Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 - DEFAULT ATC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- With all the hype around of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, we decided to take a look at the default ATC. We will break down every part of the default ATC features and discuss whats new in the world of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020.
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Love your videos! As a 50+ year real life pilot as well as 36+ year flight sim pilot and owner of every version of MSFS along the way, I am very excited about this new version. I am actually having a new computer built just for this new sim. It's my retirement present to myself! A couple of comments... #1) FS will never be as real on every level as real life flying, so get over it. Vatsim is an incredible enhancement to the system. Other enhancements and addons, as in the past will keep coming and make it better and better. I have my other two sims (FS9 and FSX) on different computers and their own set ups and I have no intention of getting rid of either as I have over 20,000. hours invested and many hundreds of planes and helicopters that cannot be re-duplicated in FS20. On my other sims I run multiple (5) monitors on each system. On FS20, I am only going with a 49" curved monitor as well as one other small monitor for the various windows such as ATC and any other window(s) that I want open. Comment #2) This is for all pilots, both real and sim... ALWAYS complete a Pre-takeoff briefing on every flight that includes what you, as PIC, will do in the event of emergencies both on the ground with runway remaining and once in the air. Also... state at what minimum altitude and maximum distance from the departing airport a successful 180 degree turn to return to the airport can be made... and state out loud that once outside this envelope, a straight ahead landing will be made. (just know that some lower powered planes, there is no safe return envelope). In 50 years of real life flying, I have had three complete engine failures and pre-planning was the key to survival in all three. Always have the departure airport as your 1st waypoint in any flight plan so you will have distance from the airport during the takeoff. If possible, have the runway centerline extended by either loading an arrival approach or if able tune the OBS to extend the centerline. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for sharing BB, aprciate the kind words and extra support. Much aprciated :)
Questions I had when watching this:
1. How do you know what to set the barometric pressure to?
2. How to taxi would be a good video. I didn't understand the taxi instructions from the tower.
3. What did you set up on your displays at the beginning of the flight?
4. What's the difference between social and palm springs tower communications?
5. Explanation on the landing coms for upwind leg, crosswind leg, base leg etc.
No need to answer all these questions just things I was confused about when watching.
Love the content. Keep it up!
I can only answer 2 of these: barometric pressure is part of the ATIS (What you'll hear is: US: Altimeter xxxx in inHg, e.g. Altimeter 2992 (they don't say the decimal); World: QNH xxxx in mb/hPa, e.g. QNH 1013)
And taxi instructions are: [destination] via [name of first taxiway you need to use], [name of second taxiway], etc. "Cross runway x" means you have clearance to taxi across that runway when you get to it, and it's said in order. So the video's instructions were: your destination is the hold short point on RW 31L, to get there you'll use taxiway E, then taxiway D, then you have clearance to cross RW 31R, after which you'll be on taxiway D, then go on C, then A, and you'll arrive. It's a lot to remember, so if you're smart you'd have a pen nearby to write it down, and to know which taxiway is called what you'll have to look at the airport's charts (there are also signs on the airport ground but they only tell you the right taxiway not the right direction). If you still didn't get it just let me know what, and I'll try explain better.
He set up his navigation stuff while listening to atc just to save time later. . Upwind, leg, downwind etc... Are locations in the pattern at the airport. Every airport has a pattern direction and you notify which locations in the pattern you are.
This is the stuff that I love to see with this new sim. I’m currently going through the ATC academy to become an ATCS myself, and to hear that this sim is releasing while I’m in the middle of training makes me more excited than I can properly put into words. Thanks for the video!
Best of luck!
What do you think of the ATC
@@samyosef it's got some quirks for sure. The callsign read backs are pretty wonky, but hopefully easy to fix. (Would be nice if the civil guys were read correctly. Can't remember the number, but there was a southwest flight that the computer read as SWA instead of southwest, and the numbers should be group form.) I noticed the taxi instructions were slightly strange as well; ATC told the pilot to hold short of a runway then immediately gave them runway crossing clearance. Granted, I'm at the academy where things are done differently from out in the field, so I'm not an expert quite yet.
@@raymonddesrosiers6164 Thank you for the feedback, X plane ATC is unusable, MS 2020 sounds better. Good luck at the academy.
So cool to see this flight. So I just flew this exact route myself (Palm Springs -> Big Bear) 2 days ago in real life and the whole time I was thinking "How would this look in FS2020?". Thanks for answering this! Since I just recently flew this, here are my thoughts and comparisons (along with my thoughts on the ATC):
The Good:
- Normally entering LA airspace before you head into the mountains would be so busy you have a hard time getting anything in. However because of COVID there was a decent amount of dead space on the radios IRL, and I liked how that was reflected in the sim. I'd like to see what it's like if/when things return to normal
- Both airports looks really good for being auto-gen. Sure you don't get the details like the cool log-cabin style restaurant next to the control tower, but it's way more accurate than other flight sims. Runway width/length and bumpiness looked pretty spot-on
- Nice job with the landing. I pretty much did the exact same thing as you - came in too high first time so looped around the pattern, and overshot/was too high on my loop-around. I was in a Diamond Star DA40 though which doesn't have nearly as much drag so I ended doing another go-around. But I like how accurate the physics were in the sim. FSX and X Plane I could have easily put the plane down on that first approach
- Correct runways were selected for takeoff at Palm Springs, and correct landing runway for Big Bear
- Scenery as always looks amazing
Things that Could Improve:
- Biggest gripe so far on ATC in FS2020 is that it sounds like it was taken directly from FSX and added a "mic" filter to it. ie, the voices don't sound realistic, it still takes a while to generate the speech after you select the option. With TTS tech we have today (especially with Azure), I would have thought this would be much much better
- The phraseology is still too simplistic and just wrong a lot of the time:
+ Nobody says "Contact Tower on one-two-five decimal eight". It's just "one-two-five point eight", or even just "point eight" for switching between airport frequencies. I've never heard any ATC out in SoCal say "decimal"
+ Was super weird that they handed you off to SoCal Approach after takeoff only to immediately hand you off again
+ Sometimes they were way too specific on your instructions, something that wouldn't happen especially near LA
- I'm guessing TFRs aren't implemented. In real life there is a TFR up to 13,500ft on the direct route you took due to the fire out here
For the default sim this is incredible. Graphics are amazing and physics and sounds are gorgeous. Great sporty landing too! But I think the ATC has a lot to be improved on in my opinion.
And FYI in US (at least SoCal) we pretty much always announce entering pattern, downwind, and final (and go-around). We'll announce other positions if there are other aircraft nearby
Great insightful comment
I'm very curious to see if there will be a voice change mod for the ATC communication. Kind of like how you can change siri's voice
@@phillipssimracing9585 Unless Asobol invests heavily into a much better AI, I'd rather see the ATC services the extendable into the SDK, so third parties can make a much better system
Why are you calling it MSFT2020?
Great insight - thank you for your comment. FYI if you want proper nested bullet-points in your text use Alt+Num7 to drop a • character, and Alt+Num9 for a ○ character :)
They should make the voices distinct and different. It's more difficult to keep up with whose taking to who. In the real world you depend on the sounds of voices for cues.
I hope MS will give us an option for different voice input for ATC like a female voice.
@@samyosef Couldn't' agree more.
they use official microsoft voice packs (english US is recommended), so its going to be a little difficult to handle it. but female voices should be present in the packs (not sure though)
As a former air traffic controller, the default ATC isn't terrible, but it needs some work based on what I've witnessed here and other videos. Most of the phraseology is correct, and most of the instructions are clear and make sense, but there are moments here and there that absolutely triggers my OCD. For example, the controller states the runway following "cleared for takeoff." This is minor, but the 7110.65 states the proper phraseology as "runway (number), cleared for takeoff." This is spoken in this order for a reason.
Another, larger issue I have.... It seems that in other videos, the tower controller is far too quick in instructing an aircraft that has just landed to contact ground. This should only be done when the controller is able to anticipate the aircraft being clear of the runway, or the aircraft is already clear. Sending an aircraft to ground while it is still completing its rollout on an active runway is dangerous.
Furthermore, there are moments where the AI ATC isn't as fluid or as smart as it should be. For example, a plane taking off and the controller says "I will contact you next when you're leaving my airspace" ....only to follow up literally 2 seconds later with "contact departure..." This is unnecessary verbage that clutters up the frequencies, especially in busier terminal environments. If an aircraft is already on the verge of leaving the AI ATC's airspace, it should either hand the aircraft off a mile off the departure end, or simply wait until it's the appropriate time to call up the aircraft again. This is one reason why"after departure..." instructions in IFR clearances are important.
Also, it will be interesting to find out if the controllers at military bases specify the wind in takeoff clearances, and "check wheels down" in landing clearances.
Agree with the above, also... the pilot does not call ground for jetway, catering, fuel, gpu etc. These requests from an airline crew would normally go through company ops. And as mentioned above the excessive verbiage is painful... stop saying “please” with every request. “Please sir, may I have some fuel, please sir may I have catering”... Pilot/ATC also do not include aircraft type in every transmission. The ATC has tremendous potential but they need to get some ATC subject experts involved. Hopefully this is still WIP.
They also need more voice actors for ATC, Kennedy Steve would spice things up. 😉
@@TheGunterGlieben YES! ❤️
@@TheGunterGlieben Yeah, I fully agree with ya. I wasn't 100% sure how those things were handled, as I was a USAF controller, and while I had assumed that stuff was handled via company communications, I didn't want to venture into an area I had very little knowledge about lol
But yeah, it has SO MUCH POTENTIAL... And the majority of the work has been done, it just needs a bit of polish and shine! I'm excited to see the final product, and I'm even more excited to see what the future holds for ATC in FS2020, both in what the developers and what the modders bring to the table.
I like how he directs you straight into the side of successive mountains at 14:35.
Yes, violating all kinds of FARs! 😂 Minimum clearance in mountainous regions is 2000 ft. And right as he passes, the terrain warning system calls out "500"
"Didn't direct me into the side of a mountain" Though it did bring you within 500 ft of a ridge and you were headed towards another mountain before the cut.
True...but I think *technically* that was the pilot's fault. He filed his own flight plan and chose his own altitude, AFAIK. The ATC in the game doesn't check your flight plan for problems, it just tells you to proceed "as filed". The pilot would need to check the height of any mountains in the way. I could be wrong.
He was also not at his assigned 10k feet, he was around 9k when the 500 feet warning kicked in.
@@NYRavage Yeah the assigned altitude is supposed to be a minimum to avoid any 'object collisions' along his flight plan.
Great vid, Big Bear is an airport I've enjoyed flying to many times in FSX, can't want to land there with the amazing new scenery!
I wish that when you tune ATIS that it wouldn't always start from the beginning. In real life you are just as likely to tune in during any point in the record and might need to wait for it to loop.
Didn’t it do this in the last Microsoft Flight Sim? I thought I remember tuning into the middle of it on steam edition
You need to check all options in the menu, I set my comms not to come up when starting a game, nor does my checklist or any other interactive bix
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Great job man! Its good to see people posting videos and reviews of MFS2020, really gives another look at it. Thanks for the video.
Ik. Because I'm new to Sims and it does give a good breifimg on what to do so thanks!
Thanks for watching!
I'd like to see regional accents. When you talk to a flight controller at Scottish Centre you don't expect to get a person speaking with an American accent.
Extremely well stated! Not only that, but it applies the other way around too! For instance, In the United States we don't say "one one niner _decimal_ four", for 119.4. We simply say "one one niner _point_ four" From what I'm made to understand, that is a very European thing. Things like this make it feel real weird, for me as a real world commercial pilot!
@@747-pilot is there other phraseology that you find strange or incorrect in the ATC that makes it seem unrealistic, or in general in terms of its procedures or lack thereof?
@@igvc1876 While I've not listened to the default ATC extensively, from the few encounters I've had with it, I can definitely say that, overall, it is pretty unrealistic. There are few instances here and there, where it exactly matches real world comms and procedures. But then there are huge segments that have no basis in reality whatsoever. Looks like they were able to obtain some communications that were accurate, and then whatever was missing they just used their best guess. For example, the exchange between the pilot and controller, when requesting _VFR flight following_ is pretty accurate, but elsewhere it is completely off the charts wrong (For example, ATC would not vector you in certain ways, or do certain other things, like they do in this sim)!
@@747-pilot Got it, thanks so much, really appreciate your input. What about purely in terms of phraseology? When I listened to live ATC online it seems a lot more "diverse" and sort of chatty sometimes even. I understand that ATC chat should be very structured and strict, but at least to me (i've only taken a few real flight lessons), sim ATC seems way too robotic. Do you get that feeling or is it just me? Maybe it's just the voice, or perhaps the fact that they use the same exact sentence every time ha. Thanks again
@@747-pilot another quick question - I am working on an ATC addon to improve these issues and others. I am a developer, and not a pilot (though took flight lessons in the past), and I am looking to collaborate with a pilot on the phraseology and such. Could pay for an initial consultation and possibly further - please let me know if it's something you'd be interested in discussing in private. Thanks again :)
Would be cool to see if the battery could actually die if you didn’t connect a gpu... love your videos btw, keep it going!
Yes it will die and displayed in the sim. Thanks
Awesome, but definitely room for improvement. Other comments have already covered the obvious. I love that you can apply real world practices to this sim, entire time I was wanting to write down the atc instructions on a knee note board.
Surprised to see official adoption of the word "for" in readbacks (eg. "135.275 for Cessna 123"), given a lot of instructors drill students not to do this.
Yes, I agree! But this is the least of the problems in this ATC implementation. I can see a ton of other issues that are not accurate either. I've pointed some of them out in another post on here. For the love of God, I would advise any VFR or IFR student to *_not use_* this as a substitute to practice ATC comms!!! Doing it just for fun might be OK, but even then, if someone is a also a real world pilot, I would fear that they may develop some bad habits from some of this erroneous phraseology!
@747-pilot please consider sending your list through to Asobo. I’ve heard they’re pretty good at responding to this sort of feedback (phraseology in particular will be a simple change to a string table).
Just a professional opinion on it. A lot of it is semi discretional. Like there’s set rules on what to say obviously in the 7110 and Fac man but you can adjust to what fits you as long as it’s appropriate to get the info to the pilots in a normal manner per say
Aaah yes, the Cessna "A U S 1 2 Tree". I have a feeling that the guys at Asobo did everything from scratch.
Great video. This is the best video I have seen so far demonstrating the ATC in FS2020. In the past I have used 124th ATC in Xplane which worked fairly well. I was glad to see that ATC talks to other aircraft besides just you.
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Correct Callsigns need to be implemented. No real ATC would say "SWA to a Southwest Airlines flight.
True. But this is the feature where the sim is receiving real world flight info from FlightAware, and the callsigns transmitted into the sim are abbreviated, as they appear in FlightAware. The sim would need specific programming, or at least a manual override menu, to translate the abbreviated company names into real call signs.
I think that will be possible when we get the SDK and can build our own AI Traffic. I've seen videos where people type in their own callsigns for their flights and the sim reads it back ok. This is great because in FS, the sim wouldn't read back your callsign unless it was in the Callsigns list and the sounds file. You had to use EditVoicePack to add callsigns to the sim if the callsign wasn't already in. Looks like you don't have to do that anymore for your own flight, and I hope you don't have to do that for your AI traffic anymore. We'll see when the SDK comes out and we learn how to build AI and AI Traffic.
The way it could work is for the sim to use Ai to read the actual callsign. I remember in older versions of FS you could add a list of callsigns to the sim and it would read them as you added them.
@@jetBlue_83 Yep, but the callsign also had to be in the sounds file, which is a binary file (I think it was sounds.dll). You had to edit it with a tool called EditVoicePack by adding a voicepack file that actually had the sounds associated with the callsign. Then you had to recompile the sounds file, which would take a while. After that, you could use the callsign in your own flights and/or associate it with AI planes.
Same can be said for using the airport identifier instead of saying "Big Bear traffic."
I feel like a kid at Christmas.. so friggn excited. I can't wait for Tuesday when it releases!
Default ATC is surprisingly bad for a realistic sim like this. It sounds like there is only one controller in the whole world with only one robotic voice. The whole system needs more work for sure! Great video!
UnleashedFX And, judging by voice, the controller is pilot’s identical twin 🤔
Yeah, I find even FSX voices better (this MSFS2020's voice gives me flashbacks from X-plane 11's nightmare of an ATC system).
Better and more realistic than the x plane 11 ATC
Yep.
Even FSX had way better ATC than X-Plane 11.
The secret to XP11 ATC is to turn off all AI traffic. The AI traffic is garbage that flies in random directions causing ATC to literally send you in circles until you run out of fuel.
Looks like FSX ATC, which I never really had a problem with (except for always being told to go to General Aviation parking). Can't wait for the SDK so I can fill the skies with AI.
I never noticed a big difference in X-Plane ATC and what I am seeing here, but I’m not using A-I traffic. I didn’t realize it would make that much difference. I’ll try it and make a fool of myself. 😝
Nice job Shane as usual! Thanks for doing this 18 days of flight sim. I look forward to it every day.
I wish we had a text based communication system like that in real life! It would make ATC communications so much more precise and error free!
I've been hoping for some major improvements to the ATC in FSX but this looks like basically the same thing, even carrying over all the unrealistic stuff like "continue as planned". ATC is always going to give you a way to get on course after takeoff, whether it's a departure procedure or just a vector. They also *did* seem to basically vector you into a mountain, giving you an altitude of 8,800 feet in an area where there are 9,950 foot mountains. I did see you go up to 10,000 on your own. They then cleared you for a visual approach, which is all FSX ever did, so I was disappointed to see it here. (btw, stay on with ATC on an IFR visual approach; use that second radio!) I see that you can still manually ask for other approaches, but that probably means that any AI traffic is going to be using the visual approach, not whatever would more likely be in use at the time. So if you do fly a more realistic approach, you're potentially going to be conflicting with all the other traffic coming in. (Visual approaches aren't uncommon, but they're the only thing FSX ever assigned so I feel like that's probably just carried over along with everything else.)
I feel like this system is still in need of a major revamp. I'm probably going to give VATSIM a go again until then, although VATSIM certainly has its problems too. I really would like realistic default ATC and I feel like it's close enough that it shouldn't really be all that hard to fix it. But as it is, its problems are bad enough that it makes it impossible to fly in a realistic way. It is better than X-Plane's and FSX's always was too, but it doesn't seem like they've done much of anything to improve it in FS2020.
A lot of this is re-hashed FSX. I see many similar problems already.
wish there were more voices for the ATC instead of using 1 voice
I have a feeling there will be in the final version, or added soon after.
Yes. The voices also need slight pauses where there are commas in the written text so that they sound more natural. I'm still spoiled by the ATC in Flight Unlimited III that came out in 1999! This is a clip from the previous version, but listen to that ATC voice! th-cam.com/video/022zfnC63l4/w-d-xo.html
@@jpennin1 FU 2 & 3 awesome games
@@jpennin1 I'd also like the option of having the ATC voices in America say "point" instead of "decimal".
Microsoft has stated that MSF2020 would be using Azure voices, which there are quite a few of them with differing accents.
FS 2020 is looking better all the time Thanks Mate for the Great Vids
Does ATC handle emergencies? That would be cool. At least give you directions to nearest airport and requesting souls count.
All Maydays must be requested
There is no damage model in this game, so emergencies unfortunately can't happen.
The ATC voices are so much easier on the ears this time around
idk i feel like fsx did a better job with atc voices than mfs2020
I was already excited to click and then I heard music by UTAH and was right at home.
My God! The graphics in the scenery look great!!!
A good scenic flight you can do is KBFL-L05. Bakersfield to Kern Valley is a popular GA flight a lot of people do to fly into the Lake Isabella in California.
Autogenerated Big Bear in MSFS is on par with hand-made from FSW. That's why I'm definitely buying MSFS, don't need any Orbx/Ortho scenery out of the box
You touched down pretty much on the landing marker, so well done.
As a real world pilot something I do not see very often with simmers is the forward slip. If one is too high on landing just forward slip to land. Plane looses altitude fast with out gaining airspeed. X-plane11 handles this perfectly, so its good to practice in the sim, curious how it works in MFS2020. Side note, Big Bear has some pretty hard core departure and approch procedues for noise abatement.
Love it man. Perfect video. Only bad thing is its not a PA-28 😅
Ha ha ha
"It didn't slam me into the side of a mountain"...... Em am I the only who saw you climb around 15:00 to avoid a hill despite ATC telling you to maintain altitude?
I've just noticed and I was looking for someone how had already commented before writing the same myself...
That's True, but I had options for vectors at that stage from memory.
I think he was supposed to be at 10000 and was at 9000
@@Lord_Godd Nope. The 10,000ft was for a different flight (FFT269). AUS123 was cleared for 8,800ft at the time of reaching the mountain range and without manual correction he would have flown into terrain at that altitude.
Yeah I saw that too, th-cam.com/video/tIhpQW3zrj4/w-d-xo.html
did this flight as my first solo cross country...great vid sir😌👍
Great vids Shane, keep up the great work mate. Looking forward to seeing more MSFS 2020.
Big Bear is one of the first airports I wanted to visit after launch, I’m pretty stoked that it was featured in this video.
Thanks! Been waiting for some coverage on this ;) Sounds better, def better than XP.. Its a good start, as a few others have mentioned it could still use some work but hopefully at the least its a good base for some 3rd party love.
I think that it would be really nice if there was a third party mod for damage and crash or asobos implements that in the future.
Enter left base then forward slip. Left turn to final approach by the numbers.
Curious about basic controls. How do you look around, zoom in, use the mouse, etc. Also a quick tutorial on the Garmin for people who don't know much about it
That's going to depend on the controller you are using. Sticks and yokes usually have a hat switch that is used for looking around. Pretty sure you can do mouse-look as well. I couldn't tell you about xbox controllers. As far as using the Garmin, search for X-plane tutorials for that as the G1000 should function mostly the same as there.
The best sounding Cessna for flight simulator!
You came in fast. Nice landing.
Yeah to high, and of course. Thanks.
The one thing that would really push immersion over the top would be if the ATC could use voice recognition and let you actually speak your side of the conversation. I realize that would be a challenge, but I don’t think it would be impossible.
You hit that line guy with your left-wing
awesome stuff mate and I like this video😀👍
I really hope they tune it a bit. Listening to them say "Ten Thousand Feet" instead of "One Zero Thousand" hurts my soul.
Yes, indeed! When you add it all up (there are many other deficiencies, that I've pointed out in another post above), it substantially decreases the "realism" of the ATC system!
Literally no one besides IRL pilots notices or cares.
@@MentalParadox u know it's a flight simulator right
@@randomhiphop5055 u know it's still a PC game and not a real simulator right
Tim Suetens flight sims like this are used extensively in real world flight training and instrument procedure practice.
Quite a few errors in verbiage and procedures that show ATC was not a high priority in the design. Its a game I know but they could have done a bit more research. Maybe these can be fixed in the future.
1. When saying altitudes the word "feet" is not normally used
2. When saying a frequency the word "decimal" should be "point".
3. When told to taxi to a runway ATC does not tell you to "hold short" of that same runway, that is already assumed.
4. On initial call to departure control their response would not be "continue as planned", it would be "radar contact maintain 12,000".
5. When reading the altimeter setting it should not include the word "decimal".
6. Once airborne for some reason a second IFR clearance was given, that would never happen.
7. Told to decend to 8,800 but mountains were in the way. IFR can't be very realistic if ATC has no idea if your going to hit a mountain.
8. ATC never cleared the aircraft for an approach, maybe because the frequency was changed without ATC authorization. But being that close to the arrival airport a clearance would have already been received.
Great vdeo (as always). Question: I noted that the weather conditions mentioned on the ATIS don't seem to match the actual weather conditions. Example, the Big Bear visibility said 3 miles but the weather was CAVU. Reason for this?
Thanks
good vid i liked it. esp the legs
Glad you enjoyed
I pre-ordered this and requested a return after watching your video... thanks! ATC is just horrific
it tried to fly you into the mountain! 15:09 atc did not give you an altitude increase to clear the mountain!
I think I had the option for vectors from memory.
During that pattern flying you know how many pilots who were watching were screaming 'Too High!' at the screen? yeah that is right ALL of them, lol.
Seems very similar to FSX - thanks for posting
Hey aus flight, can you do a quick vid of bindoon because in X-Plane and all others sims it’s been in the wrong texture like the runway is asphalt and in X-Plane it was grass!!
But it’s not, it’s just how the ai interpreted the airfield and when I went to maps it had a green glow so I hope that the ai for mfs is better
Nice, big thing I heard you say was being able to put items on a second screen. Thanks!!
Do you know if ATC can recognize a rejected takeoff?
You can conduct a missed approach.
Aus Flight Simmer so no.
@@sjcpilot he just said you can do it
@@WhiteHawk77 wdym
@@WhiteHawk77 what?
When you're taxing onto the runway, there's no need to follow the yellow line. Pull straight up and make a sharp turn when you reach the middle.
I had plenty of run way, so didn't feel need to do a it. If it was a small GA airport, the yes. The for checking out the video.
@@AusFlightSimmer btw, im wondering if there will be an option to speak to the AI atc, instead of just pressing numbers. Great way to practice before joining vatsim
That is very good, they are saying three as tree and five as fife, which is correct.
Yep :)
Is that actually correct? Lol i was about to comment about that
@@cplegend Yes, that is the correct pronunciation.
That ramp agent is inside the movement area. I hope he has clearance from the ATCT.
Would have been good to see ATC handling a flight into a controlled airfield, and using a STAR approach.
great video as always :)
Thank you
I know I'm being picky , but the voices are a little "harsh". Still much better than any other sim. Listen to LiveATC and you will know what I mean. Nice video!
I dunno, I was taught to set up flaps/70 at 1500 as I passed the threshold on downwind, so descending in base.
What's confusing to me actually, is the voices of the ATC and Pilot sound the same, so it's hard, even though you can read it on the screen, to hear the differentiation while looking at flying screens like speed, altitude and head, and making adjustments. The voices are so similar I find myself having to look at what is spoken to figure out who said it, in lieu of hearing the different voice and recognizing and making adjustments.
I know you can read the ATC, but hearing the different voice is better in my opinion, then reading to backup what is said.
It would have been interesting to see ATC vector you to the airport. This is really where FSX ATC was struggling, pretty much zig-zagging you to destination with vectors that did not make sense. In the situation tested in the video, the FSX ATC would have also done a good job.
I've flown in and out of Big Bear a few times and it looks just about the same!! Only thing they would need to add is the restaurant.
Can you show us some Australian content, airports, cities please. Enjoy the channel
We don’t really use the term “decimal” in the US. That’s a Euro thing.
What do you use? I have no idea im european lol
That's world wide thing
“Point” or a perceptible pause is pretty common. So it’s “one twenty-two point eight five”. “Decimal” is common where metric is used. We typically use periods where metric-oriented countries use the comma. I think Canada still uses “point” though.
@@obriets Ah, thanks for the clarification
“ Point” is for chads...decimal has too many syllables 😂. “Ground point niner good day”
Love the MFS2020 content, awesome stuff .
Out of interest, once engine startup has completed by the human pilot, Is it possible to designate control to the AI pilot for comms & a/c taxi to the runway, and then retake control once ready for line-up?
Same for landing, can you handover control to AI when clearing the runway so that the AI controls the a/c to the gate/ramp? Appreciate the sim is still pre-release.
Keep up the great work.
You can switch the AI on and off, but I haven’t explored to that depth. Sorry.
I think I'd have a hard time being a pilot without the ATC history being on the screen because I have a terrible time with short term memory. By the time the tower read out the squawk code, I had already forgotten the frequency right before it. And all the taxi instructions... which runway, which taxiways, cross what runway again? Which taxiways after that? Forgotten almost immediately after hearing them. :( I was one of those kids in school that took longer to finish exams because by the time I read through all of the multiple choice options, I had completely forgotten what the question was.
Enjoyed the video. The ATC window options tended to block the view out the left side of the window, though. Thanks for the video.
You can minimize it or pop it out to a second screen if you would like.
@@AusFlightSimmer Well, you can, in the game, but not whilst watching the video. LOL But, yeh, I do intend to do that, at this end, on my second 46" monitor. :)
To be completely honest this ATC is exactly the same ATC which was in FSX but in new graphics coat and thats it. Franky I'm little bit disappointed with this. Of course it will be little bit better thanks to route planning which includes STARs and SIDs and transitions and hopefully ATC will be able to give them to you but havent seen this in this video. Only difference I saw in this video is that in FSX you could show your taxi route on/off to make it visible and game displayed yellow arrows where to taxi to runway or from runway to gate :)
Hope you make a video explaining all the help in the game for beginners
Will do.
good job I like this it is like the old time with x plane9.70 ATC did the same.
Two questions:
1 - Are there power lines in this sim? I haven't seen any in the videos so far.
2 - Is there a replay system?
I saw in another video that currently in the Beta version there is no replay function.
I don’t like that ground crew member lurking around ...why is he parked, so annoying! That guy should be fixed in the next update
Many thanks for starting to use the keyboard shortcuts. Could you describe what key command does what while you're doing the videos for we who need to see with our ears, so we can't see what you're doing.
Please could you add just a slight more audio description about what your doing when you do it?
Many thanks and please keep up the great work you do when you do the videos.
Ron AKA The Blind Pilot who ca
No more wacky vectors in the terminal area,and no nagging on altitude changes,that's a start. I wonder how the ATC SDK will be for 3rd party developers?
awesome video!
Can you show multiplayer?
Yep, will do.
Thanks for putting out all this awesome content for the new sim, super excited to play it and I’ve already got a copy preordered. One question though: the FPS when you were on the ground before the flight started/ taxiing was kind of unsettling. Are you playing on ultra? What’s your experience with overall performance in the sim? Thanks
It's a shame they are not using more variation with the voices. I'm pretty sure the AzureAI is running the text to speech as well. Surely they can spend some time playing with it. Some natual pauses, etc.
You were coming in high and fast. I’d recommend pulling power to idle in that situation and let the plane sink. You had it at 1300 rpm until you transitioned to land
I noticed the yoke didnt move as you changed the pitch attitude during landing.
Unrelated question: What is the consensus on where to purchase MSFS? Is it better to purchase direct from Microsoft or is purchasing on Steam fine? I guess my question relates to ease of access, download speeds, timeliness / access to updates and 3rd party content etc. Which option is recommended by the community? Thanks.
For a default airport, that looks pretty good. I was comparing it with the real one by looking at Google Maps, and everything looks like it's in the right spot. I'm not sure about those roads in Big Bear, though. They were a bit... green. The ATC needs work. It'll get you through the day, but this was one area I really, really hoped would be seriously improved since FSX. Also, does anyone think that voice sounds familiar? I think it might've been used for one of the chatter voices in an old X-Plane version or something else. Sure sounds familiar.
i dont know what they’re saying, but it sounds cool
I'd like to know what the differences between standard airports and hand crafted are (standard Heathrow vs Premium Heathrow)
seemed odd that you would use small airport for this example I would think you would demonstrate the ATC at a busy controlled airfield so we could see how the ATC handles traffic on the airport and landing and departing from the airport ??
Very nice video Aus. This is my neck of the woods. So the only thing i didn't like about what i saw in this new sim so far is when listing to ATIS, it goes way to fast and would sound more realistic if it slowed down like Steam Addition. And the other thing i would like to see changed is instead of say decimal point, is to get rid of the word decimal and just say point. This is how we say it in SoCal or the US for that matter. I do know in Europe decimal is commonly used in there language. Other than that, i liked what i saw. Oh and AUS, i was wondering why you had the ATC and MAP windows open off the sides of the screen? I always align them off to the upper left of the screen so you don't block your full vision. That's just me. :-)
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But what about the AI traffic? Hopefully we get accurate AI models and liveries
You can choose between realistic ai models and generic models if you want better fps. I'm not too sure about liveries though