When I was in college, the frats and sororities forced pledges to run naked from their houses to a statue in the middle of campus as part of the initiation process. This was relayed to me by an older janitor, who told me with an extremely creepy grin that it was his favorite night of the year. That alone was enough of a reason for me to steer very clear of all that.
@@DeathnoteBB Federal? Usually that kind of thing is left to the states, fedbois are usually too lazy to "violate the constitution" (as in, the literal letter) unless there is or was some concerted effort to do so (Afaik, it's supposed to be unconstitutional for the federal government to make any laws that deal with anything that wasn't explicitly authorized by the constitution)
I live in Europe and I heard there's a similar "tradition" where I live. We have this thing where we collect badges and in one city you can get a special badge if you run naked around a statue in the middle of the night. You can get another badge if you also take the bus while you're naked, smh.
Hazing is definitely still a problem. Recently a kid that went to my highschool was found dead in his dorm after a cruel hazing process. The school hasn’t done much about it because they don’t think it was foul play. His name is Luke Tyler, and he was trying to join the Theta Chi fraternity in WSU. If anyone can help spread the word it would mean everything to Luke and everyone who loved him.
Reach out to Kendall Rae! She covers cases like this & will feature the family if they are willing or interested. Or Stephanie Harlowe. It’s kinda insane that these things happen directly related to hazing and anyone considers it less than foul play…
a classmate of mine in high school (also the son of my psychology teacher) died very suspiciously during our first semester of college. It was around the time of Rush at his college, but what happened is he somehow got out into the middle of nowhere down one of the interstates, like really between towns out in a swampier area. Reports came in that there was someone wandering down the interstate at 2am and soon after, he laid down in the middle of the interstate and was run over. Whether he fell asleep or passed out, we never found out. I will never forget that as long as I live, the investigation into his death never went public. All of my graduating class suspected it was a hazing ritual - to drop him off drunk in the middle of nowhere and make him walk back. Florida Southern College, we haven't forgotten. We miss you, Wil.
University student here- Hazing is STILL a huge problem. The reason that it may not be as broadcasted anymore is because the university is most likely trying to cover up the fact that these problems are even happening because I remember getting the fliers when I was applying saying how great greek life is, even though I had heard of the horrible stories that others had. People are still being pressured into extreme alcoholism, and with social media where it is currently, I don't see this stopping anytime soon. And its not like greek life can just shut down, because GOD FORBID the school has to lose some money to investigate these sorts of things. I am a huge introvert with social anxiety so I knew greek life wouldn't be for me from the start but I am beyond glad looking back now that I never had any interest. People have lost their lives due to this nonsense and as a result this whole lifestyle needs to be taken down a ton of notches. It consistently irks me that these situations keep happening and yet nothing is being done about them.
The university system is a filtering apparatus for the satanic illuminati. Not Satan as in the being but Satan as the concept of the worship of the egoic will over service to others. These are the people who run your "higher" institutions.
You're so right. I went to a smaller college in the US, and it was a problem there, too. I heard that there are more whistleblowers coming forward since graduating, but it's bad. And it's everywhere.
Recently finished college, but my experience was pretty reasonable. I'm pretty sure my school is an exception, but just wanted to put some good info out.
there's social psychology research explaining why hazing makes people actually want to stay. The harder it is to get something, the more you want it. It's kind of like a sunk cost fallacy. Hazing is also not unique to Greek life. The process of getting into a PhD is quite similar: you have to be exploited as a lab assistant before you even get a shot at acceptance to a program, and then whatever program you get in is a gamble whether the PI will treat you with respect or just make you get coffee for senior researchers at 3am.
My social psychology class said that cognitive dissonance also may play a part of why people stay. If you are being basically tortured and your mind can't think of a good reason to put up with it, it will just decide that the sorority or frat is just that good. Or something like that. Sorry if I didn't explain it well
When my mom was getting a PhD, she had to prepare feast for almost 50 people. She was making dished for days and her friends and our family was trying to help her. She also has to bring food to the place she was making presentation for. It was so unnecessary.
@@thesealky6445 She was studying education in nursing. Hence, it was completely unrelated. She had to do a presentation for her oral examination. To be fair, she could've prepared less food and still pass.
Somewhat similar for getting a VMD: you have to pay to basically be free labor during your senior year clinical rotations. Some rotations work you 100 hours a week. Asking professors questions often results in an annoyed "there's a list of resources for you to consult on the course webpage" response, which is basically just a fancy way of saying "google it". Professors will refuse to tell you what they expect of you until the last minute, then take off points if you try to explain that you can't get to a farm an hour away at 6 am tomorrow morning because you're required to be in surgery tonight until 9 pm. And they wonder why we have mental health problems in the veterinary profession.
The hazing is so cynical and f-ed up. If I could be in charge of a sorority I would have us have a fun bake-off and then a bonfire and playing games or set up an obstacle course, something like that or learn jujitsu moves! Aggh so many better things to do than this horrendous tradition that humiliates people. Also, totally not thirsting over Emily’s hair in this video… heh
Literally just got out a sorority frat that did things military style... I'm asthmatic and passed out twice... they shook me awake and I ran back into the formation with a ventolin. They became racist, xenophobic and homophobic as the night went on. This was monday I left yesterday.
2 things, 1. The sorority I rushed for didn't let me in because of my low GPA which wasn't even my fault because my roommate gave me covid and I was quarantined during finals week. So I completely missed all of my winter finals. The leaders of the sorority refused to hear me out and just said better luck next year. 2. All frats at my tiny private liberal college have to have a member of public safety hang around during rush because of a hazing accident when a boy was forced to run down the street naked holding fire crackers. The fire crackers exploded and blasted one of his eyes out.
@@10lauren46 they still have rules and, unless they are a hyper local chapter, a national org to answer to. Sororities operate off bylaws, typically, and if there was no exemption written in their hands are tied.
That GPA thing sounds like the school's problem, not the sorority's. It's really cruel of the school for not allowing you to make up finals if you have covid. I thought all schools allow makeups if you're sick so as not to encourage students to go to class and get everyone else sick. I guess mine is just one of the good ones for their sick leave makeup policy.
American schools in general are usually such a culture shock to me. What I hear and see in movie portrayals is crazy. The extreme bullying, school shooting, teen interactions...
I mean, those _are_ movie portrayals. Americans themselves are usually some degree of shocked to amused bc of such graphic portrayals. There might be some truth in them, but often heavily dramatized.
@@Chichichihuahua euphoria wasn't actually too far off from things that actually happened in my town and high school. I feel like a lot of the TV shows about America are a pretty good representation of somewhere in America just not everywhere.
@@serenityssolaceMany fraternities have Greek mottos which they use as the initials for their organization. For example, one of the earliest examples of Greek letter fraternities is ΦΒΚ, whose motto is «Φιλοσοφία βίου κυβερνήτης» Because of this, it’s become common practice for fraternities to name themselves after the initials of a secret Greek motto.
11:49 I was in a sorority in college and now a semi-active alum. However, the sororities mentioned here were social sororities (the ones associated with having housing) whereas mine was a service sorority. So mine is going to be different regardless. When I started as a prospective candidate, we just had to look through this like, 8 page packet of the warning signs on hazing. And then the rest of the packet was examples of types of hazing. (It had every example of hazing you could think of, plus some.) It also mentioned the school's rules for greek life, like how a prospective candidate had to have 6 hours of uninterrupted sleep/no meetings could be held between midnight and 6am. (And other rules like that.) Since we were also tied to a Dept within the school, that dept had their own rules for greek life within the dept. So it was a super long stack of papers that we signed. I did not have a single issue with my chapter tbh. We were pretty small and everyone was chill. There was no hazing, nobody was humiliated. It was a good time. Is my sorority perfect? No. But this is also my experience in a sorority.
Honestly this should be the standard everywhere! It sucks that grown men/women need such basic rules and regulations enforced so heavily, but history has shown us some students just can't be trusted.
I saw a guy from a very respected UC while I didn’t go to the college. He joined a frat and the hazing was a lot different. Mandatory workout hours with photo proof, and shaming about which girls they decided to hook up with if they weren’t “hot” enough. And like he needed signatures from other brothers so basically he had to buy them lunch or do what they asked until they’d sign.
Oh, so that's what it's calling in english? In Brasil, this is a really big problem, or at least used to be when I was in college (nearly.... 10 years ago... My god, I'm old). The thing though is that down here, it's not limited to anyone who wants to go to a certain group, but anyone who got into the college course at all. And the harder it was to get into said course, the more aggressive the hazing is. For example, I went to college for animation. Barely no competition for it down here, so the hazing was very lighthearted. It was voluntary and with no pressure to participate, and they just rubbed some washable paint on us, made us walk around campus holding hands in a weird way, do some spins, make a silly little oath full of inside jokes we would only get once classes actually started, and then pick a random gift from the pile. It was fun, light hearted, and I have fond memories of that night. But once you look hazings at courses like medicine, nursing, engineering and law, they can get traumatizing and dangerous. Just looking up now to see if it was still a big thing, I saw the news of a hazing on medicine students this year that involved physical abuse and sexual harassment. And even though such hazings are illegal and against the college's policies, anyone who complains and reports on the veteran's behavior is killing their social life. It's horrifying, really. Reading the whole thing is disgusting, specially when you remember these are future doctors.
Similar in Thailand, really. I did my undergrad in science, and the initiations were quite friendly albeit literally messy with mud and stuffs, but that was it. However, engineering, nursing, medicine, or some other faculties tend to have tougher activities more resembling hazing in the US. I do wonder how many f-up things are being accepted because "it's our tradition".
Hazing always felt so unreal to me? Like why would people ever basically force a person to suffer just to join a club? That just makes zero sense to me. I know people who have burns and scars from their hazing experiences, and the worst part is that most of them didn't even realize that was horrible until recently. One of them even told me after I told him I felt sorry for him since his entire leg is covered in a large scar from his hazing "But it was so funny!"
Greek Life Hazing has always been really interesting to me because my school’s Greek Life is AGGRESSIVELY anti-hazing, especially my sorority. There’s little an online form to report hazing attempts. I know it happens but it’s so unfamiliar to me
bro my cousin is in a frat and he almost died from alcohol poisoning after he had to gallop around in a diaper on a stick horse while drinking a whole bottle of vodka
ik my brother wanted to join a fraternity and stopped when they told him to eat cat food and a raw onion. it was supposedly to make everyone feel “bonded” together. he had to sign a waiver saying that he wasn’t allowed to tell anyone about their methods of hazing
I am French and I think sorority/frat community and everything have always been the greatest mystery of American culture for me (because no other country seems to have it) edit: apparently I was wrong and many countries share this part of mystery ;) this is very educating !
There were fraternities at my college once upon a time. They disbanded when I was a freshman because of a sexual assault scandal and subsequent student outrage. Now the closest thing we have to a frat here is the sci fi club, which has the formal name of "Psi Phi (not a frat)"
Imagine a Greek life that asks for a formal interview process with three references and a personal essay. Now that is some real emotional and psychological torment 😂
I’m in a sorority in Canada and had a super positive experience - nothing like this ever happened they just like wrote letters about how much they liked us and gave us gifts and stuff. It’s insane hearing about some of these things happening in some groups like what the f that is a literal crime
how it works here is you sign up if you’re interested then over 2 weeks you do « speed dating » with the different sororities and then you pick each other based on mutual selection. After you get your house there is bid day where there’s a theme and you get a t shirt and then the girls who are in it usually will give gifts to their « littles » so you get paired up with an older member who is supposed to be your mentor and who makes plans with you to make sure you feel welcomed in the group. The gift part is optional but it is the norm.
Here in my home country, we have an Anti-hazing law that was implemented in the mid 1990s. The law makes hazing among the frats/sorority illegal, which makes sense cuz there were a lot of deaths by it up to the point that some frats/sorority and the school were accused/sent to the court. Though there ARE few cases of deaths by hazing in this time, sadly there was a hazing incident last year in one of the universities in my home city that even made it to news and social media.
As someone who isn’t from America I am genuinely surprised that this actually exists. I thought it was a myth made up by Hollywood and I am so sorry to Americans that this is not, in fact, the case.
People, please, have some respect for yourselves. You should never have to subject yrself to any kind of mistreatment to "prove" yr worthy of something or someone. Anyone who says otherwise has control issues and you should run far away.
At first, I was very confused and thought this had something to do with Greece, but it set in after a bit lol. It's great that you're bringing up this stuff! Love your videos btw
During my college's orientation an older student explained to us freshman that hazing was banned on campus and these kids who looked like the most stereotypical frat boys and sorority girls were like "WHAT! Are you guys allowed to have any fun here?" I was like dude really? Do you want to be tortured by people who you'll have to spend time with for years? And every year I hear stories about kids dying or permanently harmed by hazing rituals
i remember when my dad told me he was in a frat in college. I was very confused and a bit worried, but it turns out he was in a nerd frat. the initiation got as intense as people in cloaks standing around cult style ,to initiate a new member. just a bit of spooky fun. the only reason why it ever goes further than that is sadism I presume
In India, we had this similar concept of "ragging" until a few years ago, which apparently happened to most people joining college. But after some violent incidents, the govt set up an anti-ragging helpline number and laws against it. So now you almost never hear about it.
A guy I went to school with from 8-12th grade was killed in a hazing accident just a couple years ago within a year of graduating which inspired Virginia to change its laws (named "adam's law" after him), but the other kids weren't held accountable, at least in a way that really affected them. It's disgusting and unacceptable.
I'm not sure how many have heard of Matt's Law in California, but I went to High School (my year) with Matt Carrington. I know people generally don't speak ill of the dead, but in Matt's case, he really was the nicest guy I've ever known. I don't think he'd ever said an unkind word to or about anyone.
I literally just joined a sorority and they have a big policy against hazing and had some meetings about. I’m very thankful for it bc it just reaffirmed that I picked the right one
i personally was never involved in greek life but a woman from my college graduating class made a podcast detailing her experience in a sorority and it was so interesting (it's called snapped by lucy taylor, i would highly recommend!) she wasn't necessarily hazed but she went through a lot of really awful things and exposed a lot of the exclusionary practices (and just generally fucked up stuff that goes on) in historically white sororities at many different universities across the u.s.
my main issue of hazing is the lack of consent. most if not all i have seen have been without knowing what it was, then it's something horrid they wouldn't have done if they had known.
No better source for an accurate depiction of the Fraternity experience than a female non-member reading online rumors and presenting them as factual and representative. Our pledges worked our events, ran errands, and had compulsory library study hall and gym. The horror! It was less than 2 months, and it was insane how you’d see a fat shy kid enter and leave in shape with confidence and friends. It’s almost as if learning to deal with discomfort and new situations leads to development. Paying hella money for friends? I was a scholarship kid who busted my ass in the summer and had no problem paying 800$ a semester out of my own pocket. Where does that money go? Managing a property/bills, parties, intramural sports… etc. Outgoing seniors are the bad cops for pledges, sophomores and juniors who you’re gonna hang with don’t mistreat you. See? Almost like there’s method to the madness.
Student here current in a womens music fraternity: hazing is usually a "social" frat/sorority problem. The ones who actually serve a purpose, for example my fraternity donates a lot to help schools with music, scholarships, and doing service projects in the community in general. We do not haze, and I remember joining being a very pleasant experience. One of my sisters who joined with me had left a social sorority where she was badly hazed the previous semester. The other music fraternities on campus do not haze, nor do the other arts groups. its literally the ones that cost an arm and a leg each month to join and serve no purpose other than being a friend group that haze.
Honestly it’s a weird concept but most people do it to get a good college story. I was never hazed going through the process of joining my sorority I think the worst thing they did was telling me I wasn’t putting enough time in the educational period but going into it I kept thinking if I get hazed it’ll be an interesting story 😭 but also pledge-ship in my sorority changed a lot my big in the sorority has some pretty traumatic stories so hazing is very much real I was just lucky enough it never happened to me.
Yanno, as someone who would never join a sorority in her life, it gives me some weird inner peace knowing that a lot of the girls who bullied me then went on to their big name schools and sororities may have been subject to worse horrors than they put me through. Like I am in therapy trying to get past my insecurities, but they might have had literal piss dumped on their heads. At least I can say that and sleep at night not knowing what that feels like 🥰
I’m currently in Greek life and I can say that at least at my school and chapter, hazing is extremely looked down upon. Some states have laws against it too. I haven’t seen hazing activity at my school and no one would dare to really because the consequences are much more serious on todays campuses. Can’t speak for all schools, but mine is super serious and anti hazing. Literally had to take a course on how to spot hazing and what you should do in the event of a haze. Couldn’t even join without taking the course.
I graduated from a small US college in 2014. I joined the 'chill' fraternity whose reputation was very anti-hazing and lived by it, but it wasn't always like that with that group. I didn't have any intentions to join GL, but I got along with the group pretty well and that's where most of my friends were anyway. My overall experience was interesting, enough shares of both good and bad, but there was zero hazing in my own group. I've heard that it exists in a handful of other groups in my campus, both during my time and on an ongoing basis. I have several lifelong friends that I've made through my experience. Some of them would've been my friends regardless, and others were through circumstances that my membership allowed for me.
We have this also in Belgium and I always thought it was weird but a few years ago I think 2; A boy died during the hazing because they made him drink a litter of fish oil (which in itself isn't uncommon only not that much). They also peed on him what was a tradition in that sorority (and what for some reason is a legal thing to do). They also made him drink lots of alcohol and made him eat a dead rat and tapped off the water so that he couldn't drink anything other than the fish oil. His name is Sanda Dia if you want to look it up.
A bit late. But I want to add that the boy was black and the mostly white boys who did this to him got off with only community service and a fine they could easily pay. Oh, and the only poc (a black boy to be specific) in the fraternity got the nickname Rafiki from the other frat boys.
Went to undergrad at one of the big “party schools.” Attempted to rush my sophomore year. Went to some parties as a potential rushee and talked to the current members. I just couldn’t vibe with any of them. They could barely hold a conversation, and when i asked them what they liked to do and how they spent their time, I consistently got a blank stare or some combo of weed, drinking, and sometimes the gym. No hobbies, no clubs, nothing. Left real quick and found some actual people in clubs i liked.
I didn't go to those types of colleges, but I'm pretty sure those types of hazing still happens at the major ivy league colleges because they're all richy riches and they can get away with it.
@@notthatcreativewithnames Yeah. That's what I could find the words for.... Legacy students being legacy pledges and perpetuating elitism.... Family tradition.... Your grandfather.... BLAH BLAH BLAH. Whyte supremacy and rayssism as a whole is perpetuated by tradition, too.
Some of the stories of hazing that has gone on are so mind boggling, I cannot imagine who the people that actually come up with these things are like. How sick and sadistic do you have to be to want to do that to another person? It’s down right criminal behavior. Somehow they garner these groups around them because of the title and exclusivity, but if you ask me these people should be FAR away from others if they think what they’re doing is justified. They need to be locked up, they’re sick.
my brother went to uni a few years ago, and he told me alot about how his frat, they made him drink alot and then he passed out (he never drunk before) and they put him in a little forest nexdt to the uni and made him walk back , he said he was lost there for about a day before they had to call the police , i personally reported the frat leaders and we got him to a new uni , cuz he was scared by just looking at the uni signs , sorry that happened you you bro , ly
My rugby team did hazing for the rookies, but it was FUN. Like one thing we had to do was choreograph a goofy ass dance and perform it for the seniors together so they could post it on social media, another hazing activity was we had to dress up like sewer rats and run around campus looking for scavenger hunt items and figure out how to get to the main rugby house before the time ran out, and then there was little stuff the newbies had to do like set up the rugby field and clean it up every practice. It was harmless, goofy stuff that never put anyone in harms way. If someone was really stressed out by it, they didn’t have to do it. But it was easy to do because all of us were in it together, and it helped us bond as a team. That’s what I think “hazing” really SHOULD be. Healthy bonding as a group, and you get to have a bit of fun along the way. Something to look back on and laugh at.. It should NOT be an excuse for people to get away with enacting their cruel sadistic fantasies and power trips. And if someone does not consent, it should always be respected
(quick note: in australia, we have university. college is what we calll the sorority/frat house thing) while my college has literally no hazing (like i mean literally nothing - the most we did was drink tomato sauce and even that was voluntary) i know that it's still pretty present at other colleges, some more than others. i had an alumn tell me that when she was at college one of her friends from another college had his ear cut off during hazing. actually horrifying
Something no one talks about is that the frat bro culture of extreme sexual violence and insults is trauma. And that trauma contributes the the attitude men have where they downplay the severity of sexual violence and mean spirited “jokes”. When women tell stories of being catcalled they shrug it off bc they went through way worse with their frat but it was all fun n games. So how could being yelled at on the street be a big deal? You see what i mean.
In my country it’s allowed to drink alcohol with low percentage at 16. I feel like now at uni, people know their limits pretty well. Ofc many don’t listen to it but still many do and just know how much exactly they want to drink.
I'm German and when I started my first year at university there were already several people who said they had no interest in the parties students held because they already felt they did enough of that. I don't drink alcohol and don't like parties and never felt any pressure to start, which I'm glad about.
@@Tessa_Gr I can relate to that. I drink sometimes but it is never to a point where I feel sick or can’t remember anything…sometimes I stick to soft drinks too
I'm so glad that I'm not in college and have no interest in joining a sorority. I'm self diagnosed autistic, so I'm pretty sure if I was being hazed and it was anything close to this, I would a complete meltdown so bad that I would probably get into my first ever fight and when the meltdown subsided; it would develop into a shutdown that would last a very long time. After finally processing all the trauma from the hazing, I would leave that sorority and never try to join one ever again.
a 20 year old guy named Sanda Dia was killed by a fraternity and none of them faced any jailtime because the members from the fraternity came from wealthy families.
As a Greek, born and raised in Greece, I have no idea what the title means, but will watch to find out Edit: Finished the video, I fail to see where the Greek part is
@@commandercostas yes it's an American university/college thing. You can basically pay really hefty dues to join a "brotherhood" or "sister hood" and they're all named after Greek characters like Delta Gamma could be a name for example
Hey Emily. I just wanna say thank you for always sharing the bloopers! It helps us understand the effort that goes into your content plus always makes us laugh!
The thing is, the people who get into these sororities must’ve gone through hazing at some point to, so after going through that, why would they do it to someone else?
our uni made us do one of those hazing courses where we read about how harmful it was and did quizzes on it, but it still happens here. i’m not sure of the severity, but i heard of an instance where new recruits into a frat had to shave their head, and there’s also a mental and physical exhaustion kind of hazing in sororities.
i am so glad that I'm not the type to join a sorority, i just don't think it's for me and i hear that the culture, and a lot more about it are just so toxic. there was only one sorority i actually liked and she was my roommate during a summer stay, and she had a cat that i got to bond with. and the frats and sororities i hear are not as bad at my school, but i still would never join them. i also don't like their inherent traditional, white supremacist, and racist values. plus they are all so clean girl and girly and im just a plain messy emo who cares deeply about about my job. i feel so sad for all the sorority girls who have gone through the hazing process, and for the frats too. it must've been so cruel
my sorority (and a lot of others) have banned even using symbols of hazing, like paddles, as gifts. i think it’s a good step and my chapters very anti hazing but it’s crazy how much it even varies at my (small) college. especially when you look at what the frats do
You don't even need to drink lots of alcohol to die. Water can work super well too. My brother is a big guy and usually drinks 2 litres of water every day, but one hot summer drank so much water in such a short time frame (8+ liters in 3 hours or less, we're not sure) that he went into a coma. The doctors could not figure out what could be the cause. He was only 17 , never drank or used drugs. And it was only until one nurse suggested it looked similar to these hazing cases she heard about in the USA, that they figured it was a water-overdosis. Apparently there have been multiple deaths in the USA through hazings with just water instead of alcohol. It distorts the balance of minerals in your body, and your kidneys and brain can't keep up. My brother woke up after a week or so and is mostly okay. Has had migraines since and some memory loss. But luckily my parents called the ambulance in time. Sadly these days hazings have also become popular in my country. I hope the schools in my country will take strict measurements and the law will follow.
So i do remember in a conversation with a lady cutting my hair on how upset she was because my hair reminded me of her brothers who recently got it buzzed off with for his frat house and they then proceeded to paddle with with, ya know, a paddle to where he couldn't sit down. However, i did have a hired tutor who he and his wife were members of a frat sorority duo that focused on community work and like the original ideas while strongly prohibiting hazing and initiation was instead like essentially choosing where you would like to dedicate some time to for a charity or organization. Which is way better than drinking a shit-piss smoothie.
This is so necessary! Thanks for talkbing about this. And at the same time your acting is hilarious. I love it. You are such an amazing artist and actress. Oh my, I think I got a crush.
I'm so confused... What do frats/sororities bring you? Not only you PAY to enter but you also have to go through that??? Every time I think the US can't get worse, I find out more disturbing things like hello??
First year of architecture school they made us eat weird Sardine muffin fruit egg things in cups. We had to walk like frogs everywhere on the Campus. When we did outside activities in the city they came and collected us to Campus where they would walk us again. We weren’t allowed to wear makeup. Or have our hair down or anyway other than a ponytail in our foreheads. They shaved any guy who had long hair. We could only leave after 6 pm because we had homework. We had to lay in the mud. They egged us. Sprayed paint on us. Made us carry wheels and bricks and stuff. People who didn’t show up got blacklisted. And then after it all ended they cancelled the initiation party and still weren’t kind to us…
I am heavily against hazing and I still don’t see the point of it. For a lot of people it only brought back ptsd from bullying. And I think it’s something universities should leave behind by now. We could do way better initiation activities without hazing. They still haze first years and I still hate it everytime. A lot of students cry during and it makes me feel horrible to be there.
12:22 - If you told him you're an actress, he'll think you're rehearsing. If you didn't tell him...He'll think you're being a respectful dom. 😆 14:06 - Aww, the water sloshing onto the floor was actually perfect! Shoulda' done it again for authenticity. 😉 8:29 - Not a girl, but this bony-butt boy has solidarity with y'all! ✊🏼
In college rn, definitely an issue with the frats. The hazing I've seen ranges from a guy in my physics class not being allowed to talk for a day to a guy from the third floor filling 3 sinks with vomit.
We had a similar thing in my country but in a different name. A famous story is from a prestigious uni, the students are asked to cover themselves in chalk and run around in summer heat. There were *several* bodies that day.
Hazing is just a terrible thing. If it's going to be used at all, it should be a trick. For instance, it could be setup so that someone believes this is required, but before they do anything, they find out it isn't. Theoretically, it could be a good way to find people with low self-esteem and help them before they hurt themselves by trying so hard to belong somewhere. I'm not sure if this would work, but if hazing isn't going away, then this is the direction I'd like it to take
If you're a college student, just join ROTC if you want a regimented life. At least the military pays you and you have a guaranteed job after graduation.
I am actually getting taken a week from today by a sorority and I must say I’m friends with all of them so if they try to haze me I will tell them they’re silly for thinking I’d do that, and leave
When I was in college, the frats and sororities forced pledges to run naked from their houses to a statue in the middle of campus as part of the initiation process. This was relayed to me by an older janitor, who told me with an extremely creepy grin that it was his favorite night of the year. That alone was enough of a reason for me to steer very clear of all that.
Pretty sure that’s a federal offense if you’re in the US
@@DeathnoteBB oh it most certainly is
@@DeathnoteBB Federal? Usually that kind of thing is left to the states, fedbois are usually too lazy to "violate the constitution" (as in, the literal letter) unless there is or was some concerted effort to do so (Afaik, it's supposed to be unconstitutional for the federal government to make any laws that deal with anything that wasn't explicitly authorized by the constitution)
@@userequaltoNull “if you’re in the US”
I live in Europe and I heard there's a similar "tradition" where I live. We have this thing where we collect badges and in one city you can get a special badge if you run naked around a statue in the middle of the night. You can get another badge if you also take the bus while you're naked, smh.
Hazing is definitely still a problem. Recently a kid that went to my highschool was found dead in his dorm after a cruel hazing process. The school hasn’t done much about it because they don’t think it was foul play. His name is Luke Tyler, and he was trying to join the Theta Chi fraternity in WSU. If anyone can help spread the word it would mean everything to Luke and everyone who loved him.
wow thank you for spreading the word... that's so saddening to hear.
rip luke tyler, you had so much to live for 💞💞💞
Reach out to Kendall Rae! She covers cases like this & will feature the family if they are willing or interested. Or Stephanie Harlowe. It’s kinda insane that these things happen directly related to hazing and anyone considers it less than foul play…
what did they do to him?
Poor thing may the Lord bring justice for him
a classmate of mine in high school (also the son of my psychology teacher) died very suspiciously during our first semester of college. It was around the time of Rush at his college, but what happened is he somehow got out into the middle of nowhere down one of the interstates, like really between towns out in a swampier area. Reports came in that there was someone wandering down the interstate at 2am and soon after, he laid down in the middle of the interstate and was run over. Whether he fell asleep or passed out, we never found out. I will never forget that as long as I live, the investigation into his death never went public. All of my graduating class suspected it was a hazing ritual - to drop him off drunk in the middle of nowhere and make him walk back.
Florida Southern College, we haven't forgotten. We miss you, Wil.
Honestly, it could have been murder, perhaps with "date-rape" drugs in addition to booze. Most aren't tested for by default (for some reason)
@@userequaltoNullyou mean they put him ob the street as a example? That would be gruesome.
WAIT FLORIDA SOUTHERN- omg I wanted to go there🥴
Wow it's awful how kids die and then just ... Nothing happens?
Rest in peace to Wil ❤ and frats are awful i don't understand the point of why they are the way they are
University student here-
Hazing is STILL a huge problem. The reason that it may not be as broadcasted anymore is because the university is most likely trying to cover up the fact that these problems are even happening because I remember getting the fliers when I was applying saying how great greek life is, even though I had heard of the horrible stories that others had. People are still being pressured into extreme alcoholism, and with social media where it is currently, I don't see this stopping anytime soon. And its not like greek life can just shut down, because GOD FORBID the school has to lose some money to investigate these sorts of things. I am a huge introvert with social anxiety so I knew greek life wouldn't be for me from the start but I am beyond glad looking back now that I never had any interest. People have lost their lives due to this nonsense and as a result this whole lifestyle needs to be taken down a ton of notches.
It consistently irks me that these situations keep happening and yet nothing is being done about them.
The university system is a filtering apparatus for the satanic illuminati. Not Satan as in the being but Satan as the concept of the worship of the egoic will over service to others. These are the people who run your "higher" institutions.
You're so right. I went to a smaller college in the US, and it was a problem there, too. I heard that there are more whistleblowers coming forward since graduating, but it's bad. And it's everywhere.
Recently finished college, but my experience was pretty reasonable. I'm pretty sure my school is an exception, but just wanted to put some good info out.
there's social psychology research explaining why hazing makes people actually want to stay. The harder it is to get something, the more you want it. It's kind of like a sunk cost fallacy.
Hazing is also not unique to Greek life. The process of getting into a PhD is quite similar: you have to be exploited as a lab assistant before you even get a shot at acceptance to a program, and then whatever program you get in is a gamble whether the PI will treat you with respect or just make you get coffee for senior researchers at 3am.
My social psychology class said that cognitive dissonance also may play a part of why people stay. If you are being basically tortured and your mind can't think of a good reason to put up with it, it will just decide that the sorority or frat is just that good. Or something like that. Sorry if I didn't explain it well
When my mom was getting a PhD, she had to prepare feast for almost 50 people. She was making dished for days and her friends and our family was trying to help her. She also has to bring food to the place she was making presentation for. It was so unnecessary.
@@quivanitas Wow. That's messed up. What would that have to do with what she was studying?
@@thesealky6445 She was studying education in nursing. Hence, it was completely unrelated. She had to do a presentation for her oral examination. To be fair, she could've prepared less food and still pass.
Somewhat similar for getting a VMD: you have to pay to basically be free labor during your senior year clinical rotations. Some rotations work you 100 hours a week. Asking professors questions often results in an annoyed "there's a list of resources for you to consult on the course webpage" response, which is basically just a fancy way of saying "google it". Professors will refuse to tell you what they expect of you until the last minute, then take off points if you try to explain that you can't get to a farm an hour away at 6 am tomorrow morning because you're required to be in surgery tonight until 9 pm. And they wonder why we have mental health problems in the veterinary profession.
I see sorority/fraternity hazing as like generational trauma of sorts.They literally bully younger people because they had to experience it as well
The hazing is so cynical and f-ed up. If I could be in charge of a sorority I would have us have a fun bake-off and then a bonfire and playing games or set up an obstacle course, something like that or learn jujitsu moves! Aggh so many better things to do than this horrendous tradition that humiliates people.
Also, totally not thirsting over Emily’s hair in this video… heh
Left a like for the jiu-jitsu lessons
That sounds like fun!
This is a cool idea. More "Great British Bake Off" than "Survivor".
@@farrahupson yes exactly! Well put lol
I'd join your sorority!
Literally just got out a sorority frat that did things military style... I'm asthmatic and passed out twice... they shook me awake and I ran back into the formation with a ventolin. They became racist, xenophobic and homophobic as the night went on. This was monday I left yesterday.
Im sorry u went thru that :( glad u got out
Sounds like a horrible experience & not like people you‘d want to hang out with. Good you got out.
2 things,
1. The sorority I rushed for didn't let me in because of my low GPA which wasn't even my fault because my roommate gave me covid and I was quarantined during finals week. So I completely missed all of my winter finals. The leaders of the sorority refused to hear me out and just said better luck next year.
2. All frats at my tiny private liberal college have to have a member of public safety hang around during rush because of a hazing accident when a boy was forced to run down the street naked holding fire crackers. The fire crackers exploded and blasted one of his eyes out.
Sororities have gpa requirements they are held to by their national org and their council- there is no exemption. It wasn’t personal, just the rules.
@@friedrice4015 it wasn’t even like a real sorority 😭
@@10lauren46 they still have rules and, unless they are a hyper local chapter, a national org to answer to. Sororities operate off bylaws, typically, and if there was no exemption written in their hands are tied.
That GPA thing sounds like the school's problem, not the sorority's. It's really cruel of the school for not allowing you to make up finals if you have covid. I thought all schools allow makeups if you're sick so as not to encourage students to go to class and get everyone else sick. I guess mine is just one of the good ones for their sick leave makeup policy.
@@theshire9173 Many schools just don't care, there are no makeups for many tests, if you don't make it there, you fall
Imagine a book club where you're forcibly given paper cuts and bludgeoned by hardcover encyclopedias in order to join.
American schools in general are usually such a culture shock to me. What I hear and see in movie portrayals is crazy. The extreme bullying, school shooting, teen interactions...
@@Chichichihuahua to be fair the mafia controls everything south of Rome
@@Chichichihuahua there’s a few but i mean they are all similar
@@Chichichihuahua true, i mean every boss would want to be at the top if a unification were to happen
I mean, those _are_ movie portrayals. Americans themselves are usually some degree of shocked to amused bc of such graphic portrayals.
There might be some truth in them, but often heavily dramatized.
@@Chichichihuahua euphoria wasn't actually too far off from things that actually happened in my town and high school. I feel like a lot of the TV shows about America are a pretty good representation of somewhere in America just not everywhere.
A lot of things need to stop, but Emily's upload schedule is not one of them. Also, you're like so pretty, wth? 😭🌸
@Chad 007 he?!?!?
@@mely260 its a bot.
retsuko pfp, so cute :DD
I wonder how many toxic things we let them be because "it's our tradition" or "it's our culture."
I joined a professional fraternity instead of a social fraternity, so I feel like I luckily missed all the baggage of Greek life
I joined a service sorority and academic honor society. I feel exactly the same way.
Why Greek life? As a Greek that got my interest. Can you give me context?
@@serenityssolaceMany fraternities have Greek mottos which they use as the initials for their organization. For example, one of the earliest examples of Greek letter fraternities is ΦΒΚ, whose motto is «Φιλοσοφία βίου κυβερνήτης»
Because of this, it’s become common practice for fraternities to name themselves after the initials of a secret Greek motto.
@@DrScherzo Wow, I didn't know that. Kinda fascinating. Thanks a bunch for explaining. You're a real help!
11:49 I was in a sorority in college and now a semi-active alum. However, the sororities mentioned here were social sororities (the ones associated with having housing) whereas mine was a service sorority. So mine is going to be different regardless.
When I started as a prospective candidate, we just had to look through this like, 8 page packet of the warning signs on hazing. And then the rest of the packet was examples of types of hazing. (It had every example of hazing you could think of, plus some.) It also mentioned the school's rules for greek life, like how a prospective candidate had to have 6 hours of uninterrupted sleep/no meetings could be held between midnight and 6am. (And other rules like that.) Since we were also tied to a Dept within the school, that dept had their own rules for greek life within the dept. So it was a super long stack of papers that we signed.
I did not have a single issue with my chapter tbh. We were pretty small and everyone was chill. There was no hazing, nobody was humiliated. It was a good time.
Is my sorority perfect? No. But this is also my experience in a sorority.
Honestly this should be the standard everywhere! It sucks that grown men/women need such basic rules and regulations enforced so heavily, but history has shown us some students just can't be trusted.
I saw a guy from a very respected UC while I didn’t go to the college. He joined a frat and the hazing was a lot different. Mandatory workout hours with photo proof, and shaming about which girls they decided to hook up with if they weren’t “hot” enough. And like he needed signatures from other brothers so basically he had to buy them lunch or do what they asked until they’d sign.
I mean at least that doesn't seem to kill kids
Oh, so that's what it's calling in english?
In Brasil, this is a really big problem, or at least used to be when I was in college (nearly.... 10 years ago... My god, I'm old). The thing though is that down here, it's not limited to anyone who wants to go to a certain group, but anyone who got into the college course at all. And the harder it was to get into said course, the more aggressive the hazing is.
For example, I went to college for animation. Barely no competition for it down here, so the hazing was very lighthearted. It was voluntary and with no pressure to participate, and they just rubbed some washable paint on us, made us walk around campus holding hands in a weird way, do some spins, make a silly little oath full of inside jokes we would only get once classes actually started, and then pick a random gift from the pile. It was fun, light hearted, and I have fond memories of that night.
But once you look hazings at courses like medicine, nursing, engineering and law, they can get traumatizing and dangerous. Just looking up now to see if it was still a big thing, I saw the news of a hazing on medicine students this year that involved physical abuse and sexual harassment. And even though such hazings are illegal and against the college's policies, anyone who complains and reports on the veteran's behavior is killing their social life.
It's horrifying, really. Reading the whole thing is disgusting, specially when you remember these are future doctors.
Similar in Thailand, really. I did my undergrad in science, and the initiations were quite friendly albeit literally messy with mud and stuffs, but that was it. However, engineering, nursing, medicine, or some other faculties tend to have tougher activities more resembling hazing in the US.
I do wonder how many f-up things are being accepted because "it's our tradition".
Hazing always felt so unreal to me? Like why would people ever basically force a person to suffer just to join a club? That just makes zero sense to me. I know people who have burns and scars from their hazing experiences, and the worst part is that most of them didn't even realize that was horrible until recently. One of them even told me after I told him I felt sorry for him since his entire leg is covered in a large scar from his hazing "But it was so funny!"
Greek Life Hazing has always been really interesting to me because my school’s Greek Life is AGGRESSIVELY anti-hazing, especially my sorority. There’s little an online form to report hazing attempts. I know it happens but it’s so unfamiliar to me
Does this Greek life has anything to do with Greeks or the country of Greece? How did it originate?
@@serenityssolacegoogle it
bro my cousin is in a frat and he almost died from alcohol poisoning after he had to gallop around in a diaper on a stick horse while drinking a whole bottle of vodka
no hate but wtf is wrong with american schools 💀
As an American, everything
So much, send help
i’m pretty sure hazing happens at universities everywhere
@@chattywatty3963 no they dont greek life is american
@@radium135 if you scroll through the comments there’s stories from around the world so..
ik my brother wanted to join a fraternity and stopped when they told him to eat cat food and a raw onion. it was supposedly to make everyone feel “bonded” together. he had to sign a waiver saying that he wasn’t allowed to tell anyone about their methods of hazing
Lmao that waiver sounds illegal and bogus. I'm glad he stopped, fuck those ppl.
I am French and I think sorority/frat community and everything have always been the greatest mystery of American culture for me (because no other country seems to have it)
edit: apparently I was wrong and many countries share this part of mystery ;) this is very educating !
Yes! In my country usually we have many extracurricular activities or internship
Nah, here in the Philippines, we still have frat/sorority in our colleges
@@screemingslay5415 It sure makes it across the Pacific. Similar things also exist in Thailand.
Oh the Netherlands and Belgium definitely have this and every few years some poor eighteen-year-old student dies, and nothing changes
@@samthomassen9021 oh no :( what happened
There were fraternities at my college once upon a time. They disbanded when I was a freshman because of a sexual assault scandal and subsequent student outrage. Now the closest thing we have to a frat here is the sci fi club, which has the formal name of "Psi Phi (not a frat)"
Psi Phi is such a fun name. I'm glad the bad frats were forced to disband
@@BrookeAndCoStudiosit’s not even Psi Phi, it’s Psi Phi (not a frat)
Thus kind of "Greek Life Hazing" is like Greek Gods treating humans be like, but instead of Gods we have another humans. But it's more hardcore...
Imagine a Greek life that asks for a formal interview process with three references and a personal essay. Now that is some real emotional and psychological torment 😂
What does Greek mean?
@@serenityssolaceGreek means to be from the country Greece.
@@noonebossesthegarnet2890 no shit Sherlock.
@@serenityssolace Word your questions better.
I’m in a sorority in Canada and had a super positive experience - nothing like this ever happened they just like wrote letters about how much they liked us and gave us gifts and stuff. It’s insane hearing about some of these things happening in some groups like what the f that is a literal crime
Wait, Im kinda confused, did they have to give the members gifts to get in?
how it works here is you sign up if you’re interested then over 2 weeks you do « speed dating » with the different sororities and then you pick each other based on mutual selection. After you get your house there is bid day where there’s a theme and you get a t shirt and then the girls who are in it usually will give gifts to their « littles » so you get paired up with an older member who is supposed to be your mentor and who makes plans with you to make sure you feel welcomed in the group. The gift part is optional but it is the norm.
Here in my home country, we have an Anti-hazing law that was implemented in the mid 1990s. The law makes hazing among the frats/sorority illegal, which makes sense cuz there were a lot of deaths by it up to the point that some frats/sorority and the school were accused/sent to the court.
Though there ARE few cases of deaths by hazing in this time, sadly there was a hazing incident last year in one of the universities in my home city that even made it to news and social media.
Seems like a sensible law!
Not to mention the sexual assualt, r*pe culture, racism, sexism in fraternity😬
As someone who isn’t from America I am genuinely surprised that this actually exists. I thought it was a myth made up by Hollywood and I am so sorry to Americans that this is not, in fact, the case.
People, please, have some respect for yourselves. You should never have to subject yrself to any kind of mistreatment to "prove" yr worthy of something or someone. Anyone who says otherwise has control issues and you should run far away.
At first, I was very confused and thought this had something to do with Greece, but it set in after a bit lol. It's great that you're bringing up this stuff! Love your videos btw
Same. I'm Greek and was extremely confused there for a while, lol
Some of these acts are actual torture methods.
During my college's orientation an older student explained to us freshman that hazing was banned on campus and these kids who looked like the most stereotypical frat boys and sorority girls were like "WHAT! Are you guys allowed to have any fun here?" I was like dude really? Do you want to be tortured by people who you'll have to spend time with for years? And every year I hear stories about kids dying or permanently harmed by hazing rituals
i remember when my dad told me he was in a frat in college. I was very confused and a bit worried, but it turns out he was in a nerd frat. the initiation got as intense as people in cloaks standing around cult style ,to initiate a new member. just a bit of spooky fun. the only reason why it ever goes further than that is sadism I presume
In India, we had this similar concept of "ragging" until a few years ago, which apparently happened to most people joining college. But after some violent incidents, the govt set up an anti-ragging helpline number and laws against it. So now you almost never hear about it.
A guy I went to school with from 8-12th grade was killed in a hazing accident just a couple years ago within a year of graduating which inspired Virginia to change its laws (named "adam's law" after him), but the other kids weren't held accountable, at least in a way that really affected them. It's disgusting and unacceptable.
hazing sounds like how prisoners are treated in guantanamo bay, and sororities/fraternities sound like cults
I'm not sure how many have heard of Matt's Law in California, but I went to High School (my year) with Matt Carrington. I know people generally don't speak ill of the dead, but in Matt's case, he really was the nicest guy I've ever known. I don't think he'd ever said an unkind word to or about anyone.
The university of Missouri had a terrible hazing incident that ended up leaving a guy permanently blind. :(
I literally just joined a sorority and they have a big policy against hazing and had some meetings about. I’m very thankful for it bc it just reaffirmed that I picked the right one
i personally was never involved in greek life but a woman from my college graduating class made a podcast detailing her experience in a sorority and it was so interesting (it's called snapped by lucy taylor, i would highly recommend!) she wasn't necessarily hazed but she went through a lot of really awful things and exposed a lot of the exclusionary practices (and just generally fucked up stuff that goes on) in historically white sororities at many different universities across the u.s.
my main issue of hazing is the lack of consent. most if not all i have seen have been without knowing what it was, then it's something horrid they wouldn't have done if they had known.
No better source for an accurate depiction of the Fraternity experience than a female non-member reading online rumors and presenting them as factual and representative.
Our pledges worked our events, ran errands, and had compulsory library study hall and gym. The horror! It was less than 2 months, and it was insane how you’d see a fat shy kid enter and leave in shape with confidence and friends. It’s almost as if learning to deal with discomfort and new situations leads to development.
Paying hella money for friends? I was a scholarship kid who busted my ass in the summer and had no problem paying 800$ a semester out of my own pocket. Where does that money go? Managing a property/bills, parties, intramural sports… etc.
Outgoing seniors are the bad cops for pledges, sophomores and juniors who you’re gonna hang with don’t mistreat you. See? Almost like there’s method to the madness.
Student here current in a womens music fraternity:
hazing is usually a "social" frat/sorority problem. The ones who actually serve a purpose, for example my fraternity donates a lot to help schools with music, scholarships, and doing service projects in the community in general.
We do not haze, and I remember joining being a very pleasant experience. One of my sisters who joined with me had left a social sorority where she was badly hazed the previous semester. The other music fraternities on campus do not haze, nor do the other arts groups. its literally the ones that cost an arm and a leg each month to join and serve no purpose other than being a friend group that haze.
i genuinely did not think hazing was still a problem because it is completely banned at my college. they take it so serious.
Honestly it’s a weird concept but most people do it to get a good college story. I was never hazed going through the process of joining my sorority I think the worst thing they did was telling me I wasn’t putting enough time in the educational period but going into it I kept thinking if I get hazed it’ll be an interesting story 😭 but also pledge-ship in my sorority changed a lot my big in the sorority has some pretty traumatic stories so hazing is very much real I was just lucky enough it never happened to me.
This reminds me of that girlfrom nowhere episode. Nothing should remind you of a girl from a nowhere episode
Yanno, as someone who would never join a sorority in her life, it gives me some weird inner peace knowing that a lot of the girls who bullied me then went on to their big name schools and sororities may have been subject to worse horrors than they put me through. Like I am in therapy trying to get past my insecurities, but they might have had literal piss dumped on their heads. At least I can say that and sleep at night not knowing what that feels like 🥰
I’m currently in Greek life and I can say that at least at my school and chapter, hazing is extremely looked down upon. Some states have laws against it too. I haven’t seen hazing activity at my school and no one would dare to really because the consequences are much more serious on todays campuses. Can’t speak for all schools, but mine is super serious and anti hazing. Literally had to take a course on how to spot hazing and what you should do in the event of a haze. Couldn’t even join without taking the course.
Genuinely thought this was some problematic tradition from Greece at first lmao
I guess I really am European
"does not strike me as bestie behaviour" might be the funniest thing I've heard all month
I had no idea hazing was Like This. Why would u even join after they did their best to humiliate and torture you 💀💀💀
I graduated from a small US college in 2014.
I joined the 'chill' fraternity whose reputation was very anti-hazing and lived by it, but it wasn't always like that with that group. I didn't have any intentions to join GL, but I got along with the group pretty well and that's where most of my friends were anyway. My overall experience was interesting, enough shares of both good and bad, but there was zero hazing in my own group. I've heard that it exists in a handful of other groups in my campus, both during my time and on an ongoing basis. I have several lifelong friends that I've made through my experience. Some of them would've been my friends regardless, and others were through circumstances that my membership allowed for me.
As someone at a major Midwest Greek life school, I think making them stand outside and take pictures in dresses in this weather is enough of a haze
We have this also in Belgium and I always thought it was weird but a few years ago I think 2; A boy died during the hazing because they made him drink a litter of fish oil (which in itself isn't uncommon only not that much). They also peed on him what was a tradition in that sorority (and what for some reason is a legal thing to do). They also made him drink lots of alcohol and made him eat a dead rat and tapped off the water so that he couldn't drink anything other than the fish oil. His name is Sanda Dia if you want to look it up.
All of these hazing methods I'm seeing in this comment section sound like either torture, murder attempts, or the most hardcore porn on this Earth
A bit late. But I want to add that the boy was black and the mostly white boys who did this to him got off with only community service and a fine they could easily pay. Oh, and the only poc (a black boy to be specific) in the fraternity got the nickname Rafiki from the other frat boys.
Went to undergrad at one of the big “party schools.” Attempted to rush my sophomore year. Went to some parties as a potential rushee and talked to the current members. I just couldn’t vibe with any of them. They could barely hold a conversation, and when i asked them what they liked to do and how they spent their time, I consistently got a blank stare or some combo of weed, drinking, and sometimes the gym. No hobbies, no clubs, nothing. Left real quick and found some actual people in clubs i liked.
Damn, college kids seem so sad and lame, even disregarding the shitty hazing stuff.
Side note: I'm 15 so all of this is completely foreign to me
I didn't go to those types of colleges, but I'm pretty sure those types of hazing still happens at the major ivy league colleges because they're all richy riches and they can get away with it.
Also, TrAdItIoNs~
@@notthatcreativewithnames Yeah. That's what I could find the words for.... Legacy students being legacy pledges and perpetuating elitism.... Family tradition.... Your grandfather.... BLAH BLAH BLAH. Whyte supremacy and rayssism as a whole is perpetuated by tradition, too.
Some of the stories of hazing that has gone on are so mind boggling, I cannot imagine who the people that actually come up with these things are like. How sick and sadistic do you have to be to want to do that to another person? It’s down right criminal behavior. Somehow they garner these groups around them because of the title and exclusivity, but if you ask me these people should be FAR away from others if they think what they’re doing is justified. They need to be locked up, they’re sick.
IM CRYING THE SKIT WITH THE LIVER AND BRAIN AND TEQUILA, WHEN SHE BUMPED INTO THE FRIDGE
my brother went to uni a few years ago, and he told me alot about how his frat, they made him drink alot and then he passed out (he never drunk before) and they put him in a little forest nexdt to the uni and made him walk back , he said he was lost there for about a day before they had to call the police , i personally reported the frat leaders and we got him to a new uni , cuz he was scared by just looking at the uni signs , sorry that happened you you bro , ly
My rugby team did hazing for the rookies, but it was FUN. Like one thing we had to do was choreograph a goofy ass dance and perform it for the seniors together so they could post it on social media, another hazing activity was we had to dress up like sewer rats and run around campus looking for scavenger hunt items and figure out how to get to the main rugby house before the time ran out, and then there was little stuff the newbies had to do like set up the rugby field and clean it up every practice. It was harmless, goofy stuff that never put anyone in harms way. If someone was really stressed out by it, they didn’t have to do it. But it was easy to do because all of us were in it together, and it helped us bond as a team. That’s what I think “hazing” really SHOULD be. Healthy bonding as a group, and you get to have a bit of fun along the way. Something to look back on and laugh at.. It should NOT be an excuse for people to get away with enacting their cruel sadistic fantasies and power trips. And if someone does not consent, it should always be respected
(quick note: in australia, we have university. college is what we calll the sorority/frat house thing)
while my college has literally no hazing (like i mean literally nothing - the most we did was drink tomato sauce and even that was voluntary) i know that it's still pretty present at other colleges, some more than others. i had an alumn tell me that when she was at college one of her friends from another college had his ear cut off during hazing. actually horrifying
as an Australian university student, yeah fraternities and sororities are just not a thing in uni
i’m in a sorority and the hazing was simply non existent, it’s definitely locational
Something no one talks about is that the frat bro culture of extreme sexual violence and insults is trauma. And that trauma contributes the the attitude men have where they downplay the severity of sexual violence and mean spirited “jokes”. When women tell stories of being catcalled they shrug it off bc they went through way worse with their frat but it was all fun n games. So how could being yelled at on the street be a big deal? You see what i mean.
In my country it’s allowed to drink alcohol with low percentage at 16. I feel like now at uni, people know their limits pretty well. Ofc many don’t listen to it but still many do and just know how much exactly they want to drink.
I'm German and when I started my first year at university there were already several people who said they had no interest in the parties students held because they already felt they did enough of that. I don't drink alcohol and don't like parties and never felt any pressure to start, which I'm glad about.
@@Tessa_Gr I can relate to that. I drink sometimes but it is never to a point where I feel sick or can’t remember anything…sometimes I stick to soft drinks too
3:46 "Picasso's Starry Night" 😭😭😭😭
hazing is still such a big problem. there was this guy who was like starved and forced to eat live rats eels and goldfish.
I'm so glad that I'm not in college and have no interest in joining a sorority. I'm self diagnosed autistic, so I'm pretty sure if I was being hazed and it was anything close to this, I would a complete meltdown so bad that I would probably get into my first ever fight and when the meltdown subsided; it would develop into a shutdown that would last a very long time. After finally processing all the trauma from the hazing, I would leave that sorority and never try to join one ever again.
3:47 Picasso’s starry night?? Starry Night was a Vincent Van Gogh lollllll
I went to art school for one thing and it’s this 😂
a 20 year old guy named Sanda Dia was killed by a fraternity and none of them faced any jailtime because the members from the fraternity came from wealthy families.
As a Greek, born and raised in Greece, I have no idea what the title means, but will watch to find out
Edit: Finished the video, I fail to see where the Greek part is
frats and soroities used greek letters for their names??? but i have no clue why its rlly odd
@@cesarionoexisto2848 Is that an American thing or something? I don't follow...
@@commandercostas yes it's an American university/college thing. You can basically pay really hefty dues to join a "brotherhood" or "sister hood" and they're all named after Greek characters like Delta Gamma could be a name for example
@Allison Thanks, my life was better before that information and I regret asking
from what i understand, the greek letters are the only actual link to Greece :| and it's just random letters
A boy named Brockson sounds like a Netflix or Hulu original about stuff like this
Hey Emily. I just wanna say thank you for always sharing the bloopers! It helps us understand the effort that goes into your content plus always makes us laugh!
The thing is, the people who get into these sororities must’ve gone through hazing at some point to, so after going through that, why would they do it to someone else?
its just so weird to me like 💀 i'd get so violent if someone tried to do really uncomfortable things like why not just leave ??
The only thing I knew about Greek life before was from watching Scream Queens, I had no idea things like that happened irl omg 😭
A kid I went to high school with ended his life because of hazing in university. Enough said.
Edit: This was 6 years ago.
The bloopers are a visual representation of me creating fake scenarios in my head
our uni made us do one of those hazing courses where we read about how harmful it was and did quizzes on it, but it still happens here. i’m not sure of the severity, but i heard of an instance where new recruits into a frat had to shave their head, and there’s also a mental and physical exhaustion kind of hazing in sororities.
i am so glad that I'm not the type to join a sorority, i just don't think it's for me and i hear that the culture, and a lot more about it are just so toxic. there was only one sorority i actually liked and she was my roommate during a summer stay, and she had a cat that i got to bond with. and the frats and sororities i hear are not as bad at my school, but i still would never join them. i also don't like their inherent traditional, white supremacist, and racist values. plus they are all so clean girl and girly and im just a plain messy emo who cares deeply about about my job. i feel so sad for all the sorority girls who have gone through the hazing process, and for the frats too. it must've been so cruel
I'm lucky my uni is very chill. Hazing here it's like: donate blood, ask for money on the street or just a barbecue night with the new people
my sorority (and a lot of others) have banned even using symbols of hazing, like paddles, as gifts. i think it’s a good step and my chapters very anti hazing but it’s crazy how much it even varies at my (small) college. especially when you look at what the frats do
You don't even need to drink lots of alcohol to die. Water can work super well too. My brother is a big guy and usually drinks 2 litres of water every day, but one hot summer drank so much water in such a short time frame (8+ liters in 3 hours or less, we're not sure) that he went into a coma. The doctors could not figure out what could be the cause. He was only 17 , never drank or used drugs. And it was only until one nurse suggested it looked similar to these hazing cases she heard about in the USA, that they figured it was a water-overdosis. Apparently there have been multiple deaths in the USA through hazings with just water instead of alcohol. It distorts the balance of minerals in your body, and your kidneys and brain can't keep up.
My brother woke up after a week or so and is mostly okay. Has had migraines since and some memory loss. But luckily my parents called the ambulance in time.
Sadly these days hazings have also become popular in my country. I hope the schools in my country will take strict measurements and the law will follow.
So i do remember in a conversation with a lady cutting my hair on how upset she was because my hair reminded me of her brothers who recently got it buzzed off with for his frat house and they then proceeded to paddle with with, ya know, a paddle to where he couldn't sit down. However, i did have a hired tutor who he and his wife were members of a frat sorority duo that focused on community work and like the original ideas while strongly prohibiting hazing and initiation was instead like essentially choosing where you would like to dedicate some time to for a charity or organization. Which is way better than drinking a shit-piss smoothie.
This is so necessary! Thanks for talkbing about this. And at the same time your acting is hilarious. I love it. You are such an amazing artist and actress. Oh my, I think I got a crush.
I'm so confused... What do frats/sororities bring you? Not only you PAY to enter but you also have to go through that??? Every time I think the US can't get worse, I find out more disturbing things like hello??
It's made for dump people.
First year of architecture school they made us eat weird Sardine muffin fruit egg things in cups. We had to walk like frogs everywhere on the Campus. When we did outside activities in the city they came and collected us to Campus where they would walk us again. We weren’t allowed to wear makeup. Or have our hair down or anyway other than a ponytail in our foreheads. They shaved any guy who had long hair. We could only leave after 6 pm because we had homework. We had to lay in the mud. They egged us. Sprayed paint on us. Made us carry wheels and bricks and stuff. People who didn’t show up got blacklisted. And then after it all ended they cancelled the initiation party and still weren’t kind to us…
I am heavily against hazing and I still don’t see the point of it. For a lot of people it only brought back ptsd from bullying. And I think it’s something universities should leave behind by now. We could do way better initiation activities without hazing. They still haze first years and I still hate it everytime. A lot of students cry during and it makes me feel horrible to be there.
12:22 - If you told him you're an actress, he'll think you're rehearsing. If you didn't tell him...He'll think you're being a respectful dom. 😆
14:06 - Aww, the water sloshing onto the floor was actually perfect! Shoulda' done it again for authenticity. 😉
8:29 - Not a girl, but this bony-butt boy has solidarity with y'all! ✊🏼
In college rn, definitely an issue with the frats. The hazing I've seen ranges from a guy in my physics class not being allowed to talk for a day to a guy from the third floor filling 3 sinks with vomit.
4:16 starry night… by piccaso?
No but how does this still happen? We don’t do shit like this in Ireland, seems psychopathic to be honest.
see this is why i will always view greek life as a cult, everything about it is so unsettling
Normal people just ignore this crap.
YESSS EMILY POSTED
We had a similar thing in my country but in a different name. A famous story is from a prestigious uni, the students are asked to cover themselves in chalk and run around in summer heat. There were *several* bodies that day.
i’m sorry i can’t move past “picasso’s starry night”
Hazing is just a terrible thing. If it's going to be used at all, it should be a trick. For instance, it could be setup so that someone believes this is required, but before they do anything, they find out it isn't. Theoretically, it could be a good way to find people with low self-esteem and help them before they hurt themselves by trying so hard to belong somewhere. I'm not sure if this would work, but if hazing isn't going away, then this is the direction I'd like it to take
If you're a college student, just join ROTC if you want a regimented life. At least the military pays you and you have a guaranteed job after graduation.
i was a vice president of a club at my old college and had to take a WHOLE thing on hazing
*watches in horrified european*
I am actually getting taken a week from today by a sorority and I must say I’m friends with all of them so if they try to haze me I will tell them they’re silly for thinking I’d do that, and leave