6v6 really was fine they just needed to rebalance the game and add heroes kinda like how they shouldve been for the 2-3 years when we got nothing after echo came out. They should add a 6v6 mode in the arcade just to see if it gets more play time than ranked.
@@ah-ha723 Yeah if 6v6 is more popular than it shows everything they've done was for nothing basically lol theres even 6v6 leagues i think where alot of people play, i really like open queue because im a tank main so i get another tank bud
@@absolute-xero7502 it’s so stupid 🤦🏿♂️ 6v6 to me is what really made overwatch fun. Past the shields and ult wars. All they had to do was tweak some stuff and it would’ve been fine. Doesn’t make sense why tank has to be 1 but the rest of the roles are still 2. Like how is that any fair to begin with? Logically it makes no sense and it’s the main reason why overwatch 2 is on the steady decline past all the dumb decisions and empty promises that never came to light. Take away the second tank and all it did was cause way more problems than having 2 tanks normally would. The game isn’t unplayable but I prefer 6v6
Such riveting Mauga v Mauga gameplay! Blizzard really knocked it out of the park with his design!! *haaarrrddddd sarcasm* They need to bring back 6 v 6 because this design is total shit.
@@bellsprout7748 they barely tried to fix double shield as all their resources went to OW2. They could've fixed double shield and Bap/Brig to make the comp less oppressive.
@@bellsprout7748Why does everyone mention Orisa when they wanna mention double shield? Outside of the DPS, she was the weakest cog in double shield. Only fortify was a problem and we saw the data of that when Orisa fell off for Hog/Zarya and Hog/Sigma. Like I hated double shield too, but it was supports and Sigma, both of which were never nerfed except little baby ones. Orisa got hammered with nerfs and she was never even the problem child. It's so strange.
@@thiefpotato2759 Youre assuming I'm talking about her effectiveness or balance. No , I'm talking about how FUN she was to play in that meta. And the answer was that she was dogshit
How I would nerf Maug: 1. Make it so his dual fire can’t headshot. 2. Make cardiac overdrive heal a set amount like Bap’s shift. This way, it won’t be so awful against squishies and so broken against tanks. 3. Let enemies use movement abilities in cage fight (like you suggested on the group up podcast). 4. Maybe we nix the whole “unstoppable charge” thing. I mean even the talon heavies from PvE could still be stunned. It’s BS that rein or doom can’t counterpin him.
I appreciate that your not dropping the 5v5 is trash 6v6 is better retoric because blizzard basically would have to shallow there pride and admit they made a mistake and i just dont see that happening at least with this leadership and managers so at least when there are people who. Refuse to let blizzard just make really just bad and counter intuitive decisions because once we stop and accept that decision Blizzard will def never circle it back theres very little chance anyway tbh but not accepting it fully at least keeps it a rare possiblity to at least explore the options. Except now there basically now repeating this mistake but with all heroes having passive heals at best it might do what 5v5 did and bring in players returning that are curious but it ends up just being a vain effort because long term it was not what people wanted and i think blizzard saw the numbers and the semi positive response and considered it a success but really it was more of a case of reviewers/creators naively thinking 5v5 was the reason for theee enjoyment when in reality it was for most players more so that they felt overwatch was back and the increase in numbers old friends coming back and getting to do group matches on comms like the old days and now there is OW content being made again it was very easy to get swept up in it and when that eventually faded we were left with a sequel with actually less features then the OG .. they might be the first team to accomplish this so congrats!!
Honestly, as a Kiri main... i've found to stop healing the tank and shot kunai into his head. At least in metal ranks, that works and kills the mauga. Oh and one and one, even better bc they can't shoot me lol
I think Mauga isn't OP like people think he is since Samito clearly had a very hard time when his Mauga got counter-picks like Sigma, D.va, Ana, Zen, Bastion, Reaper or others (wow he has a lot of counter-picks) and we need to consider that he's a top 500 players getting hard times in way lower ranks than his skill level. if it's the same rank as he s in then those hard times could very much be a losing game so doubt that Mauga is as broken as they've been saying.
@user-mh7hr2xk2the got fucking top 10 pretty much never playing the tank role. Only tank he ever played was Ramattra on release and he only did an unranked to GM, he didn’t even push top 500. That’s speaks VOLUMES on how busted mauga is lol
Yea that’s a valid argument until you lose 10 in a row against mauga. I thought the same when I beat him on doom a couple times but in reality, my team and I had to SWEAT. He’s easily the most oppressive hero
This game will not always be balanced, I’ve made my peace with that. Playing tank is either Mauga or depressing in some cases fun. DPS is a weird grey area. Support… well….
Low skill to reward ratio against anything other than mauga, sigma, queen or dva matchup. You do need game sense and aim to survive on mauga that's why in lower elo you did not encounter mauga players (+ because he is currently p2w)
Also, the fact that I’ve only been to like 2 OT since playing again. Even tho I’m diamond. The rolling or get rolled is killing my want to play. Go back go 6v6
I hate to complain, but the quality is so bad in the video. I set it to max resolution at 1080p, but it's so damn grainy, hard to see any detail at all. Samito, anything you can do to record higher resolutions? I don't know if this is actually 1080p. Maybe can you record and upload on 1440p? Thanks for the content 🙏 EDIT: It seems like the graininess shoots up when there's a lot of action and movement happening on screen. When things are more still and quiet, the resolution becomes much better. Sounds like a compression issue, but I don't see it in other videos, so I don't think it's the compression from uploading to TH-cam. EDIT 2: Look at the footage at 5:20. Very very low resolution. EDIT 3: I see massive FPS drops too, but I had just learned that that's on my side, I have a chrome tab open on a game that's consuming nutty resources. Ended that and saw FPS improve a lot, but low resolution persists.
Disagree OW2 is p2w. I used to play War Robots and THAT'S p2w to the max. I had Mauga for free in about 3 weeks. Plus he was in the arcade from day 1. I just paid attention to the weekly and event challenges and got the BP points for free.
‘Unironically pay to win’, how is that true..? You choose who to play and win with. Free game..? For tracking on squishies, keep it on their necks. Consistency rises from shoulder width, and damage from head shots.
It's sad how tilted you got against the Moira. This stuff happens all the time in OW and yes it's frustrating but if you really want to win, how is moaning in voice / text chat going to improve your chances? It clearly impacted your mental way way more than it should have done. Those games are still winnable (it was still pretty close in the end) and your mercy really wasn't throwing. Yes, the support hard-locked Moira and wasn't going to switch but so did you by only playing Mauga lol.
Moira players don’t deserve to play if they don’t understand what the word “support” means and you’re braindead if you think they weren’t throwing on purpose
They are budget top500 players, if u truly good at the game u won’t blame ur team, especially not on a broken hero like mauga, it’s funny that someone like him does educational that relates do the whole instead of the single player (him)
@luankrasniqi2309 Don't know what "budget top500" is supposed to mean when he consistently hits top10 since 2016. Also, doing educational content about the whole team is supposed to get people to stop tunnel visioning and improve awareness of what the team and enemy are doing. You know, the types of skills that lower ranked players lack.
The most reason why people are stuck in ,,Elo hell“ is because of mechanics, I played with a bunch who know everything about team play and are stuck (gold border in ow1), thatswhy I think samito is not really good, he should look after himself and not the team, he can learn from people like dafran, awkward, who can get rank 1 anytime if the want to
@absolute-xero7502 "top 10 since 2016"... bro was legit stuck in masters and trying to get out for a week playing 10h a day lmao. Dude claims that widow and hitscan take no skill not realizing that aim is a skill lol
I'll never accept support hate from people who play mauga, orisa, bastion, mei, sym, torb, you literally play characters more broken/take less skill than any support hero besides MAYBE baptiste
@@luankrasniqi2309 how exactly is he busted?! He's a giant feeding body and he's only good up against the enemy tank. Yall just bad if you can't beat a mauga and I kinda go back to the supports are way too strong.
@@stevebird838 bro, just look at the t500 leaderboards. It speaks for itself. Coming from a gm player. Not a skill issue. Every high rank player knows he's busted.
There’s only like 2 creators that don’t sit and just talk bad about the game this hero is OP, this match up is better than this match up… overwatch community is the most toxic community full of crybaby’s out there
For y’all looking for the tossing Moira game, it’s 2:12:48
Legend
People like that need to off themselves
He might be the GOAT
tysm lol
They had like 2k heals per 10 ... That's really high for some Moiras tbh
6v6 really was fine they just needed to rebalance the game and add heroes kinda like how they shouldve been for the 2-3 years when we got nothing after echo came out. They should add a 6v6 mode in the arcade just to see if it gets more play time than ranked.
That's what they're afraid of.
@@ah-ha723 Yeah if 6v6 is more popular than it shows everything they've done was for nothing basically lol theres even 6v6 leagues i think where alot of people play, i really like open queue because im a tank main so i get another tank bud
why is it so blurry?
5v5 quite literally solves 1 problem and creates 2 more as a result.
Yes.. I bet u had fun shooting shields all day
@ostop5353 Yes, because the ONLY way to fix double shield was to change the game format.
@@absolute-xero7502not like they couldn’t just nerf the shields hp on all tanks with it but nahhhh change format of game
I'm honestly surprised some brainlets still use the "6v6 bad because double shield" argument.
@@absolute-xero7502 it’s so stupid 🤦🏿♂️ 6v6 to me is what really made overwatch fun. Past the shields and ult wars. All they had to do was tweak some stuff and it would’ve been fine. Doesn’t make sense why tank has to be 1 but the rest of the roles are still 2. Like how is that any fair to begin with? Logically it makes no sense and it’s the main reason why overwatch 2 is on the steady decline past all the dumb decisions and empty promises that never came to light. Take away the second tank and all it did was cause way more problems than having 2 tanks normally would. The game isn’t unplayable but I prefer 6v6
Such riveting Mauga v Mauga gameplay! Blizzard really knocked it out of the park with his design!! *haaarrrddddd sarcasm* They need to bring back 6 v 6 because this design is total shit.
I mean whatever they do Mauga sucks. Like even in 6v6 (not against it btw) Mauga is just boring and lacks depth. Delete him first before anything else
Because Orisa in X2 shield was so amazing
@@bellsprout7748 they barely tried to fix double shield as all their resources went to OW2. They could've fixed double shield and Bap/Brig to make the comp less oppressive.
@@bellsprout7748Why does everyone mention Orisa when they wanna mention double shield? Outside of the DPS, she was the weakest cog in double shield. Only fortify was a problem and we saw the data of that when Orisa fell off for Hog/Zarya and Hog/Sigma.
Like I hated double shield too, but it was supports and Sigma, both of which were never nerfed except little baby ones. Orisa got hammered with nerfs and she was never even the problem child. It's so strange.
@@thiefpotato2759 Youre assuming I'm talking about her effectiveness or balance. No , I'm talking about how FUN she was to play in that meta. And the answer was that she was dogshit
How I would nerf Maug:
1. Make it so his dual fire can’t headshot.
2. Make cardiac overdrive heal a set amount like Bap’s shift. This way, it won’t be so awful against squishies and so broken against tanks.
3. Let enemies use movement abilities in cage fight (like you suggested on the group up podcast).
4. Maybe we nix the whole “unstoppable charge” thing. I mean even the talon heavies from PvE could still be stunned. It’s BS that rein or doom can’t counterpin him.
ok im ngl, this is it right here. maybe a slight tune down on the damage but this is good.
he NEEDS the headshot thing, otherwise he sux ASS
I appreciate that your not dropping the 5v5 is trash 6v6 is better retoric because blizzard basically would have to shallow there pride and admit they made a mistake and i just dont see that happening at least with this leadership and managers so at least when there are people who. Refuse to let blizzard just make really just bad and counter intuitive decisions
because once we stop and accept that decision Blizzard will def never circle it back theres very little chance anyway tbh but not accepting it fully at least keeps it a rare possiblity to at least explore the options.
Except now there basically now repeating this mistake but with all heroes having passive heals at best it might do what 5v5 did and bring in players returning that are curious but it ends up just being a vain effort because long term it was not what people wanted and i think blizzard saw the numbers and the semi positive response and considered it a success but really it was more of a case of reviewers/creators naively thinking 5v5 was the reason for theee enjoyment
when in reality it was for most players more so that they felt overwatch was back and the increase in numbers old friends coming back and getting to do group matches on comms like the old days and now there is OW content being made again it was very easy to get swept up in it and when that eventually faded we were left with a sequel with actually less features then the OG .. they might be the first team to accomplish this so congrats!!
Honestly, as a Kiri main... i've found to stop healing the tank and shot kunai into his head. At least in metal ranks, that works and kills the mauga. Oh and one and one, even better bc they can't shoot me lol
That Moira taking the mega health pack and then not healing you is peak OW. What an insufferable community 😂
almost as insufferable as these whiny smurfing streamers who cry about their teammates
@@bobinasackfacts
It's still better than teammates who keep fighting at 5 hp when there is a health pack right behind them
I think Mauga isn't OP like people think he is since Samito clearly had a very hard time when his Mauga got counter-picks like Sigma, D.va, Ana, Zen, Bastion, Reaper or others (wow he has a lot of counter-picks) and we need to consider that he's a top 500 players getting hard times in way lower ranks than his skill level. if it's the same rank as he s in then those hard times could very much be a losing game so doubt that Mauga is as broken as they've been saying.
@user-mh7hr2xk2the got fucking top 10 pretty much never playing the tank role. Only tank he ever played was Ramattra on release and he only did an unranked to GM, he didn’t even push top 500. That’s speaks VOLUMES on how busted mauga is lol
They're saving the 6v6 format as a new feature for Overwatch 3.
“But Samito, I picked X tank vs Mauga and I DESTROYED him. I don’t see why everyone is complaining about Mauga?”
Yea that’s a valid argument until you lose 10 in a row against mauga. I thought the same when I beat him on doom a couple times but in reality, my team and I had to SWEAT. He’s easily the most oppressive hero
A Miracle would be me getting into Platinum at 47.
You get into masters just for paying blizzard 20 bucks buddy
@@CJMattias 10!
Now we need unranked to gm on ball
Awkward does it
@alexandretuzi5984 Bella just did one too and I'd say it's better if you want to learn ball cz she's a ball main.
This game will not always be balanced, I’ve made my peace with that. Playing tank is either Mauga or depressing in some cases fun. DPS is a weird grey area.
Support… well….
imma be honest I just woke up my TH-cam autoplayed your 4hour video while I was asleep. I gotta say I was dreaming good. So Keep up the grind sir!
Low skill to reward ratio against anything other than mauga, sigma, queen or dva matchup. You do need game sense and aim to survive on mauga that's why in lower elo you did not encounter mauga players (+ because he is currently p2w)
Pumped to re watch the AI Moria game on Collo.
Timestamp?
stamp pls
@@corndogaftermidnight13 2:12:48
@@jasonlopez5475 W
Why is the 1080p video like a 480 video????? Is it just me?
2:18:00 is the moment I knew moira was indeed stream sniping and trolling. He saw you were low and took the health pack on purpose LOL
* Ruins games by stomping low ranked players
* Complains about getting a game ruined by a throwing teammate
Nice
Man that first match Made me rage 😅
Mauga+bastion= Hell inbound
I love bullying Mauga with doom fist😂
Youre in bronze
That Mauga is probably playing on a nokia.
There's nothing educational about a mauga unranked to gm
the education: stand and shoot
20:30 허공답보 굿!
Bro, I shot the tank and it worked. But then after 3 wins I shot the tank and my team all dies first. 😢
Great fun balanced game play
Cage fight on the E cool down with out unlimited ammo. Self heal with unlimited ammo is the ult. That might be better. With some number tweaking.
That sounds unbelievably more broken
19:50 casual T posing Ana
You got plat 5 from a 5-0 which is crazy I got GM5 from a brand new account and a 5-2 record. Im guessing your account isnt fresh though.
It's different for basically every fresh account it also matters whether you won alot of quick play games before playing comp
@@techno2949a lot*
how do you place gm5 on a new account going 5-2. wtf is this game even
@@jesuissweet Because quickplay results are taken into account!
@@jesuissweet The first game was a Masters 3 match but it could be based of my other account idk how that'd work tho
I thought you quit this game months ago?
Sam you’re the definition of smarter then everyone in the lobby while still having amazing mechanics I love watching you keep up the great work ❤️
Because he's a top 50 smurfing what would you expect
smarter than* and what he said ^
@@techno2949 right?! obviously, like what is this comment lmao
Why does it look like hes aimboting? Wth 💀💀
His aim is garbage. If you think this is aimbotting then you don't know good aim looks like
Can blizzard drop overwatch 1 like they did ov2 genuine question
Hero seems balanced
he’s definitely toggling😂😂
Also, the fact that I’ve only been to like 2 OT since playing again. Even tho I’m diamond. The rolling or get rolled is killing my want to play. Go back go 6v6
I wonder how much money blizz made off Mauga unranked to GMs + people alting for Mauga 1-trick accounts LOL.
1:16:12 Highlight of the video 😘
I'll pay again for 6v6.
I hate to complain, but the quality is so bad in the video. I set it to max resolution at 1080p, but it's so damn grainy, hard to see any detail at all.
Samito, anything you can do to record higher resolutions? I don't know if this is actually 1080p. Maybe can you record and upload on 1440p?
Thanks for the content 🙏
EDIT: It seems like the graininess shoots up when there's a lot of action and movement happening on screen. When things are more still and quiet, the resolution becomes much better. Sounds like a compression issue, but I don't see it in other videos, so I don't think it's the compression from uploading to TH-cam.
EDIT 2: Look at the footage at 5:20. Very very low resolution.
EDIT 3: I see massive FPS drops too, but I had just learned that that's on my side, I have a chrome tab open on a game that's consuming nutty resources. Ended that and saw FPS improve a lot, but low resolution persists.
Nicee
Disagree OW2 is p2w. I used to play War Robots and THAT'S p2w to the max. I had Mauga for free in about 3 weeks. Plus he was in the arcade from day 1. I just paid attention to the weekly and event challenges and got the BP points for free.
‘Unironically pay to win’, how is that true..? You choose who to play and win with. Free game..?
For tracking on squishies, keep it on their necks. Consistency rises from shoulder width, and damage from head shots.
2:24:55 loser's words
This format & role passive truly make this game boring
you didn't hit gm???
At the beginning, it’s almost like you’re supposed to switch to fit the team ms need not some selfish Call of duty plays.
It's sad how tilted you got against the Moira. This stuff happens all the time in OW and yes it's frustrating but if you really want to win, how is moaning in voice / text chat going to improve your chances? It clearly impacted your mental way way more than it should have done. Those games are still winnable (it was still pretty close in the end) and your mercy really wasn't throwing. Yes, the support hard-locked Moira and wasn't going to switch but so did you by only playing Mauga lol.
Hey stfu. I bet your low elo
Moira players don’t deserve to play if they don’t understand what the word “support” means and you’re braindead if you think they weren’t throwing on purpose
Bro he had 3k healing and stole his mega right in front of him how obvious does it have to be that hes stream sniping
We're talking about Samito the dude who's entire channel is based on complaining I thought that's why people watched him lol
Shut up 🤣
oh samito is smurfing again.
not a fan of Moira too many bad players
You are the whiniest streamer I have ever seen. You dropped the ball so many times and took it out on everyone else. Just play another game already.
Damn this game is terrible now
Educational... Lol
Orisa hard counters Doomfist
Streamer makes obvious mistake….
My team my team
You're lying to yourself if you haven't made a mistake and at least thought "WTF TEAM FJFIRKRNYTIOEEO4NTOFODOE?!?!?"
You're so dishonest lol.
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Gosh i hate this guy... gm player blaming teamates in gold ..
They are budget top500 players, if u truly good at the game u won’t blame ur team, especially not on a broken hero like mauga, it’s funny that someone like him does educational that relates do the whole instead of the single player (him)
@@luankrasniqi2309 exactly!!
@luankrasniqi2309 Don't know what "budget top500" is supposed to mean when he consistently hits top10 since 2016. Also, doing educational content about the whole team is supposed to get people to stop tunnel visioning and improve awareness of what the team and enemy are doing. You know, the types of skills that lower ranked players lack.
The most reason why people are stuck in ,,Elo hell“ is because of mechanics, I played with a bunch who know everything about team play and are stuck (gold border in ow1), thatswhy I think samito is not really good, he should look after himself and not the team, he can learn from people like dafran, awkward, who can get rank 1 anytime if the want to
@absolute-xero7502 "top 10 since 2016"... bro was legit stuck in masters and trying to get out for a week playing 10h a day lmao. Dude claims that widow and hitscan take no skill not realizing that aim is a skill lol
I'll never accept support hate from people who play mauga, orisa, bastion, mei, sym, torb, you literally play characters more broken/take less skill than any support hero besides MAYBE baptiste
🎣
Do people just forget aiming is a skill or something? Also kiriko is right there. 2 get out of jail free cards, skinny a pole.
Lmao...mauga is fine. Its a support issue 😂
And by this logic, every other hero whos been played for an unranked to gm is also busted 🤦♂️
Dude... no.. just no
What are u smoking on? He’s broken af, just like every other hero they brought new to the game (soj, ram, iliari), they will nerf him sooner or later
@@luankrasniqi2309 how exactly is he busted?! He's a giant feeding body and he's only good up against the enemy tank. Yall just bad if you can't beat a mauga and I kinda go back to the supports are way too strong.
@@stevebird838 bro, just look at the t500 leaderboards. It speaks for itself. Coming from a gm player. Not a skill issue. Every high rank player knows he's busted.
There’s only like 2 creators that don’t sit and just talk bad about the game this hero is OP, this match up is better than this match up… overwatch community is the most toxic community full of crybaby’s out there
Lmao who tf still enjoys unranked to gm