It's nice to see somebody chat about this in a balanced way. (Speaking as a current med student) I wonder if a lot of the negativity comes from a bit of jealousy... to me it seems like a great deal. More generalised hospital experience, pay (!), no fees, I wish that could be me tbh
It's difficult because I feel frustrated that suddenly it's possible to become a doctor without getting into £100K of debt (+ interest) so I understand the negativity 100% and think there's still lots of questions to be answered but i totally agree if i was looking at applying for medicine now this would seem like a sweet deal
I agree with the grade situation as well you make an excellent point. Also widening participation ie Southampton BM6 for A level students is BBB yes they do an extra year but it could be argued that the people moving into the apprenticeship have worked ie in a lawyers office or been a tutor or worked as an accountant therefore would have the skills they learn in Bm6 also many people have become great doctors having done badly at A levels (bad in terms of not AAA) but did a degree in a science field and then went to medicine and got firsts so to say those with ABB will be challenged comparatively is nonsense
Lydia, this was an excellent and balanced presentation. Thank you. I work at a university in the degree apprenticeship team. We are not currently a pilot location offering the medical doctor degree apprenticeship, and I don't know if our medical school will be considering it. However, I will promote your video to school and sixth-form college students who want to know more about this route.
I wonder about those side jobs whether it changes depending on background qualifications? E.g. if you already have a degree in the sciences or something similar working in Pathology. I just say that because I worked in pathology with an undergraduate degree in biology, and a masters in biosystematics. As not registered I could only go up to band 5 with that trust but in most maximum of band 3. It seems lower band pathology is in demand, I've only just stopped getting calls from recruiters. A lot of non-registered those with biology and biomedical degrees still want to do medicine so have laboratory skills that could be used.
Thats interesting - it would defo make sense to assign apprentices to jobs based on their skillset...especially if like you say pathology jobs are in demand. I also wonder if there would be a preference to those already working in the trust/within the NHS rather than grads coming from completely different careers and school leavers? It's hard to know how they will pick out 20 from potentially ?1000s of applicants
Would you want the apprenticeship qualified doctors to not be able to work abroad? Would you want the qualification to identify that the applicant is coming through a qualification route?? Have you looked at the course content?? Cause it’s literally the same as standard medicine
hey! I was discussing the fact that some people (comments online as well as when discussing with other students) are under the impression that you won’t be able to work abroad with the apprenticeship but looking at the course information it’s seems like this wouldn’t be the case so that’s great news for anyone considering the apprenticeship :)
@@LydiaMartinMedic I’m sorry the question was not meant specifically for you… there seems to be a general trend of real resentment towards the apprenticeship mostly from doctors themselves calling the whole thing “Poundland doctors” …”pretend doctors”etc etc … go to any comment section of social media post about it
Hey guys I'm doing medicine and surgery 4th year in Uganda... but I really would love to work in the UK after my training ... How can I bring my dream to life. And what requirements are needed.
In terms of grades in a level what would you need to get? Also what subjects would allow you on to this like bio and chemistry yes but how about other subjects like psychology and applied science?
Wondering why it’s being established though? Why not just increase places for medical school students? Also I would be so upset being so much in debt and not only do they get no debt, they also get paid? Seems a little unfair… rather decrease uni prices for students 😂
Yep exactly! they’ve created a few new medical schools in the last few years, why not see how that pans out /make more medical school places before introducing a whole new system ? Hard to understand what the reasoning is. Don’t get me started on the fees 😂
If you check Anglia Ruskin University website they have listed it under apprenticeships but you can currently view the information as applications are currently closed. According to their website the first medical apprenticeship course has started
It's nice to see somebody chat about this in a balanced way. (Speaking as a current med student) I wonder if a lot of the negativity comes from a bit of jealousy... to me it seems like a great deal. More generalised hospital experience, pay (!), no fees, I wish that could be me tbh
It's difficult because I feel frustrated that suddenly it's possible to become a doctor without getting into £100K of debt (+ interest) so I understand the negativity 100% and think there's still lots of questions to be answered but i totally agree if i was looking at applying for medicine now this would seem like a sweet deal
I agree with the grade situation as well you make an excellent point. Also widening participation ie Southampton BM6 for A level students is BBB yes they do an extra year but it could be argued that the people moving into the apprenticeship have worked ie in a lawyers office or been a tutor or worked as an accountant therefore would have the skills they learn in Bm6 also many people have become great doctors having done badly at A levels (bad in terms of not AAA) but did a degree in a science field and then went to medicine and got firsts so to say those with ABB will be challenged comparatively is nonsense
Lydia, this was an excellent and balanced presentation. Thank you. I work at a university in the degree apprenticeship team. We are not currently a pilot location offering the medical doctor degree apprenticeship, and I don't know if our medical school will be considering it. However, I will promote your video to school and sixth-form college students who want to know more about this route.
My understanding is they are introducing this to help with the NHS shortage. Take admin duties etc. off health professionals and onto those studying
I wonder about those side jobs whether it changes depending on background qualifications? E.g. if you already have a degree in the sciences or something similar working in Pathology. I just say that because I worked in pathology with an undergraduate degree in biology, and a masters in biosystematics. As not registered I could only go up to band 5 with that trust but in most maximum of band 3. It seems lower band pathology is in demand, I've only just stopped getting calls from recruiters.
A lot of non-registered those with biology and biomedical degrees still want to do medicine so have laboratory skills that could be used.
Thats interesting - it would defo make sense to assign apprentices to jobs based on their skillset...especially if like you say pathology jobs are in demand. I also wonder if there would be a preference to those already working in the trust/within the NHS rather than grads coming from completely different careers and school leavers? It's hard to know how they will pick out 20 from potentially ?1000s of applicants
Would you want the apprenticeship qualified doctors to not be able to work abroad?
Would you want the qualification to identify that the applicant is coming through a qualification route??
Have you looked at the course content?? Cause it’s literally the same as standard medicine
hey! I was discussing the fact that some people (comments online as well as when discussing with other students) are under the impression that you won’t be able to work abroad with the apprenticeship but looking at the course information it’s seems like this wouldn’t be the case so that’s great news for anyone considering the apprenticeship :)
@@LydiaMartinMedic I’m sorry the question was not meant specifically for you… there seems to be a general trend of real resentment towards the apprenticeship mostly from doctors themselves calling the whole thing “Poundland doctors” …”pretend doctors”etc etc … go to any comment section of social media post about it
Hey guys I'm doing medicine and surgery 4th year in Uganda... but I really would love to work in the UK after my training ... How can I bring my dream to life. And what requirements are needed.
When will they be available? Can't seem to find any
This is such a great video! Thank you vvv much for sharing ❤
I love your videos lydia! they’re always so helpful :)
Thank you! ❤️❤️
I'm thinking about going for the Nhs Doctor Apprenticeship but I don't have any A Levels
this is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what would your advice be for someone with a graduate with a low UCAT pretty please? Im so desperate to get in :(xx
In terms of grades in a level what would you need to get? Also what subjects would allow you on to this like bio and chemistry yes but how about other subjects like psychology and applied science?
go to 7:40, she explained it there
Hello, just one question. Would the medical apprenticeships consider our UCAT result?
I think this is a great idea! I am seriously considering it already. How does one apply?
How old are u bro I also want to try my best to apply I’m studying comp sci at uni I deeply regret my decision and want to go,persue medicine
Is it open to internationals?
Is it open to international students in the UK who want to switch?
Wondering why it’s being established though? Why not just increase places for medical school students? Also I would be so upset being so much in debt and not only do they get no debt, they also get paid? Seems a little unfair… rather decrease uni prices for students 😂
Yep exactly! they’ve created a few new medical schools in the last few years, why not see how that pans out /make more medical school places before introducing a whole new system ? Hard to understand what the reasoning is. Don’t get me started on the fees 😂
medicine is racially diverse … but it only covers a particular economic background currently!!
i want a sciency person to be the DOCTOR. someone who can outthink AI. Someone who got a 513 and above on their MCAT.
there is no link when u look up the links there is everything but nothing for medical apprenticeship
If you check Anglia Ruskin University website they have listed it under apprenticeships but you can currently view the information as applications are currently closed. According to their website the first medical apprenticeship course has started
but it’s not true
How can I apply for it thank you for the video so helpful 🙏🏻🤍