This Ancient Technique Tells Your Chess Talent Level
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In this video lesson, GM Igor Smirnov shares a special, ancient technique that will help determine your chess talent level.
He will present an interesting chess puzzle designed to test your thinking skills. Your task is to find the best move and calculate all possible variations. You will also learn how players at different rating levels, from 500 ELO to 2500 ELO, would approach this puzzle.
Test your chess level with this puzzle, see where you currently stand, and learn ways to improve your chess skills.
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00:00 This Puzzle Tells Your Chess Talent Level
00:27 500 ELO Rating Level
00:38 800 ELO Rating Level
00:52 1000 ELO Rating Level
01:24 1200 ELO Rating Level
01:47 The Right Way Of Thinking In Chess
04:39 Solving puzzles VS Finding it in real game
05:24 1600 ELO Rating Level
08:08 1800 ELO Rating Level
09:01 2100 ELO Rating Level
10:09 2500 ELO Rating Level
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Ok.🙏🏻
I am asking please to help me with your book actually I can't afford them and your classes am from Africa from a country called Zambia 400USD is too much for us you multiple it by 21 that is k8,400 then my dad gets k5,000 😢 just asking please am asking for help Igor Smirnov please Mr😢
Bullet players laugh in the face of blinders 😂
Haha I'm actually 2215 bullet and got 2500 estimate lol
@@punamsingh6500 that's impressive
i've yet to meet one who can outsmart bullet
Bullett is not real "chess"... it's more like an "arcade" videogame version of it...
@@andreitiberiovicgazdovici I get what you're saying and I agree with it some what, but bullet chess is still chess. You just don't have so much time to calculate & make the moves, so you got to employ different kind of strategies to be good at it than with classical or even Rapid chess. In 5min Blitz you have a little time to calculate and in 3min very little.
Awesome idea :D would be interested in more vids like this.
I got 1600 on this puzzle (rated 1100 rapid). Many things beyond this tell me i am not hitting my potential in rapid. I think i see all these things slower and i can fail to perform well under time pressure. I got as far as seeing i would win a pawn and have better activity after seeing the Kf8 option for black so I'm happy with that. a4 was never going to come to mind but i had seen Qf4+. These are obviously broad ranges but it's a nice puzzle.
We're in the same boat, 1'100 and scored 1'600 here.
My main issue is also implementing puzzle- or rather spotting them. My puzzle rank is around 2'050 with a peak of 2'200. When I know there's a definite solution to the position I have a reasonable chance of spotting it, real games just seem so much more nebulous.
bro i am 1300 in rapid and i got 2100 in this vdo, but my problem is i play the game very well but then blunder a piece and lose
@@ebraheememad9593 it adds to a picture that some of us have done plenty of puzzles and can find these motifs when prompted but have other weaknesses in ours games. Yesterday I won a 10+5 game after straight up blundering a knight but only because I found a sneaky revealed pin to recover material balance and then I had a more active king in the endgame and got a passed pawn. I even went into that game trying to just focus on not volunteering material and I still did. That's what will unlock the next rating range for me.
A4 is not a real move, it's a random move to "pass" the turn without changing the position. The point was realizing Black is in zugzwang.
Could've made any other random move like A3, F3, G3, G4, Kh1...
your own mind is limiting your potential, just believe in yourself
8:20 Qh8 is obviously a blunder, but it is still a draw. After Kxe7 Qe5+ white can repeat the position. I got 1800 rating.
I noticed that, too.
► Chapters
00:00 This Puzzle Tells Your Chess Talent Level
00:27 500 ELO Rating Level
00:38 800 ELO Rating Level
00:52 1000 ELO Rating Level
01:24 1200 ELO Rating Level
01:47 The Right Way Of Thinking In Chess
04:39 Solving puzzles VS Finding it in real game
05:24 1600 ELO Rating Level
08:08 1800 ELO Rating Level
09:01 2100 ELO Rating Level
10:09 2500 ELO Rating Level
I got lost right at Qf6
The Beginning Puzzle:
1. Qe5+ Kf8
2. Qf6 Qe8
3. Rxe8+ Kxe8
Me getting a 2500 ELO rating level while actually being 1700 ELO 😂😂
I am a 3+0 Blitz player with an on-line Blitz rating of Elo 1900-2000 (Elo 2078 is my current pick). In this puzzle I reached Elo 1800.
Thank you so much Igor and please, bring more of these Elo calculating puzzles!
All the best,
Marco
EarlyJaques
Blitz is not real chess bro
@@Georgewalsh100 silly comment. it's just a different format. one that i suck at and one i'm guessing you do as well. i'm about a 2000 according to this puzzle but i'm terrible in short timed games like a 1200.
@@Georgewalsh100 overused statement.
Its simply is another time format.
@@Georgewalsh100 Yes it is.
4:49 Didn’t see the beef coming😂
Kramnik did this to himself 😂
Another epic video Igor! Please upload more videos like this! Thanks! 👍
I love these videos with puzzle with different layers !!
I got to 1800 on that one
Being 2000 rapid and 1700 blitz / bullet
Quite acurate I would say
I missed that Qf6 move, I thought I had to trade that rook but black actually cant take it, very nice !
Same here. I had same range of rapid and blitz, then got 1800 in this test. What a pleasure to see someone got same with me😂
Make that 3 of us. 😆😆 My last tournament rating was 1850. When he revealed the Zugzwang, my mouth dropped opened. I felt stupid to miss it, but it was a clear indicator that I haven't actually broken 2000 yet.
@@rockmyworldmusic ikr😂
I was like, bruuh i literally didn't see that coming and just went for the pawn🤣
1800
1800 which is similar to my current rating. Toughest part is calculating opponent moves
I love how Igor makes EVERY video useful and informative, and entertaining. Thanks
Happy to hear that!
First of all, I'm impressed that your system worked!! Secondly, thank you for opening my eyes with practical puzzles.
My last official tournament rating was 1850. And, true to your commentary, I saw everything up to the Zugzwang. I just assumed my attacking Rook could be captured and never even thought about waiting moves.
Thanks for helping me on my quest to break 2000.
What a great video, quite unique in approach.
Regarding your observation about players not being able to see the possible good moves of their opponent, what do you think about the idea of playing a bunch of games while looking at the board from your opponent's side while you play?
Before I started watching your videos explaining your thinking I would have been way down at the 800's, but pleased to say I got around 1600!! Been playing properly for about 9 months now. Just missed I could pick up the pawn on h7! Thank you for all your videos
Thank you very much, I clearly saw up to Qxh7 but I totaly missed the back rank mate threat !!!
Thank you Igor. Love you videos :))))))
This is the most helpful video to help me understand how to calculate in chess
I'm a beginner - started around the first of the year. I was 1000-1200 on this puzzle. Very interesting analysis, thanks Igor.
Instructive - thanks.
Explore all variation lines and not just a few! That is my takeaway here. A lovely position to work through.
GREAT! Congratulations!
More vids like this, please. 👍🏻
2100 I stopped the calculations after Qf6. Like Igor said, I can find nice tactics, attacking ideas, and brilliant moves, but when it comes to calculating my opponent best moves, I suck😂
good exercise!
As a 1900 blitz player I saw something different, I didn't consider there was a forced win I saw that you could actually sacrifice the rook and force a draw because the Queen, and rook are blocking the escape squares for the black king, so I wanted to play QH8+ KXE7 QE5+ KF8 QH8 repetition, I considered QF6, but I figured the forced draw was enough at least I wouldn't be losing in that scenario, in Blitz in a time scramble that draw will most certainly do.
Yeah i also saw the same moves
Another example why this young man has become my favorite chess tutor. Many thanks.
at my good days i can play as a 1500 rated, but in bad days i always blunder. And i like your videos about punish unsound openings. Now peoples never play scholars mate or pins my knight. That queen F6 is very interesting. I always go most forward with my pieces so perhaps i would had found that without any calculations.
I think a huge part of this is time. It's not just that puzzles have solutions, but that we take the time to find them. In a game, the ideas here won't necessarily jump out to players during the time that they allow themselves to think. This is why knowing patterns and having opening prep can be so powerful-they guide you to the correct response without requiring thought, and they also give you more time to think when you need it.
I miss-calculated Qe5+ Kf8 Re8+ Qxe8 Qh8#. It's not mate because of Ke7. Also, I was not entirely sure where the line with Kh6 ended, but I figured it would be better for white. Finally, from the position at 9:03, I saw Qf6 Qe8. I guess that puts me around 1500 because I fell just short of the 1600 mark.
What a fantastic puzzle. Where did you find it? I got 2500. I don't think the variations are over though, white does not have to take the queen. White can play a4 and eventually black will run out of pawn moves and have to start sacing pawns.
I stopped calculating at the 2100 point because I couldn't see any obvious mates. I saw the queen sacrifice and then taking the pawns in an easy endgame, but I guess that's why I lose so many games when I play 2000-2300 players....getting too focused on one thing and not seeing the big picture against opponents who know what they're doing. I got frustrated looking for mate and in a real game, I'll flag like I have so many times.
Great video!
1800! I maybeee could have found some of those more difficult moves in the 2000 section, but I would have needed tonsss of time.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do a Part 2!!!!!
1800 🎉 🎉🎉
Your videos are very very helpful.
Thank you!!!
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WOW this was very fun! I would love more videos like this. Curious how according to this video I’m 1600 but I’m still at 810 in Rapid. I need to slow down and think more!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I got a rating of 1600 in your puzzle, after Kf8 I couldn't visualize further so I completed the line with Kf8.. I noticed the zugzwang when the position actually happened on the board.. I'm 1400 in rapid so I'm pretty happy
that zugzwang move made me have chills lmao thats a nasty move
At 8:25 you could sacrifice the rook by playing eg f4 and if the queen or room took the rook, QH8 is checkmate.
Good exercise. 1800 score for me. Saw everything to winning the pawn on H7, though it seemed a modest return. Anyone who saw right up to Qf6 would've done really well.
Thanks mate ❤🎉😊
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2500 elo as a rapid 2000 player, good vid as always!
Thie kind of video that tells you your level, based on your chess move, are the best
These are the principles used to solve this puzzle :
1. Maintain the pressure
2. look for forcing move
3.Choose some cadediates moves
4.try to figure out what your opponents reactions or possible moves( all of them if you can )
5. Try to keep the king on a side or corner of the board where it won't just run
6.Eliminate the defender by forcing them to recapture or to just move
as per this we can get Queen to E5 check as best move!
Actuaaly the main point is to look for invasion on black's weak dark squares.
Your video is very impressive - thank you.
No one should take this too seriously. It´s still just one position, which is actually a rather simple one with only a few reasonable variations. It might serve you as a positive reinforcement if you get to Qf6 for instance and Igor says your strength is 2100 but that´s about it. If you are serious about chess in any way and you don´t think about moves like Qe8 as it´s the only move on the board to protect f7 apart from taking on e7, you should probably reconsider your career choice. The ability to see that one move does not suddenly make you 400 points stronger. Any 2100 player should be able to see it from a long way off.
Another thing - retreating is in most cases the least expected option for your opponent and as such can be extremely efficient in catching them off guard. Too often looking only one way leads to an inevitable disaster when everything could have been different had you only considered a retreating move somewhere in your variation. Maneuvers like Qa4->d1->h5 are worth studying and remembering. Even though generally speaking he's right and you should aim to primarily go forward and have as active pieces as possible, retreating moves here and there could help you achieve your active long term plan.
Lastly - when considering Re8 variations, more logical way of doubling on the last rank would seem with 2.Qe4 and 3.Qa8 which would not relinquish control over the e file, at least not immediately. I'm not saying it would give white anything here but if mentioning it, it would make sense to me to consider more reasonable moves instead of a clearly inferior 2.Rc8 where it's black who's better.
As a 1 Re8, I need to work on thinking through the lines of a position, but it's something I really struggle with. Any suggestions would be most helpful. Thanks!
as a 3100 rated in puzzles player i solved it in 3 minutes (im 1500 in rapid)
Means you’re supposed to be in your 2000s
Show off
@@bradspaugh9827 cry abt it
Puzzle rating doesn't mean anything
@@PickleCODM-hw6cj whats your puzzle rating?
I got 1000 but I've just started playing more seriously and my very first thought was to move the rook up and try to force a queen exchange which works well with how my brain works so I will always accept a queen exchange. I wouldn't have thought of checking them mainly because at my ELO rating there are just endless, pointless spite checks but clearly I was missing the advantages.
Saw everything... used to hover around fide 2000 but inactive for years - switched to backgammon...
Nice exercise. Am only 1400 OTB, 1700ish Chesscom but I managed to solve at the highest level 2500, saw Qe8 as the only way to keep it going. I spent my time on Kh6 first, solved that, then Kf8 was initially tricky but I got it fairly quick once I saw how the rook couldn't be taken Qf6 jumped out to me.
According to this puzzle video I think like an 1800. But really 1400
Damn this thing got me pretty dead on at 1600
Thanks ❤ worth trying independently.
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2500! (FIDE: 1471) But Igor what about our chess psychology during a on-board games? Please make a video on it too!!
I instinctively saw the Queen check on e5 was the best move - I wouldn't have seen the zugzwang or the f6 move though as I would be more focused on trying to find something fancy on the back rank, completely missing the closer queen moves on the 6th rank
I got to 1200 elo on this puzzle. New adult improver who is currently 800 elo online but climbing
Hello Igor! What makes you say it is an ancien technique.? When , where and who used it for the first time to establish chess players' levels... Please give some references to this claim. Thank you !!
QE 5
I got between a 1000 and 1600, calculated Qe5+ Kh6 (I missed that Kf8 protects from attacking on e8), then Re8 Qd7 (this misses the defense by Qg5), Qxc7 Rxc7, Ra8 - with the assumption that now black has a more active king but their rook is stuck protecting the pawn on a7. Stockfish says I've turned a won game into a draw, but at least it did agree with me on a4 as best move at the end of my sequence :)
I'm in the same level as you,,😅My rating is 990 now (I've started playing chess seeing my friend & it is nearly 4-6 months I'm playing).. I'm in search of a solid opening,,can you help
@@masudurrahman7003 at our level a solid opening is any opening you know well enough :) Pick one and study it a little. If an opening is described as leading to complicated and/or dynamic games, it's probably not beginner friendly. Anything with "modern" in name or description is probably best for at least early intermediate players. My trick to gaining rating is keeping it cool. When I go for a crazy game it will probably be lost. Which too can be fun!
@@mikoajp.5890 which opening you like to play
I got a rating 2500 in this puzzle but still get smashed v CPU 2100 rating. I love the Ruy Lopez opening and once the cpu chooses bishop e7 I tend to struggle. I've watched all your videos on Ruy Lopez but can you do a variations video and how to counter them? All the best with the channel. Happy Chessboxing ✌🏼
hello mr igor
i am very thankful to you as because of you 1 reached 1200 elo from 600 elo in 3 months
The same dude
@@guneyedyn2717 that's nice
Congrats! I hope it is not just in this puzzle. :)
@@GMIgorSmirnov no its in real chess tournaments
Nice puzzle I calculated up to 1800 which is what I roughly have on lichess. I didn't see that mate tho. I calculated to take the pawn and then keep attacking the king and trade quins eventually having more pawns at the end game.
2nd or 3rd of these I've watched. Think they are excellent. Me, I think I got 1600 range in what I calc'd for black. Thanks.
There I was congratulating myself on seeing the lines up to winning the h7 pawn... then Igor pointed out the zugzwang (which I just hadn't seen!). Drat!
How long are you supposed to take to get that 2500 solution with all the calculations? or do you just find it within the introduction time?
1250 on Lichess and I got to around 1400. I saw the 3 candidate moves but I misread some of the lines, missing moves like queen f4 if king h6 and that king f8 queen h8 does not work because the rook is now hanging.
I somehow got 2500, probably because I watched a lot of your videos. I am a 2000 in rapid but I used to do a lot of puzzles.
I wanna see games played by youu in the tournaments
Hello Mr. Kramnik
I got 1800, didn't realize the opponent was in zugzwang so didn't get 2100, but thought the queen move looked best just out of intuition so I got 2500 😂😂 but I didn't calculate it so I'll stick with 1800
2100, yipeee.
I think that the hardest thing is playing at a decent level throughout the game.
Looks like I'd be somewhere between 1600 and 1800 based on this puzzle. I didn't see that the rook couldn't be captured. And the fact that after Kf8 I assumed black could force a trade of rooks made me not like Qe5+ as much as Re8 which at least keeps control of the e file, the one big asset white has at the moment.
Wow just wow
I have got the solution you have shown that makes my rating at2500. But I have got struck while calculating at Kh6 followed by Qf4+ followed by Kh5 from which I was not getting the continuation. After a long time I got the Rd5+ but in real game i am sure that in this position I will play g4 and then blunder my rook.
got to e5 check, king to h5 and easy checkmate, missed the king to f8, uugggg puzzles are good exercises.
nice
When will we be able to play in landscape mode ? Plz
I'm intrigued why people would stop calculating at "2100" when you have such a critical position and you've calculated all the way up to that point
*Puzzle 1*: 1. Qe5+ Kf8 (Kg8 or Kh8 loses queen) 2. tbd
Actually it not a zugzwang in 9:48 because of Rd6
It took me about 5-7 minutes to get to the 1800, and thats where I started to hit my wall. I maybe could have pushed harder, but decided to stop. How much time should we spend on this type of calculation? Sometimes when I do puzzles online I take upwards of 20 minutes haha. I also know that spending that much time is unrealistic in an actual game.
Qe5 is the move that I would naturally move in this position, and it's the only one that I've calculated in here... So I was surprised when he said that's exactly my level!
Unfortunately after black Kf8 I couldn't see Qf6, so I'm not higher level than 1600, for now 😀
1.Qe5+
1...Kh6 2.Qf4+ Kg7 (2.Kh5 Re5+ 3.Qg5 Qxg5#) 3.Qxf7+ and at least Rxd7 +-
1...Kg8 2. Re8+ Qxe8 3.Qxe8+ Kg7 4.Qxd7 +-
1...Kf8 2.Rxd7 Qxd7 3.Qh8+ and 4.Qxh7 +/- (there's probably something better tho)
Oh, an invincible rook - very nice tactic!
Dangg I'm 1922 rated rapid in online , but I got 1800 😂, I didn't even notice that black was on zugzwang 😂 , I gotta work on my visualisation ❤
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the move Qe8 is such a surprising move... I thought for sure that it was mate after Qf6
These videos are very cool 😎
Thanks! 😃
Kh6 is so much more complicated than you went over. Tons of lines
I got the line Qe5+ Kf8 Rxd7 QXD7 Ke7 Qxh7 Qe6 Qh5+ Kd7 Kf1 Kc6 Qe4+ Qxe4 Dxe4 B5 f4, i don't think this is in the video (this specific line) though i haven't seen it past the position tell me my exact decimal included rating.
Great video. Thanks. Mine was 1600
Nice work!
I found the variation that wins the h7 pawn after trading the rooks, but somehow missed that after Qe5 the black king can go to h6, so I did not calculate this line fully-
And 2800 if you saw that after Qe5+ Kf8 Qh8+ Kxe7, white is actually not lost because he has a perpetual check.
Yes but, doing that, White draws a game that could win
I think I could be pretty good at chess if I played then. I saw the check, saw the mates with Kh6, and saw the best move for black was Kf8. I'd already spent 2 minutes on it at that point, so I left the rest. Though I doubt I have all of the skills to actually be 1,600 Elo right now, I guess this means that at least I'm generally _capable_ enough to get to 1,600.
I calculated up to 1600 level. When I'm using I'm game analyze on the chess app I can play around with the pieces with more variations but in my mind I'm limited to how much I can visualize.
I was thinking of Qe5, Kf8; then a waiting move, but then I thought for black Rd5 would be a good move, and I did not find a good answer to it, rook exchange at best. But then again maybe I am missing something.
I didn't play chess in like 10 years and I figured out all the way to 2500 .. (took me like 6 minutes total for all moves together to calculate)
I doubt I am anywhere near though ..
I got 2100 but i was surprised you let the 1600 go easy off after saying winning rook and not asking to go for the forced checkmate in 6 with 1. Qf4+ Kg7 2. Qxf7 kh6 3. Qf4+ g5 4. Qf6+ kh5 5. g4+ kh4 6. Qh6# checkmate for more points.
8:10 it is not lost, it's a draw Qe5 Qh8 repetition. I chose this variation becase i wanted to take a shit quickly.
1400: I saw that Kh6 was forced, but couldn't find the next move.
Also alapin Sicilian opening vid
I'm 1036 elo in rapid.but I got 1600 elo rating in this puzzle
I calculated that Qe5+ Kf7 Qf6, but did not notice the rook was immune. I was trying to find smother mates to no avail. Perhaps in an actual game I would have seen it was immune as there was no other logical continuation. I did not see Qe8.