i have a 75 f250 4x4 with a Perkins 6 liter 6 cyc and a fuller 10 speed. i love that trans there is only a 400 rpm drop between gears so the engine is never out of its power band. im running a 14 inch twin disc clutch out of a 60 series chevy. im building a pickup for a friend with the same combo but its getting a 16 inch twin disc. hes towing a 40 foot fifth wheel travel trailer.
Nice work man! The mounts for the divorced t case look like they could be beefier and also go frame rail to frame rail to resist rotational torque on the bottom as well as the top. But man nice work!
@@jagersgarage490 gotcha. I had a Suzuki samurai rigged up for off-roading on Toyota axles and 36's. They have divorced tcase. I ended up getting a laser cut ring that went around the entire case and grabbed every mounting bolt that held the front and back case halves together. If you didn't do that they always seemed to crack. Granted a lighter case, but I always just assumed there was a lot of torque on them especially in low range.
Its mounted basically the same as the truck it come out of. If I were off roading I'd definitely add more support but it's just a tow rig. I don't ever use low range first gear is almost 9:1
I did this on my 01 DRW , didn't have to worry about a transfer case, sure wish i could weld as good as you did in the inside of the cab. Also like the Trans mount you made out of the OEM, I used the trans mounting holes in the frame and fabricated perches for rubber mounts on both sides, then fabricated two L shaped mounts that bolt to the side of my FSO8406 and rest on the mounts.
Do u happen to have pics. I'm doin a fs5205a in my 94 dually an wanted to see how it would fit. G56 an an eaton 5 speed are qbout the same height so I'm hoping I don't have to cut the cab
I'm doing this swap now with a fs5406 I converted to an overdrive trans. You saved me a ton of time on the trans cross member with those measurements you gave. How did you do the clutch release did you cut the factory lever on the trans and drill a pocket in it for the slave cylinder rod to rest in . Great video bud
How much was cut off depends on the arm you have. From the center of the shaft to the end when cut was about 3in with the 1/4 in deep hole for the rod at about 2.5in
Jagers Garage I have an 08 with the auto 6 speed. She is on her way out. Can I do this conversion in mine? I realize the bell housing will bolt up. What I'm wondering is about the transfer case. Will I need to do the divorced transfer like this? I already have a tuner. So trouble codes can be cleared.
Yes you will need a divorced transfer case unless you want to pay or have access to a machine shop to make a married mount and coupler. There is a guy on the cummins forum that did it and shared lots of info.
@@jagersgarage490 I actually have a machine shop in my boat shop lol. Prob be way easier to just do a divorced setup. Still not sure if I will even do it.
I would say if you have the means do it married then you don't have to build another crossmember or worry about a mid shaft or setting the angles. I would have but machine shops here are very expensive.
Ok very cool thanks ill have to show you some pic of mine when it done I've got an flywheel housing and bell housing along with transfer case and transmission I just have to get a the e fly wheel and clutch and starter I'm ordering them this weekend hopefully thank you again for all your help
@@jarrett754 I did the Eaton fuller 6 speed OD swap it was very straight forward. I did a detached 205 transfer case, 2in body lift and built a crossmember. Had to build a bracket for the slave cylinder to reverse the direction of force. Other than that it was plug and play.. also mine was a D350 ex cab dully, I did the 4x4 swap. I used a Dana 70 rear end and Dana 60 kingpin front end.
@@michaelcowan7456 do you think it was be just as easy doing it without the 4wd swap? I really like the fact that my truck has stayed mostly original but the getrag is getting harder to find parts for as time goes on. And the previous owner had their way with it (find em grind em lug the crap out of it style of driving) so I would really like to take on a more robust solution. The problem is that truck is currently my daily driver so I’m hoping for a way I can do the entire swap in the span of 3-4 days
Is that flywheel housing that you have in the description the exact housing you need or are there variations you can use? If so do you have the other part numbers?
There are others you can use. The one listed has the starter on the drivers side most all the others the starter is on the passenger side. Keeping it on the driver's means not having to change the wiring. I don't have any other part #s now I did the swap almost 10 years ago and don't know what happened to all my research info
@jagersgarage490 what you think a cost of conversion on my 04 would be doing a 8spd manual? And reflashing my ECM from automatic to manual I could do that with a smarty turner I suppose
Cost really depends if you are doing it yourself or paying someone to do it and how you get the parts. It's been awhile but if I recall I had $3,000-$5,000 into just the parts including drive lines and flanges to do it. But I took my time and found deals like $300 for a flywheel housing vs $2000 at the dealer and I paid $350 for my 10 speed a new one was about $4000 at the time. As for a tune or smarty that could be done I'm not sure on the 04 if necessary. On my 97 when I went auto to manual there was no need for a tune but it's a 12 valve. I'd imagine an 04 would need something
I cant remember or find the recipe for what I used it was several years ago. But this is the website I used. I got the ones that were a little longer because they were quite a bit cheaper this is the 1710 page they also have a 1550 page.
Love the video and information on it. Thank you Very much. This cleared up a few things for me as I am researching this some. Curious if you know if this would work on a common rail? I have an 06 with the g56 and 177, miles. I am wanting to do a 13spd on it. My biggest concern is the SAE#2 bell housing if it’ll bolt to the back on the common rail. I have not found anything online about common rails being swapped to 10spds. Thank you and love the videos. Keep them coming!
It can be done on a common rail should be the same flywheel housing that I used as I'm pretty sure the blocks are the same. If the block are different you will just have to find an SAE2 flywheel housing for the common rail.
@@godspeedparadeteam I have not yet. I’m waiting since I have other things that require the funds at the moment and my transmission is still working fine. But I will definitely be doing it in the future. I will also do videos on it when I do the build. Since there are not a lot out there and none on a newer coming rail truck. I will also be doing mine In 4wheel drive version
They don't make a common rail sae 2 clutch housing. One bolt hole is different an the common rail have a cam seal inset into the factory adapter plate. So a sae 2 housing will work just one hole will not line up. Then have a cam seal groove machined in it an bolt it up an go on about your day
The big problem is finding the housing it's hard to get info. I'm am very confident the common rail housing exists as they used common rails in freightliner fl60s .
I looked into that at the time I could not find a kit to divorce an NP241. I did find one for I believe it was the NP271 but I don't have a 271 and had no luck sourcing one locally.
Ok when I’m searching for the bell housing I just type in sea 2 bellhousing and looking for a medium duty 10 speed Eaton fuller transmission I’m wanting to do the same thing but I want to get as much information as I possibly can to do this
For the bellhousing the best bet is to get the eaton overhaul or parts breakdown manual for the 6610 or 610 it will have bellhousing part #s in it. You can get/read the manuals on line.
With my 10speed I have a Dana 21 the 6 speed I did is an NP205 and a friend of mine who is doing a 15 speed is using an NP205. If cost was not a consideration I would use an Atlas II
Great videos I am looking to do my own on my 96. is there any chance you can get me the part number for the fly wheel housing and starter you used in these conversions?
What is the difference ratio, I installed that same gearbox and the gears are very short, in 6th gear it reaches 60 km at almost 1500 rpm, i have ram 2500 2007
Digging through driveline parts catalogs. Found a 1710 slip yoke that a 1480 stub shaft would fit in. Then a 1480 flange yoke that would bolt to a 1410 drive flange on the tranfer case. They were all off the shelf parts just had to put them together.
It was in a buddy's truck he still prefers the 6406. They shift about the same but the 6406 hasn't needed replaced if he had the 5600 he would have had to replace it again by now
currently doing this swap. Got a 98 12v and a 6306. Is the slave cylinder you used the oem for the truck? i thought these clutches had a cable pulling on the arm not hydraulic
Depends I am assuming the 8.3 is and SAE #2 if it is then if you have an SAE #2 flywheel housing and flywheel for the 5.9 then yes. The 8.3 flywheel housing will not fit the 5.9.
Rear sump engines are usually angled back to help the oil drain to the sump in the oil pan. I took a measurement stock before I removed anything then set it at the same angle when I installed the new transmission mount.
How did you figure out the proper throw for the slave cylinder? Did you have to mess around with different length arms until you got the proper travel?
Yes it would work a 2wd would actually be alot easier. As for gears that really depends. If you get an overdrive trans it will be basically the same as stock. If the trans is not overdrive or you have larger tires. Go online and you can find a calculator where you put in tire size trans, axle gears and speed. Then it will give you an rpm and you can decide from there. The most fuel efficient rpm for a stock 12 valve is about 1700
I have a 99 with a 5 speed. The goal is to one day get a 1000 hp p pump 24v in it. It currently has approximately 500 hp which is about all the fuel you can get out of a stock vp44. But ive already blown the trans once. Thinking ill have to do something like this? How much money was this approximately? How much power could a baby 10 take? Id probably do something else for the t case
Cost really depends on how much of a hurry you are in and how much you search for deals. Mine was close to $5000, I paid $300 for the trans but almost $3000 for drive shafts. For strength the nv4500 is rated at about 400ft lbs at I think 12,000GVW the RTO6610 is rated at 660ft lbs at 55,000 GVW. I don't have any experience using one with that kind of power but based on there weight rating and seeing the size of the components I think it will hold up.
You can get a good bit more than 500 out of a stock vp44. Most pumps in good shape will do 600, 650 is doable on a strong pump and there are a handful of people who have just barely broke 700. There's videos of guys with modded vp44s hitting near 1000 on just fuel and 1100+ with nitrous. 500 isn't even difficult to get out of a vp44 nowadays
@@wyattlewis8671 corrected? Possibly on a perfect dyno. Most people 550 is tops. Personally haven't seen anything more out of a stock pump. Neither have I seen dyno sheets to back that. Not saying a few aren't, but most make no more that 550 wheel horsepower uncorrected
Unfortunately I did the 10 speed before I had a TH-cam channel and didn't take any video. Installing the 10 speed was the same as the 6 speed other than the air system and i did a 2in body lift instead of cutting out the transmission tunnel. If your 10 speed has an SAE 2 bellhousing you can use all the parts listed in the description.
Hey. I have a 95 and its a stupid auto box. Have some ideas for the truck as I wa t it to be my farm truck in the next 5 years. Would love an Eaton fuller 10 speed but cannot find much info or ideas on keeping it 4x4. Divorced t-case I hear but how and where and a bunch of questions? Love to hear everyone's opinions. IC
The ideal 10 speed are know as the baby 10s they weigh about 400lbs... the RTO610 and RTO6610. For transfer cases many older pickups came factory with a divorced transfer case the one in the video is an NP205 from a ford.
@@jagersgarage490 the wheels are now in motion. Thank you. I'll find something used and slowly get the parts together. Truth be told, I'm actually bouncing around the idea of a 5 inch lift and chopping the cab and frame and stretching it into a full 4 door. Need to research how much that will affect my towing capacity. No point having a heavy hauler that can't haul! IC
@@iancameron5724 Your welcome. I know what you mean about the heavy hauler. My current plan is to find an older F600 or Kodiak put a 4 door cab cummins and 18 speed.
Not at this point the owner wanted to do some rust repairs before finishing the interior and getting bigger tires he is currently in the lower 48 so I don't know if a follow up will happen.
The big thing once you get into commercial clutches is shaft diameter and if it's a push or pull clutch there are many different ones for each set up available just need to figure out what you need at research to find the clutch you want
Cost really depends on how much of a hurry you are in and how much you search for deals. Mine was close to $5000, I paid $300 for the trans but almost $3000 for drive shafts. For this one the owner paid $1700 for the trans but I got the drive shafts from tom woods instead of locally so the were $1000 instead of $3000
For mine I went to a heavy truck shop and bought one that fit my needs. For this build the owner supplied the clutch with no box so I have no info about it. I ordered the front and rear drive shafts from Tom woods in California 4xshaft.com for the shaft between the transmission and transfer case and all the flanges/yokes were from www.northerndrivetrain.com
Do you happen to have or know of the part numbers for the intermediate rear and front drive shaft, I have the exact same setup except for mine is a 99 instead. But actually has 02 axles even has the same tcase. Mainly the rear and intermediate shaft are what's important because the front I'm not worried about I rarely ever use 4x4
From northern drivetrain Spicer 3-4-10951-11 Northern Drivetrain 001051 Northern Drivetrain 00176 From drive-lines.com 4-2-669 1550 flange standard * 2.00 F-C 4-82-191 1550 2.5-16 X 4.562 270.04 27 6-3-2631KX SLIP YOKE ASSY You will also need a 1710 and 1550 U-Joint. Make sure the yoke on your transmission is a 1710 if it is not the 6-3-2631KX will not work for you. As for the front and rear driveshafts I don't have a part # I just called Tom woods driveshaft. Told them my u-joint sizes flange dimensions and length.
Hi is possible to send me more information about flywheel like part # and clutch set up too any help well be appreciated trying to do the same exact swap thanks
Oshane Henry for the clutch you will need to get the transmission input shaft size and splin thengo to a heavy truck shop and talk to them to figure out what you can get for the power you are making and if you want it to be a push or a pull type.
@@jagersgarage490 Leave the music out of the videos. Copyright problem solved and viewers will not complain about the music. To me the music is lousy and distracting from the video content. Great video otherwise.
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i have a 75 f250 4x4 with a Perkins 6 liter 6 cyc and a fuller 10 speed. i love that trans there is only a 400 rpm drop between gears so the engine is never out of its power band. im running a 14 inch twin disc clutch out of a 60 series chevy. im building a pickup for a friend with the same combo but its getting a 16 inch twin disc. hes towing a 40 foot fifth wheel travel trailer.
Sounds like a sweet combo
Post a video of it!
Super nice work my friend! Your DriveTrain work is awesome!👍
Thank you
man, that's one hell of a good job on that swap.... great video 👍
Thanks 👍
Love it. Been wanting to do this swap for a long time.
Nice work man! The mounts for the divorced t case look like they could be beefier and also go frame rail to frame rail to resist rotational torque on the bottom as well as the top. But man nice work!
Thank you It goes frame rail to frame rail across the top especially a C channel arched across made out of 3/16 plate.
@@jagersgarage490 gotcha. I had a Suzuki samurai rigged up for off-roading on Toyota axles and 36's. They have divorced tcase. I ended up getting a laser cut ring that went around the entire case and grabbed every mounting bolt that held the front and back case halves together. If you didn't do that they always seemed to crack. Granted a lighter case, but I always just assumed there was a lot of torque on them especially in low range.
Its mounted basically the same as the truck it come out of. If I were off roading I'd definitely add more support but it's just a tow rig. I don't ever use low range first gear is almost 9:1
I did this on my 01 DRW , didn't have to worry about a transfer case, sure wish i could weld as good as you did in the inside of the cab. Also like the Trans mount you made out of the OEM, I used the trans mounting holes in the frame and fabricated perches for rubber mounts on both sides, then fabricated two L shaped mounts that bolt to the side of my FSO8406 and rest on the mounts.
Thank you for your kind words. The way you did yours sound like the way its usually done in med and heavy duty trucks.
Do u happen to have pics. I'm doin a fs5205a in my 94 dually an wanted to see how it would fit. G56 an an eaton 5 speed are qbout the same height so I'm hoping I don't have to cut the cab
Great job!!! Do you want to do another one? I’m tired of fixing my 48 RE time to do this conversion.
I dont have the exact figure handy but its around $3500 just in labor.... fabrication takes time.
I'm doing this swap now with a fs5406 I converted to an overdrive trans. You saved me a ton of time on the trans cross member with those measurements you gave. How did you do the clutch release did you cut the factory lever on the trans and drill a pocket in it for the slave cylinder rod to rest in . Great video bud
For the clutch release I cut the lever on the trans and drilled a pocket
@@jagersgarage490 do you remember how much you cut off the end so it has enough throw but not to much
How much was cut off depends on the arm you have. From the center of the shaft to the end when cut was about 3in with the 1/4 in deep hole for the rod at about 2.5in
@@jagersgarage490 thanks man I just finished my trans mount I'm abt to start on the clutch release thanks again for the info
Very nice work I going to install a 6 speed in my 95 Dodge 4x4 . Would like to see the 10 speed truck you built . Thanks
Thank you. If you check my channel I have a walk around of the 10 speed.
Jagers Garage I have an 08 with the auto 6 speed. She is on her way out. Can I do this conversion in mine? I realize the bell housing will bolt up. What I'm wondering is about the transfer case. Will I need to do the divorced transfer like this? I already have a tuner. So trouble codes can be cleared.
Yes you will need a divorced transfer case unless you want to pay or have access to a machine shop to make a married mount and coupler. There is a guy on the cummins forum that did it and shared lots of info.
@@jagersgarage490 I actually have a machine shop in my boat shop lol. Prob be way easier to just do a divorced setup. Still not sure if I will even do it.
I would say if you have the means do it married then you don't have to build another crossmember or worry about a mid shaft or setting the angles. I would have but machine shops here are very expensive.
Ok very cool thanks ill have to show you some pic of mine when it done I've got an flywheel housing and bell housing along with transfer case and transmission I just have to get a the e fly wheel and clutch and starter I'm ordering them this weekend hopefully thank you again for all your help
Glad I could help. I am on Facebook as jagers garage (personal) or team fishballs (projects page).
I am getting ready to do this swap on a 93 1st gen! Great video!
Thank you
Did you ever do the swap? I’m contemplating doing the same thing on my 93 d350
@@jarrett754 I did the Eaton fuller 6 speed OD swap it was very straight forward. I did a detached 205 transfer case, 2in body lift and built a crossmember. Had to build a bracket for the slave cylinder to reverse the direction of force. Other than that it was plug and play.. also mine was a D350 ex cab dully, I did the 4x4 swap. I used a Dana 70 rear end and Dana 60 kingpin front end.
@@michaelcowan7456 do you think it was be just as easy doing it without the 4wd swap? I really like the fact that my truck has stayed mostly original but the getrag is getting harder to find parts for as time goes on. And the previous owner had their way with it (find em grind em lug the crap out of it style of driving) so I would really like to take on a more robust solution. The problem is that truck is currently my daily driver so I’m hoping for a way I can do the entire swap in the span of 3-4 days
@@jarrett754 is there a way to PM you?
Loved the video any chance you can do a walk around of your truck with the 10 speed how you did the on board air for hi low etc?
I should have time this weekend to do that
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Cool beans,im puting the same trans on in a 68 c10 im making 4 wheel drive with a 6.5 detroit
Nice
Is that flywheel housing that you have in the description the exact housing you need or are there variations you can use? If so do you have the other part numbers?
There are others you can use. The one listed has the starter on the drivers side most all the others the starter is on the passenger side. Keeping it on the driver's means not having to change the wiring. I don't have any other part #s now I did the swap almost 10 years ago and don't know what happened to all my research info
I would love to talk you about this would love to do this to my 2004 Cummins.
What would you like to know?
@jagersgarage490 what you think a cost of conversion on my 04 would be doing a 8spd manual? And reflashing my ECM from automatic to manual I could do that with a smarty turner I suppose
Cost really depends if you are doing it yourself or paying someone to do it and how you get the parts. It's been awhile but if I recall I had $3,000-$5,000 into just the parts including drive lines and flanges to do it. But I took my time and found deals like $300 for a flywheel housing vs $2000 at the dealer and I paid $350 for my 10 speed a new one was about $4000 at the time. As for a tune or smarty that could be done I'm not sure on the 04 if necessary. On my 97 when I went auto to manual there was no need for a tune but it's a 12 valve. I'd imagine an 04 would need something
Where's the driving video? I'm eagerly waiting for it!
I'm still waiting on the owner to finish the interior.
Top notch! Any chance you have part numbers for the 1710 slip yoke and 1550 yoke?
I cant remember or find the recipe for what I used it was several years ago. But this is the website I used. I got the ones that were a little longer because they were quite a bit cheaper this is the 1710 page they also have a 1550 page.
Love the video and information on it. Thank you Very much. This cleared up a few things for me as I am researching this some. Curious if you know if this would work on a common rail?
I have an 06 with the g56 and 177, miles. I am wanting to do a 13spd on it. My biggest concern is the SAE#2 bell housing if it’ll bolt to the back on the common rail. I have not found anything online about common rails being swapped to 10spds.
Thank you and love the videos.
Keep them coming!
It can be done on a common rail should be the same flywheel housing that I used as I'm pretty sure the blocks are the same. If the block are different you will just have to find an SAE2 flywheel housing for the common rail.
Did you do the swap? I have a 2004 ram 3500 5.9 with the g56.
@@godspeedparadeteam I have not yet. I’m waiting since I have other things that require the funds at the moment and my transmission is still working fine.
But I will definitely be doing it in the future. I will also do videos on it when I do the build. Since there are not a lot out there and none on a newer coming rail truck. I will also be doing mine In 4wheel drive version
They don't make a common rail sae 2 clutch housing. One bolt hole is different an the common rail have a cam seal inset into the factory adapter plate. So a sae 2 housing will work just one hole will not line up. Then have a cam seal groove machined in it an bolt it up an go on about your day
The big problem is finding the housing it's hard to get info. I'm am very confident the common rail housing exists as they used common rails in freightliner fl60s .
I love this swap but I think I would have used a kit to divorce your stock T case. The np271/3d is actually a stronger case than those old np205s
I looked into that at the time I could not find a kit to divorce an NP241. I did find one for I believe it was the NP271 but I don't have a 271 and had no luck sourcing one locally.
Ok when I’m searching for the bell housing I just type in sea 2 bellhousing and looking for a medium duty 10 speed Eaton fuller transmission I’m wanting to do the same thing but I want to get as much information as I possibly can to do this
For the bellhousing the best bet is to get the eaton overhaul or parts breakdown manual for the 6610 or 610 it will have bellhousing part #s in it. You can get/read the manuals on line.
Greetings i'm folow You from México and got cuestión for You what serial number it's in the 4*4 Transfer case
With my 10speed I have a Dana 21 the 6 speed I did is an NP205 and a friend of mine who is doing a 15 speed is using an NP205. If cost was not a consideration I would use an Atlas II
Great videos I am looking to do my own on my 96. is there any chance you can get me the part number for the fly wheel housing and starter you used in these conversions?
They are in the description.
Hey - i sure like your conversion vids but why the background racket (music) WHILE you talk ?
The reason there is music when I talk is because the editing software I was using at the time would not allow me to split or mute the music.
@@jagersgarage490can’t please everyone. I enjoyed the heck out of your video, fantastic job!
Why didn't you video the first drive?
Didn't think at the time it would be interesting to people as it's just like driving a normal 6 speed.
What is the difference ratio, I installed that same gearbox and the gears are very short, in 6th gear it reaches 60 km at almost 1500 rpm, i have ram 2500 2007
I'm pretty sure it was 3.54
Where did you get that adapter from a 1710 to 1480?
Digging through driveline parts catalogs. Found a 1710 slip yoke that a 1480 stub shaft would fit in. Then a 1480 flange yoke that would bolt to a 1410 drive flange on the tranfer case. They were all off the shelf parts just had to put them together.
Can I hire you to do this swap on a 1999 Freightliner MT-45? Has the AT545 SAE #3 behind a 6BT
I suppose it's possible but I'm I'm alaska so unless the truck is in alaska I don't see it happening
@@jagersgarage490 Haha I don't think I want to drive the AT545 that far. But thank you for the video, I'm looking for a donor right now.
FSO6406 VS NV5600... Do you still PREFER the Eaton? I am asking your thoughts...
It was in a buddy's truck he still prefers the 6406. They shift about the same but the 6406 hasn't needed replaced if he had the 5600 he would have had to replace it again by now
currently doing this swap. Got a 98 12v and a 6306. Is the slave cylinder you used the oem for the truck? i thought these clutches had a cable pulling on the arm not hydraulic
I used the OEM slave cylinder just built a bracket and modified the arm
@@jagersgarage490 awsome, thank you for the reply!
@jagersgarage490 any idea on the part number for the pilot bearing that goes in the flywheel? Is it the same as the oem dodge one?
I used this one Timken Single Row Ball Bearing - 305DD
@@jagersgarage490 again you're awsome, appreciate it
I have full p pump 8.3L with 6 speed. Will all the trans parts bolt to a 5.9L?
Depends I am assuming the 8.3 is and SAE #2 if it is then if you have an SAE #2 flywheel housing and flywheel for the 5.9 then yes. The 8.3 flywheel housing will not fit the 5.9.
@@jagersgarage490 That was my main question. I'll look for a #"matching" flywheel housing for my 5.9L. Thanks!
Does the engine and transmission have to be at one degree incline? I didnt understand very well why you used the angle meter
Rear sump engines are usually angled back to help the oil drain to the sump in the oil pan. I took a measurement stock before I removed anything then set it at the same angle when I installed the new transmission mount.
How did you figure out the proper throw for the slave cylinder? Did you have to mess around with different length arms until you got the proper travel?
I use my calibrated eye lol and it worked the first time.
Would this work on a first gen 350 2wd automatic. Dually ? Also what gears in the diff would be ideal for daily driving
Yes it would work a 2wd would actually be alot easier. As for gears that really depends. If you get an overdrive trans it will be basically the same as stock. If the trans is not overdrive or you have larger tires. Go online and you can find a calculator where you put in tire size trans, axle gears and speed. Then it will give you an rpm and you can decide from there. The most fuel efficient rpm for a stock 12 valve is about 1700
I have a 99 with a 5 speed. The goal is to one day get a 1000 hp p pump 24v in it. It currently has approximately 500 hp which is about all the fuel you can get out of a stock vp44. But ive already blown the trans once. Thinking ill have to do something like this? How much money was this approximately? How much power could a baby 10 take? Id probably do something else for the t case
Cost really depends on how much of a hurry you are in and how much you search for deals. Mine was close to $5000, I paid $300 for the trans but almost $3000 for drive shafts.
For strength the nv4500 is rated at about 400ft lbs at I think 12,000GVW the RTO6610 is rated at 660ft lbs at 55,000 GVW. I don't have any experience using one with that kind of power but based on there weight rating and seeing the size of the components I think it will hold up.
@@jagersgarage490 thanks! Told me what i needed to know
You can get a good bit more than 500 out of a stock vp44. Most pumps in good shape will do 600, 650 is doable on a strong pump and there are a handful of people who have just barely broke 700. There's videos of guys with modded vp44s hitting near 1000 on just fuel and 1100+ with nitrous. 500 isn't even difficult to get out of a vp44 nowadays
@@wyattlewis8671 corrected? Possibly on a perfect dyno. Most people 550 is tops. Personally haven't seen anything more out of a stock pump. Neither have I seen dyno sheets to back that. Not saying a few aren't, but most make no more that 550 wheel horsepower uncorrected
Where did you source your sae 2 bell housings for the Cummins? Just doighin around or is there someone who stocks them?
I have bought 2 of them on e-bay you can find them other places but e-bay seems to be the cheapest. A new one from a semi dealer was about $1200.
Con doble disco queda con más agarre y no es un peso demasiado ya que cuando viene en camiones ford viene así y acelerar normal
Where can I see your ten speed conversion I’m doing one in my 99 24 valve
Unfortunately I did the 10 speed before I had a TH-cam channel and didn't take any video. Installing the 10 speed was the same as the 6 speed other than the air system and i did a 2in body lift instead of cutting out the transmission tunnel. If your 10 speed has an SAE 2 bellhousing you can use all the parts listed in the description.
What is the part number for the fly wheel housing I’m only finding sae 3 on Cummings dinner engines
Flywheel housing 3921296
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Hey. I have a 95 and its a stupid auto box. Have some ideas for the truck as I wa t it to be my farm truck in the next 5 years. Would love an Eaton fuller 10 speed but cannot find much info or ideas on keeping it 4x4. Divorced t-case I hear but how and where and a bunch of questions? Love to hear everyone's opinions. IC
The ideal 10 speed are know as the baby 10s they weigh about 400lbs... the RTO610 and RTO6610. For transfer cases many older pickups came factory with a divorced transfer case the one in the video is an NP205 from a ford.
@@jagersgarage490 the wheels are now in motion. Thank you. I'll find something used and slowly get the parts together.
Truth be told, I'm actually bouncing around the idea of a 5 inch lift and chopping the cab and frame and stretching it into a full 4 door.
Need to research how much that will affect my towing capacity. No point having a heavy hauler that can't haul! IC
@@iancameron5724 Your welcome. I know what you mean about the heavy hauler. My current plan is to find an older F600 or Kodiak put a 4 door cab cummins and 18 speed.
@@jagersgarage490 f@#k yeah!!!!!!!!
No follow up?!?
Not at this point the owner wanted to do some rust repairs before finishing the interior and getting bigger tires he is currently in the lower 48 so I don't know if a follow up will happen.
What about clutch master and slave cylinders, which ones you used?
Factory dodge just made a mount for slave
@@jagersgarage490 good to know, thanks
@@jagersgarage490 which clutch to use with this setup, any '10 spline 14 inch' kit?
The big thing once you get into commercial clutches is shaft diameter and if it's a push or pull clutch there are many different ones for each set up available just need to figure out what you need at research to find the clutch you want
How much do a conversation cost
Cost really depends on how much of a hurry you are in and how much you search for deals. Mine was close to $5000, I paid $300 for the trans but almost $3000 for drive shafts. For this one the owner paid $1700 for the trans but I got the drive shafts from tom woods instead of locally so the were $1000 instead of $3000
@@jagersgarage490 thanks for the response
Did you ever make a test drive video
Not yet once the ower gets the interior in I plan to.
What is the máximum speed? Cuz is not a overdrive transmission
60mph is the max I'm comfortable cruising at because of the rpm. but the owner does 65mph it has 3.54 gears and 37in tires and he plans on 40s or 42s.
This has been a dream of mine for a long time where are you located and how can I get in touch with you
I'm in Alaska you can contact me on Facebook at jagers garage or team fishballs.
can you use the stock dodge transfer case?
Its possible but you have to convert the stock transfer case to be divorced or convert the transmission to accept a married transfer case
I was cussing for you on putting the fly wheel in! Jesus Christ!
Yeah it's a pain not much room to work.
What did you Use for a clutch and the name of you drive shaft supplier
For mine I went to a heavy truck shop and bought one that fit my needs. For this build the owner supplied the clutch with no box so I have no info about it. I ordered the front and rear drive shafts from Tom woods in California 4xshaft.com for the shaft between the transmission and transfer case and all the flanges/yokes were from www.northerndrivetrain.com
How much did it cost the customer in parts to do this swap?
Just parts including the transmission it was about $8,000
Do you happen to have or know of the part numbers for the intermediate rear and front drive shaft, I have the exact same setup except for mine is a 99 instead. But actually has 02 axles even has the same tcase. Mainly the rear and intermediate shaft are what's important because the front I'm not worried about I rarely ever use 4x4
From northern drivetrain
Spicer 3-4-10951-11
Northern Drivetrain 001051
Northern Drivetrain 00176
From drive-lines.com
4-2-669 1550 flange standard * 2.00 F-C
4-82-191 1550 2.5-16 X 4.562 270.04 27
6-3-2631KX SLIP YOKE ASSY
You will also need a 1710 and 1550 U-Joint. Make sure the yoke on your transmission is a 1710 if it is not the 6-3-2631KX will not work for you.
As for the front and rear driveshafts I don't have a part # I just called Tom woods driveshaft. Told them my u-joint sizes flange dimensions and length.
@@jagersgarage490 thank you so much
Hi is possible to send me more information about flywheel like part # and clutch set up too any help well be appreciated trying to do the same exact swap thanks
Oshane Henry I ment to put it in the video but forgot.
IATCO 3921263-IAT B Series Cummins Flywheel (5.9-L) Replaces 3921263 & 4933458
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DB Electrical SNK0021 Starter
Unit Type: Starter
Voltage: 12
Rotation: CW
Teeth: 10
Starter Type: OSGR
Replaces OEM Numbers:
AC DELCO: 323-504
ARROWHEAD: SNK0021
ARROWHEAD (OEM): IMI25002-017, NK0-23000-2238
CARGO: 112253
CUMMINS: 3675172RX, 3924410, 3935071
DELCO: 10461477, 10465151, 10465314, 10479615, 10479618, 10479625, 10479638, 10479641
FORD: F3HT-11001-DB, F3HT-11001-DC, F3HZ-11002-B, F4HT-11001-BA
J & N: 410-12121, 410-12757
J & N (OLD): 410-12121R
LESTER: 6585
MOTORCRAFT: SA-803
NIKKO: 0-23000-2238, 0-23000-2388, 0-61000-0190, 0-61000-0220
NSA: STR-7056
REMY LIGHT DUTY: 63145
UNIPOINT: STR-7056
WAI: 6585N www.amazon.com/dp/B0081SBZ8E/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_zZ4PEbH0530T4
Timken 305DD Pilot Bearing
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Flywheel housing
3921296
Oshane Henry for the clutch you will need to get the transmission input shaft size and splin thengo to a heavy truck shop and talk to them to figure out what you can get for the power you are making and if you want it to be a push or a pull type.
@@jagersgarage490 THanks for all your help you really did a good job on that truck
Oshane Henry Thank you I'm glad to help.
Where are you located? I would like you to do one for me
I am in Alaska
Good video. Lousy music...
Glad you like the video... unfortunately it's hard to find good music without a copyright.
@@jagersgarage490 Leave the music out of the videos. Copyright problem solved and viewers will not complain about the music. To me the music is lousy and distracting from the video content. Great video otherwise.
why the garbage "music" ?