Not much today is put together to resist what I call normal use. I too fix everything I can myself. At least when I get done I know I can use whatever it is. Current project, 1970 60 HP Johnson Outboard. Some folks "helped" out a young man who had gotten it as a gift from his Father In Law. I find something they messed up, order parts, wait, install, find the next screwup. I think I have the last one fixed. Started it on the hose and my neighbor came right over and said that I got it running on all three cylinders. He could hear the difference from the other day. Good luck with the new trailer. Hopefully DT wants to preserve their reputation.
PJ and Big Tex were great trailers when they were individually owned. Every since they were bought by the same big corporation, the quality has gone to hell in a hand basket. That's what happens when you value profits over quality.
agreed, my god father owns 2 one from pre buyout and one from post... its despicable in the difference between the quality of metal and welds from old to new.
I dislike that when you wish to use tools and they need to be fixed. Hope you are able to fix them and continue with the swap. I’m also looking for a 12 valve in my part of the world.
You can replace the ball bearing under the transmission jack's pressure relief screw, that should make it seal up correctly. Your uncle probably tightened that screw too hard and damaged the ball bearing, that is REALLY common. You might want to get an air over hydraulic ram for your engine hoist, if you have ready access to air. It makes it a lot easier to lift the arm over a long range, instead of fiddling with the jack handle forever. You might also want to put a spigot handle on the ram pressure relief screw (you have to file and tap the jack pressure relief screw), it gives you much better control when lowering an engine/trans into an engine bay.
Put the 6speed in the 12valve I love my nv5600 on my 01 they way the ratios are split over the ratios of the nv4500 make a world of difference in driveability in my opinion
This is the exact reason I want to swap my NV4500 for a 6 speed. From 3-4 & 4-5 there's just so much gap, that it makes hauling up any significant grade cumbersome
Lol, ol Hobart wire feed, I have one of those, its really a Miller knock off, and then I have a Miller stick welder/ generator, gas powered, that I use out on the job, if I cant get it back to the shop. Looks like VBelt has learned like I have, its cheaper and faster and better to do it yourself than to hire it done. Trying to hire welding done is both expencive and time cosuming, ive never regreted buy my welders and I use them all the time. Really enjoy the videos, you guys seem to have a lot of similar situations out there, that we do around here.
the NV4500 is stronger than the NV5600. I thought since the H.O. model 24 valve had a 6 six speed (NV5600) that the transmission was better than the NV4500. I've also read that putting the NV5600 clutch and the input shaft on the NV4500 will make the 5 speed even stronger
This is late, but I rebuilt the 4500 in my 03 common rail with ebay parts. New style main shaft to fix 5th and new synchros 60k miles ago. Extreme horse tune the whole time. Rebuilt it in my dirty garage
Yeah I work for a company that rebuilds white fed ex trucks but not all of them are fed ex trucks there can be bread trucks and other white trucks and we get alot of trucks from California and 90% of them have Cummins mostly 5.9 24v but there are some 12v in there too
i saw Arthur this afternoon on i5 near woodland...that diamond C trailer he has looks BEAST!! also his ford is sweet too! he passed me and a big rig ...ol boy was moving!!!! keep up the great work sam!!!
Pj.and load trail trailers are garbage. I bought a new dump trailer. The cross members were not welded to the frame. It was just a floating weld. I brought it back they told me it was from over loading it... I rewelded all the cross members. Minsota trailer is the way to go. Thanks for the video!
If you need to rebuild an nv4500, get the brass synchro kit so you can run regular fluid vs dodge unicorn tears. $10-$14 a quart is better than giving Chrysler a single penny.
Yea man the dove tail is the way to go they are tough trailers but hey I mean we all gotta start some were.......you can’t allways start with the best sometimes you gotta work your way up to the best stuff
Theres 2 styles. Round top and the square top. They also changed the ratios in the nv4500. All were done in 98. Not really a fan of the nv4500 or the 5600. Good quality parts are almost non exsistant.
Would you be will to trade me the cup holder insert for the 2WD floor console and I’ll send you the whole floor console with the 4x4 shift boot? I can’t find I e anywhere for my 2WD. I just need that cup holder insert piece.
I have a 93 dodge 4x4 auto. I would like to put in a g56 manual. Would I be in for trouble if I get a electric transfer shift, or would it be simple to change it to manual if needed. Thanks for your videos.
It's almost a year but I am currently doing a 47re to g 56 swap into my sons 2001 3500 4x4 duelly and would like to know how you did the clutch (O.E.M. parts or aftermarket flywheel and clutch conversion kit) thanks for the great vids. I just need to git er done because I'm wantin to fishin.
I have a little story some of you guys may enjoy. We have a local company that builds trailers. I’ve never used one, but my brother used to work there, they seemed ok. Well, I sell tires. Come to find out, the mechanic at the trailer shop is telling everyone that 14 ply trailer tires (the ST235/85R16, not the commercial grade 17.5’s or anything like that) are bending the spindles. Built too heavy and not enough cushion. It has nothing to do with the cheap Chinese steel he’s using. I know I won’t be wasting my time with anything from them.
What size trailers? Chinese metal isnt going to be different than any other metal you can buy. Especially if we are talking about carbon steel. Anyhow, its simply a design flaw or misuse of the trailers. Not once have I seen a trailer that is used by a tradesman/ laborer that is not treated like dog shit. If youre sheering studs off then its because theyre being overloaded. Simple as that. is he following the basic 60/40 rule?
I say keep the ‘98 the way it is other than the small things you said you were gonna do to it. And then I’d six speed swap the ‘97. That’s just me though
Hey I'm trying to do a nv4500 swap on a 24v but my nv4500 is missing the bellhousing clutch forks and everything on the input shaft please any help would be appreciated
I've watched a video..a 5.9 hooked up to a eaton fuller 6 speed manual..how difficult would that swap be. I also watched another video. A 5.9 hooked up to a allison 1000 automatic transmission ( Caconversions.com)
Damn that’s shitty mines been great but the only thing I noticed is it dosent line itself up for 3rd, when I get 2nd to third I kinda have to find third myself where my factory one would just fall right into third but that’s been it maybe I got an “ok” one
Allstate gear fucking sucks I had a 4500 from them that sucked!!! Come to find out they installed a bearing backwards that’s y at 8k miles it locked up
Really enjoy your videos but Man that music is kinda shockingly loud from the video audio. Just saying. Watching at night and then the music wakes up the dog. LOL
idk why I turn down the music volume so much its quieter than my voice according to the sound graph on the computer. ill keep working on it thanks for watching
Update on the monster ramps, dealer says its USER ERROR and they don’t want to mess with fixing it. Looks like I’ll be fixing it properly myself!
TheFumminsPage rpope that’s horrible costumer service. At least you will know it’s done right this time!
Ramps look good, can’t wait to see the new trailer. V-belt did a heck of a job with the welding.
Ahhh ! Manual transmissions 😍😍🤗
I like that old Ford. I was talking with my brother and we both subscribed the same day, before you had 300 subs. Still here and enjoying content.
Jay G hell yeah man! I remember you from back then! One of the originals! Greatly appreciate it! Was that you that started up an Instagram?
Yeah that's me. Also I'll donate a front driveline for a nv4500 if your in need
Yeah I don't comment much but I do watch every video 👍🏿
6 Speed get my vote, never made so would be sweet as could be.
Not much today is put together to resist what I call normal use. I too fix everything I can myself. At least when I get done I know I can use whatever it is. Current project, 1970 60 HP Johnson Outboard. Some folks "helped" out a young man who had gotten it as a gift from his Father In Law. I find something they messed up, order parts, wait, install, find the next screwup. I think I have the last one fixed. Started it on the hose and my neighbor came right over and said that I got it running on all three cylinders. He could hear the difference from the other day. Good luck with the new trailer. Hopefully DT wants to preserve their reputation.
PJ and Big Tex were great trailers when they were individually owned. Every since they were bought by the same big corporation, the quality has gone to hell in a hand basket. That's what happens when you value profits over quality.
agreed, my god father owns 2 one from pre buyout and one from post... its despicable in the difference between the quality of metal and welds from old to new.
Yes sir way I heard it is a split family, 2 mouths feeding 1 stomach! Hence you saying they are together.
That old Ford is a beauty
I dislike that when you wish to use tools and they need to be fixed. Hope you are able to fix them and continue with the swap. I’m also looking for a 12 valve in my part of the world.
You can replace the ball bearing under the transmission jack's pressure relief screw, that should make it seal up correctly. Your uncle probably tightened that screw too hard and damaged the ball bearing, that is REALLY common. You might want to get an air over hydraulic ram for your engine hoist, if you have ready access to air. It makes it a lot easier to lift the arm over a long range, instead of fiddling with the jack handle forever. You might also want to put a spigot handle on the ram pressure relief screw (you have to file and tap the jack pressure relief screw), it gives you much better control when lowering an engine/trans into an engine bay.
I came here for 12 valve 5 and 6 speed tech and I'm learning about trailer ramps. Scratches head.
Dozen other videos on the swaps. Watch those ;)
bait video
guess he is a switch hitta
Put the 6speed in the 12valve I love my nv5600 on my 01 they way the ratios are split over the ratios of the nv4500 make a world of difference in driveability in my opinion
This is the exact reason I want to swap my NV4500 for a 6 speed. From 3-4 & 4-5 there's just so much gap, that it makes hauling up any significant grade cumbersome
Lol, ol Hobart wire feed, I have one of those, its really a Miller knock off, and then I have a Miller stick welder/ generator, gas powered, that I use out on the job, if I cant get it back to the shop. Looks like VBelt has learned like I have, its cheaper and faster and better to do it yourself than to hire it done. Trying to hire welding done is both expencive and time cosuming, ive never regreted buy my welders and I use them all the time. Really enjoy the videos, you guys seem to have a lot of similar situations out there, that we do around here.
it aint a knock off. Theyre functionaly identical. Hobart is simply for the layman customer
the NV4500 is stronger than the NV5600. I thought since the H.O. model 24 valve had a 6 six speed (NV5600) that the transmission was better than the NV4500. I've also read that putting the NV5600 clutch and the input shaft on the NV4500 will make the 5 speed even stronger
This is late, but I rebuilt the 4500 in my 03 common rail with ebay parts. New style main shaft to fix 5th and new synchros 60k miles ago. Extreme horse tune the whole time. Rebuilt it in my dirty garage
Got a link?
Your ramps are looking good ! Nice job 👍🏻
Yeah I work for a company that rebuilds white fed ex trucks but not all of them are fed ex trucks there can be bread trucks and other white trucks and we get alot of trucks from California and 90% of them have Cummins mostly 5.9 24v but there are some 12v in there too
i saw Arthur this afternoon on i5 near woodland...that diamond C trailer he has looks BEAST!! also his ford is sweet too! he passed me and a big rig ...ol boy was moving!!!! keep up the great work sam!!!
haha hes a go getter! and thank you!
i still say paint the truck red but silver is a nice color. goodluck with those transmission. also v-belt great job on those welds.
Pj.and load trail trailers are garbage. I bought a new dump trailer. The cross members were not welded to the frame. It was just a floating weld. I brought it back they told me it was from over loading it... I rewelded all the cross members. Minsota trailer is the way to go. Thanks for the video!
Looks like your extensions work like a charm!!
6 speed. Fuller 6 speed would be so cool.
David Moore 10* speed
V-BELT and SON dang they sure are heavy [700esh] the 6 speed is 350. They have a great gear spread and stupid torque rating from the get go.
Im doing a 5 speed swap on my 01 cummins. got donator truck that is a 97.. Do I also need to change the TCM ? Thanks
If you need to rebuild an nv4500, get the brass synchro kit so you can run regular fluid vs dodge unicorn tears. $10-$14 a quart is better than giving Chrysler a single penny.
Amsoil makes a fluid for the 5 speed
@@gjones5153 if you use factory synchro, the Amsoil fluid allows the to deteriorate. If you switch to brass synchro, you can use the Amsoil brand.
I've got 2 brand new Mopar doors in the boxes for 2nd Gen ouad cab also have,a divorced transfer case came of a 75 hi boy ford
If you or your dad need help welding let me know. I have my portable welder and torches on a welding rig trailer.
That ford in the intro is nice i have a 77:)
go six speed or 10 speed eaton
Can't go wrong with a 6 speed
Man I love all of your pickups bud 😎👌 Always an inspiration. Great work ethic the both of you 👍
Thank you sir for that intro the memories it just brought back riding in my dad's now my old 76 high boy👍😁
Don't really like the 3rd to 4th gear ratio with the cummins on the NV4500, wish there was a hd version of the M5OD which has the perfect ratios
Thanks for sharing Sam and 🍻here’s to hitting that 25K and getting that Diamond C👍👍👍
Yea man the dove tail is the way to go they are tough trailers but hey I mean we all gotta start some were.......you can’t allways start with the best sometimes you gotta work your way up to the best stuff
Theres 2 styles. Round top and the square top. They also changed the ratios in the nv4500. All were done in 98. Not really a fan of the nv4500 or the 5600. Good quality parts are almost non exsistant.
Alan I can agree with that
Hey Great set-up! i Have an 080 as well and just got a NV4500 to put in my 2nd gen. Please share what type of dangle head you run on your 080. Thanx
I wanna swap a 12 valve into my 01 f350 crew cab
Sam, nice channel. I remember riding to soccer practice with you in your dads 01 cab and chassis haha. Good times.
Would you be will to trade me the cup holder insert for the 2WD floor console and I’ll send you the whole floor console with the 4x4 shift boot? I can’t find I e anywhere for my 2WD. I just need that cup holder insert piece.
I have a new pj gooseneck trailer with the monster ramps I haven't had any issues yet. But I do wish I would have gotten the hydraulic dove
"Who the heck is this? Guy can't shift!"
Superb as always
I think I’m more excited about the 12v then you are lol. Waiting for you to start cracking into them
love the old ford truck
I have a 93 dodge 4x4 auto. I would like to put in a g56 manual. Would I be in for trouble if I get a electric transfer shift, or would it be simple to change it to manual if needed. Thanks for your videos.
Manual is easier to swap
That k5 blazer looks pretty sweet
Brandon Evans it’s on the to do list! I miss that rig big time
It's almost a year but I am currently doing a 47re to g 56 swap into my sons 2001 3500 4x4 duelly and would like to know how you did the clutch (O.E.M. parts or aftermarket flywheel and clutch conversion kit) thanks for the great vids. I just need to git er done because I'm wantin to fishin.
Just get a clutch for the g56. Everything is straight bolt in. All hydraulics are the same
Thanks for the trailer information I am look for a goose neck so know I know what to look out for thanks again and greatly appreciated
I have a little story some of you guys may enjoy. We have a local company that builds trailers. I’ve never used one, but my brother used to work there, they seemed ok. Well, I sell tires. Come to find out, the mechanic at the trailer shop is telling everyone that 14 ply trailer tires (the ST235/85R16, not the commercial grade 17.5’s or anything like that) are bending the spindles. Built too heavy and not enough cushion. It has nothing to do with the cheap Chinese steel he’s using. I know I won’t be wasting my time with anything from them.
Challis Venstra had same issue. Upgraded to 17.5 from another source all good now
What size trailers? Chinese metal isnt going to be different than any other metal you can buy. Especially if we are talking about carbon steel. Anyhow, its simply a design flaw or misuse of the trailers. Not once have I seen a trailer that is used by a tradesman/ laborer that is not treated like dog shit. If youre sheering studs off then its because theyre being overloaded. Simple as that.
is he following the basic 60/40 rule?
I say keep the ‘98 the way it is other than the small things you said you were gonna do to it. And then I’d six speed swap the ‘97. That’s just me though
DodgeDude 908 yeah 98 is staying auto for sure
Hey I'm trying to do a nv4500 swap on a 24v but my nv4500 is missing the bellhousing clutch forks and everything on the input shaft please any help would be appreciated
Should come with your new clutch or buy it from Napa
What, someone called you a millennial the nerve of some people. LOL Great channel by the way, you have me looking for an old 12 valve to fix up.
I've got a 95 12 valve 5sp for sale in wv 268xxx miles. I'm the second owner have original bill of sale
Full manual valve body ftw
I've watched a video..a 5.9 hooked up to a eaton fuller 6 speed manual..how difficult would that swap be. I also watched another video. A 5.9 hooked up to a allison 1000 automatic transmission ( Caconversions.com)
LOAD TRAIL TRAILERS great trailers
Just put one of those actuators on my 12 valve
2nd of three 👍🏻
Keeping old trailer when new one comes in
Tony Brown yeah. I like the idea of having a back up trailer
That ole ford sounded good when it started. Lol. I thought u was leaving the 98 auto?
Lone Wolf yeah it’s gonna be auto for life
Hey does a v10 2500 nv4500 fits into our 24v Cummins
Yea
@@VBELTandSON yes sir I found one now I can start my build. Thanks to you
@jafinjohn7367 did you get it done?
@@jamiegarrett3869 oh yeah it’s all done since last year. Truck is running like a champ
Why can't the ramps stay horizontal during transport?
peep39 I can put them either way depends on the load I’m hauling
Can you do a really in depth of the process of the 5 speed swap? I'm gonna be starting one in the next few months here on my 97
Stephen Santana yes sir
@@VBELTandSON also if your dad's old nv4500 is gonna be up for sale let me know!
Break the barriers and go G56 Sam!
Woos 31 find me one and I’ll do it!!:)
@@VBELTandSON 10-4!!
Hey man! Literally just installed a nv4500 from All state gear, what do you not like about yours?
The Diesel Ranch fucking sucks!!!!!! Mine lasted 8k miles and locked up
Hard shifting and mine falls out of 5th gear
Damn that’s shitty mines been great but the only thing I noticed is it dosent line itself up for 3rd, when I get 2nd to third I kinda have to find third myself where my factory one would just fall right into third but that’s been it maybe I got an “ok” one
V-BELT and SON hard shifting on mine to!!
The Diesel Ranch mine locked up in third!! With a 3ft pry bar couldn’t get it out. Get them to warranty is
Keep up the good work.:-)
What year and what motor is in the old ford
Ryan Meeker 76 and 390
Nice i have a 77 with a 351 modified
Allstate gear fucking sucks I had a 4500 from them that sucked!!! Come to find out they installed a bearing backwards that’s y at 8k miles it locked up
my 93 has the getrag 360 in it
Cant beat a gator trailer
But love the vids kept them coming
6 speed
Does your dad have a cdl or do you to have 2 different types of job
BatmanBeyond he doesn’t have a cdl
I got something to send you gonna have to check the P.O. Shortly I let you know
I have a shifter tower that would work for you! I could send you one!
that would be awesome!
Do you have a P.O. Box I could send it to?
Really enjoy your videos but Man that music is kinda shockingly loud from the video audio. Just saying. Watching at night and then the music wakes up the dog. LOL
idk why I turn down the music volume so much its quieter than my voice according to the sound graph on the computer. ill keep working on it
thanks for watching
10 SPEED FULLER 🤣🤣🤣
I say 6 speed. Much better trans
Go 7LL
In all do to respect you you should try making a new outro
Zayne Borga if I have some free time but what’s wrong with current one?
Should do a giveaway on one of these transmissions i need one for my truck.
Alan Croker I wish I was baller enough to give couple grand items away hahah
Yah pretty sure your not the only one i picked up a 87f350 with a 12 valve and they picked the worst transmission to put behind it.
Has a c6 3 speed so the truck is screaming at 3200 at 65mph
Alan Croker oh damn gotta swap that trans for something anything better than that lol
Ford.....
PJ trailers 👎🏻
You rarely video the actual work, making a huge mismatch between title and what's shown...
watch out for the next couple videos then Charlie.