Thanks, Jimmy. That price point is awfully tempting… and with the hard case? You can’t beat it. I’ll never forget Rush performing “Xanadu” live, with Alex and Geddy both on their double neck guitars. Rock on!
Ha!! It’s only 18 stings….😎. You could change your handle to Eighteen Strings!! 🤣 It’s actually keeping tune quite well!! Thanks for stopping in to the channel and commenting! 🎸👍
on the 12 string, it takes at least 3 passes to get everybody set. there is so much tension, little changes on a string pulls the others out. so it is a balancing act until it settles in. then after playing it for a while it gets out of tune. the high octave G string, snaps on tuning, a lot. 9's I changed the string trees, with roller trees. so far so good. But the sound is worth it.
Hey Jimmy recently found your channel and it's been great. Don't let the haters bring you down man, I appreciate the more raw 1 on 1 videos that are mostly uncut. Also to my knowledge you served, thank you for your service (I come from a military family).
Hi Jake!! So glad you found the channel and glad you are enjoying it!! Hope you continue to explore! Truly appreciate your stopping in and thanks for the kind comments! 🙏👍
New to your channel, can't wait to dig through some (if not all) of your videos. I purchased a red one yesterday and I can't wait! Great hint on the acclimation. I will try to slide some pics of it. Thanks stranger (to me!)
Hi Bill! Glad you found the channel and congrats on your new FFLGS! Enjoy it!! Yes, please have a look around the channel as there is much to discover and hopefully enjoy! Truly appreciate your stopping by and saying “hi”!! I look forward to seeing you around! 🎸👍
Hi Jimmy just wanted to say thank you for your quick response yesterday about the buzzing on my new double neck firefly the buzzing on the fritz are gone. The guitar sounds beautiful by the way I bought the white one take care thank you very much. Rich
That’s excellent Rich! Glad to hear it’s sorted out! Congrats and enjoy it!! Appreciate your stopping in to the channel and your follow up! Glad I was able to help…keep pickin’…🎸👍
My friend, congratulations on your purchase!! I am considering one also but I am concerned about neck dive and how severe it is when standing and performing. Can you please tell me how it is as far as neck dive as I’ve never played or even stood and held a double neck guitar in my life but severe neck dive issues seem to be a common problem with all double neck guitar reviews regardless brand. Thank you in advance and please enjoy your beautiful double neck Guitar my friend! 🎸😊🎸
I missed N.G.D!! LOL Awesome Awesome Awesome Jimmy!! Great addition to the collection!! Thanks for the background story and I can't wait to see what you do with the Double!!
As I state in the video, they have the 4/6 available too…same color as my 12/6. Very cool…got to save up that spare change man…😎👍 Thanks so much for stopping in!! 🎸👍
Congratulations on the guitar, Jimmy. I played a real Gibson ES-1275 '60's/early 70's version that belonged to a friend of mine in a band. It was more than a boat anchor and he's still got it. He rarely plays it, but he knows there's no way he could get another one given the current market. Let's just say he got his when the market went soft. It goes soft every now and again on these things, because most people want one until they actually get to play it. Then it's "No thank you!" Lzzy Hale was recently showing her double neck (two 6 strings for some reason) and she can't play it for more than a song either. They're a rather one-trick pony, and even then, only if you've created an original or are covering a guitar that requires one person to cover both guitar parts. A year or so ago, I got the opportunity to buy an Epiphone version (including the case) at the price you would have paid for the Firefly. I say would have, because I believe they sent it to you for the demo. Again, the market softens up if you're patient. Problem was 2 fold for me and something you might mention to your listeners. The guitar is not just heavy, but for someone who is not very tall, it can be a pain to play. That's a heck of a reach to the lower neck, so it's much like playing a guitar while holding another guitar and playing over top of it! I took it out, gigged it on Stairway and Hotel CA, but I told the band there was no way I could keep that up, so I bought a replacement and switched guitars mid song. I now have a Rickenbacker 12 string and it's several pounds lighter (under 8) and a lot easier to play. Setup? Well, they use two (2) dual action truss rods, so that's a learning experience, but I have a particular set of skills that allow me to do my own work. I don't recommend it to the weak or weary. LOL That said, I can play in and out of songs and don't have to break my back. Shoot, the Rick is almost as light as my Gibson SG! Hotel CA requires a lot of going back and forth, but with the right chorus pedal, you can pull it off well enough for club gigs and no one at a festival is listening closely enough. 😆 Great video, I look forward to hearing more. Have a good day, Chief!
Hey there Jim! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. This is the 1st time playing a double neck, and for me anyway, it was surprisingly comfortable playing in from a sitting position. I would feel better with a good set of locking strap pins on it before walking around with it on a strap…😎 I realize the market goes in/out on guitars…especially high end models. Sometimes it’s all about being in the right place at the right time when looking. Truly appreciate your stopping in and sharing your thoughts….I tried to upload this with the “opening” of H.C. but of course the Eagle “Don’s” slapped it with a copyright violation so I just deleted if from the video…😎
@@JimmyStewart1 Yeah, the Eagles will stop you dead. I don't even bother with their music. They can kill it off themselves by making it unsharable. Yeah, sitting with that thing is a lot different from standing. Get the Fender strap locks from Sweetwater. They are compatible with the Schaller's and you won't drop it. You can also use the rubber ones if you don't have that. Be careful, because the end pin is easy, but that one up by the necks can crack things if you're not careful.
Yeah, I usually stay away from their stuff too, but thought I would try due to the nature of the guitar and it’s use….even 58 seconds of the opening triggered the algorithmic death sentence…😎 I will be careful when I do decide to replace the stock strap pins…appreciate the thoughts man….🎸👍
Hi Casey..thanks so much for watching and commenting! Very cool on your new IYV! Congrats and enjoy it!! Thanks so much for stopping into the channel and sharing!! 🎸👍
In the past, they sold cases for the 338 along with cases for the DCD/DCS and the Thinline Tele’s as well. Again, being a small company, they only did them a few times in small batches. I have video on the channel of both different cases they made.
That is an amazing doubleneck. Sounded terrific. Stainless steel rounded frets is great at this price point. Terrific review as always Jimmy. Thanks. I only wish they were still available. Maybe one day. 🤷 😊
Hi mropus…thanks so much for watching and commenting. They did a great job on these…and guess what? Should be available in a new batch very soon! Keep your eyes on Guitars Garden!! Thanks for stopping in…🎸👍
Firstly, Thank You very much for your thorough review, Sir, much appreciation for your time and expertise. Secondly, I am considering this guitar but wanted to ask you about neck dive and how severe it may be when standing and performing? If severe, can the strap pin be re-positioned elsewhere to offset the neck dive? I have never played or even touched a double neck in my life hence my question. (I am a long time player of 3 HEAVY Les Pauls and other guitars so I think I’ll be fine w the overall weight of this guitar but I am worried about severe neck dive to a point that it makes performing difficult to impossible.) Thank You again for an excellent review, Sir. 🙏🎸😊
Hi John…thanks for watching and commenting! There are a number of things you can do to offset “neck dive” while playing a double neck. One thing you will certainly see is that most players have their “necks” sitting at around the 1:00 position to start with. Better access to both necks, along with keeping balance while switching from neck to neck. Using a wide 3-4 inch strap also helps. I would put on a good set of strap locks “Before” using the guitar in a live, standing position. You could also bring your strap “over” the bottom bout of the guitar, helping hold the guitar closer to your body and preventing “forward falling” and better control. The guitar weighs in just over 13 lbs, so it is “heavy” but not unmanageable. Hope that helps answer some of your questions…and yes, you could move the top strap pin from the “center mass” position to say the “bottom” horn position, but I don’t think it’s actually necessary (once you replace the stock strap pins) with a sturdy set of locking pins! Thanks so much for stopping in to the channel! 🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Sir, I am sincerely grateful for your kindest and most informative (prompt) response! I appreciate the numerous ways that you mentioned that I could easily do to offset the unbalanced weight distribution (neck dive). I already use 3-4” wide straps and Schaller strap locks on all of my guitars so I’m in the ballpark already! Tilting the guitar up at a 1:00 position would be no issue for me as I also play classical guitar using a similar position albeit sitting down. I cannot Thank You enough Mr Stewart for your kindest response; I will most definitely be purchasing this instrument from Guitars Garden in the very near future. Health and happiness to you always, Sir! 🎸😊
@@JS45678 My pleasure…as you said, you are already in the “ballpark” to overcome any issues you may have and honestly, I think you will be just fine!! 🎸👍
I absolutely agree, the “cool factor” is off the charts! Besides Jimmy Stewart (NOT the one in Bedford Falls), Jimmy Page and Don Felder, I believe John McLaughlin also played a double neck at various times, didn’t he? It seems like in almost every single case, their use of a double neck was for one or two specific songs, and never in the studio… And I can see why-at 13 lbs, and with one neck being up higher than the other, they are probably uncomfortable and unwieldy to play for extended periods. This one looks INCREDIBLY well made for the price, and with stainless steel ball-end frets to boot… It looks like Firefly is really working to improve things! Really a lot of value there! How’s the tuning stability? For some reason, it seems like most 12 string guitars out there really suffer from poor tuning stability.
Hey PG! Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes, JM was another occasional player as well. And who can forget Rick Nielsen wielding his Hamer 5 neck!! 😎 EVH also used one…along with Mike Rutherford. This guitar is a home run for FF in the build…really, really nice! Surprisingly comfortable to play from a sitting position, as this was the 1st time I ever played one. Got use to it pretty quickly. Tuning has been quite stable considering how cold the instrument was from its travels and after a small bridge adjustment, it stayed in tune pretty well since. Checked it again today after shooting this yesterday, and it’s still holding well!
@@JimmyStewart1 Sounds like a home run indeed! These double neck guitars are truly iconic among rock players nowadays. If I’m not mistaken, I think this is also the first 12-string electric guitar you’ve ever reviewed, no? I may have to re-evaluate my idea of what’s “too heavy” for a guitar…
@@zuperdee Yes…it’s the 1st 12 I have reviewed here on the channel. I do own a Epiphone 12 acoustic, but it’s never been on the channel. It’s the 1st electric 12 I have ever had, and certainly the 1st double neck!! 🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 I thought I remembered you reviewing a 12-string acoustic before at one point, but maybe I’m mistaken. You should do a video on your Epiphone 12 acoustic!
Nope…I have been fixing some neck issues with the Epi…once it’s done, I will be doing a video with it. Both mine and my son’s Epiphone had the same issue (neck lifting). I fixed his and now working on mine.
Hi Jimmy, cool as hell, how was it playing it for the first time,I always figured they were kind of tough to play. Really nice addition....you go Jimmy,!
Hi Joe! Thanks for watching and commenting! This was my 1st time playing a double neck myself and I loved it!! It was actually quite comfortable in my lap. Have not tried “strapping” it on yet…😎 Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel Joe…it really is a cool addition to the arsenal!! 🎸👍
Jimmy, my double-neck arrived today, and it is beautiful, I got the White model. 12.8 pounds, and very nice (except for the strings). The octave "G" snapped when I tried to bring it up to pitch. I've got a couple of sets on order. Question about the neck relief, I read somewhere that Firefly guitars had double-action truss rods, is that true? The rod on the 12-string was frozen, but I managed to carefully get it operational. However, I can't get any more than 005" relief on either neck. How about yours?
Yeah, the strings on ANY of these guitars really need to be replaced. I always leave them on to do my initial review (if possible) to demo the guitar “right out of the box”! I let mine sit for a day before attempting to tune or adjust as it was really cold during its journey. Yes, FF uses dual action rods. These double necks are new, but I assume they use them as well. I have not adjusted mine…I only adjusted both bridges up to take out the string buzz I was getting on the 1st few frets on both necks. it has settled in well so far!
Jimmy thanks for responding so many TH-cam channels don't respond. I have a 69 Gibson ES 335 12 string and don't play it much as it is a bit harder than a 6 string but it really sounds beautiful. Would love to buy one of these double guitars but my wife would have a fit as I have about 45 guitars and have built 19 of them. I have dancing in my head no. 20 but don't tell my wife. Love your channel especially New Guitar Day.
Hi R. Honeycutt…I always try to respond to the viewers and subscribers as long as I can…and I truly appreciate those who watch and comment! Wow..a 69 335 12 string…nice!! I had a 75 335 Stereo (with Varitone) back in the day. One of those that I let “get away” and wish I still had. I say get that #20 built…I promise not to tell…😎 So glad you are enjoying the channel…appreciate having you here!! Keep pickin’….🎸👍
I came across these doublenecks literally yesterday, after finding a Firefly LP custom at my local GC. Great guitar and I was really tempted, but it didn't do anything I don't already have covered so passed on it. But I think their bass/guitar doubleneck is going to get me, as I'm really a bassist who occasionally abuses guitars lol. Wife'll be cool with it, her only stipulation is "you'd better get out there and play it"!
Hi Tommy..thanks for watching and commenting. If you are interested, I would grab one while you can. Firebird Music is a relatively “small” guitar company and only release guitars in small batches, and in some cases only once. Double necks are a fairly “limited” market, especially a 4/6 so I don’t think they made many of them. It may be a long while before you see them again in stock. Just sayin…Thanks again for stopping in to the channel…much appreciated! 🎸👍
@@guitar9021 probably should leave your politics at home or you might discover that there are plenty of people with opposing view-points. anyway, does the IYV guitars have stainless-steel frets like this one does? - no, i didn't think so.
@@jamesha175 Ur are Absolutely right and correct. There is no place for politics in music and i do apologize, that is not what this channel is about, there are plenty of political channels out there, i do have an opinion, but my music channel is not the place for that. i do have opposing view points on China, Russia, Ukraine communist dictatorships, that in this day and age it is hard to imagine that this is still going on in this world. As far as Vietnamese manufactured IYV guitars, i believe they are fantastic quality, for the price, and i luv to support the "little" guy,s or locally owned stores.🙃
@@guitar9021 IMO you don't need to apologize to anybody. this is your channel and you could express your opinion on anybody and anything - however that other guy is merely commenting and he should maybe be careful what he says. anyway i have heard good things about IYV guitars but this double neck for $400 with stainless steel frets is literally the best bargain of all time
Hi Jimmy J….so far, (it’s only been two days) I am loving it!! That might change when I go to re-string it…🤣 Seriously though, the build is excellent and at 13 lbs, not AS HEAVY as I thought it was going to be. I will be finding out how “how tough” it is in a standing position shortly…. Truly appreciate your stopping in…much thanks! 🎸👍
It’s not easy. I got one last week. Easy to play sitting, but the neck dive is wicked standing. I haven’t tried different straps, but I wouldn’t expect a huge difference. Still it’s way cool for $400!
Hi Jimmy, so great. This is Kathy, not sure if you remember me, you hired me. Sitting at a Doctors office today googling Firefly guitars, your amazing videos appeared. I'm so glad to see you.
Hi there Kathy!! Of course I remember you! So cool that you found the channel!! Hope your doing well kiddo! If there anything you need to know about FF guitars, you should be able to find it right here on the channel as I have been reviewing them since the beginning. Hope to see your around the channel, and go glad to see you here! 🎸👍
Hey Jimmy, I'm thinking about getting the 3-pickup version. Any thoughts on that one? It looks like it is just like yours, but with an additional pickup. I really can't decide which one to get...
Hi Jimmy…Yeah, the do have the triple pup model in the same color as mine. I prefer a “master vol/tone” configuration, as it’s just simpler. I would be interested in how the 3 pups are wired. Along with dual vol/tone it only has the 2 switches. One has to be switching between necks, but what about the other switch? It has to be between pickups, but what combinations is the question. 3 way switch…5 way switch?? What combos of pickups? Don’t know… The other thing to consider is your right hand playing position. I usually strum/pick up high around the neck pup position/neck area. Some like having the space between the neck and bridge pup for that and find the “middle” pickup in the way. Just some things to think about…they are all cool!! Should you decide to grab one, tell them “Jimmy sent ya”! 😎👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Thanks for your thoughts, I think you have some good points about the 3-pickup model. I just ordered a 2-pickup double neck in White, and told them "Jimmy sent me"!
Nice work again! I’m not interested in a double neck, but this looks great! I saw Don Felder back in 2017 in NH. It was iconic to see him play “Hotel California “ in person. He originated the song and he got screwed by Henley and Frye for the credit. Yes he played his famous double neck! I’ll always cherish that. See you next time.
Hi Bob!! Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Don got a “raw” deal for sure on H.C. Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel and sharing! 🎸👍
I really appreciate your quick replies. I have commented on other channels, but many do not respond. They only want more subscribers and more likes, etc. They are too busy to bother. Thanks again for your active channel. By the way...I finally bought something different! I bought a banjo! Good day!
My pleasure Bob…In my opinion, it’s the watchers, commentators and subscribers who help “make” a channel. I will always take the time to respond, as long as I can…😎. I had a banjo way back in the day…had a older gentleman that lived down the road from us when I was a kid who was trying to help me learn to play it. For some odd reason, I found it much more difficult to learn, so I slowly just gave up and focused on the guitar…🤣. Here we are 50 plus years later, and still trying to figure that out too! Congrats and good luck with that banjo!! 🎸👍
Good morning Jimmy. That's the most I've ever heard you say cool in a video. Steve Howe from yes also played a double neck. I hope you get to enjoy this guitar for many years. Have a great day.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting…that’s cause the guitar is cool…🤣 Yes…Steve Howe of course… Truly appreciate your stopping in…much thanks! 🎸👍
How is the intonation on the 12 string G string pair? I’ve heard that tuning stability can be an issue on the Harley Benton 612 G string pair, and I am curious how this one stacks up.
Hi Adam…thanks for watching and commenting. No issues with the intonation on the G strings or any other either. Guitar intonation is fine. Appreciate your stopping into the channel! 🎸👍
Hi Walter!! Wow…congratulations! The off white (like mine here) is just gorgeous! So glad you enjoyed the video and I hope you enjoy your new double neck as much as I am enjoying mine! Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel and thanks for sharing!! Once again, congrats and enjoy! 🎸👍
I watched the video up to the unpacking, and Odin's appearance. I've got to go and eat dinner, but I'll come back later with further comments about my opinions and feelings on double neck guitars, and Firefly in general, so I'll just say Happy 6th Birthday, Odin for now. TTYL.
@@JimmyStewart1 I'm back. First of all, I hope Firefly doesn't get into any legal trouble for calling this model a "Firebird", since Gibson already came out with that. I don't particularly like double neck guitars. They're cumbersome, and heavy. I know people who have back problems because of them. I remember when, a couple of years ago, Gibson actually came out with a limited edition 12 string SG. It almost made me want to take up the 12 string guitar, but as I said, they were a limited edition, and were only around for one summer. I wish they would bring them back. I think it's nice that Firefly is willing to include a case, though. If people want a double neck guitar, thenthey should get one, and since it's Firefly, it'll be good quality, but I'd rather wait for either Gibson, Epiphone, or Firefly to come out with a single neck 12 string SG. They should bring those back. Just my honest opinion.
@@nankypooh655 Thanks for coming back and watching. This model is NOT called a Firebird. Firebird is the name of the company that makes Firefly guitars. The company is Firebird Music… Double necks are certainly not everyone’s cup of tea… Firebird has already released a number of stand alone 12 string models, but not a SG model 12 string. Appreciate your watching and sharing your thoughts! 🎸👍
@12:16 looking at the E, A, D, G strings, it looks like the "heavier" gauge string (the thick one) is "furthest from the floor" ? (I hate to use "top" or "bottom" as it can get confusing) Again, I have never held a 12, but I always thought it would be the other way. "well, you thought wrong" lol
It’s all good…see my explanation on your initial question! It’s octave, Reg, octave Reg, octave Reg, octave Reg, then dual B’s tuned in unison and dual High E’s tuned in unison.
Great review, thank you soo much, Jimmy! One more? I have enough. OK, may be just One more? Still thinking. I do not have double neck one. I wish I have. And. Odin is just an Amazing Cat! My Magellan asked me to say Meow Odin! How are you, Dude?
Hi Igor…thanks so much for watching and commenting. Glad you enjoyed the video! If you are in the market for a double neck, it’s a great buy!! Truly appreciate your stopping in the channel and hope to see you around more! 🎸👍
Jimmy, I don't understand why they don't just put them back to back. Unless you have four arms, you can only play one at a time. There could be a switch that controls which one is on!! 😂
P.S. Great channel,, great reviews,, and Sweetwater has Gibson double necks for $7999!!!!! I'm still staggering,, $7999... maybe the poly finish is Perfect for that price, but I'll settle for the underdogs any day.
Thanks…much appreciated! For a “niche” guitar that will be used on a limited basis for most, doing the math is a no brainer! As I state in the video, the pricing on the Gibson and even the Epiphone are sky high…being able to add a nice double neck to your collection @ $400 with a hard shell case is a bargain! By the way, the IYV version does not ship with a case, which I believe is essential for a double neck.
So when are you going to go down to your local guitar center, you know the one with the sign that reads “No playing of Stairway To Heaven allowed”, and plug this guitar in and pretend you’re looking for a new amp as you ignore the sign? Ha! I had a Yamaha acoustic 12 string back in the 70’s and used it for the occasional song on gigs (and of course STH). I was unplugged long before it became fashionable lol. But man, I’m glad you did a review on this. Made me remember what a difference 6 more strings makes. Enjoy!!
Hi Fretwork…thanks so much for watching and commenting! Guitar Center?? Boo…hiss…I can’t remember the last time I was in a Guitar Center….😎 I have a buddy that owns his own music shop…been doing business there for the past 25 years or so….glad you enjoyed the video! Truly appreciate your stopping in! 🎸👍
Thanks for watching and commenting R. Honeycutt. The guitar weighs just over 13 lbs, but it balances nice in my lap. I have not played it yet via a strap as I would want to put some locking strap buttons on it 1st to be safe. As of right now, yes I plan on keeping it!! It’s cool!! 🎸👍
Hi M…thanks for watching and commenting. Well, I have yet to tour with it so that’s a “open” question… However, the build quality seems quite good and with normal care (😎) I am sure it would survive and perform just fine. Appreciate your stopping into the channel…much thanks! 🎸👍
Hello I just received my double neck fire fly guitar I have terrible fret buzz the top three frets I raised the bridge but it didn’t help could you let me know what to try next thanks Rich
Hi Rich…thanks for watching and commenting! Give the guitar a full day or so to acclimate before adjusting. A lot of my fret buzz disappeared after just letting it get acclimated to its new environment. If raising the bridge up has not helped, then have you checked the necks truss? You may need a bit more tension or the truss was shipped loose.
Hey Jimmy love your vids, very informative. Quick question a little off today's topic, I know that you have both Grotes semi and full hollow body jazz guitar with the p-90 in the neck position. My question is on the full hollow body guitar is the neck the same nut width and thickness as the semi hollow? I have the grote semi hollow and wanted the full hollow also but to save about forty bucks I got the Redid hollow that looked about the same but the neck is a bit thicker (beffier) than the grote semi hollow. Love the new hollow body except for that lol.
Hi William..thanks for watching and commenting. I honestly don’t recall any differences in the necks, but I would need to check measurements to give you a accurate response. I would guesstimate that the Jazz box is wider, but again would need to measure and compare the two. I can do that if needed when I get back to the studio. Give me a a day and I can try to get measurements for you!
@@JimmyStewart1 Oh that's ok bud, I got this redid guitar and it's not bad at all just slightly fatter neck is all. I'll just have to get used to it, it is a blast to play and actually came with a pretty good set-up and I can play it unplugged too. Thanks a bunch!
@@williamsherman1089 Yeah…I still think the Grote Jazz box is a bit wider as well…width and radius doesn’t really bother me when going from one to another, but yeah…you will get use to it!! Congrats and enjoy it man!! 🎸👍
Hi Peter..thanks for watching and commenting. The access on the higher frets is actually pretty good…similar to what you find in a standard SG style guitar. Reach between necks up high is a little tight, but I got use to it with in a hour or so of playing it. I haven’t “beat it” sort to speak, but tuning is holding up just fine and after letting it sit in it’s case for a couple weeks, took it out for a play and still in tune. Appreciate your stopping into the channel and hope that helps a bit! Much thanks…🎸👍
Thanks for watching and commenting Greg! I agree…it’s beyond cool! Truly appreciate your stopping in and agree, not everyone’s cup of tea, but… It’s so cool!! 😎
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! It really is a killer ax, and as I state, the “cool” factor is off the charts!! Hope you enjoy yours, and congrats and enjoy it!! 🎸👍
@@riffs_reviews_n_mods Nice!! Mine was REALLY cold as the weather here has been pretty brutal recently. I let it set for a full day before attempting to even tune it. Strings were setting on the frets…was actually glad to see that as shipping a double neck with tension on 18 strings is not a good idea! Congrats again and hope yours arrived as nearly flawless as mine! 🎸👍
so, there is a Low(est) E, then the next string is an octave higher. are the unison High E strings an octave of the "next" string? I am assuming that (ho, ho) instead of them being unison w/ it. but I have never held a 12.
Hi ekw555…thanks for watching and commenting! Your close, but not quite! The 1st string is the “octave Low E”, then the regular low E…then octave A, Reg A, octave D, Reg D, octave G, Reg G, double B’s, double High E’s….hope that helps….🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 bear with me, as I am fairly dense . . . . (like, say, depleted uranium is "fairly dense) actually, I may have figured this out on my 6 string. the High E must be a "double" octave of the regular Low E, or an octave of the Octave Low E. or maybe higher still. as my high E is higher than my Low E played at the 12th fret. I'm starting to think no one will understand what I am talking about because I am describing it so oddly to people who actually know guitar.
@@ekw555 Yes…the “octave” of the low is is not the same “pitch” or frequency of the open “high E”. The octave of the low E is the same pitch as playing a E note on the 2nd fret of the D string…there are two full octaves between the two open E strings, the 6th string open E (low E string) and the 1st string open E (High E String) Hope that helps…🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 that does help! thanks! I was thinking "there are a lot of E's on the fretboard, some are unison w/ each other, and others octaves, but I did not know (or forgot) "how many". I guess if there are 2 between Low E & High E, there are 3 full Octaves of E on the fretboard (from open Low E to High E at 12th fret. I hope.
i really love your video this is my first time on your viedo awesome review i really didn’t like these double necks but they look nice and play nice i may have to save up and get one thank you odin is an awesome name for a cat by the way
Hi finaljesus…thanks for watching and commenting! Nice that you have found the channel and enjoyed the video. By all means have a look around the channel, lots to see!! Thanks again for stopping in and Odin and I appreciate it! 🎸👍
🤣🤣 Thanks so much for watching and commenting Daniel!! I had to go back and delete my incorrect chord, non capo, wrong strum pattern version of H.C. as the Eagle “Don’s” and the TH-cam algorithm still hit it with their ridiculous copyright infringement. Oh well….at least J.C.Y and the Youngbloods still have a sense of humor for a guitar demo…appreciate your stopping in to the channel!! 🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 I'm old and retired. raised 3 kids, and 1 grand kid. money is tight, so I have to save up for a kit to build. the double neck was the first one,( Agatha), I built. two for one, kinda idea. I have since built two strat style guitars, and 1-12 string telecaster type. I got my copy of Rocksmith last week. When I were young, I had the money. but no time. Now I have time, and no money. :) My granddaughter, is a musician and music teacher. I used to get equipment for her, and tune her guitars, but never had the time to learn. I'm having a good time with it. my trades in life, airframes mech, computer tech, woodworker. Loved the video.
Hi Dan…thanks for stopping in! All Firefly Guitars are sold in their website at www.guitarsgarden.com If you don’t see it listed there, then is currently not in stock and sold out!
Hi Mark…they didn’t make a lot of this right handed version either…with this type of “niche” instrument it would have been tough for a small company like Firefly to produce left-handed versions as they probably be setting on the inventory. It’s unfortunate, but left handed guitars simply don’t sell enough units to make it profitable for a small company. Appreciate your stopping in to the channel and sharing your thoughts. 🎸👍
@@Archangels1 Just pointing out that this is a well made, budget option for those who always wanted to add one to the arsenal but couldn’t justify the price for a niche instrument. Thanks for stopping into the channel…🎸👍
Doublenecks can be fun guitars if someone with brain matter throws out the stereotypes and learns the rules on using it. No, it’s not just for playing “Stairway”. No, it’s not wise to make it your lone guitar for a set. Yes, you might look cool playing it, but if you only use one neck, you’re a phony. And finally, anyone can play one, especially if being seated with it is not a crime in your book. Lose the stereotypes.
Thanks, Jimmy. That price point is awfully tempting… and with the hard case? You can’t beat it. I’ll never forget Rush performing “Xanadu” live, with Alex and Geddy both on their double neck guitars. Rock on!
Hi John!! Thanks for watching and commenting! Rush!! Of course!!
Appreciate your stopping into the channel and sharing. 🎸👍
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I think I'd go insane trying to keep that thing in tune. 😃
Ha!! It’s only 18 stings….😎. You could change your handle to Eighteen Strings!! 🤣
It’s actually keeping tune quite well!! Thanks for stopping in to the channel and commenting! 🎸👍
Yea 12 strings are a drag. I’ve had the same set on mine for years. I like playing super tramp and hotel cal though smh.
@@JimmyStewart1man I hope it holds tune oh boy
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Holds tune just fine! Think of it as tuning two guitars….easy peasy 😎
Thanks so much for stopping in to the channel. Much thanks! 🎸👍
on the 12 string, it takes at least 3 passes to get everybody set. there is so much tension, little changes on a string pulls the others out. so it is a balancing act until it settles in. then after playing it for a while it gets out of tune. the high octave G string, snaps on tuning, a lot. 9's I changed the string trees, with roller trees. so far so good.
But the sound is worth it.
Hey Jimmy recently found your channel and it's been great. Don't let the haters bring you down man, I appreciate the more raw 1 on 1 videos that are mostly uncut. Also to my knowledge you served, thank you for your service (I come from a military family).
Hi Jake!! So glad you found the channel and glad you are enjoying it!! Hope you continue to explore! Truly appreciate your stopping in and thanks for the kind comments! 🙏👍
Jimmy doesn't have any haters....
@@popsfereal Comments I've seen in previous videos say otherwise lol
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Ha!! 🙏👍
@@Jake_915
It’s all good Jake…you can’t please them all…🙏👍
New to your channel, can't wait to dig through some (if not all) of your videos. I purchased a red one yesterday and I can't wait! Great hint on the acclimation. I will try to slide some pics of it. Thanks stranger (to me!)
Hi Bill! Glad you found the channel and congrats on your new FFLGS! Enjoy it!!
Yes, please have a look around the channel as there is much to discover and hopefully enjoy! Truly appreciate your stopping by and saying “hi”!! I look forward to seeing you around! 🎸👍
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Hi Jimmy just wanted to say thank you for your quick response yesterday about the buzzing on my new double neck firefly the buzzing on the fritz are gone. The guitar sounds beautiful by the way I bought the white one take care thank you very much. Rich
That’s excellent Rich! Glad to hear it’s sorted out! Congrats and enjoy it!! Appreciate your stopping in to the channel and your follow up! Glad I was able to help…keep pickin’…🎸👍
My friend, congratulations on your purchase!!
I am considering one also but I am concerned about neck dive and how severe it is when standing and performing.
Can you please tell me how it is as far as neck dive as I’ve never played or even stood and held a double neck guitar in my life but severe neck dive issues seem to be a common problem with all double neck guitar reviews regardless brand.
Thank you in advance and please enjoy your beautiful double neck Guitar my friend! 🎸😊🎸
I missed N.G.D!! LOL Awesome Awesome Awesome Jimmy!! Great addition to the collection!! Thanks for the background story and I can't wait to see what you do with the Double!!
Thanks so much Reggie! Glad you enjoyed it!! I am going to have some fun with it for sure!! Much appreciated my friend!! 🎸👍
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Was just thinking it would be cool to have a bass and guitar double neck. Checked there site and they have one. I don’t have $430 to get one.
As I state in the video, they have the 4/6 available too…same color as my 12/6. Very cool…got to save up that spare change man…😎👍
Thanks so much for stopping in!! 🎸👍
Congratulations on the guitar, Jimmy. I played a real Gibson ES-1275 '60's/early 70's version that belonged to a friend of mine in a band. It was more than a boat anchor and he's still got it. He rarely plays it, but he knows there's no way he could get another one given the current market. Let's just say he got his when the market went soft. It goes soft every now and again on these things, because most people want one until they actually get to play it. Then it's "No thank you!" Lzzy Hale was recently showing her double neck (two 6 strings for some reason) and she can't play it for more than a song either. They're a rather one-trick pony, and even then, only if you've created an original or are covering a guitar that requires one person to cover both guitar parts.
A year or so ago, I got the opportunity to buy an Epiphone version (including the case) at the price you would have paid for the Firefly. I say would have, because I believe they sent it to you for the demo. Again, the market softens up if you're patient. Problem was 2 fold for me and something you might mention to your listeners. The guitar is not just heavy, but for someone who is not very tall, it can be a pain to play. That's a heck of a reach to the lower neck, so it's much like playing a guitar while holding another guitar and playing over top of it! I took it out, gigged it on Stairway and Hotel CA, but I told the band there was no way I could keep that up, so I bought a replacement and switched guitars mid song.
I now have a Rickenbacker 12 string and it's several pounds lighter (under 8) and a lot easier to play. Setup? Well, they use two (2) dual action truss rods, so that's a learning experience, but I have a particular set of skills that allow me to do my own work. I don't recommend it to the weak or weary. LOL That said, I can play in and out of songs and don't have to break my back. Shoot, the Rick is almost as light as my Gibson SG! Hotel CA requires a lot of going back and forth, but with the right chorus pedal, you can pull it off well enough for club gigs and no one at a festival is listening closely enough. 😆
Great video, I look forward to hearing more. Have a good day, Chief!
Hey there Jim! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. This is the 1st time playing a double neck, and for me anyway, it was surprisingly comfortable playing in from a sitting position. I would feel better with a good set of locking strap pins on it before walking around with it on a strap…😎
I realize the market goes in/out on guitars…especially high end models. Sometimes it’s all about being in the right place at the right time when looking.
Truly appreciate your stopping in and sharing your thoughts….I tried to upload this with the “opening” of H.C. but of course the Eagle “Don’s” slapped it with a copyright violation so I just deleted if from the video…😎
@@JimmyStewart1 Yeah, the Eagles will stop you dead. I don't even bother with their music. They can kill it off themselves by making it unsharable.
Yeah, sitting with that thing is a lot different from standing. Get the Fender strap locks from Sweetwater. They are compatible with the Schaller's and you won't drop it. You can also use the rubber ones if you don't have that. Be careful, because the end pin is easy, but that one up by the necks can crack things if you're not careful.
Yeah, I usually stay away from their stuff too, but thought I would try due to the nature of the guitar and it’s use….even 58 seconds of the opening triggered the algorithmic death sentence…😎
I will be careful when I do decide to replace the stock strap pins…appreciate the thoughts man….🎸👍
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I got my double neck IYV about a week ago and love it!
Hi Casey..thanks so much for watching and commenting! Very cool on your new IYV! Congrats and enjoy it!! Thanks so much for stopping into the channel and sharing!! 🎸👍
Wish they offered more cases with the guitars, love that it has the firefly branding on it!
In the past, they sold cases for the 338 along with cases for the DCD/DCS and the Thinline Tele’s as well. Again, being a small company, they only did them a few times in small batches. I have video on the channel of both different cases they made.
That is an amazing doubleneck. Sounded terrific. Stainless steel rounded frets is great at this price point. Terrific review as always Jimmy. Thanks. I only wish they were still available. Maybe one day. 🤷 😊
Hi mropus…thanks so much for watching and commenting. They did a great job on these…and guess what? Should be available in a new batch very soon! Keep your eyes on Guitars Garden!! Thanks for stopping in…🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 thanks Jimmy
Firstly, Thank You very much for your thorough review, Sir, much appreciation for your time and expertise.
Secondly, I am considering this guitar but wanted to ask you about neck dive and how severe it may be when standing and performing?
If severe, can the strap pin be re-positioned elsewhere to offset the neck dive?
I have never played or even touched a double neck in my life hence my question. (I am a long time player of 3 HEAVY Les Pauls and other guitars so I think I’ll be fine w the overall weight of this guitar but I am worried about severe neck dive to a point that it makes performing difficult to impossible.)
Thank You again for an excellent review, Sir. 🙏🎸😊
Hi John…thanks for watching and commenting! There are a number of things you can do to offset “neck dive” while playing a double neck. One thing you will certainly see is that most players have their “necks” sitting at around the 1:00 position to start with. Better access to both necks, along with keeping balance while switching from neck to neck. Using a wide 3-4 inch strap also helps. I would put on a good set of strap locks “Before” using the guitar in a live, standing position. You could also bring your strap “over” the bottom bout of the guitar, helping hold the guitar closer to your body and preventing “forward falling” and better control.
The guitar weighs in just over 13 lbs, so it is “heavy” but not unmanageable. Hope that helps answer some of your questions…and yes, you could move the top strap pin from the “center mass” position to say the “bottom” horn position, but I don’t think it’s actually necessary (once you replace the stock strap pins) with a sturdy set of locking pins! Thanks so much for stopping in to the channel! 🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Sir, I am sincerely grateful for your kindest and most informative (prompt) response!
I appreciate the numerous ways that you mentioned that I could easily do to offset the unbalanced weight distribution (neck dive).
I already use 3-4” wide straps and Schaller strap locks on all of my guitars so I’m in the ballpark already!
Tilting the guitar up at a 1:00 position would be no issue for me as I also play classical guitar using a similar position albeit sitting down.
I cannot Thank You enough Mr Stewart for your kindest response; I will most definitely be purchasing this instrument from Guitars Garden in the very near future.
Health and happiness to you always, Sir! 🎸😊
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My pleasure…as you said, you are already in the “ballpark” to overcome any issues you may have and honestly, I think you will be just fine!! 🎸👍
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I absolutely agree, the “cool factor” is off the charts! Besides Jimmy Stewart (NOT the one in Bedford Falls), Jimmy Page and Don Felder, I believe John McLaughlin also played a double neck at various times, didn’t he? It seems like in almost every single case, their use of a double neck was for one or two specific songs, and never in the studio… And I can see why-at 13 lbs, and with one neck being up higher than the other, they are probably uncomfortable and unwieldy to play for extended periods. This one looks INCREDIBLY well made for the price, and with stainless steel ball-end frets to boot… It looks like Firefly is really working to improve things! Really a lot of value there! How’s the tuning stability? For some reason, it seems like most 12 string guitars out there really suffer from poor tuning stability.
Hey PG! Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes, JM was another occasional player as well. And who can forget Rick Nielsen wielding his Hamer 5 neck!! 😎
EVH also used one…along with Mike Rutherford. This guitar is a home run for FF in the build…really, really nice! Surprisingly comfortable to play from a sitting position, as this was the 1st time I ever played one. Got use to it pretty quickly. Tuning has been quite stable considering how cold the instrument was from its travels and after a small bridge adjustment, it stayed in tune pretty well since. Checked it again today after shooting this yesterday, and it’s still holding well!
@@JimmyStewart1 Sounds like a home run indeed! These double neck guitars are truly iconic among rock players nowadays. If I’m not mistaken, I think this is also the first 12-string electric guitar you’ve ever reviewed, no? I may have to re-evaluate my idea of what’s “too heavy” for a guitar…
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Yes…it’s the 1st 12 I have reviewed here on the channel. I do own a Epiphone 12 acoustic, but it’s never been on the channel. It’s the 1st electric 12 I have ever had, and certainly the 1st double neck!! 🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 I thought I remembered you reviewing a 12-string acoustic before at one point, but maybe I’m mistaken. You should do a video on your Epiphone 12 acoustic!
Nope…I have been fixing some neck issues with the Epi…once it’s done, I will be doing a video with it. Both mine and my son’s Epiphone had the same issue (neck lifting). I fixed his and now working on mine.
Another great episode Chief! “Keep ‘em comin’”😊
Thanks so much mjvicc1952…much appreciated! 🎸👍
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@@guitar9021 IYV makes a really terrific product regardless of the price point.
As I said, I have guitars built from all parts of the world. I have over a dozen IYV guitars as well…
Indeed! 🎸👍
Hi Jimmy, cool as hell, how was it playing it for the first time,I always figured they were kind of tough to play. Really nice addition....you go Jimmy,!
Hi Joe! Thanks for watching and commenting! This was my 1st time playing a double neck myself and I loved it!! It was actually quite comfortable in my lap. Have not tried “strapping” it on yet…😎
Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel Joe…it really is a cool addition to the arsenal!! 🎸👍
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Jimmy, my double-neck arrived today, and it is beautiful, I got the White model. 12.8 pounds, and very nice (except for the strings). The octave "G" snapped when I tried to bring it up to pitch. I've got a couple of sets on order.
Question about the neck relief, I read somewhere that Firefly guitars had double-action truss rods, is that true? The rod on the 12-string was frozen, but I managed to carefully get it operational. However, I can't get any more than 005" relief on either neck. How about yours?
Yeah, the strings on ANY of these guitars really need to be replaced. I always leave them on to do my initial review (if possible) to demo the guitar “right out of the box”! I let mine sit for a day before attempting to tune or adjust as it was really cold during its journey. Yes, FF uses dual action rods. These double necks are new, but I assume they use them as well. I have not adjusted mine…I only adjusted both bridges up to take out the string buzz I was getting on the 1st few frets on both necks. it has settled in well so far!
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I was looking at them. Funny you did a review!! Well thanks, I know what I'm going to order now!
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Glad you enjoyed it!! 🎸👍
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Jimmy thanks for responding so many TH-cam channels don't respond. I have a 69 Gibson ES 335 12 string and don't play it much as it is a bit harder than a 6 string but it really sounds beautiful. Would love to buy one of these double guitars but my wife would have a fit as I have about 45 guitars and have built 19 of them. I have dancing in my head no. 20 but don't tell my wife. Love your channel especially New Guitar Day.
Hi R. Honeycutt…I always try to respond to the viewers and subscribers as long as I can…and I truly appreciate those who watch and comment! Wow..a 69 335 12 string…nice!! I had a 75 335 Stereo (with Varitone) back in the day. One of those that I let “get away” and wish I still had. I say get that #20 built…I promise not to tell…😎
So glad you are enjoying the channel…appreciate having you here!! Keep pickin’….🎸👍
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I came across these doublenecks literally yesterday, after finding a Firefly LP custom at my local GC. Great guitar and I was really tempted, but it didn't do anything I don't already have covered so passed on it. But I think their bass/guitar doubleneck is going to get me, as I'm really a bassist who occasionally abuses guitars lol. Wife'll be cool with it, her only stipulation is "you'd better get out there and play it"!
Hi Tommy..thanks for watching and commenting. If you are interested, I would grab one while you can. Firebird Music is a relatively “small” guitar company and only release guitars in small batches, and in some cases only once. Double necks are a fairly “limited” market, especially a 4/6 so I don’t think they made many of them.
It may be a long while before you see them again in stock. Just sayin…Thanks again for stopping in to the channel…much appreciated! 🎸👍
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@@guitar9021 probably should leave your politics at home or you might discover that there are plenty of people with opposing view-points. anyway, does the IYV guitars have stainless-steel frets like this one does? - no, i didn't think so.
@@jamesha175 Ur are Absolutely right and correct. There is no place for politics in music and i do apologize, that is not what this channel is about, there are plenty of political channels out there, i do have an opinion, but my music channel is not the place for that. i do have opposing view points on China, Russia, Ukraine communist dictatorships, that in this day and age it is hard to imagine that this is still going on in this world. As far as Vietnamese manufactured IYV guitars, i believe they are fantastic quality, for the price, and i luv to support the "little" guy,s or locally owned stores.🙃
@@guitar9021 IMO you don't need to apologize to anybody. this is your channel and you could express your opinion on anybody and anything - however that other guy is merely commenting and he should maybe be careful what he says. anyway i have heard good things about IYV guitars but this double neck for $400 with stainless steel frets is literally the best bargain of all time
I hope you enjoy your new guitar! I wouldn't mind having one myself! I'm just wondering how tough it would be to play standing up?
Hi Jimmy J….so far, (it’s only been two days) I am loving it!! That might change when I go to re-string it…🤣
Seriously though, the build is excellent and at 13 lbs, not AS HEAVY as I thought it was going to be. I will be finding out how “how tough” it is in a standing position shortly….
Truly appreciate your stopping in…much thanks! 🎸👍
It’s not easy. I got one last week. Easy to play sitting, but the neck dive is wicked standing. I haven’t tried different straps, but I wouldn’t expect a huge difference. Still it’s way cool for $400!
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Thanks for stopping in Mark! It is “way cool”!! I will giving it a shot here pretty soon. Appreciate the input! 🎸👍
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Hi Jimmy, so great. This is Kathy, not sure if you remember me, you hired me. Sitting at a Doctors office today googling Firefly guitars, your amazing videos appeared. I'm so glad to see you.
Hi there Kathy!! Of course I remember you! So cool that you found the channel!! Hope your doing well kiddo! If there anything you need to know about FF guitars, you should be able to find it right here on the channel as I have been reviewing them since the beginning. Hope to see your around the channel, and go glad to see you here! 🎸👍
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Hey Jimmy, I'm thinking about getting the 3-pickup version. Any thoughts on that one? It looks like it is just like yours, but with an additional pickup. I really can't decide which one to get...
Hi Jimmy…Yeah, the do have the triple pup model in the same color as mine. I prefer a “master vol/tone” configuration, as it’s just simpler. I would be interested in how the 3 pups are wired. Along with dual vol/tone it only has the 2 switches. One has to be switching between necks, but what about the other switch? It has to be between pickups, but what combinations is the question. 3 way switch…5 way switch?? What combos of pickups? Don’t know…
The other thing to consider is your right hand playing position. I usually strum/pick up high around the neck pup position/neck area. Some like having the space between the neck and bridge pup for that and find the “middle” pickup in the way. Just some things to think about…they are all cool!! Should you decide to grab one, tell them “Jimmy sent ya”! 😎👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Thanks for your thoughts, I think you have some good points about the 3-pickup model. I just ordered a 2-pickup double neck in White, and told them "Jimmy sent me"!
Sounds great Jimmy. Thanks for this review.
Hi Dianna…thanks so much for watching and commenting. Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel! Much thanks…🎸👍
Nice work again! I’m not interested in a double neck, but this looks great! I saw Don Felder back in 2017 in NH. It was iconic to see him play “Hotel California “ in person. He originated the song and he got screwed by Henley and Frye for the credit. Yes he played his famous double neck! I’ll always cherish that. See you next time.
Hi Bob!! Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Don got a “raw” deal for sure on H.C.
Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel and sharing! 🎸👍
I really appreciate your quick replies. I have commented on other channels, but many do not respond. They only want more subscribers and more likes, etc. They are too busy to bother. Thanks again for your active channel. By the way...I finally bought something different! I bought a banjo! Good day!
My pleasure Bob…In my opinion, it’s the watchers, commentators and subscribers who help “make” a channel. I will always take the time to respond, as long as I can…😎. I had a banjo way back in the day…had a older gentleman that lived down the road from us when I was a kid who was trying to help me learn to play it. For some odd reason, I found it much more difficult to learn, so I slowly just gave up and focused on the guitar…🤣. Here we are 50 plus years later, and still trying to figure that out too! Congrats and good luck with that banjo!! 🎸👍
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Good morning Jimmy. That's the most I've ever heard you say cool in a video. Steve Howe from yes also played a double neck.
I hope you get to enjoy this guitar for many years. Have a great day.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting…that’s cause the guitar is cool…🤣
Yes…Steve Howe of course…
Truly appreciate your stopping in…much thanks! 🎸👍
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How is the intonation on the 12 string G string pair? I’ve heard that tuning stability can be an issue on the Harley Benton 612 G string pair, and I am curious how this one stacks up.
Hi Adam…thanks for watching and commenting. No issues with the intonation on the G strings or any other either. Guitar intonation is fine. Appreciate your stopping into the channel! 🎸👍
saw this ,and at that price i had to get it, went with the off white, toss up between that or the red, good vid as usual jim!!
Hi Walter!! Wow…congratulations! The off white (like mine here) is just gorgeous! So glad you enjoyed the video and I hope you enjoy your new double neck as much as I am enjoying mine! Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel and thanks for sharing!!
Once again, congrats and enjoy! 🎸👍
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I watched the video up to the unpacking, and Odin's appearance. I've got to go and eat dinner, but I'll come back later with further comments about my opinions and feelings on double neck guitars, and Firefly in general, so I'll just say Happy 6th Birthday, Odin for now. TTYL.
Thanks for stopping in…Odin says “thanks”….😎
@@JimmyStewart1 I'm back. First of all, I hope Firefly doesn't get into any legal trouble for calling this model a "Firebird", since Gibson already came out with that. I don't particularly like double neck guitars. They're cumbersome, and heavy. I know people who have back problems because of them. I remember when, a couple of years ago, Gibson actually came out with a limited edition 12 string SG. It almost made me want to take up the 12 string guitar, but as I said, they were a limited edition, and were only around for one summer. I wish they would bring them back. I think it's nice that Firefly is willing to include a case, though. If people want a double neck guitar, thenthey should get one, and since it's Firefly, it'll be good quality, but I'd rather wait for either Gibson, Epiphone, or Firefly to come out with a single neck 12 string SG. They should bring those back. Just my honest opinion.
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Thanks for coming back and watching.
This model is NOT called a Firebird. Firebird is the name of the company that makes Firefly guitars. The company is Firebird Music…
Double necks are certainly not everyone’s cup of tea…
Firebird has already released a number of stand alone 12 string models, but not a SG model 12 string.
Appreciate your watching and sharing your thoughts! 🎸👍
@12:16 looking at the E, A, D, G strings, it looks like the "heavier" gauge string (the thick one) is "furthest from the floor" ? (I hate to use "top" or "bottom" as it can get confusing)
Again, I have never held a 12, but I always thought it would be the other way.
"well, you thought wrong" lol
It’s all good…see my explanation on your initial question! It’s octave, Reg, octave Reg, octave Reg, octave Reg, then dual B’s tuned in unison and dual High E’s tuned in unison.
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I like the fact that it has a 12 string., they are very expensive. And it has stainless steel frets, wow.
The build is excellent Tony…..very nice job done by Firebird on these.
Thanks so much for stopping in and watching! Much appreciated! 🎸👍
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Great review, thank you soo much, Jimmy!
One more? I have enough.
OK, may be just One more?
Still thinking. I do not have double neck one.
I wish I have. And.
Odin is just an Amazing Cat!
My Magellan asked me to say Meow Odin!
How are you, Dude?
Hi Igor…thanks so much for watching and commenting. Glad you enjoyed the video! If you are in the market for a double neck, it’s a great buy!! Truly appreciate your stopping in the channel and hope to see you around more! 🎸👍
Jimmy, I don't understand why they don't just put them back to back. Unless you have four arms, you can only play one at a time. There could be a switch that controls which one is on!! 😂
It would be a pretty thick guitar…😎
You would also get a pretty good upper arm workout while flipping them around as well…
P.S. Great channel,, great reviews,, and Sweetwater has Gibson double necks for $7999!!!!! I'm still staggering,, $7999... maybe the poly finish is Perfect for that price, but I'll settle for the underdogs any day.
Thanks…much appreciated! For a “niche” guitar that will be used on a limited basis for most, doing the math is a no brainer! As I state in the video, the pricing on the Gibson and even the Epiphone are sky high…being able to add a nice double neck to your collection @ $400 with a hard shell case is a bargain! By the way, the IYV version does not ship with a case, which I believe is essential for a double neck.
So when are you going to go down to your local guitar center, you know the one with the sign that reads “No playing of Stairway To Heaven allowed”, and plug this guitar in and pretend you’re looking for a new amp as you ignore the sign? Ha! I had a Yamaha acoustic 12 string back in the 70’s and used it for the occasional song on gigs (and of course STH). I was unplugged long before it became fashionable lol. But man, I’m glad you did a review on this. Made me remember what a difference 6 more strings makes. Enjoy!!
Hi Fretwork…thanks so much for watching and commenting! Guitar Center?? Boo…hiss…I can’t remember the last time I was in a Guitar Center….😎
I have a buddy that owns his own music shop…been doing business there for the past 25 years or so….glad you enjoyed the video! Truly appreciate your stopping in! 🎸👍
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Cool guitar, is it heavy to play? Will you be keeping this?
Thanks for watching and commenting R. Honeycutt. The guitar weighs just over 13 lbs, but it balances nice in my lap. I have not played it yet via a strap as I would want to put some locking strap buttons on it 1st to be safe. As of right now, yes I plan on keeping it!! It’s cool!! 🎸👍
How gigable is it? Durability? How long would it survive on a tour?
Hi M…thanks for watching and commenting. Well, I have yet to tour with it so that’s a “open” question…
However, the build quality seems quite good and with normal care (😎) I am sure it would survive and perform just fine. Appreciate your stopping into the channel…much thanks! 🎸👍
Hello I just received my double neck fire fly guitar I have terrible fret buzz the top three frets I raised the bridge but it didn’t help could you let me know what to try next thanks Rich
Hi Rich…thanks for watching and commenting! Give the guitar a full day or so to acclimate before adjusting. A lot of my fret buzz disappeared after just letting it get acclimated to its new environment. If raising the bridge up has not helped, then have you checked the necks truss? You may need a bit more tension or the truss was shipped loose.
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Hey Jimmy love your vids, very informative. Quick question a little off today's topic, I know that you have both Grotes semi and full hollow body jazz guitar with the p-90 in the neck position. My question is on the full hollow body guitar is the neck the same nut width and thickness as the semi hollow? I have the grote semi hollow and wanted the full hollow also but to save about forty bucks I got the Redid hollow that looked about the same but the neck is a bit thicker (beffier) than the grote semi hollow. Love the new hollow body except for that lol.
Hi William..thanks for watching and commenting. I honestly don’t recall any differences in the necks, but I would need to check measurements to give you a accurate response. I would guesstimate that the Jazz box is wider, but again would need to measure and compare the two. I can do that if needed when I get back to the studio.
Give me a a day and I can try to get measurements for you!
@@JimmyStewart1 Oh that's ok bud, I got this redid guitar and it's not bad at all just slightly fatter neck is all. I'll just have to get used to it, it is a blast to play and actually came with a pretty good set-up and I can play it unplugged too. Thanks a bunch!
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Yeah…I still think the Grote Jazz box is a bit wider as well…width and radius doesn’t really bother me when going from one to another, but yeah…you will get use to it!!
Congrats and enjoy it man!! 🎸👍
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How is the access to the higher/highest frets? Does it stay in tune with a beating?
Hi Peter..thanks for watching and commenting. The access on the higher frets is actually pretty good…similar to what you find in a standard SG style guitar. Reach between necks up high is a little tight, but I got use to it with in a hour or so of playing it. I haven’t “beat it” sort to speak, but tuning is holding up just fine and after letting it sit in it’s case for a couple weeks, took it out for a play and still in tune. Appreciate your stopping into the channel and hope that helps a bit!
Much thanks…🎸👍
A nice Happy Birthday to Odin from Rocko Cat! Beauty of a doubleneck there, Jimmy! Nice demo!
Thanks so much Cal and Rocko…Odin says thanks!! Appreciate your stopping in as well!! 🎸👍
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It’s super cool. I don’t have a use for one though.
Thanks for watching and commenting Greg! I agree…it’s beyond cool! Truly appreciate your stopping in and agree, not everyone’s cup of tea, but…
It’s so cool!! 😎
Jealous you got yours before me lol, thanks for the informative video now I don't have to figure out the switching when mine arrives.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! It really is a killer ax, and as I state, the “cool” factor is off the charts!! Hope you enjoy yours, and congrats and enjoy it!! 🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 You must be good luck brother checked the mail and mine just arrived, letting it acclimate now :)
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Nice!! Mine was REALLY cold as the weather here has been pretty brutal recently. I let it set for a full day before attempting to even tune it. Strings were setting on the frets…was actually glad to see that as shipping a double neck with tension on 18 strings is not a good idea! Congrats again and hope yours arrived as nearly flawless as mine! 🎸👍
so, there is a Low(est) E, then the next string is an octave higher.
are the unison High E strings an octave of the "next" string?
I am assuming that (ho, ho) instead of them being unison w/ it.
but I have never held a 12.
Hi ekw555…thanks for watching and commenting! Your close, but not quite! The 1st string is the “octave Low E”, then the regular low E…then octave A, Reg A, octave D, Reg D, octave G, Reg G, double B’s, double High E’s….hope that helps….🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 bear with me, as I am fairly dense . . . . (like, say, depleted uranium is "fairly dense)
actually, I may have figured this out on my 6 string.
the High E must be a "double" octave of the regular Low E, or an octave of the Octave Low E.
or maybe higher still. as my high E is higher than my Low E played at the 12th fret.
I'm starting to think no one will understand what I am talking about because I am describing it so oddly to people who actually know guitar.
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Yes…the “octave” of the low is is not the same “pitch” or frequency of the open “high E”. The octave of the low E is the same pitch as playing a E note on the 2nd fret of the D string…there are two full octaves between the two open E strings, the 6th string open E (low E string) and the 1st string open E (High E String) Hope that helps…🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 that does help! thanks!
I was thinking "there are a lot of E's on the fretboard, some are unison w/ each other, and others octaves, but I did not know (or forgot) "how many". I guess if there are 2 between Low E & High E, there are 3 full Octaves of E on the fretboard (from open Low E to High E at 12th fret.
I hope.
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That is correct!! You got it!! 🎸👍
The '70s are back!!
But a little much for the backs of the 70s(-omethings).
Ha Ha!!
That’s good….🤣. Still a cool guitar 😎👍
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someone asks jimmy: "why did you get a double neck guitar"??
jimmy replies: "because i can...plus its super kool"!
really nice one brother!
🤣🤣
Much appreciated!! 🎸👍
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i really love your video this is my first time on your viedo awesome review i really didn’t like these double necks but they look nice and play nice i may have to save up and get one thank you odin is an awesome name for a cat by the way
Hi finaljesus…thanks for watching and commenting! Nice that you have found the channel and enjoyed the video. By all means have a look around the channel, lots to see!! Thanks again for stopping in and Odin and I appreciate it! 🎸👍
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Cool, Jesse Colin Young and skating around that demonitized thing nice
🤣🤣
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Daniel!! I had to go back and delete my incorrect chord, non capo, wrong strum pattern version of H.C. as the Eagle “Don’s” and the TH-cam algorithm still hit it with their ridiculous copyright infringement. Oh well….at least J.C.Y and the Youngbloods still have a sense of humor for a guitar demo…appreciate your stopping in to the channel!! 🎸👍
Animals are the BEST ❤❤🙏💯🙌🙌👏👏
Hi Mike…thanks so much for watching and commenting…truly appreciate it. Much thanks…🙏🎸👍
thanks
My pleasure…thanks for stopping in! 🎸👍
Very nice!
Thanks papa…much appreciated! 🎸👍
I built one from a kit. it is awesome.
That’s great Steve!! Appreciate your stopping into the channel and sharing! 🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 I'm old and retired. raised 3 kids, and 1 grand kid. money is tight, so I have to save up for a kit to build. the double neck was the first one,( Agatha), I built. two for one, kinda idea. I have since built two strat style guitars, and 1-12 string telecaster type. I got my copy of Rocksmith last week. When I were young, I had the money. but no time. Now I have time, and no money. :) My granddaughter, is a musician and music teacher. I used to get equipment for her, and tune her guitars, but never had the time to learn. I'm having a good time with it. my trades in life, airframes mech, computer tech, woodworker. Loved the video.
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Glad you enjoyed it Steve…old and retired?? Hmmm…that sounds familiar 😎
Awesome video
Thanks Amin! Appreciate it…🎸👍
Stairway To Heaven
Hotel California
Nothing Else Matters
Knocking On Heavens Door (GnR)
Hi Baz…thanks so much for watching and commenting. “A Hard Day’s Night”, “Eight Miles High”….😎
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“More Than A Feeling”, “Closer To The Heart”
I'll give it to you, this would be waaay too much for me.
Thanks for stopping in Pop’s….appreciate it! 🎸👍
My chiropractor loves this guitar...
And I love the price and sound
Actually, it’s not really that bad in the weight department…easily doable for a 3 song set (unextended versions)…😎
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Appreciate your stopping into the channel…🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 I play slide in open tunings and rhytm guitar in standard tuning, so maybe I need 2 necks...
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Well, there ya go! You could tune the 6 string to “open” whatever, and the 12 for that lush rhythm…🎸👍
show me where to buy it
Hi Dan…thanks for stopping in! All Firefly Guitars are sold in their website at www.guitarsgarden.com
If you don’t see it listed there, then is currently not in stock and sold out!
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Just double checked the web site and they currently have the “RED” finish double neck 4/6 still in stock, but no 6/12’s currently.
Yeah, and the mongrels don't make a left handed. I believe that is discrimination!
Hi Mark…they didn’t make a lot of this right handed version either…with this type of “niche” instrument it would have been tough for a small company like Firefly to produce left-handed versions as they probably be setting on the inventory. It’s unfortunate, but left handed guitars simply don’t sell enough units to make it profitable for a small company. Appreciate your stopping in to the channel and sharing your thoughts. 🎸👍
Yeah because so many people play electric 12 strings. Not
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Just pointing out that this is a well made, budget option for those who always wanted to add one to the arsenal but couldn’t justify the price for a niche instrument. Thanks for stopping into the channel…🎸👍
Doublenecks can be fun guitars if someone with brain matter throws out the stereotypes and learns the rules on using it. No, it’s not just for playing “Stairway”. No, it’s not wise to make it your lone guitar for a set. Yes, you might look cool playing it, but if you only use one neck, you’re a phony. And finally, anyone can play one, especially if being seated with it is not a crime in your book. Lose the stereotypes.
Thanks for watching and stopping in!! Guitar’s are for playing….👍👍