raised baskets, but they need to be properly raised. Not this 2-3 inches higher BS that's on USWDGC. Normal height baskets need to have one height only. Raised baskets need to have a minimum and maximum height. Minimum preferably at least twice the height if regular baskets.
Friends don't let friends install turf teepads. They are a false economy: using a lot of labour to install and get right, and then wearing out quickly. And you can only rotate the turf once, before it has to be dumped - and turf is made from plastic! Concrete teepads suck, because they can't be shifted. Take it from someone who has designed and installed many courses over the decades: properly built paved teepads are the best possible solution, because pavers can be moved as many times as needed, without anything except labour. And it's important to remember that a DGC is either evolving, or dying!
Properly made Concrete can work if a person put rebar inside or shifting and can use a rubber oversized pad if need be, on top o old pad where edges are staked into ground with oversized L shape stakes if pad gets too slick.
Turf is my favorite. Turf needs to be right for the purpose though. In mud and rain also concrete is slippery. Turf can be cleaned. My criticism towards PDGA is that they don't take the mud off between rounds. Players can prevent the slippery by throwing 1-2 ft behind the front of the bad. For some reason almost everyone throws from the front of it.
Proper turf last years before it needs to be replaced if it just is maintained attleast somehow and you can get it free from old football fields.(the sport you actually use feets for kicking ball).
@@terot8341 Yes and Cheap turf is not really a useable turf for most sports. Yes, you can get turf from Soccer or some similar fields like Baseball for cheap but even then field is often too tall for a Disc golf use, about only stuff worth using is lower and similar to higher end Traditional Ball and Stick Golf Course tees using Synthetic on pars of tee or on high end driving ranges because of how much time in a season would be waisted going and fixing tee off areas during a season.
I remember alot from the last years open at austin. Simons amazing putter shot at hole 1. Eagle splitting a dudes head open. Paul McBeth on one of the wooded holes throwing towards the gallery outside of the woods to put it in circle. It was a good tournament
Good coverage again. Good luck on the road
Another thing I remember about the Open at ATX last year…. Camera dude getting Eagle’s granade to the head. I was keeping score on the card behind that and had to stand by where he got hit, his blood was right next to me.
What about 12ft round concrete tee pads? I mostly agree with the pavers except when they're put in lazy and quickly settle super janky.
Genuinely curious about your opinion.
Conrete tee pads are good if they are new. When they get older the surface becomes smooth and after that, they are slippery.
And concrete pads are heavy. Tough to move if tee place is changed. Solid wood or other material teepads can be carried manually.
I don't like round teepads and don't see any benefit of them being round. Front of the teepad is quite narrow and and width-length ratio is too wide in the middle. Unnecessary. I would say something like 5 ft X 12 ft would be better. 12 ft diameter teepad is massive in width and there are many places that tee area doesn't have that kind of space. I don't like too wide teepads anyway. In pro tour players are good enough to shape shots instead of having extra wide teepad so that they get easier shot shapes.
Concrete teepads with a good turf is good. Solid underneath and doesn't give in at all. Turf needs to be maintained though. I don't know if PDGA doesn't know how to maintain those or they don't want to do it.
Wet and slippery teepad = put sand on it
Muddy and wet and slippery = There are at least two efficient ways to clean the mud off. Brushing doesn't help. It takes 10-30 minutes per turf pad to clean most of the mud so that they are safe to throw.
My recommendation is that PDGA buys portable teepads or rents those. At least one tournament in Finland uses portable teepads. Those are very good.
I agree with your tee pad comments. There must be some sort of permanent tee pad in order to have tournament.
Since we're talking about inconsistencies in event management, I want to propose a change in baskets. I would like to see a standardization of basket design and placement. Every manufacturer should use the same blueprint and material specs. (e.g. chain weight & chain finish). Also, every basket should be exactly the same height off the ground. Ball golf has exactly the same hole design on every course. How would basketball be played if every basket has a different diameter and be placed at varying heights off the floor. The Austin course baskets seem to have higher walls and stiffer chains. This has caused some freaky spit-outs.
Been saying this for thirty years. Tee pads should never decide how the hole is played from a stance standpoint. But instead provide a fair teeing surface for all competitors.
Used to be players played in rain Because not every stop used to have a temporary tee pad course as one of single course options.
Still can’t believe I haven’t seen Innova release a commemorative Destroyer for the Austin win stamped ‘The Ohn Ranger’!. Seriously, Texas/Historical, come on innova!
-props to the ‘2 Hot Geese’ broadcast for throwing that name out there :)
It was so annoying to hear Philo and Ian not even consider that NA had the chance to win. Kyle was a few holes a head of Nikklas so Nikklas had plenty of time to catch him, even with the shortened round.
The DGPT does need to figure out a way to have better teepads at these courses. I understand its a challenge at the golf courses and they may be restricted as to what they can do.
Good Shit
"Danergous?" Get some sleep, my dudes!
I say use for courses needing temporary at least like Waco in design maybe with lower 4 inch no heigh drop as could be done using 2x4 or 2x_ using flat design and longer like 8--10 feet for underside runners , being as big as one can usually find, Force the using rubber pad on top or indoor /outdoor rubber backed ribbed carpet. Please begin allowing players to use rules on relief on Disc Golf Pro Tour of going to the side when pads are not usable as a small rules like this are different from all other events including non Pro Tour Majors. Using cheap plastic turf is a major issue as pads can get slick just by simple use over a 3 day tournament and pros practice and most other turf is too tall for disc golf or is a slightly longer version of cheap crap used for some traditional stick & ball golf tees.
The PDGA is a joke! They don't even have a division strictly for women!
Maybe, just maybe lay off the weed!
It is a legal issue. They tried it last year, but got several law suits on them and in some states they can't legally ban them.
Ah would you spell correct the picture caption? It hurts my eyes.
Be very careful when you take away freedoms for safety.
Concrete pads are the way to go.
This is a ridiculous take. They are pros and should be able to deal with it. Temp tees allow the pro tour to play at some outstanding venues that they wouldn’t otherwise able to afford if they had to be able to place perm pads.
There are temporary teepads for rent at least in Finland and I am pretty sure those are in the USA as well. Those are solid teepads that don't give in at all. So temporary teepads are not really a problem, it is the bad quality of those or just putting a turf on the ground. That doesn't work either unless the ground is very solid and smooth.
We call Calvin “Vinny?”
Calvinny
Complaining about tee pads? How about a man playing in the USWDGC ???
That should be the topic…
You added a word to that JD lyric that isn't in there... that was unfortunate.
Tee pads and baskets need to be regulated and all the same ... I've been playing for 20 years now and honestly nothing irks me more than elevated baskets .... Name ANY OTHER SPORT that does anything like that ... Hoops height change ? Goalposts different size ? Cup on the golf course a different size ??? It's stupid and gimmicky and makes our sport look like a circus game , not a legit professional sport ... Watching pro events with makeshift tee pads , different surfaces , different sizes ... It's embarrassing and bush league imo.... Most probably don't agree but ooo well
Hmm.... Major League baseball. Fields are not the same size. NASCAR, tracks are not the same. This is disc golf, it isn't other sports. How about we make every single hole a 300 ft straight fairway with no obstacles and a basket right in the center? Would that be better? Variety is what makes it interesting. No certainly I don't think every basket should be elevated, but the occasional elevated basket keeps it challenging.
I agree. Rich people are full of bright ideas, but don’t think things through logically. Raised baskets are absolutely ridiculous.
I agree 1000% with everything you said. You want big time money, sponsors, TV money and coverage? Standardize the damn game. Hanging and elevated baskets are fucking dumb. The baskets are designed to catch discs from straight on, not from below.
Also players should never be responsible for making penalty calls against their opponents. That is complete nonsense for a professional sport with money on the line. What's to stop a couple buddy buddy card mates from screwing the "odd man out," if they wanted to? That's not professional. That's playground pickup basketball calling yr own fouls bush league bullshit.
I'm fine with raised baskets, but they need to be properly raised. Not this 2-3 inches higher BS that's on USWDGC. Normal height baskets need to have one height only. Raised baskets need to have a minimum and maximum height. Minimum preferably at least twice the height if regular baskets.
Boop
Friends don't let friends install turf teepads.
They are a false economy: using a lot of labour to install and get right, and then wearing out quickly. And you can only rotate the turf once, before it has to be dumped - and turf is made from plastic! Concrete teepads suck, because they can't be shifted.
Take it from someone who has designed and installed many courses over the decades: properly built paved teepads are the best possible solution, because pavers can be moved as many times as needed, without anything except labour.
And it's important to remember that a DGC is either evolving, or dying!
Properly made Concrete can work if a person put rebar inside or shifting and can use a rubber oversized pad if need be, on top o old pad where edges are staked into ground with oversized L shape stakes if pad gets too slick.
I’m thinking that the ball golf course insists on the temp teepads
Turf is my favorite. Turf needs to be right for the purpose though. In mud and rain also concrete is slippery. Turf can be cleaned. My criticism towards PDGA is that they don't take the mud off between rounds.
Players can prevent the slippery by throwing 1-2 ft behind the front of the bad. For some reason almost everyone throws from the front of it.
Proper turf last years before it needs to be replaced if it just is maintained attleast somehow and you can get it free from old football fields.(the sport you actually use feets for kicking ball).
@@terot8341 Yes and Cheap turf is not really a useable turf for most sports. Yes, you can get turf from Soccer or some similar fields like Baseball for cheap but even then field is often too tall for a Disc golf use, about only stuff worth using is lower and similar to higher end Traditional Ball and Stick Golf Course tees using Synthetic on pars of tee or on high end driving ranges because of how much time in a season would be waisted going and fixing tee off areas during a season.
Why he gotta be short statured? The f is this writing
bro your title and actual content covered is click bait. not a good look for us disc golfers. i guess you can just ride the hype train for views.