In the year 2008, I sent a letter to their pastors asking for prayers for me and my family. in return, they sent me a letter asking for CASH DONATIONS to their church!! Those practices are NOT Bible based.
The first mistake you made was to think there were any pastors in that building. I am sorry you were deceived. I hope you and your family are well now.
Well first off, a church that size, did you really think they were going to pray for you individually in letter format unless you actually went to the church yourself and met them? Which if so, they do pray for their congregants after services. A ministry of that size not only releases so many letters now electronically, but also receives so many letters and emails, mainly prayer requests with money in them in most cases. It sounds harsh, but they can't individually pray for you the way you wanted them to.
I emailed them like 7 years ago asking if they could pray for me because I was sick. However, they never replied, not even an automated email saying that they got my email. 😂😂😂😂😂
Nobody said he didn't take an envelope or 2, that money was a retirement for somebody there, imagine them hearing the news somebody found their stash 😂
@texas legend Well the question is, to which God? Also, if the God you talk to is Jehovah, scripture says to not forsake the assembling of yourselves together.
This shows me how damn honest a real tradesmen is ! I am a mechanic and I have returned cash, extra tools, keys, credit cards etc all found while I was working on peoples cars. Good on ya plumber 👍
@@gusbalcazar4927 bro Osteen is not a good guy. He charges money for the word of God and drives expsensive cars and lives a rich livestyle. In the Bible God said be careful for those who profit off of the word/ the Bible etc. He is one of the best speakers I’ve ever seen unfortunately and the persona he puts on it amazingly fake face
Remember when this "church" closed it's doors on the public when hoston flooded? Mattress mac opened his and let hundreds of ppl sleep on his brand new mattresses and furniture he was selling at the time. He took a major loss, while Joel Osteen did a p.r. circuit. One's a man of God, the other one is Joel osteen.
@Boz Scaggs or maybe a God that is so powerful that if you just obey you’ll be alright. Why would you want a sugar coated life experience, you need to go through it so God can read your heart. That’s what it’s about, how can God read your heart without any real challenges?
@@thornil2231 if he never existed he by far tops any other "fictional character" ever conceived. Christ will dominate any of your favorite comic book or whatever person you look up to real or not. Maybe you just don't want a relationship with big brother Christ but through my life experience a simple prayer to God was answered with the help of his son the very same day I put my complete faith and intention behind it. So maybe your mind is too loud and congested with doubt for your prayers to be heard but you seem hardheaded and prideful. Not here to entertain someone who isn't willing to get themselves out of their own way.
And Jesus tossed those money hungry thief’s out of the Temple! God wants His children to prosper but not in the worldly way people like J.O. & other such false teachers!
You know what I was thinking about that and how ppl still give the church money in tithes and offering and the church can't even help the community when they need help.
@@Yeshualivess That $600k would have been plenty to refurbish the church after using it as a shelter in the flood. Shame on them for shutting people out when in need.
They didn't open the doors because the proper staffing was not in place. One would only have to look at the Georgia Dome during Katrina with the rapes and suicide to know being understaffed is a disaster waiting to happen.
@@lucuslopez6866 Its wrong. No man of God would surround himself with material possessions like that. Just because its not against the law does not mean it is ethical or adhere to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Amish farmers are way closer to God than the Osteens.
When a “man of the book” wears $2000 suits, lives in mansions with several “vacation properties”, and has multiple luxury cars/ man toys, people should question his motives…..Not send him their hard earned money like mindless goats!
Eventually his followers will drink the kool aid and end up like Jim Jones church members. It's a shame that people are so brainwashed they'll go to his church give him money make him super rich but won't help the homeless or feed the poor. Jesus said that during His return He will tell people like this. I NEVER KNEW YOU. workers of lawlessness.
You guys are missing the point. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, Jesus, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus died on that cross for all our sin and in all our sin and took the wrath of God for us. That precious blood that spilt from Jesus is the blood that washes all sin away. For He is the Lamb that was slain and He is our Risen Everlasting Father. Look to Jesus and accept His precious blood for everlasting life with Him in paradise. There is no greater love than the love of Jesus our Mighty God and Savior the Christ of God and Son of God our God is One ❤️
@@likenl4508 I actually think you are the one missing the point. I know what the Bible says and I know of what you just said. But what you are missing is that the Osteens are false prophets who are taking advantage of people by exploiting them USING Jesus and/or God as their means of exploitation. Something doesn't smell right about this story at all.
@@edlane1883 yes but we can condemn him all we want if He truly knows Jesus He can be forgiven easier than breathing. We all make mistakes and hide things from others my point is Jesus does not care what you've done He's always right there ready to forgive you if you have a repenting heart. He's not an angry God out to get us His love is unending. We must not exploit His Gospel or use His Word for money God forbid... but if you do surely you can still be forgiven instantly.
He did the right thing not taking it he is more honest than Joel Osteen could ever be!!! It was put there for a reason if it was all just cash!!! I think it was reported stolen for a reason!!! Should give that plumber 10% of what was found !!! God bless that hard working plumbing for being honest God saw it I guarantee that !!!
Be wise otherwise the feds control what you can speak about. And if you violate they can force you to pay back everything ever. Hence why they havent been allowing exemptions for certain things. Get me? Ask me how i know.
Who is they? The mega churches? Sure. I can agree that a church that operates like a business should be held for taxation. A smaller church in Sisterscrew Arkansas with a 20 person congregation that utilizes most of what comes in from tithing into local charity work? No because they would not be able to do that charity work.
me: Rev.Olsteen may I use your rest room please after service J0: please be my guest why do you have sledge hammer me: I'm sorry I thought I grabbed my walking cane 😅
When will people realize this is a business , not a church. This is a business run by slick , smart business men, and count on people believing what they say.
@@JoeZamecki It means that it's a building. Is made out of greed. Jesus didn't need gold silverld. Private jets And More money than they would ever be able to spend.. And donating to some charity doesn't mean. still doesn't take off the fact that worldwide there are people literally dying of hunger.. The problem is that some people think they are too God. Money brings power. But you can't buy God and God is going to let people know who he is.. We are most definitely living in different times. God has gotten fed up people. Be ready.👑🙏🏽
@@NikeRunner210 Guessing your "@name" is because of your personality...but to bring politics in to this is something only a Leftist/Democrat like yourself would do. You want to talk hypocrite? How about Democrats keeping the southern border open while shutting all the other borders down, then blaming on Trump. The kids in cages were Obama, that the Left blames Trump for. Even better, all the rich, white, elitist Democrats trying to tell minorities how oppressed they are, and about the systemic racism that rears it's ugly head in Democrat run cities, that have minority City Councils, Mayors, Chief of Police, etc...better yet, how about the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democrats trying to talk Russian collusion, when in reality it's been proven that it was the Clintons and Democrats that are guilty of the Russian collusion.
They're the ones who hid the money; he will not be getting anything from Lakewood but an invitation to become a member so that his hard earned money can be collected.
That's Christianity in general. Wait for a sky daddy to make you a better person and put your sin and responsibility on...it's kinda been a theme in that religion for over 2k years.
“For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all.” Luke 8:17
Seriously, he didn’t want anyone in the church during a hurricane ??? That’s terrible, a church is suppose to provide refuge if it in a safe area !!! He will answer to God some day !
@@darkpisces8125 How? I have an old Kj1611 Bible. You are definitely dumb. Did you even read to Understand instead of asking a dumb question. Only women like you try to shame me for knowing what I'm talking about. You don't even know. Stupidity.
anyone who doesnt trust banks or government. not speaking up for olsteen(hes a charlatan) but its your money its not anyone elses business what you do with it where its at how you got it
Sonia B The man who found the money has ALREADY been rewarded with something worth more than money. Honesty and integrity. From this point on, "more will be given, and he will have an ABUNDANCE."
@@lahondafolk4334 yep, that’s what I was thinking. I’ve never seen a “church” without a cross. The church without the name of Jesus or a Saint on the sign outside yet Joel & Vickie’s names are on there. I’ve never been to the “Lakewood” church but the main arena area I have never even see a cross there either… 😒.
I have listened to joel osteen’s sermons and just get an ick feeling in my gut. that’s enough for me to know something is off regardless of his large church or mansions or toys. I don’t see why others aren’t more i touch with this gut.
Amen he sure is, guys like Warren, Furtick, Hinn etc the list is LONG. Those “speakers” are making so many heretical errors at every Sunday service yet their congregation (audience) is clueless.
He was exposed before, when he lied about his church had flooded like the rest of the city, but it ended up being a lie he told, he did'nt want to help those people, he did'nt want to dirty up his pretty mega church
I donated money to Osteen and I've bought some of his CD's, this past year I found out that he paid 5 million dollars for his car and I thought to myself how all of that money could have been spent to help people who needed it more. I did enjoy hearing him every Sunday and I liked the message he sent but since I researched him and found out more about him I'm done, I'll never send him anymore money.
Well you're close... He told millions of suckers last Sunday at "church" and through the broadcast! There was a news report about the plumber being pissed cause he hasn't heard from that charlatan nor has he offered to pay him a finders fee. They showed charlatan and his wife on camera with their hands raised saying it's a miracle. 😂
@@song2001september money is the root of all evil how is it God's money? I'm pretty sure the symbols and people on those bills are no men of God,God bless you!
@@Fezzzy10k that's not what the bible says. It says the love of money is the root of all evil. Huge difference. That money would have been tithes and offerings. And if you want to get real technical everything we have we are only stewards of.
@@Fezzzy10k no need to apologize. I do agree with you that some of the men on the money or at least the symbology isn't exactly... well I needn't say more... you know exactly what I mean.
The man who has two shirts must give one to the man who has none and the man who has food must share it with the man who has none. THESE con men never follow one word of what the Bible teaches.
Who knows how much more money are in the walls. After all, Joel is nothing but a con man (🤢). Also, it is good to know there are some honest people in the world like the plumber.
The plumber gave it to the maintenance manager/supervisor, and the church turned the money into the police. Thus, the plumber, manager, and church are all honest people.
Not defending Olsteen, but how is this evidence of a crooked preacher? Why would anyone involved with the church, especially people responsible for the finances of the church, 'steal' the money and then hide it in a wall but never go get it again? Any checks in those envelopes are now invalid. Doesn't make sense.
@@dougsholly9323 Insurance fraud. Sounds like you need to read articles that came out today. The $ that was stolen was insured allegedly. Now the exact same amount comes up in a wall in the church? 🤔 The plumber got $20,000 for coming forward. He was lucky he got this money because…. I recommend you do your research to know the rest.
@@jennifersaunders1979 wait, insurance fraud? So they faked a 600k loss, got reimbursed from insurance, annnd never got the original 600k. So now, they are out the 20k PLUS whatever was in checks as they are useless now. What a perfect crime... Wanna try another theory?
@@dougsholly9323 It’s not my theory. It’s what I read. It makes perfect sense. Joel who runs this church is a terrible person. Remember when he wouldn’t open his doors to the hurricane victims of his community until he was forced to do it? This man will not go to heaven when he dies. He is going completely against the Bible. Obviously this was an inside job. All that money he claimed stolen years ago was covered by insurance. It’s in the news. Do some research, some reading and you might learn something. 🤦🏼♀️
Wait, though, what good are checks going to do him if they're stashed behind a wall? The cash I get b/c he could take it out when he wanted, but checks? Something smells fishy here. There are better ways to embezel or use money for things it wasn't intended for other than hiding it behind a wall.
@@figarofigaro3429 how about you answer the question and stop being so lazy yourself? You're the one who brought it up. Wikipedia can't be trusted. Anyone can edit their site. (edit) I found out that Sinclair does not own 'all' local news stations like you claim.
Great song. Thank you. I am in Ontario as well but it's bright and sunny here in West Lorne and all the snow has melted. Have a wonderful day. Stay warm and keep praying and watching!
Joel did not allow flood victims to have sanctuary after the hurricane flooding, because grifter Osteen told everyone the church was flooded, too. There were pictures of a small amount of water by the basement door.
I remember that. I thought it was so strange they didn't open their doors. Didnt they change their minds later after all the complaints and comments in the news?
Yeah I feel like you can’t apply it to all churches. Some that I’ve went to release their tax returns every year and a breakdown on what they spent money on.
The church I attend writes the amount they receive weekly, monthly and annually on the bulletin next to the amount needed so we can see the excess and/or deficit. They also hold open elder meetings and go over all that stuff and answer questions. They hold themselves very accountable.
Not the fix. Stop following the lust of the world, the lust of the eyes for they are not of the Father. Your comment identifies you as an antichrist. A liberal bashing Christianity by one fabrication.
Gotta think about the unintended consequences. For all the mega churches and televangelists, there are at least 100 small churches that are barely keeping the lights on.
Those Private Jet Stewardesses don't come Cheap!😀 Creflo Dollar, Jimmy Swaggart Jim Bakker, Reverend Ike Joel Osteen Billy Chinn When will People wake Up?
@@robertpeterson8530 Going on TV and Soliciting money from people, who need it moreso than himself - it is not a "Blessing". Any more than those callers from India telling me they're from Microsoft, are being "blessed" when an old person writes them a Check!
Please pray and consider the seventh day sabbath of the fourth commandment in Exodus 20:8-11 KJV. It’s reminding us of Genesis 2:2&3. God never changes. Jesus is our example and He kept the seventh day sabbath of creation week. God never changed Sabbath to sun day. Roman emperor Constantine did in 321 A.D. after generations of Christian persecution. They will soon present sun day rest by Force of law as the “ solution “ for all the current news events. Come out of her My people. They claim their authority to change sabbath to sun day as their “ mark”. While the seal of God is in the fourth commandment. His name title and territory. God uses our honoring the sabbath to reform our character into His image! Jesus is coming soon and this message will go around the world with the Latter Rain Power.
Leviticus 21:20, anyone who is hunchback or a dwarf, or who has an eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles may not enter the assembly of the Lord. After all, they just can't let anyone in. Praise the Lord!
Why would a church have $600,000 cash in envelopes ? That’s my question. It’s not like the robbers took the time to parcel the money out and stuff the envelopes themselves.
Not all Christians are evil. There is good and bad, everywhere. God knows everyones hearts and motives. You can't hide from Him. Just be the example and be Christlike, then y'all will be fine.
@@carmineredd1198 in numbers read verse two before you shoot you're mouth off. It's states this is revenge against what they had done to them and fair enough too. Good for them to slay and take captives. Then it's good for it to happen to them as well. So shut up. Quoting verses and not knowing context.
Why would you think so poorly of Joel for that? Do you not know that even Jesus took money from poor widows and women who had health problems just so they could build a church? *but she out of her poverty put in all the livelihood that she had."* . . . . *Then, as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with beautiful stones and donations,* Luke 21:4. Kind of Ironic isn't it.
Joel makes most of his money from books that he writes. The Church donations are given to help the poor. He gives to people all over the world. Look it up. The money was probably taken from people that attend the Church, staff workers. You can't watch everything people do. But he does write good motivational books that help people build a better life. Two sides to every story.
All preachers are charlatans. They tell people what they want to hear in exchange for money. It's one of the easiest and most profitable scams ever invented, and they've even managed to convince the government not to charge tax on their ill-gotten gains.
@@teresakenton2219 So his books are so good that he makes millions just like Hunter Bidens pictures are bringing in millions. He better invest in some ice making machines he can take with him when he dies because the good book tells of the fires of Hell. I know that these mega church pastors all are not real believers and are like wolves in sheep clothing. Seen it with Oral Roberts,Rex Humbard,Jim Baker, and the list is so long that I don't have the time to write them all.Just google pedophile preachers. I believe in Jesus but seen the sexual abuse from an early age.I'm 71 yo and haven't put a foot into any church in 50 years. I wouldn't trust any of them with my children or my money.I'd like to see those accounting books on how they can afford the massive buildings and lavish lifestyles giving all their money to the poor? I think he is charging $100's for each book and all donations automaticly charged for a book and whats left is given to the poor.I'm guessing that the poor won't get any help from any of them. I'm leaving my money to my kids and not some lying thief with the $500 haircut and $5000 suit.
Revelation 20:14-15 (KJV) And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
This has nothing to do with God or faith. This should give that church and it’s administration a bad name and end there. Joel Olstein answers to the same God as you and I do.
That is so true how many times someone comes to church for help they only give prayers instead of the church helping you. they will raise money from the members and the Paster will not pitch a penny
I understand what you're saying, sometimes it's hard to help people, some are very nasty and destroy property that's not theirs and are extremely ungrateful.
@@lcoleman6046 Which is why we turn the other cheek, take a look at the balance sheet in the Lakewood savings account, and let the less fortunate in. By “we” I mean anyone like mattress Mac or others that let people in. It’s all there in the good book.
Don't you all think that if he had known that money was there, he would have gotten it out before the plumber went there? I don't think Mr Osteen knew about that. Look honey I have no dog in this fight so I'm not defending or criticizing him. I just think for myself. I don't care one way or another but it just seems strange that people are blaming the pastor when I doubt he knew anything about this. When did pastors start sticking money in walls of their congregation?
@@cleopatrajones2024 Haters gonna hate. Joel hasn't taken a salary since 2005. For 17 years he ran the TV video production for the church, which didn't exactly make him rich. Yes he's wealthy now, but that was never his focus in life.
Joel is a very boastful arrogant man. He talks about expensive clothes, his ties suits etc. He has alway put money first. People must realise THE CHURCH IS A BUSINESS to take as much as they can get.
@@shenetheawardlow1033 your sister is right. Jakes and Osteen are apart of the many false prophets who have went out into the world to fool if possible even Gods elect. Jesus warned us over 2000 years ago about ppl like them. Ppl need to read their bible.
" God loves you and he needs money! He's all powerful, all perfect, all knowing, and all wise but somehow just can not handle money! " ~ George Carlin.
The checks likely have dates on them. It should not take long to find out if there is a connection. And when you flossing like Joel, you will entice thieves.
@@annacarter4879 He’s probably thinking of an explanation now, so he can continue getting money. We’ll soon learn how good of a liar he thinks he is because all liars sound stupid to me. I be like do you hear yourself.
That has to be it. He didn't want them finding the money. You know people would have been camping out talking all in the restrooms looking all into things, seeing a crack here and there and peeking inside.
Joel's name was recently added to the building corner. Bet that cost. I've never seen a true man of God put his own name on the church in big bold lit up letters. Mattress Mac has helped the community more than the church formerly known as The Summit.
If this story is true...all one need ask is 1. Who would have the ability to close the church so the money could be hidden behind a wall? 2. Who would have collected the insurance? 3. Who scams people USING God for self-interest? 4. Who is so rich 1/2 million $ wouldn't need to be used, but hidden? Only a fool wouldn't know who did it.
First time I saw Joel I knew he was on the take, do or say anything for the root of evil, when you see the large building holding countless people then you know it’s all about the money! More people in attendance results in more money in the offering plate. No taxes, no accountability and having absolute say so over where the money goes, he wouldn’t buy a poor person on the street a hamburger!
He's so rich...did u know Jesus didn't even have shoes or most nights didn't have a bed to sleep in! Joel is a money preacher... Who cares if he got his money back.. He sure isn't helping anyone but him self. God sees you money man...
I'm tearing out my bathroom wall right now ! Wish me luck !
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good luck 👍
Did Joel Osteen visit? 😂
Good luck
@@robinlavois4483 Update ! I found Rat poop and insulation so far... still ripping out more.. It's gotta be here somewhere !
In the year 2008, I sent a letter to their pastors asking for prayers for me and my family.
in return, they sent me a letter asking for CASH DONATIONS to their church!!
Those practices are NOT Bible based.
I totally agree
You were gullible. Devilish Joel Osteen and his staff wouldn’t pray for you.
The first mistake you made was to think there were any pastors in that building. I am sorry you were deceived. I hope you and your family are well now.
Well first off, a church that size, did you really think they were going to pray for you individually in letter format unless you actually went to the church yourself and met them? Which if so, they do pray for their congregants after services. A ministry of that size not only releases so many letters now electronically, but also receives so many letters and emails, mainly prayer requests with money in them in most cases. It sounds harsh, but they can't individually pray for you the way you wanted them to.
I emailed them like 7 years ago asking if they could pray for me because I was sick. However, they never replied, not even an automated email saying that they got my email. 😂😂😂😂😂
What hidden in the dark shall come to the light.
Amen
Amen Amen and Amen!
Exactly God never ever lies
J.T. HOUSTON........Preach Brother! 👌🙏🙏
What's hidden in the wall... will come to light
That is one honest worker. Respect to him for reporting what he found instead of swiping it. The love of money is the root of all evil.
$600k is what was left over..
Nobody said he didn't take an envelope or 2, that money was a retirement for somebody there, imagine them hearing the news somebody found their stash 😂
I mean...you guys might not be wrong. Really hoping he did the right thing.
Ask Joel, he certainly knows...That demonic spirit.
@@TrentonTrent if the blind lead the blind...both will fall into a pit.
Joel is the leader in that parable. Poor followers.
It doesn’t look like a church, it looks like a business complex - which I guess it really is to be honest.
Ya and it's about time they start paying taxes
The sanctuary is nice This use to be where NBA TEAM HOUSTON ROCKETS played and church bought years ago. I have been to this church
Joel is a charlatan and works for mammon, the god of money, NOT GOD ALMIGHTY AND CREATOR OF EVERYTHING!!
If you charge the church taxes, can they contribute to campaigns?
@texas legend Well the question is, to which God? Also, if the God you talk to is Jehovah, scripture says to not forsake the assembling of yourselves together.
This shows me how damn honest a real tradesmen is ! I am a mechanic and I have returned cash, extra tools, keys, credit cards etc all found while I was working on peoples cars. Good on ya plumber 👍
Good deeds aren't good deeds when you tell everyone you did them.
Well done sir
I went back to store to pay for a .79 bag of dirt
He is honest but no need to report it to media at all. If this was my house, I would be upset.
What part of US ARE YOU AT? I NEED A GOOD HONEST MECHANIC! MINE JUST SOLD HIS GARAGE AND A NICE HOME DUE TO IMMENENT DOMAINE?
Lakewood Church should donate that money to help the homeless
Or give it back to the people who were scammed in the first place.
@@MissMeggypoo Lol well I didn’t want to point that out, but yeah that too
and straight to the homeless not some corperate that says they help the homeless!
Lol. That will never happen.
Give to the homeless? That's now how you keep stacking that holy bread. That makes no sense. Lol 😂
If only Osteen and his church were as honest as the plumber.
why is Joel Osteen dishonest?
@@gusbalcazar4927 bro Osteen is not a good guy. He charges money for the word of God and drives expsensive cars and lives a rich livestyle. In the Bible God said be careful for those who profit off of the word/ the Bible etc. He is one of the best speakers I’ve ever seen unfortunately and the persona he puts on it amazingly fake face
Remember when this "church" closed it's doors on the public when hoston flooded? Mattress mac opened his and let hundreds of ppl sleep on his brand new mattresses and furniture he was selling at the time. He took a major loss, while Joel Osteen did a p.r. circuit. One's a man of God, the other one is Joel osteen.
That last sentence was pure gold. Loved it.
Innocent until proven guilty but, that guy and his Wife smile way too much for my liking. I never listened or followed anything they put out.
You nailed that last sentence.
Unbelievable!!!!! And, what’s even more bizarre and crazy,…is that people will still follow him and go to his church! 💔
lets go together
They're called DUMBFOUND.
Yes they do, he has so many brainwashed! And its just so sad!
Yah because they love being told that their sins are not sins.
If they were to follow 2nd Timothy 2v 15, they wouldn't.
The fact that a church has 600,000 laying around is absolutely disgusting.
Brandy *lying around
600k isn't even that much money
CHURCH IS A BUSINESS LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. ALL ABOUT MONEY.
Churches are great fronts for trafficking
@@tzivalic1 Are you actually defending Joel Osteen's Megachurch, or just being cynical?
$600 k, huh? That’s almost enough for Joel and Victoria to remodel one of their guest bathrooms.
These wicked, evil, greedy people are not followers of Christ.
@Boz Scaggs they aren't following Jesus Christ. They are following their false church leaders.
All I can say is they ain't in the business of saving souls...
You can't serve 2 masters...
You can't serve God and money.
@Boz Scaggs or maybe a God that is so powerful that if you just obey you’ll be alright. Why would you want a sugar coated life experience, you need to go through it so God can read your heart. That’s what it’s about, how can God read your heart without any real challenges?
your christ never existed it is a fictional character. And yes those criminals are perfect example of what religious are.
@@thornil2231 if he never existed he by far tops any other "fictional character" ever conceived. Christ will dominate any of your favorite comic book or whatever person you look up to real or not. Maybe you just don't want a relationship with big brother Christ but through my life experience a simple prayer to God was answered with the help of his son the very same day I put my complete faith and intention behind it. So maybe your mind is too loud and congested with doubt for your prayers to be heard but you seem hardheaded and prideful. Not here to entertain someone who isn't willing to get themselves out of their own way.
“It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but you have made it a den of thieves.”
One thing my Pastor taught me is "God doesn't send out beggars". These prosperity rich cats are going to pay for what they've done.
Amen and Amen!
@@HAL-dm1eh Kenneth Copeland is another one
And Jesus tossed those money hungry thief’s out of the Temple! God wants His children to prosper but not in the worldly way people like J.O. & other such false teachers!
you can say that again......
Olsteen locked people out of his church during that bad flood. Not very Christ like sir.
You know what I was thinking about that and how ppl still give the church money in tithes and offering and the church can't even help the community when they need help.
@@Yeshualivess That $600k would have been plenty to refurbish the church after using it as a shelter in the flood. Shame on them for shutting people out when in need.
They didn't open the doors because the proper staffing was not in place. One would only have to look at the Georgia Dome during Katrina with the rapes and suicide to know being understaffed is a disaster waiting to happen.
Maybe people from the bad flood would of found the money back then
@@boxesbinslidsllc You must be one of the idiots that goes to the church 🤣🤣
If you're claiming to be a pastor, and your home costs more than your congregation's, something ain't right. Prove me wrong...I'll wait.
Your making the accusation. You need to provide the evidence its wrong.
don't be self-righteous. It's wrong.
@@lucuslopez6866 Its wrong. No man of God would surround himself with material possessions like that. Just because its not against the law does not mean it is ethical or adhere to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Amish farmers are way closer to God than the Osteens.
That’s the truth.. I’m with you on that
@@OldSaltyBear Amish farmers are not closer to God.
When a “man of the book” wears $2000 suits, lives in mansions with several “vacation properties”, and has multiple luxury cars/ man toys, people should question his motives…..Not send him their hard earned money like mindless goats!
His a Freemason a luciferian worshiper
You tell it like it is!
Eventually his followers will drink the kool aid and end up like Jim Jones church members. It's a shame that people are so brainwashed they'll go to his church give him money make him super rich but won't help the homeless or feed the poor. Jesus said that during His return He will tell people like this. I NEVER KNEW YOU. workers of lawlessness.
@@regwill1229 they already drinking the evil spirit falling for Lucifer’s lies
Goat$ on the left...$heep on the right. Win win $ituation for the 'man of the book.' ;)
Joel even said in one of his sermons , he didn't want to be a preacher but his father convinced him to continue the business
He’s a motivational speaker, at best. And a crappy author. I see his books at thrift stores everywhere.
Facts
You guys are missing the point. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, Jesus, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus died on that cross for all our sin and in all our sin and took the wrath of God for us. That precious blood that spilt from Jesus is the blood that washes all sin away. For He is the Lamb that was slain and He is our Risen Everlasting Father. Look to Jesus and accept His precious blood for everlasting life with Him in paradise. There is no greater love than the love of Jesus our Mighty God and Savior the Christ of God and Son of God our God is One ❤️
@@likenl4508 I actually think you are the one missing the point. I know what the Bible says and I know of what you just said. But what you are missing is that the Osteens are false prophets who are taking advantage of people by exploiting them USING Jesus and/or God as their means of exploitation. Something doesn't smell right about this story at all.
@@edlane1883 yes but we can condemn him all we want if He truly knows Jesus He can be forgiven easier than breathing. We all make mistakes and hide things from others my point is Jesus does not care what you've done He's always right there ready to forgive you if you have a repenting heart. He's not an angry God out to get us His love is unending. We must not exploit His Gospel or use His Word for money God forbid... but if you do surely you can still be forgiven instantly.
Brian Houston, Joel Osteen, God is exposing them for the false teachers they are!
If Joe knew the money was there, He wouldn't have called the plumber before he could remove it.
AMEN!!
What does finding stolen money have to do with false teaching
@@justcallmeebonee exactly
Amen!
He did the right thing not taking it he is more honest than Joel Osteen could ever be!!! It was put there for a reason if it was all just cash!!! I think it was reported stolen for a reason!!! Should give that plumber 10% of what was found !!! God bless that hard working plumbing for being honest God saw it I guarantee that !!!
Osteen"s got so much dough, he forgets where it's all hidden .
Maybe they can start paying taxes now.
Be wise otherwise the feds control what you can speak about. And if you violate they can force you to pay back everything ever. Hence why they havent been allowing exemptions for certain things. Get me? Ask me how i know.
Who is they? The mega churches? Sure. I can agree that a church that operates like a business should be held for taxation.
A smaller church in Sisterscrew Arkansas with a 20 person congregation that utilizes most of what comes in from tithing into local charity work? No because they would not be able to do that charity work.
Mr. Beat always the Truth Teller!
No. Churches are non-profit 501c3 for a reason. They're not corporations. Even if they have lots of money, they still shouldn't be taxed.
Power to tax is the power to destroy. And no government should have that power over religious believers
Can we praise the honest plumber here who found the money and didn’t pocket it and keep quiet?
The plumber is a good and honest man. Great to know there are still good people in this world.
me: Rev.Olsteen may I use your rest room please after service J0: please be my guest why do you have sledge hammer me: I'm sorry I thought I grabbed my walking cane 😅
Someone thought they found a tax free shelter.
There are more honest people..than the opposite but they are the unknown ones
Stupid but honest 🤣🤣🤣
I am sorry, but I find that money in the wall, I am outta there, Goodbye!
I will be relaxing on a beach somewhere within days.
Joel Osteen is one of those people who is suspiciously "too good to be true." Gives me creepy vibes.
I’m not Christian but I tried to watch him to get an understanding but he seems so fake
When will people realize this is a business , not a church. This is a business run by slick , smart business men, and count on people believing what they say.
How is it not a church? Most churches pass a collection plate. Is it just too big to be a church? lol
tRump lovers love these guys. Money money money and I guess God? They like to worship both. Hypocrites
@@JoeZamecki It means that it's a building. Is made out of greed. Jesus didn't need gold silverld. Private jets And More money than they would ever be able to spend.. And donating to some charity doesn't mean. still doesn't take off the fact that worldwide there are people literally dying of hunger.. The problem is that some people think they are too God. Money brings power.
But you can't buy God and God is going to let people know who he is.. We are most definitely living in different times. God has gotten fed up people. Be ready.👑🙏🏽
@@brownlove6138 Gods are fake myths...brainwashing is to blame.
@@NikeRunner210 Guessing your "@name" is because of your personality...but to bring politics in to this is something only a Leftist/Democrat like yourself would do. You want to talk hypocrite? How about Democrats keeping the southern border open while shutting all the other borders down, then blaming on Trump. The kids in cages were Obama, that the Left blames Trump for. Even better, all the rich, white, elitist Democrats trying to tell minorities how oppressed they are, and about the systemic racism that rears it's ugly head in Democrat run cities, that have minority City Councils, Mayors, Chief of Police, etc...better yet, how about the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democrats trying to talk Russian collusion, when in reality it's been proven that it was the Clintons and Democrats that are guilty of the Russian collusion.
What's unbelievable is that Crime Stoppers told the plumber that the $25K reward has expired. Lakewood Church needs to step up and reward this man.
What bs. He exposed felony money fraud.
@@Arbor_Solutions yours is the only comment here that makes any sense.
"jesus saves" is the only tip you ever get from a preacher
They're the ones who hid the money; he will not be getting anything from Lakewood but an invitation to become a member so that his hard earned money can be collected.
Just insane , it sucks honest hard working people get the short end while on this earth but Thank God for a new day coming.
Joel osteen has a reputation of not taking accountability for his actions.
Have you seen his home? Must be nice.
Care to elaborate?
That’s the way of narcissism
None of those televised pastors are real. They are all modern day Jim Jones.
That's Christianity in general. Wait for a sky daddy to make you a better person and put your sin and responsibility on...it's kinda been a theme in that religion for over 2k years.
"For is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, nor is anything SECRET that will not become known and come to light." LUKE 8:17 🔥🔥🔥👀
“For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all.”
Luke 8:17
Yep! Amen
That's my thoughts exactly and at 7 years as well.
Lakewood white collar scammers. This church's financial transactions ought to be investigated.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Isaiah 45 7
Amen
*When God tells you to be a prophet, but you thought he said make a PROFIT*
Funny but true!!!🤣🤣🤣
Make a profit out of a non prophet
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Joel Osteen is A MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER who’s been masquerading as A PREACHER for Years…..
💯 and people are still flocking his church and celebrities are supporting him.
Amen
Amen
People with itching ears will always flock to motivational speakers
His a Freemason a luciferian worshipper
Checks expire after 90 days. Some people tithed but the money never came out of their accounts, that’s a blessing.
And thats why Joel didn't want anybody in his church during the hurricane disaster.
Facts!
You know , you're probably right .👍🏿
Seriously, he didn’t want anyone in the church during a hurricane ???
That’s terrible, a church is suppose to provide refuge if it in a safe area !!!
He will answer to God some day !
That was my first thought,too!
@@ritaflatt7605 .. He was stashing the money !
“For the love of money is the root of many evils.”
IT SAYS ALL EVILS NOT MANY. YOU MUST HAVE A NEW BIBLE?
Of all evil....
@@lancerivora9325 That new Texas version
@@lancerivora9325 you must be new to the Bible your damn self. What are our talking about?
@@darkpisces8125 How? I have an old Kj1611 Bible. You are definitely dumb. Did you even read to Understand instead of asking a dumb question. Only women like you try to shame me for knowing what I'm talking about. You don't even know. Stupidity.
Joel is a new age motivation speaker. Beware of those masked as angels of light. Do not be deceived.
Kristen, correct that is why he promotes Oprah Winfrey new age spirituality
"Be not deceived. God is not mocked."
Come out of the Babylon churches!
I agree Kristin. He's sure not a pastor or man of God.
@@benmarykuca4144 oprah is a devil.
a plumber is more honest than someone in the church.
this is not a church...its Joel O'Steens money pit~!
Come out of the Babylon churches!
Yes His church was not the only organization using the prosperity gospel for decades. Most on TV were during this era.
BINGO 💥
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@@j.a.fligor97 So they found money and checks... ??? Why put them behind a wall? Why not spend the money?
I thought only cartels and criminals hide money in the walls.
anyone who doesnt trust banks or government. not speaking up for olsteen(hes a charlatan) but its your money its not anyone elses business what you do with it where its at how you got it
This organization is the same ,scamming people every Sunday in the name of God
Pretty much 🤣🤣🤣
@John Doe ironic that someone who is questioning the intelligence of others doesnt know the difference in youre and your
@John Doe what you got out of my comment was that it was based out of jealousy?
Honest man should be rewarded 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻👍
Sonia B
The man who found the money has ALREADY been rewarded with something worth more than money.
Honesty and integrity. From this point on, "more will be given, and he will have an ABUNDANCE."
@@freenchrist2935 Joel Osteen is going to have an abundance of MORE cash.
Maybe remodel the bar on his yacht?
@@lahondafolk4334 yep, that’s what I was thinking. I’ve never seen a “church” without a cross. The church without the name of Jesus or a Saint on the sign outside yet Joel & Vickie’s names are on there. I’ve never been to the “Lakewood” church but the main arena area I have never even see a cross there either… 😒.
@@freenchrist2935 A reward was once offered.. I'd think he would receive it..
@@hybridfc9768 he's referring to the plumber i believe
I have listened to joel osteen’s sermons and just get an ick feeling in my gut. that’s enough for me to know something is off regardless of his large church or mansions or toys. I don’t see why others aren’t more i touch with this gut.
He's creeped me out for years. His eyes... 😳
@@Staceblueyez79 CANT look at this face too long but i dont mention until everyone judeg u on your looks too so why not point their stuff too.
God is exposing the wolves in His Church. Joel has time to confess his sins to Jesus.
Amen he sure is, guys like Warren, Furtick, Hinn etc the list is LONG. Those “speakers” are making so many heretical errors at every Sunday service yet their congregation (audience) is clueless.
Joel Osteen is the Wolf!
Lets-not-judge
We-all-sinners
The-poisongs
Tongues-is-the
Worst-enemy
This-world'facing?
He was exposed before, when he lied about his church had flooded like the rest of the city, but it ended up being a lie he told, he did'nt want to help those people, he did'nt want to dirty up his pretty mega church
@@bittersweet2253 😂😂😂👍🏽👍🏽
I donated money to Osteen and I've bought some of his CD's, this past year I found out that he paid 5 million dollars for his car and I thought to myself how all of that money could have been spent to help people who needed it more. I did enjoy hearing him every Sunday and I liked the message he sent but since I researched him and found out more about him I'm done, I'll never send him anymore money.
What Bible Osteen reads he must have been making up his own preaching and I never did donate any money to a false preacher
I stop watching his program a long time ago too I had a feeling something wasn't right about him
Yes you will
Joel Osteen is a scam artist
Should have researched him before sending money or buying his merchandise.
It would be interesting to find out the dates on those checks.
They’re probably not cashable anymore.
@@aaronlane8276 lol. Just to see if they were related to the theft back in 2014.
My thoughts exactly. And, who were the checks made out too. No one is asking that question.😕
@@marshathomas3905 it might be safe to assume that the checks were made out to the church because they were most likely put into the offering plate.
If they dropped all those checks it would probably hit most of the writers by surprise and overdraft them.
Yup. If it's a "for-profit church," it's actually a bank.
Exactly. If you are preaching for profit, then you aren’t a preacher.
Joel will tell the police, "it's a miracle"!
ahahahaahahaahhahaa
Well you're close... He told millions of suckers last Sunday at "church" and through the broadcast! There was a news report about the plumber being pissed cause he hasn't heard from that charlatan nor has he offered to pay him a finders fee. They showed charlatan and his wife on camera with their hands raised saying it's a miracle. 😂
@@pageroo9644 ahhhhhhhh... trying to do a lil damage control..lol
😂😂
Why does a church need 600k or more then that?!?! What does a pastor need to have a net worth if they are doing The Most High’s work?!?!
His house,his cars, his traveling expenses. You know ,basic things
My Grand Mother Melve Morris would say many of these Jack Leg preachers are just that. Lol
He doesn't care about god. Probably doesn't even believe in god.
The bigger question is why would God need money, ever?
Most are frauds like Osteen
Joel Osteen has always struck me as being sooo shady.
That….smile!? 🧐🤨😖 too suspicious.
It's that constant goofy grin on his face! (A little creepy)
@@bahba9247 Yeah you know someones fake if they're always grinning like that
Kinda looks like a weasel...
Kinda? lol he is a weasel@@charleencollins1130
'Go with God's love and warmth' is the only reward the plumber getting.
Giving this man the 25K reward would be an insult, he should be blessed with at least a 100K because he could have kept it all.
I wouldn't accept any of it, that's God's money
@@song2001september money is the root of all evil how is it God's money? I'm pretty sure the symbols and people on those bills are no men of God,God bless you!
@@Fezzzy10k that's not what the bible says. It says the love of money is the root of all evil. Huge difference. That money would have been tithes and offerings. And if you want to get real technical everything we have we are only stewards of.
@@song2001september your right I apologize thank you
@@Fezzzy10k no need to apologize. I do agree with you that some of the men on the money or at least the symbology isn't exactly... well I needn't say more... you know exactly what I mean.
The man who has two shirts must give one to the man who has none and the man who has food must share it with the man who has none. THESE con men never follow one word of what the Bible teaches.
What Bible verse is that?
How many shirts do you have?
@@cindiloowhoo1166 who saud i was a Christian? Now how many do you have.
Amen!!!
I dont like the word "must" sounds more like a government tax hand out of your hard earned money. Better spent on your family.
Who knows how much more money are in the walls. After all, Joel is nothing but a con man (🤢). Also, it is good to know there are some honest people in the world like the plumber.
The plumber gave it to the maintenance manager/supervisor, and the church turned the money into the police. Thus, the plumber, manager, and church are all honest people.
This is sad
all pastors use the peoples money for their own needs!
Mom2huskies - How do you know that Pastor Joel is a con man... ? Links / Proof / first hand story experiences would be useful.
"May sound hard to believe?"
"Unbelievable?"
Um, what is so unbelievable about a crooked preacher and corrupted church?
Not defending Olsteen, but how is this evidence of a crooked preacher? Why would anyone involved with the church, especially people responsible for the finances of the church, 'steal' the money and then hide it in a wall but never go get it again? Any checks in those envelopes are now invalid. Doesn't make sense.
Well, when you put it that way. Your absolutely correct n it's an awful act.
@@dougsholly9323 Insurance fraud. Sounds like you need to read articles that came out today. The $ that was stolen was insured allegedly. Now the exact same amount comes up in a wall in the church? 🤔 The plumber got $20,000 for coming forward. He was lucky he got this money because…. I recommend you do your research to know the rest.
@@jennifersaunders1979 wait, insurance fraud? So they faked a 600k loss, got reimbursed from insurance, annnd never got the original 600k. So now, they are out the 20k PLUS whatever was in checks as they are useless now. What a perfect crime...
Wanna try another theory?
@@dougsholly9323 It’s not my theory. It’s what I read. It makes perfect sense. Joel who runs this church is a terrible person. Remember when he wouldn’t open his doors to the hurricane victims of his community until he was forced to do it? This man will not go to heaven when he dies. He is going completely against the Bible. Obviously this was an inside job. All that money he claimed stolen years ago was covered by insurance. It’s in the news. Do some research, some reading and you might learn something. 🤦🏼♀️
To him who has ears to hear "Come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.”
The church should elect the plumber as the pastor. Hes honest and has proven it. 600,000 times.
Wait, though, what good are checks going to do him if they're stashed behind a wall? The cash I get b/c he could take it out when he wanted, but checks? Something smells fishy here. There are better ways to embezel or use money for things it wasn't intended for other than hiding it behind a wall.
LMBO!!!!!
Just being honest is not a qualification to become a pastor. It's just a basic commandment.
@Blue Lagoon
Please tell me you're smarter than this. Someone stole the money but obviously could not come back to collect it.
@@sblijheid yes it does.
Lol, local news afraid to point out this is obviously insurance fraud.
Obviously insurance fraud during the depression , $600k magically goes missing and magically reapears
Sinclair owns all local news channels.
@@figarofigaro3429 where do you get that Sinclair owns all 'local news'?
@@SacredFire777 Go look up their Wikipedia page and stop being lazy.
@@figarofigaro3429 how about you answer the question and stop being so lazy yourself? You're the one who brought it up. Wikipedia can't be trusted. Anyone can edit their site.
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I found out that Sinclair does not own 'all' local news stations like you claim.
Great song. Thank you. I am in Ontario as well but it's bright and sunny here in West Lorne and all the snow has melted. Have a wonderful day. Stay warm and keep praying and watching!
Joel did not allow flood victims to have sanctuary after the hurricane flooding, because grifter Osteen told everyone the church was flooded, too. There were pictures of a small amount of water by the basement door.
I remember that. I thought it was so strange they didn't open their doors. Didnt they change their minds later after all the complaints and comments in the news?
Yeah, and Olsteen probably paid someone to dump that water by that door.
Fiji water poured from his platinum and diamond encrusted pimp goblet, like the one rappers used to have in the 2000s.
@@deborahdawkins1589 nope too afraid those people would found the money.
@@marshalastovall4270 😂😂😂😂😂
Those people are evil I can't believe people actually follow them
Joel is a charlatan and works for mammon, the god of money, NOT GOD ALMIGHTY AND CREATOR OF EVERYTHING!!
Ignorance. But you know how it us. Now Christians are going to blame satan for it.
Exactly
evil people follow evil leaders...
"religion was created when the first CONMAN met the first FOOL".. M.T ??
P.T. Barnum stated a century ago: "There's a sucker born every minute."
Wonder if an insurance claim was made at time of burglary??
Exactly
Now you know why that Joel dude could afford $300.00 neck ties lol 🙄😜😩🐷🤔 lord knows what happened!!!!😜🙄😏🤐🤔
@@bobdermott6446 $300 neck ties for the fashion show
You know it… this has got Joel name all over it
I bet it was an inside job and no one thought it would be discovered. they didn't realize the wall they were hiding it in was a utility space.
Prob hid it to evade paying taxes and said it was “stolen” doesn’t surprise me one bit. Dudes shady
This is one of many reasons why churches shouldn’t be tax exempt.
So punish most churches who dwarf in size to this church who take in no where near that amount. 😒
Yeah I feel like you can’t apply it to all churches.
Some that I’ve went to release their tax returns every year and a breakdown on what they spent money on.
The church I attend writes the amount they receive weekly, monthly and annually on the bulletin next to the amount needed so we can see the excess and/or deficit. They also hold open elder meetings and go over all that stuff and answer questions. They hold themselves very accountable.
Not the fix. Stop following the lust of the world, the lust of the eyes for they are not of the Father. Your comment identifies you as an antichrist. A liberal bashing Christianity by one fabrication.
Gotta think about the unintended consequences. For all the mega churches and televangelists, there are at least 100 small churches that are barely keeping the lights on.
MAYBE THIS EXPLAINS WHY THEY DIDN'T WANT THOSE PEOPLE'S IN THE CHURCH AFTER FLOODING 🤔🤔🤔😲😲. NOTHING HIDDEN THAT WANT BE EXPOSED 🤔🤔.
Yup
Don’t worry, I’m sure if Osteen gets the money back he’ll waste no time using it for charitable works like car and clothes shopping sprees.
Don't forget jet fuel for his private jet!😒🛫🛩🛬
Don't forget another airplane!!!!!
Those Private Jet Stewardesses don't come Cheap!😀
Creflo Dollar,
Jimmy Swaggart
Jim Bakker,
Reverend Ike
Joel Osteen
Billy Chinn
When will People wake Up?
@@Alvan81 God blesses those who do charitable works and rewards them, if they put Him first.
@@robertpeterson8530 Going on TV and Soliciting money from people, who need it moreso than himself - it is not a "Blessing". Any more than those callers from India telling me they're from Microsoft, are being "blessed" when an old person writes them a Check!
Yet, NOTHING will happen to Joel. He is a crook, a con-man, he needs to be locked up. Any of us would be by now.
Joel Osteen didn't feel like going to home depot to get insulation, so he figured a few of his envelopes would do the job...
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Right doe!!!
It’s cheaper 😂😂😂😂
Best Comment! Lol
LOL!!!
This is what makes true Christianity look negative. The writing on the wall. Mahalos to an honest plumber. ❤👪🇺🇲🤙🏼🤙🏼🙌
The plumber may have been the thief. Now he's asking for reward money.
Religion is not good, but Christianity will save who needs it.
@@u-no-me7218 Publicity + pity= $$$
Please pray and consider the seventh day sabbath of the fourth commandment in Exodus 20:8-11 KJV. It’s reminding us of Genesis 2:2&3. God never changes. Jesus is our example and He kept the seventh day sabbath of creation week. God never changed Sabbath to sun day. Roman emperor Constantine did in 321 A.D. after generations of Christian persecution. They will soon present sun day rest by Force of law as the “ solution “ for all the current news events. Come out of her My people. They claim their authority to change sabbath to sun day as their “ mark”. While the seal of God is in the fourth commandment. His name title and territory. God uses our honoring the sabbath to reform our character into His image! Jesus is coming soon and this message will go around the world with the Latter Rain Power.
@Peter Bender no they're not.
Matthew 19:24 "I'll say it again-it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!"
The newer testament of Trump says it's OK now.
Luke 16: 19-31
Leviticus 21:20, anyone who is hunchback or a dwarf, or who has an eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles may not enter the assembly of the Lord. After all, they just can't let anyone in. Praise the Lord!
The naysayers go-to place - Leviticus. There is God's law and there is man-made law. Jesus the Christ obeyed only God's law.
@@timeforthinkers7418 So what are you saying? We should do away with Leviticus?
the money was never stolen if it was hidden in his wall
Why would a church have $600,000 cash in envelopes ? That’s my question.
It’s not like the robbers took the time to parcel the money out and stuff the envelopes themselves.
People send the little they have. Some are just checks or money orders I would guess.
Church offerings are collected in envelops have you never been in a church
@@callen7403 the plumber said about 500 envelopes, so that's about $1200 per envelope, nice tithing, probably still a little light for joel
Inside job, maybe the pastor is hiding something.🤔
@@callen7403 he said it's not like the robbers stuff the envelopes themselves. So what page you on?
Not all Christians are evil. There is good and bad, everywhere. God knows everyones hearts and motives. You can't hide from Him. Just be the example and be Christlike, then y'all will be fine.
@ Travis Zivalic- No one said all christians are evil. Its only when money🤑🤑🤑 gets in their way.
Dont-judge
If-you's'dont
Want-to-be-judge
Only-jesus-can
Judge-?
Amen. Everyone that is a Christian isn’t like that.
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They must of hide it in the walls during the great flood,this explaining why ole Joel didn't want the people to come into the church for shelter.
That part
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Omg i was thinking the same. Great minds think alike!!
Except that "great flood" was from Hurricane Harvey in 2017. The original theft they're referencing was in 2014. So the timeline doesn't check out.
@@e.turduckeny630 Doesn't have to,u missed the point.
I never felt this man to be a true man of God. Asking people to send money to them to pray for you is not what God wants his people to do.
which god ? the one in Numbers 31:18 ? or the one in Exodus 20:2+ ?
Totally agree with you.
Well hello Diana
@@carmineredd1198 in numbers read verse two before you shoot you're mouth off. It's states this is revenge against what they had done to them and fair enough too. Good for them to slay and take captives. Then it's good for it to happen to them as well. So shut up. Quoting verses and not knowing context.
Why would you think so poorly of Joel for that? Do you not know that even Jesus took money from poor widows and women who had health problems just so they could build a church? *but she out of her poverty put in all the livelihood that she had."* . . . . *Then, as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with beautiful stones and donations,* Luke 21:4. Kind of Ironic isn't it.
"More and more people are leaving the church and going back to God"
I hope this happens sooner than later. This guy is a charlatan.
Where did you hear or read that?
Joel makes most of his money from books that he writes. The Church donations are given to help the poor. He gives to people all over the world. Look it up. The money was probably taken from people that attend the Church, staff workers. You can't watch everything people do. But he does write good motivational books that help people build a better life. Two sides to every story.
@@bcatypical Lenny Bruce, of all people! I paraphrased.
All preachers are charlatans. They tell people what they want to hear in exchange for money. It's one of the easiest and most profitable scams ever invented, and they've even managed to convince the government not to charge tax on their ill-gotten gains.
@@teresakenton2219 So his books are so good that he makes millions just like Hunter Bidens pictures are bringing in millions. He better invest in some ice making machines he can take with him when he dies because the good book tells of the fires of Hell. I know that these mega church pastors all are not real believers and are like wolves in sheep clothing. Seen it with Oral Roberts,Rex Humbard,Jim Baker, and the list is so long that I don't have the time to write them all.Just google pedophile preachers. I believe in Jesus but seen the sexual abuse from an early age.I'm 71 yo and haven't put a foot into any church in 50 years. I wouldn't trust any of them with my children or my money.I'd like to see those accounting books on how they can afford the massive buildings and lavish lifestyles giving all their money to the poor? I think he is charging $100's for each book and all donations automaticly charged for a book and whats left is given to the poor.I'm guessing that the poor won't get any help from any of them. I'm leaving my money to my kids and not some lying thief with the $500 haircut and $5000 suit.
I'M SHOCKED NOT!!!!! THEY SAY THE DEVIL STANDS BEHIND A PULPIT AN SITS ON THE FRONT PEW
Joel is a charlatan and works for mammon, the god of money, NOT GOD ALMIGHTY AND CREATOR OF EVERYTHING!!
They also say he who farts in church sits in his own pew
Revelation 20:14-15 (KJV) And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Ase’ to that!!!
Your so right!
People like him give God/church/faith a bad name. Period
This has nothing to do with God or faith. This should give that church and it’s administration a bad name and end there. Joel Olstein answers to the same God as you and I do.
I'm sorry the plumber didn't just take the $600K. Can you steal money that is already stolen twice? Olsteen is the original thief.
Maybe if they look a little further into the walls or other structures of that building they’ll find the burglar too.
Truth!
Why would they put Joel in the walls?
Just go to the senior pastors office and you'll find him.
@@kennethfraire8152 if Victoria comes up missing we'll know where to look.
....yeah , pray THE PLUMMER SURVIVES, YALL
It was Joel’s rainy day stash🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
I can’t respect any preacher who is a millionaire while people have no insurance and starve
That is so true how many times someone comes to church for help they only give prayers instead of the church helping you. they will raise money from the members and the Paster will not pitch a penny
Why just “preachers?” Why not NBA, Celebrities, all billionaires, politicians, hedge fund managers, etc?
@@cindiloowhoo1166 because preachers literally are there to love and help their flock.
You think most people would say the same about government officials.
@@cindiloowhoo1166 a Christian preacher is not supposed to be rich.
That church has a lot of dark skeleton hidden in the walls of that church !
How did they know a few years ago that $600,000 was gone? How did they know the amount in the envelopes?
Good question. How did they know?
When he didnt open his doors to hurricane victims during the storm. Thats when i lost respect for that poor excuse of a man.
@@explorergt8640 I live in Houston not far from the church, it was not flooded
@@explorergt8640 I did repair work in the immediate aftermath. Greenway was fine. Neat “facts.”
I understand what you're saying, sometimes it's hard to help people, some are very nasty and destroy property that's not theirs and are extremely ungrateful.
@@lcoleman6046 Which is why we turn the other cheek, take a look at the balance sheet in the Lakewood savings account, and let the less fortunate in. By “we” I mean anyone like mattress Mac or others that let people in. It’s all there in the good book.
@@chaseteterTrue
Fools will continue to give that fraudster money. Just watch.
Joel is a charlatan and works for mammon, the god of money, NOT GOD ALMIGHTY AND CREATOR OF EVERYTHING!!
Yep @ough
They will also defend him 🤦🏾♀️
Don't you all think that if he had known that money was there, he would have gotten it out before the plumber went there? I don't think Mr Osteen knew about that. Look honey I have no dog in this fight so I'm not defending or criticizing him. I just think for myself. I don't care one way or another but it just seems strange that people are blaming the pastor when I doubt he knew anything about this. When did pastors start sticking money in walls of their congregation?
@@cleopatrajones2024 Haters gonna hate. Joel hasn't taken a salary since 2005. For 17 years he ran the TV video production for the church, which didn't exactly make him rich. Yes he's wealthy now, but that was never his focus in life.
And the church will not give him a reward.
Crime Stoppers gave the plumber a small reward, but the church, not a penny.
Joel is a very boastful arrogant man. He talks about expensive clothes, his ties suits etc. He has alway put money first. People must realise THE CHURCH IS A BUSINESS to take as much as they can get.
@S. Hopefully you're just referring to Osteen's church. The Word of Faith churches put an undue emphasis on money. Not all churches are like that.
Yes the church is a BUSINESS!
@@mitchmiller2382 the majority are…And sadly, it is a business
Churches should be taxed like any other business.
Plumber should’ve kept some of the cash
What's in the dark will come to the light ✨
Joel is a charlatan and works for mammon, the god of money, NOT GOD ALMIGHTY AND CREATOR OF EVERYTHING!!
Amen
Why is that building called a church, and he a pastor?! Knowing he’s a motivational speaker, and that’s a center!
This
Thanks for writing something meaningful
So he doesn’t have to pay taxes
Weird u say that. My sister told me the same thing but about TD Jakes. I never thought of it like that but the two of u are absolutely correct.😡
@@shenetheawardlow1033 your sister is right. Jakes and Osteen are apart of the many false prophets who have went out into the world to fool if possible even Gods elect. Jesus warned us over 2000 years ago about ppl like them. Ppl need to read their bible.
" God loves you and he needs money! He's all powerful, all perfect, all knowing, and all wise but somehow just can not handle money! " ~ George Carlin.
The God I believe in isn’t short of cash, mister! - Bono.
Beat me to it!
The checks likely have dates on them. It should not take long to find out if there is a connection. And when you flossing like Joel, you will entice thieves.
Joel is the thief
True the FBI is going to investigate it. it will all come out
@@annacarter4879 He’s probably thinking of an explanation now, so he can continue getting money. We’ll soon learn how good of a liar he thinks he is because all liars sound stupid to me. I be like do you hear yourself.
Remember when they kept the doors of the church closed during the community's time of need?
Guess we now know why.
That has to be it. He didn't want them finding the money. You know people would have been camping out talking all in the restrooms looking all into things, seeing a crack here and there and peeking inside.
Wooow, right. Smh
No, you do not.
Looks like who ever stole that money and checks was found and “disposed of” before ever making it back to the stash 😂
We need to have more faith in God than in man.
@@timeforthinkers7418 yep
Maybe Osteen?
@@Soltice-ty2nf yeah I was thinking the same , maybe just in case anything ever went south.
Reporting Robbery is a great way store all that money 😂
"And the Lord has brought "Us" the blessing of a new private jet! Thank you Lord!" - Joel Osteen
Be sure, your sins will find you out. You, too, Joel. 😠🗯
No Joel, you brought yourselves a new private jet by fleecing the flock.
Joel's name was recently added to the building corner. Bet that cost. I've never seen a true man of God put his own name on the church in big bold lit up letters. Mattress Mac has helped the community more than the church formerly known as The Summit.
YES!!! Ive been saying this for years! Mattress Mack actually helps in a crisis always!
@@joem2130 Yes. I've said this all through the comment section.
I’m curious to know the dates on the checks! All the same dates or multiple dates over what period of time?
Very good question
HPD ended up putting out a statement saying that based on the check dates, there was a connection with the loss of funds in 2014
@@ll07mike Woudn't some of those checks be voided after so much time has passed?
@@Pllm30 I can't speak from experience, but the bank can decide to cash the check if it is presented for payment.
@@ll07mike thank for the info
That's a drop in the bucket for Joel Osteen. His wife could spend that amount in one afternoon of shopping.
Unfortunately.
He robbed his own church ! Insurance fraud !
If this story is true...all one need ask is 1. Who would have the ability to close the church so the money could be hidden behind a wall? 2. Who would have collected the insurance? 3. Who scams people USING God for self-interest? 4. Who is so rich 1/2 million $ wouldn't need to be used, but hidden? Only a fool wouldn't know who did it.
It's a church what the hell r u thinking can't be more corrupt than a church ,have you all forgotten Tammy and the eye lashes?!!!!!😜😏😩🤔
I am with you Carrie, only a fool wouldn't know!!!😩😜😏🙄🤔
Maybe Osteen’s wife was contemplating an exit from their “sacred marriage” at that point in time.
You have a point, Inside job.
Ditto Carrie. Agreed.
First time I saw Joel I knew he was on the take, do or say anything for the root of evil, when you see the large building holding countless people then you know it’s all about the money! More people in attendance results in more money in the offering plate. No taxes, no accountability and having absolute say so over where the money goes, he wouldn’t buy a poor person on the street a hamburger!
you can blame joel. he ,just like trump, is just doing what conmen do. you have to laugh at the suckers in the pews though.
@@vhehn freethinker -- anything but!
You are right. He will buy a damnburger.
He's so rich...did u know Jesus didn't even have shoes or most nights didn't have a bed to sleep in!
Joel is a money preacher...
Who cares if he got his money back..
He sure isn't helping anyone but him self. God sees you money man...
Got his money back? He's the one that put it there
There should be an investigation on who put the stolen money in the walls that had access to the church.