REL Acoustics S/510 Subwoofer Overview
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S/510 takes REL’s compact-medium chassis concept to reference-like levels of performance and does so with style, power and incredible speed. It delivers incredible levels of all ‘round performance. S/510 allows those with less space, or when pairing with high end speakers that are slightly less robust to have a perfect dance partner when the S/812 is simply too much of a great thing.
For S/510, every aspect of the previous generation’s inner workings were examined without regard to its critical and customer-driven success. We turned a fresh eye to power requirements, driver improvements, and specialty filters, upgrading each-to extract all the extra performance possible. All this alongside the cabinet refinements necessary for those upgrades to emerge cleanly. This latest S range is a triumphant development that has exceeded every expectation of our design team.
Our requirements were for far stronger deep bass output between 20-35 Hz, vastly improved theatre dynamics, and an even more open and spacious soundfield which benefits both music and film. We turned to our NextGen3 amplifier, tuned to 500 watts with substantial reserves of power, added a light film of carbon fibre to the rear of the driver to handle the extra power, and developed two new sets of custom filters to extract the utmost in brute force and spaciousness. Finally, we imbued S/510 with the ability to be stacked in 4- or 6-unit line arrays, just like our reference models.
S/510 required upgrades to its ContinuousCast™ Alloy Cone to allow it to survive its massive power upgrades. To permit its thin, aluminum cone to survive 500 watts and incredibly long stroke, we added an ultra-lightweight backing of pure carbon fibre strategically placed over portions of the rear surface of the cone. This produces two benefits; it strengthens and stiffens the cone and also eliminates reversion, wherein the backwave inside the cabinet is now prevented from interfering with the main launch of bass into the room. The result is more accurate and far louder deep bass.
Our uniquely tuned passive radiators use special suspensions, now with an additional 8mm of linear travel, to produce performance unlike conventional subwoofers. Our new SuperProgressive™ passive radiator produces extremely long travel allowing for very loud output while retaining the variable stiffness of its suspension. This allows it to act like a sealed box compact 12” design at low volumes and a high output 14” design at its limit.
At 500 watts the NextGen3 amplifier is borrowed from our former flagship model and produces huge reservoirs of power and current. The 20%+ increase in power (previous version was 400 watts) is needed to deliver the high output levels needed for modern theatre, as well as to produce the extremely deep bass in a high end 2-channel system. This increase in power is necessitated by our development on the musical front of an all-new circuit termed PerfectFilter™ that balance both frequency extremes.
PerfectFilter performs two seemingly disparate qualities; extending the strong, even response of the extreme low end of bass frequencies while simultaneously opening up air and delicacy in the middle and high frequencies of one’s system. Additionally, we applied customized PureTheatre™ filters to allow S/510 to keep up with modern theatre effects without breaking a sweat.
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Hi John. Thanks for creating such a beautiful product. I actually have a pair of S/3 SHO. I came from a single Strata III since 2005 and have never felt the need to upgrade. It was that good. But a pair of S/3 SHOs brought my system with Martin Logans to a whole new level. Fit and finish is a work of art. What I appreciate most about REL is low level late night listening. No matter how low I turn the system I can always tell the RELs are doing their thing. The cones are that light and fast.
Thank you Leti for continuing to support REL, and we are very glad to hear that you are enjoying the performance of your S/3 SHO subwoofers.
Absolute fantastic subwoofer, magic!
Thank you for the kind words Andreas!
Good presentation
Love the white version so much I've bought two of them for both front speakers. Now just a 3rd for the center HT channel ;-)
I wonder if REL could benefit from C-CAM material that Monitor Audio uses in its speakers. Could it be even lighter and more rigid than the material REL uses?
Awesome! I’m thinking of getting one of these to add to my stereo system. Would be nice if I could actually get to hear one first though before making that decision.😊
Most REL Authorized dealers have our subwoofers set up in their demo systems for the public to hear. Please use the Dealer Locator portal on our website for finding the nearest Authorized Dealer to you: rel.net/dealers/
P F That’s how I came to purchase my REL Strata III after a local store let me bring it home to try. I now have a pair of S/3 SHO. Still have the Strata III after having the amp repairs and will never let it go.
@@JoBiatch - That’s awesome. I did ended up buying a pair of the smaller subs- Don’t remember which ones because I never did get the chance to open them. Lost my damn job because of pandemic and had to move so right now all my s**t is in storage as I look for new place to live. I hope you’re enjoying them. Hope yo be enjoying mines soon.
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Great sub. Background music a bit loud though.
Thank you for the feedback, we can certainly take this into consideration for future videos.
Thx for this great introduction. I am currently looking for a sub for my audiophile setup (Ayon Goshawk speakers). How to decide which Type of sub will fit? Will the 510 be enough? Or the 812? Would kindly appreciate your opinion. Thx!
For a custom subwoofer pairing recommendation for your system, please write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to assist.
Currently using a pair of these with Marten Parker Duo speakers. Stunning 2 channel sound. Thinking about adding another pair and stacking them. Do you recommend anything under the rails to protect the lacquer finish of the top surface of the lower sub in the stack?
Also, what would a third pair stacked, in the future, add?
Thank you for reaching out. Adding additional S/510 subwoofers to your current stereo pair, to build a stacked line array setup, is an excellent choice for improving the sub-bass performance of your home audio system. The addition of the next pair of subwoofers (to form a 4-sub array) will offer improvements over a stereo pair, though the full performance potential of a line array is achieved once you add the third pair for a full 6-subwoofer array. More information about the benefits of stacked subwoofer line arrays can be found in the following article from our website: rel.net/blog/2019-12-13/system-thinking/taking-bass-to-new-heights-with-the-serie-s-line-array/
The bottoms of the feet/rails on the S/510 have felt pads, which is intended to protect the gloss finish on the lower units so that the top of the subwoofer's cabinet does not get scratched.
Most likely a great sub, looking to get one. In video saying handles polished for hours, are you serious, that is hard to believe
We put a lot of time into ensuring that the fit and finish of our subwoofers is as high of quality as their sound!
Hi John, hi everyone! I am desparately looking out for advice conc. my brand new S/510 sub to be connected to a BRYSTON 4B-SST/2: Should I connect the ground strip of my Blue Bass Speakon cable to one of the negative speaker binding posts OR not? In other words: is this amp a"fully balanced' one OR not? Sorry for this question, I jsut cannot find ia simple distinct answer . So many thanks in advance!
The Bryston 4B-SST2 is a Class A/B amplifier, and as a result you will be able to use our standard High Level connection method when setting up your S/510: th-cam.com/video/YIenhBQEtE4/w-d-xo.html
@@RELAcoustics So many thanks for this! - Now I can proceed and will enjoy my brand new REL sub. safeky
I took the plunge and bought the S510 and am having mixed fortunes. I seem to need to adjust the volume and crossover for each LP or CD. Sometimes the sound is sublime (Bach’s Organ music for example) but oftentimes there is a background grumble which drives me nuts.
Are you connected high level or low level? Also, if you need to make adjustments to the settings for different types of music it can often mean that the crossover is set too high.
@@RELAcoustics good afternoon. I’m connected high level using the cable supplied.
@@RELAcoustics I have the crossover and hi-lo at 9 and 10 clicks respectively. Your local dealer spent a couple of hours helping yesterday. We have moved the S510 from the corner position to the back wall and things have improved noticeably.
@@peterwicksteed5478 Thank you for providing this information, and we are glad to hear that you have been able to improve the performance of your S/510 by making these adjustments. If you have any additional questions, then feel free to let me know and I will be happy to assist.
HI JOHN HAVE A QUESTION, i need to know i have a room size (12x14) rel acoustics S/510 is that to big for this room size (single). OR maybe i should a pair T-9 SUBWOOFER? please help thanks!! ps this is for stereo use only!
Either a stereo pair of T/9i or a single S/510 can work well in this size of room, though the ideal choice of subwoofer for your system will depend on a few additional variables. At your earliest convenience, feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to provide a subwoofer pairing recommendation specific to your system.
Hi John. This is what I'm planning to buy but where can I buy the Bassline blue cable with stackable banana plug specific for NAIM amplifier? Thanks
Thank you for reaching out. If you are located in the United States or UK then the Naim Bassline Blue cable can be purchased direct on our REL.net website, or if you are located in a different region then this cable can be purchased from an authorized REL dealer or distributor. A full listing of authorized dealers and distributors can be found at the following link: rel.net/dealers/
@@RELAcoustics Thanks for the info.
Does this still have the high pass neutrick hookup
The S/510 features the high level connection, as well as low level and .1/LFE connectivity.
How does this sub compare to the t9i? Considering one for Dynaudio special 40s. The Ti lineup is probably due for refresh in 2021?
The S/510 is capable of delivering sub-bass output which is significantly faster, deeper, and more dynamic when compared to that of the T/9i. The S/510 should be an excellent match for pairing with your Dynaudio Special 40s, though if you have any further questions about speaker pairing or tuning feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to assist.
@@RELAcoustics Thank you! Appreciate your response.
I have a dyn s40 too. Listen to stereo and Ht. Considering the s812 too. Which model suits best for a 32.5 metre cube room.
@@rashidinrahim4415 For a custom subwoofer pairing recommendation for your system, feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net at your earliest convenience and we will be happy to assist.
@@RELAcoustics how about paring with Dali Rubicon 2 yah?
REL subs are a lot smaller than they used to be.
Improvements in technology have allowed us to make our subwoofers smaller, while still delivering the fast and dynamic output that our customers expect from a REL subwoofer. Truely a win/win in our opinion.
Dear John, I have an /510. I tried to connect the high level connection onto my Odyssey Stratos Extreme amp (Class AB). When I switched the subwoofer on (the amp was switched off), the sub gave me an almighty hum!! How can I solve this? Please help!!!
If the subwoofer only hums when it is powered on but the amplifier is powered off, and the hum goes away when you power on the amplifier, then it is likely that this amplifier breaks connection between it's internal circuitry and output connections when it is powered off. This will create an open connection for the High Level cable when the amp is powered off, resulting in a hum from the REL. When this happens, we recommend either leaving the REL and your amplifier fully powered on at all times, or to power off the REL prior to powering off your amplifier.
Would the REL S/510 mate well with the Klipsch AL5 LaScala?
Thank you for reaching out. The S/510 can pair well with your Klipsch La Scala speakers in smaller rooms, especially if using two in a stereo pair configuration, though if this system is being used in a moderate to large room then we typically recommend the S/812 or 212/SX as being a better match with these speakers. For a subwoofer pairing recommendation specific to your system, please write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to assist.
I should have done one of these instead of the pair of t9 I have
I have a pair of the S812 subs. Do these drivers have 2 spiders?
Thank you for contacting us. The active driver found in the S/812 does use a double-spider design.
How does this compare to the S/5 SHO?
Thank you for reaching out. Generally speaking, the S/510 is a higher performing subwoofer when compared to the S/5 SHO, though the ideal subwoofer model for your home audio system will depend on other variables. When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to provide a subwoofer pairing recommendation specific to your system.
10 inch 500watt REL subwoofer
You know what S stands for.
Is there a reason your subs are almost exclusively piano black? I'm not a fan of piano black because scratches are inevitable.
Thank you for reaching out. We use a gloss piano black finish on our subwoofers because industry-wide it is the most popular finish option for speakers and subwoofers, by a significant margin. However, most of our subwoofer models are also available in a gloss white finish as an alternative to piano black.
@@RELAcoustics Thanks. I did buy an HT/1003 to try with my 2 channel system and it works great for music.
No spikes with all that power what stops it moving on the floor Mr Lord allways had them to fix it firmly to the floor why none now. And how does a stack connect?
We do not recommend using spikes with out current models, since the legs are designed to place the downward-firing woofer at a specific distance from the floor. Adding spikes to the legs changes this distance, thus altering the performance of the subwoofer. We recommend using Blu-Tack under the legs, which is typically used to secure posters to walls without nails or pins. This helps secure the subwoofer to the floor, and prevents it from moving during use.
The line array stacks connect using a special high level cable. This is essentially a shorter version of the high level cable provided with our subwoofers, but with speakon connectors on both ends. They can also connect using balanced XLR cables.
I wish I was rich...
Y'all could have kelp the handles off
The handles on the sides of the cabinet allow for easy movement and positioning of the subwoofer, especially when stacking the subs in a line array configuration as shown in the video.