How to Get Perfect Miter Joints + Make a Frame
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- Here are some tips on getting perfect miter joints for your woodworking projects. I also make a frame showing you how to cut nice clean miter cuts. Facebook: / 312021729836
Website: jonpeters.com/
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It's 2017, and this technique improved my cuts ten fold. The sacrificial fence is amazing on keeping your cuts precise and clean.
Using a sacrificial fence makes a HUGE difference when cutting miters! Thank you so much for the tip!!
Glad it helped and I agree.
These videos are helping me so much to figure out how to frame my paintings! Thank you!
Thanks for the link to the sacrificial fence. Lining up the cut to meet exactly where the blade is always something of an adventure for me. This is not only simpler but easy.
I saw the painting and instantly recognized Mt Mansfield. I've driven past that very barn a dozen times. Very nice frame for a very nice painting!
That’s awesome! ... I love Rett’s paintings. Amazing light
so I am just now watching this 8 year old video. This looks terrific and is certainly something I will try soon. I will say I love the USAF painting you have hanging in the house as well. That is absolutely amazing!
Thnx! What I found to be important: for each piece of molding, cut one side with the saw in the left 45 deg stop and the other side with the saw in the right 45 deg stop. Then, if the saw is not exactly square, the errors cancel out at each corner. (provided the 45 deg stops are at exactly 90 deg relative to eachother.)
I must agree with Stephen Dickinson about the " Relaxed Manor" of your videos. I step away from this Video Jon, with much more confidence to tackle making picture frames on my own. Your videos are well lit and the audio is clear. I liked the face frame idea very much. I have traveled through Vermont many times and the painting itself truly represents a typical Vermont scene. Very nice work on the frame Jon.
I love that painting! I always find it amazing what that slight 7 degree angle does for the piece aesthetically.
Nicely done. Thanks for the clever tip on hanging oily rags!
Hey Jon. I don't think I have ever commented on any of your videos, but I wanted to tell you that I really enjoy the content you put out. Keep up the good work.
Thanks man I appreciate it
Nicely Done And Great Idea Putting The Rag Out To Air Out Before Properly Dispose 👍🏼
Nicely done and it did not even take a lot of time... thanx for sharing.
What a wonderful painting good job on the frame
Thanks Jon. Another well made informative video. I really like your relaxed manor of videos.
Thanks Stephen
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+Ronaldo Santos i was fine until "lord of walking dead"...
Really fun to watch your videos and very well explain what you do.
Thank you
That tablesaw blade sounds sharp! Nice project!
Thanks Randy
Really enjoyed this video, nice finished product.
Thanks for posting.
Thanks Scott
Really nice frame Jon. You make it look so easy.
Thanks Bill
Thank you. You make it look so easy.
thank you
Ok, you make the inner frame then cut the outer pieces to fit. I glue them together before measuring anything to be cut to length, then only have to cut the lengths once, for both parts. This also has the added benefit of making them totally trimmed to one another in one pass. I also make a rebate for the plywood molding to fit into, then glue it inside the frame, recessed so there will be nothing to see on either side. This also makes that part of the frame twice as strong, and it also give you a better way to either clamp it, or nail it, screw it... from the bottom. You can add corner braces (45 triangles) in the corner for extra bracing to lift the painting up a bit, or add them to the backside, to hold it off the wall.
Looks great. I think one day I will definitely give this one a try. Thanks a lot for sharing.
cool thanks Jo Jo
Thats exactly what i wanted to do with my exterior window frames. I have so much trouble on my miter saw... I have make jigs for my table saw. Great looking frame
I love the work done. Thanks for sharing the video
Nice frame! I still haven't tried making a floating frame like that - must have a go!
Thanks Steve
ficou muito bom,,, trabalho de primeira qualidade,otimo acabamento ...sou do BRAZIL linguage portugues
Thank you Ronaldo
No explanation on how... just a video of you doing. Either way, you did a phenomenal job.
I've got to master the miter.
It just dawned on me that my 12" saw probably has too much drift. I may try the smaller chop saw.
Love the painting and the frame! You should check out Tim Gagnon's art he is a Maine artist. Stunning paintings. No one does clouds and skies like Tim.
Thank you for posting, beautiful work.
Wow! That's awesome. Thanks so much for sharing your work!
Great video. The first of yours I have watched. Looks like I have some catching up to do!
I really like you and your works, many thanks...
Love this frame!! I have a large canvas print I plan to frame exactly like this! Thanks for sharing!
Keep up the good work...look forward to more great content from you!!
Nice. I haven't seen a frame/back like that before. I like. That rag is never going to dry ;)
I was thinking the same thing about the rag...LOL! It might freeze though LOL! if it was BLO there is no chance or Spontaneous Combustion out there.
Jorge Araujo Believe it or not- if it is cold enough material DOES freeze dry! My Mom used to do that all the time in the winter when they had no dryer but only when it was REALLY cold- otherwise the house was full of clothes line..... ***smile***
Lol that rag will be rock solid in a matter of minutes!
ha ha : ) yeah I just thought it was a cool shot , it's cool that so many got it
Nice vid. So a couple guys at work did not believe me about oily rags and almost burned the whole shop down. I grew up knowing they can combust and how those 2 guys, one 25 the other 38, did not know or believe me is mind boggling.
Very nice frame design Jon, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Tommy
No fire hazard, good job!
for sure, Thanks David
Great video. Could you kindly share if there is a way to make the same frame with hand tools? Thank You 👍🙏🏻
Were the plywood joints in the frame (4 corners) just glued together? It seems sturdy, so I'm curious how it worked.
Great video Jon, again :) Thank you for sharing, your tips are very helpful.
Thanks Sam
Exactly. There's a difference between knowing how and explaining how. Explaining is harder.
Hi Jon. Great video as always. In it I got a glimpse of your compressor. Would you please talk about what compressor you use with your nail gun in your next video. Thanks
Thanks Roman, sure it's a bostitch and I'll try to get a short video up soon.
*****
Oh man I'm so excited you replied. Thanks Jon.
By the way, love your videos.Very inspiring!!
Thanks for your reply!!!!
Ecellant work as always
Thanks Thomas
Outstanding work.
I have a ryobi chop saw that seems to slide a bit when I tighten the knob for my cut angle. I can't get it to an exact 45 degree cut. It also doesn't have a positive stop at 45 degrees. Is your saw exactly accurate with 45's. If I buy a different saw will I be able to make accurate 45's?
Another great video John! One question - you brought it up at the very end of your video, the squareness of the painting - did you check the squareness of the canvas by measuring the diagonals?
What a beautiful shot of Mt. Mansfield from what looks like the Johnson/ Jefferson side?
You are spot on James, the title of the painting is , The Other Side. good eye my friend.
I live in Essex and know that side from snowmobiling. Absolutely love that photo!
Hi James, My wife grew up in Essex. Laurel Bissonette, maybe you know her brother Joe.
sangat membantu,, terima kasih jon
Thank you
You have NO IDEA the nightmare I've had making a frame with a 1/4 gap just like this one. Oh lordy how I wish I had seen this video a few days ago. 😖
Thanks for the comment I’m glad the video was helpful!
With easybore screws in back of faceframe you can avoid nails seen from side of frame. (Corners nailed thru top and bottom only)
Jon do you something about the Brad holes?
Jon, this will probably sound silly to you but I’m quite frustrated with making simple 45 degree cut on the miter saw. Trying to make picture frames but I never end up with really tight seams when I put it together. I always seem to have 1 that has slight gap otherwise marring a pretty good project. Got any tips, pointers. Words of wisdom please? How about a video on the subject please. Sounds pretty simple but obviously it's not.. At least you make it look simple.(g)
Thanks.
I'm having the same issues right now. Some problems that I've noticed in my own work:
1. Work surface isn't completely flat. Makes the joints want to take on weird angles. I'm experimenting with ways to lift the frame off of my work surface to get it perpendicular with gravity.
2. Tiny, tiny differences in the lengths of the parallel sides. Happens to me most often when I'm trying to cut the miters. Makes one miter joint look like it's being forced apart. A stop block is probably the best solution. I've been trying to clamp both sides together and run them both through the table saw at the same time.
Great video as always Jon!
Thank you
Nice video thanks but I have the worst luck cutting 45 for frames, every time they just don’t go together like yours,it drives me crazy, I guess just keep practicing and I’ll get it
how do you check your miter saw for accuracy?
Hi Jon, I'm making a similar floating frame, and I'm curious if you think it could be done without nails using only glue. I don't have a nailgun unfortunately, but I would consider buying one if you think the frame will lack strength. Thanks!
Exceptional, Thanks!!
Thank you so much. I think I could do this.
Nice frame. Quick question on the final side measurement.. did you measure & cut the last 2 pieces at the same time, or install 3 and measure the final piece after the other 3 were on?
Thanks,
Enjoyed it, Jon!
Thanks Steve
Nice video and like the very obvious safety measures; mask, glasses, pushsticks, moving fingers away in obvious way. Thanks for making
Hey Jon...I really like your videos. I'm now subscribed.
Thanks Dan...appreciate it
What do you use or prefer to fill the nail holes with?
Excellent video! what finish did you use?
what kind of nail gun/nails do you recommend for this?
After I stain, I leave the rag out to dry but in the garage. should I leave it outside to dry? Stupid question, but I'm a newbie :0)
Thanks , I would just to play it safe
Nice belt! Way to take advice Jon! lol.
ha : ) yeah, I thought Grant would have chimed in by now. thanks man
You free-handed the angle line with the pencil. Is there a mathematical way to measure and draw the angle?
Great video! What wood and finish did you use on the outside frame?
John, is there a reason why you install the molding around the face frame, and not over the face frame, other than the bevel on the molding ? Does it make the whole assembly more rigid ? I'm planning to build a float frame and my original plan was to attach the molding through the back of the face frame. Then I remembered your video and after seeing your design, I'm wondering if it's a good idea ! :D Thanks !
+Thomas The reason the molding is attached to the face frame on the out side rather than on top of is because it covers up the edge ply of the plywood and is visually more appealing for the slope of the molding.
Makes sense ! Thanks.
Great video, Jon. Earned you a sub from me...one question I had...What were you using to clean off the squeeze out when you glued the mitres together? It looked like some kind of oil or spirit on the rag...noticing it didn't affect the stain, I'd love to know what your secret is there coz I have a nightmare with glue clean up constantly. Keep up the great work, love your channel.
+mike iannella Thanks Mike, its just water, I always clean up the glue squeeze out with water. There will be a good example in this Saturday's video. Thanks
yes
Jon - I know it's been awhile since this project posted, but do you recall what stain color you used?
+Mary Henn minwax walnut
Any particular reason why you're wearing a respirator? I could understand that if you were working on PT wood, but otherwise?
Walnut dust is a respiratory irritant...better safe than sorry.
Hi Jon! Nice vids. One question: why do you sometimes make the support frame first and other times the outside frame? Hope u see this :)
Great job tnx you very much. May I ask how do you attach the paintings to the frame? Again I admire your craft and talent.
Clearly you didn't watch the beginning of the video...
Hey Jon, great video. I always learn something new when watching your videos. Keep up the good work! Q: What wood and stain did you use?
Thanks Jason, sepele wood and walnut stain
What gauge nails did you shoot?
That was a great video, Jon. I have a question- why did you take off the 7 degrees of wood? Is that a design feature? I have not seen you do that on the smaller frames.
Thanks Mo, yes it's a design feature
***** Thank you for your reply. You do wonderful work. I should now- I have one of your frames!
What kind of wood and what stain color did you use?
+Christina Jenkins Sapele wood with walnut stain
Ok, thanks!
are you using brad nails to attach the frame to the plywood?
yes
***** Do you worry about the holes left behind by the brad nails?
no not really, they are small and I fill them
Cool, I was actually trying to see if you use filler or not.
Jon, as always I take so much away from your videos!
Aside from the obvious answer of "what the customer wants" lol, can you help me with the thought process behind using a wood like sapele and then staining that dark walnut? I'm definitely a rookie but sapele is a bit harder than walnut but to me there's just something amazing about walnut that a stained different species just doesn't quite capture...granted, that's from my extremely limited experience lol.
I tried to see if this was asked/answered already but didn't see anything and as I'm experimenting a lot lately with finishes for different hardwoods I'm all ears:).
what kind of paint are you use for the touch of natural lines?
I would like to do it few projects in UK and would like to find right material nerby if posiblle
Thanks and great job man!
Thanks man, not sure about the lines question
I just would like to find out what kind of paint are you use for the wood work. I can see that the looks of the natural lines on the surface is done by small cloth. Is that all or this must be the special paint? Sorry for confusion.
thats ok the lines come from the wood grain and the wood stain is walnut by minwax, hope that helps
Yeap thank you ;)
Great video John... 1 question... what are the little felt pads on your nailer?
He has answered already - they were put on to stop the tool scratching an expensive floor that he fitted ,for when he put the nailer down while he was working
Ispanis
How do I get cuts this accurate on a miter saw?!
That's what I was here for... left knowing nothing more than when I came here.
This is why he flips the molding upside down to cut the opposite side of the miter from the first cut, and then cut both sides of the miters on the same side of the saw blade. That way, even if it's not a perfect 45, the angles would still total 90*. Like if it's set at 44.5, when you cut both on the same side but upsidedown, the resulting cut is 45.5, totaling 90. Alternatively, you could make a shooting board, if you have a hand plane. Cut the wood close on the miter saw, then use a shooting board with a 45 degree fence to clean up the miters and get them to bang-on 45 degrees.
Nice sir
Why did you not take out the corners?
Did mine out of oak and burned it a little, then cleared over it with a satin poly. Muah!
Also, wheres the link to the fence?
Step 1) have a full wood shop including several thousand dollars worth of equipment
Great tips. What wood did you use?
sepele wood and walnut stain
Maybe a silly question. Why put the stained rag on the hose hanger
+Bill Spring If it has linseed oil in it and it's in a wad it can start a fire.
+Pulse2AM ahh yes! Combustible. Unless you have a safety can like in old shop classes
how would you join these without "biscuit joints" ?
that momment when the painting just get in to the frame
The 3 min. 40 sec. area, reaching your arm over the saw blade, not good. Be careful.
Dam, wish I could make corners like that....
I C DEM SKATEBOARDS!!